POLICE STOPS CYCLIST GOING OVER 20MPH - LONDON'S NEW SPEED LIMIT
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- Опубликовано: 9 мар 2020
- A CYCLIST GETS STOPPED BY POLICE FOR GOING OVER 20MPH IN CENTRAL LONDON. THE NEW SPEED LIMIT WAS INTRODUCED ON 02 MARCH 2020 IN A EFFORT TO REDUCE TRAFFIC ACCIDENTS.
DO YOU AGREE WITH THE NEW LIMIT?
DO YOU THINK THE CYCLIST SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN STOPPED?
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I got up to 42mph on a 40mph road the other day on my bike, to be honest I would’ve paid a speeding ticket because thats a massive flex to say you were caught speeding on a bike
What vehicle reg would they put in when issuing a ticket? What license would become endorsable with points for speeding? You CAN'T get a speeding ticket on a bicycle in the UK, they ONLY apply to motor vehicles lol, even under TfL's Vision Zero scheme - only applicable to motor vehicles - the video is wrong.
@@the_mad_ratter they can still stop you and tell you to go slower, can’t they?
@@diedrino only if their riding was considered to be dangerous. Speed isn't a factor when it comes to bicycles except for certain private cycle routes (canal paths etc), roads and pathways, which might have their own limit in force, but would need a condition acceptance (an invitation to pay to settle outside of court), rather than a fixed penalty notice with penalty points on your license. On the flip side, you can be caught drunk in control of a bicycle and lose your car license!
@@the_mad_ratter there are a couple of things they can charge you with sort of like dangerous riding if speeding, and it is possible for local bylaws to impose speed limits on cyclists. For example, on Hampstead Heath in London there is an 8mph speed limit for cyclists, and in Richmond Park the speed limit of 20 miles per hour for vehicles also applies to cyclists. If you hit someone (or something) and are travelling too fast that will be used against you 🤪
@@the_mad_ratter I believed that for years, also a prom - but you can’t. There is no alcohol limit for cycles, but you can commit an offence if it is decided you were too drunk - you could be fined, but your driving license cannot be endorsed. Road Traffic Act 1988, section 30
How do cyclists know they're "speeding" when they have no speedometer?
There's no legal requirement for cyclists to have a speedometer.
A really good question.
I think the ones that go fast do have a speedo or track their rides on an app to challenge themselves to do better. Wouldn’t expect to see a speedo on a Boris bike though... LOL
“I didn’t know I was breaking the law” is not an excuse in court.
Garmin, wahoo etc...
@@tomburton8239 how does what you said make any sense when there is no law that says you have to install a speedometer on your bike? i can gurantee you every cyclist would win that case because of that...
@@ybsheep
No law to state you must have a working odometer/speedo in your vehicle if it was not supplied with one, but it still remains your responsibility to know what speed you are doing.
Actually speed limits only apply to motorised vehicles and not cyclists. Cyclists exceeding the speed limit are likely to be charged with careless or reckless cycling, but can't currently be charged for speeding.
There are a few speed limits that apply to cyclists in the UK mainly in various parks. Usually a lot lower speeds and higher fines than regular speed limits. I seem to recall reading about a little old being fined about £400 for exceeding a 10mph limit in a park.
South Wirral Cyclist I’m not totally up to date on the new 20mph speed laws, but I just read about the Cyclist bit on speeding and I think your right. I wonder if the cyclist could say that he was just over taking, and he did react on time as well as stoped quick enough when flagged by the police. I wonder what the out come was.......????
@@isa9engineer430 Try that on the judge.
@@isa9engineer430 If only they made a device that tells you your speed...
@@brianblanchard9617 there's no requirement to have one fitted on a pedal cycle though
Rule 124 of the Highway Code sets limits for various vehicles, which MUST be complied with. Bicycles are not included.
The Highway Code and the Road Traffic Act speeding limits apply only to motor vehicles and their drivers.
However, it is possible for local authorities to impose speed limits on cyclists although this is rarely done it may be the case in this area that the local authority has imposed the limit on all vehicles.
Speed limits on bikes in Royal Parks are enforceable, because the The Royal Parks and Other Open Spaces Regulations 1997 amended by the Royal Parks and Other Open Spaces (Amendment) Regulations 2004 outlined that speed limits in the parks applied to all vehicles.
TFL's website is vague on whether it applies to all vehicles or just motor vehicles though.
@@micrashed So you are one of those lycra-jerks that thinks you are exempt do you. Even the most stupid or arrogant cyclist must realise that if they are passing everything, including powered vehicles, they are probably going too fast. Then you cry when an Audi driver takes you out in revenge.
@@photoisca7386 _"Then you cry when an Audi driver takes you out in revenge."_
Dude! It's disturbing that you even thought it was appropriate to write that.
Bicycles are vehicles ; if caught speeding you can be charged with wanton and furious cycling
@@derekheeps1244 That's a criminal offence and it's unlikely to be used just for going faster than the speed limit.
As a cyclist getting a speeding ticket is a badge of honour. Only had warnings to date.
I framed my "wanton and furious pedalling" ticket :D apparently I was hitting 37 down Maid Marian way in Nottingham, on an old Kettler Alurad lol
What age are you 15? Hope you get your badge of honour soon.
It's also points on licence
@@thewoodsfamily2009 Really? Even though you don't need a licence?
@@EuroB0B1 cycling or other non-vehicular traffic offences can result in points on a license. But not necessarily - depends on the situation. Wanton/Furious doesn't always result in points, dangerous can.
Are you sure the cyclist was stopped for speeding? The speed limit on UK public roads only applies to motor vehicles, though cyclists can be charged with reckless cycling, but that is a subjective thing that the court may need more evidence for than a speed camera reading.
I would bet on him being stopped for jumping a red light, most likely witnessed by another officer spotting at a previous set of traffic lights.
Cyclists shouldn’t be on the road until they hold a valid licence to be on it have insurance like everyone else and in this case speedometers and some sort of number plate system
@@purtlemoirrey1161 cycling on the public highway (in the UK where this is filmed) has the same status as walking or riding a horse, i.e. it is a right of everyone to do so, whereas as you have to have a license and insurance to drive/ride a motor vehicle on the public highway plus the vehicle needs a regular safety check and must adhere to a plethora of construction and use regulations. The rights of cyclists, walkers, horse riders precede the existence of motor vehicles and have not been reduced since, nor should they be IMO, roads were not built for cars ;-)
@@purtlemoirrey1161 🤣
@@purtlemoirrey1161 Yeah and then while we're at it all pedestrians need number plates as well! Those pesky two-legged hooligans!
Everyone knows that the rules of the road don't apply to pushbikes. Also everyone knows that cyclists can quote the entire Highway Code word for word when it suits them.
This is how pathetic the UK really is now.
He probably reached for his drinks bottle and the Police classified it as a ‘picnic’
@@djb7302 Or thought it was a gun !
@@manofweed1 No that would be the USA and the person they thought is reaching for the gun is already dead killed by the Police.
@@manofweed1 , I wouldn't want to be hit by a cyclist doing that sort of speed, it would hurt. Probably kill a child, not to mention an old and frail person.
I agree. The police go after what's easy, not what matters. They'd sooner stop a speeding cyclists than a thief stealing bikes because it's easier. And soon enough they'll be able to collect revenue for speeding cyclist once they change the law.
Road Traffic Regulation Act 1984, sections 81, 86, 89 & schedule 6. In fact, these sections all fall within Part VI of the act, which is entirely about speed limits.
Section 81 is quite explicit that "It shall not be lawful for a person to drive a motor vehicle on a restricted road at a speed exceeding 30 miles per hour"
Section 89: "A person who drives a motor vehicle on a road at a speed exceeding a limit imposed by or under any enactment to which this section applies shall be guilty of an offence."
So "drives" and "Motor vehicle" excludes cycles and cyclists
I'm sure that was an oversight and needs to be rectified.
@@johnbower7452 but first they will need a law for cycles to have a speedometer. It is unlikely that such a law would be retrospective, so millions of bikes still wouldn't have one. Would children's bikes require one ?
I daily see cars break the speed limit and drive too close to bicycles.
Although speed limits apply in royal parks to cyclists.
@@julianshepherd2038 And almost kill em as they are sometimes that close that the bikes wheels are an inch away from the curb because we already had to move away and yet the handlebars are still almost touching the car sometimes.
It is now time to bring cyclist's in line with all other road users, 20mph should be for everyone not just motorised vehicles
Why? Does 20mph make things safer for everybody?
it is for everyone using the roads
Didn’t realise London had implemented so many 20 limits until I drove into it this weekend. I feel like the pedestrian impacts will be less deadly now, but there’s going to be a lot of incidents with cars collecting undertaking cyclists on their left. 25mph make more sense as it would be just over the average commuter cyclists top speed.
When your over taken by a none mechanically propelled machine you know its all gone wrong!
You must think that every time your in a traffic jam...... 🤦
@@mattsequoia5483 No only the sheeple thing that is why you replied!
@@ApnaChoud awww liking your own comment, how mature. Time to grow up and get a clue.
@@mattsequoia5483 Like my own comment fool? Ask the person whom did they obviously agree so 2 of us can't be wrong can we fool?
@@ApnaChoud I can see stringing a coherent sentence together is hard work for you, as well as using the correct words! Only one fool here, looking right back at you in the mirror!
Speed limits don't apply to cyclists
Bicycles are not included under the road traffic act. While you can't normally be charged for speeding on a bicycle, you could be charged for careless cycling instead. Furthermore, local bye-laws can impose limits on cyclists.20 Apr 2017
I got stopped at 37mph in a 30. I got a ticket for "wanton and furious cycling" but no speeding fine. I framed it :P
Even the legislation for Vision Zero states that it applies to motor vehicles in the area.
@@the_mad_ratter weare it as a badge of honour 😂
They should, though.
@@SirEdwardeight no
@@FattyOn2Wheels yes
I’m a lifelong cyclist. Speed limits may not apply to cyclists, but common sense ought to be expected. The first overtaking cyclist shown, demonstrated a complete lack of common sense, and due care or attention as he squeezed between the cyclist and the motorbiker. As did several others in the clip. If a car came that close at speed to a cyclist we would all be up in arms - and rightly so. We need road users to look out for each other.
Mostly agree, but the main difference between a bike getting close to a car and a car getting close to a bike is that the bike is aware and it's his choice. Since cyclists are vulnerable road users, cars need to respect them and give them space.
@@alex2143 I agree, especially with your last point re the relative vulnerability of car drivers and cyclists. I also think experienced, faster moving cyclists should make allowances for less experienced, slower ones. The overtaking cyclists in these examples did not do so to an acceptable degree IMHO.
@@normancoutts Ideally, the roads should be so safe that children, moms with kids, people with disabilities and old folks feel comfortable riding a bike, but agree 100%.
The problem right now is that that isn't the case. So the only people who even feel comfortable riding a bike are fit 25-35 year old males who do it as a sport. It's not something everyone is doing, as it is in the Netherlands.
@Advanced Driving yes. If I have to explain to you why there's a difference between a two ton piece of steel hitting you at high speed and a human hitting you at only slightly more than your own speed, then I have to congratulate you for making my expectations of mankind even lower than they already were.
@Advanced Driving i don't really care what you are comparing. I'm comparing what is actually dangerous and what actually kills people. Which is cars.
that literally makes no sense at all how do you know your going over the speed limit
Put a speedo on the bicycle been around since the 60s
Mobile phones are common. There are free apps that use GPS to tell you your speed etc.
@@mikewade777 they are not accurate at all though.
@@OnTheRailwayOfficial yes they are, download a bunch and use the one that works best in your area.
Circumference of your tire times RPM divided by time.
As a kid, I've tried for years to get a ticket in a 30mph zone :-D
But with my bike at that time I'd have needed to put in more rpm into the pedals than a dentist's drill
The cyclist was not been stopped for speeding, they were either riding too fast for the conditions, not giving way to pedestrians or riding furiously or all three.
British cyclists share no legal obligation to adhere to the same speed limits as motorists. Speed limits listed in the Road Traffic Regulation Act 1984 and also Rule 124 of the Highway Code relate to motor vehicles and not to bicycles. Rule 123 of the Highway Code includes a table that sets out the speed limits for various types of vehicle on various categories of road. The table does not include bicycles.
In Royal Parks the police have given up arguing about whether a bike is a vehicle, and just book cyclists under Park Reg 3(10)c "use any pedal cycle ....in any manner that endangers or is likely to endanger any person"
Nice to see that the cyclists weren’t close passing the motor cycle.
CYCLIST DON'T GET SPEEDING TICKETS ! Highway code only states motorised vehicles. But can get tickets for reckless and dangerous riding!
It’s time that anyone over the age of 17 that uses a machine : bike; car; plane; peddle etc) must be licensed; insurance; number plate; road tax ,
So the man or woman is liable for their actions or inactions of wrongdoing to another man or woman property..
Legs came first walking
Why do people cycle in the UK like they are in a race? At that speed at 40mph you are a liability to yourself and anybody else.
In the UK, there's no legal speed limit for bicycles, and 20 mph limits are getting more common all over the country
With that combination of factors, bicycles are mostly faster than motorbikes in towns and cities, even on a clear road with no traffic
I think authorities are trying to encourage people to cycle instead of owning a motor vehicle
The cyclists were probably doing about 25 mph in this video, a pretty normal speed for modern lightweight bicycles these days
The policeman might have stopped him, but speed limits do not apply to cyclists, pedestrians or horseriders. So the copper is wasting his, and the cyclists time.
They do that, they'll just waste your time over and over until you do what they want, regardless of what the law says. He's getting paid either way, it's not a waste of his time, just a waste of our money. They did the same to my brother for taking his chef's knives home from work with him every night, stop-and-search and keep him stood waiting while they checked up on his story, to waste an hour of his time every other night.
Fuzz "elo elo elo, do you know how fast you were going?". cyclist "NO". fuzz "on ya way then".
Simple. Follow the speed limits in whatever you are on.
Think bikes need an MOT and number plates now so they can be fined when speeding and start contributing to their road use.
Are speedometers compulsory for bicycles?
'I don't have a speedometer on my bike' is not an excuse because you can get one if you want, and if you're cycling dangerously fast then you should be prosecuted.
The only people really in danger from speeding cyclists are pedestrians, and you can kill a pedestrian if you hit them at 30mph (a lady died in Bristol last year after being hit by a cyclist who probably wasn't even doing 30).
Just the same as any other member of the public, you have a duty of care to ensure that your actions do not cause harm or injury to other members of the public. Cyclists are not exempt from this or other legal obligations. There are far too many cyclists who have NO driving experience and don't fully understand the rules of the road, rights of way, road signs etc etc. And there are also far too many cyclists who assume that they are the centre of the universe and everyone else owes THEM a duty of care, which they don't owe to ANYONE else.
Personally I think that you should require public liability insurance if you ride a bicycle, and it would be proactive to also attach a speedometer and, while you're at it, why not fix some small wing-mirrors as well.
Maybe that way you'd all be much less of a danger to yourselves and anyone else unfortunate enough to cross your impatient and self-entitled path.
Actually cyclists do not have to follow the speed signs. It’s written that they are excepted in law. Instead, you have to ride at a reasonable speed and have 2 independent brakes
@@akbarramzan4159 At no point in any of that did I say that cyclists are bound by law to observe speed limits.
Cyclists can still be prosecuted for going too fast regardless of speed limits.
True, you can kill someone at that seed, so why can't people respect bycycle lanes? I don't have fast bike, it can get around 20km/h,and i need 1m to stop. The problem is that pedastrians are jumping out on bicycle lane, like crickets. Once a guy literally jumped backwards in front of my wheel.
The Highway Code rule 124 applies here. These are the applicable Road Traffic Act laws referred to in HC rule 124.
Law RTRA sects 81, 86, 89 & sched 6 as amended by MV(VSL)(E&W)
They quite clearly state that the laws on speeding refer to motorised vehicles only. There may be specific areas such as parks when speed limits are applicable to cyclists which are indicated by signage.
There is an age-old law on the statute if I remember correctly, which is "pedalling furiously", which I believe has been used in the past.
But in a 20 zone in high gear that would unlikely be the case!
In general, British cyclists share no legal obligation to adhere to the same speed limits as motorists. Motor vehicle speed limits were introduced in 1903 and set at 20mph.
After this limit was routinely breached, the speed limit in towns was changed to 30mph in 1934. Since then there have been no amendments enacted to make cyclists also adhere to the same regulations.
Speed limits listed in the Road Traffic Regulation Act 1984 and also Rule 124 of the Highway Code relate to motor vehicles and not to bicycles.
“It shall not be lawful for a person to drive a motor vehicle on a restricted road at a speed exceeding 30 miles per hour.
“A person who drives a motor vehicle on a road at a speed exceeding a limit imposed by or under any enactment to which this section applies shall be guilty of an offence.”
Rule 123 of the Highway Code includes a table that sets out the speed limits for various types of vehicle on various categories of road. The table does not include bicycles.
As such, cyclists who breach the speed limit may not be prosecuted for a speeding offence but they can, however, be prosecuted for “cycling furiously” or “wanton and furious cycling.”
Don't forget RTA Sec29: If a person rides a cycle on a road without due care and attention, or without reasonable consideration for other persons using the road, he is guilty of an offence.
i beg to differ rule 69 of the highway code applies here
Of course they should be stopped for speeding. They're using the road and are subject the laws thereof. If you don't want to get fined get a speedo, it ain't hard to work out.
Wish I was that fit
If the road is smooth and if it's flatland, it's easy.
If the road is flat and smooth it's easy with such a road race bike to go that speed. With a 25cc scooter engine they would probably go 50mph😅
It's probably an e-bike :P
@@kaedeschulz5422 250w ebike is technically restricted to 15.5mph in the UK, but very few actually are. 39cc kit on my bike only hit 42. 50cc kit on my bike hit 48, 80cc kit on my bike hit 46. go figure lol
@@the_mad_ratter I mean proper racing road bikes not these i don't want to train but still ride far bikes.
To be honest, I wouldnt even stop for police on a bicycle unless they weren't walking 🤔 i do stop for red lights , but my days of seeing 40+ on a bike are over ( just over 40mph was my highest speed on the london to Brighton) . 😎
He wasn't actually stopped for going over 20 mph it was just for overtaking another cyclist dangerously close
When have cyclists ever obeyed traffic laws?
when have 4 wheelers?
There's a speed camera not terribly far away from where I live which has been made a strava segment called "smile for the camera". Its running off the bottom of a steep descent and in a 30 zone, the KOM is just shy of 50 IIRC :D
Cycle have no excuse bikes do not have speedometers , you can purchase them at your local bike shop or on line , I also think cycle should have some kind of cover as many of them shoot the lights or ride across walkway out on to the main road .
It's crazy to think bikers still have to wear all that armoured riding gear, while the only protection the cyclists had was shorts and licra, yet they're all faster than the motorbike
Get number plates on all those push bikes then you can fine them for speeding What happens when they crash or knock Someone down The motorists get done for it so why shouldn't the cyclists
Why do speed limits not apply to cyclists?
Motor vehicle speed limits were introduced in 1903 and set at 20mph. After this limit was routinely breached, the speed limit in towns was changed to 30mph in 1934. Since then there have been no amendments enacted to make cyclists also adhere to the same regulations.
Sorry, how does the police officer know he is speeding, how does the cyclist know if he is speeding and, how does the person posting this know the police are pulling cyclists for speeding. All bollocks.
How is this enforceable? Cyclists don't have to have a speedometer how are they supposed to know their speed.
Ignorance has never been a legal defence.
It's Upto a cyclist to follow the rules and if that means buying a speedometer then that's what must be done.
Yes speeding isn't a cycling offence but careless cycling is a catch all
Speed limits are not enforceable for bicycles.
UK laws specify motor vehicles and cycles rarely have speedos.
rule 69 of the highway code, it really is that simple
The offence that cyclists would be committing is 'wanton and furious driving', section 35 of the Offences Against the Persons Act which dates from 1861. That section applies to persons in control of any non-motorized vehicle or conveyance. Generally only used where injury is caused to a person. It does not, for example, cause damage to a car if you ride in to one. The copper can give the cyclist a ticking off for not following guidance in the Highway Code (various sections), but none of those particular sections are backed up by law with reference to cyclists.
Nothing applies to cyclists apparently!
USELESS POLICE in London leave the drug dealers with ILLEGALLY TINTED FRONT WINDOWS and MISREPRESENTED NUMBER PLATES well alone and pick on a cyclist doing 22 MPH !!!
@Advanced Driving 😂
let alone "knife crime"...
There is an offence of ‘cyclist failing to comply with a traffic sign’ so they can and should be prosecuted. It used to be a fixed penalty.
Unless there’s a local bylaw saying otherwise speed limits do not apply to bicycles.
You can be charged with cycling furiously, but they need to prove you’re actually endangering people in your actions for that.
it says "new law"
@@davidjones-vx9ju it says a new 20 mph speed limit, and speed limits do not apply to bicycles unless a bylaw specifically says so, and there is no such bylaw for that area, which btw, is also nowhere near the city of London, which is where OP claims the new speed limit is.
Well if they are undertaking a motor bike with a speedo then they must realise they are going to fast simple really hope they got a speeding fine
cyclists who breach the speed limit may not be prosecuted for a speeding offence but they can, however, be prosecuted for “cycling furiously” or “wanton and furious cycling.”
A cyclist cannot actually be stopped for “wanton and furious cycling” as the offence only applies if an injury is suffered. A bike is considered a carriage under highways law, and The Offences Against the Person Act 1861 (as amended by the Criminal Justice Act 1948) states:
While you can't normally be charged for speeding on a bicycle, you could be charged for careless cycling instead. Furthermore, local bye-laws can impose limits on cyclists. For example, the 20mph limit in Richmond Park in London applies to cyclists as well as motorists.
That would be difficult to show that it was "careless cycling", the similar case with driving is without due care and attention, which is falling below the standard of a competent driver.
Speeding does not necessarily mean that, which is why, for driving, exceeding the speed limit is a separate, and specific, offence. Not all speeders are dwdca, and the same could be said for cyclists.
There was a time when when cyclists overtaking a high powered motorbike on a wide open road would have been absolutely unheard of but as we can see in this video now it happens all the time every day
Well, I suppose it's easier and much less confrontational than stop and search. In my 50 plus years of riding a bike, the only person I've ever harmed is myself!
Many years ago I was pulled over entering Lyndhurst. Got clocked by a hand held laser at 41 in a 30 limit. Luckily I was breaking as I was unsure why he was pointing it at me. At first I was quite chuffed until the Police officer gave me the lecture with threats of points and convictions. This was in the mid 90's and I had not device to indicate my speed but he said "that was irrelevant". I was given a "road side caution" !
There is still no speed limit for cyclists but they can be prosecuted for wanton and furious cycling.
Once upon a time I was stopped on the south side of Trafalgar Square. Police said I had cycled through a red light from Admiralty Arch. I said no I didn't, stood my ground pointing back at the lights as the phases changed allowing traffic from Admiralty Arch to go when it was stopped from where they were and they just walked back to their patrol car silent.
(I wish I had that on camera, but it was the 90s) Happy cycling!
As far as I understand it, speed limits do not apply to pedal cycles, however there is a historic law of "pedalling furiously"
I may be wrong in this though
You are wrong
No speed limits apply to cyclists.
I be racing cars going 35, i have a motorbike now, never buying a bicycle again
When since are bicycles, motor vehicles?
I know. Cyclists seem to straddle a line that people can't cope with. They achieve speeds much greater than a pedestrian can. Therefore the bike is a useful conveyance, a vehicle. Yet in many situations riders have the low speed situational awareness AND vulnerability of a pedestrian. It is extremely tempting and many times beneficial for cyclist in various settings to combine the nuances of both with varying degrees of success. As a cyclist it's common sense to me, but it infuriates a lot of non cyclists.
Speed limits do not apply to cyclists. Most have no way of measuring their speed nor are they required to do so. If riding dangerously at speed you can be charged with ‘cycling furiously’ - but rare!
maybe you should inform the police
I would politely decline their invitation to pull over...
There is no speed limit for cyclists and can't be prosecuted for speeding or get points on their car licence with a fixed penalty notice, unless the case goes to court but they can be prosecuted for wanton and furious cycling. The last prosecution for wanton and furious cycling purely that came about solely for speeding by a cyclist was in 1879. The law has recently been used though when two cyclists in two separate incidents, killed 2 pedestrians and were gaoled.
You won’t stop them they do as they please
Hmmm.....interesting. how many points for a speeding cyclist? Do they see insurance premiums go up? 🤔
Not sure about points, but I Think, if they Have a licence, it can be endorsed. If not, they’re held on record until they apply, then get them.
I Could be wrong there.
Certainly can be fined
@@paulcollyer801 No, there is no offence of speeding for a pedal cycle in the UK. Your driving licence can only be endorsed for a motoring offence.
www.slatergordon.co.uk/newsroom/can-cyclists-break-the-speed-limit/
Im 10 years old and i once went over the speed limit by 6.25mph.yes.it was a 20 zone
If nyone can answer plz..i take my kid to school i cycle nd have her seat installed in the front of me...2day an officer told me to get off the road as its dangerous mayb cuz there was no cycle lane there..m pretty sure we r allowed to cycle in london even in roads without cycle lane nd it wasnt even sme high speed dual carriageway road..jst a regular road with max speed of 30mph..i dunt get by wht getting off road means..cuz other option is cycling on pavement which iz illegal..can polkce officer tell us to stop cycling altogether? .. i need to cycle to drop my kid to school..kinda confused as wht to do .nd i cannt walk there as its quite faraway
Hey,
There could be a number of reasons why potentially the officer said you should not ride on that road. For example, could have been a very busy road with not much space for a calm rider with a child on. Or could have been that he/she assessed your competence and thought you were in danger (no offence intended here).
As far as I know, if the bike is altered to allow a passenger (in this case a child seat) AND there are no signs prohibiting cycling, you should be able to ride.
What I suggest is finding quite cycleways and avoiding main roads. You can also use paths near the river or by the extensive network of canals across town. This will make your trip both safer, more enjoyable and with less toxic fumes down your lungs.
There is a number of resources you can use to plan your routes better, depending where you live. You could use the TFL website (tfl.gov.uk/modes/cycling/routes-and-maps/cycleways), an app like the Santander app or buy hard copy maps for your area from places like sustrans (shop.sustrans.org.uk/products/london-cycle-map-53?_pos=1&_sid=4e7bd241f&_ss=r).
I got my maps back when they were free from a train station information centre. Maybe there are still some copies out there. They show a much more detailed network of cycle routes, including canal towpaths, river footpaths and more.
The only way to stop them speeding is to make cyclists register and fit number plates to the back of them one law for one one law for all or discriminate against the car drivers which is wrong..
Having number plates doesn't seem to stop some car drivers speeding though
@sethc6663 Loosing their license and hence ability to be on the road (after getting a ticket) definitely works though 😎
time to put number plates on bikes so they get nicked like car drivers
🤣🤣
He wasn't pulled for speeding. There's. O such thing for a cyclist. It would never hold up in court and would be thrown out by the CPS. Cyclists don't have speedometers as a general fitted device. It's impossible for a cyclist to know, that's why speed limits only apply to motor propelled vehicles aka cars, motorbikes etc
Maybe it was for reckless riding? Or maybe because he made a gesture when he overtook me?
We cannot be sure what the conversation was, but he was definitely pulled though..
@@akamood He could be fined for wanton and furious cycling, but then again, I didn't see anything crazy apart from overtaking which was a genuine thing to do, I'd do the same as I cycle faster than most I come across, in London anyway.
He did nothing wrong. It's so weird for a constable to pull a cyclist, especially for this video you've shown. God knows what he wants.
@@TheLondonCyclist It's 'weird' for a constable to stop a cyclist because they simply cannot be stopped.
Even when a prohibition of cycling order has been made, and the correct signage erected, the bastards STILL cannot be stopped.
Only on a Motorway can you reasonably expect not to encounter cyclists, and even then it is because cyclists have CHOSEN not to ride there.
The situation is completely out of hand, and the wider availability of this clean, economic form of urban transport is being held back by these self-obsessed 'sportsmen' .
Pedantically - this footage is not shot in the 'City of London'. The term only applies to the so-called 'square mile' (the financial district) which has a separate governance structure and its own police force. It looks as though it was shot on the embankment/Millbank near Tate Britain, which is in Westminster.
I don’t get this notion repeated in the comments that BECAUSE cyclists don’t have speedometers they cannot be fined for speeding. It’s just illogical. It’s not my speedo reading that convicts me. (I’m a cyclist and driver, btw.)
Well you cannot be fined for speeding as a cyclist given it's not an offense for cyclists.
I will never be caught above 20 mph on a bike.
Not because l m a good citizen
Simply because l can t go that fast lol
I would have just kept riding wth? Theres no number plate lmao
I've never been out of the USA. Can someone fill me in on the meaning of those zig zag markings on the street. They seem to show up around intersections; what do they signify? Thanks. 👍
Hi LL, White zigzags are commonly found either side of pedestrian crossings. They are designed to indicate that parking and overtaking in these zones is strictly prohibited.
@@akamood -- Thanks for the response. Guess one is never too old to learn something new. 🚴👍
That’s odd. Speed limits don’t apply to cyclists. Must have been a red light or something.
Im surprised they even stopped at the red light.
The comments below only go to illustrate how cyclists pick & choose which law does/doesn't apply to them.
20 Mph or Kph? 20Mph is moving right along for a road bike, much less a commuter with baskets. If you are coasting, you aren't going over 20mph on a flat.
Well, it is the speed limit.
Better invest in an accurate head unit if you're intending on cycling fast.
People should be sure they know the Highway Code before making accusations.
great to lycra men being stopped for speeding and red light jumping we need more of this policy
He wasn't pulled for speeding. Even the paperwork for Vision Zero (the 20mph limit on TfL roads) states that it only applies to motor vehicles on the specified road.
Probable that the officer witnessed the dangerous overtake of another vulnerable road user at the very start of the clip (between the motorcycle and the other cyclist), and stopped them to offer some words of advice on the safety of their riding.
Not in this video! Nothing happened! You can’t do a cyclist because it is not a mechanically propelled vehicle
Cyclists are not subject to speed limits. Silly but true.
Reg Harris regularly got speeding tickets around Macclesfield if you don't know who he is look it up in your History books with e-bikes and e-scooters that can now break the national speed limit we need some limits or form of registration
Back in the 60's my mate and me got pulled up for doing 36mph on a tandem in South London we were well chuffed to be officially told that by a policeman!
I don't even u derstand why they all dress up for riding a bike and go that fast in a city.
Here they go outside the city, to go fast and in the city, your wear your normal clothes and cruise around. You will still be faster than a car, where you need to be and you don't sweat.
There are no speed limits for bikes here, but it is also not needed.
I don't think the speed limit extends to cyclists as bikes don't need speedos, he might have got stopped for dangerous passing perhaps, or jumping the lights or going over a zebra crossing.
Cyclist speeding ticket lmaooo 😭😭 uk down bad
I thought cyclists didn’t have to follow speed limits 🤣
They literally don't on most roads in the UK. There's no speeding offence that applies to cyclists
They follow the rules they want at the time to suit them
@@davidbrooks7113 but they literally don't have to follow speed limits so it's not a question of picking and choosing
Why did both cyclists deliberately break the law by going past the white stop line when there was a red light? Did they not know the law or just not care?
You said cyclists? The answer to your questions is... Yes.
@@troyjollimore4100 on both counts?
@@winnie6354 All three questions. But it's a whimsical answer to make you laugh. No, most cyclists don't care, but they aren't really doing anything that hurts anyone else. It's the ones that get lippy when they DO hurt someone that need a slap.
Speed limit doesn't apply to bicycles or velocipedes, only motor vehicles, police was in the wrong and should've known better!
Are they getting 3 points on a non licence
Speedometers or all bikes should be next and lights and 10 mph limits.
he should get LIFE for that! And by that I mean riding a bicycle LMAO
These cyclist make me laugh in their lycra...they all actually believe their professional racers and are competing in the tour de France ..😆
They weren't stopping cyclists for speeding, it was a check on uninsured, untaxed and unlicensed taxis and drivers that hadn't paid fines.
I don't bike in london i just like the dorky guy on the thunb nail.
Pathetic,a few years ago you would have got laughed out the station for issuing a fine to a bike.
They should be fined 20mph is 20mph no matter what u se to break it cycles have killed people as well
me...hitting 24 on my fat bike with a 52tooth chain ring ;)
that is terriffic any cyclist over limit fin $80,000 and lose bike for 70 yrs I understand everyone will say that is to light thogh