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  • @rngrtt3689
    @rngrtt3689 4 года назад +417

    "I am made of rock. This doesn't make me dense."
    I can't whistand that much sarcasm.

    • @RFA_The-DuDe
      @RFA_The-DuDe 3 года назад +8

      For Alistair its the other way around. "i'm dense, that doesn't make me a rock..."
      Me: " Sadly, no...."

    • @deontaeavila3514
      @deontaeavila3514 Год назад

      Arousing

  • @AJntFirestorm
    @AJntFirestorm 5 лет назад +1175

    I love Morrigan but I’m glad Leliana called her out for being like “I’m not like the other girls”

    • @bancibano2555
      @bancibano2555 4 года назад +248

      This wasn't calling her out, Leliana destroyed her.

    • @OrgXIII4U
      @OrgXIII4U 4 года назад +120

      3:03
      I know, right. I mean, Dear Maker, Leliana. that merciless burn...

    • @kalwynn6014
      @kalwynn6014 4 года назад +33

      that was such a burn i needed a bath

    • @superbad8008
      @superbad8008 4 года назад +46

      Leliana went for the jugular. This game is wild 😂

    • @danskyl7279
      @danskyl7279 11 месяцев назад +2

      But Shale destroyed Morrigan unlike anyone amongs em. 😂

  • @averongodoffire8098
    @averongodoffire8098 5 лет назад +672

    “I am rock, not dense”

  • @Ellthom
    @Ellthom 5 лет назад +480

    Dragon age: Origins is 10 years old to this day... Where did that time go :S

    • @tavoknaza7086
      @tavoknaza7086 5 лет назад +1

      Oh shit. It is

    • @CelestialDraconis
      @CelestialDraconis 5 лет назад +29

      Funnily enough, that would bring us up to date with Inquisition's timeline, as that takes place exactly 10 years after the blight.

    • @silverblade357
      @silverblade357 4 года назад +31

      The same place Bioware's writing talent went.

    • @fatbean2000
      @fatbean2000 4 года назад

      playing the game.

    • @Cliffanger81
      @Cliffanger81 4 года назад +14

      And I still play it like it's a new release 😂😁

  • @Choshako
    @Choshako 2 года назад +77

    2:27 Lol, Leliana was legit like "My Warden will beat your ass if you don't knock it off."

  • @d.pedroii2940
    @d.pedroii2940 3 года назад +360

    This is the only time I remember Morrigan being completely destroyed

    • @user-yf6zz3cl8i
      @user-yf6zz3cl8i 3 года назад +71

      Well there's the part where sten "gave" into her temps and horrified her with qunari love making. Then there's zevran who charmed her into flattery over a bet

    • @DaLiJeIOvoImeZauzeto
      @DaLiJeIOvoImeZauzeto 2 года назад +13

      @@user-yf6zz3cl8i Hahahahahaha that "I hate you all" bit is hilarious. And Oghrim's "Ah, sod it, you win." before it.

    • @Dark_Voice
      @Dark_Voice 2 года назад +4

      This would be kinda destruction if Morrigan didnt get picked over Leliana in my playthroughs nearly all the time. Leliana really has nothing on Morrigan.

    • @femalegays
      @femalegays 2 года назад +3

      the "only" time?

  • @rhenevers5229
    @rhenevers5229 3 года назад +340

    I always love how when push comes to shove Zevran actually isn't the craze horndog he likes to portray himself as. Well to an extent he kinda is, but I think he really just enjoys teasing his companions with that persona more than anything.

    • @juanlaise1059
      @juanlaise1059 3 года назад +5

      I met people like that.

    • @mavvynne444
      @mavvynne444 3 года назад +12

      There's a time and place for that kind of attitude. And another.. It's called having a respect to another guy's domain

    • @arrownoir
      @arrownoir 2 года назад +2

      @@mavvynne444 Respect is how you lose your domain. The competition is not so forgiving, they’re ruthless.

  • @grey2467
    @grey2467 4 года назад +394

    When Morrigan said that Leilianna was skinny like a boy Me:*looks at her*
    Me: I don't know about that Morrigan she looks more thicc to me

    • @Outlaw8908
      @Outlaw8908 3 года назад +5

      😏😉😈

    • @minkinomics3002
      @minkinomics3002 3 месяца назад

      "a girl, skinny like a boy, with wild ragged hair."
      Joke's on you, I'm into that shit.

    • @lock376
      @lock376 3 дня назад

      They both are pretty thin in inquisition

  • @christianfondelius978
    @christianfondelius978 5 лет назад +326

    Dragon age origins. Just pure magic. Even today. So many great memories. And still my favorite DA, even though I like DA2 and DAI.

    • @jakobcarrillo5245
      @jakobcarrillo5245 Год назад

      It's my favorite along with the mass effect trilogy

    • @tweetthechicken3870
      @tweetthechicken3870 29 дней назад

      Adjust beat origins for the first time and started the second one what do you think about the next game? That's coming out a lot of people on line seen to hate it. But the only thing bad I see is it's a bit woke. I don't see why people don't think it will be fun. What do you think

  • @Star-vy5vm
    @Star-vy5vm 3 года назад +31

    "That's nice. But I'm not sleeping with you"

  • @CelestialDraconis
    @CelestialDraconis 5 лет назад +227

    What a coincidence; I only recently just started playing Origins again and romanced Leli. _This must be a sign..._

    • @Uruz_7
      @Uruz_7 5 лет назад +18

      Everyone romances leliana, because shes the best

    • @CelestialDraconis
      @CelestialDraconis 5 лет назад +25

      @@Uruz_7 I've heard a lot of folks say Morrigan is best. But once you go Leliana, you never go back.

    • @darthyolk4589
      @darthyolk4589 4 года назад

      Wow same hat

    • @ladyprimrose4533
      @ladyprimrose4533 4 года назад +1

      It's the work of the Maker

    • @jakobcarrillo5245
      @jakobcarrillo5245 4 года назад

      How do I get leliana lothering is destroyed by darkspawn so if she's there I can't go there it won't let me is she a dlc along with the golem

  • @widowbird
    @widowbird 3 года назад +155

    Holy *shit,* Leliana completely eviscerates Morrigan.

    • @Dark_Voice
      @Dark_Voice 2 года назад +2

      She doesnt. (In my playthrough I obviously proved her wrong because I romanced Morrigan all the way.) BUT Morrigan doesnt make a move on the Warden until much later be it Warden, Alistair or Loghain, she nearly always gets one SO Leliana is proven wrong completely. Leliana also throughout the game doubts the Maker, who she is an almost all viewpoints meanwhile Morrigan is only questioning her feelings IF Warden ROMANCES her => she either never questions herself OR she seduced Warden. => Leliana tried but everything she said was wrong pretty much.

    • @chef___
      @chef___ 9 месяцев назад +11

      ​@@Dark_Voicethat's a lot of text just to be wrong. Morrigans approval score needs to be a lot lower to start a romance, and she tries to sleep with you even sooner.

  • @ForemostCrab7
    @ForemostCrab7 4 года назад +67

    I never noticed it before, but Both Leliana and Morrigan has the exact same respons to Shale's first remark when refering to the Warden as IT.

  • @budakbaongsiah
    @budakbaongsiah 5 лет назад +47

    0:59 well, technically...

  • @gravytrainn
    @gravytrainn 3 года назад +21

    Lmao Leliana at the end. What an icon 😂😂😂

  • @ADL21
    @ADL21 4 года назад +432

    The only thing straight about Leliana is when she straight up told Zevran to whip it out before she could consider sleeping with him. I love her.

    • @skeletonbuyingpealts7134
      @skeletonbuyingpealts7134 3 года назад +6

      3:35

    • @nerosparda5
      @nerosparda5 2 года назад +13

      When in doubt, whip it out.

    • @louisekenway3455
      @louisekenway3455 2 года назад +2

      What does "whip it out" mean?

    • @denithwijesinghe4128
      @denithwijesinghe4128 10 месяцев назад +6

      The fact that she realized she had to make him do that to have him stop really shows her skills as a bard.

    • @twinzzlers
      @twinzzlers 7 месяцев назад

      ​@@louisekenway3455Use your imagination

  • @kangaroo8858
    @kangaroo8858 3 года назад +22

    I swear to the Maker, but Leliana and Shale are the most savage characters in series, altrough Leliana is adorable af at the same time

  • @drewellis95
    @drewellis95 2 года назад +9

    3:00 I mean Morrigan is my girl but my god talk about being roasted and destroyed at the same time 🤣🤣🤣

  • @Outlaw8908
    @Outlaw8908 4 года назад +43

    Sucker for redheads...That last bit had me laughing pretty hard.

  • @sandevastated1
    @sandevastated1 3 года назад +52

    I wish Leliana's romance was as developed as Morrigan's like her getting pregnant and having a child or becoming more warmer, she seems like a completely different person suffering from trauma in DAI (which is understandable)

    • @juanlaise1059
      @juanlaise1059 3 года назад +23

      She develops, but not in a positive way, unlike Morrigan(though you can put her back on the right path)

    • @winniesomethin
      @winniesomethin 2 года назад +18

      ??? I know this comment is a year old but Leliana did develop and became a very complex character; just because she didn't turn into a typical tender wife material doesn't that her development was less than Morrigan's. I actually found her equally as interesting in DAI because her potential to be much darker had always been present and it was interesting to see it all play out while retaining some of her old self. Her being so traumatized and violent actually makes the mentions of The Warden and her remaining love for them even more heartwarming.

    • @MerlinTheCommenter
      @MerlinTheCommenter 11 дней назад +1

      @@winniesomethinthe amount of time between comments doesn’t really matter as long as the comment is good.
      In response to your reply though here’s my counter: you say she becomes a very complex character in INQ but all I saw was a hodgepodge of copy and pasted tropes and storylines used in dark fantasy that came out during the development of DAI. At best I can say she becomes a rip off of Claymore and at worst I can say they plagiarized it. It’s 1:1 some of the tropes in there. There’s also a few “inspirations” from Berserk that hover over rip off but I won’t even go further since this comment would be another 1000 words longer.
      It’s a downgrade. Her development and “complexity” made her look more bland and cheap. It’s an attempt at early Alan Moore but resulting in edgelord Jeph Loeb material.
      That game’s writing being so mediocre was reflected in the audience response as it did well below expected sales and fans overall found it boring. It’s why BW didn’t release another installment until this year (and whew boy I won’t even touch that drama).
      Btw you have your taste, and that’s fine. Like what you like but if we are talking about objective truths here, audience reception is the message.

  • @pickled0ctopus
    @pickled0ctopus 5 лет назад +18

    Dragon Age videos are always welcome :D

  • @artlessmonster8376
    @artlessmonster8376 4 года назад +194

    It's a shame, I've never heard most of these despite romancing Leliana on every playthrough because many of them have dialogue specific to a male warden. Guess if Leliana hooks up with f/warden no one gives a shit haha

    • @aedanshepard316
      @aedanshepard316 4 года назад +49

      People are just more thirsty for the male warden lol

    • @IrisGlowingBlue
      @IrisGlowingBlue 3 года назад +48

      Right? So much of the game seems like the writers just flat-out didn't consider the warden as a woman, including romances. (Or if they did, it's so she can offer to sleep with skeevy-ass dwarf men so they'll help their own village not be overrun w/ zombies. Why even)

    • @wolfhowl983
      @wolfhowl983 3 года назад +14

      @@IrisGlowingBlue Well there are fun moments specific to female warden too. There's a lot of party banter around the Alistair romance. And Oghren passing out if present while the ladies agree to a lesbian threesome.

  • @NoName-ym5zj
    @NoName-ym5zj 2 месяца назад +2

    These companions had so much chemistry, not to mention character. Best banter in the series.

  • @BHRamsay
    @BHRamsay 5 лет назад +76

    Wait, Zev makes a pass at Leiliana? ...who calls him out for it? Now I have to play the game again with those two in my party. I can only hope that I don't have to harden her cause I usually leave THAT fun until closer to The Landsmeet

    • @MrMarioEberle
      @MrMarioEberle 5 лет назад +26

      Some of the dialogue here requires Leliana to be hardened.

    • @allknowingfreddybear9291
      @allknowingfreddybear9291 5 лет назад +16

      @@MrMarioEberle How do you harden Leliana.
      Although I know how she makes me hard ;) (Sorry)

    • @andreijsternstunden5268
      @andreijsternstunden5268 5 лет назад +36

      @@MrMarioEberle Zevran makes a Pass on everybody.

    • @BHRamsay
      @BHRamsay 5 лет назад +30

      @@allknowingfreddybear9291
      As you travel with her the group is eventually attacked by assassins sent by her old mistress /lover Marjoline. Go to Denerim and you'll find her in a small house immediately to your right. Confront Marjoline and her squad of killers, deal with them as you see fit though Leilana eventually prefers a more PERMANENT solution to the problem.
      Talk to her afterwards and encourage her joy at Marjoline's demise and her dark side. Remind her that her time as a Chantry sister was only a role she was playing and the REAL Leilana is the ruthless and dangerous bard.
      She'll eventually come to you and thank you FOR your insight.
      If you've yet to initiate her romance scene her approach after being hardened is more direct and explicit if you're bouncing between her and Morrigan their party banter gets out right catty
      Additionally take a hardened Leilana with you to the brothel to meet Isabella and she'll insist on joining you and Ravani for a 3sum during which Leilana apparently does things even Isabella hasn't encountered before and is so memorable Isabella brings it up if they see each other again in Kirkwall
      Leilana is of course Inquisition Spymaster, by default she's hardened regardless of your choices in Origins
      so if you're inclined to screw around a little, the Inquisitor can encourage Leilana's softer side and with the right dialogue soften her again to make her more diplomatic and less inclined towards slitting your throat for getting in the Inquisitior's way

    • @jam8539
      @jam8539 4 года назад +16

      @@BHRamsay it was always kinda strange how the love of her life hardens her, and some random inquisitor dude softens her. though my origins character cannot complain there can only be one murderous psychopath in the relationship and a soften Leliana makes a better divine. Also, just a little tidbit that at the orlesian palace if you do things right in origins she can be announced as the mistress of the Fereldan king, i wonder what my warden will be called if his lover is the divine.

  • @angriboi
    @angriboi Год назад +4

    Leliana's english voice is so cute!

  • @kurzor0007
    @kurzor0007 3 года назад +10

    Leliana giving Zevran blue balls?!?!?! What is this madness, I love it 😄

  • @Stuartette
    @Stuartette 4 года назад +14

    4:07 damn Leliana

  • @jadeobsession9088
    @jadeobsession9088 5 лет назад +98

    ooh, somehow modded Zevran is soo much sexier than the original

  • @nicolesong6199
    @nicolesong6199 4 года назад +20

    so how does the banter with Zevran go if Leliana is not hardened?

  • @edobson23
    @edobson23 Год назад +5

    4 minutes of Leliana being a savage

  • @gaaraofthefunk7163
    @gaaraofthefunk7163 4 года назад +10

    OOOOOOOHHHHHHH!!! Leliana, Shots fired!😆

  • @aniston6481
    @aniston6481 2 года назад +1

    Morrigan, Liliana and meriill Are the most beautiful and Truly lovable Romance's in the whole series.

  • @Fizz-Pop
    @Fizz-Pop 4 года назад +6

    Ah Leliana was so sweet back then. Come DAI and she is much less innocent.

    • @juanlaise1059
      @juanlaise1059 3 года назад

      This is more a mask of Leliana.
      She admits that she had people fall in love with her before killing them as part of her life as a bard.

    • @verminscum
      @verminscum 2 года назад +4

      She's more herself. It's obvious even in Origins that she isn't innocent, she just acts as if she is.

  • @Cherry_Pie_Slice
    @Cherry_Pie_Slice 4 года назад +8

    Damn Lelianna

  • @amandamarques6190
    @amandamarques6190 2 года назад +3

    A patada que a Leliana da na Morrigan, que delícia hahaha 😂

  • @ShadowQuickpaw
    @ShadowQuickpaw Год назад +2

    "A girl, skinny like a boy." Um... Morrigan? Leliana's what, twice your age? She's almost thirty at this point, while you're barely pushing 19. Who's actually sheltered here, hmmmm?

  • @Stuartette
    @Stuartette 4 года назад +21

    3:05 OOOH

  • @panedilegna2891
    @panedilegna2891 Год назад +5

    What clothing mods does DanaDuchy use? Is there one that allows you to layer clothing like that over armor or are they unique armor pieces?

    • @ffffdsd
      @ffffdsd 11 месяцев назад

      Most likely a mod called Kirkwall imports. Adds a lot of da2 armours/clothes. I think the improved atmosphere mod might add them too but it's unstable so I don't use it

  • @healsallwounds
    @healsallwounds 2 года назад +3

    Oh yeah, Leliana is the skinny one, not Morrigan. 😅

  • @DrSougataBanerjee
    @DrSougataBanerjee 4 года назад +6

    Kindly mention all the mods you are using with your playthrough. Please...

  • @SorayaKenobi
    @SorayaKenobi 4 года назад +8

    Hi! What mod are you using for her face? She looks AWESOME

  • @DarkKing009
    @DarkKing009 Месяц назад

    Leliana "Oh baby girl you should have taken better care of your stuff."

  • @lupinelp9226
    @lupinelp9226 4 года назад +4

    What armor mods are these?

  • @erika_evdokimenko
    @erika_evdokimenko 5 лет назад +3

    Perfection.

  • @mrachwal
    @mrachwal 4 года назад +3

    What are the armors that Leliana and Allistar are wearing?

    • @dwinonuggies
      @dwinonuggies 4 года назад

      Probably mods.

    • @mrachwal
      @mrachwal 4 года назад

      FenrisisbAe ;3 I figured. Just curious what mods they are

    • @arbiteras
      @arbiteras 2 года назад

      @@mrachwal Armour of the devout and Grey wardens of ferelden.

  • @fatbean2000
    @fatbean2000 3 года назад +2

    Leliana is best girl!

  • @ron-nb6rg
    @ron-nb6rg 5 месяцев назад +1

    dont know what that leliana face mod is but i need it

  • @karlsmith2570
    @karlsmith2570 4 года назад +2

    I've never seen this happen in the xbox version of Dragonage Origins
    What system is this on??

    • @yang6642
      @yang6642 4 года назад +7

      It’s the PC version, the dialogue itself is just party banter, it only looks like a collection of cutscenes because of mods

  • @harishsridharan3789
    @harishsridharan3789 3 года назад

    How can u make the companions talk to each other, like I can only talk with my warden to other companions.

  • @roycejames789
    @roycejames789 3 года назад +1

    When did these dialogues happen I didn’t get any of these.

    • @JesusTorres-ue3yr
      @JesusTorres-ue3yr 3 года назад +2

      It happens when your out on quests. This is a mod so the characters don’t actually have a talking to each other scene they just say it on the go. Lots of this dialogue is male warden only though

    • @roycejames789
      @roycejames789 3 года назад

      @@JesusTorres-ue3yr thanks so much ima have to try downloading that mod next play through

  • @mrpatatas18
    @mrpatatas18 2 года назад

    Wait! how do you unlock this cutscenes? I mean i hear this conversation when you're traveling but i never got to see this cutscenes

  • @КапитанДарвин
    @КапитанДарвин 3 месяца назад +1

    What is the name of the graphic mod?? I want the same face for Leliana!

  • @BlindDragoon
    @BlindDragoon 2 года назад

    how do you have such neat/unique armors on everyone? (and if its a mod, can you link me?)

  • @Nor1998_
    @Nor1998_ 3 года назад +3

    This is why I like Dragon Age:Origins.

  • @tsstevensts
    @tsstevensts 2 года назад +1

    3:31 Leliana is a brave brave girl. Were this Westeros the guy would just drop trough and mention something about their disdain for the king.

  • @deptusmechanikus7362
    @deptusmechanikus7362 Год назад +15

    Shame most of those dialogues are male-warden specific. Are all our companions under the impression that femWarden and Leliana are just really-really good friends?

    • @Jayk-kz7sh
      @Jayk-kz7sh Год назад +5

      Allistair occasionally says that femWarden and Leliana are super hot together to the warden at times. The time when when he asks to gossip with you about the rest of the party comes to mind. Morrigan is fine with femWarden and Leliana, but gets really jealous if it’s a dude warden. Zevran’s comments can definitely go for both wardens. And I think Ohgren’s just Ohgren and would be a perv regardless

  • @rain.l4621
    @rain.l4621 Год назад

    What armor is that? Is that a mod? It looks good

  • @nadejdagenadievna8153
    @nadejdagenadievna8153 7 месяцев назад

    Уважаемый автор, а что за мод на лицо Лелианы ? Она выглядит лучше чем в ваниле...

  • @A.76-v4z
    @A.76-v4z 3 года назад +3

    Can anyone help me? How do you trigger a conversation between companions i only can with my own character

  • @an_unknowuser
    @an_unknowuser 4 года назад

    What is your mod list please !

  • @nicketarmosquito2721
    @nicketarmosquito2721 4 года назад

    Is this some mod? I played the game, but never saw these conversations

    • @juanlaise1059
      @juanlaise1059 4 года назад +1

      It's a mod, but only to make the conversations appear like a normal dialogue rather than party banter. All this dialogue is in the game.

  • @thyrlindberg9310
    @thyrlindberg9310 3 года назад

    Is this mods or actually in the game?

  • @siegfriedottokoch8289
    @siegfriedottokoch8289 Год назад

    is this a mod or how do i get this?

  • @ferminmata538
    @ferminmata538 4 года назад

    Foenrmt
    🙋🏻‍♀️

  • @louditalian1962
    @louditalian1962 3 года назад +3

    That elf is annoying. Im glad i never met him. He always met his end at the end of my blade.

  • @ThatGuy-bm9cs
    @ThatGuy-bm9cs 3 года назад +1

    How do you stop zevran from betraying you? I didn't know you could he always betrayed me and i gutted him like the traitorous cur he is

    • @d.pedroii2940
      @d.pedroii2940 3 года назад +16

      Raise your relationship points with him

    • @thistles
      @thistles 3 года назад +12

      Treat him well, lol. He won't betray you if you have a good relationship.

    • @verminscum
      @verminscum 2 года назад +5

      All you have to do is have his approval high enough, it's really not difficult unless you're just ignoring him your whole playthrough.

    • @arrownoir
      @arrownoir 2 года назад

      @@verminscum I usually keep him and Shale rooted to the camp. I never take them anywhere.

  • @garrison9027
    @garrison9027 4 года назад

    At what point in the game do these conversations take place?
    They’ve never talked in camp or anything. And this doesn’t look like camp.

    • @KnightDelt
      @KnightDelt 4 года назад +2

      The visuals are a mod, the audio is taken from party banter

  • @rodricksage5963
    @rodricksage5963 2 года назад

    now i don't want to romance either Morrigan nor Leliana, i rather just pay for the brothel

  • @mainaccount3087
    @mainaccount3087 4 года назад +4

    But, heck, compared to Morrigan, Leliana is... I don't know how to say "boring" without hurting other people's feelings.

    • @gaaraofthefunk7163
      @gaaraofthefunk7163 4 года назад +18

      Not really, she a beast lol 😆 Morrigan is an arse, yes, a logical arse. Leliana is just dark, underneath what you first think you see. You get a peak after hardening her in Origins, but get to see it full on, in Inquisition. That’s why there is so much inner conflict.

    • @fatimapalacios2292
      @fatimapalacios2292 4 года назад +19

      ah she's not boring, when you talk to her in origins you realized she's the typical reformed bad girl. Avoiding talk about herself, distancing of habits of her old life, but murder, torture and betrayal comes up again and you realize why she is trying to be gentler. It's not for you, it's for herself. Convincing her to love the warden or to embrace her life as a bard and sying the scheming and lies are ust means to an end reveal a happier Leliana. Which is a big contrast to her "peaceful" self at the start. Later in Inquisition she shows some regret and you can help her to get softer because the life that she used to love as a spy is now a burden she's no longer able to carry at the same time as her faith. Or you can make her even more dark and ruthless at expense of her humanity. I would like to see a fully evil Leliana in DA4.

    • @juanlaise1059
      @juanlaise1059 3 года назад +8

      @@fatimapalacios2292
      Yeah. People assume Morrigan is the evil one and Leliana the nice girl.
      If you read between lines, Leliana was a true monster before. An assasin and spy that made people fall in love with her before killing them and she only considered it a part of a game. At least Morrigan has the excuse of not knowing much about society and living in a swamp.
      Leliana is reformed(or trying to be) by the time you find her. If she was her former self, she would probably seduce and later kill the warden if she had been instructed to.

    • @fatimapalacios2292
      @fatimapalacios2292 3 года назад +3

      @@juanlaise1059 Yeah but I like to think we picked her up before she could fall in the shadows. Hardening her might make some things easier for the warden but is wrong. The is trying to rehabilitate and be good. Hardening her is like making Cullen keep with the lyrium. All wrong. The way I see it, she's a sociopath and she's struggling with herself. If we can be a good example, then we must keep her close to her faith.