Indoor Only? Milwaukee M12 ROVER Service & Repair Flood Light with USB Charging Review 2367-20

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  • Опубликовано: 2 окт 2024
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    First, finding the right light for you can be an expensive and frustrating adventure. For some, they get lucky and find what they like right off the bat, for others, it feels like we are on a search that never ends. I am bringing to light that Milwaukee has a safety issue with using this light outdoors and I am going to assume this is an error. It is a nice light. One of my more favorite Milwaukee lights. I will not go against Milwaukee's direction and tell you to use it outdoors. I will however follow up on any communication that this video might bring my way from Milwaukee and I hope they change the owner's manual.
    The MILWAUKEE M12 ROVER Service & Repair Flood Light w/ USB Charging is a solid work light that provides flexibility in many circumstances. The light gives the user a way to focus the light on the job and still be easy on the eyes. This single switch light offers 700 lumens of light on high and 250 on low. It consumes 1 amp hour of battery on high every 2 hours, 6 hours per amp hour battery used on low.
    Unlike many other magnetic lights, the new Rover has a perfect amount of "stick" for car hoods, breaker panels, and air ducts, car lifts, and even trailers. There is a 2.1Amp USB port for charging port in this portable device. If you happen to be using it in one spot and want to attach a cable to your phone, you have that option. Otherwise, this can be used as a carry-along charger with a bonus light. :)
    As with most Milwaukee work lights, this unit is IP54 rated for dust and water resistance and is rated to survive up to 9ft. drops.
    This light rocks in many ways. For me, I need this light to work for me outdoors.
    #MilwaukeeTool #LED #Light

Комментарии • 104

  • @IMRgarage
    @IMRgarage 3 года назад +11

    Well I’ve had this light for over a month and I’ve dropped it in snow and it’s been in -20 weather zero issues yet I like it .

  • @jivdis1x
    @jivdis1x 3 года назад +11

    a way for them to void the warranty

  • @BiggMo
    @BiggMo 3 года назад +17

    That’s just the legal department creating separation from liability. Lawyers ruin everything

    • @reallyhappenings5597
      @reallyhappenings5597 2 года назад

      Have some respect for the law, it's the basis of a complex society.

  • @realworldcarpentryremodeli5868
    @realworldcarpentryremodeli5868 3 года назад +8

    Probably shouldn’t use it in the dark either.

    • @WorkshopAddict
      @WorkshopAddict  3 года назад

      LOL. That must have been deeper in the instructions and warnings.

  • @colinstu
    @colinstu 3 года назад +14

    This needs to be like $30.

    • @RobertLeBlancPhoto
      @RobertLeBlancPhoto 3 года назад

      #MilwaukeeTax

    • @TrueNomadSkies
      @TrueNomadSkies 3 года назад +1

      I've spent like 200 dollars on garbage flashlights that stopped working in the first 6-12 months, and even when they did work, rarely had enough battery life to make it through an oil change. The one I have now is bright and lasted a few years, and I got it hella on sale for 20 bucks... but its super awkward unless you're on the ground and only has about 3 hours of life on low. When it finally quits, I'm buying a brand name one for sure.

  • @LaCatHTF
    @LaCatHTF 2 года назад +7

    I dropped mine in a 5 gallon bucket full of car wash soap and water. Still works perfectly 👍🏽 I use it outdoors here in Seattle where it’s always raining! Ever since I’ve dropped in that bucket a little rain water doesn’t bother me lol I would definitely use it all day outside in the rain 👍🏽

  • @johnnewell5025
    @johnnewell5025 3 года назад +15

    I have to say that I am still completely loving this light. It is the best tool I've ever used for finding tool marks, paint "issues" and things like that on walls. It's bright. The color temp is right. It's got a very broad beam. You can get it right down on the wall and make problems pop. It fits in my hands really nicely. And even on high it runs so long I haven't really noticed when it needs a new battery. I think this is one of the most useful hand lights I've ever owned and I've been a light fan for decades. Big thumbs up.

    • @elmaromero8585
      @elmaromero8585 2 года назад

      Would it work well for drywall touch up ?

    • @johnnewell5025
      @johnnewell5025 2 года назад +1

      @@elmaromero8585 Absolutely, it would work brilliantly. Sorry, no pun intended. Get the light close to the surface of the wall and you will see ALL of the imperfections. It will be obvious where you need to sand, or fill. You can do this with other lights, but this is bright and even and a really true to color, which makes this much easier and more effective.

  • @checolinseliz5385
    @checolinseliz5385 3 года назад +9

    How many of you agree that Milwaukee needs to add a hook to not hold it in the hand, with a hook you can hang it in the work bag is my recommendation. I hope milwaukee hears suggestions. 👍🏼

    • @firstlast5139
      @firstlast5139 3 года назад +1

      Frankly after buying and using three different Milwaukee Led lights so far, not a single one had no design engineering "oops".

    • @mfill5043
      @mfill5043 2 года назад

      Grab a piece of metal, add a hook to it.
      Now just stick the light to it and you got a hook!

  • @melsmobileservices4223
    @melsmobileservices4223 3 года назад +7

    I'm a mobile mechanic so......I'm gonna use it outdoors. I don't leave my lights outside in the 🌧️ but the do get occasionally wet just not soaked. Never have a problem with any Milwaukee light except when I dropped them repeatedly. USB flood light still works but belt clip broke, magnets gone but it still work so I keep it as a backup.

  • @shanew7361
    @shanew7361 3 года назад +6

    I'm ordering and using outside. It takes a 💩 I'll return or warranty claim it. Worse case, goes in the 🗑 if it breaks. Life is short enjoy 😉😵😎

  • @rcud1
    @rcud1 3 года назад +6

    I just bought the M12 Rocket light and looks like I need this light too! Arghh

  • @AntonioClaudioMichael
    @AntonioClaudioMichael 3 года назад +1

    I have had mine for over a month I been digging it the charger on this light is defenitly slower then the m12 power source but the light by itself is a beast magnets are amazing with compact batteries as well as a 6ah battery magnets can hold light and a 6.0ah battery and a galaxy note 10+ 5g on the light no problem @WorkshopAddict

  • @madeinusa1576
    @madeinusa1576 3 года назад +6

    Yes the new tru view is a world of difference compared to their older style. Very noticeable on m18 rover. I’ll definitely be using it outside doing hvac when it’s a late night service call

  • @AntonioClaudioMichael
    @AntonioClaudioMichael 3 года назад +3

    Do not use outdoors is odd its a service and repair light i use mine out doors all the time @WorkshopAddict

  • @Danko88
    @Danko88 3 года назад +8

    love this light use it from BBQing to working on car or walking around property, great light

  • @Luigiz28
    @Luigiz28 3 года назад +5

    I love the M12 line. So many tools and for the homeowner/ DIY like myself, these tools are fantastic. I'll definitely add this light to my kit once it goes on sale. Good video!

  • @lawdog516
    @lawdog516 3 года назад +3

    Don’t use it outdoors yet it’s IP54 rated?? Makes no sense, I guess you can use it in the shower if the power goes out??? Brian have you contacted Milwaukee to see if that’s a type O ? I just ordered one on HD anyway, great review!!!

  • @Gordochava
    @Gordochava 3 года назад +8

    Im really on the fence about this light. I love the battery diversity but, $60 retail? Im going to wait for it to go on sale.

    • @miket2172
      @miket2172 3 года назад +5

      I been buying cheep harbor freight/Amazon flashlights till last year when they failed on the job when I really needed it I smahed them on the ground I got m12 and rechargeable 1100 lumens light i couldn't be happier even tho I felt guilty at first for paying that much for them they already paid for them selfs we wear finishing a roof on a house few weeks ago and it gets dark at 5pm now we worked till 6:30 and finished the roof in 1 day with the 2 flashlights placed on the chimney we could see everything on the roof so at the end of the day you get what you pay for

    • @michaelhernandez1398
      @michaelhernandez1398 3 года назад +1

      I’d love to wait for it to go on sale but I always find my self needing a small compact magnetic light for working in my garage automotive/tinkering. I see so many uses for this. And better than trying to place my flash light lol. I know that it’d make seeing stuff so much easier and not struggling using a flashlight I actually think it’s fine at $60 but $40 does sound better lol. Plus I have a lot of m12 tools so have plenty of the m12 batteries. I was looking at other m12/m18 they’re more expensive and look a lot bulkier. In my opinion this light is perfect for what I need. Just yesterday I had to use my flash light in and around my truck so I got fed up and order this m12 light.

    • @miket2172
      @miket2172 3 года назад

      @@michaelhernandez1398 yea looks like a good light it's a future purchase for me for sure

    • @thomashernandez4027
      @thomashernandez4027 3 года назад

      It’s a great light. I love the runtime on this one. 8 hrs on high

    • @karzygijose
      @karzygijose 3 года назад

      Currently with a free 2.0 battery I bought one

  • @ThacMan
    @ThacMan 3 года назад +3

    Love my Milwaukee lights. My favorite is the m12 spot light.
    Its IP54 rated so the manual should have stated don't use in wet or splash prone conditions.

  • @johnfaustus1
    @johnfaustus1 3 года назад +17

    The reason for Milwaukee's "indoor use only" warning is simple: temperature and water. This is a common point of confusion - why can't I use my IPxx rated device outdoors? IP rating says _nothing_ about weather resistance. In this case, IP54 means: level-5 solid ingress protection (small amounts of dust may enter), and level-4 liquid ingress (only splashing water allowed). Now you can see why this thing (or indeed any device with IP54) may not fare well outdoors. Rain (or snow) means water will definitely get inside . Cold weather will cause condensation on the electronics which leads to corrosion. Left out on a sunny day? Circuitry is fried. The list goes on...
    TLDR: don't take an IP54 device and use it outdoors, unless the manufacturer claims it is weather-proof.

    • @MrSupernova111
      @MrSupernova111 3 года назад

      Well, all of that may be true but I think most of us are going to use it outside as needed with the possible exception of rain and extreme cold. I don't see why someone would have this light in direct sunlight. Its a service light and its going to get used as people need it. I agree that it may get damaged in outdoor use but I think with some moderate caution occasional outdoor use should be fine. To clarify, I'm talking about occasional outdoor use and not daily outdoor use like using it as a headlamp for a golf cart.

    • @johnfaustus1
      @johnfaustus1 3 года назад

      @@MrSupernova111 My point was, Milwaukee says its IP54, and I'm sure they sent the device in for certification - but that doesn't mean anything about outdoor use. They have also clearly tested it themselves outdoors, and have told you not to do anything with it outdoors, else don't call them on warranty.
      In other words, do what you want at your own peril.

    • @MrSupernova111
      @MrSupernova111 3 года назад +1

      @@johnfaustus1 . Makes sense. I think what I should have said is that moderate risk is acceptable for the majority of users. But I understand why Milwaukee puts the warning in the instructions.

  • @MrSupernova111
    @MrSupernova111 3 года назад +3

    Looks like a great light! If I had that light I would absolutely use it outdoors except in the rain. Between this light and the M18 Rover I think Milwaukee has some good lighting options!

  • @leeh9420
    @leeh9420 3 года назад +4

    I have it, and really, really like it already. Great and versatile little light!

  • @stu-po
    @stu-po 3 года назад +2

    I hope it's just a documentation problem otherwise it looks great!

  • @JDFFEMT
    @JDFFEMT 3 года назад +3

    Brian, I find it weird that they would tell you not to use it outdoors. I think Milwaukee should clarify this. I know if I had it I would be using it outside.

  • @AntonioClaudioMichael
    @AntonioClaudioMichael 3 года назад +2

    Great quick video brian @WorkshopAddict

  • @aaronrepper7649
    @aaronrepper7649 3 года назад +2

    Will use it camping, work on cars,on the 4 wheeler, it will definitely be going outdoors.

  • @legros731
    @legros731 3 года назад +2

    Really good point about newer car being made more with aluminum did not think of that
    But i work on heavy equipment so no problem
    The outdoor this is weird can you check other rover ligth instructions if it's the same
    The stuby instructions dont say this only dont use in the rain

  • @justgregnow
    @justgregnow 3 года назад +2

    Don't use it outdoors? That makes no sense and is probably warranty mumbo jumbo.

  • @enhancehomeimprovementstoo1802
    @enhancehomeimprovementstoo1802 3 года назад +2

    Great video i just received two from acmetools.

  • @RobertLeBlancPhoto
    @RobertLeBlancPhoto 3 года назад +3

    I'm waiting for Grainger to start carrying this so I can order it through my employer.

  • @LilasTools
    @LilasTools 3 года назад +2

    Hyped for this light! Almost stepped on a tool truck for a small magnet light like this, but this is cheaper and uses my current batteries!

  • @bigmikez3128
    @bigmikez3128 3 года назад +2

    Looks like a very cool light and would make a nice addition to my m12 line price could b a lil lower tho..

  • @shantytownshipwright7334
    @shantytownshipwright7334 3 года назад +3

    I was going to get one of these for my E bike I had the smaller rover red lithium but it took a crap on me. I used it as a headlight in the rain many times until the plastic clip broke and split the light in half.

    • @BenVanAmburg
      @BenVanAmburg 3 года назад

      Their headlamps are top of the line. Except the slim design. Dont get that. Get their other headlamps

  • @arnulforivera7647
    @arnulforivera7647 3 года назад +1

    Don't Worry Guy It Will Work For Me Cuz I Dont Drive A Ford With Aluminium Body Those A Piles Of Junk I Drive A Solid Little Carcachita Toyota Pick Up 88 With A Real Real Real Real Solid Steel Body 💯 😅😅😅😅😅🙈🙈🙈

  • @brianw6645
    @brianw6645 3 года назад +2

    Nice review. Thanks.

  • @waltvancourt5052
    @waltvancourt5052 3 года назад +2

    Don't use it as a porch light.
    Outdoor lighting.

  • @jesusteran5061
    @jesusteran5061 3 года назад +1

    What is about outdoors? Do they mean don't use in the rain, or don't blind someone with it? I don't see any problem using it outdoors.

  • @Immolate62
    @Immolate62 3 года назад +1

    The last light that went viral, the wand-shaped light from Harbor Freight, just kept getting the price jacked up until nobody would buy it. I doubt this one drops much or sees many sales until there's something better out there. Why is it so hard to make a flexible bright light that has a strong magnet. For $60, you can easily afford to use neodymium.

  • @CP-ok1gv
    @CP-ok1gv 3 года назад +1

    Definitely nice but yea will wait for a sale. Honestly the price isn’t bad if you need it and are getting use out of it right away. Otherwise yea, it’s expensive. But that goes for almost anything.

  • @JJ-lu6mg
    @JJ-lu6mg 3 года назад +2

    If it has any IP rating then there shouldn’t be a problem out doors and even if it didn’t I don’t see any reason why you couldn’t use this outside. I think this needs to be confirmed with Milwaukee because that’s just makes no sense.

    • @Alucard-gt1zf
      @Alucard-gt1zf 2 года назад

      Tell me you don't know how IP ratings work without telling me.....

  • @ggsdude1
    @ggsdude1 Год назад +1

    I was skeptical about this light but when I used it for the first time i was actually impressed. 700lm was enough output of light to see what youre doing comfortable without being blinded. Good runtime with 6.0 battery. Portability and weight is great i can just toss in the backpocket of my safety vest and have it handy at all times and much more versatile than a flashlight. Would be great if these went on sale from time to time so i can grab another one

  • @thekustomknight2264
    @thekustomknight2264 3 года назад +1

    I've had mine for a abit now adapted from last rover to big to fiteverywhere . I've even fitted a phone screen protector just cut it to size to fitted it on to protect the lense it's 3mm thick clear film does a beaut job . Only complaint is to swivel abit more stick it on a bonnet doesn't really shine in particular spots up near firewall if I stick it on bonnet and swivel it doesn't shine right up near grommets etc. Etc but overall great light and light is great doest dazzle you or wiring

  • @cardo1111
    @cardo1111 2 года назад +1

    Excellent review, comprehensive and helpful info 👍🏽

  • @roblesink6119
    @roblesink6119 6 месяцев назад

    59? Mine cost 79 rn in 2024😢 I just bought it bc my buddy has one and it's a life saver

  • @AngryMeditator
    @AngryMeditator 5 месяцев назад

    Trueview isn't the color. Trueview is just high CRI.

  • @shredder646
    @shredder646 3 года назад +1

    Is that a nitecore p20i flashlight you were charging with this Milwaukee light?

  • @Egermaster1
    @Egermaster1 3 года назад +1

    So stupid is indoor only

  • @XerxezsX
    @XerxezsX 2 года назад

    For $38 get a Coast flashlight 5" long 1" wide,1" wide at the lens, Body is thinner, it comes with a Zithion-X rechargeable battery through USB, or can also use 3 AAA rechargeable batteries(optional), (a 4 pack of top of the line AAA rechargeable batteries cost around $6, they hold 500-1000 charges, a top of the line AAA charger $15), the flashlight has a clip on the body and you can attach a lanyard to it, 1000 lumens high(3.25 hours), 610 lumens medium(5.5 hours), 280 lumens low(11 hours), these three light outputs cover almost everything you need. Milwaukee can't hold a candle to Coast 👌👌👌
    In fact JUST ONE M12 2.0 battery is $64, almost twice the price of the coast flashlight 😳😳😳 M12 4.0 battery $90 😳 oh and don't forget the charger 👌

  • @sertac1000
    @sertac1000 Год назад

    I think do not use outdoor
    Do not buy it…

  • @robertbarcus1963
    @robertbarcus1963 3 года назад

    How scratch and drop resistant are the lenses to the light. Never used a light yet from any manufacture that will hold up too kindly to Lacquer thinner. And dont even get me started on trying to replace the lenses. They don't sell them as a replacement.

  • @mfill5043
    @mfill5043 2 года назад

    There are a ton of Milwaukee lights that say in the manual do not use outdoors, including that M18 light you have there on the table.
    Nothing new about that.
    I have 3 of these lights and they are awesome!
    Couldn't be happier.

  • @ucitymetalhead
    @ucitymetalhead 3 года назад

    I'm interested but I don't think I need another light and I kinda prefer my fenix and olight stuff cause they are super waterproof.

  • @AaronAnita456
    @AaronAnita456 3 года назад +1

    How would you say this compares to the M12 compact flood light? Would this one be better being more versatile with being able to move the lights around and bring smaller?

    • @WorkshopAddict
      @WorkshopAddict  3 года назад +1

      I like it more, but I guess it would depend on how you use it. This one would knock over easier if it is just sitting somewhere.

    • @tonywilson4713
      @tonywilson4713 3 года назад

      @@WorkshopAddict I just watched your review of the M12 straight die grinder 👍👍
      This too is another good straight forward review. Unfortunately this isn't yet available in Australia.
      (edit) I am an engineer the IP54 is definitely suitable for outdoor, but is NOT a do anything you like. In the IP System the first digit is for solids like dust. The second digit is for liquids and the bigger the number the better the protection. NOTE: IP ratings mainly apply to industrial enclosures. I work in electrical and control systems and the IP rating for my work is very important. Voltage and water don't play well together.
      *For this light.* The 5 is for limited dust which means the light is NOT fully sealed against dust. So if you use it outdoors in dusty conditions its likely that over time it will get crap inside it and possibly fail. No problem just clean the crap of it after you use it. Its a tool look after it.
      The 4 is for "Protected from water spray from any direction." A 2 in the second digit is for vertical droplets so long as its at better than a 15degree angle. So being in the rain should not bother it so long as the water can run off of it. I wouldn't use it exposed to that torrential heavy rain I have seen in places like Texas. And I wouldn't use it when the rain and wind push water into every nook and cranny. But if your playing golf in those conditions your crazy and get what you deserve for it.
      Cheers.

  • @joshuaparker5199
    @joshuaparker5199 3 года назад

    Yet again someone who actually turns the light off when using a light for a review 🙄🙄🙄

  • @punchpunchowned
    @punchpunchowned 3 года назад

    Much better than the Milwaukee USB lights. Love the lights but the batteries life is horrible. This is much better, thanks!

  • @firstlast5139
    @firstlast5139 3 года назад +3

    The instruction for the M12 Spotlight say the same thing "Do not use Outdoors", which is bizarre since that's probably the use a person would buy it for!
    Also there is a warranty disclaimer
    "This warranty is not valid in the following situations
    a) When the product is used in a different manners from the end-user guide or instruction manual.
    b) When the conditions of use are not normal."
    Of course one might ask what are "normal conditions"
    Sounds as if Milwaukee is providing itself with a means to say "No Warranty Service" regardless of the 5 year warranty .
    All of this Milwaukee Warranty/User Guide mumbo jumbo might just convince some potential purchasers to find another vendor, perhaps a vendor a bit more honest about providing a real warranty for the product and its intended use.

  • @JR-ql8bd
    @JR-ql8bd 3 года назад

    I got 3 of them. Great lights. I think its supposed to be don't use in the rain. We all someone would use it in away that would allow water to get into the battery connection area.

  • @gilbertalejos424
    @gilbertalejos424 3 года назад

    Wish milwaukee lights were bright white not the true view yellowish light..😭

  • @thewholls7176
    @thewholls7176 3 года назад

    How can it be IP54 and not safe for outdoors......

  • @guantai69
    @guantai69 3 года назад

    It’s not a bad light. Would be good since it’s so light to work in drop ceilings on mechanical units.

  • @NikkThompson
    @NikkThompson 3 года назад +1

    Have had mine for over a month or two now, some online retailer shipped mine way before release.
    I like it, like it alot. Not my most used, thats the nitecore mh12vs/s, but it is my favorite flood light.
    Carry it in the front lip of my klien tradesman pro backpack along side the m12 surge. Use it daily. No complaints.
    1 requested and would've paid more for it, but m12 charging capability would've been killer.

    • @legros731
      @legros731 3 года назад +1

      Will become bigger and heavier with a charger added no thank

    • @NikkThompson
      @NikkThompson 3 года назад +1

      @@legros731 I don't think so. Look at the m12 power source for heated jacket. Has usb output charging and micro USB m12 charging. Barely bigger than the non USB heated power source.

    • @legros731
      @legros731 3 года назад +1

      @@NikkThompson yes you are right did not think of that one

    • @NikkThompson
      @NikkThompson 3 года назад

      @@legros731 I think $60 is fair. But with m12 charging, this light would be a totally independent all in one tool. Totally convenient. Honestly worth a $100 price tag to me. Even tho I'm cheap, and have several 4/6ah bat's available to just have something so necessary as a flood light that does everything also, charge and be charged, that'd be great.

    • @legros731
      @legros731 3 года назад

      @@NikkThompson sure the more the better
      But for me personally dont really need a charger a have more than a can use lol
      They should make more tool kit without charger
      I want one but for some strange reason it's not available in my region it look its sold at HD in canada but when a click on it it said not available in you're region

  • @Jay-op2be
    @Jay-op2be 3 года назад

    Very informative video as always from your channel. I was wondering though why there is no kinda fold out hook as another option for this vehicles without metal to stick to?

  • @miguelmendez4718
    @miguelmendez4718 3 года назад +1

    I can use it on my snow blower

    • @shanew7361
      @shanew7361 3 года назад +1

      Yep, exactly why I bought it and random places in the garage lol🤣👍

  • @sproully
    @sproully 2 года назад +1

    Not to use it outdoors is almost like saying don’t use a flashlight at night. Regardless I’m still thinking of ordering this light and using it camping & to charge my phone.

  • @HollywoodRoseJack
    @HollywoodRoseJack 2 года назад

    No drop test??

  • @odin8214
    @odin8214 3 года назад +1

    feels like yesterday when those lights used to be the but of all jokes.

  • @user-wf5zu9ru8s
    @user-wf5zu9ru8s 3 года назад

    Good day.
    I want to buy an instrument from you. Question: Can you send a parcel to the Republic of Belarus?

  • @meanodustino9563
    @meanodustino9563 3 года назад

    Milwaukee lights are WAAAAY over priced. M12 light stick. $100🙄 i got it on sale for $45 its good buut only for $45 not $100. same with the under hood light. $200 without a battery is robbery. And the aluminum body is awful, you can’t clean it and the plastic lens is junk. As well as it drinks batteries! Omg 4.0 is dead in like 2hrs MAX. Thats not high either.

  • @conqwiztadore2213
    @conqwiztadore2213 3 года назад

    The USB series is absolute garbage, they die quickly and take forever to charge. I cant believe they do not have type c fast charge.
    The only pro is they fit in tight spaces

  • @bradleygroves7229
    @bradleygroves7229 3 года назад

    The batterys are not ip54 that might be why it says dont use outside trying to save warranty on batterys

  • @chuckles2684
    @chuckles2684 3 года назад +4

    Well knowing that it's suggested indoors I see how it's only 700 lumen opposed to a flashlight that they have I think it's 1100 lumen... I guess we'll have to wait for a Gen 2 version of it... lol

    • @WorkshopAddict
      @WorkshopAddict  3 года назад +1

      I would not let that suggestion deter you.