The incomplete system was provided by Russia. RUclips will not allow me post the link in my comment but look up the following article, published by Večernji List, “Novi ruski pritisak na Hrvatsku: Isporučili smo vam S-300, gdje su nestale rakete?” The article also lists all the weapons Russia sold to Croatia during the Domvanski Rat. Russia practically armed Croatias entire Air Force, which is great because Serbs always boast about their brotherly relationship with Russia 😂..
@@ConflictReporter_ I have a random question for you, do you know if Croatia ever tried to get MiG-29’s during the war?? That’s one piece of military equipment I really wish they got during the war..
www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=www.kurir.rs/amp/3701175/kako-je-hrvatska-planirala-da-kupi-mig-29-prica-koja-je-trajala-15-godina-a-onda-su-amerikanci-stavili-rampu-i-rekli-kraj&ved=2ahUKEwim_M3PuIiGAxUWJhAIHTEqBtIQFnoECCMQAQ&usg=AOvVaw3fiQNn_GiQr620rvPJH0wm. I have only managed to find this article from a Serbian page Kurir.rs, altough I dont know if it is credible. Neverthelss mig-29 is truly a maginficent aircraft.
@@ConflictReporter_ interesting read, whether it’s true or not, I don’t know haha… Assuming for one second it’s true though, I think it would’ve been great if Croatia got MiG 29’s during the 1990’s, especially during the war. But I think by the 2010’s it was too outdated…
no croatian had never s300 it was fake models...i know people that worked building the models in factory duro dakovic ...its just was to scare the enemy
Though Croatia was nominally under sanctions, in reality it wasn't the case. That got a lot of western equipment, plus some eastern by origin. For example, it was known then that 2 pilots defected to Croatia in their MiG-21s. Later, one was shot down. So, Croatia should have had only one, right? But during a military parade or exibition back in the day, suddenly there were scores of 21s. How? They were transported to Croatia from former Easter Germany arsenal, despite the sanctions... The S-300 story is 100% true, though. They never got the radars.
It's just a lie Croatia did not have weapons, they had multiple M-84 tanks which were best tanks in Yugoslavia. Also JNA did not exist after 1992, Serbia after 1994 drop supporting off rebels in Croatia so they stay out weapons. Also Serb fighters like mig 29 were never used after 1992 in Croatia. After 1992 there was no Serbian military in Croatia but paramilitary which fill their ranks with volunteers which were mostly people in 40s and 50s
@@listopadni7782 We had some various weapons imported from Singapore.We have imported some Ultimax 5.56 machine guns and SAR-80 automatic rifles 5.56. and Anti-tank rocket launchers Ambroust. Later during the war, some Belgian F.A.L. automatic rifles 7,62 x 53(my favorite gun ever) and German G3s. Also some 40.00mm grenade launchers. There were probably more, but unfortunately ,everything came in smaller quantities so that 90% of the soldiers had mainly various versions of Kalashnikov automatic rifles and later towards the end of the war ERO (Croatian version of the Israeli UZI)
@@dzonikg28 Not true and you're lying🤔.This video will prove my statement at 2 min.of video , that the Yugoslav generals and the President of Serbia Milošević himself were indeed involved in the war on the territory of Croatia and Bosnia and Herzegovina together with the regular units of Jugoslavian peoples Army under their command in 1995.before operation Storm. ruclips.net/video/G_jOxBKFYU4/видео.html
@@listopadni7782 Eastern Germany 🤔but only some small arms,Trucks,warm winter uniforms,most stupid helmets (which few wanted to wear..so ugly and funny 😅🤣), mostly nothing too important or major.
Whatever the case was, I don't think Russia directly sent them the S-300, whether it was the whole system and they just didn't show it all, or whether they had just received certain components of the system. Most likely that arrived from the stockpiles of former East Germany or any of the former Soviet satellite states. At any event, given that Germany was already united at the time and a NATO member while those former Soviet satellites such as Hungary, Poland, Czech Republic...etc. were in the process of being admitted to NATO, the US didn't need this Croatian S-300. It already had full access to it. Btw...I might be wrong but I think they've shown more than just launchers for the S-300 system. At 2:18 and 2:23 you can see the S-300 missile. I did a quick google search and all I could find was the status of the Croatiam S-300 being classified...so who knows what machinations went on around that particular event. What is certain, 30 years ago that system was one of the best in the world and if nothing else, it had achieved the propaganda purpose, mainly by keeping Serbia from trying to help the only way they could - with its air force.
at 2:23 I read somewhere when writing the script that it is not s300 missile but rather some Yugoslav missile that i cannot remember the name of (I will post if i find it again).Nonetheless, interesting point.
Nope. They did not have it. They managed to buy lunch tubes from Ukraine and attach them to civilian truck and put them them on public display...which is basicaly a same as parading at millitary parade with sewege pipes. But it was usefull propaganda trick. And no, Nato did not need those "Croatian S300s" bcs they already had those from Bulgaria, Greece and former USSR republics...and those were complete S300 systems ( with radars, missiles, command unit etc)
@@ConflictReporter_ it has one of the poorest hit rates of all air defence systems. It isn't without reason that Israel at this moment decided replacing it. And also Saudi Arabia replaces its system. Many of the images claimed to be Russian bombs hitting appartement buildings in the Ukraine are in fact Patriot systems that went astray.
@@tankeriv I wouldnt say it sucks..... Ukrainians for example destroyed multiple S300 and even S400 (and that BEFORE any ATACMS). So what does suck more? To not able to protect itself or its surroundings or not a good hit rate/not the best precision? Depends on your view. So you are implying that Russians dont hit/never hit civilian objects? Dude, cmon...... they demolish the entire cities, even random videos which shows tanks hitting windows on appartment buildings and similar, and there were some of the video footage analysis including geolocations etc. (which proves it came from the east, not west). Sure, recently they dont do it anymore or to be precise, not as much as they used to do in the first 1 - 1.5 year or so of war but one of the reasons for it is probably because there are not as much towns currently in front of them, mostly some small to very small villages and non existent ones lol which means basically only: "land", surely they dont do it as much as Israel is doing it currently (before the current "pause" before they start advancing again in Rafah direction) but cmon.......
What???croatia killed serbs are you croat? U must be. Croatia fought for what independence half vas Serbian territories because ww , Hitler and croatia.
first learn how to spell, second there is no right for any country to lay claim on a teritory that is not historycally their teritory just because a high percentage of inhabitants are their nationality like serbia did and furthermore tried to kill the idea of croatian nation for years prior to ww2
Serbian territories??? you need to learn more and learn the truth. Serbs have never been part of Croatia until 20th century and if anyone owes territories to be returned it is them. they stole us east Syrmia. the real border is at Belgrade
The incomplete system was provided by Russia. RUclips will not allow me post the link in my comment but look up the following article, published by Večernji List, “Novi ruski pritisak na Hrvatsku: Isporučili smo vam S-300, gdje su nestale rakete?”
The article also lists all the weapons Russia sold to Croatia during the Domvanski Rat. Russia practically armed Croatias entire Air Force, which is great because Serbs always boast about their brotherly relationship with Russia 😂..
Yes i have seen that article. Very interesting.
@@ConflictReporter_ I have a random question for you, do you know if Croatia ever tried to get MiG-29’s during the war?? That’s one piece of military equipment I really wish they got during the war..
www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=www.kurir.rs/amp/3701175/kako-je-hrvatska-planirala-da-kupi-mig-29-prica-koja-je-trajala-15-godina-a-onda-su-amerikanci-stavili-rampu-i-rekli-kraj&ved=2ahUKEwim_M3PuIiGAxUWJhAIHTEqBtIQFnoECCMQAQ&usg=AOvVaw3fiQNn_GiQr620rvPJH0wm. I have only managed to find this article from a Serbian page Kurir.rs, altough I dont know if it is credible. Neverthelss mig-29 is truly a maginficent aircraft.
@@ConflictReporter_ interesting read, whether it’s true or not, I don’t know haha… Assuming for one second it’s true though, I think it would’ve been great if Croatia got MiG 29’s during the 1990’s, especially during the war. But I think by the 2010’s it was too outdated…
Absolutely
Yes. Later it was sold to Americans.
By traitors
@@listopadni7782 Why traitors? 🤔Look what America is giving to us now 🤨!
Ruka ruku mije !
@@damirglavas7940 nek nam daju patriote i F35-tice koje mozemo koristit bez njihovih odbobrenja
no croatian had never s300 it was fake models...i know people that worked building the models in factory duro dakovic ...its just was to scare the enemy
Though Croatia was nominally under sanctions, in reality it wasn't the case. That got a lot of western equipment, plus some eastern by origin.
For example, it was known then that 2 pilots defected to Croatia in their MiG-21s. Later, one was shot down. So, Croatia should have had only one, right? But during a military parade or exibition back in the day, suddenly there were scores of 21s. How? They were transported to Croatia from former Easter Germany arsenal, despite the sanctions...
The S-300 story is 100% true, though. They never got the radars.
List me that western equipment
@@listopadni7782 you have internet, try doing some research if you'd like to know more
It's just a lie Croatia did not have weapons, they had multiple M-84 tanks which were best tanks in Yugoslavia. Also JNA did not exist after 1992, Serbia after 1994 drop supporting off rebels in Croatia so they stay out weapons. Also Serb fighters like mig 29 were never used after 1992 in Croatia. After 1992 there was no Serbian military in Croatia but paramilitary which fill their ranks with volunteers which were mostly people in 40s and 50s
@@listopadni7782 We had some various weapons imported from Singapore.We have imported some Ultimax 5.56 machine guns and SAR-80 automatic rifles 5.56. and Anti-tank rocket launchers Ambroust.
Later during the war, some Belgian F.A.L. automatic rifles 7,62 x 53(my favorite gun ever) and German G3s. Also some 40.00mm grenade launchers. There were probably more, but unfortunately ,everything came in smaller quantities so that 90% of the soldiers had mainly various versions of Kalashnikov automatic rifles and later towards the end of the war ERO (Croatian version of the Israeli UZI)
@@dzonikg28 Not true and you're lying🤔.This video will prove my statement at 2 min.of video ,
that the Yugoslav generals and the President of Serbia Milošević himself were indeed involved in the war on the territory of Croatia and Bosnia and Herzegovina together with the regular units of Jugoslavian peoples Army under their command in 1995.before operation Storm.
ruclips.net/video/G_jOxBKFYU4/видео.html
There may have been an embargo but Germany and America supplied lots of arms to Croatia and thankyou to both our friends
Only Germany
and it was mostly East German weaponry
@@listopadni7782 Eastern Germany 🤔but only some small arms,Trucks,warm winter uniforms,most stupid helmets (which few wanted to wear..so ugly and funny 😅🤣), mostly nothing too important or major.
Whatever the case was, I don't think Russia directly sent them the S-300, whether it was the whole system and they just didn't show it all, or whether they had just received certain components of the system. Most likely that arrived from the stockpiles of former East Germany or any of the former Soviet satellite states.
At any event, given that Germany was already united at the time and a NATO member while those former Soviet satellites such as Hungary, Poland, Czech Republic...etc. were in the process of being admitted to NATO, the US didn't need this Croatian S-300. It already had full access to it.
Btw...I might be wrong but I think they've shown more than just launchers for the S-300 system. At 2:18 and 2:23 you can see the S-300 missile.
I did a quick google search and all I could find was the status of the Croatiam S-300 being classified...so who knows what machinations went on around that particular event.
What is certain, 30 years ago that system was one of the best in the world and if nothing else, it had achieved the propaganda purpose, mainly by keeping Serbia from trying to help the only way they could - with its air force.
at 2:23 I read somewhere when writing the script that it is not s300 missile but rather some Yugoslav missile that i cannot remember the name of (I will post if i find it again).Nonetheless, interesting point.
@@ConflictReporter_ I see. Thanks. 👍
What do you think? What happened to "s300"?
very likely it was sold to USA for training and research in early 2000's
Probably sold to America.🤔🤗
Its not enigma where the launcher is?? Nevada desert where us training against different sams systems
How do you know?
Nope. They did not have it. They managed to buy lunch tubes from Ukraine and attach them to civilian truck and put them them on public display...which is basicaly a same as parading at millitary parade with sewege pipes.
But it was usefull propaganda trick.
And no, Nato did not need those "Croatian S300s" bcs they already had those from Bulgaria, Greece and former USSR republics...and those were complete S300 systems ( with radars, missiles, command unit etc)
Yes. Croatia had it. And it was given to Americans.
I don't know weather the Americans have it. The Patriot system is still inferior to the S300 system.
They have since long time ago
@@markot9902 then why does the Patriot still sucks that bad??
Not doubting your word though.
Why do you think it is bad?
@@ConflictReporter_ it has one of the poorest hit rates of all air defence systems. It isn't without reason that Israel at this moment decided replacing it. And also Saudi Arabia replaces its system.
Many of the images claimed to be Russian bombs hitting appartement buildings in the Ukraine are in fact Patriot systems that went astray.
@@tankeriv I wouldnt say it sucks..... Ukrainians for example destroyed multiple S300 and even S400 (and that BEFORE any ATACMS). So what does suck more? To not able to protect itself or its surroundings or not a good hit rate/not the best precision? Depends on your view. So you are implying that Russians dont hit/never hit civilian objects? Dude, cmon...... they demolish the entire cities, even random videos which shows tanks hitting windows on appartment buildings and similar, and there were some of the video footage analysis including geolocations etc. (which proves it came from the east, not west). Sure, recently they dont do it anymore or to be precise, not as much as they used to do in the first 1 - 1.5 year or so of war but one of the reasons for it is probably because there are not as much towns currently in front of them, mostly some small to very small villages and non existent ones lol which means basically only: "land", surely they dont do it as much as Israel is doing it currently (before the current "pause" before they start advancing again in Rafah direction) but cmon.......
What???croatia killed serbs are you croat? U must be. Croatia fought for what independence half vas Serbian territories because ww , Hitler and croatia.
first learn how to spell, second there is no right for any country to lay claim on a teritory that is not historycally their teritory just because a high percentage of inhabitants are their nationality like serbia did and furthermore tried to kill the idea of croatian nation for years prior to ww2
Serbian territories??? you need to learn more and learn the truth. Serbs have never been part of Croatia until 20th century and if anyone owes territories to be returned it is them. they stole us east Syrmia. the real border is at Belgrade
Kad su tebe pustili iz ustanove?
Ne gusi... Kad i sam znas da se samo u serviji vjeruje u łaź
LOL the only reason there were so many serbs living in Croatia was that Croatia allowed them to come to save them from the turks
@@powderskier5547 nope. There is archeological evidence that serba didnt live in Croatia before 20th century