Making the most out of your Perfect Parry! - Street Fighter 6
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- Опубликовано: 16 июл 2023
- Perfect Parries are one of the best "gotcha" moments you can achieve in Street Fighter 6. However most people don't make the most out of it! The Parry scales your damage, and most people still go for the big combo when that's really not what you should do. So... lets talk about what you SHOULD do!
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So basically, most people use Perfect Parry in the wrong way. Its nobodies fault really, you get the combo opportunity, you go for the combo. Thats fighting games 101. However due to the heavy scaling of Perfect Parries in SF6, going for the big combo... really isn't that big. So forget the big combo! Let me tell you about the things you should really be aiming for after you land that perfect parry!
Another option is you get so hype after landing a perfect parry and end up hitting 1 normal and nothing else
I learned to be fair that’s better than nothing. Scaling is a big mf 😭
Level 3 on reaction every time like a chad Rooflemonger subscriber would.
Yes, all those perfect parries I always get...definitely get them all the time
its easier against obvious moves, which is why I sorta use Honda as the base.
I'm on the opposite side of this argument. I thought I was special being able to perfect parry headbutt so often. now after this video I don't feel so special.
Another option is to go after their drive gauge! Jp for example has a combo using lvl 2 super art where he can do multiple drive impacts and really crush the opponents drive gauge . I'm sure others have similar options... Blanka comes to mind.
Jamie kind of can of his level 3, he gets the level 3 drive damage and can end his combo with a drive impact. Its enough so that blocking an EX reversal guarantees he can break your drive gauge with the punish counter combo.
I'm glad you covered this! Yes, the Perfect Parry scales damage horribly, but it allows for punishes that wouldn't have been possible otherwise. As such, I learned it's better to focus on getting a better knockdown rather than optimal damage. Even something as basic as Zangief's down-forward throw (or back throw if cornered) yields a greater long-term reward.
As a Manon player perfect parry means a drive meterless medal level. I take those
not going for Gorilla-mindset in that situation is really something only an experienced fighter would tell you. It also makes a lot of sense to shape the battlefield to your advantage
which means I need to learn new strings according the situation.
Glad you mentioned Zangief in this because going for the SPD after a perfect parry , I sometimes get a 720 level 3 that gets scaled to oblivion. This usually happens at the start of a critical round. 😮😢😂
I play Ryu and Kim. I typically go for a heavy button into DI to take 2 bars from my opponent. If I’m in the corner I go for positional advantage and a bar.
thanks for the idea, i always go for corner carry and completely forgot about thí
@@setyourheartabl4ze I started doing it because perfect parry literally scales at 50% lol. Most characters get a free drive rush after the DI knockdown anyways
I honestly find that, when in doubt, just do a normal throw. Throws get a larger punish counter bonus compared to everything else, putting their post-parry damage on par with a lot of punishes, and the guaranteed hard knockdown means pretty much anyone can get a setup afterward. With so many options on the table it's going to be hard to know what the optimal punish is in any scenario, and I'd rather get a relatively "low" reward scenario than freeze up and give up a free punish.
Definitely yes, this is what I do too. And people complain about perfect parry scaling, which i think they just dont understand the point of it. You are getting a heck load of reward on the perfect parry, being able to negate all damage taken, drive taken, and given the turn immediately to set up whatever you want. And a lot of the times perfect parry is not that hard to do in specific set ups because of fixed timing. Things like reacting to Honda headbutt, or just very common meaty wake ups? Learn the perfect parry timing and your opponent start to doubt their advantage the next time. Its crazy powerful, and i'd argue the scaling isn't harsh enough in that sense.
6:03 "Zangief is right on top of you"
Don't threaten me with a good time.
😂
everyone wants Zangief's perfect body grasping them, until their spines end up crushed like a tin can
As a fellow Honda player who mainly plays the burnout game, I heavily endorse perfect parry combos that uses drive gauge
Zangief's shimmy is the floatiest I've ever seen. Just gliding along the ground. 🤣
And as a Manon player, grab them for a buff
Ty for the tip! Honda is definitely one of my hardest matchups as he can start to snowball hard. Sacrificing combo damage for screen carry isn’t something I had considered so thanks for the insight! Subbed!
As a Honda player who gets perfect parried more than anyone else, trust me when I say I and all other Honda's are absolutely judging you and your combo after the perfect parry. if you go for the stock "big damage", we laugh and are in no way dissuaded from going for more headbutts. You gotta do something a bit more special to make a honda player think twice
These videos are so good! Thank you!
As a Jamie player I usually either throw them to the corner or do a very simple combo to get a drink
"Why do lot combo when few combo do trick?"
This was enlightening. Thanks 😁
Also punish into drive impact to drain some of opponent drive meter
my favorite moment vs a honda was that "eureka" after a perfect parry.
I used zangief df.throw and I throw looped him midscreen for a second. he did not like that. he was much more careful with his headbutts afterwards.
Edit: AH! It looks like you actually covered it exactly in the video lmao. oh well take the comment for the yt-algo.
That's a certified Chicago Punish
Best punishes for a Perfect Parry:
*1) Guaranteed Kill*
*2) Gain Frame Advantage, Set a Mixup, or Corner Carry (Can be be abbreviated to "Neutral Advantage".)*
*3) Opponent Burnout*
*4) Damage*
This is exactly what I've started to do as well, max damage meterless combo or corner combo instead of some big bar spender. The secret is out now lol.
Who knew that my scrub inability to do SPD would actually lead me to being optimal lol.
Damn It Roofle 😤 How dare you help out the Ken community?
Honestly i try to not even punish after the parry and wait the perfect amount of frames for a non scaled command grab if i can tell they will block after i parry them.
*BREAKING:* In the interest of absolute fairness, Noble Warrior Edmond Honda shows shameless Crypto Bro who abandoned his family over his wounded pride how to counter him.
I was just playing against e. Honda as Jamie and whenever I did perfect parry I would immediately go into stand heavy kick, punish counter and two drinks. Super demoralizing for the other player. It felt great
Great explanation of this unintuitive situation
I feel like I've overcorrected on this point because now I'm doing the same thing every time. Which is sweep into OD portal(JP). Because that means they are at your feet, waking up to your advantage, with 2 portals above their head. And if they guess wrong and get hit by anything, meaty or grab, they're eating a full (unscaled) combo.
Though the classic cHP>Swipe>ghost>spike is probably still an option I should use regularly. More guaranteed damage and leaving them full screen.
For zangief, maybe a better option would be polar express ? It would give him good pressure while you’re down while still doing a good CHUNK
For Jamie players , as far as I know, just do OD palm (or st. HK punish counter > OD palm). you sacrifice 3 drive bars, but it's 2 drink levels guaranteed because of the OD palm rolling knockdown.
an even better combo is to do heavy kick canceled into double drink, you get two drinks for free for no meter loss
@@paretmartin5922 right i keep forgetting that HK is cancellable, thanks!
I see I hit the parry, I do Manon's funny grab. Big damage AND medal. Unga bunga
Honestly in most situations, either DI or perfect parry or whatever, her grab winds up kinda being the best choice anyways unless you wanna add a super. Like off a DI, lvl 3 and up grab is better. Off a big DP punish, unless you using super nothing beats level 5 anyways lol.
@@rooflemonger A combo that ends in QCB+MK is better in a lot of cases due to corner carry and +Frames. But if you have 5 medals just take the 37% (meterless!) damage
Counter argument, zangief lvl3
Just use it raw. You're gonna do it anyway
Does that add a super concept include installs like Guile's sonic blades and Juri's Fungshei engine?
and remember kids, the corner isn't all that valuable if you can't anti air
I mean, with Gief I would chose the 360 in that specific case scenario against Honda, because Honda is the one approaching you, you as Gief don´t have to struggle getting in since Honda is already doing it for you and Honda doesn´t have any projectiles rather than *himself*
Yeah, you can go for the grab and get that oki, bait for a reversal and laugh about the stupid crazy punish counter damage you will do, but that depends if it works or not.
I play Manon so I just command grab to get medals. It really depends on the character you play. You’d think you’d do more damage with a perfect parry🤷🏽♂️
One thing I like to do with gief on perfect parry is an EX Siberian express. As long as it wont put me in a corner its basically a free half a super bar
I am brand new to SF coming from mk my instinct says go for broke when i can since the rounds end so wuickly this was a goos piecw of info since i was unaware of the awful scaling lol now i need to learn to PP lol
nice, cuz perf parry nerfs damage heavily but only damage, so basically focus on everything else, positioning, oki, drive gauge advantage, etc.
Yeah, the scaling is so bad that I am not even afraid when I get Perfect Parried. The best thing you should do, is using a combo that implement a mixup like a Low or Mid that doesn't combo, or command grab in a frame trap.
This feels like a Honda main backed and funded this video to gaslight everyone to do suboptimal combos
dammit, he's onto us.
doing a high damage combo is in fact, suboptimal, which is the point of the video.
Damn this guy definitely not that smart 😂😂
I always go for a grab, anytime I’m given guaranteed advantage.
I just go for heavy into DI to chunk their drive gauge
Okay guys I have a dumb issue. Every time I perfect parry I don’t seem to be able to punish. The opponent always blocks even if I’m spamming a heavy punch or something.
One time they even grabbed ME after I perfect parried them. Am I not reacting fast enough? Or did I parry something with fast frames or something? Why can’t I punish?
If the move you perfect parried has fast enough recovery, you don't always get to have big combos. This happens most often when you perfect parry jump-in attacks, for example. You just need to try out faster attacks.
@@Copperhell144 thanks I’ll have to practice in the lab!
My favorite thing about using Cammy, about 25% of the time I get perfect parried I actually hit my opponent. I guess they are loading up 😂
I need a guide on how to break through plat5, low diamond skill level, I dunno how to level up really, I get destroyed by rushdown Ken’s , Kim’s an juris, really precise manons n giefs will get me too, is there a trick to reading people and adapting to better players, what do I need to do to be diamond consistently
well the answer is right there, its consistency. Climbing the ranks means for the most part a positive win %, and you get that by being consistent. That means being able to handle rushdown and silliness. There is no magic quick answer for that. Playing more games, and becoming more comfortable in situations is what will win you those games. If rushdown ken ran all over you, a lot of the time its because you let them by hitting buttons when you shouldn't etc etc. Recognizing situations for what they are and acting appropriately is a big part of the battle. Watching your own replays can be a very good help with that, you will learn a lot more from watching a match where you lost than one where you win. Take a gander on why exactly you lost, which exchanges didn't go in your favour, thats the kinda stuff you need to improve on.
@@rooflemonger yeah i think i see an opening or a gap etc and try to escape or reversal etc, ive been watching some replays but i should watch way more losses then, ill see how it goes 👍
OR... you should go for a combo with a Drive Impact so you could steal 1 Bar of Drive gauge.
As a Honda main. I actually anticipate someone wanting to perfect parry me so that they can waste their meter on a combo that does so low damage.
I cant believe theres almost 10min of video going around multiple iterations of what to do after nailing a precisely timed PERFECT parry, then having to juggle around corner carrying, weighting damage, how much is worth to do what when, and all Honda gotta do os decide to go for another headbutt or a beefslam to outdamage all you did, knock you away or eat you drive gauge on block unless you perfect parry him AGAIN
I mean, the whole point of this video is that the positional advantage you can gain from perfect parry is much better than damage anyway? If you react correctly (e.g. throw Honda into a corner) you could get into situation where it's a lot harder for Honda to just spam headbutt at you in the near future.
yeah honda owns
So what’s the reason Perfect Parry scales so much? Seems a little odd like you’re being punished for doing something that requires some pretty strict timing.
If it didn't the game would basically just devolve into perfect parry/baiting parry. Like if you got a full damage combo against honda on every parried headbutt, he would be Z tier.
@@rooflemonger Hmmm I see that makes me feel like I’m greatly underestimating how actually achievable a Perfect Parry is in the game cause in my head it feels very difficult but at the same time that belief that it’s so difficult has kept me from ever actually going for it.
@@ThePlasticBowl The thing is, going for perfect parry has a low risk because most of the time you just get a normal parry (unless you are late) which is just a better block. This is not SF3 where parrying comes with the risks of not blocking. Because of that you can think of perfect parry's as "free" bonus attacks that kind of breaks the game's builtin assumptions of what is and isn't safe, and therefore the scaling feels perfectly fine to me. Even if you only land perfect parry's once in a while the advantage is still pretty huge.
@@BrotherCheng So then I think what I’m afraid of is eating the grab then cause lets say my opponent jumps in on me I can parry to make sure the jump In doesn’t hit me and then even hold it to beat whatever they might do on landing but if they stop early the grab is almost inevitable right? Doesn’t parry have some frames of recovery on it?
@@BrotherCheng SF6 Parry has a punishable whiff animation, SF3 does not.
Are you Food Wishes?
Hey Lord Roof, can you make a video on how to counter Blanka, Blanka ball is way harder to deal with than headbutt.
basically everything in the beat the honda headbutt video applies to blanka. Its airborne so loses to DP's cause they are air invuln frame 1, its easier to beat with buttons than headbutt is, or you can just do anything armoured/invincible to take it on(not DI though)
first you ask us to play honda more, and now we are asked learn "strategies" and "optimization" which is it?
always play honda more first everything else comes second
Bro relax I’m a Manon main, after any perfect parry or DI I just grab em and flip em
Honestly, the go to route for neutral Special Moves is Drive Impact,hand down. If you learn how to punish them, your opponent will have to switch strategy. Have a look...
ruclips.net/video/ogFxY8lOikQ/видео.html
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Up until you press the Drive Impact too late and make it so that Honda/Blanka/whomever counter-DI's you of course.
Imagine if they had the not stupid idea of massive scaling on the most hype defence moment
You get right in front of Honda and he just do the flying butt and crossover you and you get fucked. ''Oh! Just Perfect parry the butt too!'' Sorry, I'm not a perfect pro player like you.
Try to jump attack him before his buttslam comes down, especially with light buttons (though maybe even try out slower attacks as well).
I just do zengi 360 off parry because I'm bad at it anyways 🥲