I think the writers wanted to portray the robot immortal characters as complicated and deep by showing that they're not single-handedly focused on solving slavery and have their stuff going on but it just backfires.
I remember watching the trailer for this at Anime Expo and getting so hyped, just be realize that it's another one of those "good premise" but the author suffered a writer's block and decides to use "random bullshit go" for the rest of the season to make deadlines... we all got baited.
@@karu If that's true, then it would probably explain why there are so many plot twists in such a short time. They were probably supposed to be introduced more slowly and fleshed out, but the length got halved and the writers had no idea what to do.
I think some of the biggest problems with Metallic Rouge is that it went nowhere with what it was trying to tell, also that it was an anniversary anime for the whole studio and they screw it up which is sad because Bones had a decent track record with some mecha stuff and most importantly the other mecha show that was airing around it release Bang brave bang Bravern was something it couldn't compete agaisnt
Isn't Eureka Seven the only major mecha series made by Bones? I don't know if your referring to sci-fi shows with hi-tech armors. I mean, Bones was founded by many of the staff that worked on Cowboy Bebop and Escaflowne at Sunrise
@@pablocasas5906 Well there's also Captain Earth and others i don't remember well but still like you pointed out they have experience with sci-fi soo seeing them do basically nothing with Metallic Rouge is heartbroking
I'd also like to add that the dub, specifically the Latin American Spanish version is the one I watched, was pretty good, with Rouge being voiced by the same VA who voiced Abby in Great Pretender and Amber in Invincible, while Naomi being voiced by the VA who voiced Kiruko in Heavenly Delusion and Karuko Tenkawa/Magia Sulfur in Mahō Shōjo ni Akogarete
@@Xanegoh generic exploitation doesn't explain why they f#* up the ending, i mean one of them dragged an arc for multiple volumes then rushed a terrible ending because he was tired of writing comedy manga.
Making original anime is always a huge risk, most of the most popular original anime like Cowboy Bebop, Code Geass and Tiger & Bunny, which were all made by Sunrise, had the benefit of having a lot of merchandise attached to the show, I think the same thing applies to all Gundam series, but Gundam is a franchise on its own. Even some of Studio Ghibli films are based on books
I don't think super suit robots counts as mecha. That's more henshin hero genre. Hell we even got an actual mecha anime in the same season with Bravern.
@@FireFury190yeah, it's more in the vein of series like Guyver. Kinda of like a henshin-hero show like Kamen Rider, but in animated form, not precisely a mecha show But yeah, it's a shame that such great armor designs done in 2D doesn't have a good story
Super Robot will never get good anymore. Real Robot is the future and I thanked Tomino & Gundam so much for this greatest gift!!!!!! 😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤
Nevertheless, I really enjoyed The witch and the beast. Loved the setting, art style and characters. Will continue with the manga. edit: The manga has phenomenal art. The only good thing I can say about Metallic Rouge is that the OP is a banger.
The witch and the beast has probably my most favorite explanation of necromancy i've seen in a fantasy world in anime. The fact that you can bring someone from the dead but have constantly maintain their body to behave in a sentient way otherwise they'll become a zombie.
@@aryabratsahoo7474True. Who would've thought that 2 episodes not featuring the main leads following a different plot would be even better than the rest of the show.
I feel like they wanted too much but had too little time and didn't want to compromise on any ideas so they just bullshited a lot of stuff that would have made sense if the show went on for longer and had time to explain. Same thing happened to darling in the franxx I think.
You know how people sometimes complain about Marvel having characters who are objectively correct in ideology, but then they like, bomb an orphanage or something so they're the bad guys? It sounds like they did this. Like it reminds me of that Scales movie that Danny Gonzalez reviewed where it's like "oh yeah mermaids can cure any disease, even incurable chronic ones" and they just stay in the ocean and you're supposed to think they're the good guys. Like, when you mentioned the one guy seeing the harsh conditions and believing death to be the freedom, i think thats an interesting idea to use, but like, all the other characters need to have a similar thing going on for me to believe the protagonist DOESN'T want to stop the slavery business. Like, that's actually pretty down to earth to agree with the basic goal, but not trust the people on an ideological level because of their philosophies they hold. It happens all the time in real life.
Good ideals, bad ideals, good choices, bad decisions. I think it just makes them human. We tend to ignore issues with society, in favour for dealing with our own. People lately have been getting upset with countries helping others instead of worrying about their own, and vice versa. “People are dying out there” while your own children are going hungry. Yet what are you more focused on. People are working jobs barely able to pay a monthly lease, ontop of everything else, yet others are shouting that some company is corrupt and has to be dealt with. Or like you brought up marvel, magneto for example terrorizing society in the name of mutants, yet doing more damage to his own society. Or you have some child who could potentially remake the universe, but all they are focused on is getting through school.… Darth Vader, wanting to end slavery, but chooses to enslave a whole galaxy.
At least I was interested enough to watch The Witch and The Beast till end and the manga is immaculate art wise. Metallic Rouge other hand i dropped after ep 9, it had 2 good opening episodes and the rest was either 'meh' or 'ehh?!'. The OP, ED and the insert song were great though in my opinion, still listen to them every once in a while
Random unrelated comment: Yknow all the isekais where the mc wakes up with a 16 yr old body that looks similar to his original body. Is there a manga or whatever that shows the life of the original owners before the swap. There could even have a character that is supposed to swap with a truck-kunned teenager but somehow manages to not swap and instead tries to understand what causes isekais to happen. Would be a cool idea, i hope its already been made
@@wpelfeta didn't explain this but i feel like the swap should be like an out of body experience thingy, where the original body owner is looking at his own body and they must do something like remove the isekaid person from his body to prevent the swap. This could in turn make the isekaid person take the body of someone else instead - possible someone dear to the original body owner (like a friend of family member) which could motivate him to discover the truth of isekais and find a way to get his loved one back
Key: original body = Ob (from the isekai world) and main character = Mc (from earth) Tldr: Ob removes Mc from body in some out of body shit, Mc takes the body of a family member instead. Ob tries to find the truth of isekais to get them back.
@@brofister9682 To be honest I think that the world building was decent and gave room to a lot of posibilities, but maybe if they tried a more contained approach and make the story focus in a single well done ark while the rest of the world goes on its own, we would have a brand new big franchise in our hand instead of a failed experiment, they make a story with a big world building behind (wars, aliens, androids, morals) too dependant of few characters and rushed like 5 story arks in few episodes it proved to be fatal.
Making a story based on that already means you messed up. It's enough for this "robots are slaves and want to be free" BS. We don't need that in anime, there's enough Western stuff like this.
I think The Witch and the Beast was phenomenal. The manga is also incredible. But regarding Metallic Rouge it had sooo much potential the art was spectacular IMO, but they fumbled so hard with the plot. I didn't even know what I was watching after Ep.7/8 Also something I think you (or I) missunderstood is the fact, that the blue haired Rouge clone is also part of the immortal 9.
Gotta hate it when a really nice production goes to waste on a mid-at-best show, even worse when it had potential, it's also been pretty common this year like why?
I decided to watch it. Liked it a lot,then the puppet guy got introduced and the anime became just a bunch of half-flashbacks and weird stuff. Animation is good,though. 7/10
Ah yes, the Three Laws of Robotics. Which would never work when you think about them a bit more. 1. A robot may not injure a human being or, through inaction, allow a human being to come to harm. 2. A robot must obey orders given it by human beings except where such orders would conflict with the First Law. 3. A robot must protect its own existence as long as such protection does not conflict with the First or Second Law. Already with the first law, we have the whole robot may not injure a human, or through inaction allow a human to come to harm. But by action they might harm a human, but the harm they would do is less than the harm it would cause if inaction happens. It contradicts itself, this would literally cause a error loop, because they *have* to harm humans to save them from other harms. Second law, obey orders that doesn't conflict with law 1. So if I live on the 15th floor of an apartment complex, and I order the robot to open the window and remove the bars, which is barred for safety of course. They have no choice than to do that. However, the Inaction will lead to no harm done to me, but the action allows me to harm myself, again will run into a error loop. Third law, well it can never be done, because if they try to protect themselves against any human, then they will have to harm the human to protect themselves. Which they can't. Oh look another error loop happens. Many stories set with these laws in mind, don't think of the complexity of the actual words used. On a surface level, they sound good and firm, but ultimately they fail, because they can't work together, nor can they work on their own either. They need huge descriptions to exactly understand what *Harm* in this case means, since it is a broad term, which Robotics *can't* have. They need to have a understanding on what harm they can do if there is no other way of doing it. I.E injecting medicine, the Needle will cause Harm, but not injecting the medicine will cause more harm. But by the first law, this is a null void point, since a resolution can't be made. Thus a depiction and definition of what kinds of harms they are allowed to do, compared to the ones not, is a requirement.
unironically when i was watching this I felt like it was a chore. Like "yeah sure the idea is cool enough and I saw some funny clips of it so why not". Nothing you said when describing the plot was wrong, from what I remember it makes sense but when you mentioned Aes's hypocrisy in fighting Rouge I realized I entirely forgot that happened because i just didn't care anymore because nothing made sense. When Naomi was revealed to be the ambassador, origin nean, whatever the hell, I just DIDN'T CARE because it kept pulling out so many damn plot twists. It reminded me of a Sci-Fi book called Cinder, based on Cinderella, that similarly kept pulling out bullshit plot twits so much that I just stopped caring and hated the book. it was always just: ->start watching episode >the feck >sure i guess that makes an iota of sense >end episode >forget 90% of what happened immediately >okay time to watch an episode of something else that released this season good idea, it started being absolute bs fast
I sorta liked the alien war reveal. The idea that the androids were created by indifferent aliens and given to humans as a military trade. And that the android rebellion we see in the plot was actually instigated and manipulated by another alien faction using the androids to wage a proxy war. If executed right it could be interesting commentary on how inscrutable factions exploit and use people like chess pieces against each other. And a commentary on how easy it is for a justified revolution to get co-opted by malicious parties and create a pointless cycle of violence. It wasn't executed well, and the story was already over bloated by fifty other pointless plot twists and melodrama, but this show could've been saved by another revision in the writer's room.
I mean in perspective the plot is interesting: The neans are slaves but sentient and sensible beings (are more than capable of feel emotions and suffer) but are really important for humans and human's overlords as work force and shock force against the other aliens which are enemies with those who "work" with humans (the plot goes kinda ballistic from the get go here but I don't mind ambition), also humans themselves are kinda subjugated to the super advance aliens, I mean there is a "treaty" but humans pretty much obey the "good" aliens in order to receive technology and defend themselves against the "evil" aliens, so humans are totally dependant on the "good" aliens, even if the evil aliens themselves are there because of the "good" aliens to begin with, I mean the relationship between humans and "good" aliens is an entire plot on its own. There are several proto neans "inmortals" which are not subject to the same limitation as the others androids the "asimov law" and are really powerful, like walking weapons of mass destruction, however the mayority of them are too human like for their own good and preffer to do their own shit as humans do. Funnily enough they don't have a good reason to help their own kind, to be honest, because in reality the mayority of them didn't know that they could break the asimov code with their cores, also inmortals were dependant on human society to get the drug as other neans and on the other hand some (like the black power ranger) even knew that the main deterrent for "evil" aliens to don't invade again is the fact that humans and "good" aliens have a big army of powerful androids, however the "evil" aliens are conspiring behind the scenes with a human to lift the asimov law (one of the creator of the inmortals) in order to cause chaos and let humans and "good" aliens open to attack (I mean the evil aliens because the mad scientist only wants to feed his ambition). So the plot in rough lines is pretty good, I mean it has its typical cliches and plot holes, but they had all to explore the meaning of freedom, social order vs freedom (they in fact, tried to explore this point but failed miserably), the lights and shadows of human morality, but in general it gave fertile land (world building) to develop a good story, however the executions was f@cking terrible, because, they have a WB so big, but its development was totally dependant of few characters which is a fatal error if you want your world to feel big and boundless (Gundam does this decently well the story of the world keeps going despite the characters) and rushing like 5 story arks in really few episodes proved to be fatal.
apparently, this anime was made by their E studio, the newest studio, led by Makoto Watanabe and mainly known for the Eureka Seven: Hi-Evolution trilogy
Yeah, I had feeling something was off from ep 1, but I wanted to stick around due to the influences from tokusatsu (aka Power Rangers/Super Sentai, Kamen Rider, etc.). Probably a mistake seeing how convoluted the plot became. TBH, I'd suggest to watch Vivy: Fluorite Eye's Song if you want to see a well-executed, emotionally-gripping story about the same things Metallic Rouge failed to address.
i felt something was odd the moment we got its battle song in ep 1, its . . . . . to good, it sounds like a song that should be reserved for something special, like something that as been built up to for a huge part of the story, like when the mc has finally grown or become the hero they weren't until now. you know what i mean? it feels inappropriate for just the "we fight now" music
@@rubixn00b71 I think I was okay with the song, but I can see where you're coming from and I can agree with you. My main issue with the fight in ep 1 was the lack of proper build up and characterizations. To also have a great song for a rather "eh" fight (in terms of story and characterization, despite the nice animation) was out of place.
It's always hard for me to get in to these sorts of stories, as I really dislike the 'robots as slaves' trope. There's no reason to build a sapient robot just to limit it's freewill. You could just build a robot that wasn't sapient. The entire thing falls apart from the beginning unless you accept that humans deliberately built a group of people just to mistreat and enslave them.
Even then- it is hard to sympathize with ‘sentient’ robots when they literally are MADE and PROGRAMMEd to serve. And that they lack the biological needs to heal, rest, eat, and socialize.
what you’re saying makes perfect sense but i disagree. It’s hard for me to explain it, my english is kinda limited so i’ll put it this way: 1. Humanity makes AI 2. Humanity decides to make them Sapient, because it’s one of our goals to create artificial Life. 3. Not everyone likes AI, in fact many hate it. 4. AI gets mistreated as a result, despite being sapient 5. they can’t just decide to destroy all AI that is sapient I don’t speak about this Anime, but about these type of stories.
I just realized after watching your video that I barely remember anything from this show and I definitely finished it. That shows how bad it was. The OP and ED were slap, though.
The yellow Immortal was so generically crazy. Like, i watched Gigguk's recent video at the time where he went through some anime tropes and that he said the quickest way to know someone is crazy is just laughing like a dumbass. Cut to Joker's proper introduction, annnnnd he's laughing like a dumbass
I remember this anime got hyped here & there alongside Bravern, many Mecha Fans said "We're so back!", but funnily enough i only saw people talked about Bravern & SEED Freedom, but never this anime to the point that i even forgot that this anime exist..... So this is why.....
they should take notes on how edgerunners did the cyberpsychosis thingy and implement it with the nectar, like i felt the show really hit the mark with creating a unique problem for the society for the world building but lacked the proper execution to actually make the world building really good/interesting.
This honestly seems on brand with Bones. If you look at their track record, anything that isn't an adaptation (or og Eureka Seven) is bound to fumble the story so hard. I've watched plenty of other original shows from Studio Bones, from Rahxephon, to Kurau Phantom Memory, to the many E7 clones, and pretty much all fall short of being truly great. There's a lot of good ideas but poor execution. They all have this overly ambitious feel that ultimately can't meet these high expectations.
It's kind of ironic that Bones was founded by former employees of Studio Sunrise who worked in series like Gundam X, Escaflowne and Cowboy Bebop, because they wanted to tell original stories, aside from working in manga adaptations, but most of their original anime seem to try to recapture the success of Cowboy Bebop and Eureka Seven draws a lot of things from Gundam X
And if their anime original is amazing, they ruin it with a terrible sequel. Eureka 7 and Darker than Black were two of Bones' best anime originals, only to crash and burn the moment a second season came out.
And this is why we get very few original anime... If you haven't written it trough completely before starting production, don't start the production. If you are given 24 episodes, and suddenly are cut short, then just end on a cliffhanger and hope that you get the rest you needed, don't try to shove it in shorter time than planned... And to whom ever cut the anime shorter: eat shit! :(
Yes, making original anime is always a huge gamble, that's why most of them have at least some backing in the form of merchandise. The anime made by Sunrise are good exapmples, like Code Geass, which had a ton of re-writes and had to tell a its first season story in 25 episodes when they director originally wanted 50 like Gundam SEED, but they succeeded against all odds.
Metallic Rouge definitely fumbled the ball, that's the unfortunate truth. Trying to tell this kind of story in a seasonal 13 episode limit was never going to pan out. They could have at least given it the Back Arrow treatment and given it DOUBLE the episode count to flesh out the story a bit more and give it time to breathe. My solution? (And this likely wouldn't happen due to the poor ratings) Throw it into a Super Robot Wars game. The series is already out in the ether, for better or worse. But SRW has a history of "fixing" plots and writing decisions for both story and character development. Like every time they use Evangelion, they give Shinji a healthy support system with characters like Koji Kabuto from Mazinger Z to make him a more rounded out human being who actually has confidence in himself as a pilot and just... As a person. It would also give us more of a chance to explore the alien war going on if you have the interactions with other space opera mech series.
3:10 Ah, yes, the "beat the sh!t out of people" reasoning approach. Always works in KH! 8:00 omg, I can't believe you put that one song there lol Dude just doxxed his own age
I watched this anime shortly after watching Pluto and this is the biggest downgrade to a cool concept that I've ever seen. They literally have the same plot (9 super robots are being hunted down in a world where racial tensions between humans and robots are at an all time high). Heck, even Vivy: Fluorite Eye's Song was way more cohesive despite being a bit more convoluted by including time-travel shenanigans. I'd recommend watching those instead of this garbage.
I just gotta say, man I loved Witch and The Beast. Sure, animation got really iffy at moments, but I fell in love with that bizzare world and its characters.
I remember watching the first few episodes since I had this on my give it a shot list. Bones, great visuals, and a great premise? I should e loved it! I fell asleep after episode 2, I was disappointed.
I need to thks you for make me free of watch this anime ending, i already feel something wierd in that story from that circus cap and you confirm my worst fears about that story with your video about where was going all, so thks buddy for taking that bullet for me and the boys 😌👍🏼✨💻👍🏼✨
Dear god I remember nearly every news site in my feed talking my ear off about this anime and it annoying me so much. I only wanted to watch one series out of all the shows playing on the Winter 2024 line up, and this damn show kept shoving itself in my face. It was probably a blessing in disguise though.
I recommend Unwanted undead adventure, gives off Frieren vibes and just very chill fantasy anime. It’s NOT an isekai but a cool little fantasy anime that I hope gets a second season. It was my second or third anime of the season. It certainly has Best story of the season. Its manga hasn’t been out for too long though it only had 60 chapters when the season ended I think.
Just tossing out my ideas for potentially improving the story Perhaps have it be that there is a central computer that acts like a cloud hub for all the androids. When they die their data is transferred back to this hub and held before being distributed into a new body. This hub is responsible for instilling Asimov’s code into them but no one can gain access to its control systems. The immortal 9 are unique because their father managed to create miniaturized versions of this hub in the form of the 9 cores. The 9 are free from the laws because they aren’t connected to the system and are instead stored within their cores. If their body dies they can be revived by putting their core into a new body, even if it’s one owned by another Android who they’d basically overwrite and delete from existence unintentionally since it’d happen automatically. Which would have coarse cause tension at some point. Their cores together can be used to arrest control from the main tower and remove Azimov’s code from the rest, however their core has to be removed and plugged into the tower for this. Conflict arises among the 9 because they don’t know what’ll happen to them when they do this. Will they be able to have their cores removed and placed back in their bodies or will their cores be permanently part of the tower? If it becomes part of it will they put in new bodies like the rest of the androids? Will they be stuck as data just observing the world around from the tower’s systems, unable to interact? Will they perish entirely? Could the end up stuck in their core all alone with no external stimuli like how it is when their body dies but this time for as long as the tower exists? Besides just worrying about what the other’s might do with their freedom this dread of the unknown drives even those who have mutual morals from being unanimous.
I think the writers wanted to portray the robot immortal characters as complicated and deep by showing that they're not single-handedly focused on solving slavery and have their stuff going on but it just backfires.
imagine not being single-handedly focused on solving slavery
@@karu hahaha
@@karu xD 7:07
I mean va11halla can make the robot characters literally be very sapient with how they do their daily lives
@@skullbash8862 Dam the caught in 4k
I remember watching the trailer for this at Anime Expo and getting so hyped, just be realize that it's another one of those "good premise" but the author suffered a writer's block and decides to use "random bullshit go" for the rest of the season to make deadlines... we all got baited.
people on reddit say that they were supposed to make it 24 eps but they were cut short. Either way, a tragedy
@@karu If that's true, then it would probably explain why there are so many plot twists in such a short time. They were probably supposed to be introduced more slowly and fleshed out, but the length got halved and the writers had no idea what to do.
@@karu yeah, every episode felt like it should've been two...
@@karuDefinitely feel people are being too harsh on it, the final result wasn't great but it wasn't just wasted potential it was killed potential
Yeah, this remind me to Witch of Mercury. Seriously wasted potentials
Bro cooked the story so quick 😂
Imagine planning to make a *5 dishes but your best cooking is burnt overeasy egg to charcoal.
This is why slow pace yet good story is a must.
Can be hard to do on 12 eps
@@RaginCanadian-gx2zl then do it in 24
@@DameOfDiamonds thatd be great if you could just choose how many episodes you want. But the business doesnt work like that.
@@RaginCanadian-gx2zl then don't do it
@@kevinplayz7965 business. Doesnt. Work. Like. That. Studios cant dictate the episode count, its a ton of factors.
naw, Sakamoto Days DID NOT miss out on a Studio Bones adaptation for this 😭
Tms better do a good job😭😭
Sakamoto Days fans RISE UP
SD is trash anyway.
I'm 100% convinced that Bones is the Japanese equivalent of Dreamworks in terms of consistency in the quality of its shows/movies.
DreamWorks has a lot of miss and hit movie but when they have a hit Its a homerun, they REALLY hit it.
That's a lot of studios
This hits different because it was a celebration though
The animation studio usually doesn’t write the story
I would argue that's trigger. They either drop a masterpiece or garbage. Bones is consistent tbh
This is a huge insult to Bones
I think some of the biggest problems with Metallic Rouge is that it went nowhere with what it was trying to tell, also that it was an anniversary anime for the whole studio and they screw it up which is sad because Bones had a decent track record with some mecha stuff and most importantly the other mecha show that was airing around it release Bang brave bang Bravern was something it couldn't compete agaisnt
Isn't Eureka Seven the only major mecha series made by Bones? I don't know if your referring to sci-fi shows with hi-tech armors. I mean, Bones was founded by many of the staff that worked on Cowboy Bebop and Escaflowne at Sunrise
@@pablocasas5906 Well there's also Captain Earth and others i don't remember well but still like you pointed out they have experience with sci-fi soo seeing them do basically nothing with Metallic Rouge is heartbroking
@@pablocasas5906 I didn't much like Eureka. I guess it's understandable I wouldn't like this.
Good staff, anime original and a cool ost. An absolute fumble and the ending lol
fumbled it so bad i had to step in
I'd also like to add that the dub, specifically the Latin American Spanish version is the one I watched, was pretty good, with Rouge being voiced by the same VA who voiced Abby in Great Pretender and Amber in Invincible, while Naomi being voiced by the VA who voiced Kiruko in Heavenly Delusion and Karuko Tenkawa/Magia Sulfur in Mahō Shōjo ni Akogarete
Wonder egg priority enters the chat
This is a common thing for a lot original anime, seems like studios need a manga writer to write the story first for it to be good.
Unless you are Kyoani.
The problem is that if you tell a manga artist to write a finale their bloods comes out of their ears and they spontaneusly combust.
@@massgunner4152 nah, that's only because the industry forces them to continually pump out chapters.
@@Xanegoh generic exploitation doesn't explain why they f#* up the ending, i mean one of them dragged an arc for multiple volumes then rushed a terrible ending because he was tired of writing comedy manga.
Making original anime is always a huge risk, most of the most popular original anime like Cowboy Bebop, Code Geass and Tiger & Bunny, which were all made by Sunrise, had the benefit of having a lot of merchandise attached to the show, I think the same thing applies to all Gundam series, but Gundam is a franchise on its own. Even some of Studio Ghibli films are based on books
"oh look a mecha anime from the modern day that isnt real robot OR shitty cgi. "
"oh no the story is terrible"
i hate that cliche
I don't think super suit robots counts as mecha. That's more henshin hero genre. Hell we even got an actual mecha anime in the same season with Bravern.
@@FireFury190 their designs are just scaled down EVA units. at this point i'll take what I can get.
@@FireFury190yeah, it's more in the vein of series like Guyver. Kinda of like a henshin-hero show like Kamen Rider, but in animated form, not precisely a mecha show
But yeah, it's a shame that such great armor designs done in 2D doesn't have a good story
Super Robot will never get good anymore. Real Robot is the future and I thanked Tomino & Gundam so much for this greatest gift!!!!!! 😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤
Or the other way around, like ninja kamui
Nevertheless, I really enjoyed The witch and the beast. Loved the setting, art style and characters. Will continue with the manga. edit: The manga has phenomenal art.
The only good thing I can say about Metallic Rouge is that the OP is a banger.
Also the insert song ' Crimson Lightning ' that was good too
happy you enjoyed it! makes me look good too
Same here, I liked that one.
The witch and the beast has probably my most favorite explanation of necromancy i've seen in a fantasy world in anime. The fact that you can bring someone from the dead but have constantly maintain their body to behave in a sentient way otherwise they'll become a zombie.
@@aryabratsahoo7474True. Who would've thought that 2 episodes not featuring the main leads following a different plot would be even better than the rest of the show.
I feel like they wanted too much but had too little time and didn't want to compromise on any ideas so they just bullshited a lot of stuff that would have made sense if the show went on for longer and had time to explain. Same thing happened to darling in the franxx I think.
Yeah, but Franxx is also blatant pro-natalism propaganda.
You know how people sometimes complain about Marvel having characters who are objectively correct in ideology, but then they like, bomb an orphanage or something so they're the bad guys?
It sounds like they did this. Like it reminds me of that Scales movie that Danny Gonzalez reviewed where it's like "oh yeah mermaids can cure any disease, even incurable chronic ones" and they just stay in the ocean and you're supposed to think they're the good guys.
Like, when you mentioned the one guy seeing the harsh conditions and believing death to be the freedom, i think thats an interesting idea to use, but like, all the other characters need to have a similar thing going on for me to believe the protagonist DOESN'T want to stop the slavery business.
Like, that's actually pretty down to earth to agree with the basic goal, but not trust the people on an ideological level because of their philosophies they hold. It happens all the time in real life.
Good ideals, bad ideals, good choices, bad decisions. I think it just makes them human. We tend to ignore issues with society, in favour for dealing with our own. People lately have been getting upset with countries helping others instead of worrying about their own, and vice versa. “People are dying out there” while your own children are going hungry. Yet what are you more focused on. People are working jobs barely able to pay a monthly lease, ontop of everything else, yet others are shouting that some company is corrupt and has to be dealt with. Or like you brought up marvel, magneto for example terrorizing society in the name of mutants, yet doing more damage to his own society. Or you have some child who could potentially remake the universe, but all they are focused on is getting through school.… Darth Vader, wanting to end slavery, but chooses to enslave a whole galaxy.
At least I was interested enough to watch The Witch and The Beast till end and the manga is immaculate art wise. Metallic Rouge other hand i dropped after ep 9, it had 2 good opening episodes and the rest was either 'meh' or 'ehh?!'.
The OP, ED and the insert song were great though in my opinion, still listen to them every once in a while
it still brought us some good in the end. Crimson Lightning is a banger
I actually like The Witch and the Beast. Was it amazing? No. Did I have fun? yeah mostly.
hearing you sum up the idea of the story makes it so sad knowing the writing is ass 😭
My glorious king, Karu, returns.
i've come
@Sethio_0 i've come
He has come y'all
stop willy polishing
Random unrelated comment:
Yknow all the isekais where the mc wakes up with a 16 yr old body that looks similar to his original body. Is there a manga or whatever that shows the life of the original owners before the swap. There could even have a character that is supposed to swap with a truck-kunned teenager but somehow manages to not swap and instead tries to understand what causes isekais to happen.
Would be a cool idea, i hope its already been made
I don't get it. If you don't swap then there's no isekai. How would you know you were supposed to swap?
@@wpelfeta didn't explain this but i feel like the swap should be like an out of body experience thingy, where the original body owner is looking at his own body and they must do something like remove the isekaid person from his body to prevent the swap. This could in turn make the isekaid person take the body of someone else instead - possible someone dear to the original body owner (like a friend of family member) which could motivate him to discover the truth of isekais and find a way to get his loved one back
Key: original body = Ob (from the isekai world) and main character = Mc (from earth)
Tldr: Ob removes Mc from body in some out of body shit, Mc takes the body of a family member instead. Ob tries to find the truth of isekais to get them back.
lol prob not
lord of the mysteries pretty much.
Try looking at manhua, manhwa and light novels.
so basicallyt a dumbed down version of og bladerunner mixed with detroit become human?, how do you mess that up?
rushing the shit out of it
@@animeturnMMD nah not even needed to rush it, when the writing us subpar
@@brofister9682 To be honest I think that the world building was decent and gave room to a lot of posibilities, but maybe if they tried a more contained approach and make the story focus in a single well done ark while the rest of the world goes on its own, we would have a brand new big franchise in our hand instead of a failed experiment, they make a story with a big world building behind (wars, aliens, androids, morals) too dependant of few characters and rushed like 5 story arks in few episodes it proved to be fatal.
Making a story based on that already means you messed up. It's enough for this "robots are slaves and want to be free" BS. We don't need that in anime, there's enough Western stuff like this.
gotta love detroit become human the anime
I love that you actually took the time to propose something more interesting plot-wise. I also do it myself 😅
6:18 that "Watch me cook" line was absolute fire 🔥🔥
I think The Witch and the Beast was phenomenal. The manga is also incredible.
But regarding Metallic Rouge it had sooo much potential the art was spectacular IMO, but they fumbled so hard with the plot. I didn't even know what I was watching after Ep.7/8
Also something I think you (or I) missunderstood is the fact, that the blue haired Rouge clone is also part of the immortal 9.
Bro can start his own anime studio 😐👍
let's be honest, i'd only get the shitty isekais
Gotta hate it when a really nice production goes to waste on a mid-at-best show, even worse when it had potential, it's also been pretty common this year like why?
I decided to watch it. Liked it a lot,then the puppet guy got introduced and the anime became just a bunch of half-flashbacks and weird stuff.
Animation is good,though. 7/10
Ah yes, the Three Laws of Robotics. Which would never work when you think about them a bit more.
1. A robot may not injure a human being or, through inaction, allow a human being to come to harm.
2. A robot must obey orders given it by human beings except where such orders would conflict with the First Law.
3. A robot must protect its own existence as long as such protection does not conflict with the First or Second Law.
Already with the first law, we have the whole robot may not injure a human, or through inaction allow a human to come to harm.
But by action they might harm a human, but the harm they would do is less than the harm it would cause if inaction happens. It contradicts itself, this would literally cause a error loop, because they *have* to harm humans to save them from other harms.
Second law, obey orders that doesn't conflict with law 1.
So if I live on the 15th floor of an apartment complex, and I order the robot to open the window and remove the bars, which is barred for safety of course. They have no choice than to do that.
However, the Inaction will lead to no harm done to me, but the action allows me to harm myself, again will run into a error loop.
Third law, well it can never be done, because if they try to protect themselves against any human, then they will have to harm the human to protect themselves. Which they can't. Oh look another error loop happens.
Many stories set with these laws in mind, don't think of the complexity of the actual words used. On a surface level, they sound good and firm, but ultimately they fail, because they can't work together, nor can they work on their own either. They need huge descriptions to exactly understand what *Harm* in this case means, since it is a broad term, which Robotics *can't* have.
They need to have a understanding on what harm they can do if there is no other way of doing it. I.E injecting medicine, the Needle will cause Harm, but not injecting the medicine will cause more harm. But by the first law, this is a null void point, since a resolution can't be made. Thus a depiction and definition of what kinds of harms they are allowed to do, compared to the ones not, is a requirement.
The opening is a banger thou XD
all fact no lie
unironically when i was watching this I felt like it was a chore. Like "yeah sure the idea is cool enough and I saw some funny clips of it so why not".
Nothing you said when describing the plot was wrong, from what I remember it makes sense but when you mentioned Aes's hypocrisy in fighting Rouge I realized I entirely forgot that happened because i just didn't care anymore because nothing made sense.
When Naomi was revealed to be the ambassador, origin nean, whatever the hell, I just DIDN'T CARE because it kept pulling out so many damn plot twists. It reminded me of a Sci-Fi book called Cinder, based on Cinderella, that similarly kept pulling out bullshit plot twits so much that I just stopped caring and hated the book.
it was always just:
->start watching episode
>the feck
>sure i guess that makes an iota of sense
>end episode
>forget 90% of what happened immediately
>okay time to watch an episode of something else that released this season
good idea, it started being absolute bs fast
This anime's story actually reminds me of the Detroit become human game like if you don't know about that game make sure to check it out
I sorta liked the alien war reveal. The idea that the androids were created by indifferent aliens and given to humans as a military trade. And that the android rebellion we see in the plot was actually instigated and manipulated by another alien faction using the androids to wage a proxy war.
If executed right it could be interesting commentary on how inscrutable factions exploit and use people like chess pieces against each other. And a commentary on how easy it is for a justified revolution to get co-opted by malicious parties and create a pointless cycle of violence.
It wasn't executed well, and the story was already over bloated by fifty other pointless plot twists and melodrama, but this show could've been saved by another revision in the writer's room.
a justified revolution to get co-opted by malicious parties and create a pointless cycle of violence.
You're goddamn right
Wow that's exactly what G-Witch cour 2 did but G-Witch actually pulled it off 😩
I mean in perspective the plot is interesting:
The neans are slaves but sentient and sensible beings (are more than capable of feel emotions and suffer) but are really important for humans and human's overlords as work force and shock force against the other aliens which are enemies with those who "work" with humans (the plot goes kinda ballistic from the get go here but I don't mind ambition), also humans themselves are kinda subjugated to the super advance aliens, I mean there is a "treaty" but humans pretty much obey the "good" aliens in order to receive technology and defend themselves against the "evil" aliens, so humans are totally dependant on the "good" aliens, even if the evil aliens themselves are there because of the "good" aliens to begin with, I mean the relationship between humans and "good" aliens is an entire plot on its own.
There are several proto neans "inmortals" which are not subject to the same limitation as the others androids the "asimov law" and are really powerful, like walking weapons of mass destruction, however the mayority of them are too human like for their own good and preffer to do their own shit as humans do. Funnily enough they don't have a good reason to help their own kind, to be honest, because in reality the mayority of them didn't know that they could break the asimov code with their cores, also inmortals were dependant on human society to get the drug as other neans and on the other hand some (like the black power ranger) even knew that the main deterrent for "evil" aliens to don't invade again is the fact that humans and "good" aliens have a big army of powerful androids, however the "evil" aliens are conspiring behind the scenes with a human to lift the asimov law (one of the creator of the inmortals) in order to cause chaos and let humans and "good" aliens open to attack (I mean the evil aliens because the mad scientist only wants to feed his ambition).
So the plot in rough lines is pretty good, I mean it has its typical cliches and plot holes, but they had all to explore the meaning of freedom, social order vs freedom (they in fact, tried to explore this point but failed miserably), the lights and shadows of human morality, but in general it gave fertile land (world building) to develop a good story, however the executions was f@cking terrible, because, they have a WB so big, but its development was totally dependant of few characters which is a fatal error if you want your world to feel big and boundless (Gundam does this decently well the story of the world keeps going despite the characters) and rushing like 5 story arks in really few episodes proved to be fatal.
1:51 is that zoro?
Can someone find my boi zoro!?!? 😭🙏
😂😂😂 he got lost again
that history remembers me Pluto, the only diference, it is good
im pretty sure Casshern Sin was in the same ballpark and hit the emotional notes this series was trying to in places
This anime sounds like it was made by some AI robot with all the storylines lmao
definitely feels like it pulled tropes from every sci-fi genre
"Oh hey cute girl"
This is megaman with extra steps no seriously....it's just a more elaborate version of mega man's plot
yeah I was just sat there like "God this should have been a video game" until I dropped it
The rewrite at the end feels like a mix of Kill La Kill and Metal Gear Reveneagance
Wasn't mgr was about to kill a guy who was high in American spirit
apparently, this anime was made by their E studio, the newest studio, led by Makoto Watanabe and mainly known for the Eureka Seven: Hi-Evolution trilogy
Never heard of that anime
04:05 FUGA: melodies of steel ost- elegy of winds jumpscare
Thank god, also thank you.
Terrifying soundtrack
Yeah, I had feeling something was off from ep 1, but I wanted to stick around due to the influences from tokusatsu (aka Power Rangers/Super Sentai, Kamen Rider, etc.). Probably a mistake seeing how convoluted the plot became.
TBH, I'd suggest to watch Vivy: Fluorite Eye's Song if you want to see a well-executed, emotionally-gripping story about the same things Metallic Rouge failed to address.
i felt something was odd the moment we got its battle song in ep 1, its . . . . . to good, it sounds like a song that should be reserved for something special, like something that as been built up to for a huge part of the story, like when the mc has finally grown or become the hero they weren't until now. you know what i mean? it feels inappropriate for just the "we fight now" music
@@rubixn00b71 I think I was okay with the song, but I can see where you're coming from and I can agree with you. My main issue with the fight in ep 1 was the lack of proper build up and characterizations. To also have a great song for a rather "eh" fight (in terms of story and characterization, despite the nice animation) was out of place.
these robo modes be lookin like warframes ngl
your channel is a death trap bro ive been binge watching you for hours
The moment when nectar wasn't mentioned after 3 or 4 eps, I knew it was a flop.
It's always hard for me to get in to these sorts of stories, as I really dislike the 'robots as slaves' trope. There's no reason to build a sapient robot just to limit it's freewill. You could just build a robot that wasn't sapient. The entire thing falls apart from the beginning unless you accept that humans deliberately built a group of people just to mistreat and enslave them.
I fully agree. I have the exact same issues with this kind of story.
Even then- it is hard to sympathize with ‘sentient’ robots when they literally are MADE and PROGRAMMEd to serve. And that they lack the biological needs to heal, rest, eat, and socialize.
what you’re saying makes perfect sense but i disagree. It’s hard for me to explain it, my english is kinda limited so i’ll put it this way:
1. Humanity makes AI
2. Humanity decides to make them Sapient, because it’s one of our goals to create artificial Life.
3. Not everyone likes AI, in fact many hate it.
4. AI gets mistreated as a result, despite being sapient
5. they can’t just decide to destroy all AI that is sapient
I don’t speak about this Anime, but about these type of stories.
I just realized after watching your video that I barely remember anything from this show and I definitely finished it. That shows how bad it was.
The OP and ED were slap, though.
The yellow Immortal was so generically crazy.
Like, i watched Gigguk's recent video at the time where he went through some anime tropes and that he said the quickest way to know someone is crazy is just laughing like a dumbass.
Cut to Joker's proper introduction, annnnnd he's laughing like a dumbass
I remember this anime got hyped here & there alongside Bravern, many Mecha Fans said "We're so back!", but funnily enough i only saw people talked about Bravern & SEED Freedom, but never this anime to the point that i even forgot that this anime exist.....
So this is why.....
Well, the opening is just beautiful and another song Crimson lightning
Anime has good idea but bad writing 😔
they should take notes on how edgerunners did the cyberpsychosis thingy and implement it with the nectar, like i felt the show really hit the mark with creating a unique problem for the society for the world building but lacked the proper execution to actually make the world building really good/interesting.
I think the anime has a nice idea but the writing is kinda bad
Having good idea is easy but writing & implement them into a story from A to Z is an entirely different challenge. 😤😤😤😤😤😤😤
@@dibofacoseThe poster already said that
@@ccutter2 no way, Sherlock
Cooking so hard it get's overcooked 🤣🤣🤣
5:46 YO! THAT'S GARGANTUA?! A BLACK HOLE?!?!
So happy I’m not missing out on anything.
This honestly seems on brand with Bones. If you look at their track record, anything that isn't an adaptation (or og Eureka Seven) is bound to fumble the story so hard. I've watched plenty of other original shows from Studio Bones, from Rahxephon, to Kurau Phantom Memory, to the many E7 clones, and pretty much all fall short of being truly great. There's a lot of good ideas but poor execution. They all have this overly ambitious feel that ultimately can't meet these high expectations.
It's kind of ironic that Bones was founded by former employees of Studio Sunrise who worked in series like Gundam X, Escaflowne and Cowboy Bebop, because they wanted to tell original stories, aside from working in manga adaptations, but most of their original anime seem to try to recapture the success of Cowboy Bebop and Eureka Seven draws a lot of things from Gundam X
And if their anime original is amazing, they ruin it with a terrible sequel. Eureka 7 and Darker than Black were two of Bones' best anime originals, only to crash and burn the moment a second season came out.
Honestly I really liked the henshin hero transformation part, it gave the show a unique part
And this is why we get very few original anime...
If you haven't written it trough completely before starting production, don't start the production. If you are given 24 episodes, and suddenly are cut short, then just end on a cliffhanger and hope that you get the rest you needed, don't try to shove it in shorter time than planned...
And to whom ever cut the anime shorter: eat shit! :(
Yes, making original anime is always a huge gamble, that's why most of them have at least some backing in the form of merchandise. The anime made by Sunrise are good exapmples, like Code Geass, which had a ton of re-writes and had to tell a its first season story in 25 episodes when they director originally wanted 50 like Gundam SEED, but they succeeded against all odds.
0:23 When people are so brainwashed by the IGN scale they'll rate something they consider bad a 6/10
Metallic Rouge was the shovelware anime of the winter season lmao.
Your idea for how the thirteen episodes should go is really good!
So many plot twists.. What is this, an M. Night Shyamalan movie?
That Ape Escape music is low key genius considering the story line of Spectre wanting to free the apes from captivity and take over the world.
Metallic Rouge definitely fumbled the ball, that's the unfortunate truth. Trying to tell this kind of story in a seasonal 13 episode limit was never going to pan out. They could have at least given it the Back Arrow treatment and given it DOUBLE the episode count to flesh out the story a bit more and give it time to breathe.
My solution? (And this likely wouldn't happen due to the poor ratings) Throw it into a Super Robot Wars game.
The series is already out in the ether, for better or worse. But SRW has a history of "fixing" plots and writing decisions for both story and character development. Like every time they use Evangelion, they give Shinji a healthy support system with characters like Koji Kabuto from Mazinger Z to make him a more rounded out human being who actually has confidence in himself as a pilot and just... As a person.
It would also give us more of a chance to explore the alien war going on if you have the interactions with other space opera mech series.
"Crimson lightning" gave me chills I don't feel since "Don't lose your way" from klk.
way to fix it the best way is just uhh... let me google the entire plot of Deriot Become Human real quick.
Bro hearing the Magic Knight Rayearth music at the beginning just sent me on a nostalgia trip 😂
Finally he's back
LOL
I feel drawn to this for some reason before I’ve even started writing
(I’m terrible at writing and procrastinative)
3:10 Ah, yes, the "beat the sh!t out of people" reasoning approach. Always works in KH!
8:00 omg, I can't believe you put that one song there lol Dude just doxxed his own age
dont even know what this video about but from title i can already say that i 100% agree
I watched this anime shortly after watching Pluto and this is the biggest downgrade to a cool concept that I've ever seen. They literally have the same plot (9 super robots are being hunted down in a world where racial tensions between humans and robots are at an all time high). Heck, even Vivy: Fluorite Eye's Song was way more cohesive despite being a bit more convoluted by including time-travel shenanigans. I'd recommend watching those instead of this garbage.
I just gotta say, man I loved Witch and The Beast. Sure, animation got really iffy at moments, but I fell in love with that bizzare world and its characters.
3:39 "just take my nectar away" that's what she said
I watched a few of these episodes and I really need this complete breakdown so I can finally drop it from my list lol
Exactly what so genius about Carole and Tuesday with robots?
With great power, comes great laziness.
I remember watching the first few episodes since I had this on my give it a shot list. Bones, great visuals, and a great premise? I should e loved it!
I fell asleep after episode 2, I was disappointed.
The goat kagurabachi shouldve been animated instead of this 😞
my man really used the hub world music from ape escape...GOATED!
so basically full metal alchemist brotherhood in 13 episodes
Dude n now I m invested in the karu version
I need to thks you for make me free of watch this anime ending, i already feel something wierd in that story from that circus cap and you confirm my worst fears about that story with your video about where was going all, so thks buddy for taking that bullet for me and the boys 😌👍🏼✨💻👍🏼✨
2:08 I still fail to see how this is a bad f****** anime you're describing gold and I haven't even watched it yet 😮
The thumbnail looked like evangelion and I was about to come and fight
It seemed like it was gonna be a sort of megaman/gunvolt story and i was down for it, but it all fell apart halfway through
It was bones 25th anniversary...they just had a fun time weaving stories. It just a cool and great looking show
Dear god I remember nearly every news site in my feed talking my ear off about this anime and it annoying me so much. I only wanted to watch one series out of all the shows playing on the Winter 2024 line up, and this damn show kept shoving itself in my face. It was probably a blessing in disguise though.
Don't worry man, I also told my friends that ninja kamui is the anime of the season when the first episode dropped.
"Rouge's dad."
"Shocked I tell ya, I'm shocked! Never saw that coming!"
0:38 lmao😂😂😂 that gulp was too damn funny
aint no way you're not making a video of the dangers in my heart
I've never said "huh? " every 30 seconds like I did watching this
Moral of the story: Just watch Pluto. It's basically this anime except it's much much better
Thank you for trying to make it look good at the end lol.
By the end, I was wondering who WASN'T a neon
1:05 bro is Sukuna
You should make a video about genocyber
The story has so much room for interesting character motivations and perspectives! Too bad all that room was filled with BS plot-twists instead!
I recommend Unwanted undead adventure, gives off Frieren vibes and just very chill fantasy anime. It’s NOT an isekai but a cool little fantasy anime that I hope gets a second season. It was my second or third anime of the season. It certainly has Best story of the season. Its manga hasn’t been out for too long though it only had 60 chapters when the season ended I think.
Just tossing out my ideas for potentially improving the story
Perhaps have it be that there is a central computer that acts like a cloud hub for all the androids. When they die their data is transferred back to this hub and held before being distributed into a new body. This hub is responsible for instilling Asimov’s code into them but no one can gain access to its control systems. The immortal 9 are unique because their father managed to create miniaturized versions of this hub in the form of the 9 cores. The 9 are free from the laws because they aren’t connected to the system and are instead stored within their cores. If their body dies they can be revived by putting their core into a new body, even if it’s one owned by another Android who they’d basically overwrite and delete from existence unintentionally since it’d happen automatically. Which would have coarse cause tension at some point. Their cores together can be used to arrest control from the main tower and remove Azimov’s code from the rest, however their core has to be removed and plugged into the tower for this. Conflict arises among the 9 because they don’t know what’ll happen to them when they do this. Will they be able to have their cores removed and placed back in their bodies or will their cores be permanently part of the tower? If it becomes part of it will they put in new bodies like the rest of the androids? Will they be stuck as data just observing the world around from the tower’s systems, unable to interact? Will they perish entirely? Could the end up stuck in their core all alone with no external stimuli like how it is when their body dies but this time for as long as the tower exists? Besides just worrying about what the other’s might do with their freedom this dread of the unknown drives even those who have mutual morals from being unanimous.
thought the thumbnail was Issei's balance breaker for a sec there
nah bro im closing the kitchen get out