LIVE: MA v. Karen Read Day 30 - Killer Or Cover-Up Murder Trial | COURT TV
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- Опубликовано: 19 окт 2024
- LIVE COURT CAM: MA v. #KarenRead - DAY 30 - The Defense for Karen Read continues. They are expected to rest as early as Monday.
Read is accused of murdering her boyfriend, Boston Police Officer John O’Keefe, whose body was found in the snow outside of another Boston officer’s home in Canton, Massachusetts.
TRIAL NOTES:
00:08:06 ON THE RECORD - MA v. Karen Read
00:09:35 DEFENSE WITNESS #4) Dr. Frank Sheridan, Forensic Pathologist
00:47:29 CONT. DEFENSE WITNESS #4) Dr. Frank Sheridan, Forensic Pathologist
01:00:16 CROSS BY ADA Adam Lally
01:31:25 DEFENSE #5) Dr. Daniel Michael Wolfe, Accident Reconstructionist, Arcca
02:35:49 CROSS BY ADA Adam Lally
03:13:34 DEFENSE #6) Dr. Andrew Rentschler, Arcca
03:45:44 CROSS BY ADA Adam Lally
04:06:28 DEFENSE RESTS
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*TRIAL NOTES:*
00:08:06 ON THE RECORD - MA v. Karen Read - DAY 30
00:09:35 DEFENSE WITNESS #4) Dr. Frank Sheridan, Forensic Pathologist
00:47:29 CONT. DEFENSE WITNESS #4) Dr. Frank Sheridan, Forensic Pathologist
01:00:16 CROSS BY ADA Adam Lally
01:31:25 DEFENSE #5) Dr. Daniel Michael Wolfe, Accident Reconstructionist, Arcca
02:35:49 CROSS BY ADA Adam Lally
03:13:34 DEFENSE #6) Dr. Andrew Rentschler, Arcca
03:45:44 CROSS BY ADA Adam Lally
04:06:28 DEFENSE RESTS
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Great to see a fella Dublin man never lost his accent watching from Dublin Ireland 🇮🇪
Do ya'll have any popular or interesting court channels over there on RUclips that you can suggest for watching?
Camera's aren't allowed in our courts so we can't watch court cases here
@user-le6zo7vm4u it sure is thank u
@@paulafinnegan429 Well that's no fun!
To all the pro common weathers, the defense true experts absolutely destroyed the prosecution
I have to agree. The old man autopsy guy and the two biomechanical sides just won the case for the defence.
There is so much subjectivity to the death that you cannot charge karen reed.
officers that want justice don't destroy evidence.
One or all of them (including a few police wives) are guilty of some things, maybe a lot of things. They know more than they are saying, they did more than we know. Innocent people don't destroy phones, don't fill in pools, don't dig up basement flooring, don't need to sell a long standing "family home" and hide lots and lots of assets. Shame on them, shame on all of them. Something really stinks in Canton.
Happened before and its no more than 9 years ago the BPD ,..that is 9 "members" of the Boston police was charged with fraud after have done something really wrong when it came to overtime vs payouts. 9 Officers charged. I dont even care if Karen is guilty no more because this case is the worst of examples Ive ever seen when it comes to especially the socalled lead detective. Not so much his texts and that bullshit but all the things he did NOT do. Ive watched the whole trial . Goodnight from across the Atlantic. Norway out at 00:50 a.m.
The ones that want to be promoted to driving the car/truck and don't want their drug use exposed tend to be less interested in "justice." Every one of them would be in line at the Walmart Employment Day event, if they had to admit their trafficking during high school. This bunch is the most inbred, good ole boy, group ever networked. Find ONE that could get a job anywhere if their background was ACTUALLY investigated. Daddy's connection's has provided all the cousin's careers oportunities. Clean house.
They certainly do not especially surveillance evidence that demonstrates Karen Read's vehicle damaged returning to O'Keefe home-ONLY Karen Read could have accessed the RING at O'Keefe home and deleted parts of it.
And girlfriends don't think they run over their boyfriends
These last two witnesses were devastating to the prosecution, IMO.
BEST FOR LAST cuz. Wolfe was an understated badass, assured, well manicured, just handsome enough, precise, calm and coherent. A Dream Expert! No bumbling or hesitation! A sharp knife cutting through the bs from the prosecution AND the judge who I still feel should have recused herself when requested!!
@hardwired8084 agree. Well spoken with unmatched credentials. Add that they weren't flustered at all with the cross examination.
@@hardwired8084Right?! Like truly so intelligent, sound in his responses, confident, and aware that his intelligence over shadows that of lullaby Lilly, but not arrogant about it. If he needs a wife I shall apply.
@@rushrules81that’s how it should be for witnesses and experts..if they are telling the truth or accurate and knowledgeable then they shouldn’t be stuttering and stumbling over everything that comes out of their mouths like the prosecutions witnesses and experts did
@@hardwired8084well said
I hope to NEVER have to watch another trial where Laly is the prosecutor lol
Amen to that
He’s probably gonna be fired after this!
I'm pretty sure that he has ensured that you won't ever have to again. Auntie Bev probably ought to retire, too. I hear she has a nice place out at the cape. I think it's high tine she go out to pasture down there.
Oh he has made himself unhirable
Omg! Actually painful to watch him!
"can you repeat the question?"
"Probably not"
Haha
Loved that
😂😂😂
If you love him here Watch him as a Prosecutor on the Phil Spector Case.
I hope the jury finds Lally’s incessant, inexplicable, predictable objections as annoying as I do. Grrrrrrrr
And his constant dry cough.
Don't forget his low talking
And the side bar every two minutes
SHE'S SMUG, NOT REMORSEFUL THAT HER BOYFRIEND DIED. AND CAN BUY HER WAY OUT OF THIS. SHE'S GUILTY PERIOD
If he had his way, he'd object to everything asked, oh what, he has just about done that. Ridiculous! He doesn't want the truth to come out. There are lots of liars on this case and Karen is NOT one of them.
How can they object for seemingly no reason just because it doesnt suit their narrative. Wtf is this nonsense?
Exactly- that’s why attorneys are supposed to state the grounds for their objections when making them. This whole trial is an embarrassing joke.
Judge in their pocket.
Prosecution. "Objection" Judge. " Sustain" CONSTANTLY!!
They don't even give a reason for the objection which they are bound by oath to do. Its part of their lawful and proper presentation.
The judge is undoubtedly being investigated after this trial
State police reconstruction people look like amateurs compared to these two professionals ! Shame on the state police for not hiring the best educated people.
The 2 professionals were hired by the FBI. They provided their reports to both prosecution and defense. Prosecution decided to stick with their own narrative and use their troopers as experts who did a couple of in-house courses 😂.
The true professionals would not have testified to fit their concocted narrative. They had to use people in their own cult to frame Karen.
@@Justneed2say because they’re part of the cover-up!
@@Justneed2saynot a smart choice for him, he’s a laughing stock of YT now lol
@@Justneed2saydon't forget the reconstruction cop is a self promoted scene whisper
For any one here that would find her guilty, please don’t sit on a jury because you can not “hear” the evidence and understand “reasonable doubt”……I did not say she was innocent, but the state did not prove beyond a reasonable doubt.
That’s your opinion and other people are entitled to theirs.
@@katiekoo16 this trial doesn’t need opinions. They need people who will listen to the evidence…there is no,zero, Nada evidence against Karen.!!!
@@katiekoo16The point is that the Comm should prove their case so your opinion won't matter. Beyond a reasonable doubt. They either proved it, or they didn't. They certainly didn't prove anything to me. I'm curious, everyone who says she's guilty: what was the compelling evidence that proves it to you? Try as I might, I can't find any.
@@maryanneantho4084 they came in with preconceived ideas about Karen… guarantee they’re just trolls from the town!
@@maryanneantho4084 The opinion I am referring to is whether or not there is reasonable doubt. That’s a matter of opinion, not a matter of fact.
I am getting tired of this DA whining every time the defense challenges them and the judge saying it is ok.
Thank you for covering this. Been watching gavel to gavel!
Lally was grasping at anything at the end. I think crying for mommy helped him the most.
😂
🤣🤣
Wasn’t it Karen calling daddy Ll morning ? Which 40 year old rings mummy and daddy from 1 am till 5am. Probably a 40 year old who’s just killed.
😂😂😂
I heard he was outside smoking cigarettes like wild! 😝 explains his nasty dry cough 😷
I’m an RN, it was hard to listen to the ME who needed oxygen, bless him!
I totally agree! That audible breathing was extremely tough to take.
Antiquated building. No AC - guy could have asthma.
I know me too!!!! But having little ones all I though was that he had major hard dried up mucus in his nostrils
@@CullenClan he was probably on some plane with bad ventilation and that courtroom doesn't have AC. Moms know it all. 100%
I just kept picturing Darth Vader on the stand. 😳
Karen will be a Free woman soon. Then she can concentrate on suing everyone involved in the circus of a trial
Millions and Proctors house!
I’m f she gets away with murder then she’s more likely to have a wrongful death suite against her. That’s a fact. Then she has to testify or lose everything she has.
And the pizza joint
@@stevenprice6957 so what. Theres a point there? Lose everything? Where do you get your info from. Firstly, if shes exonerated, its very hard to prove shes responsible. Very hard. Shes also going to sue everyone and their mama if its not guilty.
@@ecalose6785OJ ring a bell. She’s going down one way or another. Then the karma bus will get her and hopefully the diver leaves her there in freezing weather
Those marks on the arm CLEARLY indicate a dog is involved. The marks are so linear that it can NOT be ignored . REASONABLE DOUBT ALL OVER THIS CIRCUS ! And of course, the dog is now "re-located. . How can you live with a dog for 9 years and then just suddenly decide to "re-locate" him ? Because he had been in trouble before or,........then again the timeline fits a little too well . Dogs are animals you get highly attached to and just dont ship away after had have him for that long time. I dont even believe for a second Karen has done anything on purpose with intent , if involved at all ! This case should have never gone to trial. Finito and goodnight from across the Atlantic. This """investigation""" is a disgrace . Is Boston police some kind of ,.... forget it. Not even going to go THERE but Ive read myself up on Boston PD and it "seems" they have their own culture about and amongst themselves. Mr Proctors texts UPWARDS the chain of command is very disturbing to say the least. Ive heard enough. NOT GUILTY. Goodnight from Norway.
Proctor Is a Massachusetts state police . They're worse than Boston pd
I think it's understandable that the dog was relocated. After all look what the dog did to those phones updating them resetting them basically getting rid of them that was a dirty trick to play on the dog's owners who were going to be handing them over the very next day to be examined forensically. I wouldn't you relocate your dog if it had done that to your phone plus all the butt dialing dogs should not be butt dialing the phones
“””investigation”””…. Best use of quotation marks in history!!!!!!!!!!
Just imagine how many people are in prison from this dirty judge and Canton police force. Downright scary!
8 weeks from CW w/ corrupt witnesses and 2 days of top trained unbiased professional witnesses….incredible job defense, just incredible 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
For real!
Prosecutions case took so long because the witnesses had to ask can u repeat the question a hundred times
@@tylr1717 troopers vs actual experts.
Sad sad there will be no justice for the O'Keefe family at all just a waste of time and money. Way to go MA.
I hope there will be justice... hopefully they find out what happened in that basement
Insinaistent with the clothing marks though
@@gloriamarion6038??? What are you trying to say Gloria?
@@Maureen-q6w the evidence the common wealth presented was inconsistent with the clothing marks. That didn’t happen by any shards of plastic.
I really hope they follow through on this. Someone said maybe a journalist will get involved and find out what really happened. I may even fly to MA.
I have second hand embarrassment for Lally. Crossing these REAL experts by bringing up Trooper Paul's theory of a 'side swipe'. How these experts managed to keep a straight face is beyond me.
😂😂😂 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
It’s actually terrifying the standard in the police force and how many cases they would have investigated
The jury should deliberate enough time it takes to drink a cup of coffee then announce the not guilty verdict. 😂
Haha yes I agree they will probably give it a token hour to deliberate
They’ll probably want to get that last free lunch in first lol
NOT GUILTY.
In all the trials I have watched in entirety (roughly 100), I have never seen so many objections regarding expert opinions! Even if both sides have experts with completely opposite beliefs as to what happened, it's ALWAYS allowed in. So weird.
Isn't that the point of these experts? To opine on what their education and experiences have taught them to be true? Attempting to dismantle such opinions is what cross is for.... it just makes the Commonwealth seem insecure and threatened by the truth! Surely the jury must be speculating as to why they won't allow an expert to give their opinion if it doesn't jive with the story THEY are trying to tell.
Why even allow the experts to testify at all if they can't be honest and trabsparent about the facts and the evidence?
Not weird, unjust!
Objections sustained side bars sighing
Awful
The Judge is obviously leaning towards the Prosecution. Her chair should be by Lally’s. The DOJ should be in that Courtroom.
Very rare do you not have to state your reason for objecting as well. Can't object just because you don't like a question
Agreed
OMG!! To never see JUDGE Bev again! Especially, never to see or HEAR Lally!!!
Right!!! Both annoying as heck! Ugh
I would vote not guilty based on the number of objections by the prosecutor alone. Obviously he doesn't want the jury to hear anything that's contrary to his theory.
Hardly how jury decisions should be made. Objections are based on rules of evidence, not on the prosecution’s theory. Perhaps if the defence asked questions that weren’t open to objection, the process would be smoother and not upset you so much.
@@katiekoo16 no, it would still upset me. But good to know we have a expert on here.
@@notthatronjohnson1187 You’re welcome ☺️
Then you should never be on a jury.
@@lilmansmama no problem, got off the list permanently 4 years ago when I turned 72.🤗🤗 but I did serve on 3 over 45 years. One a murder trial. Google Jeremy Scott. His 1st trial. Prosecutor was as inept as this one, and he walked.
The Arcca guys are rock stars!
So glad these defense witnesses are acknowledging that those are dog bites on his arm. That's the biggest proof that the prosecution cannot no longer deny..it is what it is..for Karen's sake, I hope this ends soon!😊
But there was no DNA….?
@@lisamcfarland8518 I think they washed the clothes or something. How do they not find canine DNA but pig?
They swabbed his clothes. Not the lacerations on his arm
@@NursePinkLolalol. Yes the so called bite holes. Ludicrous to have no canine DNA and blame a dog.
@NursePinkLola
....but he wasn’t found shirtless, so would not make sense that any DNA deposited by what is being suggested - a dog bite, that dog would have had to bite through his clothes to be able to wound the arm - meaning there should have been saliva and spit and plenty dog DNA on Mr O’Keefe’s clothing?
Lally: “did the crime scene speak to you too like it spoke to Trooper Paul?”
😂😂😂
Lally is trying to look at each piece of evidence individually and *in isolation* and ask whether this is consistent with a pedestrian collision. He continuously objects when the defense wants to connect those pieces. This is inappropriate. Accident reconstruction *necessarily* involves looking not only at each piece of evidence, but also the *totality* of the evidence for internal consistency.
You cannot look at one piece of evidence and say that it is consistent with set A of collision scenarios, another piece is consistent with set B of scenarios, and a third with set C, but then neglect to determine whether there is any overlap between sets A, B, and C.
ADA Lally is acting disingenuously here, in a way that proves he is NOT attempting to arrive at the truth, but is instead trying to actively mislead the jury. This is far more than an appellate issue and crosses into the realm of ethics. He ought to be investigated and censured at a minimum for these antics.
Karen is INNOCENT. Prove me wrong. GO!
They’re actually having a trial as we speak that addresses your question. So, me personally, I would just watch and not ask RUclips commenters to prove or disprove anything.
But she’s also 100% innocent and this former cop (me) is horrified that this case is even on trial. Heads are gunna roll. And they know it too.
@@mattharikian6134 I’ve been following this trail since day 1. That is why I’m shocked some people think she is guilty. I’m asking them directly what facts are they aware of that makes them feel she is guilty? Texts , threats, phone calls and voice mails can’t harm a person physically. So they might show motive but how did she kill him? This is the information I would like to hear from anyone that thinks Karen killed JO.
@@justmegaming1169you’re correct. She’s innocent, it’s so blatantly clear and I’m actually shocked that the judge didn’t dismiss the case on Friday. Each day I watch this trial I’m in more shock. How did this ever make it to this point?
When this trial is over I would love to hear what the jury thought of McAlberts and Piggins testimony
Guilty. Drunk, 9 drinks! When she dropped him off she admits she was mad at his friends, when she wakes up she notices her tail light broken. ? When she returns n sees his body she tells paramedics "did I unwittingly incapacitate him with my car. "? It's simple. Shes guilty. You may not like the ppl in the house or how they acted, but they didn't harm him . She did. She was to drunk to remember. Guilty
Oh . There's my tail light , at the scene of his death. ? With pieces of his hair and cocktail glass stuck in the bumper. He probably bent down slipped maybe, car hit his head. K Nocking him out. The ppl in the house mite look corrupt, but it doesn't change the fact she hit him and it lead to his death.
OMG! These guys had one mission in their analysis, to determine if the injuries to the body are consistent with being stroke by a vehicle. Why is the state asking about the shoe, the cap, the darn glass. Just shoot me!
Yeah, 70% / 30%, bs / legit data. This whole case could have been wrapped up in 2 weeks.
Cuz lally’s a idiot??
Scary that all the Alberts and Mc’Cades are still having family and friends troll all the comments.
They are very dangerous People!
I think it worked for them at the beginning but then more and more people started coming out in support of Karen so the amount of support for Karen outweighs all their little puppets. They thought because she’s an outsider that she would be an easy target to blame. Sadly for the O’Keefe family that there won’t be true justice for them.
Even the fbi knows this, I'm sure they will also find an agency to investigate it, they can't trust canton or msp. But the mcalberts will be arrested in time.
The judge is a joke, she allows every question from the prosecution but opposes every question from the defense, biased much?
The defence keeps asking leading and compound questions of their own witnesses. They open themselves to objections.
@@katiekoo16 You clearly have not watched the entire trial.
Can I just say that DR. WOLFE is one fine man !!🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Good looking, classy and smart
Very!!!!
The doctor after him was nice looking too
COVER UP COVER UP !!! Was not hit by car!!!!! BOOM!!!!
Someone explain how a RIGHT TAIL LIGHT clipped his RIGHT ARM. Without his whole body not being hit. Stand behind a car facing it and tell me how you clip just the front right arm.
What if he wasn’t facing the back of the car?
Not even really the front right arm..the inner arm, explain that lol it’s crazy
If we all received one dollar for every time this judge called/allowed a sidebar, we all could pay our mortgage or rent for 3 months!
I mention this because it's frowned upon by higher courts. Off the record = not good!
Furthermore, if the judge would simply ask, "What's the objection?" Instead of calling Side Bar right out of the gate, that would be different.
Do you think there’s any chance, however slight, that she will be disbarred/unseated? What about Lally?
@@katiecouture1739 who knows I’ve watched a lot of trials. I never remember seeing a judge interfere so much and all the theatrics of her sighing and twirling her glasses.
lol true
Its crazy people would vote guilty with this many holes in a theroy! It seems so obivous this did not happen like the prosecutor said so its automatic not guilty. I dont understand the logic
How this case ever came to trial it is beyond me!
When will the real murderers be arrested? They have the address 🧐
John was involved in a fight in the house, most likely with the hothead volatile Colin--probably over something meaningless, and certainly fueled by most of the partygoers being fueled by excessive alcohol. Colin's family (the McAlberts) all (including poor Chloe) joined in and beat the hell out of John. When they saw what they had done, they dumped him outside to die. Then they put their pointy heads together for the coverup. Another scenario might involve Higgins with a possible grudge against John because he wanted Karen. She certainly lead Higgins on, leading him to believe she wanted out of her relationship with John.
Spot on, IMO
I actually believe the fight started with Higgins and John. Brian Albert jumped in and probably Colin too. Chloe seeing her master threatened, attacked the arm of John, probably because he was beating Brian Albert’s behind.
Has anyone said where Chloe was at the time? They just said where was the barking where was Chloe. Has the family been made to tell where the dog was?
Yes, I think the fight started between John and Collin. Brian and his dog jumped in. Someone hit him in the back of the head with an object (bat/weight).
It is said that a person at the house went into the debt defense attorneys office and said he witnessed the fight and that he was knocked out and when he came to a half hour later, he started convulsing and puking. They wanted to blame it on the driver, but when couldn’t put it on Karen. How can the family believe their lies? They’re being completely manipulated .
He never went in the house. Have you watched ? He didn’t move seconds after Karen reversed at speed from the same position. Exactly where he was found by his killer.
Why is it that when the defense asks an expert, using the same verbiage used by the prosecution, the prosecution objects?
honestly I havent followed this trial I dont even have a television lol but I will say this .Im 65 My father was a 100 percent total disabled from the Korean War ,He was decorated by Truman .Back then the family's didnt get help like they do today . The Police were the only ones there for me and my family especially my father .When he felt well enouugh he would go fishing and he fished with all police officers on Cape Cod .Have the police changed ? Yes The are going by federal guilines in the academies,I personally dont think its good You cant get the feds invovlved in the police departments .It doesnt mean all the police officers are bad its quite the opposite . Please dont Generalise and judge them its an extremely difficult job they have today . This is tradjic all the way around , it hurts everyone the families and the police I just pray to God that the Jury makes the right decision. . God Bless the families
and all the people in Law enforcement !.
Lally is finished as a prosecutor. Hope he has his retirement papers ready to exit stage left.
Tom, she’s still guilty and if the jurors don’t find her guilty then she’s has to answer to the good Lord
@@VictoriaGray-yq2gd Sorry Victoria, that's not how it works...the presumption of innocence NOT GUILT is what prevails in our justice system.
The burden of proof is on the state to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that someone committed a crime.
The defendant doesn't have to prove their innocence. Obviously, you failed civics 101.
Why do you think shes guilty? She might be but i don't trust any of the evidence or the cops there. Cops like these make so many great ones look bad.@VictoriaGray-yq2gd
@@VictoriaGray-yq2gdwhen did you become an attorney too make that judgement. Didn't the Lord also say not to pass judgement 🤔. You do you and let our judicial system do their job.
@@VictoriaGray-yq2gd Amazing! None of his injuries line up with being hit by her vehicle, yet somehow you still think she did it.
Another winner of a witness for the defence . Got to laugh at how low the defence has stooped to find experts
That’s the most disrespectful judge… she needs to set still, stop rocking, and swiveling her chair that’s just rude to everyone!
The CW never explained (or even talked about) where all the blood from his head injury went! Where’s all the blood?! Like my mom use to say when something went missing, I guess the blood grew legs and walked off the scene.
Especially since he was standing prior to the incapacitated occipital hit as seen on blood patterns on front and back of hood.
Wow, excellent point about the blood I didn’t even even think of that! Yes, where did all the blood go?
Prosecution too focused on getting Albert’s and McCabe off the hook, or trying to
Seems like the blood entered the brain , the underlying tissue and into his eye lids, therefore huge amount of swelling represents INTERNAL bleeding. Also, the freezing temperatures causes blood to coagulate. She stated" I hit him" and that only changed when her high powered attorneys claimed a new narrative. Don't forget O.J....... Justice for John O'Keefe
@@TRACE317 exactly!
Lally and his 'whatever it was' and dumb questions DID nothing to prove that the reconstruction was not correctly done. Not to mention the defense reconstruction was far better than the prosecution. AT LEAST THEY DID TESTS!
But what about "stuff?" Did they do the "stuff?" Because I swear that I remember Trooper "p=mv" Paul talking about "stuff."
@@phoenixshade3 yeah he was a real sharp one wasn’t he?
They weren’t corrupt either
@@phoenixshade3lol
I love how the first accident reconstruction expert communicates. Lally should go home tonight and reconsider his profession.
Defense wins ! She innocent !😊
I wouldn't say she is innocent, but certainly not guilty.
@@Floridafanatic28 OK,then you’re not really saying anything?
Glad she set a time limit on closing arguments. Folks, my bet is verdict by Wednesday at noon if that long. Karen Reed did not hit John.
What was the time limit she gave?
I believe she did something to him unfortunately because the investigation was done so poorly we may never know what exactly. I pray that JO gets the justice he and his family deserves.
No body on the lawn seen by over 15 guest and snowblower with headlights like spotlights.
Wow, how very bizarre and scary this trial is.
One day a woman and a man are in a relationship - tumultuos at that. Both grown people with there own issues. And!!! then a man is dead and a woman is accused of running him over.
IMO John was in some sort of altercation at the house, dog attack - judging by a number of scratches and bite marks - John was already incapacitated - otherwise he would have defended himself or ran away. I think he was beaten and attacked by the dog at the house and then thrown out on the lawn. Those people who decided to do that were VERY drunk - everybody was drunk - PROBABLY thought the John would get up and leave but John succumbed to his injuries and THE COLD of the night. In the morning when Karen started looking for John she, being perhaps still a little drunk from the night before found John and thought that she might have hit John in her drunkeness. The investigation is just horribly unprofessional and so totally corrupt.
This could happen to anyone of us and this is America. So, so very scary!
Karen is not likable, strong and smart. No one feels sorry or compassionate towards her. She is not a walkover.
And yet she seems to be innocent. The lead investigator - what a disgusting human being. Can not imagine being his wife. How very embarrassing.
🎯 I agree 💯
I agree too, with everything she said!
Agree 💯 percent
It could happen to anybody who gets drunk, really. Sober people rarely get into trouble.
Is there EVER a time when lawyers for ANY side should find it proper or necessary to speak to learned and accomplished, grown men as though they were children?
She’s Innocent 100%
They are all guilty of DUI
You think the brother of the deceased thinks the other chips were the killers?
So was OJ 😂😂
@@bobmirfin8010 I think it’s disingenuous to compare the two cases.
This case can make or break lawyers. Lally’s career is history.
I can’t get my head around that number of people being united in a set up
Yeah, when they can’t get their facts straight, they just say they can’t remember!
It DOES happen
It only takes a few ppl the rest just go along and not question.
Yes, and for so long without anyone folding. Even when the Defence has pointed the finger at Brian Albert, Brian Higgins, Colin Albert, Chloe the dog and then assisted in the cover up by Trooper Proctor, the entire MA police, the DA, the Alberts, the McCabes and people who were there that night who were unrelated to the Albert family. And not one person blew the set up.
I have no idea what really happened but I agree. I don’t think they all are covering it up. They might be totally clueless. But it is possible a few are and didn’t share the info. But in the end this whole thing is a mess and there won’t be justice.
Well...well.well...
This testamony is slowly cutting down the branch Lally is clinging on to!!!!!
I wonder who the jury thinks hired these folks if the defense did not.
I've heard the FBI
I heard that but the jury has not. I woder what they think.
@@christinab3019yes the feds hired them, but the jury is not to know the fbi is investigating the canton pd and msp, which will turn to the mcalberts as well.
Day 30 solidified the Defenses case...no way she did it!
I hope that after the no guilty verdict the zelous prosecutor will be fired from his job and no one will ever employ him.
He won't be fired. He had to put on a case after the indictment.
4:00:00 is the judge twirling her glasses at the most critical part of the entire trial. 😂😂
Way too much reasonable doubt. Shouldn’t have made it to court after the atrocious handling of forensic evidence alone!
I dont think she did it. Her terrible messages to him that night... speaks volumes.. she is so pissed at him for not comming home or answering.. she wouldnt if she knew she hit him.
Why do they have the camera on the defendant so much..and so close? That is a bit weird to me and does not seem fair.
Is this allowed?
I believe there was an altercation at the house and the son got involved. They are covering it up. All of them are guilty.
Just saying, out of all thr fights ive had with boyfriends in my lifez theyve never been missing for hours AND ive never once thought that maybe i ran him over.
How many lifez do you have? How many boyfriends do you have to fight with? SMH. Loser.
Should be a quick verdict. That’s just me. Not Guilty. Just based on the evidence or lack there of. RIP Mr OKeefe.
I have the highest respect for this distinguished Dr., however he has me GASPING FOR MY BREATH .
I guess if he did throw a glass at tbe back of her car, she ma😢y not have known what that was. That would explain why she panicked and wondered if she hit him. So many unanswered questions.
I said exactly the same thing!
The prosecution could not find any witnesses that even came close in professional experience to one of the defense witnesses.
Someone must have alerted Paul O Keefe to all the crotch shots when Karen is on camera based on where he sits. 😂 He is now keeping his hands in that area.
Hopefully Paul is paying attention and not just staring at Karen anymore!
This man has lost so many family members and has sat through weeks of this trial about the death of his own brother. No need to be so rude.
Defense rests!
I say Karen is not guilty 💯
Finally!!!! Lally tried at the end but got nowhere, it's all over, dear Karen will be rich and free!
I heard another lawyer on you tube say she could not sue. I donot know.
Hopefully she gets punished in the next life.
@@nadinenc3097There's as little evidence of a next life as there is of Karen's guilt.
@@nadinenc3097punished for what? How can a tail light don’t that damage? You know the world has truly gone mad when they try and pass this off
@@kathybates1751 you can sue anybody you want… doesn’t mean you’ll win!
She can sue for wrongful prosecution. She can go after the witnesses that lied for liable. I just hope the FBI investigates this case to find out what really happened to John !
Finally some math and science!! . "I can pull out my calculator.." Kinetics! Then Lally comes into cross with things and things. Trp Paul jargon
Maybe Karen’s Dad has connections with the government or someone in the FBI. This guy is weird
Lally looked so bored during the pathologist’s testimony 😂
Now he knows how the majority of us felt during every single one of his witness questioning and cross 😳
Prosecution. "Objection" Judge. " Sustain" CONSTANTLY!!
Defence asking objectionable questions constantly
How the jury has NOT come back yet is beyond me. Like did we witness the same trial?
I dont think even Lally is swallowing his own fairy tales at this point. Julie Grant, however, sure!
So many questions left unanswered. DNA is pretty clear.
A hair ? What dna is not sketchy and questionable ?
@@whatareuthinking1not just a hair. His DNA in her taillight. Lol.
@@stevenprice6957no...just a hair sitting loosely on the bumper. Nothing in the tail light actually. You clearly haven't been watching the trial
@stevenprice6957 dna. Not blood. That was made apparent today. Also not on the plastic pieces, but housing. If any of the broken tail lights had scratched him, there would be blood.
@@stevenprice6957and the clown show state police and canton police had the dna and the tail light. If you’re trusting anything they did at this point your judgment is questionable
So glad they didn't open the crypt and drag Dr. Baden into court. Ugh.
😂 He seriously needs to stop. He was terrible a couple weeks ago. It was painful to watch.
Cracked tail light or BROKEN tail light ? Theres a huge difference.
That's just for starters. You can run around with a cracked tail light for 15 years. Somebody busted that tail light up my two cents
Where did the defense get these witness’s they are terrible
Is this sarcasm?
I don't like the way the bald guy is glaring at Karen, it seems menacing and intimidating. She is a witness after-all and he is crossing a line.
I think he doesn't want to see the about what really happened to John, he can't face the truth, his psyche can't handle knowing his "brother's and sister's" have done something to John to cause John's demise and it was very ugly, hateful and far from loving. One day he will have to face reality and he'll regret staring down, harassing and intimidating Karen. Karen is innocent.
I’m pretty sure you’re talking about John’s brother?? It’s not the Albert’s family member
Poll. Like if not guilty.
I want to see the sweatshirt! Karen Read is def guilty
Have you been paying attention? There’s no evidence she said it. That’s been made very clear
Which sweatshirt? The one with puncture holes in the right arm?
Another family member, perhaps. The damage to that car would not kill a dog, let alone a human being.
Karen is INNOCENT!!! Now lets see who killed John. I say Collin. I want to see lots of arrests and follow ups after this is over!
From your post to God‘s ears or the FBI ears!
His Uncle Brian too
Cross was excellent today.
I object. I object the objection. Objection. Objection. Objection. 😂
Well Lally 8f you don't think the LE handed everything over to the FEDS you should have asked them.
Dr.Rentshler is excellent!!!!
I noticed that John’s brother isn’t giving Karen the death stare today…. thinking he’s starting to figure out that others were involved in his brothers murder😮
Fbi don't investigate normal manslaughter. They knew something was off and hired professionals to prove it
100 percent NOT GUILTY
Why is this judge constantly helping Lally?
She helps them both
@@AmyMcLaughlin-xy3pe I haven’t really seen her help the defense that much. She’s interfering way way too much.
The prosecutor is an unethical state employee to my opinion and if i was his boss i would discharge him
Not his fault, rumor has it he had no choice.
Lally was asking questions that were totally irrelevant to their testing.
Somebody with common sense would say 24 miles backing up in reverse. She should’ve been a race car driver that is difficult to do especially going so many feet that they said she went that’s impossible. She would’ve got hurt.
I agree, not one person who has commented on this trail has ever tried to go 25 mph in reverse and control the vehicle.
In cross of Dr Frank, I can't help but imagine the items found on John's body were planted, the prior evidence proves John's injuries are not consistent with Karen's car hitting John, so what ever was found on John's body had to have been planted.
Karen is still innocent Atty Lally.