What you must all remember is that modern cars have difficulty going as slow as 20mph. Driver has to keep using their brakes to maintain that slow speed. Which means their eyes are more on the speedometer than the road, thereby reducing safety not improving it. The very slowest speed which provides road safety and full driver attention, is 25 mph. Also at slow speeds, emissions are higher, as the engine is less efficient; the slow speed causes longer queues of traffic, so the pollution increases greatly in those slow speed areas. The whole plan is badly thought out and helps no one. It set back our historical progress as advanced human beings. Effectively we are going back to the days of horse and cart. What a crazy world we are living in!
As a school kid in the late 1950s I was bike mad and would build my own bikes out of bikeshop leftovers. But the school run had to be on a conventional bike so mine was a BSA with steel mudguards, rod brakes three speed hub gears and a fat saddle, but I did fit a speedo to the front wheel. I rode it down High Barnet hill on the A1 to see if I could reach the 30-mph last reading. All went OK and I reached 30 mph but then a copper on a grey Velocete motorbike pulled alongside and signaled me to stop. I explained I was only trying to see if I could reach the full speed on the dial. After a safety talk, he let me go on my way. In those days before being allowed to cycle to school we had to pass The Cycling Proficency Test, bikes were tested at least once a term by the police. Any with faults had to be fixed before riding home, any serous defects the bike was impounded until parents collected it. All new pupils were taught the Green Cross Code by police in the first week of joining the Secondary Modern School and they would set up traffic lights, zebra crossings etc. to show the safe way to cross roads, walk on country road without pavements and told what to wear at night. Sadly, this practice has not continued and lots of parents don't bother teaching their loved one's road sense either.
That was an good example of how to cycle on the roads. You stayed on the left out of the way of traffic and also adjusted your positioning and speed according to conditions around you. Good.
Now you have done that journey at 20mph, the next step will be the same journey at an average speed of 25mph. That is what I used to do, 100 klicks at 18mph, for two weeks, to get fit, and then increase by 5mph increments for each block of two weeks. I did finish the training route, 3 months later, at an average speed of 30mph, and I won two 10 mile, and one 25 mile time trials, plus my highest ever finish in a 140 klick road race, 4th. Must have targets.
it seems like with the prevalence of smart watches, it could just use gps data from your phone, or gps on the watch itself to calculate travel speed regardless of what vehicle you're on, or even if you're walking. there has to be an app for this
Not quite sure what the point is? Strangely enough, a couple of days ago I was doing the twenty limit in a neighbouring village and I was overtaken by a push bike. I suppose I should be grateful that I wasn’t undertaken. 😂
You don't push it, you pedal it! 🙂 Seriously though - I've been cycling for about 60 years, raced in my youth and commuted thousands of miles to work by bike over the years. Of course, I drive as well. You ask what the point of the video is. I'd say it's this: the big mistake made by many motorists is that they underestimate the speed at which cyclists can travel. I've had drivers cut across my front wheel as they pull across to park, and also come out of side junctions too quickly, nearly causing an accident. If you're turning right and a cyclist is approaching from the opposite direction, don't be impatient - just wait a few seconds until you've 'crossed' each other and the road is clear. I've had near misses in such situations. That said, cyclists also need to show consideration to motorists and pedestrians!
@@Sandy-r4d yes, I know that. As a photographer, I know that a wide angle makes the foreground appear closer than it is and the horizon further than it is. The net effect with video is to make movement appear faster than it is. A more realistic focal length, like a 50mm, will reduce exaggerated speed and visuals.
Actually a narrower FOV with a longer lens makes things appear faster and more dramatic. Wide angle would’ve “slowed” it down. Racing simulators have to battle balancing FOV with the feeling of speed. Too little FOV and players feel like they’re looking out a tiny window. Too much and they feel like the speed of the car is unrealistically slow as opposed to their speedometer.
If the bicycle used in the video was travelling at 20mph, then this video does not show 'what 20 MPH looks like on a bicycle'. How can I be so confident? A gentle reminder for those unused to analytical interpretation of dashcam footage. These cameras generally feature extreme wide angle lenses. Such lenses result in footage that superficially resembles what one might actually see, except when watching the exact same scene with the naked-eye. a) With dashcam footage the apparent visual (angular) size of objects falls-off much more rapidly as the distance of the object from the camera lens increases, when compared with what would be seen by a person. b) One side effect of a) is that apparent distances from the camera seem much greater than they would appear to a human observer. c) *Speeds of objects, away from and towards the camera are greatly exaggerated. This means the camera on the bicycle appears to be moving considerably faster in the video than it was in reality.* How can we know what kind of lens was used, unless we know the details of the camera or we were present at the time? This is much easier for footage filmed in daylight conditions. It is much more difficult at night, unless there was adequate artificial light and suitable objects with vertical features to aid judgement by. Note: All objects are distorted: The human eye sees straight verticals and horizontals variously as vertical or horizontal and *straight*, while dashcam camera lenses distort everything, they only show straight verticals and horizontals as straight - but only if they pass through the centre of the lens' field of view, if they're off-centre, they will be curved, increasingly-so, as they approach the edges of the picture-frame. Edges of buildings, lamp posts road signs and bridges are useful to look for. For footage from a moving camera, lamp posts etc. will appear to curve towards the camera as the camera passes them. The upshot of that is that anyone with eyes to see can tell this video was shot through a wide-angle lens, but only when they know what to look for. For instance at 0.06, just before the cyclist passes the bollard in the middle of the path, there is a vertical post on the left that appears to bend alarmingly as the camera passes it. This is evidence that the camera has a wide-angle lens fitted which means the apparent speed in the video is greater than it would appear to the naked eye. Therefore, the title of this video is incorrect.
Yeah the whole of Wales? 😂 Bloody hell mate they need to take all them 40 signs down near where I live then lol. I'm sure the A55 is a hoot as well at 20mph. Almost unbelievable
Be careful near cars doing 20, we're bored, playing with the radio, looking in shop windows, looking at peoples houses, the gardens, the views.. at 20mph my mind drifts off and im taking a mental nap.. its dangerously slow..
The levers consist of both braking and gearing. The movement of the main silver body of the lever to the left is to select a lower gear. The movement of the black inner lever to the left is to select a higher gear. In other words push the outer silver lever to the left the chain moves from the small cog at the rear to the big cog. Push the black lever to the left and the chain drops down towards the small cog.
Well I would even go as far as to say I can pretty much guarantee that at 20mph it would take exactly 12 minutes to go 4 miles 😂 Sorry I know that's not really what you meant x
What you must all remember is that modern cars have difficulty going as slow as 20mph. Driver has to keep using their brakes to maintain that slow speed. Which means their eyes are more on the speedometer than the road, thereby reducing safety not improving it. The very slowest speed which provides road safety and full driver attention, is 25 mph. Also at slow speeds, emissions are higher, as the engine is less efficient; the slow speed causes longer queues of traffic, so the pollution increases greatly in those slow speed areas. The whole plan is badly thought out and helps no one. It set back our historical progress as advanced human beings. Effectively we are going back to the days of horse and cart. What a crazy world we are living in!
I totally disagree.... develop your skills by leaving car in highest gear as possible & then slack off the gas (easy to do especially on flat roads) .....been able to do this for years!
The type of dirty looks you get on a bike (e-bike for speed context) in Wales now has changed. You still get just as many but they're more frustrated and sometimes with a whiff of envy cause let's be honest I'm not really gonna get a ticket posted through my door am I 😂 But you don't even have to be going any quicker but just going the same speed somehow annoys people. I get overtaken and then stay behind the same car for miles 😂 Like what was the point in that mate you can't go anywhere lol
@@argonaut6386 Doubt it. Also tbh mate the place I live is so rural I could ride my bike naked and not get in trouble 😂 Registration plates for bikes is fucking ridiculous
@@BEAN.MACHINE Well it won't be long before an e bike is involved in a serious accident with a pedestrian especially as some are being made very powerful. It will cause a need for traceability just as it is in a car. Unfortunately as usual it's the minority that mess it up for the majority. Also not everyone that uses them lives in rural areas 👍
@@caroleast9636 Errr e-bikes DO have motors, ditto e-scooters: ELECTRIC motors. Similar to the original mopeds that had pedals. A gray area which the law will probably deal with soon in some fashion. They are supposed to be speed-restricted but the restrictors are often bypassed, and if a de-restricted one is involved in a crash I suspect the owner may be facing serious liability issues.
@@speedjunkie813 the title just makes it look like the author wants to make it look special like those videos where someone filmed going 200mph on the highway, while actually being pretty much standard
And not once did he look behind him to check for on coming cars or when over taking really show what cyclists do they totally no thought for there safety or anyone else no wonder they are involved in accidents
Played it at 2x to see what 40mph looks like
🧠
The ominous music really adds a lot 😆
As someone who actually rides a bike, and who goes 20mph regularly, that looks about right.
Thank you 👍
🤔 hmm i think im in 18-20 on my mtb
In Wales, the limit is now 20 mph, which I drove at yesterday. This looks faster than 20
When you are in a car everything feels slow
If you were hanging face down over the front bumper it would probably feel more like this
It feels a lot quicker on a bike. I have an electric bike which sits just under 20 and that feels quite nippy compared to 20 in a car
What you must all remember is that modern cars have difficulty going as slow as 20mph. Driver has to keep using their brakes to maintain that slow speed. Which means their eyes are more on the speedometer than the road, thereby reducing safety not improving it. The very slowest speed which provides road safety and full driver attention, is 25 mph. Also at slow speeds, emissions are higher, as the engine is less efficient; the slow speed causes longer queues of traffic, so the pollution increases greatly in those slow speed areas. The whole plan is badly thought out and helps no one. It set back our historical progress as advanced human beings. Effectively we are going back to the days of horse and cart. What a crazy world we are living in!
@@razachaswills5076 Yep. But whitout horses
Watching this and it suddenly dawned on me that this is Plymouth, my home town. Haven't been back in almost 8 years and not much has changed!
Some of it looked pretty grim.
@@nickmiller76 Most of the area being filmed has always been pretty grim!
This is what driving in Wales now looks like.
As a school kid in the late 1950s I was bike mad and would build my own bikes out of bikeshop leftovers. But the school run had to be on a conventional bike so mine was a BSA with steel mudguards, rod brakes three speed hub gears and a fat saddle, but I did fit a speedo to the front wheel. I rode it down High Barnet hill on the A1 to see if I could reach the 30-mph last reading. All went OK and I reached 30 mph but then a copper on a grey Velocete motorbike pulled alongside and signaled me to stop. I explained I was only trying to see if I could reach the full speed on the dial. After a safety talk, he let me go on my way.
In those days before being allowed to cycle to school we had to pass The Cycling Proficency Test, bikes were tested at least once a term by the police. Any with faults had to be fixed before riding home, any serous defects the bike was impounded until parents collected it. All new pupils were taught the Green Cross Code by police in the first week of joining the Secondary Modern School and they would set up traffic lights, zebra crossings etc. to show the safe way to cross roads, walk on country road without pavements and told what to wear at night. Sadly, this practice has not continued and lots of parents don't bother teaching their loved one's road sense either.
50 years later there was 16 year old me trying to do the exact same thing on the same hill haha
Did you get pulled by the bill???@@SkyersJet
@@TheByard No.
I used to cycle at about 15mph. That was more comfortable for sustained cycling.
That was an good example of how to cycle on the roads. You stayed on the left out of the way of traffic and also adjusted your positioning and speed according to conditions around you. Good.
He’s mostly at primary position and ‘traffic’/motorists have a responsibility to keep away from vulnerable road users
that's because he's not Jeremy (the invincible) Vine
A Cyclist who actually stops at Red Lights
Now you have done that journey at 20mph, the next step will be the same journey at an average speed of 25mph. That is what I used to do, 100 klicks at 18mph, for two weeks, to get fit, and then increase by 5mph increments for each block of two weeks. I did finish the training route, 3 months later, at an average speed of 30mph, and I won two 10 mile, and one 25 mile time trials, plus my highest ever finish in a 140 klick road race, 4th. Must have targets.
We have tested bike speedometer and 86 % that show 20 mph were actually doing 25 to 27 mph.
Just an estimate on my part. Thanks!
More like 31mph 50km!
What speedometers were you using? My XOSS G+ was showing the same with a motorcycle. (not always but its around 90% the same)
A calibrated rolling road .
it seems like with the prevalence of smart watches, it could just use gps data from your phone, or gps on the watch itself to calculate travel speed regardless of what vehicle you're on, or even if you're walking. there has to be an app for this
When you get a text saying "power there"
Not quite sure what the point is?
Strangely enough, a couple of days ago I was doing the twenty limit in a neighbouring village and I was overtaken by a push bike. I suppose I should be grateful that I wasn’t undertaken. 😂
You don't push it, you pedal it! 🙂
Seriously though - I've been cycling for about 60 years, raced in my youth and commuted thousands of miles to work by bike over the years. Of course, I drive as well. You ask what the point of the video is. I'd say it's this: the big mistake made by many motorists is that they underestimate the speed at which cyclists can travel. I've had drivers cut across my front wheel as they pull across to park, and also come out of side junctions too quickly, nearly causing an accident.
If you're turning right and a cyclist is approaching from the opposite direction, don't be impatient - just wait a few seconds until you've 'crossed' each other and the road is clear. I've had near misses in such situations.
That said, cyclists also need to show consideration to motorists and pedestrians!
A wide angle lens distortion makes it appear fast. Film it again and use a 50mm lens.
It is wide angled.
@@Sandy-r4d yes, I know that. As a photographer, I know that a wide angle makes the foreground appear closer than it is and the horizon further than it is. The net effect with video is to make movement appear faster than it is. A more realistic focal length, like a 50mm, will reduce exaggerated speed and visuals.
Why don't you go film it with a 50?
Actually a narrower FOV with a longer lens makes things appear faster and more dramatic. Wide angle would’ve “slowed” it down.
Racing simulators have to battle balancing FOV with the feeling of speed. Too little FOV and players feel like they’re looking out a tiny window. Too much and they feel like the speed of the car is unrealistically slow as opposed to their speedometer.
@@wongasaur what? No mate. You obviously have no experience using lenses.
The speed gives 1 MPH of the feeling, and the music gives 19.
The music matches perfectly 👌!
Thanks
This got the SCP: 1365 illustrated music fr
If the bicycle used in the video was travelling at 20mph, then this video does not show 'what 20 MPH looks like on a bicycle'.
How can I be so confident?
A gentle reminder for those unused to analytical interpretation of dashcam footage. These cameras generally feature extreme wide angle lenses. Such lenses result in footage that superficially resembles what one might actually see, except when watching the exact same scene with the naked-eye. a) With dashcam footage the apparent visual (angular) size of objects falls-off much more rapidly as the distance of the object from the camera lens increases, when compared with what would be seen by a person. b) One side effect of a) is that apparent distances from the camera seem much greater than they would appear to a human observer. c) *Speeds of objects, away from and towards the camera are greatly exaggerated. This means the camera on the bicycle appears to be moving considerably faster in the video than it was in reality.* How can we know what kind of lens was used, unless we know the details of the camera or we were present at the time? This is much easier for footage filmed in daylight conditions. It is much more difficult at night, unless there was adequate artificial light and suitable objects with vertical features to aid judgement by. Note: All objects are distorted: The human eye sees straight verticals and horizontals variously as vertical or horizontal and *straight*, while dashcam camera lenses distort everything, they only show straight verticals and horizontals as straight - but only if they pass through the centre of the lens' field of view, if they're off-centre, they will be curved, increasingly-so, as they approach the edges of the picture-frame. Edges of buildings, lamp posts road signs and bridges are useful to look for. For footage from a moving camera, lamp posts etc. will appear to curve towards the camera as the camera passes them.
The upshot of that is that anyone with eyes to see can tell this video was shot through a wide-angle lens, but only when they know what to look for. For instance at 0.06, just before the cyclist passes the bollard in the middle of the path, there is a vertical post on the left that appears to bend alarmingly as the camera passes it. This is evidence that the camera has a wide-angle lens fitted which means the apparent speed in the video is greater than it would appear to the naked eye.
Therefore, the title of this video is incorrect.
Now this is the car speed limit in wales 😂
Lol
Yeah the whole of Wales? 😂 Bloody hell mate they need to take all them 40 signs down near where I live then lol. I'm sure the A55 is a hoot as well at 20mph. Almost unbelievable
I drove to Cardiff and back. A handful of the roads were 20. Wasnt a big deal.
Bro wtf is it that fast, thats my running speed 20-21 mph 💀
Be careful near cars doing 20, we're bored, playing with the radio, looking in shop windows, looking at peoples houses, the gardens, the views.. at 20mph my mind drifts off and im taking a mental nap.. its dangerously slow..
This is how fast I sprint
That’s why I came here too lmao
The immense fun of being a motorist these days ffs
now i know how fast my ebike will go
There's plenty of info out there to let you know how fast your ebike will go - 15.5 mph.
@@Sandy-r4d u got the click congrads
As someone who drives a spaceship which moves at hundreds of light years per second, this looks to slow
@Jowley What planet's have you visited?
What is happening when you keep pushing the lever to the left? i can't find a particular pattern to it, happens both when slowing and speeding up.
The levers consist of both braking and gearing. The movement of the main silver body of the lever to the left is to select a lower gear. The movement of the black inner lever to the left is to select a higher gear. In other words push the outer silver lever to the left the chain moves from the small cog at the rear to the big cog. Push the black lever to the left and the chain drops down towards the small cog.
ALWAYS have attached an Oxford safety Wing
I've not seen a combined gearshift and brake lever before!
thats how you shift gears in all roadbikes
@@monochrome_linux - not on the ones I've seen and ridden - in the UK.
whats with the eerie sound?
Everyone's senses and perspective is different. I find it relaxing.
The music makes me feel spooks. 😮
so how long do you think it would take to do 4 miles at this speed?
12-15 minutes depending on environment / traffic
Well I would even go as far as to say I can pretty much guarantee that at 20mph it would take exactly 12 minutes to go 4 miles 😂 Sorry I know that's not really what you meant x
Are those men in lycra going to give cars 6' clearance when overtaking?
20 mph on a bike is 5 times the speed af a pedestrian, equivalent of a car going 100 mph if you want perspective.
In other words: water is wet
Is that the music from plague Inc?
What is point?
The sharpened tip of a tool or weapon - e g. An arrow head
Or it could mean "I say could you point me in the right direction... one appears to be lost?"
If you count the centre road markings it takes 3 seconds to pass three so the cyclists is doing 30 not 20
What you must all remember is that modern cars have difficulty going as slow as 20mph. Driver has to keep using their brakes to maintain that slow speed. Which means their eyes are more on the speedometer than the road, thereby reducing safety not improving it. The very slowest speed which provides road safety and full driver attention, is 25 mph. Also at slow speeds, emissions are higher, as the engine is less efficient; the slow speed causes longer queues of traffic, so the pollution increases greatly in those slow speed areas. The whole plan is badly thought out and helps no one. It set back our historical progress as advanced human beings. Effectively we are going back to the days of horse and cart. What a crazy world we are living in!
Nope. You use a lower gear like 2nd.
I totally disagree.... develop your skills by leaving car in highest gear as possible & then slack off the gas (easy to do especially on flat roads) .....been able to do this for years!
Wide angle lenses make it look so fast.
Lol no. It’s different when your biking compare to driving car
Why did you choose horror/mystery music for this video
The type of dirty looks you get on a bike (e-bike for speed context) in Wales now has changed. You still get just as many but they're more frustrated and sometimes with a whiff of envy cause let's be honest I'm not really gonna get a ticket posted through my door am I 😂 But you don't even have to be going any quicker but just going the same speed somehow annoys people. I get overtaken and then stay behind the same car for miles 😂 Like what was the point in that mate you can't go anywhere lol
I bet it won't be long though before you end up having to have a registration plate just for the reason you state.
@@argonaut6386 Doubt it. Also tbh mate the place I live is so rural I could ride my bike naked and not get in trouble 😂 Registration plates for bikes is fucking ridiculous
@@BEAN.MACHINE Well it won't be long before an e bike is involved in a serious accident with a pedestrian especially as some are being made very powerful. It will cause a need for traceability just as it is in a car. Unfortunately as usual it's the minority that mess it up for the majority. Also not everyone that uses them lives in rural areas 👍
You won’t get a ticket on your bike. The speed limit only applies to motorised vehicles. Check the Road Traffic Acts if you don’t believe me.
@@caroleast9636 Errr e-bikes DO have motors, ditto e-scooters: ELECTRIC motors. Similar to the original mopeds that had pedals. A gray area which the law will probably deal with soon in some fashion. They are supposed to be speed-restricted but the restrictors are often bypassed, and if a de-restricted one is involved in a crash I suspect the owner may be facing serious liability issues.
We might as well all buy bikes
That would certainly be more healthy for you!!!
Less visits too fuel station ? They’ll will be complaining next 😂
4:44 😱😭
Plymouth aha
Nice roads
That’s about 24 mph
yeah but cyclists don,t have to abide by the 20 mph law !
D P F ‘s don’t function at 20 mph
thats has been speeded up
It looks like all the cyclists got their wish then!
Please show...21...mph.
That's an idea 💡
What's so special about riding 20mph? It's not that fast, I regularly go up to 30-35mph on mine.
same bro, I'm more of a 50mph cyclist. 45mph on a bad day. hah, sometimes I like to think what if i had some tt bars prob like 110mph?
@@DSRT888 Yeah, right.
Nothing they just showing what it looks like. Most cheap high potential e bikes are limited to 15- 20 mph because of limiters
@@speedjunkie813 the title just makes it look like the author wants to make it look special like those videos where someone filmed going 200mph on the highway, while actually being pretty much standard
Get a grip you absolute 🎈
It's fast but not that fast some people can run faster 😮
How long those people can maintain a fast maintain speed????
His little legs must be a blur.
Hi
And not once did he look behind him to check for on coming cars or when over taking really show what cyclists do they totally no thought for there safety or anyone else no wonder they are involved in accidents
How do you know he isn't looking behind? It might not be a helmet camera
This is not filmed from a helmet camera. The video is permanently looking straight ahead just above the level of his hands on the handlebars.
Sorry to say but that ain't no 20 mph leave it
More like 19.5
more like 20.5
More like .5
@@yosten5812 8
@@rosamerlujan5510 that’s my favorite number actually. Thank you
who cares,
I don't