The animal loves that creature that provides and cares for it. So it is natural for that man to want to honour UG in such a way. I myself have a certain kind of love for UG. I can say that in one sense he saved my life. Saved my sanity anyway. Or at least gave me the answer I was looking for, which is that hopelessness isn't the end, just the end of delusion. This experiencing structure I call me, a human, continues on regardless and with the most basic needs satisfied and not letting thought rule I can have what some might call peace. It is our various belief structures, which we demand must be true and consistent, these cause us so much suffering and torture as we try to make them logically coherent. But they can't be, because only the whole can be consistent. A tiny part of the whole will have gaps that can never be bridged. And so we endlessly argue and fight for the peace we believe our culture will bring, never realising that it is the demands our culture places upon us that create the fear in the first place.
Human problem: The habit of exaggeration in everything (people, things, places, memories, beliefs, dreams). Just embrace simplicity, the ordinary. Stop this desire to be extra ordinary...
pressure from family and shitty freinds/women keep pressuring some extraordinary character that I'm supposed to be. I'm really just a laid back introvert who's content with being considered average. I just to breath easy and smile. ambitions stress me out and I'd rather take a pay cut to keep my inner peace.
It sounds nice and to be a pure and honest goal but far from being reachable to me because of our genetical and neurological system. Anyway thanks for your nice comment…
@@jeffborelo8334 Making it simpler, it means to drop the pleasures as much as possible and spend more time understanding others, self and honing your skills
The subconscious obsessive drive to be "extraordinary" seems to lead insanity. I want this, I want that and so on... you can see this neurosis and insanity all over the World.
15:35 When he breaks down the art of sex and it's biological purpose. It lacks any correlation to our thoughts, when our thoughts leave us alone. 20:40 When he explains how we aren't in need of sex, biologically and how to have sex casually is born out of thought, to experience a feeling of orgasm, which often only lasts up to 4 to 8 seconds or as he used the 'peak moment.' 21:58 The fad of making sex more interesting. How it often leads into addiction and it's why two people become committed into a romantic relationship; it almost always lack romance, although it correlates 'love' on the frontier. 47:46 "I am not interested in winning you over to my point of view, because I have no point of view."
He is atleast truer if not complete, bcz no one can. He is more aware than a usual person. And some of us are living in that state...sudden snap or gradual, but seeking allows to realize that there is nothing you can do and nothing to seek...Play in this Leela without any fanaticism, without associating much with any person or school of thought...and get your exit :)
I think the facts are exaggerated. Divorce rates in the American regions may be a little higher than other parts of the world, but I also for a fact know that the internet derived statistics are quite false.
Better than, couples carrying on in utter bitterness, voilence & ruining the childrens childhood.. I’d rather have many half brother, sisters & a large family
There is no right or wrong! This is the message! Only the “me” can say it is right or wrong! If he was right you could change your mind to follow and practice this truth! But you can’t! Because there is no you!
In the world There is no right or wrong It is only a state You must be happy with your state Disliking one state is hatred Liking another state is greed Both hatred and greed bring unhappiness So be happy with your state Cultivate internally Your state will change accordingly.
Exactly there is no truth's nor a right or wrong. All 3 words are created by the culture as to what is right or wrong. The body does not know of any of these thoughts till the YOU is told or else the thought would not have crossed the mind. Their is no YOU or I for that matter there is nothing their in place without having been told their is a YOU etc. People will never get it cause they are stuck in the idea their is a YOU a SELF.
M K Santhanam I have conversed with him in his last days and translated his biography in Tamil. In this interview he is mild like a slow breeze. But in his later years he was like a storm. Yes in the the sage after undergoing biological mutation thought takes a back seat and he loses the urge for sex. That is why one doubts J Krishnamirti whose " sexapade" was exposed layer by Mis Sloss in a book Kuckold's nest(?)
this is fundamentally true both in individualism (see capitalism and its forms) or communitarianism (socialism and its varieties). The only difference between capitalism and socialism is that in capitalism it's the selfishness of the rich whereas socialism glorifies the selfishness of the poor. Both political system are born out of our greed. Anarchism seems to be the only viable option but even that comes in various flavours influenced by the two "isms" mentioned above. Also a decentralised system will never succeed conquering either of the hierarchical structures based on fear and accumulation of wealth. Our only true option is to realise that the ship is sinking and abandon it before it takes us with it, then some form of anarchy could surface from the realisation that the existing hierarchical structures are outdated and will inevitably lead to the collapse of the entire human civilisation.
He was a man that was pessimistic.That is something we al have inside us.If we know it we can chence our mind.Then we started a prosses to beeing more positive.That is he's messige to us.We can't control feelings. But we can see that we inside us are innocent.He is what I can understand christian beliver.Something inside me came up and that is what life is.It is a repetitions we thinking thoughts driving us. to war to peace to love.In our selfe we are seekings.That we giving nature mature living life we are supost to bee.
Dead business everywhere dead things collection life nature universe keep naturally end is nothingness dust to dust nothingness empty hands journey honour
he says "as long as you need a man for your sexual needs so long,you are not a free person. then the exploitation begins, goes on and on..." I don't get it really
@@joepineapples3532 thanks but I didn't think he was talking about feminism. Also it's a bit of a harsh way to see any sexual relationship in terms of exploitation. Maybe they are?
@@becontent176 Essentially, he's saying that at least 95% of romantic relationships are predicated on what one partner can get out of the other, then vice versa. But instead, they say "we're in love." when in actuality, they are not, until the other is of no use. He often explains how by default, most humans who are in relationships and resort to being mushy, lovey-dovey with one another are cowardice, due to the fear of being alone. So he explicates that they are weak-willed human beings, because their thoughts have got a grip on who they can only "think" that they are. He also points out how our physiology doesn't care, nor does it even know anything about "being in love" and "relationships." These are man made conceptualizations, which is prevalent in music, cinema, or Hollywood. Akin to this, now our psyche is driven by consumerism. So in the end, we're lying to ourselves. You're free until you don't need anyone or anything. But most of humanity have too many needs because their parasitic thoughts are running the show, along with attracting a mate. Practically what he is saying, based on your quote of him.
"You are burdened with hope." - U. G. Krishnamurti
"... And because of that, you will die in Hope. Good luck to you."
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The animal loves that creature that provides and cares for it. So it is natural for that man to want to honour UG in such a way. I myself have a certain kind of love for UG. I can say that in one sense he saved my life. Saved my sanity anyway. Or at least gave me the answer I was looking for, which is that hopelessness isn't the end, just the end of delusion. This experiencing structure I call me, a human, continues on regardless and with the most basic needs satisfied and not letting thought rule I can have what some might call peace. It is our various belief structures, which we demand must be true and consistent, these cause us so much suffering and torture as we try to make them logically coherent. But they can't be, because only the whole can be consistent. A tiny part of the whole will have gaps that can never be bridged. And so we endlessly argue and fight for the peace we believe our culture will bring, never realising that it is the demands our culture places upon us that create the fear in the first place.
Human problem: The habit of exaggeration in everything (people, things, places, memories, beliefs, dreams). Just embrace simplicity, the ordinary. Stop this desire to be extra ordinary...
pressure from family and shitty freinds/women keep pressuring some extraordinary character that I'm supposed to be. I'm really just a laid back introvert who's content with being considered average. I just to breath easy and smile. ambitions stress me out and I'd rather take a pay cut to keep my inner peace.
It sounds nice and to be a pure and honest goal but far from being reachable to me because of our genetical and neurological system.
Anyway thanks for your nice comment…
@@jeffborelo8334 Making it simpler, it means to drop the pleasures as much as possible and spend more time understanding others, self and honing your skills
The subconscious obsessive drive to be "extraordinary" seems to lead insanity. I want this, I want that and so on... you can see this neurosis and insanity all over the World.
There is no way out.
Thanks so much
Thank you
15:35 When he breaks down the art of sex and it's biological purpose. It lacks any correlation to our thoughts, when our thoughts leave us alone.
20:40 When he explains how we aren't in need of sex, biologically and how to have sex casually is born out of thought, to experience a feeling of orgasm, which often only lasts up to 4 to 8 seconds or as he used the 'peak moment.'
21:58 The fad of making sex more interesting. How it often leads into addiction and it's why two people become committed into a romantic relationship; it almost always lack romance, although it correlates 'love' on the frontier.
47:46 "I am not interested in winning you over to my point of view, because I have no point of view."
i thought the discussion about the incest was interesting, good point.
He is atleast truer if not complete, bcz no one can. He is more aware than a usual person. And some of us are living in that state...sudden snap or gradual, but seeking allows to realize that there is nothing you can do and nothing to seek...Play in this Leela without any fanaticism, without associating much with any person or school of thought...and get your exit :)
Divorces in America ... put the old pics in the attic and put the pictures of new wife’s parents grandparents lol
I think the facts are exaggerated. Divorce rates in the American regions may be a little higher than other parts of the world, but I also for a fact know that the internet derived statistics are quite false.
Better than, couples carrying on in utter bitterness, voilence & ruining the childrens childhood.. I’d rather have many half brother, sisters & a large family
Excellent do discussion
Mid night stand ..lol.
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He's absolutely right but also absolutely useless.
truth is never useless
There is no right or wrong! This is the message! Only the “me” can say it is right or wrong! If he was right you could change your mind to follow and practice this truth! But you can’t! Because there is no you!
In the world
There is no right or wrong
It is only a state
You must be happy with your state
Disliking one state is hatred
Liking another state is greed
Both hatred and greed bring unhappiness
So be happy with your state
Cultivate internally
Your state will change accordingly.
Exactly there is no truth's nor a right or wrong. All 3 words are created by the culture as to what is right or wrong. The body does not know of any of these thoughts till the YOU is told or else the thought would not have crossed the mind. Their is no YOU or I for that matter there is nothing their in place without having been told their is a YOU etc. People will never get it cause they are stuck in the idea their is a YOU a SELF.
To be yourself is just another thought. What is yourself? As we are all a product of culture.
Sorry the name of the book by Sloss is Lives in the shadows of J krishnamurti
This book was quoted by U G to attack JK.
In which video did UG mention this book? Could u link?
I agree with sir KM Santhanam
M K Santhanam
I have conversed with him in his last days and translated his biography in Tamil.
In this interview he is mild like a slow breeze. But in his later years he was like a storm. Yes in the the sage after undergoing biological mutation thought takes a back seat and he loses the urge for sex. That is why one doubts J Krishnamirti whose " sexapade" was exposed layer by Mis Sloss in a book Kuckold's nest(?)
What was JK’s state of being? Was it same as or different from UG’s? I am so confused. I thought they were both ‘enlightened’ beings.
@@gnome1645 why even ask that question?
@@JJB1133x Why not answer that question?
@@gnome1645Enlightenment does not exist. Not in any form. There has never been an enlightened being…
the gurus are pimps haha
Even if there is a guru who may be a little sexually open, if he or she can guide seekers towards the ultimate purpose, the aim is achieved
@@chintamanivivek not to be rude, but what's the purpose?
@@jink1231 what's the purpose? Of sexuality, or abstinence, or conscious sexuality?
@@chintamanivivek there is none, no one cares, no one looks up at you. it's foolish and ignorant to the human body.
1:28-1:40
this is fundamentally true both in individualism (see capitalism and its forms) or communitarianism (socialism and its varieties). The only difference between capitalism and socialism is that in capitalism it's the selfishness of the rich whereas socialism glorifies the selfishness of the poor. Both political system are born out of our greed. Anarchism seems to be the only viable option but even that comes in various flavours influenced by the two "isms" mentioned above. Also a decentralised system will never succeed conquering either of the hierarchical structures based on fear and accumulation of wealth.
Our only true option is to realise that the ship is sinking and abandon it before it takes us with it, then some form of anarchy could surface from the realisation that the existing hierarchical structures are outdated and will inevitably lead to the collapse of the entire human civilisation.
The Philosophy of Mr K and UG are the same.
It's not a philosophy dumb ass ! Do you even listen ? Of course not, just your short sighted conclusions/delusions. XD
@@StarvEgoFeedSoul you are delusional?what is delusion?
@@StarvEgoFeedSoul may be teaching u can say ... Or what u wanna say this ??
@@anandsengar6602 barking, he is barking. "You" won't get it... Give up. Or keep listening, who knows.
@@StarvEgoFeedSoul you are always listening; you are choosing what to specifically hear by imposing your will on the silence.
Who is the man doing the interview ?
I believe that is Joel Staffelau
He was a man that was pessimistic.That is something we al have inside us.If we know it we can chence our mind.Then we started a prosses to beeing more positive.That is he's messige to us.We can't control feelings. But we can see that we inside us are innocent.He is what I can understand christian beliver.Something inside me came up and that is what life is.It is a repetitions we thinking thoughts driving us. to war to peace to love.In our selfe we are seekings.That we giving nature mature living life we are supost to bee.
Hes not really a pessimist, just more honest and idealistic about absurdities we take as normal
Both look same.
Who is the interviewer?
Joel Staffelau
Dead business everywhere dead things collection life nature universe keep naturally end is nothingness dust to dust nothingness empty hands journey honour
he says "as long as you need a man for your sexual needs so long,you are not a free person. then the exploitation begins, goes on and on..." I don't get it really
Hi. You cannot be a feminist and then depend on a man to please your sexual needs. Thats what he is saying and I agree.
@@joepineapples3532 thanks but I didn't think he was talking about feminism. Also it's a bit of a harsh way to see any sexual relationship in terms of exploitation. Maybe they are?
@@joepineapples3532 Nah
Yes it is the term exploitation that is a bit rough!
@@becontent176 Essentially, he's saying that at least 95% of romantic relationships are predicated on what one partner can get out of the other, then vice versa. But instead, they say "we're in love." when in actuality, they are not, until the other is of no use. He often explains how by default, most humans who are in relationships and resort to being mushy, lovey-dovey with one another are cowardice, due to the fear of being alone. So he explicates that they are weak-willed human beings, because their thoughts have got a grip on who they can only "think" that they are.
He also points out how our physiology doesn't care, nor does it even know anything about "being in love" and "relationships." These are man made conceptualizations, which is prevalent in music, cinema, or Hollywood. Akin to this, now our psyche is driven by consumerism. So in the end, we're lying to ourselves. You're free until you don't need anyone or anything. But most of humanity have too many needs because their parasitic thoughts are running the show, along with attracting a mate. Practically what he is saying, based on your quote of him.