Magura HS33 Set Up : Everything You Ever Needed To Know
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- Опубликовано: 12 сен 2024
- Brakes are one of the most important part of a trials bike, without good brakes it becomes very difficult to perform most techniques needed and is also very dangerous, often our lives depend on our brakes!
One of the most popular brakes for trials riding is the Magura HS33, it's a hydraulic rim brake which has had a few changes over the years but one of the more popular versions was the 2005-2011 model (before they used the carbotecture material) but most of the advice given in this video will translate onto other years.
It's a long video but Adam gave such great advice I decided to keep pretty much all of it in, we talk about cutting hose, fitting barbs, bleeding, clamp setup and hints and tips on how to get the 2005 lever running sweet.
Big thanks for Adam for his time, please head to www.tartybikes.co.uk for anything trials related or to get the best advice.
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Dude, you‘re a lifesaver. I followed the official Magura bleed instructions and had ZERO stopping power. System was full, no bubbles. But your trick with attaching a syringe to the master cylinder and pushing out all the air (was a shitload of air inside) was the thing that saved the day. I don’t understand why they didn’t include that in the official video. Cheers!
Gotta love the "you don't need to replace it, just do this little thing and it's sorted" -mentality. A nice lesson actually.
This series is a great insight into professional bike building/maintenance, and Tartybike are just the best, so much experience!
Spent an evening with my mate setting up my brakes after both of us watched your video. I'm back riding trials after ten years or so and never thought maguras could feel this good. Once again Tarty bikes and Co have provided a video that explains everything you need to know and more about hs33. With years of combined experience no one could help better.
Thanks guys for providing the best in bike trials knowledge and support.
Just bought my first trials bike with Hydrolic brakes. Onza T-pro and the brakes need a service, so this is perfect! Thanks Ali, once again you've saved the day!
Can't believe those newer versions of the HS33s came out so long ago now. I remember the version before with the adjuster that broke even easier but could be replaced by just screwing a bolt in there. Loving these videos, so much nostalgia.
Watching in 2021 I used to have hs33, the knowledge and tricks he shows is a pleasure to watch. Id like to see the same in depth video for the MT7's, how to change the levers, cable etc.
Great video Ali! For someone who bought an old trials bike last year (me), this is pure gold!
what did you get
-a trials bike-
@@winterwatson6437 4 years later...
But I bought a Crescent Iloins!
Wow, Adam is real trials wisdom well. Really good episode! I love maintenance clips! Thank you!
Thanks Ali and Adam. For me, seeing something done is so much easier than trying to follow a manual. It's given me the enough confidence to order a Magura HS33 from TartyBukes and set them up myself.
That’s one of the most informative videos I’ve seen. Well done
Does the shop have a YT channel or a FB page? I'd love to follow them, the knowledge and experience is just too good and useful for one to keep to themselves. Aspiring home mechanics need more access to this kind of stuff!
their experience is priceless.
things are slowly being sorted out.. for a long moment YT was overtaken by all kinds of dudes w/ very little insight into what they are doing just fighting for views/revenue.
*my all time fav example was this guy on top of the search on 'how to replace a motorcycle tire'. lots of subscribers, nice garage, nice cameras, etc.... at one point he says that was his first attempt to changing a tire, ever. damaged the rim aesthetically, damaged the tire to the point that it needed to be replaced but the 'how to' video brought in viewers, so... :}
Ali - That is truly everything you ever need to know about Magua HS33 Set Up! Wow - lots of info. Now it makes sense why you had to break the TartyBikes adventure day into multiple videos. I would not be surprised if Tarty wanted to add this to their tutorial videos. Very good.
I just got a used bike here in Texas, and was pleasantly surprised to hear that the Jitsie wheels were built in the Tarty Bikes shop! It also has one of their chainstay protectors, so I can advertise a little bit. Great video, Ali and Tarty Bikes! Now I want to go tackle my sticky HS33's!
Great video - This really showcases the breadth of knowledge you and Tartybikes has in trials. Did not even know about the water bodge!
Nice refresher. Forgot all these tricks. Thanks for a great video
New viewer here.. Really loving these shop videos!I'm not familiar with this type of rim break, it's great to learn and see something new.. also fantastic to see a pro at work. All sorts of great tips and tricks. Thanks for taking us along!
An awesome video. Tarty Bikes could easily do an entire series on trials bike tech and it would be invaluable.
I'm really into the bike setup videos. Gives you some tips from the best. I'd also like it with some of the newer brake models and disc brakes on the inspireds
Thanks for the video, I learned a lot. I think those aluminium brake clamps with the slots are your backward slipping issue. Those slots will flex, plus the bolts are very small. I would have a machinist make custom clamps for that particular setup out of steel or ti, with holes rather than slots. You will have to measure for the hole placement. Or you could cut down a washer to fill the slot, with the hole in the right place. This would spread the load from the bolt head. Larger bolts would help too.
Best Maggie setup video I've ever seen, thanks Ali!
The spoke trick for plugging in the barb will be useful to me soon, as I am about to shorten a hydraulic hose on a Magura brake. Thanks!
they sell liquid rosin soldering flux, biodegradable + non-clean (so it's not active/corrosive at room temp). the one w/ the brush applicator is more viscous than the 'drip bottle'.. it's super easy/fast to apply and it's quite sticky after it dries out; it's basically "violin rosin" w/ some solvent carrier that evaporates.
it used to work ok in wet conditions with old school chrome rims on city bikes. those bikes would practically lose ALL braking power w/ the first drop of rain, so i imagine some ground up rims would get glued to the pads.. the flux itself is not messy and it smells fabulous but it definitely attracts all kinds of dust.
Thanks a lot for the thorough guide on Magura HS33's. Could you tell which kind of fluid you're using for bleeding?
Ali, could you do a video on all of the different types of Magura brake pads ? Back in the day I only used the soft Magura pads but it seems there are custom pads nowadays. Again back in the day I remember trying the brake on my mates Megamo which had Monty pads which felt really sticky. Why don't they make pads longer than the custom metal-backed pads and How' do you make these custom pads. Many thanks
Thats the Video i was looking for, thank you!
If not V-brake I'd recommend you to replace this 2-finger lever to Trialtech Sport. For me it's better/stronger than the 4-finger Magura lever.
Is this not some years late for this brake? No it isn't to late! Love these Tricks he is using! Thank you for that Video =)
The newer Version of HS has about the same thing but you only need one screw to loosen and turn the Plastik lever to get it in or out. Then fasten the screw and done =)
But alway nice to see somebody with real technique working.
Great video Ali, absolutely no use to me, don't do anything Trials, but I'm sure it'll be super useful to all those who do ride Trials, especially those new, on a budget buying used stuff that needs a bit of TLC.
Thanks! These how to videos are so helpful!
A hydrostop master class. Thanks masses for that. Going to try fluorinert-174 as a fluid.
Some helpful tips!
I may give Magura rim brake an other go on the back, but will try with other levers so can have 2 levers the same shape!
Awesome video! Thanks for the upload! Much appreciated!
Duuuude! What a gem this video is!
Isn't this a re-upload that applauds a brake that you later decide doesn't work sufficiently?
Ali Clarkson Hi Ali! I think you may not do it again without explain it in the beginning. I start watching expecting to some tips to make it work better.
No problem to me, but some people could dislike it.
Regards!
Matt man Can you explain to me why I am the idiot here? I really do not understand how people like you think. It is a little bit weird to me.
Matt man Still wierd.
Rogério Costa I don’t think Matt Man understands the context. I assumed the exact same thing as you.
@Matt man as I said, I don't think you understand the context. Ali's videos are great and I've been subscribed for years. One of his previous videos was of him riding this bike and complaining that the brakes were crap and that he was going to ditch them. Then this video pops up, so I and others assumed this was about a fix to address the issues he was complaining about, but this video was recorded before his previous video, so it was not about that. SO after everything in this video, Ali is still going to ditch these brakes. That is all that is being said here. I've had some HS33s in the past and didn't have any issue with them.
what's the name of the hydraulic fluid you're using ?
Never had the freezing problem in the past but...I had one pop on me (for the water expanding) in the summer riding the Wessex competition that Andre Burton setup. I'd not long come out of my cast after doing my ankle in...not long after you did yours actually (I don't know if you'll remeber) I think you were riding yaabaa at the time. I was riding a hifi then!
Was a good weekend!
I would expect the speed with which the brakes open back up is mainly depending on the stiffness of the spring that pushes the break lever out, more than on the viscosity of the fluid.
These guys are Magura Masters 👍
I certainly hope this includes last riding vids rant ;)
This is great. I never get my magura's to grab like those of a pro.
The best brakes i have ever had were those HS33. Still on the bike i dont ride anymore... Maybe ill them from it and built myself some aort of trials rig...
You should have went for the koxx browns. Hands down the best brake I've ever had was koxx browns on my St Blaise with no booster
Thank you.Great stuff from the masters 👍
Wow so much knowledge and experience there! What do you think is the reason you were having the rear slip in your previous video?
@@Ali_Clarkson ever tried the hs11 lever? Proper old school.
thanks for the video, good series
Great video
Have you ever tried a 29er Bike?
Would love to see you try trials on a 29er Full Rigid frame like a 29er Trial/BMX
Love the combination of educational Videos and Vlogs on your channel keep it up
I do not even ride but still watched the whole video just to learn as I didn’t even know hydraulic rim brakes were a thing.
Thanks for this video👏👏👍👍👍
8:15 that escalated quickly :))
there are some interesting parts, such as the block which was used in the vice clamp, to hold on to the brake hose while the barb was hammered in. Is that something available commercially?
Wish this existed 1 year ago
Hello. Great video, especially the spoke part for the hoses. Can I ask, do I have to use specific Magura hoses. I have restored my Cannondale Super V 1000, and yesterday rebuilt the brakes, but O just used a random old hose, they do work, but I suspect the brakes are leaking where I have bridged the calipers. The hose I used has the black outer sleeve and a white lining. Could this be the problem. Any advise would be greatly appreciated. Thanks
I notice that you didn't put a barb in at 10:20. Only an olive and shroud nut, is a barb not necessary because it's low pressure? I've only dealt with avid disc brakes where there is a barb that you thread in and then screw an olive on that with a L/H thread?
In 4:25 you show this "gold bit" can I take this off and put on the new cable? If so how to to this since its diameter is shorter then the brakes tube?
You hit 80K subs!
Ali which brake do you recommend to a bike that just can get road rim brakes? And ceramic or not?
Thank for the videos
Can I use this fluid on a regular bike on long rides or will it get too hot?
Did you reupload this video?
@@Ali_Clarkson i understand now, well i just hope the competitive trials rider than watch you took the advice
Sorry if my english is sad
What mounting bracket is being used for the brake? Thanks.
It’s a specific magura 4-bolt clamp. A few brands have their own versions…check out www.tartybikes.co.uk as they have a few in stock
Is there a reason braided crossovers aren't that common? Wouldn't they resist tearing?
Skilled guy
Hi I like your video
Just saw you on Eglington Street :)
best thing to do is put a 2 pence piece between the pad and the rim , aslong as the wheel is true it will bite perfect and shouldnt rub . try and get jack carthy in a video ali hes just started his own youtube chanell a few weeks ago it would make an interesting vid]
Just bled my HS-33s with antifreeze...wish I had known this 25 years ago!
What type?
@@srboskovic Regular old automotive green antifreeze, undiluted. You can dump the whole gallon in a dish tub and submerge the entire brake system, zero bubbles! Kind of messy but so is using the syringes.
Hello, nice video +1 . My magura is making a noise when breaking, any idea how to incline the pad with magura hs 11 ? in order to make the front of the pad touch first the rim, thanks
Maybe there also is something that can be used in Sram brakes instead of the original Alien blood?
Top tips!
Wait I have old magura brakes and I didn't even notice that
hi i was wondering if you know how to adjust the sensitivity of the brakes, i’m trying to spread the brakes as far away from my rim as possible but really sensitive.
4:07 "WEEEEEEE"
Hi ali what size are the mounts you use
Why not put in some piss thin hydraulic oil?
Like VW/AUDI spec power steering fluid?
If you would pour in hydraulic oil a system runing on regular brake fluid (diethelene glycol) then the seals would all swell up, in reverse im guessing its the same thing.
I looked up some seal compatibility and NBR seals used for mineral oil are not suted to glycol based fluids, same for epdm seals designed for glycol based fluds dont work with mineral oils.
If anybody ever sees that blue drill in lidl then buy it. Total beast for £20😅
What is that yellow fluid?
does the hose is same diameter with the shimano or sram hose?
I have HS33s and they are always rusty: screws, brackets, clippers. Do you know someone who makes them in aluminum?
Use stainless steel, problem solved
Do people still use water instead of fluid
You bet 👍🏻
Thinking to try it how long does it last with water
thx
Can I use modern levers on the hs33 ?
Great!
Hey i need guide for my hs 11
Does anyone know if maguras fit bmx as they seem to fit se bikes and they use the same mounts
Hi
I'm ok based after a white HS33 2005 front brake cylinder body only. Please help anyone
You can put vodka instead of water so it does not freeze
Hydro rim brake for rim crushing power hahaha
Who's the world cup rider that uses V Brakes?
petrol works great in hs33s
Diesel sounds like it would work better.
@@apodski lol
Wtf? Why don't you have disk brakes? I ride bmx and I'm brakeless because a slight buckle in the rim brake makes your bike unridable.. how do you get around that?
@@Ali_Clarkson aah right.. probably the same reasons bmx bikes don't have disk breaks
m8 do some hs11 pliz
Anyones elses very very touchy??
Тот момент, когда ты занимаешься этим в 2022г впервые в жизни. Потому что тормоз прожил 15 лет без обслуживания.
So maugra good idea but rubbish design. Had them in the day and was so relieved to get disc brakes.
you just can't put a price on a good mechanic's time.. there are few feelings as nice as completely trusting someone's input/work :}
all that work to finally put some vbrakes instead!
Saw the water trick somewhere else.Never thought it was for quicker response.😯
Thank you for the explanation Adam👍
555
refrigerante de coches=)(/?
The best thing one can do; is just not buy this magura gotal crap shit stuff.
Plastic bolts. C'mon.
Being Im a guy from the USA you guys are speaking another language. Making it hard to understand, I left the video early.