I love the more... "interesting" bombing modes in the M2000. INS bombing is great for airfields as well. And a four ship of M2000's dropping INS on a SAM site can take out the air defenses while another 4 ship comes in with BAPS's right after and smashes the runway. However, when I use INS bombing in multiplayer (which I do from time to time) I like it for targets on defended sites and from high altitude. Smashing a Colum of vehicles on a straight road for example. It can also be very, very effective on ships in harbors. Piers and shorelines show up well on the M2000 Radar if you turn the filters off, so you can get a very good INS fix on a point, then do either a low or high attack run on stationary ships. (and if the ship damage model was better it would make this more fun.) Lately I've been spending more time dropping Mk83's from radar mapping in the hornet. Of course the Hornet has a much more accurate navigation system. But I've found that with any free fall bombs at 20k and above, there isn't a huge difference in the accuracy of a map designation on the hornet dropping through clouds, or a Mirage 2000 dropping Mk82 off the INS when you get a good fix. I can't remember if the M2000 will allow dropping laser guided bombs in INS mode, but that would also be very effective on multiplayer when there's a JTAC. (some of the servers i play on hate targeting pods apparently, because there are always multiple cloud layers...) Anyway, great video. I I'd love to see how you two use the M200 and the INS system to make a BAP strike on a runway with a 2 ship. That'd be interesting. (smashing runways is far more amusing to me than it probably should be)
I use this technique many times. However, I recommend setting the offset in the ME. The bearing/range offset using the ruler and data panel has poor resolution. Delta lat long is just as good if you can't edit the mission plan, you just have to change the coord system on the F10 map to absolute and do some subtraction.
Really like the video, but I'm slightly confused by what happens around the time from when he does the AG designate to update the location of the waypoint onwards: The distance suddenly jumps from 0.X km to 12km, does he push the BAD (offset waypoint) button to do that, or does it happen automatically somehow?
Hi, Scav here - glad you liked the video! Provided your PCA is set to IP mode as in the video, pressing AG Designate will automatically change your destination from your BUT to your BAD.
Degrees and decimal minutes is an interesting choice - iirc the strength of this format is a minute of latitude is 1 NM. so does Dassault / M2000 / AdlA use NM? I'd have thought they'd use km
I would not recommend using the polar BAD method to setup a CCPL-PI attack, as the units used are just too coarse. Using a preplanned (as in entered through the ME/MIP) DeltaL/G method you get far more accurate offsets. PS : The RD also displays on the VTB, which may be easier to use because the VTH cues can do strange things if you are not within the parameters to intercept the course the way the engineers designed the thing.
@@Sidekick65 This is a bit of an annoyance I have with DCS (and a really minor one in the grand scheme of DCS annoyances), modules aren't consistent with "trim up", "trim nose up" etc. nomenclature, and "trim up" might mean either "trim nose up" or "trim hat up/fwd" depending on the mod, and lead to the opposite effects... =P
Perfect timing. We have just been following your guides for the Scooter. And the M2000c was planned to be our next machine.
3:12 For the record it was used by Super Étendard against Syrian artillery in Lebanon on September 22nd 1983. 😉
I love the more... "interesting" bombing modes in the M2000. INS bombing is great for airfields as well. And a four ship of M2000's dropping INS on a SAM site can take out the air defenses while another 4 ship comes in with BAPS's right after and smashes the runway. However, when I use INS bombing in multiplayer (which I do from time to time) I like it for targets on defended sites and from high altitude. Smashing a Colum of vehicles on a straight road for example. It can also be very, very effective on ships in harbors. Piers and shorelines show up well on the M2000 Radar if you turn the filters off, so you can get a very good INS fix on a point, then do either a low or high attack run on stationary ships. (and if the ship damage model was better it would make this more fun.)
Lately I've been spending more time dropping Mk83's from radar mapping in the hornet. Of course the Hornet has a much more accurate navigation system. But I've found that with any free fall bombs at 20k and above, there isn't a huge difference in the accuracy of a map designation on the hornet dropping through clouds, or a Mirage 2000 dropping Mk82 off the INS when you get a good fix.
I can't remember if the M2000 will allow dropping laser guided bombs in INS mode, but that would also be very effective on multiplayer when there's a JTAC. (some of the servers i play on hate targeting pods apparently, because there are always multiple cloud layers...) Anyway, great video. I I'd love to see how you two use the M200 and the INS system to make a BAP strike on a runway with a 2 ship. That'd be interesting. (smashing runways is far more amusing to me than it probably should be)
Hey - everyone needs a hobby! Thanks for the detailed feedback - it's appreciated.
cool stuff to try! Thanks for this
Let us know how you make out!
That livery is rad. It also makes me wish a 102/106 was in the game :(
I use this technique many times. However, I recommend setting the offset in the ME. The bearing/range offset using the ruler and data panel has poor resolution. Delta lat long is just as good if you can't edit the mission plan, you just have to change the coord system on the F10 map to absolute and do some subtraction.
thanks for the suggestion
Really like the video, but I'm slightly confused by what happens around the time from when he does the AG designate to update the location of the waypoint onwards: The distance suddenly jumps from 0.X km to 12km, does he push the BAD (offset waypoint) button to do that, or does it happen automatically somehow?
Hi, Scav here - glad you liked the video! Provided your PCA is set to IP mode as in the video, pressing AG Designate will automatically change your destination from your BUT to your BAD.
@@procrastinathan9201 OK, when in PI your A/G designate goes from your BUT to a BAD place, gotcha.
Degrees and decimal minutes is an interesting choice - iirc the strength of this format is a minute of latitude is 1 NM. so does Dassault / M2000 / AdlA use NM? I'd have thought they'd use km
They do to display distances in the AG modes, and when planning a deltaL/G offset.
I would not recommend using the polar BAD method to setup a CCPL-PI attack, as the units used are just too coarse.
Using a preplanned (as in entered through the ME/MIP) DeltaL/G method you get far more accurate offsets.
PS : The RD also displays on the VTB, which may be easier to use because the VTH cues can do strange things if you are not within the parameters to intercept the course the way the engineers designed the thing.
Thanks. Good to know
it takes too much time when you are already flying towards targets
Nice video 👍🏽
But it's not "Trim Down" to pitch up (with AP engaged), it's "Trim Up" 😉
depends on your definition of "down" and up, I guess. I knew understood what Scavenger meant.
@@Sidekick65 This is a bit of an annoyance I have with DCS (and a really minor one in the grand scheme of DCS annoyances), modules aren't consistent with "trim up", "trim nose up" etc. nomenclature, and "trim up" might mean either "trim nose up" or "trim hat up/fwd" depending on the mod, and lead to the opposite effects... =P
wait what how did you play the french anthem lol