Sweet boat, I have a PH Moody Carbineer 44 from 71 so much older but super safe. As you say bigger boat problems grow exponentially I’ve found. Andy UK
Your boat is beautiful! Porter is ready to see the world, having fur baby is the best. I’m looking forward to your journeys. Ignore the negative comments from jealous people❤ be safe - sail on😊
Found your channel, its great. Love seeing all you are doing to upgrade, refit, and make her seaworthy. Now starting a marathon of watching all your past videos and so much looking forward to the next one. Do not leave anything out please.
Greetings from Vancouver Island! 🦅 Congratulations! We're thrilled to have found your channel as you refit Ciao Bella and embark on your adventures. All the best! ⚓️
Awesome to see her finally sold. I actually had plans to check her out then COVID hit which killed travel options and ended buying something much closer to home. This spring I was in the area and noticed she was still listed years later and got myself aboard. Very strange fit out as it looks like she crossed from CA and was just left to sit, no real options for cruising except for the water maker. Hope you got a deal as the Hawaii sun has taken a toll on her, which you already know. I’d add replacing the standing rigging to your chore list before taking her back to AK. Do a lot of shake downs as boat gremlins can do a lot of havoc on a boat that has been sitting for at least 12 years. Good Luck! Oh and get rid of that wanky solar ‘arch’, I wouldn’t trust that offshore.
Aloha from the Big Island. If you take a hoseans suck from the bottom of the fuel tank you can suck out most of the water and algae out of the fuel tank. Then filter the rest of the fuel. You may have to do it a few times to get most of the junk. Thank You for taking us on your journey. Until next time Aloha from the Big Island of Hawaii! Aloha and cheers 🍻
You have a wonderful boat. I hope the things you do ensure a safe passage. I'm really glad I didn't hear about you a year ago when my wife was pushing me to sell our Whitby 55. It has a diesel heater which we will never use as we don't like sailing in cold weather. Things were tight and we would have let it go for half of what it is worth...well, worth is a bit misleading. A new version of it, the Krakens, are selling for about 1.8 million. Anyway, we hope to get back out there cruising in 18 months. Our Whitby is hull #2 of 3 but from a boat builder who built over 3,000 solid boats in the 30s and 40s foot range, so I know what you mean by special.
I looked at this boat when she was for sale, and did not understand why she didn't sell more quickly. I would guess she was listed for at least 2 years. Very nice boat. Best of luck with her.
Having spent 2years with boats in the ala wai do not underestimate the way the environment affects electrical systems, and absolutely you will have to get an on board fuel polishing system, do it don’t think about it
I really keep my fingers crossed for you guys. Like so many "newbies " you choose to buy a really big boat, a boat you don't need! You'll find the costs of maintaining it a constant worry. So...🤞🤞🤞
@@theovanveen5375 thank you. This is our third boat and I (Dave) work on boats professionally for work. Our Catalina was too small for us and didn’t fit our cruising plans. If we get into detail, the new boat is only 37’ at the waterline 😅
Thank you :) we installed a Mabru 12V air conditioning unit on Bria Mia (our old boat), and are about to install it on the new boat. We have a standing A/C unit right now for our dog, but can't wait to get rid of it as its HUGE and a total eyesore. Hopefully we'll have the 12V A/C unit installed by next week. If we didn't already have the 12V A/C unit, we probably would have waited to install (if at all) an A/C unit until later next year, maybe when we hit Mexico.
Yay, congratulations on the new boat. It’s been fun watching your journey. Are you finishing up your degrees soon? What do you plan to do after schooling ends?
@@michaellau5645 thank you! Christy graduated with a masters of science in 2023 and I (Dave) graduated in 2020 with a BA in Environmental Studies. We’re planning on sailing to Alaska this spring and down the west coast following that.
@@The808Sailors look forward to your adventures. I live in Kaimuki and grew up sailing small boats on the east coast. I might be getting too old to live your dream, do it while you are young and able!!
On the polishing, Pumps push. The polishing filters should be after the pump. Fit a trash filter before it with very low resistance. Once you have polished down to five fit a one micron filter and do it again I'd suggest a good dose of biocide now that you have disturbed everything. Also, you didn't say, but though the engine looks new plan on replacing and having spares for all belts and hoses and impellers on it as sitting idle for years they perish just from age.
Aloha from the 800 dock at Ala Wai! We sailed here from Seattle via Mexico and Central America. Let us know if you ever want to grab Mai tai's at the Harbor Pub! :)
Just curious why you chose this particular boat, apart from price. All the boats you looked at seemed at the very heavy displacement end which I am also curious about.
@@deerfootnz we were looking for something to comfortably cruise in a mix of hot and cold climates. The comfort ratio of this boat is considerably high which means we’ll get beat up a lot less than on our old Catalina 34. It surprised Christy and I as it sailed very nicely in about 12 knots of wind with a reefed main and full Genoa. Hoping to do some more shakedown sails soon
Hi :) we purchased the boat for $160k. We had been saving $ every chance we could get since 2020, and my (christy) father passed away in June and left a small inheritance. We are also planning on selling Bria Mia (our old boat) with a highly valuable slip, which will supplement the cost of the boat and repairs/upgrades.
That boats in beautiful internal condition .. Scrub the hull, tanks, lines and sails and she will be great. Get a strap wrench or Boa wrench for gripping plastic parts and filter removals If you can open your roof hatches ..heat flows upwards cold flows down....meantime blinds and noseeum screens will pay back double...and Mosquitos 🦟 are on the move carrying new and old problems with them 😉🤞🏻👍🏻🧙🏼♂️🇬🇧
$160K. "...Stopped working",".....leaking", " ....lots of things to do," "....replacing all the lighting," "...fuel dirty,".... So tell me again, why is this your dream boat?
@ dream boats have to be brand new without any problems? I delivered two brand new custom beach catamarans across the pacific that was someone’s dream boat and it still had problems. This boat can take us where we want to go although we have to put some work into it before hand. To us, it’s worth it but to others it might not be.
those screw on wire connectors are just fine for houses, but not boats. Boats move and flex way too much. My advice is to replace them all with crimp on connectors.
Yeah, don't forget to clean those tanks completely. So many boats have problems with growth in the tanks and it will clog everything. A fuel polishing system is for after you have cleaned the tanks. It will not clean the tanks for you.
The tank/fuel issue is proving to be quite the challenge...Because we were in a time crunch to move the boat from one marina to the next on island, we first hired a professional to treat and polish the >200 gallons of diesel in three black iron, baffled tanks. After maybe two hours, their polisher broke :( that's why we attempted to make our own. I think it's working, but you're totally right, it's not cleaning the tanks. In an ideal scenario, we'd get rid of the junk diesel and get new SS tanks put in. That kind of job might have to wait for the west coast, unfortunately.
@@The808Sailors The thing that many don't know is that there is an organism that grows in diesel as long as there is water present. It's almost impossible to keep water out of a tank due to condensation. This stuff attaches itself to the tank at the bottom. Pieces of it will die off and move around on the bottom of the tank. When motoring offshore that stuff gets up a bit and then sucked into the lines and clogs the lines. If I remember rightly, the stuff is white when it's alive and gray when it's dead. Most, including me many years ago, think it is caulking but it isn't. That stuff you pulled out might be very small chunks. Hard to tell, but it is the bigger chunks down there that are the real problem and will clog your lines if you motor offshore. The only way I could get it all out is by hand on my Hunter which only had a plastic 37 gallon tank. I don't know what I will do on our Whitby with it's built in fiberglass tanks, each 150 gallons with baffles. The fuel is already almost 5 years old so I guess I will hire a professional before we leave in 2026. I added a fuel additive to prevent growth but have no idea if it worked or not. One idea I had many years ago when this was a problem was to cut the pickup hose shorter and add a bubble screen on it, so that there would never be a suction that would suck it up into the tube or to clog the screen. Maybe you can try that and let me know how it works.
New Subscriber -- QUESTION -- You now have my fav sailboat and in near perfect condition so we now hate you just a little bit :) We wanted to take this up the Inside Passage and spend two years exploring all the way to Alaska and back. Any chance you guys will go that way? Also, would you want to sell it to us for mid year 2027 when we will be ready to start our voyage? (seriously).
Haha, mahalo for the support! She's a gem! Right now, our cruising plans take us up to Alaska late-Spring 2025 (perhaps Kodiak?) and down the Inside Passage. IF we love it up there, we'll stay for a bit. Otherwise, the plan is to take her down to Mexico by Winter 2025. No solid plans after that. Around Spring 2026, we have some options, but realistically I don't see us leaving the Pacific anytime soon. My guess, 2026 will look like a bit of Central America and onwards to the South Pacific, *maybe* back up to HI for cyclone season, and back down the following Spring 2027...but the future remains untold! Who knows? In 2030 we might be cruising through Mars with a fleet of interplanetary yachts, dodging space debris and complaining about the WiFi. The ocean is the limit, right?
@@The808Sailors ...fair enough! We look forward to the PNW videos for sure. Please do not cut into the woodwork or drill holes and hang stuff all over "our" beautiful sailboat! We shall see where we all are in our lives in 2027... Who knows...
How old is the rigging? If you don't know, don't go anywhere without replacing it. What seems good now may not be 500 miles later at sea. I had a mast come down on me and I gotta tell ya, it ain't fun. Rigging should be replaced every 10 years. In the middle of the northern Pacific is no place to have a mast come down.
@@The808Sailors For my Whitby, it cost me 24K including labor but that is a ketch and they had to rebuild the genoa furler. My 37' Hunter it cost me 8K just for the parts. That is the boat where the mast came off in the Caribbean sea. Luckily we were just 25 miles from an island. Guess what happened after the mast came down? The fitting for the fuel line at the tank got clogged with growth which was not easy to get to in rough seas and no sails to stabilize the boat. Yep, I committed all the sins so I know which advice to give :) Here is the funny part. I was in Panama, Bocas Del Toro and they didn't have a rigger there. I wanted to replace it and had plans on going back to Bahamas so I decided I would get it done there. The rigging was 17 years old. Guess what broke? A 10 cent cotter pin for the forestay aloft and I had gone up and inspected it before I left. That is what I mean, just because it seems good before you leave doesn't mean you will not have a problem. I now have a rule that all cotter pins should be replaced every 3 years. I ignored that rule on our Whitby and it almost cost me. On our trip back to Texas after the virus hit, the cotter pin for the forestay at the deck came out. I saw it laying on the bow roller a week later at the marina. Got lucky the pin didn't come out.
@@flyboykfpr rich parents don’t make you rich. Our parents are far from it and did not help us purchase this. However, we do feel very fortunate and it’s taken a lot to just get to this point. Hope your parents are rich!!
I am going to throw up. I watched 7 minutes and had to stop - the camera and zoom never stop. My 3 year old granddaughter films like this. A steady camera is a soothing camera
Sweet boat, I have a PH Moody Carbineer 44 from 71 so much older but super safe. As you say bigger boat problems grow exponentially I’ve found. Andy UK
❤ nice boat guys. 😊👍🌏🐬🎅
Your boat is beautiful! Porter is ready to see the world, having fur baby is the best. I’m looking forward to your journeys. Ignore the negative comments from jealous people❤ be safe - sail on😊
Congrats on the new boat! That pilothouse is going to be pretty sweet for high latitude sailing. Also, great job on the vlogging, you're killing it 👍
Found your channel, its great. Love seeing all you are doing to upgrade, refit, and make her seaworthy. Now starting a marathon of watching all your past videos and so much looking forward to the next one. Do not leave anything out please.
Greetings from Vancouver Island! 🦅 Congratulations! We're thrilled to have found your channel as you refit Ciao Bella and embark on your adventures. All the best! ⚓️
Captain Dawg gave it two thumbs up...
I searched that boat online.. really liked her in the adverts.
Nice boat. Lots of awesome memories coming..........
Beautiful boat!
Awesome to see her finally sold. I actually had plans to check her out then COVID hit which killed travel options and ended buying something much closer to home. This spring I was in the area and noticed she was still listed years later and got myself aboard. Very strange fit out as it looks like she crossed from CA and was just left to sit, no real options for cruising except for the water maker.
Hope you got a deal as the Hawaii sun has taken a toll on her, which you already know. I’d add replacing the standing rigging to your chore list before taking her back to AK. Do a lot of shake downs as boat gremlins can do a lot of havoc on a boat that has been sitting for at least 12 years. Good Luck!
Oh and get rid of that wanky solar ‘arch’, I wouldn’t trust that offshore.
Epic!
Aloha from the Big Island. If you take a hoseans suck from the bottom of the fuel tank you can suck out most of the water and algae out of the fuel tank. Then filter the rest of the fuel. You may have to do it a few times to get most of the junk.
Thank You for taking us on your journey.
Until next time Aloha from the Big Island of Hawaii!
Aloha and cheers 🍻
You have a wonderful boat. I hope the things you do ensure a safe passage. I'm really glad I didn't hear about you a year ago when my wife was pushing me to sell our Whitby 55. It has a diesel heater which we will never use as we don't like sailing in cold weather. Things were tight and we would have let it go for half of what it is worth...well, worth is a bit misleading. A new version of it, the Krakens, are selling for about 1.8 million. Anyway, we hope to get back out there cruising in 18 months.
Our Whitby is hull #2 of 3 but from a boat builder who built over 3,000 solid boats in the 30s and 40s foot range, so I know what you mean by special.
I looked at this boat when she was for sale, and did not understand why she didn't sell more quickly. I would guess she was listed for at least 2 years. Very nice boat. Best of luck with her.
wow, nice homepage ... and a wonderful boat and crew 🎉
Having spent 2years with boats in the ala wai do not underestimate the way the environment affects electrical systems, and absolutely you will have to get an on board fuel polishing system, do it don’t think about it
I really keep my fingers crossed for you guys. Like so many "newbies " you choose to buy a really big boat, a boat you don't need! You'll find the costs of maintaining it a constant worry. So...🤞🤞🤞
@@theovanveen5375 thank you. This is our third boat and I (Dave) work on boats professionally for work. Our Catalina was too small for us and didn’t fit our cruising plans. If we get into detail, the new boat is only 37’ at the waterline 😅
Good job 👍 on the boat decision and the video.I watched all the way and really enjoyed so I subscribed to follow your journey
Sweet ride 🛎️
Congratulations.. great info on anchoring … pilot house a must … so hot in ala wai but lots of access to shops .any plans for AC on the boat ?
Thank you :) we installed a Mabru 12V air conditioning unit on Bria Mia (our old boat), and are about to install it on the new boat. We have a standing A/C unit right now for our dog, but can't wait to get rid of it as its HUGE and a total eyesore. Hopefully we'll have the 12V A/C unit installed by next week. If we didn't already have the 12V A/C unit, we probably would have waited to install (if at all) an A/C unit until later next year, maybe when we hit Mexico.
Yay, congratulations on the new boat. It’s been fun watching your journey. Are you finishing up your degrees soon? What do you plan to do after schooling ends?
@@michaellau5645 thank you! Christy graduated with a masters of science in 2023 and I (Dave) graduated in 2020 with a BA in Environmental Studies. We’re planning on sailing to Alaska this spring and down the west coast following that.
@@The808Sailors look forward to your adventures. I live in Kaimuki and grew up sailing small boats on the east coast. I might be getting too old to live your dream, do it while you are young and able!!
On the polishing, Pumps push. The polishing filters should be after the pump. Fit a trash filter before it with very low resistance. Once you have polished down to five fit a one micron filter and do it again I'd suggest a good dose of biocide now that you have disturbed everything. Also, you didn't say, but though the engine looks new plan on replacing and having spares for all belts and hoses and impellers on it as sitting idle for years they perish just from age.
Congratulations 🎊 😊
I'll be in Hawaii the 17th through 28th. Lets hang out!
Aloha from the 800 dock at Ala Wai! We sailed here from Seattle via Mexico and Central America. Let us know if you ever want to grab Mai tai's at the Harbor Pub! :)
The only way to sort the fuel , is empty the tank , and clean it , at sea what's in there will get lifted from the bottom, been there .
Robert Harris is the designer
Nice yacht...
Do you get to keep the slip? It took me three years on a waiting list to stay in the Ala Wai.
Nope, we're 'transient'. The 120 days reset each calendar year, so we'll try and spend four months here next year, too.
Just curious why you chose this particular boat, apart from price. All the boats you looked at seemed at the very heavy displacement end which I am also curious about.
@@deerfootnz we were looking for something to comfortably cruise in a mix of hot and cold climates. The comfort ratio of this boat is considerably high which means we’ll get beat up a lot less than on our old Catalina 34. It surprised Christy and I as it sailed very nicely in about 12 knots of wind with a reefed main and full Genoa. Hoping to do some more shakedown sails soon
@The808Sailors ok thank you. We clearly have very different ideas on "ideal" cruising boats, but that's all good!
Designer is Robert Perry? Not Paris? If I heard correctly.
Robert Harris, not Perry :)
Congrats, beautiful and practical! Just wondering how did you get the 300-350k being grad students
Hi :) we purchased the boat for $160k. We had been saving $ every chance we could get since 2020, and my (christy) father passed away in June and left a small inheritance. We are also planning on selling Bria Mia (our old boat) with a highly valuable slip, which will supplement the cost of the boat and repairs/upgrades.
@@The808Sailors Very sorry for your loss and thanks for explaining, fair winds!
That boats in beautiful internal condition ..
Scrub the hull, tanks, lines and sails and she will be great.
Get a strap wrench or Boa wrench for gripping plastic parts and filter removals
If you can open your roof hatches ..heat flows upwards cold flows down....meantime blinds and noseeum screens will pay back double...and Mosquitos 🦟 are on the move carrying new and old problems with them 😉🤞🏻👍🏻🧙🏼♂️🇬🇧
$160K. "...Stopped working",".....leaking", " ....lots of things to do," "....replacing all the lighting," "...fuel dirty,".... So tell me again, why is this your dream boat?
@ dream boats have to be brand new without any problems? I delivered two brand new custom beach catamarans across the pacific that was someone’s dream boat and it still had problems. This boat can take us where we want to go although we have to put some work into it before hand. To us, it’s worth it but to others it might not be.
those screw on wire connectors are just fine for houses, but not boats. Boats move and flex way too much. My advice is to replace them all with crimp on connectors.
Thank you for the advice! I was wondering about that. I will definitely replace with crimp connectors.
Yeah, don't forget to clean those tanks completely. So many boats have problems with growth in the tanks and it will clog everything. A fuel polishing system is for after you have cleaned the tanks. It will not clean the tanks for you.
The tank/fuel issue is proving to be quite the challenge...Because we were in a time crunch to move the boat from one marina to the next on island, we first hired a professional to treat and polish the >200 gallons of diesel in three black iron, baffled tanks. After maybe two hours, their polisher broke :( that's why we attempted to make our own. I think it's working, but you're totally right, it's not cleaning the tanks. In an ideal scenario, we'd get rid of the junk diesel and get new SS tanks put in. That kind of job might have to wait for the west coast, unfortunately.
@@The808Sailors The thing that many don't know is that there is an organism that grows in diesel as long as there is water present. It's almost impossible to keep water out of a tank due to condensation. This stuff attaches itself to the tank at the bottom. Pieces of it will die off and move around on the bottom of the tank. When motoring offshore that stuff gets up a bit and then sucked into the lines and clogs the lines.
If I remember rightly, the stuff is white when it's alive and gray when it's dead. Most, including me many years ago, think it is caulking but it isn't. That stuff you pulled out might be very small chunks. Hard to tell, but it is the bigger chunks down there that are the real problem and will clog your lines if you motor offshore. The only way I could get it all out is by hand on my Hunter which only had a plastic 37 gallon tank. I don't know what I will do on our Whitby with it's built in fiberglass tanks, each 150 gallons with baffles. The fuel is already almost 5 years old so I guess I will hire a professional before we leave in 2026. I added a fuel additive to prevent growth but have no idea if it worked or not.
One idea I had many years ago when this was a problem was to cut the pickup hose shorter and add a bubble screen on it, so that there would never be a suction that would suck it up into the tube or to clog the screen. Maybe you can try that and let me know how it works.
New Subscriber -- QUESTION -- You now have my fav sailboat and in near perfect condition so we now hate you just a little bit :) We wanted to take this up the Inside Passage and spend two years exploring all the way to Alaska and back. Any chance you guys will go that way? Also, would you want to sell it to us for mid year 2027 when we will be ready to start our voyage? (seriously).
Haha, mahalo for the support! She's a gem! Right now, our cruising plans take us up to Alaska late-Spring 2025 (perhaps Kodiak?) and down the Inside Passage. IF we love it up there, we'll stay for a bit. Otherwise, the plan is to take her down to Mexico by Winter 2025. No solid plans after that. Around Spring 2026, we have some options, but realistically I don't see us leaving the Pacific anytime soon. My guess, 2026 will look like a bit of Central America and onwards to the South Pacific, *maybe* back up to HI for cyclone season, and back down the following Spring 2027...but the future remains untold! Who knows? In 2030 we might be cruising through Mars with a fleet of interplanetary yachts, dodging space debris and complaining about the WiFi. The ocean is the limit, right?
@@The808Sailors ...fair enough! We look forward to the PNW videos for sure. Please do not cut into the woodwork or drill holes and hang stuff all over "our" beautiful sailboat! We shall see where we all are in our lives in 2027... Who knows...
Congrats on new boat,p s.what happened to Brian mia
Thank you!!! We are selling her soon, probably will list her before the new year.
How old is the rigging? If you don't know, don't go anywhere without replacing it. What seems good now may not be 500 miles later at sea. I had a mast come down on me and I gotta tell ya, it ain't fun. Rigging should be replaced every 10 years. In the middle of the northern Pacific is no place to have a mast come down.
Original. We got a quote for $17k 💀 That was without installation labor. It's on the list!
@@The808Sailors For my Whitby, it cost me 24K including labor but that is a ketch and they had to rebuild the genoa furler. My 37' Hunter it cost me 8K just for the parts. That is the boat where the mast came off in the Caribbean sea. Luckily we were just 25 miles from an island. Guess what happened after the mast came down? The fitting for the fuel line at the tank got clogged with growth which was not easy to get to in rough seas and no sails to stabilize the boat. Yep, I committed all the sins so I know which advice to give :)
Here is the funny part. I was in Panama, Bocas Del Toro and they didn't have a rigger there. I wanted to replace it and had plans on going back to Bahamas so I decided I would get it done there. The rigging was 17 years old. Guess what broke? A 10 cent cotter pin for the forestay aloft and I had gone up and inspected it before I left. That is what I mean, just because it seems good before you leave doesn't mean you will not have a problem. I now have a rule that all cotter pins should be replaced every 3 years.
I ignored that rule on our Whitby and it almost cost me. On our trip back to Texas after the virus hit, the cotter pin for the forestay at the deck came out. I saw it laying on the bow roller a week later at the marina. Got lucky the pin didn't come out.
looks expensive
Your very lucky to have rich parents so you can buy a boat like this and travel while you are so young. I hope you realize just how fortunate you are.
@@flyboykfpr rich parents don’t make you rich. Our parents are far from it and did not help us purchase this. However, we do feel very fortunate and it’s taken a lot to just get to this point. Hope your parents are rich!!
You Talk like a Maschine Gun
Ikk. Head repairs are taboo content for me. Deal breaker boat, all systems fucked
That’s such a dumb remark lol you get such loosers filled with hate and envy on here … get a grip
Pet obsessed people are so annoying. Just make yourself a kid instead of substituting your parental instincts with a dog.
Fur Baby > Skin Dog
Worry about yourself and let people make their own choices….
I am going to throw up. I watched 7 minutes and had to stop - the camera and zoom never stop. My 3 year old granddaughter films like this. A steady camera is a soothing camera
I love pets.
@@brentisaacson Go watch security camera footage then
Yous got a nice boat Tiana is a good brand thanks for sharing.