Elon Musk - Things Most People Don't Know About China
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- Опубликовано: 14 май 2024
- Elon Musk explains several things most people don't know about China, and talks about potential future conflict with the United States.
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How much potential is there for future conflict/war between with the United States and China?
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America is fat and lazy, people are incredibly overpaid for menial jobs. America's working class will not fight for fat beurocrats. I see this developing into a nuclear problem because U.S. is weak beyond measure. If you can't win fair you cheat. Ive made minimum wage my entire life from age 13-31, I've been working since I was 4 years old on the farm. I've had many jobs and have more skills than anyone I've met. The facade of success that people hide behind disgusts me. People make 100k+/year and have no skills. Hard work is not rewarded, waste and inefficiency is. U.S. is a sewage dump.
It's less "potential" and more a guarantee, barring a miracle.
Many consumer and industrial commodities are ONLY made in China. How can the US go to war with the country we're completely and utterly dependent on?
For boomers and senior citizens, the current market and economy are unnecessarily harder. I'm used to simply purchasing and holding assets, which doesn't seem applicable to the current volatile market, and inflation is catching up with my portfolio. My biggest concern is whether I'll survive after retirement.
Just buy and invest in Gold or other reliable stock , the government has failed us and we cant keep living like this.
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Imagine where the US could be if it didn’t piss away 14 trillion on wars and added debt!
Omg I just think like .. erm was that about race? But specifically were they having a larger thing in mind than just what'd been in the middle east I feel like a loser that I condemned someone as if oil was plentiful maybe the two largest countries wanted it and the US should have let history play out we'd had been better for it.
Tl;Dr it were nothing to do with race but I think the US should've let things be.
America's list of stupid is way longer than that.
The US economy would collapse without war. That money didn't just evaporate.
This is so true we would only be $20 trillion in debt instead of $34 trillion
Donald Rumsfeld took America’s cash and set it all on fire 🔥 😂😂. Because blame him.
And he pocketed plenty for him and his family.
I don't know how he juggles between times to give interviews, read books, tweet, running several large companies, date women and know a little bit about everything enough to have opinions about it. Some may not like him, but he's pretty incredible in terms of time management.
Yes. Trump even more for a 78 y.o. man.
@@pierreschaub1614wtf does this have to do with anything?
@@Showmetheevidence-, mmm… this spirit they have in common. I like both. Right people appreciate free busy minds, guys who put things straight no matter the mainstream.
Those women's are lucky just to have a piece of his time. 🎉
Well, he hasn't slept a wink in the last 25 years. 😂
I recently check the ancient poem of China, came across one of the most famous poet - Li Bai, who was born in AD 701, 1323 yers ago. His poem still very popular in Chinese literature and in high school texbook . His wording still quite easy to understnad even for ordinary Chinese. The culture continuity is amazing. How many US people can read Chinese? How many Chiese can read English? Tells why they never understand China at all.
And most likely he was Caucasian.
@@uncois Li Bai is not white.... LOL
not highschool, mate, primary school. Li Bai's poems are in the textbook of 1st graders in China. that's the beauty of the Chinese language.
@@phillip76
he was from the far western part of China, in or near Xinjiang region...
... their skin color, like today, is more white than East Asian..
@@oskarngo9138
No, from the wikipedia article, his family was originally from Gansu, and he comes from a family of merchants. At that time, trade between China and the west via the Silk road is common.
By the way, everyone knows East Asian is smarter. Nice try.
If you can’t avoid it, you have to prepare for it!
One of life’s lessons
I like that saying, albeit out of the context of a potential conflict between superpowers. Let’s hope we can avoid it!
Of course, you can avoid it by accepting multi-polar world as it becomes, not insisting on uni-polar American controlling.dictating the whole world.
Oh wow so smart 🙄
They are. China is absolutely preparing for it, and has been for decades. On the other hand, here in America we are far more focused on gender identity and diversity. If you were a third party, who would you bet on to win that war? Be honest with yourself, not patriotic, what is your honest answer?
Putin literally said this in his interview with Tucker Carlson - that war was unavoidable so he had to make the first move (regarding Ukraine).
To quote Elon Musk on Putin "I'm nowhere near as rich as Putin"
In the US we have insane social issues like, "how many genders are there?" No chance China will out compete us there 😂
Is Elon aware some believe China will dramatically reduce their population as a result of the one-child policy. If so, will China really have an economy 3x our size?
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The world is thankful. The more internal issues the US has the less of a chance of the US starting another war out of boredom.
China's population is collapsing and manufacturing is leaving. The CCP will use war to remain in power as long as possible. They will attempt to take Taiwan within a decade.
In China, they started to banned beautiful women online and girly looking guys.
Elon Musk made the same comment about "conspicuous acts of kindness" when he first commented about the Hamas attack. If they listened to him then, the world would be a safer place. But the mainstream press accused him of antisemitism and pressured him into taking back his words. It is statements like this that show his true intelligence and empathy. I hope more people will listen to him.
I don’t need a billionaire to tell me that Palestinians ( who are a Semitic people) have a right to exist. This is just having a moral compass.
The German prisoners of war were much better of in French captivity. After the capture of the Remagen Bridge, the US Army hastily erected dozens of Prisoner of War cages around the bridge-head. The camps were simply open fields surrounded by concertina wire. Those at the Rhine Meadows were situated at Remagen, Bad Kreuznach, Andernach, Buderich, Rheinbach and Sinzig. The German prisoners were hopeful of good treatment from the GIs but in this they were sadly disappointed. Herded into the open spaces like cattle, some were beaten and mistreated. No tents or toilets were supplied. The camps became huge latrines, a sea of urine from one end to the other. They had to sleep in holes in the ground which they dug with their bare hands. In the Bad Kreuznach cage, 560,000 men were interned in an area that could only comfortably hold 45,000. Denied enough food and water, they were forced to eat the grass under their feet and the camps soon became a sea of mud. After the concentration camps were discovered, their treatment became worse as the GIs vented their rage on the hapless prisoners. In the five camps around Bretzenheim, prisoners had to survive on 600-850 calories per day. With bloated bellies and teeth falling out, they died by the thousands. During the two and a half months (April-May, 1945) when the camps were under American control, a total of 18,100 prisoners died from malnutrition, disease and exposure. This extremely harsh treatment at the hands of the Americans resulted in the deaths of over 50,000 German prisoners in the Rhine Meadows camps, in the months just before and after the war ended.
@chetsenior7253 what if he said the same thing but had no money ?
The negative speaks louder, more ears hear the brute conversation. Lots of people would prefer to watch a crash, with no interest in the race itself.
He also helped in the Ukranian /Russian conflict (Sat-internet) and also suggested a GOOD solution. Now the outcome for the Ukrainians and the rest of the world is gonna be MUCH worse!
The more I listen to Elon, the more I like him.
Elon has the honesty, integrity and common sence, which attributes are missing from many of our "leaders".. I just hope that we will improve and wake up from our self-delusions, Let all the goodness prevail and make things better for ourselves and to everyone else with mutual love and respect. We can all learn from the mistakes of the past.
@@GeorgeOfZala idd.
Musk has a lot of haters b/c of his massive wealth,
but this interview is an example of why no one should underestimate him.
He is no idiot and his naysayers have always been proven wrong.
I'm no fanboi, but mad respect for his intelligence, drive and accomplishments.
I don't hate him, I just wish people such as him with his big brains, enthusiasm and access to virtually UNlimited resources and ages of wisdom (he's like 2000 yrs old 😏) would consider spending more of their time and efforts on this planet - rather than contributing to its destruction in his efforts to explore space and occupy other planets (HUMANS DON'T DESERVE ANOTHER PLANET!)
Same!
You can't get even a tiny fraction as far as he is without great knowledge about the world's history, economies, govs, powerful ppl & entities etc. He has chosen what he learns about wisely 👌
He didn't get that way, rich by being stupid.
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After what the S.S. did to the Soviets, who would they prefer to surrender to?
The soviets were evil to everyone not just Germans
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@@benjaminr8961 Lol Soviets were evil to Nazis, as every human being in the world should be. There isn't a bigger shame in the world than when a Nazis sees you as an ally. And the Nazis started seeing US as an ally during the final stages of war. The combined army of France and Britain didn't even put up a worthy fight against the Nazis, why? A single fort in USSR resisted the Nazis, longer than the entire country of France. And Nazis repaid this "kindliness"(fellow white supremacism) by not bombing any of their historical squares and buildings in France and other west and some European countries, while the opposite was happening to USSR and East Europe. Luftwaffe bombed everything that it flew over in USSR. During the siege of Leningrad, the famous amber room of Queen Catherine the great was stolen and demolished, the Bolshoi theatre was bombed, many tsarist era palaces have all gone. Soviets went to great efforts to rebuild the amber room, the Bolshoi theatre and many other palaces.
Even today in North America and in west Europe, the ultra right wing nutjobs recite words of Nazi leaders like Joseph Gobbels and even Hitler word for word, and call that protection of values. Did you know that Nazis wanted by Soviet Union for murdering thousands of Jews in concentration camps, became the governing heads of NATO and CIA? I mean, literally the NAZIS wanted for serious war crimes were engulfed back into the "civilized" western family.
I love he mentioned the trains. My God... when I was in Japan and rode the Yamanote line, I almost wept. Chicago's "L" and Metra are just decades behind. It's not just a joke... it's embarrassing.
You will be crying louder if getting chance to ride chinese HS-train
Hi. I haven't been on the Japanese trains. I heard they are very good 👍
Just like to show you a normal typical Chinese train station for comparison :
ruclips.net/video/G0xtfRf16a4/видео.html
1. Trains must remain slow and unflexible for the car industrial complex to thrive in the US.
2. The automobile, as was the horse, is marketed as a truer symbol of freedom and capitalism compared to the socialism an imposing train conveys.
This is simply how the US works
Why, Americans use personal cars.
US never knew trains after the conquest of the west. Carnegie lacked imagination. And all went to the individual car. Pity cause US is the perfect continent for railway.
I trust him much more than our politicians.
Some of them
I absolutely hear you but if you look throughout history this is how a lineage of brutal dictatorships begin.
People fed up with the status quo who are happy to hand over the reigns to a strong yet benevolent leader. Perhaps he is even a good one.
What happens after that is usually chaos. His replacement has all the same powers given to the predecessor but not so much with the benevolence.
Democracy is a rare and beautiful (if imperfect) thing that must always be fought for.
Elon Musk should be the President of America
the difference between this interview and the one with don the lemon is this has substance and d.l. 's was more like tabloid
Elon interviews are so much better when the interviewer comes in already realizing Elon is the smarter man.
funny how Elon mentions the Chinese trains, while in the US they literally choose to give this felon guy money for hyperloop instead of building actual trains thats are proven to work and provides actual value to people. He is so disconnected from reality... or just evil, or both.
Don lemon is a human waste. He’d be long dead in any sort of survival. Elon has brains … or at least can garner interest
China has a long history of survival 😊
But they've had 4 governments in the past 110 years...living memory.
@@lawrenceallen8096 And see where they're now.
@@arminius6506 Yep. in the last 140 years they had a civil war that killed 20,000,000 people. Then a revolution in 1911. A warlord too over for 80 days in the mid 19-teens. Then the Nationalists. Then another civil war with communists that started in 1927. Then were occupied and enslaved by the Japanese from 1937 until the Americans and Brits rescued them in 1945. Then the civil war again 1945-1949. And after the Communists took over in 1949: 1950s: Mayhem and murder, killing off most of their intelligencia (Hundred Flowers Movement), 1960s: The largest famine in human history 45,000,000 starved to death in 3 years ('50-'61). Then another civil war that killed millions called the Cultural Revolution. And in 1978, with a billion people isolated from the world for 30 yrs (as much as any Amazonian lost tribe), on the verge of starvation, Deng Xiaoping opened China and implemented market reforms. Followed by dead space for about 14 years until the early 1990s when China began to hockey-stick with economic development. And it became the 2nd largest economy around 2005. Now, they have 500+ plus debt to GDP and manufacturing companies are moving to other locations because of high labor costs and policies unfavorable to foreign investors. Now, you can go back thousands of years and see that China's cycle is this: Chaos, Bloody War, New Totalitarian Government wins, Stability, Prosperity, Corruption, Collapse, Chaos. China has been doing that for 5,000 years. So why do you think that will stop now? Because they make TVs?
And midland existence.
So is that how re writing The Bible, 21st Century concentration camps, summary executions , 24/7 keeping credit scores by constantly peeping on their own people , having no a culture respectful of the people human rights in a socialist regime of ''happy slaves'' or else... IS now called ''a long history of survival''?. Uhm...Quite a warped and crooked take on reality many would call that instead.
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After a 2 week visit, China is way more advanced than we are led to believe, clean tidy, things work well.
You need to go there to understand it..
Having also visited China, I agree with you completely. Of course, I did also visit Zhuhai, a tourist megacity in Guangdong. Still, it left me with the impression that the US is very behind and Asia is a booming and quite modern powerhouse.
Where did you go? It's a vast country I bet you don't see a lot of places. People only see the surface and only the places they want to see.
@@zcy9296 then show us the backward side of china
In the main cities yes but not outside so much. People also forget just how poor China is on the ground outside the big metropolitan areas. I visited China countless times being based in HK but like HK the infrastructure puts the West to shame, however it's not a particularly nice place to live.. Depressing almost. Unfortunately the West is going down the same mass surveillance dystopian future but with crumbling infrastructure.
Simply put, if you take the regular trains, not the high speed trains, you will see a different China. @@rudyalfonsus686
It is not beyond suspicion that some people are required to be extremely diplomatic when speaking of world events and conditions regardless of reality.
Can't expect it to be the truth when they won't speak freely on a topic to the public. Very dark realities not spoken here, which I get lex asking for the positives. But the positives aren't positives for the US are they? Because much of Chinese positive growth also involves taking the legs out of US. The US economy is flatlining with help from Chinese internal influence. Am I wrong?
I think the US population should be made fully aware of what's happening, and truth needs to be spoken as accurately as possible, diplomatic or not.
I would like to sit down and discuss further his take on China and Taiwan .... off camera !
Nothing really needs to be talked about. The reality is known. How to respond is the tricky part because people don't react positively they usually choose judgment, which is counterproductive. The "controllers" in China are predictable while being unpredictable.
You are experiencing cognitive dissonance. You hear information that does not fit your world view. Instead of being open to new information, you immediately discredit that information. Call the source a bot, 50 cent, or under coercion. This way, you can keep your bias without accepting logically sound new information.
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A better discussion about better subject matter then i have seen in too long.
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@@morbino1 You seam to be a very intelligent and know more about me I want to give you the honor of having me on signal so we can talk more is that ok by you ?
@@morbino1 You seam to be a very intelligent and know more about me I want to give you the honor of having me on signal or telegram so we can talk more is that ok by you ?
"Discussion" LOL
I cannot stress enough the fact that Musk is a brilliant man. His observations on Ancient Greece, China, the US, and the World Wars are insightful and astute. And these are coming from a man who studies history in the minuscule amount of free time he has. It’s amazing.
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He is indeed overestimated, but he is able to receive information that ordinary people cannot access within a limited time and make favorable judgments
China - USA is closer to a global economic handover like the British Empire - USA one in the late 1800’s, than Sparta - Athens. The decay and declines of the British Empire happened in a slow fragmented way over decades and even after the initial handover, it continued to present day. USA is similar, the decay started some time ago, the Chinese have probably artificially stayed in “second” place until its ready to sustain any kind of fight back from USA. That moment seems to be approaching and will certainly happen in the next decade. I don’t think USA - China handover will coincide with a war. Proxy wars will be faught in Ukraine and possibly Middle East, but not on Chinese or American soil.
@@garthvanderhorst7092The fall of the British Empire is heavily down to global socio political advances.
The abolishment of slavery and it's spread across the world (it's a good thing) for one.
With the growth and standing of each territory improving and a population driving for independence. A lot of what had been established simply couldn't continue without severe unrest and conflict.. (which would have been heavily judged the world over and affected the economical potential)
A world economy pretty much doesn't allow countries within its friend base to occupy others beyond small island nations that have no clout of numbers or global significance.
With luck the economical dependence on each other makes actual war on any large scale less and less appealing for each nation with "power"
It'd be interesting to hear Elon Musk and Peter Zeihan talk together for an hour about China and the world's economy/resources
That would be a fascinating talk. Zeihan does put some contradicting information out there, like on the one hand he talks about the population collapse, on the other hand he talks about massive unemployment. Economically they cannot both be limiting factors.
I totally agree. Peter makes it sound like china has no chance competing with the US and then other ppl will say the opposite.
@@ronaldbruce6480Peter is a die hard antiChina nut case
@@ronaldbruce6480 Ah, Zeihan, the expert who revealed that China has no ability to develop anything more sophisticated than simple IOT devices.
It won’t happen. Zeihan hates musk. He’s called him a racist South African apartheid sympathiser. It’s not true at all.
What a cool man. Intellectual bravery and honesty in spades. Salut, Elon.
Lol, so this Russian host who has kowtowed to America told Musk to limit his observations to "positive" things about China, as if the Chinese would care, at all, about the negative "free world" propaganda over hUmaN RiGhts, propaganda so cheap and disingenuous that it's had no effect for the last 30 years. And isn't that the whole reason for the New Cold War? Once America gave up its futile attempt to effect a regime change through propaganda, America decided to materially damage the Chinese economy in order to remain tOp daWg. After all, if China can rise in spite of America's "freedom" lectures, then America will never again be able to wage another war, economic or otherwise, over America's very fake appeal to "freedom".
Bravery??? WTF😮
@@Youevilpeoplewillpay In the "free world", it takes balls of steel to speak "positively" about China. That should tell you something about which country is actually censor-crazed. It should also tell you which country is actually Communist, as America's Yellen just went to China to lecture China, except she went so far that she slapped the crap out of America's own dictate of comparative advantage. At this rate, God himself will help China win the New Cold War against America. The world shall be free at last from the Eww Es A
He's more of an arrogant jerk imo.
People who hate him are seeking some external validation and/or vilification to take the light off their real problems. IMHO
Great talk - as always🙏.
Interesting to hear Mr Musk’s view on free speech in China, spiritual and non competitive arts of the Chinese civilization (Qi Gong) and the benefits of holistic healing methods such as acupuncture with a view to depoliticizing and restoring US -China relations for global peace 🇱🇰🙏🧘♀️
The book Musk refers to is actually entitled 'Destined for War.' I read the book and noticed that the cover review blurbs kept mentioning The Thucydides Trap as if it were the title of the book. I think what happened is that the original title was changed prior to publication (for the obvious reason that it is difficult to pronounce) and that the reviewers had received pre-pub copies that were under the original title. The implication I draw from this is that Musk was on the list of pre-pub reviewers.
I respect him so much!!! very objective and extremely intelligent man!!! ❤️❤️
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His only objective is to create a world that he runs. Pass.
@@chetsenior7253why not if he has such unique power and intelligence
This was taken from the Lex Freidman podcast without any reference or credit.
The guy in the suit , ......is Lex Friedman, lest your eyes betrayed you.
@@philipclift7205... Which the channel did not reference or credit.
@@HorusHerotic youtube has the technology to pay lex the ad revenue when other people upload his content
@@daytonaflowseriously?
@@HorusHerotic there's 2 people sitting there. And only 1 owns the content? Elon hasn't sold himself to lex.
I think the real question is what will big money do in order to profit the most.
US only went to Europe for long time holding, control, and seiz as much resources and money, not because of kindness!!!
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Will you please post a link to the full video with Lex Fridman
Where is the link to the original video?
Yeah right, tell us how the Americans would have reacted if they had been the ones attacked by Germany and treated civilian Americans like the Russians were treated. Then tell us about the civilian deaths in Iraq, Libya, Viëtnam, Syria etc.
Yeah, tell us about Guantanamo Elon. I bet those PoWs were/are delighted to be looked after by the kindly US.
Our goodness certainly diminished after WW2.
@@joeingle1745right right.. so because the US did something wrong, they never did anything right.
And Guantanamo was nothing compared to what the Japanese did to their prisoners.
Knowing American history from the last 20 years is good, but knowing world history going a little further back is better.
I dont think the germans would of treated us like the russians. Not even in ww2 did our pows get treated as bad by the germans as they did with the russians. They dont have a historic hatred of us like the russians or as bad as the japanese did to us.
Sniveling
The US is such a benevolent force. They've made the middle east a heaven!
It was a shit box of sand and blood long before the USA was even created, and it will be long after the USA no longer exists as a nation. There is no peace to be had in that desert.
Syria is a virtual paradise. Nothing to do with US.
And China normalize all bad things as if it is normal. Like they are doing with North Korea and support Taliban, Hamas.
As bad as they are at times, can you imagine any other country in the world replacing the US?
Russia? No thanks. China? Definitely no thanks!
The world is lucky that the US is as powerful as it is and is democratic
Yes they have...spear headed the Abraham accords, Hamas/Iran desperately trying to undermine it ... Liberated South Korea- now one of the wealthiest countries in the world.. attempted to do the same for Vietnam, commies won, and are still dirt poor today. Supported and backs the only democracy in the middle east...kept the Soviets at bay until they fell ... Kept China at bay for the most part, from taking Taiwan...given to foreign aid lightyears ahead of any other country in history...
Then there's you, the moral arbiter making even more impact from your keypad....you will be remembered, for sure 🥳
what's the book he mentions at the beginning??
Link to original talk please…?
There was a war between the British Empire and the US, but it was small compared to WWII. Something to remember at least.
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US has been in war with another country in every single year of the last century and in this century. US is not inquisitive? 😂😂
He meant not for the purposes of taking land.
@@wowcnmovie are there even any reasons to take land? Japan's entire political story gets written by the US. Any honest African leader that refused to sell his country's natural resources in an unfair trade value was killed by the US, and then a US puppet leader would be put in his place. By the time of mid 20th century, US didn't have to physically take over lands. It just wasn't logical. The warfare have changed by that time.
And also, Elon Musk clearly covers up the fact that US was openly said that they have plans to nuke North Korea. But since the Soviets also had nukes by that time, the plan was dropped. The only thing that prevented US from nuking DPRK was the Soviet possession of Nukes. How is this not inquisitive?
*acquisitive... meaning to acquire, as in take over a country as in ownership / direct colonization . The U.S. has however fought many proxy wars to put their preferred leader in a foreign office and affect world events that way.
Woodrow Wilson a Democratic entered World War l. FDR a Democrat entered World War II. Harry Truman a Democrat started the Korean War. JFK a Democratic started the Vietnam War. LBJ a Democrat continued the Vietnam War. Jimmy Carter a Democrat started a conflict with Iran. Joe Biden a Democrat supports the Ukraine War. Joe Biden a Democrat supports Hamas in the Middle East War. Does anyone here see a pattern developing?
@@wowcnmovie you can steal resourc through corporation and manipulation of lies by secret intelligence
Thx.. why the vid was abruptly stopped..? 🤔
I appreciate the conversation / enlightenment 🙄
Would humanity have reached the moon if not for that bike ride?
Would we have reach Mars without this podcast?
@@pokies100 lol...
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@@stephentrueman4843 Hello.
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Or maybe millions would not have died from the rockets the scientists developed because of that bike
See North American socialism coming and couldn't avoid it...
In the absolute mechanism of first principles, quantization chemistry is based on Primes and cofactor harmonics, ask Galileo, and togetherness or not is an internal integration or split integration, as can be seen in biological evolution of replicating data in cells. Complex life divides and reintegration continually in pulse-evolution differentiates of relative-timing thermodynamical real-time superposition.
Total annihilation is possible physically, but never in self-defining modulation cause-effect mechanism, Principle.
When I activated subtitles for this video,
the print was faint and tiny.
WHY ?
Who controls the subtitles?
Why are they so much worse on this video ???
Interesting , Thank You .
Glad you enjoyed it
@@Liberty-Vault mention the Lex Friedman podcast next time
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I beg to differ, usa not inquisitive? why don't they close all their military bases in other people countries? And ur darn right, people don't forget...
That’s different. Some countries pay us for their security or we work deals with them where can build a military base there. We didn’t conquer them
I think he said “acquisitive”.
@@ronaldbruce6480 yeah us isnt fascist globalist power
A lot of diplomacy in the video. US has been very clever throu history
Because NATO is a school yard bully. Bullies don't let their victims out of their eye sight 🤦♀️
1:50. Sparta wasn't leader of greece at all.
They became a unifying force against The Athenians, who did keep growing in power due to the imperialistic nature of their state.
Only one who saw Spartans as leader of Greece were the oligarchs and aristocrats (who admired Spartans elites for their grip on power and control of lower classes). Which is fitting for Elon, for sure, who now admires how subservient common Chinese, while ofc China is Sparta in this analogy, while US is athens.
Which is really good, since that means that war is not inevitable.
Having visited China 3 times for stays from 15 to 23 days, I must agree that the Chinese ambition and drive is unmatched in North America. I seen it first hand in factories from the Pearl delta to Shanghai and inland. They are not just working for this moment but also have the future generations progress in their sights.
That said I am hearing about this undercurrent by a new generation that wants to do away with old values around work and persue leisure.
Does that sound familiar?
Does Elon Musk know about Monroe doctrine and how USA dealt with Latin America. Does he know about neocolonialism as opposed to colonialism, the later more cumbersome with administrative responsibilities while former gets the benefit of facilitated businesses without administrative responsibilities.
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Musk is an effin arrogant idiot.
The worse kind of idiot.
Outsider looking in:
Advancement stresses humanity.
Maintain and sustain is all that’s needed for humanity to succeed.
Greed is the catalyst.
Napkin note:
advancement helps humanity
@@zoro2Real it’s like a Hollywood drama with the weapon advancement.
It's not greed it's need
@@TechnoMinarchistBall war weapons are greed incentives
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thanks this is very interesting. as always. Nice you have the Prince Model-C there by Auerswald... ;-)
I had to make mine
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I have been to China. He is not wrong.
Not acquisitive and benevolent force. What are 800+ oversea military bases for? 😅
Stopping the advancement of Russia. Why do other nations allow those bases in their lands? THEY WANT THEM THERE FOR PROTECTION.
For maintaining peace and stability, and for opposing terrorists and rogue nations
Musk is wrong. China and the United States are absolutely different. The United States was also an invader and colonizer. During China's Qing Dynasty, the United States invaded China for the first time in 1844, and at least six more times thereafter. The United States did help many countries, including China, in World War II. We Chinese have never forgotten the American pilots who came to assist us. However, the United States also helped rebuild many countries because of its own interests. For example, in East Asia, the United States needs China to contain most of Japan's military forces. To rebuild Japan, the United States needs Japan as an ally in East Asia while keeping an eye on the Soviet Union.
Most things he say is wrong.
Why wouldnt' the U.S.A. do some things because of its own interests? What nation doesn't? One would call them crazy if they didn't.
There's always a self benefit in acts of kindness. Do not diminish America's acts of kindness, which outweigh all other countries, including China. 1945, we could have taken over the world with nuclear weapons. We follow the examples of humble men like Jesus, Washington, and Lincoln. China IS trying to damage America as I write this. Musk has major economic interest in China.
Yes the only thing we can expect a nation to be responsible for is to take care of the wellbeing of its own citizens. Now whether they do that by attacking others or rebuilding others is what decides if they are good or bad for the rest of the world.
Regarding your point on the PRC and Japan, it is the other way around. The Philippines and much of Southeast Asia are having an awful time with the PRC not respecting boundaries and boarders at sea, to say nothing of its probably illegal island reclamation projects.
Captivating discussion. Thanks
On intelligence and conciousness: why can it all simply be switched off with a bit of anesthetic?
I think concious intelligence simply amounts to connecting short-term working memory to long-term memory storage in a sensible manner. The "how to walk on two legs" to the textbook history of bipedalism.
i stay in China and i stay in Shanghai, I can tell you in terms of development, USA is really lagging behind. and the amazing thing is that, the development is uniform everywhere you go. I think if the US were a bit humble, they could learn a thing or 10
I agree but also note that China is over spending significantly on its infrastructure now because they know that they will be in a bad spot in a decade or so. But at least they are spending their money within the country and not others! I guess what I am saying is that there has to be a Happy median there somewhere between what they do and what we don't do!
The difference is that in China, the government can step in and say "we're doing this, that's the end of it." I lived in Hangzhou for almost two years, and the speed with which buildings would disappear and be replaced was incredible, but it's because the people living or working there had no say. In the U.S., we have a federalist democratic bureaucracy with private property rights. This makes such a thing impossible, which is good in way. We also do environmental impact assessments, and value the health of our construction workers. Unfortunately, that means construction goes much slower and sometimes even gets stalled entirely. Construction workers in China have it rough, and there's no protection for the citizens against air pollution and other health effects either. When there was construction going on near me, all the dust would just be right in the street, which was a major walking street with homes. I only had to walk through it, but I don't know how the people who lived or worked there managed. Finally, the quality of their construction is much lower than in the U.S., and sometimes even unsafe. Elevators and escalators break, as do floors, resulting in deaths. Buildings even collapse quite frequently.
The one thing I will say is the rail system is fucking awesome. Safe, clean, and fast. Both the subway and intercity trains.
Keep in mind, some of the impressive things, like many things in/from China, have a focus on the appearance of this, not necessarily that it is being done well. What do I mean by this?
For example, my friend in China and I are both engineers and discuss silly things like infrastructure and share notes, so to speak. He sends me video where, for example, his city is incredibly impressive... Until it rains. They put all this concrete everywhere with zero regard for drainage. Drainage is something you can't see. Structural integrity or quality is something that doesn't show up on the cover of magazines or on Instagram. If the city floods when it really didn't need to with some forethought, or if something breaks prematurely, external factors ("acts of god" as it were) can be blamed. If something collapses, just build it again.
Not saying their way is worse, by the way. It's just something to consider. As the great Thomas Sowell says, there are no solutions, only tradeoffs.
Lots Chinese live in horrible poverty and the majority is not well off. Once you go outside of the tier 1 cities, it's an absolute mess. And it's getting worse.
That's just fine. The US can remain in the dark ages. Communism kills millions of people and technology will do the same. Technology is evi,it gives evil people to much power.
Elon musk, the savior of humanity. Thanks for a good time. ♾️
saw a documentary on the Spartans had Gerard butler in it and great footage
When Elon says things such as "we blah blah blah" don't you stop to wonder for a second who he is refiring to? He is in a class all his own
Truly. There wasn't a bus short enough to take him, so he was home schooled.
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"They saw it coming but still couldn't avoid it." This assumes they wanted to avoid it. War has been good for the US, or at least our mythology would like us to believe.
You made yourself a nation from a fully surplus economy to a deficit ridden struggling superpower, and here you are talking about "war has been good", war is only good if you can get more than what youv put in, have you managed to at least do that?
No.
How is war good?
@chriscain7333 war has been good for the elites and the MIC and def contractors, and that's all matters.
@@agamliandy7843 well the military industrial complex has always been there, doing the same thing from day one, with all honesty imho they are not the major problem in terms of the US as a nation, e.g the marshall plan, was extremely successful and the US benefited heavily upon, one could even argue marshalls plan solidified the very foundation of the superpower.
@chriscain7333 The difference is when those people with interests use war as a way to siphon and distribute wealth among themselves. Trillions dollars of taxpayers' money for endless wars fighting "boogeyman"
Washington being called washing town for a reason.
@@chriscain7333 Yea, good point. After saving the fairly worthless continent from being obliterated, then the US became the main reason that it was rebuilt. Should have just left that burned out wasteland as it was. If they are not intelligent to stop creating world wars then they are not worth the effort required to keep around.
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Elton pleasantly suprises me with every new interview,he knows history and geopolitical turmoil.And that laugh of his...unique.
Conspicuous acts of kindness only apply after you've defeated a despotic enemy. To act otherwise is called appeasement which also has a track record of outcomes.
That sounds like he used the term correctly.
Appeasement is solely for losers. Any time someone advances against you and you appease them they will be happy until they decide they want more. (it is really very simple)
Makes one wonder if any other of our ancestors had written about their battles but those texts were lost in the burning of the library of Alexandria
I wish they had learned from the harshness of Versailles but in reality they actually did not. Austria, a German nation, was again separated from Germany via outside force, Germany was forced to disarm, had to pay all reparations, etc. in addition to a massive stripping of territory and a forced migration of something like 30+ million polish and German people as the Soviets redrew all the borders of Central Europe. Germany had virtually no official military force until the 50s and Japan is still a “disarmed” nation. US/UN then dismantled the empires and use European drawn magic borders to make the nations in much the same way borders were drawn post ww1, only even more ignorantly. No one learned their lesson. They went even harder and were spared the consequences because of the Cold War
Elon Musk is a brilliant man whom I have massive respect!
Loved the interview!
Well done!
it is relaxing to listen to elon
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Beautiful Mind! ❤️👌🏼
Thank you for this interview! Mr Musk’s wisdom and knowledge about the Chinese history and culture is commendable! He has my respect!
Appreciate conversation
Every Elon interview needs to be subtitled- every one
Yes, I agree.
I could understand him perfectly well.
Just listen more carefully
Try listening to different accents more
It's better to be a warrior in a garden than a gardener in a war.
Excellent Elan. Great leading bridges 🙌🏽👏🏻🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽❤️
Lots of China trolls posting here. Good job guys! You flooded it like everything else.
America is not benevolent, this is only strategy.
US helped building other countries due to USSR, Musk is a juvenile, he thinks in terms of good and bad, but reality is not good and bad, it's lots of calculation--US treats other countries badly.
And neither is any other country on the planet. People who think there is a moral equivalency between the US and the CCP should not be allowed to vote. Absolute children.
*Americans* are generally benevolent. The criminals who've been running this country for decades are the ones who just want to *look* nice.
Anyone who thinks China isn't expansionist knows very little about china.
Where did China expand?
那你是真的无知
@@pengzhang5081 中国确实是扩张主义,周、秦、汉、唐、明,乃至于满清前期,都在进行对外扩张,并且将所有适合农耕的土地都占领了下来,受制于古代交通和通信的限制,中央帝国的边界是有极限的,叫帝国极壁,新中国前70年可以说是在卧薪尝胆,从2020年起,新的对外扩张又开始了,不是占领土地,而是占领市场,一带一路就是标志
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Tibet, The Spratlys, border battles with India. It will be interesting if they look to recapture Manchuria (Vladivostok).
Phenomenal. If there is hope for mankind, it is in open dialogue such us this. God bless all fellow travellers 🤗🤗
Great Great interview! So much valuable knowledge.
Some say the American civil war was a matter of economics. But when I propose that as a possibility to my friends they don’t want to hear it, they assert it was only to release the slaves.
He who wins the war, writes the history books
Let's just say MS was the richest state before the Civil War and now it's one of the poorest. Cotton was king indeed. All about money and power.
Ahh it was both but slavery was used as the justification for the real reason, it was unfortunate that ended up being the solution.
The Civil War was about the Morrill tariff. Lincoln as soon as he had treasury issued greenbacks could have rebated the South. Acts of kindness rather than punitive. The north wanted to industrialize and the south didn't want to be taxed.
Didn’t want to pay the going labor rates
War and talk of war is unthinkable
The problem is power divides, inspiration multiplies.
“The great enemy of communication is the illusion of it.”
China for peace and prosperity.
lol are you literally insane?
Tell that to Dalai Lama, Philippines, Japan, Mongolia, India, Vietnam ….. pretty much any country close to China.
No, thanks. I had 45 years of communism already. That was enough, I don't need more.
The number of business people who pursue profit over principle is scary for someone who believes democracy should be preferred over dictatorship. Isn't a more important question than who has the best trains is which form of government best serves the people?
we have the Constitution and the Bill of Rights to protect citizens from the government
Is the Supreme Court decision in Citizen United vs FEC part of that democracy you are talking about?
Pure Democracy is one of the worst forms of government that exists.
Do You think the US government serves its people better than the Chinese govt?
The Berlin airlift was originally a UK idea.
The US has done plenty of good things that few other nations would ever think to do. The US was one of the few nations that would send troops to defend another nation, think South Korea during the Korean War.
The last point from Elon about the US helping rebuild instead of blasting away their foes into oblivion is in line with Veratasium’s video about game theory.
TLDR of the Vertasium video is that it is best to be Forgiving, be Kind and not be a push-over. This was tested with computer simulations and competitions.
Tibet needs a mention
After seeing the history of Ukraine, Syria and the Indians, Tibetans don't need your hypocritical European help. Tibetans need business, modernization and roads, just like China is doing now.
Tibet was part of China before the us even existed
So does hawaii, Samoa, Puerto Rico, guam…
西藏和你有关系吗?
你给西藏每个人发1000万美元 就和你有关
可惜了 你没有
In China on the issues of Taiwan and Tibet there is no discussion, no controversy, no two opinions; they are part of China and must be maintained as part of China militarily. Literally no one at all thinks differently.
The history of the war between Sparta and Athens as presented in Graham Allison's book is not correct. See Prof Jonathan Kirshner criticism of Allison.
This reminds me the quote from the trailer for the upcoming season 4 of the Boys, "Democracy fails because people stupid.... People will fight one another you just need to nudge them a little bit, and than sweep in to save the situation like Ceasar" I kinda feel that someone is doing the same with the US-Chinese relationship.
Democracy fails because it isn't a constitutional Republic
LETS WORĶ FOR THE BETTERMENT OF ALL , THAT'S THE ONLY WAY TO A BRIGHTER FUTURE. ! ✌️
Just because your good at making money doesn’t necessarily mean your smart
Do you even know what you are talking about.
Elon got 180 IQ. How much do you got?
I agree with you. However, he was talking about a country and its culture and people that he knows from his own experience, not from watching CNN, MSNBC or BBC.
Just because you have access to the comment section doesn't necessarily mean you're thoughtful.
Your'e...clearly...you are not smart nor can make money.
The worst thing about it, was the US literally enabled the Chinese to do all they have.
Exstrapolate to today , I hope my first word is useful. From Australia s point of view,how do we proceed? We are effectively a satrap state of the USA, from an agricultural background we sell most of our grown in Australia produce overseas. We have allowed our exports , iron ore, black coal , gas, grain,beef and sheep to be price takers. More or less any way. It appears to me that we still need the USA to keep their arm around our shoulders. Because they have been historically benign.
Great interview and interviewer.
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The UK took over countries with might, the USA learned you didn't need to do that and could take over a country with economics. China is doing exactly that - see Belt/Road Initiative (BRI). So, they're ALREADY taking over the world by hoovering up countries in Africa, and elsewhere - investing in projects across Europe too. It seems to me, The West is complicit in the rise of China, the UK for example is a subscriber to the BRI project. So when we talk about "doing something about it". Yes, we could, we could cut them off economically, but the greed machine of corporate investors will not accept any loss in their bottom line - thus capitalistic forces prevent China being stopped. China is our fault - or at least our leaders, both business and political.
Hear hear
So how is it wrong that they are being successful business wise?
@@donn.4766 - I never said it was wrong, but it is "bad" from the perspective of people who live in The West, because our quality of life will diminish.
@@youtoob1811 so you dont want to see anyone else in the world thrive and be successful?
There is enough resources, food and energy for everyone to be comfortable. Others being successful shouldnt hinder your life. Its the leaders and people in power that keep others down.
You are an imperialist yourself.
I love this approach to history from a man whose knowledge of history is overwhelming, and related in a simple way that is entertaining as well as enlightening in a superficial sense.
I want to know everyone's pronunciation for today. It's simply that important we know each other's pronauce, isn't it
Elon should try be a Us's POW in Abu Gharib and Gizmo, that wil be Wow...
We even treated people very well at Gizmo. Now Liz Cheney is a democrat so if you didn't like Gizmo then don't vote for Biden.
@@donaldhenderson1870 Which president created Gitmo?
@@donaldhenderson1870 RE: "We even treated people very well at Gizmo."
You are a very good LIAR. Extraordinary.
You create your reality. You deserve the reality you create.
You chose to be here on this planet at this precise time. No
blame. You don’t have to be captive of fear. Right, integrated, disciplined, integrity
is required because you and the
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every interview he does is worth a cateful listen at least once
If only more people were encouraged to sit and have in depth conversations.