i first fell into tuba (well, at the time an Eb Sousaphone) many years ago, and after many occasional forays, am now back on Eb tuba. please do more on this wonderful, vital, but often neglected instrument (except for Brass Bands and the occasional orchestral player). the one i play, made by Conn, has had an "aftermarket" 4th valve added, increasing its lower range, but remains an extremely compact horn.
Yamaha YEB.. EEb has the 4th valve and they sound bauetifull especially when playing in top register for renaisance suite, I found boosey n hawkes Eb does well also. the low end on yamaha sounds good as well can almost match the BBb, EEb was my main instrument in home bands in regional Queensland where everyone else was Bb though I just read Bass clef no transposing except when played small Eb (boosey n Hawkes) transpose up the octave as music would get too low
A couple years ago my great aunt found a 96 year old Eb tuba and I finally looked at it and tried to play some of my own music. I’ve been messing around for a couple minutes trying to figure out a trick to play it in ‘C’ and I think I found one that works
Actually, the Bb is technically BBb, then there is also CC. Those are the contrabasses. Bass consists of Eb, and F tubas. BBb are the biggest, and are student models. Eb are commonly more professional. CC and F are more obscure but they do exist. There also exists 4 or 5 BBBb subcontrabass tubas that are the size of a truck.
I know I'm late in the viewing, Trent, but a similar transposition hack for Horn in F is to play it in mezzosoprano clef and add one flat. That's what I did to play Mozart Horn Concerti on my tuba while at university back in the late 1970s. I started playing the E flat Bass back when I was 11 years old. When I transitioned to BB flat Bass it was on a Besson. I loved that horn. I still have a special fondness for my Conn E flat Bass, even though it was built in 1918 before A 440. I'm pretty sure that it's in A 432 or low pitch. I can't play it with any modern horns, so I just happily play solo with it.
I used to play Eb Bass, I had a Yamaha YEB 321 Silver finish and it was awesome playing it. Her name was ol' Blue since her case was blue on the inside lol
I started learning the E flat......mainly because I wanted a very heavy blasting horn (like a 1930's ocean liner) sound especially for chords .I like the E flat because it is heavier sounding and lower than the euphonium and also B flat instruments cost so much more..I have a Yorkmaster silver plated tuba ( 1960's ??) and I recently bought a very tarnished R.S.williams and Sons Class B instrument ,(very old but not sure how old) ,made by Boosey for Canadian import...Unfortunately the mouthpiece for my Yorkmaster is too big for it and I think it takes a European shank mouthpiece .......
Tuba is a hard instrument to start off learning, although I don't necessarily approve of the 'heavy blasting horn' comment, I must admit that I have been known to utter the sentiment that excellence comes through volume.
no no what I mean is I compose music .... you can hear it on my youtube channel....It is done on synthesizer, but I want to add real tuba in (absolute must) and mutitrack notes through a reverb (echo) unit ... for example a low C chord an octave below middle C and that is what gives the low tuba notes this fog horn sound ...I love that sound....
tú tienes de muchos instrumentos de la familia de los metales cómo el tenor cor,Frumpet, trompetas pero tú tienes otros instrumentos de la familia de los metales desconocidos como mellophone tuba y otros instrumentos de metal más eso es fabuloso
I’m 14 (highschool freshman), I just started playing at the start of my last school year. Honestly, for the little time I’ve been playing I’d say I’ve definitely improved a lot, but I still definitely have a ton left to learn. Ive been playing on Bb tubas but I’ve heard how Eb tubas sound and honestly they sound so amazing, I don’t know if I’ll ever be playing one, but if I ever do, do they have the same fingerings?? Probably not idek but just out of curiosity
I want to play VERY low notes but is the contrabass worth it? The contrabass doesn't seem to offer much more than those satisfying low notes. Is the Eb flat the tuba being used in concert bands or is it the contrabass (see Hal Leonard)? Which is better for a concert band player? I'm a woodwind player so this why everything is so strange to me.
I think this is the type of tuba i have. Used to play it at school 30 yrs ago. The only difference seems to be the 1st tube coming from the mouthpiece. It drops to form a bottom u bend (with spit valve) sitting next to the 1st valve tuning u turn before coming back up to the valve input manifold. I struggle to get really low. I was wondering if you have any advice on choosing mouthpieces for this tuba as i feel i have always had the wrong mouthpiece. It's on the large side and you can also see where it used to seat deeper into it's original instrument. seems like a 13.3 id on the tube for the mouthpiece but i feel the one i have should seat in a bit deeper.
Trent - I play euphonium in a brass band short on Eb tubas. I'm currently thinking about picking up Eb as we haev another euphonium player we can recruit. Any suggestions on how to get started?
Trent Hamilton that sounds weird. I play Bb Tuba and tried an Eb today and the only difference was size and the Eb had a sound I can only describe as like between a trombone and a Tuba, but otherwise everything else (including fingerings) is the same
Woah! Is there a trick for bass clef into treble clef for euphonium? I'm mainly a horn and trumpet player so i cant grasp bass clef easily, easily not yet. i'd really appreciate it because rewriting music in finale isn't fun.
Ok i have a question, when i would play an Eb or an f tuba, do i read treble clef/bass clef in there respective keys? Or in concert pitch (im obviously not a tuba player, but im just curious)
I play a little Bb Tuba, and I'm pretty sure it would be bass clef since its a base instrument. My main instrument is a Tenor Trombone and it's even in bass clef.
In practically every avenue of of brass playing (Orchestra, chamber, concert bands) you read Tuba, trombone and euphonium in concert pitch regardless of the key the instrument. But when you play in a traditional English style Brass Band, Tuba, trombones, Euphonium and horns read treble clef transposed to either Eb or Bb depending on the instrument.
It's interesting how music changes through out the world because where i live in Canada, and this goes for the rest of the Americas. It is called Tuba no matter what and the baritone and euphonium are not used professionally except for in concert/military band, BBb Tubas or as we call them double-b-flat Tubas are traditionally used for concert/military band and sometimes in orchestra, the traditional orchestral Tuba is a CC Tuba, F Tuba is used in orchestra for concertos or higher solos like bydlo, Eb Tuba is not accepted in orchestra because all it's registers low and high are considered to weak and quiet which I agree with because own one i also find it to have a not as nice tone compared to other Tubas, I also find this key of Tuba to have more tuning issues, no matter what Tuba always reads in bass clef, and the Horn (French Horn) and Trumpet are the only brass instruments that read in treble clef.
ComedyDude1231 i think Eb horns are used commonly in Europe not so much anywhere else. oh there's plenty of other treble clef brass instruments: alto horn, both alto and tenor cor, most of the saxhorns, all G bugles (even contrabass!), alto and smaller trombones, just to name a handful. who's the maker of your horn? the better horns have compensating valve systems
pds tech Eb horns are popular in the UK, but for other European nations such as Germany they use Bb. For treble clef instruments I was going off common instruments. Professional tubas here have a filth valve to mimic the compensating system, and you don't need a compensating system to sound good it just takes practice to memorize what that note sounds like and how to play it correctly. I wouldn't say instrument with compensation valve systems are better, i mean anywhere outside the UK you don't find any high reputation professionals using a compensating valve Eb horn, also not very many companies make professional Eb horns and i also find a lot of professional Eb horns not having compensating systems but rather 5 front action rotary valves.
yes, i have not seen anyone I know use Eb. just not enough of them made over here to attract anything other than a collector. Im a fan of compensating valves on euphonium since you can rely on it to help. but yes, you can adjust your playing certain notes without. I love uncommon horns :) thanks for clarifying who and where Eb horns are used!
I've recently acquired an Eb Bass and will be playing with a British style brass band and reading in treble clef for the first time in many years. You made a comment in this video to the effect that, when playing an Eb Bass, one can read in Bass Clef by essentially reading in treble clef with three added sharps. Is the opposite true - playing an Eb horn, can I read treble Clef music as if it were in Bass Clef and simply add three flats?
+NostalgiaKarl A euphonium higher than an alto horn would effectively be a flugelhorn, but that's considered a completely different instrument and is held and played like a trumpet or mellophone. It's really rather amazing how quickly the 1/f scaling law makes low wind instruments large. Euphoniums certainly _look_ like they'd be more than an octave lower than flugelhorns, but they're not. Baritone saxophones look similarly huge compared to altos, although there is only an octave between them, and the reason is the same. It's not just the length that doubles, but also the width of the cone before the bell flare. Certainly the weight is much more than doubled.
+Mike Liu Just search for Arban's carnival of Venice, if you're wanting the version I usually play. Although there are other good arrangements out there, such as that by Clarke.
Mike Liu both the arban or Clarke version are written for the Bb cornet or trumpet and you will have to transpose down one whole step as you are reading treble clef in order to be in concert pitch; it's a challenge but worth it if you can't find a version for tuba in bass clef. It's very satisfying to be able to crank out a great rendition of this tune for the skeptics, if they had any doubts as to your playing abilities this will make them true believers...
Yes, but you might have to have it taken apart and reassembled in a mirrored fashion to get a good position for your left hand. It has been done on several occasions.
5 months late, it is compensating as I recognize the horn he's using, but you can also tell because of the tubing in both in front and behind the instrument
Почему у него такой плохой звук?!?? Получается нормально играть лишь на эуфониме и теноровом тромбоне, а на других звук просто поносный. Большинство нот не звучат, а лишь продуваются, будто без базинга
HOLA AMIGO, SON MUY INTERESANTES TUS TUTORIALES, MI PREGUNTA ES TIENES ALGUNA FORMA DE SUBTITULARLO EN ESPAÑOL PARA EL MUNDO LATINO ? DESDE YA GRACIAS POR COMPARTIR TUS CONOCIMIENTOS SALUDOS DESDE ARGENTINA !!!!
It's the British Brass Band system of music where all the instruments (except bass trombone) reads treble clef and is transposed to sound in their appropriate register. Think this also means, everyone can read each others parts and can switch instruments as needed. Unrelated to the brass band, but this is also how all saxophones parts are written as, no matter what their fundamental pitch is, a saxophonist read their fingering in C Major on the treble clef and can therefore switch amongst the sax family without having to learn new fingerings or read a different clef. Still, since I learned in a different system (in America) I'm used to reading BBb tuba written as sounds in bass clef and therefore generally play bass trombone parts whenever I play in a silver band. Although, I like not having to worry about transposing, I can see the benefits of the system when switching to euphonium or trombone written as sounds as, since I'm primarily a contrabass tuba player, I'm not as quick reading ledgers above the bass clef as I am reading notes below it, lol
i first fell into tuba (well, at the time an Eb Sousaphone) many years ago, and after many occasional forays, am now back on Eb tuba. please do more on this wonderful, vital, but often neglected instrument (except for Brass Bands and the occasional orchestral player). the one i play, made by Conn, has had an "aftermarket" 4th valve added, increasing its lower range, but remains an extremely compact horn.
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Yamaha YEB.. EEb has the 4th valve and they sound bauetifull especially when playing in top register for renaisance suite, I found boosey n hawkes Eb does well also. the low end on yamaha sounds good as well can almost match the BBb, EEb was my main instrument in home bands in regional Queensland where everyone else was Bb though I just read Bass clef no transposing except when played small Eb (boosey n Hawkes) transpose up the octave as music would get too low
I read the first couple words and immediately thought you were gonna jump into a story about how you literally fell into a tuba bell
A couple years ago my great aunt found a 96 year old Eb tuba and I finally looked at it and tried to play some of my own music. I’ve been messing around for a couple minutes trying to figure out a trick to play it in ‘C’ and I think I found one that works
Yeah just read the Eb transposed music like bass clef. I do it with my Bari sax when I read tuba music
I am a euphonium player learning E flat. I just realized that starting from bottom of the clef F it is almost the same fingerings as euphonium.
Actually, the Bb is technically BBb, then there is also CC. Those are the contrabasses. Bass consists of Eb, and F tubas. BBb are the biggest, and are student models. Eb are commonly more professional. CC and F are more obscure but they do exist. There also exists 4 or 5 BBBb subcontrabass tubas that are the size of a truck.
Hi Trent, Quick question. What is your primary instrument?
Jamane Jope-Neligan his primary instrument is Euphonium
None he is a conductor
I know I'm late in the viewing, Trent, but a similar transposition hack for Horn in F is to play it in mezzosoprano clef and add one flat. That's what I did to play Mozart Horn Concerti on my tuba while at university back in the late 1970s. I started playing the E flat Bass back when I was 11 years old. When I transitioned to BB flat Bass it was on a Besson. I loved that horn. I still have a special fondness for my Conn E flat Bass, even though it was built in 1918 before A 440. I'm pretty sure that it's in A 432 or low pitch. I can't play it with any modern horns, so I just happily play solo with it.
I used to play Eb Bass, I had a Yamaha YEB 321 Silver finish and it was awesome playing it. Her name was ol' Blue since her case was blue on the inside lol
I just got a YEB 321 to learn E flat as a secondary and I love it. I really don't even mind it is a top 4v and non-compensating.
I started learning the E flat......mainly because I wanted a very heavy blasting horn (like a 1930's ocean liner) sound especially for chords .I like the E flat because it is heavier sounding and lower than the euphonium and also B flat instruments cost so much more..I have a Yorkmaster silver plated tuba ( 1960's ??) and I recently bought a very tarnished R.S.williams and Sons Class B instrument ,(very old but not sure how old) ,made by Boosey for Canadian import...Unfortunately the mouthpiece for my Yorkmaster is too big for it and I think it takes a European shank mouthpiece .......
Tuba is a hard instrument to start off learning, although I don't necessarily approve of the 'heavy blasting horn' comment, I must admit that I have been known to utter the sentiment that excellence comes through volume.
no no what I mean is I compose music .... you can hear it on my youtube channel....It is done on synthesizer, but I want to add real tuba in (absolute must) and mutitrack notes through a reverb (echo) unit ... for example a low C chord an octave below middle C and that is what gives the low tuba notes this fog horn sound ...I love that sound....
If you want a really good fog horn sound, get two euphos, have one play pedal Bb, and the other play C, a 9th higher.
I'm a c tuba... And the only tuba...
I'm BBb tuba
I'm a BBb Sousaphone
Weird I am a human
Bb Tuba but I want to play euphonium and eb tuba. Maybe Alto horn as well.
I'm a BBb Tuba and I'm also the only tuba lol
tú tienes de muchos instrumentos de la familia de los metales cómo el tenor cor,Frumpet, trompetas pero tú tienes otros instrumentos de la familia de los metales desconocidos como mellophone tuba y otros instrumentos de metal más eso es fabuloso
I’m 14 (highschool freshman), I just started playing at the start of my last school year. Honestly, for the little time I’ve been playing I’d say I’ve definitely improved a lot, but I still definitely have a ton left to learn. Ive been playing on Bb tubas but I’ve heard how Eb tubas sound and honestly they sound so amazing, I don’t know if I’ll ever be playing one, but if I ever do, do they have the same fingerings?? Probably not idek but just out of curiosity
The fingerings on Eb tubas are different.
I want to play VERY low notes but is the contrabass worth it? The contrabass doesn't seem to offer much more than those satisfying low notes. Is the Eb flat the tuba being used in concert bands or is it the contrabass (see Hal Leonard)? Which is better for a concert band player? I'm a woodwind player so this why everything is so strange to me.
I'm a bass trombone player and I have to transpose Eb bass a lot so I have to add 3 flats to put it into bass clef
I think this is the type of tuba i have. Used to play it at school 30 yrs ago. The only difference seems to be the 1st tube coming from the mouthpiece. It drops to form a bottom u bend (with spit valve) sitting next to the 1st valve tuning u turn before coming back up to the valve input manifold. I struggle to get really low. I was wondering if you have any advice on choosing mouthpieces for this tuba as i feel i have always had the wrong mouthpiece. It's on the large side and you can also see where it used to seat deeper into it's original instrument. seems like a 13.3 id on the tube for the mouthpiece but i feel the one i have should seat in a bit deeper.
Man. That Tuba must be heavy! XD 😂
Trent - I play euphonium in a brass band short on Eb tubas. I'm currently thinking about picking up Eb as we haev another euphonium player we can recruit. Any suggestions on how to get started?
I personally prefer the Bb bass. I mainly play in concert bands and jazz enables, where I play in place of a bass guitar or string bass.
Trent i question i have . Is there a single Eb sousaphone or only in a double ? Thanks mate
In America, all of low brass reads bass clef, which is why low brass Bb instruments are pitched in C. In America, what would an Eb Tuba be pitched in?
They're all written in concert pitch - the player of an Eb tuba would have to memorise a different set of fingering compared to a Bb tuba player.
Trent Hamilton that sounds weird. I play Bb Tuba and tried an Eb today and the only difference was size and the Eb had a sound I can only describe as like between a trombone and a Tuba, but otherwise everything else (including fingerings) is the same
So when you say it's in Eb, you're talking about the home key. How does it transpose then?
Those g bugles in drum corps are heavy! to me though
Nice video Trent, but you're a trumpet player, right? You play the tuba like a lead trumpet.
Woah! Is there a trick for bass clef into treble clef for euphonium? I'm mainly a horn and trumpet player so i cant grasp bass clef easily, easily not yet. i'd really appreciate it because rewriting music in finale isn't fun.
Add three flats C,B,Bb D,Db,C etc.
Ok i have a question, when i would play an Eb or an f tuba, do i read treble clef/bass clef in there respective keys? Or in concert pitch (im obviously not a tuba player, but im just curious)
This is generally speaking
I play a little Bb Tuba, and I'm pretty sure it would be bass clef since its a base instrument. My main instrument is a Tenor Trombone and it's even in bass clef.
In practically every avenue of of brass playing (Orchestra, chamber, concert bands) you read Tuba, trombone and euphonium in concert pitch regardless of the key the instrument. But when you play in a traditional English style Brass Band, Tuba, trombones, Euphonium and horns read treble clef transposed to either Eb or Bb depending on the instrument.
Please tell me what size of DenisWick mouthpiece you use in this video!
well Trent, I'm about to buy an Eb, cannot wait. If you run into my Daughter Maddie there in Wellington, tell her hello!
+Indy HotDog If I ever meet someone who calls identifies themselves as Maddie, I'll be sure to mention that Indy HotDog says hello :)
It's interesting how music changes through out the world because where i live in Canada, and this goes for the rest of the Americas. It is called Tuba no matter what and the baritone and euphonium are not used professionally except for in concert/military band, BBb Tubas or as we call them double-b-flat Tubas are traditionally used for concert/military band and sometimes in orchestra, the traditional orchestral Tuba is a CC Tuba, F Tuba is used in orchestra for concertos or higher solos like bydlo, Eb Tuba is not accepted in orchestra because all it's registers low and high are considered to weak and quiet which I agree with because own one i also find it to have a not as nice tone compared to other Tubas, I also find this key of Tuba to have more tuning issues, no matter what Tuba always reads in bass clef, and the Horn (French Horn) and Trumpet are the only brass instruments that read in treble clef.
ComedyDude1231 i think Eb horns are used commonly in Europe not so much anywhere else. oh there's plenty of other treble clef brass instruments: alto horn, both alto and tenor cor, most of the saxhorns, all G bugles (even contrabass!), alto and smaller trombones, just to name a handful. who's the maker of your horn? the better horns have compensating valve systems
pds tech Eb horns are popular in the UK, but for other European nations such as Germany they use Bb. For treble clef instruments I was going off common instruments. Professional tubas here have a filth valve to mimic the compensating system, and you don't need a compensating system to sound good it just takes practice to memorize what that note sounds like and how to play it correctly. I wouldn't say instrument with compensation valve systems are better, i mean anywhere outside the UK you don't find any high reputation professionals using a compensating valve Eb horn, also not very many companies make professional Eb horns and i also find a lot of professional Eb horns not having compensating systems but rather 5 front action rotary valves.
yes, i have not seen anyone I know use Eb. just not enough of them made over here to attract anything other than a collector. Im a fan of compensating valves on euphonium since you can rely on it to help. but yes, you can adjust your playing certain notes without. I love uncommon horns :) thanks for clarifying who and where Eb horns are used!
The french horn can read in bass clef too. It's fun playing real low on a horn. :)
Who would even know what kind of tuba is being used?
can a Bb tuba have three piston valves instead of 4 rotary valves because I'm in a marching band and I play one but I'm confused
+cian Kelly Yes, Bb tubas can have either piston or rotary valves, and have a minimum of three valves. I've seen some tubas that have 6 or more.
How does one switch from b flat tuba to e flat tuba fingering wise while reading bass clef?
Practice and learning fingering.
I've recently acquired an Eb Bass and will be playing with a British style brass band and reading in treble clef for the first time in many years. You made a comment in this video to the effect that, when playing an Eb Bass, one can read in Bass Clef by essentially reading in treble clef with three added sharps. Is the opposite true - playing an Eb horn, can I read treble Clef music as if it were in Bass Clef and simply add three flats?
C. Clerc As the bass trombonist in my jazz band, from my time sneaking some notes from the bari sax, yes you can.
Does your trick work the other way? Bass to treble?
Yes indeed, you just subtract 3 shaprs instead of add them. Useful for bass trombone players to nick Eb parts if you forget your music!
okay thank you!
My dad has a baritone that can play as low as F# without pressing any of the keys. I expect it’s because of the massive dent on the bottom.
that's actually a false tone!
there's also the alto horn and soprano euphonium.
Soprano euphonium?
Benjabenja77 yeah, isn't there a euphonium higher than an alto horn?
+NostalgiaKarl A euphonium higher than an alto horn would effectively be a flugelhorn, but that's considered a completely different instrument and is held and played like a trumpet or mellophone. It's really rather amazing how quickly the 1/f scaling law makes low wind instruments large. Euphoniums certainly _look_ like they'd be more than an octave lower than flugelhorns, but they're not. Baritone saxophones look similarly huge compared to altos, although there is only an octave between them, and the reason is the same. It's not just the length that doubles, but also the width of the cone before the bell flare. Certainly the weight is much more than doubled.
hey trent, can you post a link to carnival of venice for bb flat bass? I'm having lots of trouble finding a good version.
+Mike Liu Just search for Arban's carnival of Venice, if you're wanting the version I usually play. Although there are other good arrangements out there, such as that by Clarke.
Mike Liu both the arban or Clarke version are written for the Bb cornet or trumpet and you will have to transpose down one whole step as you are reading treble clef in order to be in concert pitch; it's a challenge but worth it if you can't find a version for tuba in bass clef. It's very satisfying to be able to crank out a great rendition of this tune for the skeptics, if they had any doubts as to your playing abilities this will make them true believers...
I had a stroke and i playde eeb tuba so my quiston is Can i play with one left hand "?
Yes, but you might have to have it taken apart and reassembled in a mirrored fashion to get a good position for your left hand. It has been done on several occasions.
do you use BBb tubas??
How would you add 3 sharps
I'm in a bass quintet, I play trombone
Michael Kirby I wouldn't know sorry, I didn't set it up, it was my band teacher
Is that a compensating or non-compensating horn?
5 months late, it is compensating as I recognize the horn he's using, but you can also tell because of the tubing in both in front and behind the instrument
Compensating. Almost all 4 valves (and quite a few 3 valve)tubas are compensating.
+Emperor_Xenolius no they're not. That's pretty much a British convention, as evidenced with his Besson.
Ok, almost all GOOD tubas are compensating :)
+Emperor_Xenolius XD I don't know that I would necessarily consider Besson as one of the really good tubas... but hey Fletch could make them sing!
What is the song or piece that he is playing in this?
Please play Puff the Magic Dragon for us.
I play this
can someone explain his transposing trick
I think it was just his playing, but his sound was not very good
Почему у него такой плохой звук?!?? Получается нормально играть лишь на эуфониме и теноровом тромбоне, а на других звук просто поносный. Большинство нот не звучат, а лишь продуваются, будто без базинга
i am not sure that your suppose to use a tuba on a treble clef
You do in a brass band.
Trent Hamilton wow... I did not know that... Thanks!
Michael Kirby I played Trumpet for two years and recently switched to Bb tuba, and I replay my old music in treble clef all the time with my Tuba.
Excuse me i csnt hear you
HOLA AMIGO, SON MUY INTERESANTES TUS TUTORIALES, MI PREGUNTA ES TIENES ALGUNA FORMA DE SUBTITULARLO EN ESPAÑOL PARA EL MUNDO LATINO ? DESDE YA GRACIAS POR COMPARTIR TUS CONOCIMIENTOS SALUDOS DESDE ARGENTINA !!!!
;)
Good luck telling people that you play bass, and expecting them to understand you.
no puede hacer el video en español??
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What the hell is wrong with this guy? Playing bass trombone and tuba whilst reading treble clef. Smh
It's the British Brass Band system of music where all the instruments (except bass trombone) reads treble clef and is transposed to sound in their appropriate register. Think this also means, everyone can read each others parts and can switch instruments as needed. Unrelated to the brass band, but this is also how all saxophones parts are written as, no matter what their fundamental pitch is, a saxophonist read their fingering in C Major on the treble clef and can therefore switch amongst the sax family without having to learn new fingerings or read a different clef.
Still, since I learned in a different system (in America) I'm used to reading BBb tuba written as sounds in bass clef and therefore generally play bass trombone parts whenever I play in a silver band. Although, I like not having to worry about transposing, I can see the benefits of the system when switching to euphonium or trombone written as sounds as, since I'm primarily a contrabass tuba player, I'm not as quick reading ledgers above the bass clef as I am reading notes below it, lol
you can't play the tuba.
whoo you trying to fool
dennis brown shut up. he is a great musician