The Polestar 2 Single Motor Long Range: Much Improved - With Room To Grow
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- Опубликовано: 4 июл 2024
- A few years ago we got the chance to test out the Polestar 2 for the first time - and we had some opinions: • 2022 Polestar 2 Review
But since then, Polestar has re-engineered the drivetrain and battery pack of its single-motor Polestar 2 - and made it a rear-wheel drive rather than front-wheel drive variant.
And that, we think, has transformed the Polestar 2 in a very positive direction indeed.
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00:00 - Introduction
01:41 - Opening Thoughts
03:07 - Original Polestar 2 FWD
03:55 - RWD improvements
04:42 - Improved battery pack
05:42 - More than a mid-cycle refresh
08:04 - Ride refinement
09:48 - Touch screen centre console system
11:33 - Downsides to the CMA platform
13:27 - Safety functions
15:13 - Android Automotive
17:25 - Cradle to Gate
18:28 - Things that are missing
21:41 - Charging
23:34 - Conclusion.
28:32 - Thanks and Goodbye!
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Presenters: Nikki Gordon-Bloomfield and Kate Walton-Elliott
Camera, Editing, Coloring: Michael Horton
Art, Chase Car Driver: Erin Carlie
Audio, Producer: Nikki Gordon-Bloomfield
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Got a Polestar 2 dual motor, all wheel drive. I LOVE THIS CAR!!! Got it in California. Moved to Virginia, drove this car across country. Charge it out the back window from dryer plug. Yes will go over speed limit easily. Use interactive cruise control most of the time. It is an Awesome tool. I really LOVE THIS CAR.
What model year?
2021@@rp9674
Bought the Polestar 2 Performance 2019 at the introduction. Now, after 98000km or 62000 miles it still feels like new. It is a fantastic car. Wasn't cheap but hey electricity from my solar panels is bloody cheap! I'm 73 yo and still enjoying its responsive chassis and brutal power.
Nice, I didn't like the look at 1st, it's growing on me, like bmw i3 did. Considering for my next
Watching the snow slide off the glass roof from the inside at 4:30 is mesmerizing.
The biggest advantage Polestar's navigation system has is the ability to manually add multiple waypoints/destinations and have the car predict how much range you will have at each one. You can plan out a whole day of running errands all over town, and know ahead of time if you will have enough range to make it to all those places and home again 😎
@@markplott4820 actually it *can* precondition as long as you navigate to a DC charger, and it *will* be able to navigate you to Tesla superchargers once they get the NACS adapter next month
The Polestar does have rain sensitive wipers but it is not intuitive to activate. You press the button with the wiper and rain drop icon on the wiper stock.
This!
My Volvo XC60 does the same thing. I'm surprised they missed that.
There is an automatic window function on the right stalk in PS2 dual motor. Not sure about single motor variant. Love the review. Subscribed!
The Geely ownership is so overblown. This is a full out Volvo with Polestar engineering. It was a Volvo first and Volvo didn't use the body so Polestar did. Look up Volvo Concept 40.2 and it's there. I like that the history of Polestar was given and such but don't like at all it being called a "Chinese" company or car. It's a Swedish company with a Chinese parent company and Geely has been excellent in being one for Volvo, Lotus, Polestar and London Cab in that the companies have kept their structure, management, home base and pretty much, their autonomy. The 2 is getting long in the tooth and the 3, 5 and 6 are Polestar's current design language. The 4 is curiously built on a Zeekr framework and is contemporary as well.
I think Polestar's finances will turn out fine in time. Since Polestar was a racing company they do dynamic qualities well and that, Swedish design and engineering (with a bit of Geely corporate synergies), emphasis on sustainability, high build quality and safety, is why one gets this car. Tesla is completely different, a more tech based car. Its strengths are different. I don't so much see Polestar competing with Tesla more than being a European based premium EV that's an alternative to German and Italian cars.
I've got just over 10,000 miles on my 2024 RWD (USA) and just loving the car so far. Previous car was a 2019 Tesla Model 3 RWD LR. The Polestar is just a much more well rounded experience, in my opinion. Excellent for road trips, cabin comfort is excellent. I'm personally not bothered by the cup holder situation. Do I wish the Chinese weren't so involved with the Polestar brand, sure do. That's the one (fairly large) concern that I have with them.
I don't think of it as "the Chinese." I think more of Geely, a solid parent company that's located in China, has done a great job with their acquisitions. The only thing I don't like about Geely is they have too many brands now that overlap therefore compete with each other. Otherwise, they're solid. Another thing Geely has done is set up CEVT in Sweden so Zeekr and Lynk and Co. have a lot of Swedish design and engineering expertise in those cars as well. And their chief platform engineer is Swedish.
@@benjaminsmith2287 Yes, it's for these reasons (the heavy investment in Sweden, etc.) that I went ahead with my purchase. Still I'd rather they were wholly owned by an EU or US entity.
@@TuomasLeone Not me. Because under Ford, a US entity, Volvo had far more Ford parts in them than common parts that Geely has in Volvos and Volvo was not thriving. Volvo is thriving under Geely and has far more Volvo input into their own vrand than they had under Ford (which delayed and then killed their XC90 update so it ran 12 years). And Saab flat out died under GM. It all comes down to the company, not the nationality, what is good for a purchased brand. Geely hasn't interfered much and I feel it is a bias against the idea of a Chinese company owning a Western one that bothers people. For me this isn't politics. China is just one government that I dislike, but I like Saudi Arabia equally as much if not more and Western countries do business with them. A European or US company may have changed Volvo or even merged them into some other company so I'm pleased that Volvo found a parent company that empowered them and help them keep their brand identity.
@@benjaminsmith2287 As a former SAAB owner, I understand. I should have qualified this with "all things being equal". That said the degree to which the Chinese government violates human rights and is a fundamentally undemocratic state cannot be denied. Those things do matter to me and for that I wish Polestar would somehow (again all other things being equal) be separated from Chinese ownership.
I loved this. Really great camera work, candid review, comedy, and serious questions. What's not to love? ❤
@@markplott4820 you mean the updated Polestar 2 still have lane keep assist issues and blindspot detection issues? (those were the serious questions I was alluding to) My "what's not to love?" is about the video, not the car. Sorry for the confusion. I should have provided more context.
The theatrical production qualities of some video sections is amazing... Well done!
I’m giving Volvo EX30 a look. I did rent a Polestar 2 last year and noted a superior suspension compared to what I’m used to.
you guys are killing it with the music track on these videos! :)
27:00 That's the most accurate description of a tesla model 3 I've ever heard, and it's the primary reason why I'm going to buy a polestar 2
If you don't need the top range and fastest charging, do yourself a favor and just get a fully loaded used one. Any year, dual motor, performance, pilot, plus - leather if that's your thing or need ventilated seats. Performance software upgrade if you like it extra spicy. It's an incredible amount of car for the extreme depreciation it's seeing right now.
The dual motor variant gives almost too much confidence in the wet, ice, and snow. Performance pack adds the manually adjustable suspension. Performance software is probably the cheapest 68hp upgrade in automotive history. Pilot and plus add the creature features you'd expect (some of which have become standard in '24.) Will some other EV have better specs and range for less? Probably. Do you need all that power? Probably not. Is it a really nice place to be and a ton of fun? Absolutely.
It's an incredible package with some people snagging them for under $30k. Newer, lower miles, or CPO are still under $40k (roughly $30k off MSRP.)
Thanks for the review. As an AWD PS2 owner, this all syncs with my feelings. Of note, don't hit a deer in one of these. What looked like minor damage took $8k to the insurance company and several months waiting on parts from the Volvo dealer (in 2023). The fit and finish is great, but the center tunnel makes it cramped up front (Im 5'10) and not great even for teens in the back. I think this car is for young singkes or couples who occasionally put something or someone in the back. Its very good looking, but I prefer my old BMW i3 for around town without kids (it feels roomier).
Fun seeing you two review this together! I rented the last gen Polestar and this looks to be a solid update.
From start to finish an excellent show.
I have the model you are reviewing and have auto wipers. You simply press the large button on the wiper stalk. The P2 LRSM, averaging 630km on a full charge, is definitely the best vehicle I have ever driven in my 36 years of driving. 😊😊😊
Thank you.
I think it’s almost the ideal weather to review a car. It’s all well and dandy, when the sun’s shine and the average temp. is north of 29°C and fast approach 36°C. When the whole review doesn’t necessitate the use of the wipers, so viewers can’t see how good/bad the wipers are; and when the lights aren’t needed. so viewers can’t see how good the lights are or how much draw there is on available power; or use of the cabin heater, to see if it’s able to keep the windows mist free; or how good the factory fitted tyres are at coping with anything less than perfect tarmac on a dry day.
After all, it’s dandy stating a car has this much range on the perfect summer’s day. And spending 8secs. to say winter range will be less. I can’t speak for others but I for one, do not drive less far and less often, just because it’s sub 0°C. So while a vehicle is potentially capable of a given range, when it’s hot enough to cook eggs on slate. The info is barely useful to those that are driving 5mths. of the year, in temps. cold enough to allow cannon balls to roll around the decks. If anything, I reckon more auto reviews should been done in adverse driving conditions.
True, good weather is well and dandy
It does have automatic windshield wipers. I use them all the time.
Rain sensing?
@@rp9674 Yes
I wonder how many hidden features get missed by reviewers or even drivers. Now I understand overly noticeable ir redundant markings on controls
The way you activate them is not intuitive, but once you know, you know. And the car remembers if you leave them on, which I do all the time in my Standard Range Single Motor.
@@dan_delaney Yup, it's the button on the right stalk to activate them. The button has a little windshield icon on it, but I feel like they should have put the word "Auto" next to it to make it more clear what it does 🙂
Nice opening umbrellas in the snow.
Hey, it does have automatic windscreen wipers but I do agree with you on the poor lane keeping assist. That's about the only annoyance of the car in my opinion.
Thanks
I Have a Launch Edition PPP with the Performance Software upgrade.
I have it for 2 1/2 years.
I keep trying to find a reason to trade it for something newer, but there's simply nothing to justify it, aside maybe from better range, but now that Tesla supercharger access is coming, not even that is an issue anymore...
I maybe will try and pester the Polestar Space about how to go about retrofitting the new "non-grill" for the heating, because it gets annoying in the snow, but given that people successfully did it (both newer grill on older car and the other way around) it might be simple enough.
Love this thing!
The PS2 is high on my list of cars to buy. I do have to say that I find the idea of complaining about lane assist and the adaptive cruise control not working well in poor weather to be odd. I would never allow any sort of self driving in that kind of weather, the human brain is more adaptable and wider when it comes to driving in poor conditions.
No comment on the HUGE difference favoring PS2 over Model 3, and a place where PS put the money in where Elon didn’t- the screen behind the steering wheel. Having Google maps directly in front of the driver, while the large central screen can show climate, radio or performance separately, is HUGE! No need to use phone for Google maps, and no need to take eyes from the road and look right to see map before crucial turn or exit. The loss of a screen with map and speed directly in front of driver is a deal breaker for me on the Model 3.
However, the Volvo EX30 doesn't have a screen behind the wheel. And the Tesla Model S and X have screens behind their wheels. The Cybertruck also doesn't have a screen behind its wheel.
Rattles.
This is the MAIN reason why I wouldn't want to get a Tesla.
Correct. They should. @@benjaminsmith2287
PS2s with low miles and 2 years left on the warranties are going for less than $30k now. I love mine. @@surturiel
At launch, weight is distributed to the rear, providing better grip to the powered wheels. This would also help with the 0-60 time.
I’m impressed by the progress Volvo has made since my awful old 340, but let’s have something that’s really practical for someone who wants to stay in the car rather than towing a caravan or erecting a tent!!
Great review! Well balanced, technically very professional, and fair. 3 notes, though. (1) The Pilot Assist in that car must have some kind of problem because it works flawlessly in mine, through all weathers, and road markings in my country are…How should I put it?...Less than perfectly maintained. (2) The car DOES have auto windshield wipers. I can’t fault you for not finding how it works, because I went almost all the ownership time with my previous Volvo XC40 also thinking it didn’t have that feature. (3) Polestar is NOT in financial trouble. You shouldn’t echo what click baiters post. Dive into the matter and you’ll understand what really happened, financially-wise.
It seems like a pretty nice car.
We do really like our AWD 2023 P2, but we do need more space. That's honestly the only thing that will keep us from buying a used one at the end of our lease.
My 2022 NA model has automatic windshield wipers?
I rented the previous gen Polestar 2 to drive from Phoenix to Eugene. It drove very well, and was a pleasant experience. I didn’t like the high door window, awkward cup holder location and ski-slope center console, but a taller driver might not mind.
1. Yes, it's a 4 persons car in practice, but the hump in the middle holds batteries so that it has a deeper floor (unlike pure EV designs with flat battery).
2. They say Android Auto is coming as an OTA update.
3. An EV with RWD and proper snow tires works pretty well because of its weight - I drive an MY24 LRSM myself and have tried heavy snowy conditions.
4. Has automatic windshield wipers, and they work far better than on e.g. Tesla M3s.
5. True, lane assist is pretty rubbish atm., but adaptive cruise control works really well.
These ladies are pretty good in reviews.
So far, the only thing I would buy is a Vauxhall Combo Life Electric with a Wheelhome Vikenze III conversion.
I LITERALLY saw the volvo 850 Turbo Securocor (Sunday March 10th 2024) IN IT'S FULL LIVERY (!) parked like an obedient pit bull outside an Italian joint in Seattle. Still has the full roll cage and everything!
Rear wheel drive is actually really good in snow, as long as you have proper tires, not summer tires or so called all season tires. With real winter tires it will be a really good winter car.
Yep. My RWD BMW i3 with its ridiculously skinny bicycle tire 155mm tires did *GREAT* on snow and ice with Blizzak LM500 snow tires.
My RWD Tesla Model S and RWD Ford Mach-E did/do great on Nokian Hakkapeliittas.
Proper snow tires make a huge difference.
well, front wheel drive is a tad better on slippery/snowy road (plain not slope), but driving experience especially in case of heavy electric cars its weird, and sometimes especially downwards on slope feels the chassy pushes on the front, cos of it. so rear wheel drive is a better feeling thing for sure.
It has auto wipers FYI.
The transmission well style hump in the middle allows polestar and Volvo to have a pinched waist on the door sill. Contrast the Volvo XC40/C40 recharge door sill with pretty much anything else. Such as MG4, Camry, Ora, Kona. For someone with dodgy knees, having the door sill closer to being under the seat rather than 300mm over is a huge difference. Under those circumstances I can totally live with a transmission tunnel
Unfortunately we don't have Polestar here in Brazil, but Volvo is crushing in the ev market here. Very desirable, Google integrated... I, for one, am saving for an EX30 myself.
Smart-connevted Vehicles and IOT (Wifi appliances... thermostats) are great examples of when to use an alternative account. (Like making an email account just for these conneceted devices that don't have to be connevted to the same personal account used on a phone.)
22:25 I like the Jack in the Frunk
Pretty car!! Not my style, though. I have different requirements for a car now I’ve retired!! My requirements are for a vehicle that can be converted for camping in.
Great finger pointing. I do this from time to time without thinking. 😅
I think you may have found the " old man's " EV. And I happen to be an old man.
When the lease is up on my Outback a Polestar might be right for me.
The polestar now needs to be offered as an estate. I personally think that a Tesla model 3 estate would be a good idea too.
It’s called a model y
@@theairstig9164no, Model Y is a crossover, not a wagon.
Nice car. No shade for the roof is a deal breaker for me.
I think for California or Florida I would probably get dark tint
@@rp9674there may be after market options, like those for Teslas
The smaller it is, the easier it is to park in a small town like Hoddesdon.
I’m considering a 3 year old dual motor long range
I don't think the snow was coming down heavy enough in that final round up, perhaps you could rent a dozen snow generating machines from your local ski resort next time just to add that little bit of an extra oomph.
Didn't even know about these cars until last week. I tried to find a reason why I shouldn't have gotten a Polestar instead of a Used Tesla MS, and couldn't come up with any.
While the dual motor set up is nice. Have embarrassed a few Mustangs. I could live with less power, rear wheel drive, as long as everything else stays the same. I'm 70 and really don't feel that sporty anymore.
well in europe they introduced new cars this year, which have a 150KW max rapid charging.. Renault SCENIC /Peugeot E 3008 (2024) 73KW/h & 98KW/H version, and others like Smart #3.
My past experience of Volvo was not a good one. I was given a navy 340 3-door that had been thrashed by various members of my cousin’s company. I’d not even considered another Volvo since.
That sounds like you were just given a trashed car. Doesn't matter what the brand is when the vehicle has been treated like crap.
A bit more expensive than a Tesla, but key advantage of not being a Tesla!
Yep key advantage not being made by the technology leader , with the best support system and a proven track record of getting better over the time you own the car who would want any of that, and if you think the owner is better you need to look into the Chinese government.
Alan, pack it in.
@@transportevolved what was up with that comment?
@@alanrickett2537 Please stop attacking people for not driving a Tesla. Thanks.
@@transportevolvedI don't drive a Tesla and have no idea what Richard drives so that's not what I was doing I was pointing out that not being a Tesla is not the best reason to buy a polestar .
Polestar 2 refresh should appeal to buyers who don't like the Tesla Model 3 refresh because of the lack of indicator stalks; lack of parking ultrasonic sensors; lack of fog lights; Lack of buttons; and the added advantage of more practicality of the Polestar 2 being a hatchback. The new RWD Polestar 2 single motor’s has 320-mile EPA range and faster charging speed. Other upgrades include an increase of 69 horsepower (299 total) and 118 extra lb-ft of torque (361 lb-ft in all). Additionally, the 440V platform can charge as high as 220 kW, charging 10-80% in 25-28 mins - a 20% speed increase, according to Polestar. Bjørn Nyland youtube video titled “Polestar 2 LR SM refresh charging test” shows the refresh 2024 Polestar 2 has much better charging speed - better than Tesla Model 3 and VW iD4.
Polestar 2 will get the $7500 USA EV Tax credit if you lease the vehicle. The new Polestar 3 will be built in the USA at one of the Volvo factories so will qualify for the EV tax credits. The new 2024 Polestar 4 may also be of interest.
Contrast this with PS being a smaller OEM that parent company Geeley has calved off and PS is actually going broke. Reports from Reuters suggest PS need $1.3B USD to keep going to end 2025 and nobody is coming up with the money. It doesn’t own the intellectual property of the things that make it really good so the value can’t be quantified. By this car new (it’s stupidly expensive where I am) and you may own an orphan in 2026
Sounds like they really improved the car to where it is sort of competitive but still pricey. Still doesn't qualify for US federal tax credit, correct?
Tesla Model 3 starts at 38,990 not 47700 as quoted in the video.
The long range is 47…
You said model 3 not model 3 long range it's a mistake own it@@transportevolved
Yes. we’re terrible people ;)
It snow secret
I don't agree with the statement At the end about long term support financially, not fair and far from accurate. Polyester owned by Volvo ad the whole thing is own by geely. Geely and Volvo are listed in their respective stock market. At worse, polyester will be incorporated with Volvo rather than own entity. Polestar is expanding to be made in USA and have launched polestar 3 and 4 already. I own polestar 2, the olds version, 2022 and I love it more than my other EV! It's a driver car.
i let my diesel car fumes go over my burger for extra flavor, dinasour flavor
Journalist Kara Swisher has some non-political insight into why not musk.
If Polestar goes away, hopefully Volvo would take over service?
Ask your local dealer
Local Polestar dealer would tell you polestar will live forever, local drug dealer won't know what you're talking about
Android Automotive is NOT an acceptable substitute for Android Auto,