Nick, strictly speaking your hull is not suffering from rust staining. It has been subjected to hot steel fragments which have impacted the gel coat, in some cases burying themselves beneath the surface of the gelcoat and subsequently rusting and staining the gelcoat. Sorry for being long winded but the conclusion is, removing the rust stain is not resolving the problem - it is just removing the evidence. If any steel particles remain in the gelcoat they will very happily produce rust stains for years to come. Sorry.
Just out of curiosity, wouldn’t using a fall out remover (thioglycolic acid) used to decontaminate car paint dislodge the metal particles and maybe make them possible to remove with a contact wash or maybe with the aid of a clay bar? Or maybe angel grind particles are a different beast…? I sure hope they solve it!
I tend to agree, that sadly the rust will continue to reappear. The shipping company are getting off lightly as you may need to plane the gelcoat and resurface the hull as a worse case scenario. I really hope it doesn’t come to that!!!!
Having done numerous ocean crossings, it always pays to just cover your boat in marine wax. Whether under own keel or transport. Just get a few tubs and rub it on by bare hand. No rubbing out, just leave the excess to dry. Saves gelcoat, protects stainless, prevents plexiglass from fading. Takes a day to get off, but would have prevented any damage including grinding metal dust UV damage, or spray paint damage from neighbor boats on a crossing.
A really good idea, we weren't aware that this could be an issue- we just thought our boat would get super dirty and we'd be able to clean it. If I could go back in time, we'd absolutely be doing this or even paying to wrap the boat.
I mentioned this in the last video's comment section, but mostly likely the rust straining is from iron ore dust blowing from the mines in Mauritania. If it was grinding dust then it would be local to where ever the grinding was done. Unless of course there were grinding the whole deck of the ship. If you don't believe me google The Sahara-Sahel Dust Corridor.
This could have been entitled 'Super-Stressful Haul Out' bc I was literally holding my breath! Also, glad you're taking the time to enjoy your surroundings beyond the boat (and thank you for sharing). Many sailing channels barely show life beyond their own deck, it's a shame.
I sure hope this works out. Purchased a Subaru brand new that rusted through paint within 6 months. 5 times to the paint shop prior to selling as a rust bucket.
I’ve been following your rust issues and I totally feel for you. Since arriving in Spain I’ve discovered a product called Ferronet chalice has been incredible at removing rust stains off stainless and gel coat. I’ve been in the hosting industry for 40 years and this is by far the best and quickest product I’ve ever found and it’s not terribly expensive. I hope it helps you. ❤
Wow, that was stressful! And I was just watching! I hope that they can fix all of the damage to your standards. Keep your chins up and power on. Thanks for taking me along again 😊
Good to see you guys again 👍 Boats. Yates, Ships it’s on going maintenance 🤷♂️ 💯 them rust marks are from Grinding of metal. somewhere docks, in transit Grinding has been done on a Ship, Crane, Dock . I’m 💯 not trying to be the Grim Reaper But when this happens the metal from the grinder is Hot & the grinding burn into Paint, Fibreglass, Metal, Ropes etc you name it, I hope it’s not that bad. I’m only telling you because you need have a thorough inspection take Photographs & talk to the people doing job on the dry dock & report to the company covering the costs 👍
I feel for you guys chasing this issue. I wonder if the cause is not grinding, but the guts of the shipping vessels engine, like piston rings or piston lining breaking down in the exhaust. Just that it’s spread EVERYWHERE makes me feel like it was spread through plumes, not direct grinding spray? Best wishes getting it resolved.
Wow ! Now that's tight ! The fact that angle grinding particles are everywhere is mindboggling ! I am glad that those responsible are covering costs. You guys teach me something every episode. Thank you
I know you have probably finished the job but the next time this happens try using a product called auto glynm magma. No need to haul out which i know how scary that is with a cat in a concrete lift bay. Just spray it on the rust stains which then turn scary purple... then then they lift off and you just wash them off with water. Job done. I had a car that had the same stains and i could not believe how easy that was! I use it on the boat alot and it does not damage the paint alloy or gell coat. It's magic. The other thing about it, it will find all the spots of steel that haven't rusted yet which will go on rusting for ages
Pleased you had a couple of days away on a mini adventure free from filming with "Kavanche" (?) from Seawind Europe and wife , - that breakfast looked phenomenal! Plus the casual meeting that led to a great night out with neighbours Alan & Pia, and a hangover, is what sailing is about (OK, partially)
I would not want my million dollar boat going into a haul out dock with only 8"/21cm on each side clearance. SO glade everything worked out just fine with the haul out and thank havens that shipping company is stepping up and taking care of things.
It would be almost impossible to cover the entire boat with angle grinding particles. It has nothing to do with angle grinders. It’s most likely that the ship had docked somewhere close to an iron ore ship unloading or loading and the iron ore dust has got everywhere and created 1 million rust spots. I have seen this in Melbourne at pier 35 where it is close to the docks and the boats there, are always covered in a layer of filth from the loading and unloading a ships. Just my humble opinion cheers Rustie.
For all the relaxing one does on a boat it is definitely earned by all the stress one has to endure one way or another by owning a boat.I hope RR2 came out of this with a clean bill of health. Happy Sails.
It's a boat, it lives in salt water. Nick and Terese will be fixing this boat for as long as they own this boat. The work will never be done on it. Sure all of the warranty work will get done at some point, and the rust issue solved, but then they will be solely responsible for all the repairs themselves. Once that boat was launched into the water, the salt water, and air started to go to work on breaking everything down. Just because it is a new boat, doesn't mean they won't be fixing it all the time in exotic places regardless of its newness.
I removed rust staining on my runabout by applying CLR (or any rust remover) on a paper towel, placing it against the hull and putting a piece of plastic wrap over the top of it for 5 minutes. No scrubbing was involved. All weak acids work by liberating the iron from the iron oxide (rust) so make sure you wash the treatment area afterwards because the free iron can still stain the boat or deck if not washed away.
It’s kind of hard to fathom how iron particles ended up on the underside of the boat up by the anchor. It’s almost like the transport ship was tied up alongside a bulker loading up iron ore.
Thinking the same. I can see angle grinding could cause some serious damage, but how on earth did it get EVERYWHERE!? Seems every square inch of the boat is covered.
Your close to being on the money. It's likely to have blown from iron ore mines in Mauritania or from somewhere along the west African coast in my opinion.
I can imagine it will be beyond metal imbedded in gelcoat, anything else that was left out will have metal embedded into it, bow netting. Everything. As a guy that owns a fab / race shop I say grinding sparks are some pretty nasty stuff.
Just seeing Ruby Rose 2 on the water by herself, you do not get an accurate picture of just how BIG she really is. Going into that standard sized boat lift showed exactly how big Ruby Rose 2 is. Truely amazing. What beautiful boat she is.
I'd say yr 100% right, it's not about getting rid of the stain. If they don't block sand the surface back and re-polish the gel coat the steel particles it will just rust again.
@@MUDNROCKSagreed. 30 years in the welding and fabrication industry but it was week 1 when it was drilled into me about the damage you can cause to glass and paint finishes with grinding sparks. Those iron particles burn into the gelcoat and the only way to get rid of them is by flatting the gel back until they’re gone. Hopefully they put plenty of gel in the lay up
Turkiye is one of the most beautiful countries and the people are so friendly. There is also lots of history there. Hope you get to enjoy all that they offer visitors. So sorry about the damage done to your beautiful boat.
I still don't understand what captain / deck master / boatswain could have possibly allowed the grinding work on and directly around a million dollar yacht during the transit. Such an egregious error! Good to hear they are trying to rectify the situation, but good lord.. the incompetence!
@ seems to be dismissed, maybe a “responsibility issue?” Or a legal issue, i’ve no clue, but it’s seems to me far too much of it everywhere to be an angle grinder, possibly if 200 people were using angle grinders? And it doesn’t appear to have penetrated the gel coat, making me believe it’s cold iron deposits not actually hot sparks, 🤔. Sounds volcanic? I’ve seen what that chit does to aircraft (especially jet engines) it’s like grinding dust.. volcanic debris I would imagine have a large amount of iron, (I’m not a geologist)
So there is a combination of Turkish delight is the villages, food, drink, neighbouring boaters and hangovers. and Turkish nightmare of a rusting hulk. You'll be a much longer time out of the water on the hard than you want to be, hopegully you can get the shipping company to coughup the cost of ALl the repairs without too much hassle. Bonne chance! Un abbraccio forte a due!
Good Luck guys. That is a huge mess. Looks like some of the bolts or washers are rusting. Don't miss anything because they won't do it a second time. Vinny
We loved Turkey, we spent 10 months there. What ever you do do not miss our going to Epidavros to the archaeological site there is you are even remotely interested in history. Absolutely amazing
Be careful that you get the real Raki we got some that was bad once and I got very, VERY ill. We found out later that I was fortunate that I self decominated (both directions 🤮💩) so thoroughly. Some have died from Raki that appeared real, but was bootlegged. I very much love Rakı, sucuk, and Turkish toast!!
I have a Cat in Greece and i was surprised that they did not have foam for the sides of the lift pen. your cat is like mine and almost full width of the pen.. At Cleopatra a full service yard and very professional in the Ionian and they do a lot of Cats... they will bring you into the outer basin.. then lift your fenders... and you slide into the inner basin where the walls have soft carpet. and they are ready to lift you and they make sure no marks are made on your boat.. most boats there are very expensive. and as for your rust stains.. i agree with another commenter that the stains are from imbedded metal particles.. they were hot when they hit the boat... and stuck to the gelcoat. i had a similar issue years ago from a boat that had work done next to me in Tunisia. and only this year did the rust stop coming up... it took years of treating and polishing to get the tiny specs of metal gone from the gel coat... good luck.. but brace yourself to be frustrated.
I think you may have a larger problem than you imagine. It is possible to clean up the rust but embeded ferrous particles will remain. They will quickly rust and weep again. I sincerely hope not in your case but it is a strong possibility. I would suggest a a delayed sign off and re survey in a month or two.
I would think the shipping companies, or, insurance companies of the shipping companies, would require boats, or anything really, be wrapped. Now they pay for the clean up.
I would put money on a lot more beeps from Nick when he first looked at the hull. So sailing back to the med looking good about now. That is a gel coat replacement.
Boy, talk about threading the needle,,,, I think I held my breath the whole time RR2 was entering the lift out slot…. Just woke up here in California, 5:26 am, and that Turkish breakfast looked awesome,,,,
Nick, I see in your intro scenes of you with different cats where you appear to enjoy them. Have you thought about getting a cat to join both of you on your travels?
Hate to say it but to this none sailor, none boat owner, and little to no experience in boat coating, I'd say new paint job is need in the future. I wouldn't sign off with just a cleaning! ❤🖖
Watching you guys and watching the Wynn’s on their new boat makes me think twice about ever getting a brand new boat. All 4 of you guys are going through drama that should not be happening. Over all you all have a more than acceptable attitude. If anything it is entertaining.
I used to ship a classic car to New England and Florida twice a year. Had to do it myself because 3 times we shipped it 3 times it was damaged and that's a beautiful classic car that people should know will be under scrutiny when it arrives doesn't matter. They still do the stupidest stuff. And damage the car
This looks very similar to something that happens here in scandinavia (but on a much bigger scale) where metal particles from studded winter tires gets flung onto the car beind. That embends itself in the gloss/paint and you have to use special chemicals to remove them. These seems to have been hot so they burned further into the gelcoat. I wonder if it is possible to chemically remove them since abbrassive methods will remove allt he gelcoat. Chemically remove them then cover with new gelcoat? I wonder what the situation was on the ferry across? An angle grinder would spray maybe a small part of the boat but this is all over? Was it stored at port next to some machine shop or something?
Between you and the Wynns - I feel like almost all possible boat problems have happened. lol I hope everything works out and we see Ruby Rose cruising around the Med really soon!
I think the magnificent Wynns Hull #3 HH 44 "Hybrid" Cat being the first of its configuration (no dagger boards HH44) is more in the experimental design, test and evluation category vs being in the "proven production" category like the HH Ruby Rose. The Rose being a gorgus vessel and probabley as well designed as any non racing Cat can get. The 44 Hybrid was something the adventurous Wynn's knowingly wanted to film for their series and get to participate in with HH. One should separate the mishaps and malfunctions on both vessels from the vendor supplied items like the refrigerator, water maker etc from the carbon fiber hulls fabricated by HH.
When stainless steel bolts and weldments are bleeding rust, it's because the stainless steel was not passivated after fabrication was completed. Stainless steel does not rust. However, the ferrous material that settles onto the stainless inside a steel fab shop will eventually rust and make it appear as if the stainless steel is rusting.
To add to the previous comment, it is not an easy repair. Years ago I ran a New Car Dealership in Ohio. GM started shipping vehicles by rail to save on shipping. We noticed rust spots in the paint. It was rust from the wheels and brakes. Buffing did NOT fix the problem. The vehicles had to be wet sanded and clear coat had to be reapplied. The factory paid for everything, as they should have! They started covering all rail cars. Sorry mate you have serious damage!
Terysa is looking remarkably well for being hung over. I've been following several channels which have a case of the new boat blues. Nothing that floats is immune to the need for constant repair.
How do you flush all those little particles out of those hard to reach places to make sure in the future? You don't get more rest in those small nooks and crannies
If that was my boat I'd be looking for the insurer to send me somewhere for a week while they deal with it. You can't live on a boat on the hard, and Nick and Theresa have family all over greece.
Have to love how these boat builders charge for their boats and the delivery and quality is beyond ridiculous. I’ve purchased exotic cars that you could eat of the engine compartment and quality was top drawer….I’m just happy some of the boat builders aren’t building airplanes…
It's simply not normal, you berth alongside the waiting carrier, you're craned aboard, and chocked, lashed down on deck. Rig and stanchions in place. How on earth would the crew wrap the boat? Of course, if you come out of factory/yard flat packed rig off and are craned from the dock, its a possibility, but not with a wet lift, or floating into a submersible deck yacht carrier. Ive shipped two boats across the Atlantic, neither was wrapped, and neither suffered the idiocy of someone angle grinding. I have however suffered rust damage ashore due to someone shot-blasting a steel structure nearby. As with RR2, it took 100's of hours of remedial work
@@davidwebb4904 I'd suggest that lifting a boat ashore to the facilities of a yard ashore is entirely different proposition to craning a boat on to a ship
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Nick, strictly speaking your hull is not suffering from rust staining. It has been subjected to hot steel fragments which have impacted the gel coat, in some cases burying themselves beneath the surface of the gelcoat and subsequently rusting and staining the gelcoat. Sorry for being long winded but the conclusion is, removing the rust stain is not resolving the problem - it is just removing the evidence. If any steel particles remain in the gelcoat they will very happily produce rust stains for years to come. Sorry.
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Just out of curiosity, wouldn’t using a fall out remover (thioglycolic acid) used to decontaminate car paint dislodge the metal particles and maybe make them possible to remove with a contact wash or maybe with the aid of a clay bar? Or maybe angel grind particles are a different beast…? I sure hope they solve it!
yeah, we're starting to realise this. Over winter she'll be on the hard and more work will be done to repair her.
@@sailingrubyrose Daaaaammmmm, what a pain in the butt! So extremely frustrating
I tend to agree, that sadly the rust will continue to reappear. The shipping company are getting off lightly as you may need to plane the gelcoat and resurface the hull as a worse case scenario. I really hope it doesn’t come to that!!!!
Having done numerous ocean crossings, it always pays to just cover your boat in marine wax. Whether under own keel or transport. Just get a few tubs and rub it on by bare hand. No rubbing out, just leave the excess to dry. Saves gelcoat, protects stainless, prevents plexiglass from fading. Takes a day to get off, but would have prevented any damage including grinding metal dust UV damage, or spray paint damage from neighbor boats on a crossing.
A really good idea, we weren't aware that this could be an issue- we just thought our boat would get super dirty and we'd be able to clean it. If I could go back in time, we'd absolutely be doing this or even paying to wrap the boat.
I mentioned this in the last video's comment section, but mostly likely the rust straining is from iron ore dust blowing from the mines in Mauritania. If it was grinding dust then it would be local to where ever the grinding was done. Unless of course there were grinding the whole deck of the ship. If you don't believe me google The Sahara-Sahel Dust Corridor.
This could have been entitled 'Super-Stressful Haul Out' bc I was literally holding my breath! Also, glad you're taking the time to enjoy your surroundings beyond the boat (and thank you for sharing). Many sailing channels barely show life beyond their own deck, it's a shame.
HATS OFF to you guys for not going mental as the boat went into the slip! I would have been tearing my hair out. Well done
I sure hope this works out. Purchased a Subaru brand new that rusted through paint within 6 months. 5 times to the paint shop prior to selling as a rust bucket.
I’ve been following your rust issues and I totally feel for you. Since arriving in Spain I’ve discovered a product called Ferronet chalice has been incredible at removing rust stains off stainless and gel coat. I’ve been in the hosting industry for 40 years and this is by far the best and quickest product I’ve ever found and it’s not terribly expensive. I hope it helps you. ❤
Wow, that was stressful! And I was just watching! I hope that they can fix all of the damage to your standards. Keep your chins up and power on.
Thanks for taking me along again 😊
Good to see you guys again 👍
Boats. Yates, Ships it’s on going maintenance 🤷♂️
💯 them rust marks are from Grinding of metal.
somewhere docks, in transit Grinding has been done on a Ship, Crane, Dock .
I’m 💯 not trying to be the Grim Reaper But when this happens the metal from the grinder is Hot & the grinding burn into Paint, Fibreglass, Metal, Ropes etc you name it, I hope it’s not that bad.
I’m only telling you because you need have a thorough inspection take Photographs & talk to the people doing job on the dry dock & report to the company covering the costs 👍
Jeez, i was extremely tense watching you get in to that dock at the start! God knows how you and your hearts coped!!
I feel for you guys chasing this issue. I wonder if the cause is not grinding, but the guts of the shipping vessels engine, like piston rings or piston lining breaking down in the exhaust. Just that it’s spread EVERYWHERE makes me feel like it was spread through plumes, not direct grinding spray?
Best wishes getting it resolved.
Wow ! Now that's tight ! The fact that angle grinding particles are everywhere is mindboggling ! I am glad that those responsible are covering costs. You guys teach me something every episode. Thank you
Nick, great job keeping it together. That was one stressful haul out. Last thing you need is another thing to fix on the list
I know you have probably finished the job but the next time this happens try using a product called auto glynm magma. No need to haul out which i know how scary that is with a cat in a concrete lift bay. Just spray it on the rust stains which then turn scary purple... then then they lift off and you just wash them off with water. Job done. I had a car that had the same stains and i could not believe how easy that was! I use it on the boat alot and it does not damage the paint alloy or gell coat. It's magic.
The other thing about it, it will find all the spots of steel that haven't rusted yet which will go on rusting for ages
So nice they are all covering everything. Great job on picking a company that stands by what they do. Too bad it has to happen.
Loved your comment "we didn't film anything, we just wanted to enjoy ourselves".
That's the problem and it shows.
Pleased you had a couple of days away on a mini adventure free from filming with "Kavanche" (?) from Seawind Europe and wife , - that breakfast looked phenomenal! Plus the casual meeting that led to a great night out with neighbours Alan & Pia, and a hangover, is what sailing is about (OK, partially)
I would not want my million dollar boat going into a haul out dock with only 8"/21cm on each side clearance. SO glade everything worked out just fine with the haul out and thank havens that shipping company is stepping up and taking care of things.
It would be almost impossible to cover the entire boat with angle grinding particles. It has nothing to do with angle grinders. It’s most likely that the ship had docked somewhere close to an iron ore ship unloading or loading and the iron ore dust has got everywhere and created 1 million rust spots. I have seen this in Melbourne at pier 35 where it is close to the docks and the boats there, are always covered in a layer of filth from the loading and unloading a ships. Just my humble opinion cheers Rustie.
Your probably right and with your name being Rustie its probably the funniest comment ever. 😂
Now the boat yard knows the max width and size of fenders to use. Very nicely done!
Great job - you are one of my top 5 sailing channels!!
For all the relaxing one does on a boat it is definitely earned by all the stress one has to endure one way or another by owning a boat.I hope RR2 came out of this with a clean bill of health. Happy Sails.
It's a boat, it lives in salt water. Nick and Terese will be fixing this boat for as long as they own this boat. The work will never be done on it. Sure all of the warranty work will get done at some point, and the rust issue solved, but then they will be solely responsible for all the repairs themselves. Once that boat was launched into the water, the salt water, and air started to go to work on breaking everything down. Just because it is a new boat, doesn't mean they won't be fixing it all the time in exotic places regardless of its newness.
I removed rust staining on my runabout by applying CLR (or any rust remover) on a paper towel, placing it against the hull and putting a piece of plastic wrap over the top of it for 5 minutes. No scrubbing was involved. All weak acids work by liberating the iron from the iron oxide (rust) so make sure you wash the treatment area afterwards because the free iron can still stain the boat or deck if not washed away.
Yes, this week's video was even stressful to watch from my living room in Minnesota. Cheers.
It’s kind of hard to fathom how iron particles ended up on the underside of the boat up by the anchor. It’s almost like the transport ship was tied up alongside a bulker loading up iron ore.
Thinking the same. I can see angle grinding could cause some serious damage, but how on earth did it get EVERYWHERE!? Seems every square inch of the boat is covered.
Your close to being on the money. It's likely to have blown from iron ore mines in Mauritania or from somewhere along the west African coast in my opinion.
I can imagine it will be beyond metal imbedded in gelcoat, anything else that was left out will have metal embedded into it, bow netting. Everything. As a guy that owns a fab / race shop I say grinding sparks are some pretty nasty stuff.
Miss your videos, but glad you unplug & just enjoy❤
Just seeing Ruby Rose 2 on the water by herself, you do not get an accurate picture of just how BIG she really is. Going into that standard sized boat lift showed exactly how big Ruby Rose 2 is. Truely amazing. What beautiful boat she is.
I just love y'all! The dry humor is perfect for my funny bone!
Omg. That lift was innnnsane.
I imagine those grinding bits have burnt into the gel coating, get a second opinion from a gel coat specialist and pay him to oversea the work.
I'd say yr 100% right, it's not about getting rid of the stain. If they don't block sand the surface back and re-polish the gel coat the steel particles it will just rust again.
@@MUDNROCKSagreed. 30 years in the welding and fabrication industry but it was week 1 when it was drilled into me about the damage you can cause to glass and paint finishes with grinding sparks. Those iron particles burn into the gelcoat and the only way to get rid of them is by flatting the gel back until they’re gone. Hopefully they put plenty of gel in the lay up
What an educational and interesting part of boat life ~ great video, again.
Turkiye is one of the most beautiful countries and the people are so friendly. There is also lots of history there. Hope you get to enjoy all that they offer visitors.
So sorry about the damage done to your beautiful boat.
Well that was fun!😮
Once one of the truly excellent actual sailing channels…
@@alpha1967 💯-they keep it real!!!
Even with the difficulties of the boat it looks beautiful even with the work needed.
Clanging Halyard. Great nickname. 😂😂
I still don't understand what captain / deck master / boatswain could have possibly allowed the grinding work on and directly around a million dollar yacht during the transit. Such an egregious error! Good to hear they are trying to rectify the situation, but good lord.. the incompetence!
I never knew that I needed to have a Turkish breakfast. But now, I do.
You really, really do.
It’s only stressful if you let it be stressful, chill, being stressed about it isn’t going to change anything. Yes I do own a boat.
Thanks guys! Still think them stains are from a volcano.. that chit is everywhere..
@@trevhedges you might be on to something…..😎
@ seems to be dismissed, maybe a “responsibility issue?” Or a legal issue, i’ve no clue, but it’s seems to me far too much of it everywhere to be an angle grinder, possibly if 200 people were using angle grinders? And it doesn’t appear to have penetrated the gel coat, making me believe it’s cold iron deposits not actually hot sparks, 🤔. Sounds volcanic? I’ve seen what that chit does to aircraft (especially jet engines) it’s like grinding dust.. volcanic debris I would imagine have a large amount of iron, (I’m not a geologist)
It will be interesting to see Ruby Rose after the cleanup.
So there is a combination of Turkish delight is the villages, food, drink, neighbouring boaters and hangovers. and Turkish nightmare of a rusting hulk.
You'll be a much longer time out of the water on the hard than you want to be, hopegully you can get the shipping company to coughup the cost of ALl the repairs without too much hassle.
Bonne chance!
Un abbraccio forte a due!
Do you guys know if any of the other boats on the ship also sustained similar damage?
For Nick : F me, that stressed me out getting into the lift.... what a way to celebrate a hangover!!
Clanging Halyard is my new name for a drinking induced headache..
Good Luck guys. That is a huge mess. Looks like some of the bolts or washers are rusting. Don't miss anything because they won't do it a second time. Vinny
We loved Turkey, we spent 10 months there.
What ever you do do not miss our going to Epidavros to the archaeological site there is you are even remotely interested in history. Absolutely amazing
@@JayPerrypersonal Do you mean Ephesus? Epidavros (alt: Epidaurus) is in Greece.
Hi yes Ephesus, bloody auto text!
That was nerve racking WOWWWW
Be careful that you get the real Raki we got some that was bad once and I got very, VERY ill. We found out later that I was fortunate that I self decominated (both directions 🤮💩) so thoroughly. Some have died from Raki that appeared real, but was bootlegged. I very much love Rakı, sucuk, and Turkish toast!!
It's insane the amount of damage that the shippers have done I hope they have no problems fixing it all and covering the cost of new bottom paint.
Glad things are working out.
I have a Cat in Greece and i was surprised that they did not have foam for the sides of the lift pen. your cat is like mine and almost full width of the pen.. At Cleopatra a full service yard and very professional in the Ionian and they do a lot of Cats... they will bring you into the outer basin.. then lift your fenders... and you slide into the inner basin where the walls have soft carpet. and they are ready to lift you and they make sure no marks are made on your boat.. most boats there are very expensive. and as for your rust stains.. i agree with another commenter that the stains are from imbedded metal particles.. they were hot when they hit the boat... and stuck to the gelcoat. i had a similar issue years ago from a boat that had work done next to me in Tunisia. and only this year did the rust stop coming up... it took years of treating and polishing to get the tiny specs of metal gone from the gel coat... good luck.. but brace yourself to be frustrated.
I just have to say, that 20 cm seems like a lot more room than 7.8 inches! LMAO That was tense!
At least Nick got the refrigerator working!
I think you may have a larger problem than you imagine.
It is possible to clean up the rust but embeded ferrous particles will remain.
They will quickly rust and weep again.
I sincerely hope not in your case but it is a strong possibility.
I would suggest a a delayed sign off and re survey in a month or two.
Thanks mate, she's being hauled out over winter for continued work on here.
I would think the shipping companies, or, insurance companies of the shipping companies, would require boats, or anything really, be wrapped. Now they pay for the clean up.
Terysa, got to keep your clanging halyard in line. LOL Wow that lift was a tight fit.
Thanks for sharing ⛵️ 👍
I would put money on a lot more beeps from Nick when he first looked at the hull. So sailing back to the med looking good about now. That is a gel coat replacement.
It’s a brand new boat yard. Why in the world would they have designed such a narrow slipway?
Have once docked without a motor under sail, remember to panic slowly .
Boy, talk about threading the needle,,,, I think I held my breath the whole time RR2 was entering the lift out slot…. Just woke up here in California, 5:26 am, and that Turkish breakfast looked awesome,,,,
Nick, I see in your intro scenes of you with different cats where you appear to enjoy them. Have you thought about getting a cat to join both of you on your travels?
Hate to say it but to this none sailor, none boat owner, and little to no experience in boat coating, I'd say new paint job is need in the future. I wouldn't sign off with just a cleaning! ❤🖖
I basically learned if you going to ship your boat then you need to shrink wrap it
red hot iron particles from an angle grinder would just melt and burn through the wrap, just like they have into the gelcoat.
Groovy episode.
I hope the insurance company really follow up on this, prayers that they cover your repairs.
Love watching every week.
Has the shipping company admitted what actually happen on voyage to cause the stains?
Morning guys
Wow that was stressful!
Go back and stay in that lovely little village while they work on the hull.
Wonder how bad the other boats were next to you in the cargo hold. At least they are cleaning your boat.
I would suggest that the bolts on the anchor box should be stainless steel.
they are. Stainless still rust
I wonder what it was that Nick said in response to “I thought the French canals were tight”?
Next time get the yacht wrapped. On the east coast of the USA it is done all the time when yachts are land hauled between the north east and Florida.
Far out guys... you have been put through the ringer by transit operator. What the hell were they doing soldering on the cargo ship??!
That looks like a new pull out ! Why didn't they make it wider! That's crazy boat's are only getting wider!!!
Gosh.... I must have missed the email inviting me to breakfast... what a shame!!
Good luck.
Watching you guys and watching the Wynn’s on their new boat makes me think twice about ever getting a brand new boat. All 4 of you guys are going through drama that should not be happening. Over all you all have a more than acceptable attitude. If anything it is entertaining.
I used to ship a classic car to New England and Florida twice a year. Had to do it myself because 3 times we shipped it 3 times it was damaged and that's a beautiful classic car that people should know will be under scrutiny when it arrives doesn't matter. They still do the stupidest stuff. And damage the car
This looks very similar to something that happens here in scandinavia (but on a much bigger scale) where metal particles from studded winter tires gets flung onto the car beind. That embends itself in the gloss/paint and you have to use special chemicals to remove them. These seems to have been hot so they burned further into the gelcoat. I wonder if it is possible to chemically remove them since abbrassive methods will remove allt he gelcoat. Chemically remove them then cover with new gelcoat? I wonder what the situation was on the ferry across? An angle grinder would spray maybe a small part of the boat but this is all over? Was it stored at port next to some machine shop or something?
Between you and the Wynns - I feel like almost all possible boat problems have happened. lol I hope everything works out and we see Ruby Rose cruising around the Med really soon!
I was thinking the very same thing.
Nah, way more are possible....
I think the magnificent Wynns Hull #3 HH 44 "Hybrid" Cat being the first of its configuration (no dagger boards HH44) is more in the experimental design, test and evluation category vs being in the "proven production" category like the HH Ruby Rose. The Rose being a gorgus vessel and probabley as well designed as any non racing Cat can get.
The 44 Hybrid was something the adventurous Wynn's knowingly wanted to film for their series and get to participate in with HH. One should separate the mishaps and malfunctions on both vessels from the vendor supplied items like the refrigerator, water maker etc from the carbon fiber hulls fabricated by HH.
When stainless steel bolts and weldments are bleeding rust, it's because the stainless steel was not passivated after fabrication was completed. Stainless steel does not rust. However, the ferrous material that settles onto the stainless inside a steel fab shop will eventually rust and make it appear as if the stainless steel is rusting.
Yes..thinking along those lines. This company might of "slipped in" some bogus stainless steel bolts.
By the way a "clanging haylyard" and the noise it makes has a name for it. It is caĺled " The devils tattoo".
Nick: "Turkish breakfast is great but sometimes you fancy beans....."
To add to the previous comment, it is not an easy repair.
Years ago I ran a New Car Dealership in Ohio. GM started shipping vehicles by rail to save on shipping. We noticed rust spots in the paint. It was rust from the wheels and brakes.
Buffing did NOT fix the problem. The vehicles had to be wet sanded and clear coat had to be reapplied. The factory paid for everything, as they should have! They started covering all rail cars.
Sorry mate you have serious damage!
Nick, You've left your beautiful guitar out in the tropical sun . . . Shame on you . . mind you; typical for a leftie . . . haha go well
Terysa is looking remarkably well for being hung over. I've been following several channels which have a case of the new boat blues. Nothing that floats is immune to the need for constant repair.
What is yoru guess as to how / why the rust problem developed? It seems like a unique situation.
Get some flat fenders they are great.
How do you flush all those little particles out of those hard to reach places to make sure in the future? You don't get more rest in those small nooks and crannies
Good for 7 Star. If I ever need to ship my boat, they will be at the top of my list.
What?? Even though they soldered next to client boats???!!
Well, that’s one way to get over hangover, wedge your catamaran into a concrete basin, Next time try aspirin and a long walk. 😳😳
If that was my boat I'd be looking for the insurer to send me somewhere for a week while they deal with it. You can't live on a boat on the hard, and Nick and Theresa have family all over greece.
You should now declare that RUST is a reverse sponsor of the channel.
Bahahaha!
Have to love how these boat builders charge for their boats and the delivery and quality is beyond ridiculous. I’ve purchased exotic cars that you could eat of the engine compartment and quality was top drawer….I’m just happy some of the boat builders aren’t building airplanes…
Why wasn’t boat wrapped for its transit?
It's simply not normal, you berth alongside the waiting carrier, you're craned aboard, and chocked, lashed down on deck. Rig and stanchions in place. How on earth would the crew wrap the boat? Of course, if you come out of factory/yard flat packed rig off and are craned from the dock, its a possibility, but not with a wet lift, or floating into a submersible deck yacht carrier.
Ive shipped two boats across the Atlantic, neither was wrapped, and neither suffered the idiocy of someone angle grinding.
I have however suffered rust damage ashore due to someone shot-blasting a steel structure nearby. As with RR2, it took 100's of hours of remedial work
Really? Are you the one who suggested putting seatbelts on motorbikes.
@@faraway5828 Yachts are routinely wrapped when coming out of the water to winter over on the hard at my marina....
@@faraway5828 The time to wrap a boat Vs the time to fix this damage. You decide.....
@@davidwebb4904 I'd suggest that lifting a boat ashore to the facilities of a yard ashore is entirely different proposition to craning a boat on to a ship
Technical question: antifoul on the prop - yes or no?