Yeah, didn't he say he wanted a 1350 hp bus? I think I'm probably more concerned about that than the Escape, even though the Escape is a fair concern as the bus is likely 20 years from completion and the Escape is probably less than 2.
Similar thing as happened to Kaskaskia happend in the middle ages in Poland. There was a city with a huge castle which would've ended up as the capital of Poland... but the river changed its course by 400 meters so instead of flowing right under the castle you'd have to go through 400 metres of swamp to get to it. Subsequently the court moved to Warsaw and the would be capital barely exists now as a small village with an impressive castle ruin.
@@djdjukic I also found it interesting but could only find Krakow, Poznan, Plock, and Gniezno. But those moves were all made because of fire or just the new king wanting it somewhere else.
@WirelessNut I guess you don't ever read the comments when EV's are ever involved. as that is a very common "well, here is 17 gotcha's that also ignore reality". sadly even joking about amplifies the stupid.
I nearly had a heart attack driving a Polestar 2 as a rental car because I was backing out of a parking spot and the car stopped so suddenly I was certain I had backed into another car or a post. I got out and there was nothing there. The car must have slammed on the brakes by itself. Glad it's not just me!
It's wild to me that your nice weather efficiency is less than my winter efficiency in my MachE. I didn't realize the Mustang was particularly efficient for an EV.
My M3 RWD I pull on a really good 70MPH highway run is around 5 M/KWh On a not good day when it’s nasty out and I run the heat instead of the fans it’s around 4 to 4.2
I am so glad I found your channel many years ago. A real person speaking about their doubt, concerns, experience and first of all joy of cars, and everything else. I have to admit you can make even the sponsored parts watchable.
I only found it this year and has been immensely enjoying. I found it through Technology Connections and I absolutely love those two guys and wish I had something to bring to the table.
For anyone wondering the one petal driving braking at high SOC/low battery temp Tesla USED TO limit the regen braking with no compensation from the actual brakes. Fairly recently they updated and now you can turn on the option to use the physical brake pads to have a consistent braking experience like he describes having with the Polestar.
I've had my P*2 (2022, dual motor, LR, but not performance pkg) for a bit over a year now and apart from occasionally staying offline for the whole duration of a drive, I've never experienced any issues, but I've only driven 15000km. I love this car!
*I just sat in one at the dealer. I am 6"6" tall and I felt like a big grasshopper shoved into a small match box. NOT FOR TALL PEOPLE!!! I ended up with a Telsa 3 and I have plenty of room including my son who is 7" tall. (P.S. I did buy a KIA EV6 at first and it have total Electrical failure after only 3 weeks ownership and 500 miles and the dealer said it would take 5 months to fix so it had a MAJOR factory defect of some kind!!! Dealer refunded my purchase price only AFTER I spent $2000.00 to hire a real scary Lawyer and he faxed them a nasty letter! Kia is too new at the electric car game so better give them 5 more years to catch up or end up being their Guinea Pig like I was!!!)*
I also thought that was an odd point when ours is always done at a Volvo dealer and they’re all over the place. Heck, we even got a top of the line XC90 as a courtesy car which wasn’t bad. I think in Europe it’s a no brainer to get the polestar, but bad planning, availability, and geography in the US makes it much harder.
@@puddycat2325 If you think the geography of the US makes it bad, try Canada. In Ontario, the furthest north there is a Volvo dealer is Newmarket. Going north from there and it is a void. If you are headed towards northwestern Ontario, the next Volvo dealer is Winnipeg, Manitoba, which is well over a thousand miles away.
@@michaeltutty1540 I’d suggest the alternative in Canada is an ICE vehicle rather than a tesla as I imagine the charging infrastructure isn’t great either, especially further north. But then I’d always argue you should never stoop as low as buying a tesla.
Exactly, their high-end specs with most options can go for 25-30K. making them some of the best value EV's. I will probably wait until the refresh is 2-3 years old and get one, after a similar price drop.
I HATE the new trend of having no start procedure. I should be able to turn the car OFF and ON. Even my Bolt (which DOES have a start button) doesn't FULLY turn off, so if it's doing some glitchy bullshit there is no way of rebooting the system other than walking away from it for an unspecified amount of time or disconnecting the auxiliary battery.
Teslas do have a "Fully power off, damnit!" button. It's in the Service menu. I used it once to install a mod, but other than that I've never needed it, as neither of my two Teslas have ever "done some glitchy bullshit".
@@Travis0palzae Yeah I recently discovered that in a forum post and it does help with many issues. It sucks that they don't put the reset procedure anywhere in the manual.
It's good to know that as an Alfa Romeo owner considering a Polestar 2, the ownership experience won't change much. Random weird stuff being inaccurate or not quite working correctly, but also not quite broken, few dealerships, lighting money on fire in depreciation -- all the same.
Funny enough the dealership problem doesnt exist here in switzerland , i can just bring it to a certified volvo dealership and they do the servicing etc. BUT the smaller issues i can agree with there are some but tbh they were and still are not a dealbreaker for me, i just love my PS .
I remember having a 1990s Ford Taurus with wonky steering. The variable assist varied in the middle of a turn. I now have a car with a gas pedal that sticks when I've had it on cruise (fortunately it sticks in the off position, not down). I wouldn't want that in my steering.
On the steering sticking point... my Volt does this, too. I attribute it to the electric power steering. It's not on all the time like a traditional powre steering system, so you HAVE to cross some sort of threshold for the power steering to kick on. And you can feel that little gap between no power assist, and power assist.
My Hyundai iX20 (model first introduced 2011) does have full electric power steering and I never experienced anything like this. I suspect all of the affected cars use the same parts from one manufacturer, thus this annoying behaviour can be found on many cars from different car brands. So far in the comments were mentioned: - Volvo XC60 and XC90 (year 2020+) + Polestar 2 - Hyundai Kona - Chevy Volt
Polestar: it's an electric vehicle so it saves the planet! Also Polestar: Oh you want a simple service? We'll just needlessly ship it across the country and then ship it back. No big deal
Greetings from the UK - I just want to say that I love watching your videos. You make me laugh out loud, you really do. My best LOL moment other than "...it's not drive", is definitely "shut up! It's my money!" You genius man! All the very best to you and your family and Happy Easter, while we're at it. 🙂
regarding the usage metric, the reason most countries don't do mpgs or the electric equivalent is that the math is misleading. as per engineering explained on youtube via motorauthority, "Increasing the mpg of two cars by the same amount ... doesn't mean they save the same amount of fuel. A gain of 1 mpg will equate to more fuel savings in a car that started out getting 5 mpg than a car that started out getting 50 mpg."
I used to explain how mpg is misleading by using an example. Take a family with two cars, a sedan that gets 20mpg, and a pickup that gets 10mpg. Both are driven the same distance, 10,000 mi/year. They can replace the car with a hybrid that gets 40mpg, or a new pickup that gets 20mpg. Which option will save more fuel. Everyone picked replacing the car as that sees a 20mpg improvement versus only 10 with the pickup. I would then do the maths showing them that replacing the pickup actually saves more. Even after working through the math with them, some people still didn't believe.
Those tires really matter on these things when it comes to efficiency. I went from having generic all seasons get 4 mi/kwh on my LEAF to cross climate 2's getting 2.5-3 mi/kwh. Not making that mistake again. Probs going for a low RR, or regular all season for my next set of tires to get 4 mi/kwh again, or higher.
Yeah I hated the Ecopia's because they didn't wear well, but only the michelin energy savers are close in terms of efficiency. I replaced the ecopias with Continentals, which rode better, lasted longer, had better traction in the snow, and were even cheaper, but the range was 15 percent less.
interesting, I heard people loving the Cross Climate 2's for everything from better traction, ride, and gas mileage vs oem tires across the board on ICE vehicles
@@Daniel-it1dp they don't give you better mileage than a Bridgestone ecopia or Michelin energy saver. Economy more of a priority for EVs than ICE vehicles though.
I feel the highway stealth thing, while not as significant I've humbled a few people with a 12 year old v6 accord, those things are always overlooked lmao.
When they will literally run the term of the loan out to 120 months, or 10 years, you'd better get used to it and you'd better get used to never actually owning your vehicle.
I hope there isn't a clause in the finance deal about excess mileage. I once bought an 11 month ex lease car and it had a big sticker next to the mile-o-meter saying. "Mileage must not exceed 15000 miles. Penalties apply if exceeded."
@@eekee6034 don’t know about the US, but they’re the majority of the new car market in the UK. Usually with a purchase option at the end of the term so you can decide later rather than today.
A week ago, I'd have argued that the pilot package is silly. I drove a rental Pasaat from Connecticut to Maine and back in one day yesterday, and while the lane keeping was irritating, the adaptive cruise control was utterly priceless, I want to retrofit it into my 2002 Outback now. I loved it.
4:20 you're describing the exact problem I have with my Volvo XC40 Recharge. It's not a permanent problem but it happens from time to time and it's super annoying. So this is definitely a Volvo thing, not just Polestar.
@@alexcrouse I was going to post the same. It most likely has drive by wire which means it uses a variable steering ratio. Any number of things could make it change ratio's, including bad software.
Good info. I rented a Polestar in Dallas in January and was getting about 30.0 kWh/100mi. Temperatures were between 60 and 80F and I did a mix of local and highway. I was impressed. I also just bought an XC40 Recharge (same battery and motors as this) and it’s not as efficient as this, but it also hasn’t really warmed up yet where I live. I’ll have to wait until the later spring and summer to pass judgment on the efficiency.
Got my Ioniq 5 about the same time you got your Polestar, put just over 28,000 miles. It's my favorite car I've ever owned. I've seen some real savings and am very pleased with it. Not saying everyone should go EV but you should definitely look into it if you are in the market to buy a new car.
I'm very happy for you! I'm a big fan of Hyundai and Kia! But for now until the infrastructure becomes such that you can charge your EV car at every turnpike exit that it might be better to have a PHEV rather than an EV at this point. This is not me second guessing your comment. This is just me thinking about the infrastructure we have in the US right now and probably for the next 5 years. My brother recently made it from Pennsylvania down to Texas on an EV car so maybe I am mistaken. ❤
@@kylemorg EVs are fine for highway travel. It's when you get off the highway and out into rural and remote areas where you start to have trouble. I'm in no hurry to get rid of my gas car for that reason. I go up in the mountains a couple times per year where there are no chargers and no EVs.
99% of my charging has been done at home. Not to say that don’t need more fast chargers but it’s only an issue on road trips and if you can’t charge at home. We really don’t need as many fast chargers as gas stations since you can charger wherever there is power. It really is a change in mindset.
I bought a new Victory motorcycle for $23,000 and 4 years and 38k mi later I sold it for $6,000. You made me feel better about my purchase, thank you Robert.
I know of even worse. The first owner of my Mitsubishi i-MiEV bought it for probably close to the $28,000 list price, and four years and 10k miles (and another owner) later I bought it for $4500.
Not having it in Drive is a little bit like when you’re lining up the circular saw to the workpiece, carefully squeezing the trigger and then nothing happens because you didn’t put a battery in it. I’d buy this over a Model 3 because I like Volvos and the guy that runs Tesla is such a basket case that I couldn’t bring myself to buy a car from him. Oh and the Polestar has proper door handles.
The door handles is one of the big things stopping me, a Niro EV owner, from considering any of the current new Hyundai/Kia 800V cars. Pretty, fast charging, lots of nice quality of life stuff like built in 120V AC outlets, but _sucky door handles_.
Have to agree, Elon is a horrible person and he screws with the cars and charges everyone for things that should be included, then takes them away after you paid for them.
The tesla door handles become very natural after a week of ownership. I forget they are odd until someone else comments about them. I'll take a minor efficiency increase over the life of the car. Potato tomatoes i guess.
I spent half my life struggling to get used to anything at all, and now I'm amazed at what I can adapt to! It's really weird. I decided to learn APL programming one day -- it's all weird symbols -- and now I can type about 100 symbols I can't remember the names or uses of! ;) More practically, I bought a bike with a CVT, a little concerned that I'd have trouble putting it in the right gear ratio without stops or an indicator, but I get it right about half the time and it doesn't take a second to change when I don't. On a car, I've got to admit that I love small silly stylistic features.
I rented a polestar two for a trip from Los Angeles to San Diego because my Fiat 500 E would’ve been a ridiculous choice for that trip with only roughly 80 miles of range. I agree with most of what is being said here from that trip. First of all, going from 40 mph to 80 mph in the pole star is ridiculously enjoyable. I have never driven a car that is so confident and surging in highway traffic, it’s just fantastic. 0 to 30 acceleration is also very good, and so far from a pure driving perspective. It’s pretty great. I also agree with the criticism of the seat as button function of the car. I sort of got used to it. But it is not confidence building, and it’s disheartening to hear that that has other problems. I also agree with the assessment that , the trip planning system is excellent. I almost didn’t have to think about it, and even when there were problems with some of the charging stations that I encountered along the way, the system still was able to assist me. The only feature I wish it had was the ability for Folks who were using it to let you know that some of the charging stations have problems. That function, alone, if done, accurately and consistently, would make a huge difference to using Evies and charging them. I imagine getting to a gas station and finding it’s closed, or that it has fewer working pumps, would be just as useful. But for gas vehicles, these days, there are so many gas stations, then in most instances, it’s not an issue. And by the way, when people complain that there aren’t enough, EV, charging stations in certain places, I would just point out that there are portions of the country where they are one or possibly two gas stations at the most remote location that you might have to get to. I have just as often had an issue where I had to make sure to stop at one particular gas station going between California and Arizona or California, Nevada, and if that gas station had not been open, I would’ve been screwed. The issue exists no matter what kind of vehicle you’re driving, but the evidence of the structure has not been built out enough yet. The only thing I would add to this assessment is that I find invisibility in a pole star, not to be great, and it also feels like a very bottom heavy Vehicle. On the one hand, that can feel cozy and safe. On the other hand, much like a lot of today’s vehicles unfortunately, I feel like I’m somewhat less aware or able to see the vehicles around me. The back up camera was quite good, but I still much prefer the ability to see around with my own eyes rather than through cameras. I know that with current safety standards, AB and C pillars are thicker, and it’s much harder to have rollover protection, and still have a lot of window glass. But I’m really hoping that sometime in the near future, some manufacture works out how to get the same kind of strength with a lot less material, so that we can go back to being able to see out the back of our vehicles. A back up camera is not a panacea, and brings with it. It’s own challenges.
I have a Polestar 2 at 23,000 miles and completely agree with all your pros and cons. When it comes down to it, the PS2 is gorgeously designed and I really enjoy supporting the lesser-known EVs.
Thanks for pointing out that you're driving a coal powered car. And I mean this in the most non-snarky way possible. Love you videos...and your humor...and your honesty. So, I had a '77 240D for a while, great car...you should get one of those.
The window when the Polestar was the optimal choice was really super narrow and you happened to land right on that local maximum. That said, it is currently *THE* play for a used EV.
The number of EV’s in Norway is crazy. I travel there a few times a month and a few years ago it was unusual if I didn’t see a couple of EV’s in my short 10 minute walk from the railway station to the office. Now I count the petrol cars, yeah it’s that much of a difference, the ratio is close to 50/50 now and I reckon in a couple of years it’ll be 80/20 in the EV’s favour. Some countries lead, others follow…
@@jeffw1267What are you even trying to say? The US, Canada and Australia are other “sparsely populated” countries. Wouldn't EV's make even more sense in densely poulated countries like the Netherlands, Italy or Japan where distances are much shorter? And black/brown people can't drive EVs..?
I think passive should be standard, at least. I've hated the few times I've driven vehicles with active lane assist, since it's often reading the lanes wrong and you have to fight it a bit too long before it lets off
Unfortunately in places like Winnipeg, lane keeping is not especially helpful for most of the year - either the lane markings are covered in snow or they haven't been re-painted until August after being scraped away by the snow plows.
Lane keeping and what have you can be DANGEROUS, particularly when there is a construction realignment of the lanes. It does not read orange markings if the white markings are still visible. I had a significant fight to maintain my lane in a Kia that I rented. It damned near ran me under a transport truck. Keep it away from me. I will not have it.
Re. the over-the-air performance boost, I totally agree it's your own money to spend, but the business model isn't one I want to be normalized. This is legitimately one of the things that's making it harder for me to want to buy a Polestar later this year. I won't buy a crippled product if I have a choice in the matter. But I realize that's my choice...
It makes a little more sense on '23 and up models because you can buy the power upgrade for $1200 without having to spend the full $5300 on the performance pack. I have mixed feelings on the concept as a whole though
Hewlett Packard / Keysight have been doing this for years on their test equipment. Need an extra 300MHz or a decode option on your oscilloscope. Pay a few thousands of dollars and they send you a product key to enable the feature that was already there.
@@Not31337 Tesla's features and upgrade behavior is horrendous and their quality certainly isn't better than Polestar, even though they should have learned by now.
7:54 best advert ever, a ad fer shipping services and with a tugboat shipping barges up the great Mississippi river, 👌 Not skipping this ad, can't help it, I love shipping 🤣
Brilliant video- first time viewer and your humorous, self-deprecating yet informative review of this car had me learning and chuckling the entire time. Subbed! As someone who made a purchase of an EV that makes almost zero sense on paper I feel I can relate. Our 2021 Mini Cooper SE, bought used for just about full MSRP at the height of COVID supply chain problems, has an unbelievably pitiful range of ~200 km, didn’t qualify for any incentives, is so rare the dealer can’t even service it properly and has such a small cargo area you have to put the seats down if you’ve bought more than 4 bags of groceries…. Luckily it’s so much fun to drive I can’t wipe the grin off my face. Plus, well, it isn’t like every other EV on the road - I.e. Hyundai or Tesla..so its throwback styling is oddly refreshing. Plus it costs about $3/ day to drive. In other words I absolutely love this dumb little car. Maybe our next EV will be more practical.
I've got a rear suspension squeaks as well (different cars, and they are old), but it's the rubber mount at the top of the shocks rubbing on the frame. Put in a piece of cloth as a buffer and it's fine until the cloth wears through. It's fun when you have to ride in the trunk with someone else driving to figure out where noises are coming from :)
Thanks Robert. Entertaining as usual, though as a 60 plus guy who's never had to grapple with anything other than metric, every time you said kw/h per 100 miles, my brain tried to explode 😊
*I just sat in one at the dealer. I am 6"6" tall and I felt like a big grasshopper shoved into a small match box. NOT FOR TALL PEOPLE!!! I ended up with a Telsa 3 and I have plenty of room including my son who is 7" tall. (P.S. I did buy a KIA EV6 at first and it have total Electrical failure after only 3 weeks ownership and 500 miles and the dealer said it would take 5 months to fix so it had a MAJOR factory defect of some kind!!! Dealer refunded my purchase price only AFTER I spent $2000.00 to hire a real scary Lawyer and he faxed them a nasty letter! Kia is too new at the electric car game so better give them 5 more years to catch up or end up being their Guinea Pig like I was!!!)*
Wow. I appreciate your review so much! I was thinking of making this my next car, but the maintenance not being convenient and wide spread is a deal breaker for me 🙏🏼
For what it’s worth I have the twin of this car, except with all three packages. And it’s a 2023. I’ve had issues with mine but none of the ones mentioned in the video. Those are wild. Mine are annoying like my phone dropping from Bluetooth.
I've enjoyed this video very much. At last, a completely, 100% honest review from an actual owner that is not afraid to admit mistakes and is clearly unbiased. Thank you Robert!
Your description of the steering issue reminds me of the hiccup I observed in my first-gen Honda Civic Hybrid's steering. Being electrically assisted instead of hydraulically, it had a hard threshold where it would cut in and suddenly start helping.
I was looking at one for my next car because it was basically the same price between new and lightly used cars. I'm normally a lightly used car buyer. I really like year or two old former leased cars. Low mileage and they got treated like the driver didn't want extra fees. But why, when the monthly payment would be virtually identical? Prices on used cars have dropped by half where I am, so now I'm back to finding a lightly used something. And folks like their EVs, they tend not to show up lightly used here.
I almost regret getting a one owner Stinger GT2 instead of a new EV6. Don't get me wrong, a used GT2 is arguably the best value for what you get if you want a comfortable and performance oriented sedan and I absolutely LOVE it, but yeah the gas mileage is not ideal lol
Try getting one for a decent price without some dealer markup attached to it. The biggest hurdle for these legacy companies are their shady dealer networks. And Kia is well known for having one of the worst. I tried looking around to almost a dozen dealerships near me and literally could not find one without a $5-10k markup on it. If you could actually buy one without having to jump through a dozen hoops it’d be a different story.
@Aging Wheels. Your front end pulsation issue may be from a damaged hub. It'll feel just like a warped rotor. But will persist even after replacing the rotors. You may mention that to the service dept as it's easily overlooked.
I'm glad that this video makes the REAL LIFE point of what RANGE really means. My 2008 Chevrolet Tahoe Hybrid had an EPA of 20 MPG (City & Hwy, not an average). It also had a 26 Gallon tank. Logic dictates that the vehicle would be able to achieve 520 miles of range. I have never gotten that, even on the flattest roads, driving solely on the freeway (at 70 MPH or less). If I drive 80-100% City, I get up to 400 miles If I drive 80-100% Hwy, I get up to 500 miles (assuming mostly no headwind, and mostly no mountains) If I drive 80-100% Hwy with Mountains and/ or headwinds, it's closer to City driving. So I can assume with a full tank, that I can get up to 400 miles, regardless of what the fuel gage reads. Electric Vehicles could have MUCH larger batteries, but so far only the Lucid Air has done that. Eventually, I believe that auto manufacturers will put 350-500 mile range battery-packs in their EVs And Eventually, there we will settle on a standard for Charging Station quality. But we're still in the learning phases.
I've driven a 2024 LRSM for about 2000 miles now and am very happy with the efficiency. I'm averaging 22.5 kWh/100 mi so far, or about 10% better than the EPA estimate, and have gotten as low as 20.2 over a 100 mile interval, including freeway driving. I'm sure the mild California climate and 19" wheels help, but the EPA numbers are certainly not bogus in my experience.
Just the software / UI issues would cause me pause... Especially the weird 'turning it self on randomly at night'. FFS how is that a thing?! At this point I'd rather mod my tacoma to be a EV/hybrid...
0:58 And Im here to inform people that Tesla has been found to not only let any employee look at recordings made from your Tesla at will, but also to allow software to figure out where that recording was from, And allow Teslas to make recording any time they want, including when the tesla is turned off in your closed garage. Recordings have been made and distributed around the company of naked people walking around their Teslas with no repercussions.
Dude, this is a fucking excellent video sheerly for the fact of both making it entertaining AAAND for the objectivity as well. There's still personal relation, but you actually state the reality of shit and that's something hard to do in any reviewer's footsteps. If I could thumbs up this video twice I would. Absolutely fucking bravo.
During long trips in our Tesla Model Y, the charge stops are mostly 17 minutes=Same as most ICE charge stops according to data, though the ICE includes other activities too.
8:24 My Tesla Model 3 can add brakes to make up for regen when it’s not available, but there’s a toggle buried in the menus somewhere that switches the feature on and off. It couldn’t do that when I bought it, but a free software update added it. I actually don’t use it much. When it’s cold enough to affect the regen I usually want to give myself extra room for slowing down anyway, in case there’s ice or something. That means slowing down early and gently, which is kind of a pain when the car’s trying to emulate full regen stopping power. Using the lack of regen to adjust my driving style for the cold is probably a bad habit to get into. There’s a risk I might forget and take too long to realize that I’m not slowing down as rapidly as usual. I expect I would end up slamming on the brake pedal in that situation, but it’s still a risk I’m taking.
@@firenado4295 This afternoon we were literally getting blasted with emissions crap from an old Toyota Diesel car which we were unfortunate enough to get behind.
@@MrDuncl yeah the smell can get annoying but as some one that lives in the country diesels do still have their place, though you do have to be dedicated to drive one through london.
If one advances confidently in the direction of his dream, and endeavours to live the life which he had imagines, he will meet with a success unexpected in common hours.
While they may be astronomically expensive for a general purpose all-season tire, Continental does make some impeccable tires. I had a 2" dent in the barrel of my wheel and the entire wheel was off-axis, and the only thing I was really able to notice was that I had a leak. The tire bead held on at highway speeds. Terrifying, I know. It didn't even feel rough or anything, and these were low-profile tires on a driven wheel. I am beyond impressed with Continental Tires. I just can't afford them.
Informative video and fun as always! Looks like a fun EV, with flaws as all cars have. On balance, I wouldn't buy this car, but I wouldn't buy a Tesla model 3 either. In fact, I'm not sure what car appeals to me today. They all feel more and more like iPhones.
Gotta say that I just drove a Polestar 2 for a week, and it was in extremely hilly terrain with AC on and usually 4 people. We got 19.1 kwh pr 100 km (not miles obviously). So I am not sure why your milage is so much worse. I didn't have the upgrade package though, but torque and speed was not an issue at all. Did have the adaptive cruise, lane keeper all that good stuff. I got the same steering thing you were talking about, but that was for sure the lane keeper working.
Glad you brought up the lane keep assist, because I was going to ask. :) I still wouldn't buy a Tesla over... well, anything, really. I tried out a Model 3 before I bought my car and I was agog and appalled at the build quality. I couldn't imagine spending that much money on anything that poorly put together.
I cross-shopped Polestar 2 back when I was looking at cars a year or so ago. I liked it. But the nearest dealer was well over an hour away from home and this was a heavy negative in my decision.
Every day I'm more thankful for my old clunkers, they may not be new, trendy, or good looking but I own them and they don't have any major issues. I can't imagine paying 63k for a car and having to deal with things like steering lock up or sending them to a dealer 400 miles away
The “issue” you raise about the steering wheel. That is a safety system that tries to keep you in your lane and from driving off the side of the road. It’s essentially the same as lane keep assist, but only activates if you are just about to cross out of your lane. If you use your blinkers to charge lanes, it does not activate.
Watching this video makes me more happy with my 2019 Leaf. Avg. 3.5 mi/kwh. (4.0 in good weather), adaptive cruise control standard, and similar charging times while being a cheaper car. But I'm also in the same depreciation boat. Bought at $26,990 a year ago. It's now worth $13k. I owe $18k. 🤦
2:35. I imagine giving you a 900HP Ford Escape would probably be against the Geneva Convention.
Yeah, didn't he say he wanted a 1350 hp bus? I think I'm probably more concerned about that than the Escape, even though the Escape is a fair concern as the bus is likely 20 years from completion and the Escape is probably less than 2.
@@bobbybobman3073 That bus will pull wheelies.
Does one really need a 600kW in a car or a small truck?
@@LMB222 Yes.
@@LMB222 Absolutely not. Which is why it would be funny.
Similar thing as happened to Kaskaskia happend in the middle ages in Poland. There was a city with a huge castle which would've ended up as the capital of Poland... but the river changed its course by 400 meters so instead of flowing right under the castle you'd have to go through 400 metres of swamp to get to it. Subsequently the court moved to Warsaw and the would be capital barely exists now as a small village with an impressive castle ruin.
That sounds very interesting and I'd like to read more about it, which castle are you referring to?
@@djdjukic I also found it interesting but could only find Krakow, Poznan, Plock, and Gniezno. But those moves were all made because of fire or just the new king wanting it somewhere else.
What a nice bs story. River changes its course like 400m by thousands of years. Polacks,
stop bastardizing eng. speakig yt channels
@@djdjukic it's Czersk
@@Matticitt Ah, Czersk in Mazovia. Thanks, that's a fascinating story.
Kaskaskia is the first place I ever drove a car. My dad took me there and let me drive around the empty village.
I can't even imagine, oh wait nvm. I used to live in the rust belt.
Did you live in Ste. Gen?
@@herbiehusker1889 Cape
@@ordlay23 ah. I live not too far away in Bollinger County.
Ok
I love how you make these videos entertaining to watch and not just sit and talk about a car. The coal barge was a nice touch!
wait you can just get into a polestar 2 and drive away without the key cool great to know that😎
@WirelessNut Because nuclear energy isn't a thing at all.... gotcha.
@WirelessNut reminding how many places keep needlessly burning rocks from the ground isn’t the gotcha you think it is.
@@SimJDKS If burning coal is really "needless" then I guess you'd be happy with millions of people without power?
@WirelessNut I guess you don't ever read the comments when EV's are ever involved. as that is a very common "well, here is 17 gotcha's that also ignore reality". sadly even joking about amplifies the stupid.
I nearly had a heart attack driving a Polestar 2 as a rental car because I was backing out of a parking spot and the car stopped so suddenly I was certain I had backed into another car or a post. I got out and there was nothing there. The car must have slammed on the brakes by itself. Glad it's not just me!
Yep, had it happen to me a year or two back.
Luckily I believe it was fixed in an over the air update
It's wild to me that your nice weather efficiency is less than my winter efficiency in my MachE. I didn't realize the Mustang was particularly efficient for an EV.
yeah it is Ford pulled out all the stops with the MachE cause they want to get some ev sales this time with there new ev's
@@raven4k998 And they're still losing money on them even though they're pretty expensive.
The Mach-E isn’t particularly efficient. The Polestar is REALLY inefficient.
Yeah, my Leaf normally gets 4.1, and if I drive conservatively I can get 4.5.
My M3 RWD I pull on a really good 70MPH highway run is around 5 M/KWh
On a not good day when it’s nasty out and I run the heat instead of the fans it’s around 4 to 4.2
I am so glad I found your channel many years ago. A real person speaking about their doubt, concerns, experience and first of all joy of cars, and everything else.
I have to admit you can make even the sponsored parts watchable.
I only found it this year and has been immensely enjoying. I found it through Technology Connections and I absolutely love those two guys and wish I had something to bring to the table.
For anyone wondering the one petal driving braking at high SOC/low battery temp Tesla USED TO limit the regen braking with no compensation from the actual brakes. Fairly recently they updated and now you can turn on the option to use the physical brake pads to have a consistent braking experience like he describes having with the Polestar.
That’s cool. I will try and turn that on in my Model 3.
I WISH the bolt did that...
Yeah it works really well too. Barely notice the use of real brakes.
This should be good to prevent the brakes from rusting away.
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I've had my P*2 (2022, dual motor, LR, but not performance pkg) for a bit over a year now and apart from occasionally staying offline for the whole duration of a drive, I've never experienced any issues, but I've only driven 15000km. I love this car!
Your ads are the only ones I don't skip through. You always make them fun!
Same here. My spons0rblock add-on skips automatically but on both his channels I always revert the jump.
I wonder have there ever been electric Model A? Like delivery cars and so on?
Likewise!
Same. Even though I live in Europe, so they don't work for me!
@@paulhorn2665 Not from the factory, but I'm working with a guy right now to transplant a Tesla drivetrain into a Model A.
Really enjoyed the little bits of history and scenery in this one. Makes it not just a video about a car.
*I just sat in one at the dealer. I am 6"6" tall and I felt like a big grasshopper shoved into a small match box. NOT FOR TALL PEOPLE!!! I ended up with a Telsa 3 and I have plenty of room including my son who is 7" tall. (P.S. I did buy a KIA EV6 at first and it have total Electrical failure after only 3 weeks ownership and 500 miles and the dealer said it would take 5 months to fix so it had a MAJOR factory defect of some kind!!! Dealer refunded my purchase price only AFTER I spent $2000.00 to hire a real scary Lawyer and he faxed them a nasty letter! Kia is too new at the electric car game so better give them 5 more years to catch up or end up being their Guinea Pig like I was!!!)*
Finland mentioned! To the market! 🥳🇫🇮
BTW Volvo dealers DO service Polestars here.
I also thought that was an odd point when ours is always done at a Volvo dealer and they’re all over the place. Heck, we even got a top of the line XC90 as a courtesy car which wasn’t bad. I think in Europe it’s a no brainer to get the polestar, but bad planning, availability, and geography in the US makes it much harder.
finland doesn't exist, it's a fake country
@@puddycat2325 If you think the geography of the US makes it bad, try Canada. In Ontario, the furthest north there is a Volvo dealer is Newmarket. Going north from there and it is a void. If you are headed towards northwestern Ontario, the next Volvo dealer is Winnipeg, Manitoba, which is well over a thousand miles away.
@@michaeltutty1540 I’d suggest the alternative in Canada is an ICE vehicle rather than a tesla as I imagine the charging infrastructure isn’t great either, especially further north. But then I’d always argue you should never stoop as low as buying a tesla.
SUOMI!
So in summary, a 1 year old Polestar 2 is the bargain of the century
Unless you buy it from this dude who bent the steering on it.
Think again
Exactly, their high-end specs with most options can go for 25-30K. making them some of the best value EV's.
I will probably wait until the refresh is 2-3 years old and get one, after a similar price drop.
i know, I am so excited to get one of these for like $20k or less
I HATE the new trend of having no start procedure. I should be able to turn the car OFF and ON. Even my Bolt (which DOES have a start button) doesn't FULLY turn off, so if it's doing some glitchy bullshit there is no way of rebooting the system other than walking away from it for an unspecified amount of time or disconnecting the auxiliary battery.
You realize they do have an on off button right??
In case you need it: The glitchy entertainment system can be reset by holding down the play, previous, and next buttons until the screen blanks.
Teslas do have a "Fully power off, damnit!" button. It's in the Service menu.
I used it once to install a mod, but other than that I've never needed it, as neither of my two Teslas have ever "done some glitchy bullshit".
@@CO-go1sd You realize he literally said that doesn't turn it all the way off right??
@@Travis0palzae Yeah I recently discovered that in a forum post and it does help with many issues. It sucks that they don't put the reset procedure anywhere in the manual.
It's good to know that as an Alfa Romeo owner considering a Polestar 2, the ownership experience won't change much. Random weird stuff being inaccurate or not quite working correctly, but also not quite broken, few dealerships, lighting money on fire in depreciation -- all the same.
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Funny enough the dealership problem doesnt exist here in switzerland , i can just bring it to a certified volvo dealership and they do the servicing etc.
BUT the smaller issues i can agree with there are some but tbh they were and still are not a dealbreaker for me, i just love my PS .
WHAT HOW volvo is one of the best manufacturers on the planet who were known for there indestructibility how is that possible?
@@speedman69420They got bought by the Chinese.
Sounds more like a FIAT. We all know what that means.
For the steering 'look -up', it happens to my Hyundai Kona electric too. Thought I was crazy, Thank You Dr. Dunn.
Damn, wonky steering happens in my 2019 fusion.
Occasionally going around a curve it fights me and wants to continue straight.
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Sheesh I’d be quite upset not to feel in full control of my steering, even when all autosteer-type functions are off…
I remember having a 1990s Ford Taurus with wonky steering. The variable assist varied in the middle of a turn. I now have a car with a gas pedal that sticks when I've had it on cruise (fortunately it sticks in the off position, not down). I wouldn't want that in my steering.
On the steering sticking point... my Volt does this, too. I attribute it to the electric power steering. It's not on all the time like a traditional powre steering system, so you HAVE to cross some sort of threshold for the power steering to kick on. And you can feel that little gap between no power assist, and power assist.
Electric power steering has come a long way, but it still needs some refinement.
My Hyundai iX20 (model first introduced 2011) does have full electric power steering and I never experienced anything like this. I suspect all of the affected cars use the same parts from one manufacturer, thus this annoying behaviour can be found on many cars from different car brands. So far in the comments were mentioned:
- Volvo XC60 and XC90 (year 2020+) + Polestar 2
- Hyundai Kona
- Chevy Volt
Polestar: it's an electric vehicle so it saves the planet!
Also Polestar: Oh you want a simple service? We'll just needlessly ship it across the country and then ship it back. No big deal
I bet that takes a wee bit of diesel
To be fair, my car is an edge case
@@agingwheels I dont know it is an edge case, curbs and wives are facts of life.
@@christopherwhull Well, I don't think the average person lives in rural Missouri, either.
Yeah that is really weird, in my country it's done by the standard Volvo service centers. Not sure why that is not the case in the US.
Greetings from the UK - I just want to say that I love watching your videos. You make me laugh out loud, you really do. My best LOL moment other than "...it's not drive", is definitely "shut up! It's my money!" You genius man! All the very best to you and your family and Happy Easter, while we're at it. 🙂
regarding the usage metric, the reason most countries don't do mpgs or the electric equivalent is that the math is misleading. as per engineering explained on youtube via motorauthority, "Increasing the mpg of two cars by the same amount ... doesn't mean they save the same amount of fuel. A gain of 1 mpg will equate to more fuel savings in a car that started out getting 5 mpg than a car that started out getting 50 mpg."
That's a great video. I use an app to track mileage and fuel efficiency and have converted the units over to gallons/100mi.
I used to explain how mpg is misleading by using an example. Take a family with two cars, a sedan that gets 20mpg, and a pickup that gets 10mpg. Both are driven the same distance, 10,000 mi/year. They can replace the car with a hybrid that gets 40mpg, or a new pickup that gets 20mpg. Which option will save more fuel. Everyone picked replacing the car as that sees a 20mpg improvement versus only 10 with the pickup. I would then do the maths showing them that replacing the pickup actually saves more. Even after working through the math with them, some people still didn't believe.
Those tires really matter on these things when it comes to efficiency. I went from having generic all seasons get 4 mi/kwh on my LEAF to cross climate 2's getting 2.5-3 mi/kwh.
Not making that mistake again. Probs going for a low RR, or regular all season for my next set of tires to get 4 mi/kwh again, or higher.
Yeah I hated the Ecopia's because they didn't wear well, but only the michelin energy savers are close in terms of efficiency. I replaced the ecopias with Continentals, which rode better, lasted longer, had better traction in the snow, and were even cheaper, but the range was 15 percent less.
interesting, I heard people loving the Cross Climate 2's for everything from better traction, ride, and gas mileage vs oem tires across the board on ICE vehicles
@@Daniel-it1dp they don't give you better mileage than a Bridgestone ecopia or Michelin energy saver. Economy more of a priority for EVs than ICE vehicles though.
@@Daniel-it1dp Oh yeah, they're great tires for everything else. But for efficiency they let me down.
As an Ohioan who is looking at electric cars, knowing the service center is near me this is good news for me.
As someone from Michigan I both hate and respect you.
I feel the highway stealth thing, while not as significant I've humbled a few people with a 12 year old v6 accord, those things are always overlooked lmao.
In this episode: learning firsthand the sorrow of a car loan‘s remaining value staying above the depreciation costs.
When they will literally run the term of the loan out to 120 months, or 10 years, you'd better get used to it and you'd better get used to never actually owning your vehicle.
I hope there isn't a clause in the finance deal about excess mileage. I once bought an 11 month ex lease car and it had a big sticker next to the mile-o-meter saying. "Mileage must not exceed 15000 miles. Penalties apply if exceeded."
Don't buy, get a fixed-term contract hire, if they still do those.
@@eekee6034 don’t know about the US, but they’re the majority of the new car market in the UK. Usually with a purchase option at the end of the term so you can decide later rather than today.
@@kaitlyn__L Good to know it's still around!
A week ago, I'd have argued that the pilot package is silly.
I drove a rental Pasaat from Connecticut to Maine and back in one day yesterday, and while the lane keeping was irritating, the adaptive cruise control was utterly priceless, I want to retrofit it into my 2002 Outback now. I loved it.
4:20 you're describing the exact problem I have with my Volvo XC40 Recharge. It's not a permanent problem but it happens from time to time and it's super annoying. So this is definitely a Volvo thing, not just Polestar.
Makes sense, they're built on the same platform
I'm guessing it's an electric power steering issue. Either a motor problem or a software/sensor problem. i bet they have the same unit.
This is most likely a Bosch problem. Lucas Electrics invented darkness but Robert Bosch refined and perfected it.
@@alexcrouse I was going to post the same. It most likely has drive by wire which means it uses a variable steering ratio. Any number of things could make it change ratio's, including bad software.
This is by far the largest annoyance for me on my polestar 2. I enjoy nitpicking, but I'd greatly prefer this 'stuck' feeling not be there.
Good info. I rented a Polestar in Dallas in January and was getting about 30.0 kWh/100mi. Temperatures were between 60 and 80F and I did a mix of local and highway. I was impressed. I also just bought an XC40 Recharge (same battery and motors as this) and it’s not as efficient as this, but it also hasn’t really warmed up yet where I live. I’ll have to wait until the later spring and summer to pass judgment on the efficiency.
Got my Ioniq 5 about the same time you got your Polestar, put just over 28,000 miles. It's my favorite car I've ever owned. I've seen some real savings and am very pleased with it. Not saying everyone should go EV but you should definitely look into it if you are in the market to buy a new car.
I'm very happy for you! I'm a big fan of Hyundai and Kia!
But for now until the infrastructure becomes such that you can charge your EV car at every turnpike exit that it might be better to have a PHEV rather than an EV at this point.
This is not me second guessing your comment. This is just me thinking about the infrastructure we have in the US right now and probably for the next 5 years.
My brother recently made it from Pennsylvania down to Texas on an EV car so maybe I am mistaken. ❤
@@kylemorg EVs are fine for highway travel. It's when you get off the highway and out into rural and remote areas where you start to have trouble. I'm in no hurry to get rid of my gas car for that reason. I go up in the mountains a couple times per year where there are no chargers and no EVs.
99% of my charging has been done at home. Not to say that don’t need more fast chargers but it’s only an issue on road trips and if you can’t charge at home. We really don’t need as many fast chargers as gas stations since you can charger wherever there is power. It really is a change in mindset.
I bought a new Victory motorcycle for $23,000 and 4 years and 38k mi later I sold it for $6,000. You made me feel better about my purchase, thank you Robert.
I know of even worse. The first owner of my Mitsubishi i-MiEV bought it for probably close to the $28,000 list price, and four years and 10k miles (and another owner) later I bought it for $4500.
Not having it in Drive is a little bit like when you’re lining up the circular saw to the workpiece, carefully squeezing the trigger and then nothing happens because you didn’t put a battery in it.
I’d buy this over a Model 3 because I like Volvos and the guy that runs Tesla is such a basket case that I couldn’t bring myself to buy a car from him. Oh and the Polestar has proper door handles.
The door handles is one of the big things stopping me, a Niro EV owner, from considering any of the current new Hyundai/Kia 800V cars. Pretty, fast charging, lots of nice quality of life stuff like built in 120V AC outlets, but _sucky door handles_.
Have to agree, Elon is a horrible person and he screws with the cars and charges everyone for things that should be included, then takes them away after you paid for them.
The tesla door handles become very natural after a week of ownership. I forget they are odd until someone else comments about them. I'll take a minor efficiency increase over the life of the car. Potato tomatoes i guess.
I spent half my life struggling to get used to anything at all, and now I'm amazed at what I can adapt to! It's really weird. I decided to learn APL programming one day -- it's all weird symbols -- and now I can type about 100 symbols I can't remember the names or uses of! ;) More practically, I bought a bike with a CVT, a little concerned that I'd have trouble putting it in the right gear ratio without stops or an indicator, but I get it right about half the time and it doesn't take a second to change when I don't. On a car, I've got to admit that I love small silly stylistic features.
I rented a polestar two for a trip from Los Angeles to San Diego because my Fiat 500 E would’ve been a ridiculous choice for that trip with only roughly 80 miles of range. I agree with most of what is being said here from that trip. First of all, going from 40 mph to 80 mph in the pole star is ridiculously enjoyable. I have never driven a car that is so confident and surging in highway traffic, it’s just fantastic. 0 to 30 acceleration is also very good, and so far from a pure driving perspective. It’s pretty great.
I also agree with the criticism of the seat as button function of the car. I sort of got used to it. But it is not confidence building, and it’s disheartening to hear that that has other problems.
I also agree with the assessment that , the trip planning system is excellent. I almost didn’t have to think about it, and even when there were problems with some of the charging stations that I encountered along the way, the system still was able to assist me. The only feature I wish it had was the ability for Folks who were using it to let you know that some of the charging stations have problems. That function, alone, if done, accurately and consistently, would make a huge difference to using Evies and charging them. I imagine getting to a gas station and finding it’s closed, or that it has fewer working pumps, would be just as useful. But for gas vehicles, these days, there are so many gas stations, then in most instances, it’s not an issue.
And by the way, when people complain that there aren’t enough, EV, charging stations in certain places, I would just point out that there are portions of the country where they are one or possibly two gas stations at the most remote location that you might have to get to. I have just as often had an issue where I had to make sure to stop at one particular gas station going between California and Arizona or California, Nevada, and if that gas station had not been open, I would’ve been screwed. The issue exists no matter what kind of vehicle you’re driving, but the evidence of the structure has not been built out enough yet.
The only thing I would add to this assessment is that I find invisibility in a pole star, not to be great, and it also feels like a very bottom heavy Vehicle. On the one hand, that can feel cozy and safe. On the other hand, much like a lot of today’s vehicles unfortunately, I feel like I’m somewhat less aware or able to see the vehicles around me. The back up camera was quite good, but I still much prefer the ability to see around with my own eyes rather than through cameras. I know that with current safety standards, AB and C pillars are thicker, and it’s much harder to have rollover protection, and still have a lot of window glass. But I’m really hoping that sometime in the near future, some manufacture works out how to get the same kind of strength with a lot less material, so that we can go back to being able to see out the back of our vehicles. A back up camera is not a panacea, and brings with it. It’s own challenges.
Thank you for sharing your real-world experience!!!!
I have a Polestar 2 at 23,000 miles and completely agree with all your pros and cons. When it comes down to it, the PS2 is gorgeously designed and I really enjoy supporting the lesser-known EVs.
In no way disparaging to your other videos, this is the best intro to any of your videos.
Still a cool car. Always nice to get a look at how they wear in.
Thanks for pointing out that you're driving a coal powered car. And I mean this in the most non-snarky way possible. Love you videos...and your humor...and your honesty. So, I had a '77 240D for a while, great car...you should get one of those.
The window when the Polestar was the optimal choice was really super narrow and you happened to land right on that local maximum.
That said, it is currently *THE* play for a used EV.
this could very well be the nicest video you have done, i loved the nature and history you shared
I love the shipstation logo drifting to the right on the screen lol. I hate ads but damn that got me laughing. Lol nice
The number of EV’s in Norway is crazy. I travel there a few times a month and a few years ago it was unusual if I didn’t see a couple of EV’s in my short 10 minute walk from the railway station to the office. Now I count the petrol cars, yeah it’s that much of a difference, the ratio is close to 50/50 now and I reckon in a couple of years it’ll be 80/20 in the EV’s favour. Some countries lead, others follow…
What works for sparsely populated Norway won't necessarily work in other countries. Also, EVs are still white man's toys, and Norway is heavily white.
Doesnt noeway give incredible tax advatages and discounts when buying an EV?
Norway is one of the richest countrys on earth!
@@jeffw1267What are you even trying to say? The US, Canada and Australia are other “sparsely populated” countries. Wouldn't EV's make even more sense in densely poulated countries like the Netherlands, Italy or Japan where distances are much shorter? And black/brown people can't drive EVs..?
Who would have thought that rich country would have a lot of expensive cars on the road.
That is a lot of mileage in one year, wow.
Great review, interesting comparison to Tesla. And yes, lane-keeping (et al) SHOULD be standard.
I feel like it should be standard on everyone else's vehicles :) keep all those old folks and distracted teenagers in their lanes
I think passive should be standard, at least. I've hated the few times I've driven vehicles with active lane assist, since it's often reading the lanes wrong and you have to fight it a bit too long before it lets off
Unfortunately in places like Winnipeg, lane keeping is not especially helpful for most of the year - either the lane markings are covered in snow or they haven't been re-painted until August after being scraped away by the snow plows.
Lane keeping and what have you can be DANGEROUS, particularly when there is a construction realignment of the lanes. It does not read orange markings if the white markings are still visible. I had a significant fight to maintain my lane in a Kia that I rented. It damned near ran me under a transport truck. Keep it away from me. I will not have it.
Lane keeping is for people who shouldn't drive.
Starts playing music in the middle of the night... did you name your car "Christine"?
Re. the over-the-air performance boost, I totally agree it's your own money to spend, but the business model isn't one I want to be normalized. This is legitimately one of the things that's making it harder for me to want to buy a Polestar later this year. I won't buy a crippled product if I have a choice in the matter. But I realize that's my choice...
It makes a little more sense on '23 and up models because you can buy the power upgrade for $1200 without having to spend the full $5300 on the performance pack. I have mixed feelings on the concept as a whole though
Tesla is no different. Heck, Intel is trying this (again) with some cpus. It's maddening.
Hewlett Packard / Keysight have been doing this for years on their test equipment. Need an extra 300MHz or a decode option on your oscilloscope. Pay a few thousands of dollars and they send you a product key to enable the feature that was already there.
Yep, I do not want this practice to become normalized. Paying for something already in the vehicle... No way.
@@Not31337 Tesla's features and upgrade behavior is horrendous and their quality certainly isn't better than Polestar, even though they should have learned by now.
7:54 best advert ever, a ad fer shipping services and with a tugboat shipping barges up the great Mississippi river, 👌
Not skipping this ad, can't help it, I love shipping 🤣
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Nice Content
Whatever ShipStation are paying you for that ad segment is not enough.
Sell the car, before it melts. 😥
What is your opinion of Aptera? It's not in production yet but they're hoping to get more funding this year.
Thoughts on the rotors warping due to heat of constant use by this particular braking system?
Brilliant video- first time viewer and your humorous, self-deprecating yet informative review of this car had me learning and chuckling the entire time. Subbed!
As someone who made a purchase of an EV that makes almost zero sense on paper I feel I can relate. Our 2021 Mini Cooper SE, bought used for just about full MSRP at the height of COVID supply chain problems, has an unbelievably pitiful range of ~200 km, didn’t qualify for any incentives, is so rare the dealer can’t even service it properly and has such a small cargo area you have to put the seats down if you’ve bought more than 4 bags of groceries….
Luckily it’s so much fun to drive I can’t wipe the grin off my face. Plus, well, it isn’t like every other EV on the road - I.e. Hyundai or Tesla..so its throwback styling is oddly refreshing. Plus it costs about $3/ day to drive. In other words I absolutely love this dumb little car. Maybe our next EV will be more practical.
Probably should have gotten the 300dollar mudflap option by the looks of those sidepanels
I've got a rear suspension squeaks as well (different cars, and they are old), but it's the rubber mount at the top of the shocks rubbing on the frame. Put in a piece of cloth as a buffer and it's fine until the cloth wears through. It's fun when you have to ride in the trunk with someone else driving to figure out where noises are coming from :)
Thanks Robert. Entertaining as usual, though as a 60 plus guy who's never had to grapple with anything other than metric, every time you said kw/h per 100 miles, my brain tried to explode 😊
Was introduced to you from your roadtrip with Alex. Really some great editing and interesting interjections. Certainly earned a subscribe.
"Shut up, my money." Best response possible.
0-60 is great to write on paper. 40-70 is useful every time you drive.
@@SimuLord Your house can be one foot off the freeway since that usually gets subtracted from the 0-60 times.
I use 0-50 just as much as I use 70-130, exiting intersections and such. I kinda disagree with you there, and find 0-100 to be a very good benchmark.
I had the same steering problem with my Toyota. It's the power steering motor, it needs to be replaced but it's not a danger.
Love your videos. I've been to Kaskaskia and have seen the eagles there!
Love your upbeat humour your posting are always entertaining 😁😁👍👍
A life spent making mistakes is not only more honourable, but more useful than a life spent doing nothing.
Wheel bearing damage maybe? Causing heat and warping rotar?
This videos give me Doug and his Aston Martin nostalgia vibes - hope you see the same success!
So in other words this car is perfect, it contains all the little faults and issues you've come to expect from all of your cars.
*I just sat in one at the dealer. I am 6"6" tall and I felt like a big grasshopper shoved into a small match box. NOT FOR TALL PEOPLE!!! I ended up with a Telsa 3 and I have plenty of room including my son who is 7" tall. (P.S. I did buy a KIA EV6 at first and it have total Electrical failure after only 3 weeks ownership and 500 miles and the dealer said it would take 5 months to fix so it had a MAJOR factory defect of some kind!!! Dealer refunded my purchase price only AFTER I spent $2000.00 to hire a real scary Lawyer and he faxed them a nasty letter! Kia is too new at the electric car game so better give them 5 more years to catch up or end up being their Guinea Pig like I was!!!)*
Wow. I appreciate your review so much! I was thinking of making this my next car, but the maintenance not being convenient and wide spread is a deal breaker for me 🙏🏼
I agree 100% with you about not liking the way Teslas look - the only one that I personally like is the Model S.
For what it’s worth I have the twin of this car, except with all three packages. And it’s a 2023. I’ve had issues with mine but none of the ones mentioned in the video. Those are wild. Mine are annoying like my phone dropping from Bluetooth.
I've enjoyed this video very much. At last, a completely, 100% honest review from an actual owner that is not afraid to admit mistakes and is clearly unbiased. Thank you Robert!
Your description of the steering issue reminds me of the hiccup I observed in my first-gen Honda Civic Hybrid's steering. Being electrically assisted instead of hydraulically, it had a hard threshold where it would cut in and suddenly start helping.
The Kia EV6 is a great car. And the GT version is a monster.
Just got mine two days ago, and I love it. GT-line, not GT. GT makes too many compromises on features, and 320 hp is plenty.
I was looking at one for my next car because it was basically the same price between new and lightly used cars. I'm normally a lightly used car buyer. I really like year or two old former leased cars. Low mileage and they got treated like the driver didn't want extra fees. But why, when the monthly payment would be virtually identical? Prices on used cars have dropped by half where I am, so now I'm back to finding a lightly used something. And folks like their EVs, they tend not to show up lightly used here.
I almost regret getting a one owner Stinger GT2 instead of a new EV6. Don't get me wrong, a used GT2 is arguably the best value for what you get if you want a comfortable and performance oriented sedan and I absolutely LOVE it, but yeah the gas mileage is not ideal lol
Try getting one for a decent price without some dealer markup attached to it. The biggest hurdle for these legacy companies are their shady dealer networks. And Kia is well known for having one of the worst. I tried looking around to almost a dozen dealerships near me and literally could not find one without a $5-10k markup on it. If you could actually buy one without having to jump through a dozen hoops it’d be a different story.
Time is the most valuable thing a man can spend.
@Aging Wheels. Your front end pulsation issue may be from a damaged hub. It'll feel just like a warped rotor. But will persist even after replacing the rotors. You may mention that to the service dept as it's easily overlooked.
First time to your channel - I enjoyed your video! :) No lame titles, no lame music - Just clean direct information!
I'm glad that this video makes the REAL LIFE point of what RANGE really means.
My 2008 Chevrolet Tahoe Hybrid had an EPA of 20 MPG (City & Hwy, not an average). It also had a 26 Gallon tank.
Logic dictates that the vehicle would be able to achieve 520 miles of range. I have never gotten that, even on the flattest roads, driving solely on the freeway (at 70 MPH or less).
If I drive 80-100% City, I get up to 400 miles
If I drive 80-100% Hwy, I get up to 500 miles (assuming mostly no headwind, and mostly no mountains)
If I drive 80-100% Hwy with Mountains and/ or headwinds, it's closer to City driving.
So I can assume with a full tank, that I can get up to 400 miles, regardless of what the fuel gage reads.
Electric Vehicles could have MUCH larger batteries, but so far only the Lucid Air has done that.
Eventually, I believe that auto manufacturers will put 350-500 mile range battery-packs in their EVs
And Eventually, there we will settle on a standard for Charging Station quality. But we're still in the learning phases.
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I've driven a 2024 LRSM for about 2000 miles now and am very happy with the efficiency. I'm averaging 22.5 kWh/100 mi so far, or about 10% better than the EPA estimate, and have gotten as low as 20.2 over a 100 mile interval, including freeway driving. I'm sure the mild California climate and 19" wheels help, but the EPA numbers are certainly not bogus in my experience.
Thank you for sharing your valuable honest experience.
Just the software / UI issues would cause me pause... Especially the weird 'turning it self on randomly at night'. FFS how is that a thing?! At this point I'd rather mod my tacoma to be a EV/hybrid...
That does sound cool as hell, to be fair to you.
0:58 And Im here to inform people that Tesla has been found to not only let any employee look at recordings made from your Tesla at will, but also to allow software to figure out where that recording was from, And allow Teslas to make recording any time they want, including when the tesla is turned off in your closed garage. Recordings have been made and distributed around the company of naked people walking around their Teslas with no repercussions.
Dude, this is a fucking excellent video sheerly for the fact of both making it entertaining AAAND for the objectivity as well. There's still personal relation, but you actually state the reality of shit and that's something hard to do in any reviewer's footsteps.
If I could thumbs up this video twice I would. Absolutely fucking bravo.
During long trips in our Tesla Model Y, the charge stops are mostly 17 minutes=Same as most ICE charge stops according to data, though the ICE includes other activities too.
8:24 My Tesla Model 3 can add brakes to make up for regen when it’s not available, but there’s a toggle buried in the menus somewhere that switches the feature on and off. It couldn’t do that when I bought it, but a free software update added it.
I actually don’t use it much. When it’s cold enough to affect the regen I usually want to give myself extra room for slowing down anyway, in case there’s ice or something. That means slowing down early and gently, which is kind of a pain when the car’s trying to emulate full regen stopping power.
Using the lack of regen to adjust my driving style for the cold is probably a bad habit to get into. There’s a risk I might forget and take too long to realize that I’m not slowing down as rapidly as usual. I expect I would end up slamming on the brake pedal in that situation, but it’s still a risk I’m taking.
Most informational talk I've seen in ages. And entertaining!
8 cense per kwh? damn its 46p/KWh here in the UK would be cheeper to drive a van than an ev here lol (probably)
But cheaper to drive a Porsche Taycan into London than a Reliant Robin.
@@MrDuncl yeah you would get blasted with emissions taxes and all that crap if you drive any petrol car near there thats older then 10 years old.
@@firenado4295 This afternoon we were literally getting blasted with emissions crap from an old Toyota Diesel car which we were unfortunate enough to get behind.
@@MrDuncl yeah the smell can get annoying but as some one that lives in the country diesels do still have their place, though you do have to be dedicated to drive one through london.
I never comment, but wanted to tell you to keep up the great work. Very thorough and honest review with your great personality peppered throughout.
Hilarious and informative! 😂
You had me with your ‘warm countries’ comment. Brilliant…
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Great commentary and super self awareness! Good job!
To extend the range, you should install a 4kW diesel generator ind the boot. 😊
While they may be astronomically expensive for a general purpose all-season tire, Continental does make some impeccable tires. I had a 2" dent in the barrel of my wheel and the entire wheel was off-axis, and the only thing I was really able to notice was that I had a leak. The tire bead held on at highway speeds. Terrifying, I know. It didn't even feel rough or anything, and these were low-profile tires on a driven wheel. I am beyond impressed with Continental Tires. I just can't afford them.
Thank you for this video. Changed my mind and probably saved me a lot of time and money.
Informative video and fun as always! Looks like a fun EV, with flaws as all cars have. On balance, I wouldn't buy this car, but I wouldn't buy a Tesla model 3 either. In fact, I'm not sure what car appeals to me today. They all feel more and more like iPhones.
Gotta say that I just drove a Polestar 2 for a week, and it was in extremely hilly terrain with AC on and usually 4 people. We got 19.1 kwh pr 100 km (not miles obviously). So I am not sure why your milage is so much worse. I didn't have the upgrade package though, but torque and speed was not an issue at all.
Did have the adaptive cruise, lane keeper all that good stuff. I got the same steering thing you were talking about, but that was for sure the lane keeper working.
I think this has to be my favorite RUclips video
This is some of the best intro work I've seen in my entire life
Glad you brought up the lane keep assist, because I was going to ask. :)
I still wouldn't buy a Tesla over... well, anything, really. I tried out a Model 3 before I bought my car and I was agog and appalled at the build quality. I couldn't imagine spending that much money on anything that poorly put together.
You are very funny! Also the most informative video on the Polestar and Kaskaskia, IL I have seen.
I cross-shopped Polestar 2 back when I was looking at cars a year or so ago. I liked it. But the nearest dealer was well over an hour away from home and this was a heavy negative in my decision.
Every day I'm more thankful for my old clunkers, they may not be new, trendy, or good looking but I own them and they don't have any major issues. I can't imagine paying 63k for a car and having to deal with things like steering lock up or sending them to a dealer 400 miles away
I’d like to do an EV conversion someday.
The “issue” you raise about the steering wheel. That is a safety system that tries to keep you in your lane and from driving off the side of the road. It’s essentially the same as lane keep assist, but only activates if you are just about to cross out of your lane. If you use your blinkers to charge lanes, it does not activate.
Interesting little bit about Kaskaskia, I never noticed that little bit of IL sticking out on the map. Fun video as usual.
Watching this video makes me more happy with my 2019 Leaf.
Avg. 3.5 mi/kwh. (4.0 in good weather), adaptive cruise control standard, and similar charging times while being a cheaper car.
But I'm also in the same depreciation boat. Bought at $26,990 a year ago. It's now worth $13k. I owe $18k. 🤦
39% depreciation in one year… ouch! Thanks for the update review.