Add Whitney Webb in that conversation and it’ll be the best discussion hands down. Specially if Webb is able to get them to open up about certain topics
“The problem with geniuses is they got lots of problem like other people do, but they are also geniuses.” This is so true, the bar is so high for certain people just because they are talented, people tend to even dehumanize high performers.
Look at the way he moves in hand when he says but their also geniuses.. he said that exactly how Ye would say it, the body language and all even the inhale after the sentence and stop and look at you.. that was spooky lol
No the problem with genius is they understand things on a deeper level than most people are able to comprehend and therefore they come off as crazy to the vast majority of the population
Exactly! We should promote redemption, not a lifetime condemnation. When someone is having a hard time and if we could do something to help for them to be better individuals, why not. Society will benefit from a changed man.
Jordan is clueless. People aren't envious of minorities that are wealthy, such as east Asians or some gulf Arab communities in America, they hate it when a certain minority exclusively runs an industry and shows clear favoritism towards their own while harboring a cutthroat environment towards outsider artists they latch on to. This certain minority has been doing it for ages in the music industry, literally dozens of famous bands since the 20th century and now who were either torn apart or stripped of rights to their own music due to some heinous feud, and coincidentally it's always this particular minority. Now they have rappers on a leash, and have shady practices that would have immediately been called out if it was perpetrated by whites. Jordan is clueless. It's also done in sports and acting... Jordan will just make a fallible equivalencies about human scapegoating and other psychological phenomena while ignoring blaring facts and history.
(Preface: I’m not siding with either party in my response below) Lex kept trying to get Ye to “apologise” and kept missing Ye’s point about WHY he tweeted what he did. Regardless of my position on the inflammatory tweet, Lex needed to rise above that element and get to the crux, as he had with other topics he discussed with Ye.
@Mar It I'm saying Kanye is having a fucking hissy fit, ok he has reason 2 be angry and call out the bs that happens in the world but he is a bastard 4 spreading and initiating hate against innocent Jews. Would it be ok if I woke up and I was famous and tweeted something against black people and people started attacking them because a famous person said they are responsible for other's problems that had nothing to do with them? NO. I get Kanye is frustrated man and he is clever at but Lex was calling him on his general BS when it should have been directed more specifically not generally
I requested it like 2 years ago on a Q&A survey run by Mikhaila I think but for Jordan's RUclips channel, I don't remember how popular that request got but I remember seeing others discreetly mentioning throughout social media that they saw a resemblance in the patterns of thought of Kanye and Jordan, I did too and think it would be an actual dream come true to see how their conversation would go. Also, I want to see Jordan in some Yeezy that would be remarkable and unforgettable.
He evidently as wronged so many people close to him so to assume she’s the one in the wrong is ridiculous. She put up with his behavior for years and if you bother to look past a 15 year old incident you would know she was his biggest supporter, she even ended up encouraging him to wear the MAGA hat if he felt like it despite being on the opposite political end. When he had panic attacks she was literally right there crying with him and the second they file for divorce he’s off with a million models. And she gets in one single relationship months after and Kanye is nonstop harassing both of them online.
I always said that about Michael Jackson. People tried to relate him to his brothers or to other men when he was clearly not only a very unique emotional cocktail of childhood trauma and hyper-fame, but also a bonafide genius that experienced the world in ways that would have been evident even if he never become THE Michael Jackson. We can accept it in autistics, yet geniuses just seem to be 'gifted' when they dazzle us, and mentally ill when they express themselves in ways that are considered damaging by the populous. That isn't to say that geniuses should exist outside of our agreed upon moral and ethical codes or that they're so far from being human that they're some other form of life, but the ignorance required to act as though there is no distinct difference at all, leaves us missing something crucial.
his critics are going to be jumping out of their chairs now that he actually said something directly offensive for the first time ever. however as usual, they'll be severely hampered by the context.
How did you justify spending money on therapy when it can so often be disappointing, incorrect, and not worth the money. I'm having trouble justifying that risk after so much expensive failure for years.
Both Chinese and Indians are highly successful minorities and they do not receive the same response. And the response the Jewish people receive has been consistent across vast reaches of space and time. To suggest it has nothing to do with their own bad behaviour is frankly absurd.
They are successful, but not nearly as successful as Jews. Look at how many Nobel prize winners, chess champions, millionaires, and fields medal winners are Jewish. Now contrast that with Chinese and Indians. You can blame it on bad behavior or just accept reality - Jews are more successful. Blaming it on bad behavior is frankly, idiotic. But by all means, keep being antisemitic.
Jordan doesn't hear this enough but it's true. Canada loves you and are proud of you. Trudeau would never say that but who cares. The people have spoken.
well being the leader of Canada he should mention all Jordan has done and the people he has helped but he never will. unlike his father, Justin always plays it safe and tries to be so PC its embarrassing.
That’s the thing. People often take JP’s words out of context and project their own ideas. That was good of Andrew to point out. It’s tough to communicate ideas properly when inferences, which are obvious to some, but subtle to others, are missed.
@@mspaint93 contribute positively to society, stop indoctrinating our kids with sexual-perversión and race-hate, and you can prevent the eventual retaliation of civilization.
@@mspaint93 in the past we have had to clean the earth of liars cowards thieves pedophiles and perverts. If this debauchery keeps up, we will have to do it again.
People from all polarities coming together to have a focused concise conversation with empathy and compassion while being able to express tough love. 👍
Some people were given very little support in their early life or were told to 'suck it up' and shown little kindness. Then the pressures of fame & fandom literally blow an underdeveloped, unsupported psyche to the four winds. Stubbornness can come from pain too & fear of failure too.
JP is team Shapiro, he just got back from Israel too. He even insinuated in this short clip that's easy to draw conspiracies when a minority is disproportionately successful. The thing is, it's not a conspiracy and they've been controlling the media and many other aspects of people's lives for a very long time. There is no way JP will back Kanye, he thinks Kanye needs help and wants to offer him some help.
Nah he "normal" like everyone else, he just speaks his mind and non of that fake pc stuff. Imagine people spoke whats in their mind 100% honestly, we'd all be judged like kanye.
Been trying hard to like this guy but it just doesn't seem to be happening? Hopefully JP can shed some light? *As far as geniuses go he doesn't hold a candle to JP imo? Not even close.
@@maisondav1d yes I can imagine it was right up until the 80's on most subjects. Then PC activists/thugs started to be heard and listened to and the rest is history( rough guesstimate on timeline some may say 70's or even 60's) but that's just my opinion.
I'm very glad to hear this! I knew Kanye was friends with Candace Owens so when all this started I immediately thought man, I really wish she would introduce him to JP. They need to have some private conversations and hopefully JP can gently steer him in the right direction. JP has been so valuable to so many of us, perhaps he can inspire Ye as well
@@soiralknarf Im sure Jordan is well aware that his excuses simply do not account for nearly the influence we see. ESPECIALLY if he's read two hundred years together by solzhenitsyn. For some reason Peterson turns a blind eye to the huge nepotism that goes on. Which is an issue because, like Peterson has mentioned before in other interviews, you want to be around people like yourself, which have a common and shared interests. Now when you have a massively disproportionate numbers of jewish people that DIRECTLY control major branches of that countries financial, political, and media landscape, you might start wondering if that groups common and shared interests are perhaps different than the common and shared interests from the rest of the country. I don't think he's even mentioned that Jews, as a group, are overwhelmingly left wing, and some of the most radical of them, often are jewish as a disproportionate rate.
@@subverted6555 exactly the book I was thinking of, also JP has a deal with the daily wire, which is run by a huge zionist ben Shapiro, hopefully the interview will be good though
"Steer him in the right direction" that's the problem and that you don't see a problem with that is a bigger problem. If JP thinks like you the conversation will be pointless
"Our fellow Whites are noticing, better send out Peterstein again to give them another lecture on how they're all just individuals and not part of a collective like us."
@@jbayne91jb No I was using a popular meme used to highlight that he's married to one, works for them, is heavily promoted by them and gatekeeps for them. Is this your first day on the internet?
@@noogate2672 you do know there are only like 14 million jews left in the world right? Not everyone is a jew lmao. Its funny when people think jews are everywhere. They are technically "endangered species" at this point
This touched me since i was in one church and the pastor there never seemed to tried really talking to me. He asked me once or twice how am i and it seemed to be usual conversation, but since i said i was ok he very quickly proceeded doing other things and never showed interest in my state of soul. Since he was the pastor i thought God was on his side, and that it was my fault, cause i should be the one asking for help if needed and it is true, but then again its nice to see that someone can try to reach to person in a normal nondramatic way. Just try to talk, see whats going on. Jesus helps me to forgive those who were weak to reach for me, since it is very hard to reach to someone who has problems and is hard to open up, like i was. Im not saying this is the case with Jordan Peterson and Kanye, but something about Jordan Peterson being so ok with talking to Kanye makes me feel liberated from some of the wrong stuff i received in my heart from the time being in that church even though its generally a good church.
Pastors are generally very busy people. If you need a pastor's help, you should ask for it. I'd say pastors as a group might be more empathetic on average than the general population, but to expect one to detect your inner turmoil on the evidence of a neutral answer to "How are you" is unreasonable.
(Jesus helps me to forgive the people who were too weak to reach me) sounds a little narcissistic. From what I've gathered from religion is that you should submit to jesus or God completely, not in another person albeit a pastor a friend or even family. Only God can lead you back to yourself
That last point “geniuses have lots of problems just like ordinary people do but they are also geniuses, yeah?, well that’s a good thing to keep in mind” that point from Jordan is genius 👏👏
I feel like Jewish people look down on anyone that is not Jewish. Huge generalisation I know but it’s my experience of living in a predominantly Jewish area in London. I have nothing against Jewish people
Man this is one in a life time event!! 😂😂😂😂 Seriously, Kanye can learn so much from Jordan Peterson- he can actually treat him with his disorder and he would understand Kanye to the T. We could all learn something from that conversation when and if it happens.
Yes but lex and Piers have the elite level influence and coverage JP doesn’t. Those guys are literally media outlets whilst JP is the local psychologist everybody (the internet) loves If Ye went to JP he would have got his point across but no one would hear about it. Kanye knows what he’s doing, true genius ♟ Also Kanye’s stature is too elite it would affect his brand and his handlers most likely won’t let him do a localised interview, nothing Ye does is small, everything has to be larger than life then leveraged on steroids and controversy
Kanye never said there’s a conspiracy. He merely pointed out things that have happened to him. The strawman argument is used to make him seem like a bad person. Why would we argue against kanye in this manner rather than deal with the fact that many jews have done horrible things to harm him? Should we examine the fact that there seems to be a pattern? Is it possible that the fact that jews are shielded from all criticism has created a moral hazard wherein jews are able to get away with bad behavior?
Wtf did Jews do to harm him? Is it “THE JEWS” fault he married a whore and took his kids away from him? Is it the Jews fault he flip flops every month in business? Is it the Jews fault he signed a shitty contract??? Do you not read contracts before you sign them? Stop being a fan boy and grow up
You said something like "imagine your race being attacked." I dont have to imagine. White people are the most attacked race in the country, perhaps the world.
He might not have said the word conspiracy, but that's most likely why JP said "conspiratorial". Because it is a conspiracy. And true one, just like the Super Subtle Author theory against Undesigned Coincidences in the NT. YHWH backing you to be more successful than sinners is always the greatest conspiracy to sinners - even more so to their nephilim, just as SSA is true because the author is the Holy Spirit.
1:35 "I'm planning to talk to Kanye soon, I think. . . . I'd like to find out what's going on: he's a stunningly creative person. . . . Too much of a treasure to throw in the dust bin.
The fact that Jordan Peterson called Kanye a genius is another example of how devalued that word has become. Every one who is the slightest bit talented or creative is a fucking genius, ha. Comedic genius, musical genius, skate-boarding genius, business genius. Yes, such a meaningless word now.
The College Dropout was a pretty revolutionary album in rap / hip-hop genre when it first came out. Then he did it again with My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy (which is widely considered his greatest album). And he produced these albums by himself.
Well, Jews make business together and grow together from centuries, so it is kind of conspiracy. Not blaming them for that but it's a fact worth noticing.
@@DJEmonTV not nearly to the same degree as Jews. Do they all sit around the table and conspire? No, but they definitely have that attitude. (To make business with and share the wealth primarly with other Jews)
@@tomaszzubiak543 my friend, whose conspiring? Stop believing idiots it’s just not true! I’m Jewish myself. If there are Jewish people who want to do harm to the world, I’ll be the FIRST to condemn them. Just like how real muslims hate ISIS.
@@DJEmonTV Well, I just said that they are not conspiring, at first I said that it's a KIND of conspiracy. But conspiracy is a very inflammatory word so I would probably not use it in this case. I have nothing against Jews or any other nationality or race, you can find good and bad people everywhere. My comment was an observation that Jewish traditional culture is quite hermetic in terms of for example marrying and doing business. Do you disagree?
As much as I respect Peterson I believe he is not framing the question that Kanye has posed (although haphazardly). Which is: Given that we understand there is some degree of group identity and shared motivation among groups, what are the effects when a particular group has a monopoly over a number of industries, especially when those industries are heavily involved in shaping perception? Its strange because Peterson usually uses this line of questioning with many other issues, yet with this one he seems intent upon framing it as "they are successful because of high IQ, anyone who says otherwise is jealous. Its also worth noting that Andrew Schulz made an incredibly questionable hit video on Kanye after his remarks in which he desperately read from his prompter and mocked Kanye having his kids taken away. A few days later he announced that he had been signed by CAA, the talent agency that dropped Kanye for his comments.
That's a fair question but why isn't it raised about other groups and it so happens its always "the jews" that are inquired about in this manner when other ethnic and private social groups have similar niches in different industries. Where are the conspiracies about irish catholics for example monopolizing certain professions. Surely they have a presence that is overrepresented in some occupation but almost no recorded inquisition about it in the last 100 years (to my knowledge) and certainly less that the recorded pattern of anitsemetic rhetoric since at least the last few centuries.
@@avertingapathy3052 To begin with, many questions are raised about over and under representations of various ethnic groups, often on podcasts such as this one. On top of that, the conclusions drawn are often unfavorable and centered around specificities surrounding those groups and their culture as well as motivations. The issue of black crime and its association with a high rate of single parent household is often discussed. Issues surrounding Muslim extremism and its proportions within the Muslim community are often discussed as well. Both of these issues for instance have been discussed by Dennis Prager and Sam Harris, both who are Jewish. Yet both have recently denounced the issue in question as being inherently "antisemetic".
@@refromaa7750 Sure unpopular issues are discussed and this is one of them. I'm just merely pointing out that sharing group related motivations in professions and monopolies seems to be something posed square to "the jews" when similar patterns of organization contiue to exist among many groups. Group cohesion and shared heritage has some value but this is almost entirely framed as all jews own the media and no other factors such as roles of class or neoptism is ever brought up in discussions of monopolies. We are speaking about a wealthy minority within a minority but when it comes to discussion of the issues unified jewish agenda operating irrespective of say class or neoptism within a community is always presumed as the supposed ill.
@@avertingapathy3052 I don't think that is how the discussion is being framed. Again, people do discuss overrepresentation of Asians in various fields as well. The reason why people discuss Jewish representation in these particular fields is because these areas have enormous power in dictating perception and policy. Further, many people do indeed notice narratives which center around particular political, foreign policy, and social issues that are in alignment with what we could call Jewish interests. I don't actually think its even accurate to frame the accusation of "why doesnt anyone talk about other groups and their representations in various fields", as this particular issue involves a number of influential domains, which have not been dominated by any other group currently and historically. Its probably more accurate to frame the question "do people point out over representation of other groups in areas where a negative impact is observed. As I said before, clearly people do this frequently with regards to Black crime and other areas.
They way Kyrie Irving is being given a public flogging for posting a silly documentary, and the total misrepresentation of what Kanye’s been saying by mainstream media has been the most eye opening part of all this. It’s exactly the kind of tyrannical behavior JP has is always calling out. I don’t think he’s looked into the situation at all- either that or he’s being willfully naive for some strange reason.
I hope their conversation is private. I'd be happy to hear what either would like to share afterward, but I'm hoping Ye gets real help, not just another moment to be a spectacle.
Ye didn't say anything about "minorities", that sounds like a red herring IMHO. He addressed very specific cases of mistreatment and exploitation of black artists, athletes and actors and he claims to have a lot of evidence and experience regarding those unfortunate events of exploitation. A long discussion between Ye and JBP would be extremely beneficial for everyone.
Dr. Peterson understands what we all already know who has a head on our shoulders ...Kanye IS FAR FROM CRAZY...Kanye is absolutely a creative Genius. This is coming from someone who doesn't even enjoy the type of music and fashion he creates...but if you do respect and see the visionary pieces that he is influencing the world, not taken from the world, you see he is quite special. Very very special.
One specific minority group that owns a majority of the influence and wealth, not just in America but the whole world, is a pretty fair cause for concern and conspiracy
He is objectively genius in music industry. Man knows how people listen to music or what kind of music people would be interested in listening at least a half decade before everyone. He revolutionized the industry multiple times. And sold yeezy successfully. You give yeezy to someone else and ask them to sell it, nobody would even consider buying it. Kanye sold yeezies.
Peterson values money over truth and integrity that's why he will never go full kanye and address the core of today's issues. He'd rather capitalize on false hope and snake oil
Dr. Peterson explains it well because normally this is described as a racist trope even when leaning towards the positive. But it’s true. Jews are a tiny percentage of the population - globally - but are very over represented in number of Nobel prizes, discoveries, at universities, in professional areas like medicine, accounting and law; in business, in entertainment, as talented performers, as writers and directors. The list goes on an on and on. You can’t fake all that success. It just is. I don’t understand it but whatever. More power to them. If you, the person who does not like Jews, thinks they are too influential and successful then YOU can buckle down, do the hard work and become successful yourself. Don’t mind them. Worry about yourself.
you are out of focus. it is NOT their success that is being discussed here and perhaps this agenda was set by JP in an attempt to steer the conversation that way BUT it is not the problem. It's WHAT is being done with such a power. Can powerful people become corrupted? If they are, can they be criticized for it? By the same people who are being victimized but this corruption? Those were the real questions eluded here by JP perhaps voluntarily
The Jewish people are especially good in area where there is alot of talking like Law, politics, Business , media. So he‘s not actually wrong with some facts. I hope you‘ll adress that
someone please tell Dr.peterson the chance of a convo with Ye THE ARTIST FORMERLY KNOWN AS Kanye would most definitely rise by calling him by his preferred/real/new name REAL TALK
I want to take a bit of a jab at what Dr. Peterson said about minorities here, especially when they're rich. I don't condone this belief, but from what I've seen from the anti-semite crowd is less of a complaint that they're rich, and moreso what they do with the disproportionate wealth. It's a very different claim. They don't mind people being rich, as they're typically not left-wing in their economic views, but they often critique what they promote with the companies they own. So in your discussion with Kanye, you need to keep this in mind, since Kanye himself is a wealthy minority, so I highly doubt that his recent remarks are inspired by that.
You’re on to something here. Kanye is basically saying in the entertainment industry you have to tow a political/ideological line with what you say- and it’s largely Jewish execs enforcing this- with the kinds of tactics JP himself calls out. The repercussions for stepping out of line Kanye described sound horrific. He claims because like 80-90% of black entertainers are contracted under Jewish management, they are controlling the black voice.
He also didn’t generalize all Jewish people but is targeting corruption in the entertainment industry; contrary to how it’s being reported. He said when he calls out corrupt individuals he gets ignored, well smeared in the press, but his concerns are ignored- this seems like almost a last resort to get peoples attention and get them to listen. Which seems to have worked.
That would be an interesting interview as Peterson is a psychologist and Kanye struggles with bi-polar. Surely, Peterson picks up on Kanye's struggles and how he would navigate that interview would be interesting.
What is the subtext here? Isn't being intelligent and "successful" more likely to actually conspire over the "less successful"? Is that not possible and we should just dismiss the notion? (Note, I don't know much about the actual facts here, so maybe he's right in this case but still, shouldn't generalize). Then he implies he knows more than Kanye (again, maybe he does) but he will talk to him to straighten him out, after all he's a genius and genius - like ordinary men - have issues. All geniuses are equal but some are more equal than others.
the last part is a good thing to keep in mind, though i'm not sure i understand Ye's "genius" status he just seems to me like a regular talented person like other talented persons but i don't know enough about him
His background is likely not what you think. Unconstrained creative intelligence is typically a burden to the person, and those around them. The Rap thing was his calling card.
Man, Schultz is super annoying. You can tell Peterson is annoyed by him too. Peterson is having a run on podcasts, interviewing narcissists a lot lately. Schultz, Matthew McConaughey, Piers Morgan, and now Kanye to name a few. This must be like a case study for him.
Peterson talking to Kanye, is a Superbowl level interview. Please let it happen.
It's better that happens in private
@@user-nc9pc3gr4c why?
@@tsunami2447 He need real help.
@@user-nc9pc3gr4c In your opinion. Funny how people online think they're licensed clinicians. For all I know, you may need help.
@Kirk Tuss Good for you. I Rather see Kanye vs Peterson. I'm pretty certain you will watch it too, despite, what you have already seen
Imagine a round table discussion with Andrew Tate, Ye, and Kyrie Irving, all moderated by JP. Would break the internet
Add Whitney Webb in that conversation and it’ll be the best discussion hands down. Specially if Webb is able to get them to open up about certain topics
I see this happening.
Broooooo!!!!!
One more person. Dr. Umar to not only drop the mic after every sentence but break the chair as well
I must be the only one who has no idea who those people are.
"College Dropout is a bloody great album. It also speaks to the fact that more men drop out off college than women, fundamentally speaking."
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Wrong album 😭
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You nailed that 😂
Hahahaha genius
JP and Kanye is the interview I would watch for 8 hours.
Same
Right
Put Andrew Tate in as well
@@CarlosVelazquez26 lol yes!
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“The problem with geniuses is they got lots of problem like other people do, but they are also geniuses.” This is so true, the bar is so high for certain people just because they are talented, people tend to even dehumanize high performers.
This reminded me of Ronaldo's interview with Morgan.
Look at the way he moves in hand when he says but their also geniuses.. he said that exactly how Ye would say it, the body language and all even the inhale after the sentence and stop and look at you.. that was spooky lol
No the problem with genius is they understand things on a deeper level than most people are able to comprehend and therefore they come off as crazy to the vast majority of the population
@ZION HUNTER glad to see someone has looked deeper into it. Their obsession with the number 6 is not a coincidence
@David if you can’t make out the message from that. Then you’re just out of luck.
The world should feel very blessed that this man is getting air time. Compassion and intelligence are in short supply these days.
Dr Peterson is all of the above that you describe. ❤ 🇬🇧
specially both together
Exactly! We should promote redemption, not a lifetime condemnation.
When someone is having a hard time and if we could do something to help for them to be better individuals, why not. Society will benefit from a changed man.
So vomit-inducing.
Yea especially since he helped write agenda 21 and cant answer the simple question of do you believe in God
Jordan is the only person I want to see talking with Ye - damn right he's a treasure. Really wish Ye had just avoided the likes of Lex, Piers etc.
Jordan is clueless. People aren't envious of minorities that are wealthy, such as east Asians or some gulf Arab communities in America, they hate it when a certain minority exclusively runs an industry and shows clear favoritism towards their own while harboring a cutthroat environment towards outsider artists they latch on to. This certain minority has been doing it for ages in the music industry, literally dozens of famous bands since the 20th century and now who were either torn apart or stripped of rights to their own music due to some heinous feud, and coincidentally it's always this particular minority. Now they have rappers on a leash, and have shady practices that would have immediately been called out if it was perpetrated by whites. Jordan is clueless. It's also done in sports and acting... Jordan will just make a fallible equivalencies about human scapegoating and other psychological phenomena while ignoring blaring facts and history.
What's wrong with Lex? That was a good interview
(Preface: I’m not siding with either party in my response below) Lex kept trying to get Ye to “apologise” and kept missing Ye’s point about WHY he tweeted what he did. Regardless of my position on the inflammatory tweet, Lex needed to rise above that element and get to the crux, as he had with other topics he discussed with Ye.
Lex had the balls to call him on his bullshit
@Mar It I'm saying Kanye is having a fucking hissy fit, ok he has reason 2 be angry and call out the bs that happens in the world but he is a bastard 4 spreading and initiating hate against innocent Jews. Would it be ok if I woke up and I was famous and tweeted something against black people and people started attacking them because a famous person said they are responsible for other's problems that had nothing to do with them? NO. I get Kanye is frustrated man and he is clever at but Lex was calling him on his general BS when it should have been directed more specifically not generally
Kanye doesn't need help
Thr ones that don't notice need help
He's actually suffering mentally tho.
100% fax
Real life! He just needed to get out of those vampire kardashsss and he is out alive, thank God
You better know him well to come out with that "bold" statement.
Seeing JBP having a chat with Kanye is like a surreal dream
WE NEED THIS TO HAPPEN
YESSS!!!
He likely means in a therapeutic sense; I doubt this would be a public conversation. Kanye needs help.
JP would give Kanye honor where it is due while still digging into depths.
It’s possible considering Matthew McConnaughy happened
He needs to be heard. Thats all. Just because he doesnt follow your rules doesnt mean hes broken.
Ill be waiting for that damn interview for sure
It might well be private.
Go watch the Lex Friedman / Kanye West podcast on RUclips if you want to hear the nutjob talk. It's difficult to sit through.
I want it to be private
It might be private like the one he had with CR7.
I requested it like 2 years ago on a Q&A survey run by Mikhaila I think but for Jordan's RUclips channel, I don't remember how popular that request got but I remember seeing others discreetly mentioning throughout social media that they saw a resemblance in the patterns of thought of Kanye and Jordan, I did too and think it would be an actual dream come true to see how their conversation would go.
Also, I want to see Jordan in some Yeezy that would be remarkable and unforgettable.
"a bit too much of a treasure just to throw in the dust bin" is a noble thing to think.
@Louis Baldwin that's like saying imagine if a pron star was a virgin.
He evidently as wronged so many people close to him so to assume she’s the one in the wrong is ridiculous. She put up with his behavior for years and if you bother to look past a 15 year old incident you would know she was his biggest supporter, she even ended up encouraging him to wear the MAGA hat if he felt like it despite being on the opposite political end. When he had panic attacks she was literally right there crying with him and the second they file for divorce he’s off with a million models. And she gets in one single relationship months after and Kanye is nonstop harassing both of them online.
@@birkknut276 prawn star
@@Shophiamondar2i hope kim sees this and adopts you bro, get tf outta her with that shit
I always said that about Michael Jackson. People tried to relate him to his brothers or to other men when he was clearly not only a very unique emotional cocktail of childhood trauma and hyper-fame, but also a bonafide genius that experienced the world in ways that would have been evident even if he never become THE Michael Jackson. We can accept it in autistics, yet geniuses just seem to be 'gifted' when they dazzle us, and mentally ill when they express themselves in ways that are considered damaging by the populous. That isn't to say that geniuses should exist outside of our agreed upon moral and ethical codes or that they're so far from being human that they're some other form of life, but the ignorance required to act as though there is no distinct difference at all, leaves us missing something crucial.
This is the most accurate comment I’ve read in some time.
@@isaaccephus6936
You shd read more.
Also read a book on physics while you're at it. Lots of accurate statements there.
@@nochso6835 Modern physics is unproven nonsense
@ZION HUNTER Get them Adolf!
"Minorities are annoying" ~Jordan Peterson
I strongly concur (I'm racist btw)
his critics are going to be jumping out of their chairs now that he actually said something directly offensive for the first time ever. however as usual, they'll be severely hampered by the context.
@@arian6565
What makes you a racist?
so you're saying you hate minorities... - kathy newman
@@winstonbrown1516 Winston: are you racist
Arian: who says I'm racist?
Winston: you say you are racist
Arian: I am an aryan
Winston: ☠️
I've talked to therapists over the years and it's helped put a lot of misconceptions in my mind in the right places. I feel more grounded than before.
He needs to be heard. Thats all. Just because he doesnt follow your rules doesnt mean hes broken.
You ever complement traditional therapy with psychedelic therapy sessions?
How did you justify spending money on therapy when it can so often be disappointing, incorrect, and not worth the money. I'm having trouble justifying that risk after so much expensive failure for years.
money not well spent.
You should've just went to Bali
@@alvinashagarwal3939 Yes for real.. that was a disjointed bot thread... an advert for Bali? Certainly not a replacement for good therapy 😆
OY VEY
Find another place to sully you evil coward
Both Chinese and Indians are highly successful minorities and they do not receive the same response. And the response the Jewish people receive has been consistent across vast reaches of space and time. To suggest it has nothing to do with their own bad behaviour is frankly absurd.
They are successful, but not nearly as successful as Jews. Look at how many Nobel prize winners, chess champions, millionaires, and fields medal winners are Jewish. Now contrast that with Chinese and Indians. You can blame it on bad behavior or just accept reality - Jews are more successful. Blaming it on bad behavior is frankly, idiotic. But by all means, keep being antisemitic.
Chinese and Indians are more new to USA. Once they are more established, the hate will start.
The difference is that the Chinese and Indian communities are not overt.
"The thing about geniuses is that they also have problems like everybody else."
Ah.... I needed to hear that! =)
Stephencarlbad.
You silly silly😆
@@winstonbrown1516 😂
All these problem have been created by man....but why instead of living in peace and love
As a genius i agree
I too am genius and I conquer
Jordan doesn't hear this enough but it's true. Canada loves you and are proud of you. Trudeau would never say that but who cares. The people have spoken.
🇬🇧 shouts it loud and clear..he's a force for good. ❤
He is a Jewish puppet. Funny cause he literally sounds like Kermit.
Who cares what Trudeau thinks.
well being the leader of Canada he should mention all Jordan has done and the people he has helped but he never will. unlike his father, Justin always plays it safe and tries to be so PC its embarrassing.
That’s the thing. People often take JP’s words out of context and project their own ideas. That was good of Andrew to point out. It’s tough to communicate ideas properly when inferences, which are obvious to some, but subtle to others, are missed.
Certainly Jordan Peterson, who just had dinner with Ben Shapiro and Bibi Netanyahu, will be able to convince Kanye that there's no Jewish conspiracy.
Hahaha
In a world full of hysteria, mr Peterson is the calming influence we need, man.
He is a zionist
@@primeminister1040 go argue with someone else
@@thedude9752 stay blind
Agreed.
@@primeminister1040 I will give you a moment of Fame . Can you back up your claim . I will look fwd to your reply 😁
He needs to be heard. Thats all. Just because he doesnt follow your rules doesnt mean hes broken.
JP used to work for the UN under George Soros.
Howd this age man
@@mspaint93 contribute positively to society, stop indoctrinating our kids with sexual-perversión and race-hate, and you can prevent the eventual retaliation of civilization.
@@mspaint93 in the past we have had to clean the earth of liars cowards thieves pedophiles and perverts. If this debauchery keeps up, we will have to do it again.
People from all polarities coming together to have a focused concise conversation with empathy and compassion while being able to express tough love. 👍
@ZION HUNTER shut up
damn they got jp too.
He's consistent.
This is gaslighting to an unbelievable degree. Watch Europa THE Last Battle
J P is like everyone's wise uncle, he'll just sit you down and be like " what's up buddy? Looking a little down".
Love Jordan but he took an L on the conspiracy, Kanye West literally showed the statistics of Jewish owned Media companies.
It very suspect I'll say.
Kanye woke up to the truth
Fax
Yes
They're attacking Kanye & crying foul at the same time...
@@venividivici6418 They always cry out in pain as they strike you.
The only truth he woke up to was that Jews are smart, so what?
JP boutta take matters into his own hands
been did that lol
Lmbo
I am glad that Mr peterson is going to have a word with Mr West,we all need help at sometime in our life,but some people are very stubborn
Agreed, you can't get help if you're stubborn and don't want it
The first step is accepting there is a problem and seeking help
Some people were given very little support in their early life or were told to 'suck it up' and shown little kindness. Then the pressures of fame & fandom literally blow an underdeveloped, unsupported psyche to the four winds.
Stubbornness can come from pain too & fear of failure too.
Yes Jordan could do with some help from Ye
Yeah, maybe Ye can illuminate why all the hours jp spent droning about the bolsheviks he never once mentions the khazars or the star of remphan
@@onecowstampede9140 he is a zionist himself 😂
Make sure before you do any of that you watch ‘Europa: The Last Battle’ so you can get a little bit of background into what Ye is talking about.
Jordan Peterson who 100% chickened out of talking about what Kanye talked about, when asked directly at an event Q&A. Will be interesting to see this.
Thinking before speaking is not chickening out, you should try it.
He chickened out because the ones you cannot criticise will destroy him just like they did to Kanye, Mel Gibson and many others
@@mickeyandres2651 But thinking b4 speaking and then not saying what needs to b said is definitely chickening out.
He knows where the line is. The "globalists" don't like it when you criticize them. They move all their pieces to cancel you.
JP is team Shapiro, he just got back from Israel too. He even insinuated in this short clip that's easy to draw conspiracies when a minority is disproportionately successful. The thing is, it's not a conspiracy and they've been controlling the media and many other aspects of people's lives for a very long time. There is no way JP will back Kanye, he thinks Kanye needs help and wants to offer him some help.
Honestly Kanye needs this intervention. Kanye says some things that make sense but he needs a therapist like JP.
He has to humble himself and accept the therapy.
Nah he "normal" like everyone else, he just speaks his mind and non of that fake pc stuff. Imagine people spoke whats in their mind 100% honestly, we'd all be judged like kanye.
Been trying hard to like this guy but it just doesn't seem to be happening? Hopefully JP can shed some light?
*As far as geniuses go he doesn't hold a candle to JP imo? Not even close.
@@maisondav1d yes I can imagine it was right up until the 80's on most subjects. Then PC activists/thugs started to be heard and listened to and the rest is history( rough guesstimate on timeline some may say 70's or even 60's) but that's just my opinion.
Nope, he doesn't
The problem is that Kanye is correct but struggles to articulate, whereas Jordan is incorrect but can easily articulate.
Exactly
I'm very glad to hear this! I knew Kanye was friends with Candace Owens so when all this started I immediately thought man, I really wish she would introduce him to JP. They need to have some private conversations and hopefully JP can gently steer him in the right direction. JP has been so valuable to so many of us, perhaps he can inspire Ye as well
Hopefully Ye can steer Jordan Peterson in the right direction.
@@soiralknarf Im sure Jordan is well aware that his excuses simply do not account for nearly the influence we see. ESPECIALLY if he's read two hundred years together by solzhenitsyn. For some reason Peterson turns a blind eye to the huge nepotism that goes on. Which is an issue because, like Peterson has mentioned before in other interviews, you want to be around people like yourself, which have a common and shared interests. Now when you have a massively disproportionate numbers of jewish people that DIRECTLY control major branches of that countries financial, political, and media landscape, you might start wondering if that groups common and shared interests are perhaps different than the common and shared interests from the rest of the country. I don't think he's even mentioned that Jews, as a group, are overwhelmingly left wing, and some of the most radical of them, often are jewish as a disproportionate rate.
@@subverted6555 exactly the book I was thinking of, also JP has a deal with the daily wire, which is run by a huge zionist ben Shapiro, hopefully the interview will be good though
Ye is already pointed in the right direction
"Steer him in the right direction" that's the problem and that you don't see a problem with that is a bigger problem. If JP thinks like you the conversation will be pointless
"Our fellow Whites are noticing, better send out Peterstein again to give them another lecture on how they're all just individuals and not part of a collective like us."
Did you just say Peterson is Jewish? Lmao.
@@jbayne91jb No I was using a popular meme used to highlight that he's married to one, works for them, is heavily promoted by them and gatekeeps for them. Is this your first day on the internet?
@@noogate2672 you do know there are only like 14 million jews left in the world right? Not everyone is a jew lmao. Its funny when people think jews are everywhere. They are technically "endangered species" at this point
This touched me since i was in one church and the pastor there never seemed to tried really talking to me. He asked me once or twice how am i and it seemed to be usual conversation, but since i said i was ok he very quickly proceeded doing other things and never showed interest in my state of soul.
Since he was the pastor i thought God was on his side, and that it was my fault, cause i should be the one asking for help if needed and it is true, but then again its nice to see that someone can try to reach to person in a normal nondramatic way. Just try to talk, see whats going on. Jesus helps me to forgive those who were weak to reach for me, since it is very hard to reach to someone who has problems and is hard to open up, like i was. Im not saying this is the case with Jordan Peterson and Kanye, but something about Jordan Peterson being so ok with talking to Kanye makes me feel liberated from some of the wrong stuff i received in my heart from the time being in that church even though its generally a good church.
Generally speaking:
You wont find god in the church
I saw “touched me” and “pastor” next to each other and definitely made an assumption before actually reading lol
Pastors are generally very busy people. If you need a pastor's help, you should ask for it. I'd say pastors as a group might be more empathetic on average than the general population, but to expect one to detect your inner turmoil on the evidence of a neutral answer to "How are you" is unreasonable.
(Jesus helps me to forgive the people who were too weak to reach me) sounds a little narcissistic. From what I've gathered from religion is that you should submit to jesus or God completely, not in another person albeit a pastor a friend or even family. Only God can lead you back to yourself
@@timeforwar6312 I'm actually impressed, that's bang on 👏👏 well done
That last point “geniuses have lots of problems just like ordinary people do but they are also geniuses, yeah?, well that’s a good thing to keep in mind” that point from Jordan is genius 👏👏
I think Jordan's blind angle is the 'conspiratorial' one. I wish he would invite Whitney Webb and listen most carefully.
Where can I read more about this Webb person
@@adrianoss.bougas3720 RUclips. Look up interview with Glenn Beck.
When conspiracy is deemed as ridiculous as a concept I lose allllllll trust in the speaker
Kayne is right
He had me in the first half 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I feel like Jewish people look down on anyone that is not Jewish. Huge generalisation I know but it’s my experience of living in a predominantly Jewish area in London. I have nothing against Jewish people
You start to understand,they are extremely narcissitics.
Been waiting for the conversation for years. Two very different types of geniuses having a conversation.
Can't wait 🙂
Man this is one in a life time event!! 😂😂😂😂 Seriously, Kanye can learn so much from Jordan Peterson- he can actually treat him with his disorder and he would understand Kanye to the T. We could all learn something from that conversation when and if it happens.
Yes but lex and Piers have the elite level influence and coverage JP doesn’t. Those guys are literally media outlets whilst JP is the local psychologist everybody (the internet) loves
If Ye went to JP he would have got his point across but no one would hear about it. Kanye knows what he’s doing, true genius ♟
Also Kanye’s stature is too elite it would affect his brand and his handlers most likely won’t let him do a localised interview, nothing Ye does is small, everything has to be larger than life then leveraged on steroids and controversy
Jordan Peterson has changed my life for the better and I’ll never be able to show how thankful I am
Kanye never said there’s a conspiracy. He merely pointed out things that have happened to him. The strawman argument is used to make him seem like a bad person. Why would we argue against kanye in this manner rather than deal with the fact that many jews have done horrible things to harm him? Should we examine the fact that there seems to be a pattern? Is it possible that the fact that jews are shielded from all criticism has created a moral hazard wherein jews are able to get away with bad behavior?
Wtf did Jews do to harm him?
Is it “THE JEWS” fault he married a whore and took his kids away from him? Is it the Jews fault he flip flops every month in business? Is it the Jews fault he signed a shitty contract??? Do you not read contracts before you sign them?
Stop being a fan boy and grow up
Look at how shielded the Jews are! Read the lovely comment section.
@@DJEmonTV I think your comments are being deleted. I cant see the full first one. I wonder why...
You said something like "imagine your race being attacked." I dont have to imagine. White people are the most attacked race in the country, perhaps the world.
He might not have said the word conspiracy, but that's most likely why JP said "conspiratorial". Because it is a conspiracy.
And true one, just like the Super Subtle Author theory against Undesigned Coincidences in the NT. YHWH backing you to be more successful than sinners is always the greatest conspiracy to sinners - even more so to their nephilim, just as SSA is true because the author is the Holy Spirit.
Oh my lawd. The interview of the year! Please make this happen.
1:35 "I'm planning to talk to Kanye soon, I think. . . . I'd like to find out what's going on: he's a stunningly creative person. . . . Too much of a treasure to throw in the dust bin.
The fact that Jordan Peterson called Kanye a genius is another example of how devalued that word has become. Every one who is the slightest bit talented or creative is a fucking genius, ha. Comedic genius, musical genius, skate-boarding genius, business genius. Yes, such a meaningless word now.
The College Dropout was a pretty revolutionary album in rap / hip-hop genre when it first came out. Then he did it again with My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy (which is widely considered his greatest album). And he produced these albums by himself.
Thank you.
@@Dsksea He’s good at what he does, that doesn’t make him a genius.
Well, Jews make business together and grow together from centuries, so it is kind of conspiracy. Not blaming them for that but it's a fact worth noticing.
So do the Chinese, so do the French, so do English people, so do arabs, so do Armenians etc etc. Your point?
Where is the conspiracy?
@@DJEmonTV not nearly to the same degree as Jews. Do they all sit around the table and conspire? No, but they definitely have that attitude. (To make business with and share the wealth primarly with other Jews)
@@tomaszzubiak543 my friend, whose conspiring? Stop believing idiots it’s just not true! I’m Jewish myself.
If there are Jewish people who want to do harm to the world, I’ll be the FIRST to condemn them. Just like how real muslims hate ISIS.
@@DJEmonTV Well, I just said that they are not conspiring, at first I said that it's a KIND of conspiracy. But conspiracy is a very inflammatory word so I would probably not use it in this case.
I have nothing against Jews or any other nationality or race, you can find good and bad people everywhere.
My comment was an observation that Jewish traditional culture is quite hermetic in terms of for example marrying and doing business. Do you disagree?
I need this to happen. The world needs this.
"YOU AIN'T GOT THE ANSWERS JORDAN, YOU AIN'T GOT THE ANSWERS" -Ye
This will be a great interview. Actually sitting down and have a conversation instead of just jumping to an extreme. That’s why JP is the goat.
I'm actually gonna buy popcorn this time and label it "Kanye and Jordan" .....😂
As much as I respect Peterson I believe he is not framing the question that Kanye has posed (although haphazardly). Which is: Given that we understand there is some degree of group identity and shared motivation among groups, what are the effects when a particular group has a monopoly over a number of industries, especially when those industries are heavily involved in shaping perception?
Its strange because Peterson usually uses this line of questioning with many other issues, yet with this one he seems intent upon framing it as "they are successful because of high IQ, anyone who says otherwise is jealous.
Its also worth noting that Andrew Schulz made an incredibly questionable hit video on Kanye after his remarks in which he desperately read from his prompter and mocked Kanye having his kids taken away. A few days later he announced that he had been signed by CAA, the talent agency that dropped Kanye for his comments.
That's a fair question but why isn't it raised about other groups and it so happens its always "the jews" that are inquired about in this manner when other ethnic and private social groups have similar niches in different industries.
Where are the conspiracies about irish catholics for example monopolizing certain professions. Surely they have a presence that is overrepresented in some occupation but almost no recorded inquisition about it in the last 100 years (to my knowledge) and certainly less that the recorded pattern of anitsemetic rhetoric since at least the last few centuries.
@@avertingapathy3052 To begin with, many questions are raised about over and under representations of various ethnic groups, often on podcasts such as this one. On top of that, the conclusions drawn are often unfavorable and centered around specificities surrounding those groups and their culture as well as motivations.
The issue of black crime and its association with a high rate of single parent household is often discussed. Issues surrounding Muslim extremism and its proportions within the Muslim community are often discussed as well. Both of these issues for instance have been discussed by Dennis Prager and Sam Harris, both who are Jewish. Yet both have recently denounced the issue in question as being inherently "antisemetic".
@@refromaa7750 Sure unpopular issues are discussed and this is one of them. I'm just merely pointing out that sharing group related motivations in professions and monopolies seems to be something posed square to "the jews" when similar patterns of organization contiue to exist among many groups. Group cohesion and shared heritage has some value but this is almost entirely framed as all jews own the media and no other factors such as roles of class or neoptism is ever brought up in discussions of monopolies.
We are speaking about a wealthy minority within a minority but when it comes to discussion of the issues unified jewish agenda operating irrespective of say class or neoptism within a community is always presumed as the supposed ill.
@@avertingapathy3052 I don't think that is how the discussion is being framed. Again, people do discuss overrepresentation of Asians in various fields as well. The reason why people discuss Jewish representation in these particular fields is because these areas have enormous power in dictating perception and policy. Further, many people do indeed notice narratives which center around particular political, foreign policy, and social issues that are in alignment with what we could call Jewish interests.
I don't actually think its even accurate to frame the accusation of "why doesnt anyone talk about other groups and their representations in various fields", as this particular issue involves a number of influential domains, which have not been dominated by any other group currently and historically. Its probably more accurate to frame the question "do people point out over representation of other groups in areas where a negative impact is observed. As I said before, clearly people do this frequently with regards to Black crime and other areas.
They way Kyrie Irving is being given a public flogging for posting a silly documentary, and the total misrepresentation of what Kanye’s been saying by mainstream media has been the most eye opening part of all this. It’s exactly the kind of tyrannical behavior JP has is always calling out. I don’t think he’s looked into the situation at all- either that or he’s being willfully naive for some strange reason.
This is just another proof of JP value, hopefully he can be a good influence in Kanye's life right now.
Honestly it would be the interview of the year when it comes out, no question about it ! #JPKanye2022
Holy hell, PLEASE make this happen.
i would pay to watch Jordan Peterson and Kanye have a conversation, especially after the recent events
I hope their conversation is private. I'd be happy to hear what either would like to share afterward, but I'm hoping Ye gets real help, not just another moment to be a spectacle.
Ye didn't say anything about "minorities", that sounds like a red herring IMHO. He addressed very specific cases of mistreatment and exploitation of black artists, athletes and actors and he claims to have a lot of evidence and experience regarding those unfortunate events of exploitation. A long discussion between Ye and JBP would be extremely beneficial for everyone.
I love it when I see Schulz get interrupted or spoken over, which is rare.😆
Kanye was right.
Dr. Peterson understands what we all already know who has a head on our shoulders ...Kanye IS FAR FROM CRAZY...Kanye is absolutely a creative Genius. This is coming from someone who doesn't even enjoy the type of music and fashion he creates...but if you do respect and see the visionary pieces that he is influencing the world, not taken from the world, you see he is quite special. Very very special.
One specific minority group that owns a majority of the influence and wealth, not just in America but the whole world, is a pretty fair cause for concern and conspiracy
Did JP just placed Kayne West in genius category? Whether he meant it or not? I want to see this interview. Great PR
He is objectively genius in music industry. Man knows how people listen to music or what kind of music people would be interested in listening at least a half decade before everyone. He revolutionized the industry multiple times. And sold yeezy successfully. You give yeezy to someone else and ask them to sell it, nobody would even consider buying it. Kanye sold yeezies.
It’s not just maths and science……he is a creative person.
It's a fact. And history is littered with contrarian genius. Ye is a man of this time, peel back the layers.
lmfao a simpleton giving the greatest creative mind in human history a title
That nervous Schultz laugh
Fix Kanye for us if you dont mind Dr. Peterson, after all he did make Graduation
I'm sure, I'll be waiting Mr. Jordan P
Peterson values money over truth and integrity that's why he will never go full kanye and address the core of today's issues. He'd rather capitalize on false hope and snake oil
Where do I find the full video?
bro, you have 4 million subs and don't know to look in the video description? 😭😭😭
Dr. Peterson explains it well because normally this is described as a racist trope even when leaning towards the positive. But it’s true. Jews are a tiny percentage of the population - globally - but are very over represented in number of Nobel prizes, discoveries, at universities, in professional areas like medicine, accounting and law; in business, in entertainment, as talented performers, as writers and directors. The list goes on an on and on. You can’t fake all that success. It just is. I don’t understand it but whatever. More power to them. If you, the person who does not like Jews, thinks they are too influential and successful then YOU can buckle down, do the hard work and become successful yourself. Don’t mind them. Worry about yourself.
you are out of focus. it is NOT their success that is being discussed here and perhaps this agenda was set by JP in an attempt to steer the conversation that way BUT it is not the problem. It's WHAT is being done with such a power. Can powerful people become corrupted? If they are, can they be criticized for it? By the same people who are being victimized but this corruption? Those were the real questions eluded here by JP perhaps voluntarily
The Jewish people are especially good in area where there is alot of talking like Law, politics, Business , media. So he‘s not actually wrong with some facts. I hope you‘ll adress that
And physics, mathematics, chemistry…..
And subverting and undermining their hosts.
@@noogate2672 top comment
i just strongly disagree with kanye being a genius
My life’s been leading up to the moment Kanye and JBP talk 🥲
I agree Kanye is too much of a treasure to just be "canceled" & tossed aside... respect to Jordan Peterson for recognizing this👍🏽
Yes!!! I love how Jordan thinks and tries to understand individuals. I was hoping he would talk to Kanye this will be great. Great minds evolving.
I would love for Jordan to talk to Kanye! I promise Jordan is needed he has said some powerful things that have changed my life.
someone please tell Dr.peterson the chance of a convo with Ye THE ARTIST FORMERLY KNOWN AS Kanye would most definitely rise by calling him by his preferred/real/new name REAL TALK
JP is a character in the Matrix. Bought and sold long ago.
When you cannot criticize a certain group that tells you a lot… who runs the world
This interviewer behaves weirdly whenever he's talking to Jordan. It's off and weird
Afraid to be seen?
I hope Ye will help Jordan to come to Jesus and have a meaningful and loving relationship with Jesus. 🙏🏻
I want to take a bit of a jab at what Dr. Peterson said about minorities here, especially when they're rich. I don't condone this belief, but from what I've seen from the anti-semite crowd is less of a complaint that they're rich, and moreso what they do with the disproportionate wealth. It's a very different claim. They don't mind people being rich, as they're typically not left-wing in their economic views, but they often critique what they promote with the companies they own. So in your discussion with Kanye, you need to keep this in mind, since Kanye himself is a wealthy minority, so I highly doubt that his recent remarks are inspired by that.
You’re on to something here. Kanye is basically saying in the entertainment industry you have to tow a political/ideological line with what you say- and it’s largely Jewish execs enforcing this- with the kinds of tactics JP himself calls out. The repercussions for stepping out of line Kanye described sound horrific. He claims because like 80-90% of black entertainers are contracted under Jewish management, they are controlling the black voice.
He also didn’t generalize all Jewish people but is targeting corruption in the entertainment industry; contrary to how it’s being reported. He said when he calls out corrupt individuals he gets ignored, well smeared in the press, but his concerns are ignored- this seems like almost a last resort to get peoples attention and get them to listen. Which seems to have worked.
when, because we are still waiting
Not only does Kanye need to talk to Jordan, Kanye needs to talk to Jordan for a 100 hours as a clinical client.
As do so many.
I enjoyed the Lex and Ye interview immensely. This would also be super interesting.
That would be an interesting interview as Peterson is a psychologist and Kanye struggles with bi-polar. Surely, Peterson picks up on Kanye's struggles and how he would navigate that interview would be interesting.
What is the subtext here? Isn't being intelligent and "successful" more likely to actually conspire over the "less successful"? Is that not possible and we should just dismiss the notion? (Note, I don't know much about the actual facts here, so maybe he's right in this case but still, shouldn't generalize). Then he implies he knows more than Kanye (again, maybe he does) but he will talk to him to straighten him out, after all he's a genius and genius - like ordinary men - have issues. All geniuses are equal but some are more equal than others.
Looking forward to hearing Dr. Peterson interview Kanye. I think that'll be interesting as heck!
Peterson knows the same truth as kanye he's just afraid to express it
Wow, isn't this an amazing moment to be in the same timeline as DR JP and our collective consciousness ? So exciting !
Imagine not thinking successful Jewish people conspire with one another to keep the top of major industries in their community.
Dammit now I have to start a JP and Ye countdown clock. Can't wait.
the last part is a good thing to keep in mind, though i'm not sure i understand Ye's "genius" status he just seems to me like a regular talented person like other talented persons but i don't know enough about him
It will be a long time before the average person realises Ye is a genius.
His background is likely not what you think. Unconstrained creative intelligence is typically a burden to the person, and those around them. The Rap thing was his calling card.
I'm jealous. I want to hang out with Ye and JP.
"You can be sure the young Turks are going to clip that out"
I love how JP continues speaking when the other guys tries to interrupt him
Thank God this is going to happen
Man, Schultz is super annoying. You can tell Peterson is annoyed by him too. Peterson is having a run on podcasts, interviewing narcissists a lot lately. Schultz, Matthew McConaughey, Piers Morgan, and now Kanye to name a few. This must be like a case study for him.
The way he laughs you know he's fake. He also troll Kanye from other video clips I watched.
He's obviously disingenuous, that irritates JP.
Was it just me or was Shultz totally in-congruent with that laugh?
he usually is with his ostensible laughs