WOW! You've been doing this for years. Your beats are dope too! I remember watching one of your 2010 videos years ago back when you were on the MPC2500. You had the big "2010" sunglasses on. Hahaha. I also have an MPC2500 and a MPC X. I bought my first MPC in late 2004 (red and blue MPC1000) and my first "flagship" MPC (the MPC4000) a few months later around February of 2005. I still have my MPC4000 as well (I'm NEVER getting rid of that one). I no longer have a MPC1000, but I replaced it with an MPC One and more recently replaced the MPC One with the MPC Key-37, which I think is the best portable take anywhere MPC for my needs (because it has a keyboard built in and I like to play keys). I don't do much sampling. So yeah, I use keyboards and synthesizers a lot in my beats. BTW, I did try out the new MPC 3.0 software on my MPC Key-37. While I do like some of the new features Akai added, there are still some bugs that need to be fixed, and there are a few things I like in 2.0 that were removed. The main one is being able to load a bunch of programs and select from a list of multiple programs to assign to a track. That's the way I work, too. A lot of people like the old-school MPC workflow. Why change it? But yeah, because of the major bugs that still need to be fixed and the fact I have a lot of older projects from 2.0, I downgraded back to 2.15 and I will stick with that for a while until 3.0 is stable enough and Akai decides to bring back the major features they omitted. I know they're going to bring back track mutes, which is great. I hope one day, they decide to bring back multiple programs, too, and have program/track assignments work the same way they do in 2.15. To be honest, that's the main thing that's a deal breaker for me. I like to load multiple programs at once and freely pick and choose any one of them to use in whatever track in whatever sequence I want. This is how I come up with ideas, too, because certain drumkits or sounds can spark new creative ideas. Then, I can work quickly while building a track. Oh yeah. You wanna know what 's absolutely great about 2.0? I took the first beats I ever made on the red and blue MPC1000 from 2004 when I first got it and, to my amazement, I was recently able to load them them up in my MPC Key-37 (programs, sequences, everything!) and with a few minor tweaks to the drum programs, they sound almost exactly the way they did back in the day on the MPC1000!!!! I'm talking about beats from 20 years ago!!! They still load and play on these new machines!!!
Great video! A lot of people was looking for this new upgrade, but what kills me is that they don't even know how to work their machine and yet you want to upgrade to a new software. So when you show that man your different programs he didn't even know what you were talking about cuz he does know how to work. His machine hell. I don't even know how to work in my machine. I'm not going to change to the new software until I can get a full understanding of what I'm doing everyday is a learning experience with the mpcx. Once again, great video! Learn how to work your machines before you upgrade to the newest software
Wow I didn't look at it that way. People really don't know how to fully use the MPC as it is right now. But want something new. They really don't know what they want.
@@mikeisrael268I'm in two minds here as I just got mine but don't know if it's worth learning the old way of working if at some point they replace it with mpc 3 and then I have to learn again.
I agree that the software is horrible compared to an actual DAW / whereas the MPC in standalone has pretty much everything needed to have a portable DAW. I have always thought it’d be great if they gave us an option to run it in a simple/classic mode - where the UI would be much closer to the MPC1000 with or without JJOS or MPC4000 or even 60/3000 OS style with some obvious improvements (mute groups, fx, resample, audio tracks, variable sample rate) I put 3.0 on my beloved MPC Live and immediately couldn’t work how I have gotten used to using the machine so I reverted the OS and now it seems the firmware is glitching now. All in all I fully concur with everything you say in this vid
NEVER MAKE HEAT IN A BETA!!! It's in extremely early stages of beta testing. Shit is bound to be messed up. I am actually feeling it although I won't actually use it until it is released in it's final form with all the bugs worked out. It's definitely going to be dope. Does not seem like they are trying to make it a daw to me just more streamlined. Being able to access program edit by just touching the sample from the main screen is so nice, grid arranger is cool also. The arrangement view is also good for after you build your beat out in song mode and convert to a sequence. I cant see building and entire track out in arrangement view shit would be mad tideous. Having programs designated to their own tracks makes why more since IMHO also having multiple beats in one project is just messy and unorganized. 1 project 1 beat 1 name super simple. Also you won't have to wait so long for your projects to load(I was like god damn my boy)... more time to bang out beats!
Family...its simple..AKAI can simply keep the Legacy Layout 👌 as in the 2.15 and have the 3.0 as a Plugin Arrangement...Facts....we need that Modular units in the past....Peace God
I have no arguments with those who want the arranger. My beef is they broke how track mutes work in Song mode. Don't take from others to give to someone else. Don't break my workflow and projects in progress to give someone something new. Leave the original functionality intact.
I've been working on my workflow with the Live since the first one, I think I got it down finally this year, so there's no way I can upgrade. I'd be starting over. This thing is perfect how it is, I'm good.
I have mixed feelings. I installed the beta and I love the arranger, the new interface, mixer… but opening old projects from MPC2 or MPC1000 is being a pain. From 6 or 7 tracks, it now creates over 30 different tracks (most of them MIDI) and it takes ages to rearrange everything. I could not find the way to delete a sequence (it’s probably there but I cannot find it). Creating song arrangements from scratch with new version is a pleasure though. So for now I’ll be downgrading until official version is released and then I will think about it.
Boss man don’t sleep on the mpc software. I just had this conversation with my boy today. Akai software can be in the runnings with ableton and protools if they play their cards right. You’re dead right on the processing power which is the reason I use the software with the mpc. I’m sample crazy and intricate and just the mpc alone will not do it for me. Me I’m not touching the mpc 3 until they come out with software for it and all the bugs are worked out. Your beats are dope fam! You definitely earned a subscribe and a like from me! 🫡🦾
You spoke all my thoughts. Great minds think alike. I make beats the same way. I have like 10 different beats and songs on 1 program. We old school know the way. Akai MPC for life! 👍👍👍👍👍
I came up off the 2000-then 2000xl & 1000 honestly I feel you but I had to get over the loop I now also have a live2 & 61 key and there is so many benefits as far as storage and time corrections etc but I haven’t upgrade no software
I say keep the best of the past versions and implement some stuff that seems important. Simple. Everyone happy and you get to keep your work flow as you feel comfortable. I do agree akai may need better processors and ram if you wanna make it a DAW.. fire beat at around 8:30
I did a live set a few weeks ago. Didn't have time to fw the new workflow so I used 2.1. I ran into crash issues/stuttering/glitching. this was because I had so many samples in one project and the cpu couldn't handle all these hot ass fire ass beats. 3.0 has disk streaming so that is the major perk of 3.0 to me. I worry if Akai made a new machine it would have all the same incompatibility issues and maybe even more. I guess good for them for trying to do the most with whats going on instead of making everyone shell out another 1000 bucks. Im giving 3.0 a week or two and if its still whack then I have no issues with 2.15. peace
let MPC's stay MPC's and daw stay daw. i'm ok with innovation but dont slaughter the great and trusted workflow that the mighty Roger Linn invented and gave us. this 3.0 is not innovation, is homologation regarding the main structure. the new stuff like slice motion is great but i dont want to ditch my versatile workflow for just that and a few more bells and whistles , no way. peace.
@@JayLayneWill this new software help you make better beats. No. It's about the music not the equipment. I know people with new everything but music is still lacking.
I remember when Ren came out. Everyone was selling their old MPC's say stand alone is dead buying controllers . maschine was the new thing. I sat that one out stayed with my mpc 2500. Everyone said we would be left behind 😂 Boom stand alone came back. In a bigger way. We just going through that again. I'll give it another when they get to the final product.
They already have it, they are just taking their time with the releases. Someone has that one prototype in the company for sure. Best advice and I do my work flow the same way, So when you said you were going back. lmfao I already know. that project is a kit in its self
I couldnt even get my external hard drive to read with the beta. All my samples, plugins, expansions etc are on that so thst bummed me out completely. Tried the default kit etc and there was one plugin that was already onstalled but overall i wasnt really wowed by the workflow. Like you and many I loved the separate programs and ease of function to get to designated areas. If they tweak more then maybe I'll dive into the fonal product but i unfortunately had to roll back as well for the time being.
Just went back myself, the looper export options are gone. I use the looper with every project to make my own samples playing guitar and bass, now I can only put loops in an audio track instead of a drum program/pad.
Exactly. Why jump into a crowded arena? Should’ve kept the workflow. They’ll gain some new and lose some longtime users. Or they’ll just stick to the old version.
I bought one again solely because of the MPC 3.0 software, and now I'm getting along great with it. I really like the workflow, especially drawing in automation, etc., but of course, I can understand it. I hope the old workflow will be implemented as well.
I beleive they akai is making a new mpc. (Speculation) As far as the 3.0 update , I didnt update from 2.15 because I usually wait to update unless I really need to.
Makes sense, it's a *beta* version of the software. It probably shouldn't have been released to the general public, but releasing early software to the general public has become the norm. It probably should have been a closed beta instead of a public beta. Making it a public beta only opened Akai to a lot of criticism, as many consumers don't truly understand that by installing the beta software, they are in effect agreeing to be beta *testers* for software that *isn't developed enough to be released for sale,* hence the software being offered for free. When this is done in the computer world, it is advised not to install such software on one's primary computer, but rather a backup or spare computer. The same logic would apply here, but I'm not sure that the average MPC user has a spare machine to use just for testing purposes. 🤷🏻♂️
I feel you dog but I believe they are moving towards a new flagship. All the talk is that nothing has been better than the MPC 3000 sonically. I assume the next flagship will give us that sonics back. This will be amazing for your style of music. Nice beat!
is there a mode or button somewhere i heard about or read about that makes all the new version mpc's sound like the old just by ticking the box or button?
The good news is that the updates are not mandatory nor permanent, and Akai seems to be listening (something gear companies rarely do) so changes are being considered; so we'll just have to wait and see what sticks. For now, for anyone who loves the classic MPC workflow -- don't update your MPC.
That's because that software would be better on a newer more powerful MPC or on a PC. I have the MPC X se and like it the way it is. I can readily admit that it's too SLOW to run MPC 3 software beta or finished.
@@EdwinRagland-x9v i just purchased an mpc one last week and i updated the software to 3.0 which one should i use if i don't know how to use either one 2.15 vrs 3.0? what's your advice for me learning this mpc workflow?
@@Keltzzzz I use 2.15 because it's more of what I m used to. I think it's faster. MPC 3 slowed my MPC X SE down so much considering that the software is nothing but a face lift. And it's just a beta. When it's all said and done you might have to pay for it.
@@extendedplay8830 because it's a different machine made to what it do. Which is dope. Now they should make Something that's more like a DAW workstation. Pads, keyboard 🎹, hook up monitor, mouse, load real PC plugins etc.
Had issue where my key61 would not roll back. Issue resolved: instead of using 256gb micro SD card that was in a SD adapter Inserted into a USB adapter... I tried putting it on my Samsung 4TB T9.... Downgrade(really an upgrade) successful. Mpc3 messed up ALL of my mixes and tracks.. DO NOT UPGRADE TO MP3 , IT IS A STEP WAAAY BACKWARDS. This is for newbs who never used 2.0... Mpc3 is not even better than mpc4000, thi it's more capable. this mpc3 is meant for an entirely different product., like the Akai Azios HD. It's like taking your silverado to chevy for an upgrade, and when u pick ur truck up, Now it's in the format of a chevy Cruz. This was a waste... cmon, akai... Fyi, I'm a non sample based producer,no samples. Standalone....just my asr10 days. I play every track with the keyboard... Mpc3 was playing all performed tracks (including purposely muted) at the time no matter what, and effed up the custom mixing to boot. It was like I loaded firmware from a Casio onto the key61..... wtf akai!
Malo does not make beats like that. He doesn’t have that many sequences and groups of sequences are different beats all in one project. He does several sequences to make a beat and puts it in song mode. Then he explodes his tracks and takes them to his DAW. Now with 3.0 he’s using the arranger with one sequence to make a whole beat in song format.
I pray they make a MPC 3000 MK2 one that has the same circuitry of the 3000 with today's bells an whistle such as touch screen, light etc more of a modern look integrated into the old look and layout. if rosum can do the SP12 over idk why Akai acting like they cant.
You guys act as if upgrading to mpc3 is mandatory. I will be upgrading the ram in my live 2. That's beyond the average user, but if you have experience with bga ic's, its not a complicated operation.
I’m having a hard time understanding what it is you have a problem with, the way things are categorized? I still can load up key groups, drum sets, plugins, I’m having a hard time understanding why you don’t like them changing the way it’s presented? Honestly it’s starting to sound like you should be using Renoise, it has what you’re looking for and in a better way, too. It seems like MPC 2 is still going to be compatible with the plugins and key groups and anything you would want it to be compatible with for a long time, so if you don’t like v3 there’s no reason for you to upgrade, keep it the way you like it homie🎉
@@supreme7g I just like it because I’ve only had my MPC a month or so… once I found out 3.0 was coming I just stuck to sampling so I’d be a blank slate. I know I’d be devastated if any of my trackers went to a timeline and piano roll so I get it.
@@boutstaxx they should have just made an arranger add on that you can purchase like they did with stems. Then they could have made some money off the newbies.
@@SKR9HaXoN I would agree with you if they gave Release Notes like every other beta I've used, but it's radio silence. You and I have no idea if time signatures are coming back, because it's missing as of now, and there is precedent with Maschine for a "pro" drum machine without multiple time signature capabilities.
@@Keltzzzz you got another year or so before they drop a new mpc but it will be along the same lines of what they released already. If you don't have a mpc just get one they are good and support will last.
I agree...That 3.0 isn't for me, I'm not fooling with that.....Make a new MPC for that 3.0...I'm happy with the MPC X and MPC 2.0....I went from the MPC 2000XL to The MPC X, The MPC X is doing exactly what I need it to do, if I need to go to a Daw...I can load it strait into Logic Pro X, Digital Performer, Or Pro Tools..I could even use Softube Console 1 Mixing system with MPC 2.0, and not use a DAW...I'm good right where I'm at..
wait what is 2.15 in controller mode?? i thought i saw my mpc controlling software on my computer screen but i might be wrong.I only had my mpc for some days or week now. i thought i also saw some dude on the net pull out all his cords and said fudge that daw mode i'm going in the box standalone. not sure what that means this mpc is all new to me
New MPC will not solve the issue your having. They are committed to 3.0 now. Hopefully the they will have a solution for you because I dig that workflow as well….and a new MPC is coming just not sure in what form….flagship replacement maybe?
Great points. I agree with you completely. The current MPC is already pushing its technical limits. If you want to add more functionality… stems, an arranger, etc. It only makes sense to build a new unit that has more processing speed and storage. I was never able to get one of the classic MPCs. But I believe the MPC X and MPC Live 2 was a nice step from the golden era to now. I don’t want to create in a DAW it just doesn’t flow for me. So I definitely don’t want my MPC to become a DAW. 3.0 changes would have been better done to the MPC desktop software.
Did downgrade stray on the second days . Linear view on a small screen what a waisting time.100% with you just make a new MPC for new buyer and leave us alone,we don’t want change work flaw every time,the main goal is to make music nothing else.Bless in Love
@@XBASS247 I won't be giving up working with programs for a arranger which is something I would wouldn't really use. Programs Are a must have for me. If they add programs back then then I'll rejoin the Beta test.
as i read down the comments it seems to me to be it's what you have been USE to and CHANGE. Old Vrs New. older folks don't want the change or too much deviation from what they are use to, younger folks just accept
@@Keltzzzz they had to change it to make it easier for the young people because most could not learn or understand how technically advanced the mpc is. So basically it's stripped down simplified back mpc 2000 with a new twist. Its now new it's actually old. 2000 mpc and back had one program for one track. That's what you have now enjoy
Supreme, The Programs are the same as the Drum Tracks. You can do the SAME thing with the Drum Tracks, save them separately and load them into any project. I keep all my drums on one Track/Program/Kit. Or I can use multiple if I want. Hey you can even save separate Track Effect set ups, and load different effect configurations to your tracks. The players change but the game is the same. 👍🏾
@@supreme7g You can still load up to 128 programs per project. You can even load the same program 128 times, but each one will independent. You can still make 5 beats from the same program. you can load a main program that you'll use to make your edits & create dummy drum track record your seq/riff data & use MIDI Send to send all the dummy tracks back to main drum track/program that you can use to edit all the pads in one place. You can also create a track for only the pad(s) that will be use on each tracks - this wouldn't be the way I go, but it's an option. I started with the MPC1k in 2005 & traded for a 2500 in 2008, got the RS7000 in 2014 after I realized a different clip-based sequencer would be better for me but I've been using the Force in 2021, so most of the new 3.0 stuff is old news to me & other Force dudes I've had way more time to get used to these "new" changes. Maybe I missed something or maybe you just didn't spent enough time with 3.0 or whatever, but everything you was complaining about can be done 3.0, It just done in different. Them keeping the ability to use both OS is smart as hell. It allows them to give the same customers the option to pick their own beat making journey, without selling & or buying a new model. arranger is cool for after you made you long seq & want to edit it , while see all tracks at once to add automations & other final song edits. What really suck to me about MPC3 is that it doesn't have the force clips, matrix & navigation view. I think it's too early to judge MPC3 since it's just a beta, which is the first time Akai has ever did this which maybe why some people don't realize that & are making premature decisions.
@@Harlem-Instrumental if all that works for great use it. We all don't work the nor use the same tools to make music. Enjoy 3.0. I personally don't need arranger now any of the simplified dumbed down DAW type work flow. I have Ableton when I need a DAW.
I’m not downgrading. I’m putting in the work to learn everything about it. This is nothing but laziness and unnecessary complaining. Stop all the whining and take the time to LEARN the software. Why make another MPC when you’ll still have to learn everything about it. When people spend money and a company wants to bless you with free upgrades you have lazy individuals that will still complain. I wonder how yall studied for tests in school to excel
The issue he's referring to is not about learning anything new. The video he referenced goes into more detail, but the issue being addressed processing power and (more importantly) ram. The average middle of the road smartphone nowadays has 8-12 gigs of ram. That being said, akai, is squeezing a lot of functionality out of the hardware that they're working with. They're putting a lot of time and effort into optimizing their software, which in turn shows a lot of dedication to their end users.
I have only one MPC unit at home and I don't see the reason to fucked it up even just for an hour only to test a Beta version for AKAI...I am good with the 2.15, arrange window can wait for now.
damn this dude been on youtube for almost 20 years salute
I'm in full support of Akai.
The final product may be what everyone wants and needs .
I have a business to run so I don't have time to beta test..
i'm waiting since mpc studio in 2012 for this day hahaa ....akai "professional" naaah
Damn i remember when the 2500 came out . me and my boiz bought one and we watched your shit religiously back then. every drop
6:29 is 💯😎👍🏾🔥
Big up Su-Preme. I learnt a lot from you back in the 2000xl days. Copped your DVDs etc. I've stuck to the script and it works for me. Salute 🫡
WOW! You've been doing this for years. Your beats are dope too! I remember watching one of your 2010 videos years ago back when you were on the MPC2500. You had the big "2010" sunglasses on. Hahaha. I also have an MPC2500 and a MPC X. I bought my first MPC in late 2004 (red and blue MPC1000) and my first "flagship" MPC (the MPC4000) a few months later around February of 2005. I still have my MPC4000 as well (I'm NEVER getting rid of that one). I no longer have a MPC1000, but I replaced it with an MPC One and more recently replaced the MPC One with the MPC Key-37, which I think is the best portable take anywhere MPC for my needs (because it has a keyboard built in and I like to play keys). I don't do much sampling. So yeah, I use keyboards and synthesizers a lot in my beats.
BTW, I did try out the new MPC 3.0 software on my MPC Key-37. While I do like some of the new features Akai added, there are still some bugs that need to be fixed, and there are a few things I like in 2.0 that were removed. The main one is being able to load a bunch of programs and select from a list of multiple programs to assign to a track. That's the way I work, too. A lot of people like the old-school MPC workflow. Why change it? But yeah, because of the major bugs that still need to be fixed and the fact I have a lot of older projects from 2.0, I downgraded back to 2.15 and I will stick with that for a while until 3.0 is stable enough and Akai decides to bring back the major features they omitted. I know they're going to bring back track mutes, which is great. I hope one day, they decide to bring back multiple programs, too, and have program/track assignments work the same way they do in 2.15. To be honest, that's the main thing that's a deal breaker for me. I like to load multiple programs at once and freely pick and choose any one of them to use in whatever track in whatever sequence I want. This is how I come up with ideas, too, because certain drumkits or sounds can spark new creative ideas. Then, I can work quickly while building a track.
Oh yeah. You wanna know what 's absolutely great about 2.0? I took the first beats I ever made on the red and blue MPC1000 from 2004 when I first got it and, to my amazement, I was recently able to load them them up in my MPC Key-37 (programs, sequences, everything!) and with a few minor tweaks to the drum programs, they sound almost exactly the way they did back in the day on the MPC1000!!!! I'm talking about beats from 20 years ago!!! They still load and play on these new machines!!!
Great video! A lot of people was looking for this new upgrade, but what kills me is that they don't even know how to work their machine and yet you want to upgrade to a new software. So when you show that man your different programs he didn't even know what you were talking about cuz he does know how to work. His machine hell. I don't even know how to work in my machine. I'm not going to change to the new software until I can get a full understanding of what I'm doing everyday is a learning experience with the mpcx. Once again, great video! Learn how to work your machines before you upgrade to the newest software
Wow I didn't look at it that way.
People really don't know how to fully use the MPC as it is right now.
But want something new.
They really don't know what they want.
@@supreme7gI’m new to the Mpc game and so far I like it the update works like daw
@@mikeisrael268I'm in two minds here as I just got mine but don't know if it's worth learning the old way of working if at some point they replace it with mpc 3 and then I have to learn again.
Facts!💯 Thank you.
That's exactly what I said.
Why not just make a new machine. What are we really doing at this point.
It’s coming that’s why the software hasn’t dropped yet
Money?? if it is completlly all new with new tech in it, it may cost more than most might be willing to pay for.
I agree that the software is horrible compared to an actual DAW / whereas the MPC in standalone has pretty much everything needed to have a portable DAW.
I have always thought it’d be great if they gave us an option to run it in a simple/classic mode - where the UI would be much closer to the MPC1000 with or without JJOS or MPC4000 or even 60/3000 OS style with some obvious improvements (mute groups, fx, resample, audio tracks, variable sample rate)
I put 3.0 on my beloved MPC Live and immediately couldn’t work how I have gotten used to using the machine so I reverted the OS and now it seems the firmware is glitching now.
All in all I fully concur with everything you say in this vid
I tried 3.0 for a few days... totally agree with what you said. I hit the downgrade button.
NEVER MAKE HEAT IN A BETA!!! It's in extremely early stages of beta testing. Shit is bound to be messed up. I am actually feeling it although I won't actually use it until it is released in it's final form with all the bugs worked out. It's definitely going to be dope. Does not seem like they are trying to make it a daw to me just more streamlined. Being able to access program edit by just touching the sample from the main screen is so nice, grid arranger is cool also. The arrangement view is also good for after you build your beat out in song mode and convert to a sequence. I cant see building and entire track out in arrangement view shit would be mad tideous. Having programs designated to their own tracks makes why more since IMHO also having multiple beats in one project is just messy and unorganized. 1 project 1 beat 1 name super simple. Also you won't have to wait so long for your projects to load(I was like god damn my boy)... more time to bang out beats!
Family...its simple..AKAI can simply keep the Legacy Layout 👌 as in the 2.15 and have the 3.0 as a Plugin Arrangement...Facts....we need that Modular units in the past....Peace God
I have no arguments with those who want the arranger.
My beef is they broke how track mutes work in Song mode. Don't take from others to give to someone else. Don't break my workflow and projects in progress to give someone something new. Leave the original functionality intact.
Bro if you would watch the akai MPC 3.0 intro video it does the same exact thing as 2.15 it’s just a little different than what you were used to
Thank you!!!
If he's doesn't feel it. He doesn't feel it. Fuck it. Why do you even give a fuck?
@@TheRealOBZRV a weirdo I was giving him a pointer idc if he likes it or not
But it's too processor demanding. The software would great on a PC but the current MPC standalones are TOO SLOW to become a DAW.
@@EdwinRagland-x9v it works perfectly fine for what I do and I think it’s because I’m going from a daw to MPC and not the other way around
It was all about getting mp3 out in time for this holiday so more people would buy mpcs and mpc plug-ins etc.
Back to 2.whatever,, gotta get that work in.,! Thnx, good ideas for them as a new DAW, then new equipment to support
I've been working on my workflow with the Live since the first one, I think I got it down finally this year, so there's no way I can upgrade. I'd be starting over. This thing is perfect how it is, I'm good.
I have mixed feelings. I installed the beta and I love the arranger, the new interface, mixer… but opening old projects from MPC2 or MPC1000 is being a pain. From 6 or 7 tracks, it now creates over 30 different tracks (most of them MIDI) and it takes ages to rearrange everything. I could not find the way to delete a sequence (it’s probably there but I cannot find it). Creating song arrangements from scratch with new version is a pleasure though. So for now I’ll be downgrading until official version is released and then I will think about it.
I was unsure about the 3.0 but now since a couple of sessions i absolutely love it. But i understand why people want to switch back.
Boss man don’t sleep on the mpc software. I just had this conversation with my boy today. Akai software can be in the runnings with ableton and protools if they play their cards right. You’re dead right on the processing power which is the reason I use the software with the mpc. I’m sample crazy and intricate and just the mpc alone will not do it for me. Me I’m not touching the mpc 3 until they come out with software for it and all the bugs are worked out. Your beats are dope fam! You definitely earned a subscribe and a like from me! 🫡🦾
You spoke all my thoughts. Great minds think alike. I make beats the same way. I have like 10 different beats and songs on 1 program. We old school know the way. Akai MPC for life! 👍👍👍👍👍
Im feeling your beats old school. You from my era.
I came up off the 2000-then 2000xl & 1000 honestly I feel you but I had to get over the loop I now also have a live2 & 61 key and there is so many benefits as far as storage and time corrections etc but I haven’t upgrade no software
Don't. When the MPC 3 software is done it will require a whole NEW MPC standalone.
@@EdwinRagland-x9v what? I'm told you can even downgrade back to your previous version
I say keep the best of the past versions and implement some stuff that seems important. Simple. Everyone happy and you get to keep your work flow as you feel comfortable. I do agree akai may need better processors and ram if you wanna make it a DAW.. fire beat at around 8:30
I did a live set a few weeks ago. Didn't have time to fw the new workflow so I used 2.1. I ran into crash issues/stuttering/glitching. this was because I had so many samples in one project and the cpu couldn't handle all these hot ass fire ass beats. 3.0 has disk streaming so that is the major perk of 3.0 to me.
I worry if Akai made a new machine it would have all the same incompatibility issues and maybe even more. I guess good for them for trying to do the most with whats going on instead of making everyone shell out another 1000 bucks.
Im giving 3.0 a week or two and if its still whack then I have no issues with 2.15. peace
let MPC's stay MPC's and daw stay daw. i'm ok with innovation but dont slaughter the great and trusted workflow that the mighty Roger Linn invented and gave us. this 3.0 is not innovation, is homologation regarding the main structure. the new stuff like slice motion is great but i dont want to ditch my versatile workflow for just that and a few more bells and whistles , no way. peace.
Then you’ll just be left in the past, while the entire world passes you by
@@JayLayne :D :D :D :D :D u are funny
I feel the same. I'm staying with 2.15.1 forever. I don't need a new DAW.
My favorite DAW is Reason .
@@JayLayneWill this new software help you make better beats. No. It's about the music not the equipment. I know people with new everything but music is still lacking.
I remember when Ren came out.
Everyone was selling their old MPC's say stand alone is dead buying controllers . maschine was the new thing.
I sat that one out stayed with my mpc 2500.
Everyone said we would be left behind 😂
Boom stand alone came back. In a bigger way.
We just going through that again.
I'll give it another when they get to the final product.
Preme you keep it Real Thanks for what you do and give us you cool.
They already have it, they are just taking their time with the releases. Someone has that one prototype in the company for sure. Best advice and I do my work flow the same way, So when you said you were going back. lmfao I already know. that project is a kit in its self
Everything never stays the same. Im considered a old head too. I still have my 2500, 500, live and x. I switch back and forth 3.0 is the future
@@levonjones907 it's new to the MPC but not new in the biz.
The new stuff for the mpc has been around forever.
lol 😂 Thats exactly what I did teo days after the ip-date beta….
Indeed they should just do that, MPC 2024 :•)
Great video bro ❤
I couldnt even get my external hard drive to read with the beta. All my samples, plugins, expansions etc are on that so thst bummed me out completely.
Tried the default kit etc and there was one plugin that was already onstalled but overall i wasnt really wowed by the workflow.
Like you and many I loved the separate programs and ease of function to get to designated areas.
If they tweak more then maybe I'll dive into the fonal product but i unfortunately had to roll back as well for the time being.
Never give up... it's you... well, good thing you have a hobby to invest in.
Just went back myself, the looper export options are gone. I use the looper with every project to make my own samples playing guitar and bass, now I can only put loops in an audio track instead of a drum program/pad.
Bro I been watching you since before I could afford an MPC. Now I have 2
Exactly. Why jump into a crowded arena? Should’ve kept the workflow. They’ll gain some new and lose some longtime users. Or they’ll just stick to the old version.
Why would they lose anyone? Its not like you can't keep mpc2 active.
I bought one again solely because of the MPC 3.0 software, and now I'm getting along great with it. I really like the workflow, especially drawing in automation, etc., but of course, I can understand it. I hope the old workflow will be implemented as well.
PEACE SU PREME
THIS IS SCIENTIFIC BASHEEM I HAD A QUESTIION ON THE APP YOU CREATED. IF EVER POSSIBLE YOU CAN REACH OUT TO ME.
Hit me on Facebook Preme wilder
Thanks. For. Video. Beatz
I beleive they akai is making a new mpc. (Speculation)
As far as the 3.0 update , I didnt update from 2.15 because I usually wait to update unless I really need to.
I make beats the same way.. maybe 4 beats per project. They say you can't do it like that on mpc 3.. so I'm not messing with that update
Its still in “BETA”
@@SKR9HaXoN word if they change that aspect of the update it might work for me.
You are absolutely correct with this take
I had to downgrade too PREME…
Makes sense, it's a *beta* version of the software. It probably shouldn't have been released to the general public, but releasing early software to the general public has become the norm.
It probably should have been a closed beta instead of a public beta. Making it a public beta only opened Akai to a lot of criticism, as many consumers don't truly understand that by installing the beta software, they are in effect agreeing to be beta *testers* for software that *isn't developed enough to be released for sale,* hence the software being offered for free.
When this is done in the computer world, it is advised not to install such software on one's primary computer, but rather a backup or spare computer. The same logic would apply here, but I'm not sure that the average MPC user has a spare machine to use just for testing purposes. 🤷🏻♂️
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I feel you dog but I believe they are moving towards a new flagship. All the talk is that nothing has been better than the MPC 3000 sonically. I assume the next flagship will give us that sonics back. This will be amazing for your style of music. Nice beat!
is there a mode or button somewhere i heard about or read about that makes all the new version mpc's sound like the old just by ticking the box or button?
@@KeltzzzzNaw bruh! You have to get outboard gear to make the X sound any where close to the old machines.
The good news is that the updates are not mandatory nor permanent, and Akai seems to be listening (something gear companies rarely do) so changes are being considered; so we'll just have to wait and see what sticks. For now, for anyone who loves the classic MPC workflow -- don't update your MPC.
Its crazy how yall complaining about an update that’s still in “BETA” which means that its not complete yet.
That's because that software would be better on a newer more powerful MPC or on a PC. I have the MPC X se and like it the way it is. I can readily admit that it's too SLOW to run MPC 3 software beta or finished.
@@EdwinRagland-x9v i just purchased an mpc one last week and i updated the software to 3.0 which one should i use if i don't know how to use either one 2.15 vrs 3.0? what's your advice for me learning this mpc workflow?
@@Keltzzzz I use 2.15 because it's more of what I m used to. I think it's faster. MPC 3 slowed my MPC X SE down so much considering that the software is nothing but a face lift.
And it's just a beta. When it's all said and done you might have to pay for it.
The Akai Force has a better workflow than the 3.0 update
@@StatetrooperBillyBlast that doesn’t change my initial point. The Mpc 3.0 is not a better workflow than the force especially with arranging.
Facts , I got two Akai forces
Shits is fire 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
@@extendedplay8830 because it's a different machine made to what it do.
Which is dope.
Now they should make
Something that's more like a DAW workstation.
Pads, keyboard 🎹, hook up monitor, mouse, load real PC plugins etc.
If I wanted or cared for the Force workflow, I'd have a Force. I don't but I have three MPCs.
@@supreme7g wait what i thought controller mode does what you're saying when using one of the newer MPC'S
Had issue where my key61 would not roll back.
Issue resolved: instead of using 256gb micro SD card that was in a SD adapter Inserted into a USB adapter... I tried putting it on my Samsung 4TB T9....
Downgrade(really an upgrade) successful.
Mpc3 messed up ALL of my mixes and tracks..
DO NOT UPGRADE TO MP3 , IT IS A STEP WAAAY BACKWARDS. This is for newbs who never used 2.0...
Mpc3 is not even better than mpc4000, thi it's more capable.
this mpc3 is meant for an entirely different product., like the Akai Azios HD.
It's like taking your silverado to chevy for an upgrade, and when u pick ur truck up, Now it's in the format of a chevy Cruz.
This was a waste... cmon, akai...
Fyi, I'm a non sample based producer,no samples. Standalone....just my asr10 days. I play every track with the keyboard...
Mpc3 was playing all performed tracks (including purposely muted) at the time no matter what, and effed up the custom mixing to boot.
It was like I loaded firmware from a Casio onto the key61..... wtf akai!
Malo does not make beats like that. He doesn’t have that many sequences and groups of sequences are different beats all in one project. He does several sequences to make a beat and puts it in song mode. Then he explodes his tracks and takes them to his DAW. Now with 3.0 he’s using the arranger with one sequence to make a whole beat in song format.
I pray they make a MPC 3000 MK2 one that has the same circuitry of the 3000 with today's bells an whistle such as touch screen, light etc more of a modern look integrated into the old look and layout. if rosum can do the SP12 over idk why Akai acting like they cant.
Don’t be so married to anything that you can’t learn. Once you stop learning new shit is the beginning of your death. Big facts
Facts 😎
Maan i roll back my system and all my beats what i mad with the 3. is have an error message now and i cant open...
You guys act as if upgrading to mpc3 is mandatory. I will be upgrading the ram in my live 2. That's beyond the average user, but if you have experience with bga ic's, its not a complicated operation.
What's up with mpc 2 .15+? Just add some of a the new features in a old school format.
Can you link where you got the MPC hat? Thanks
Same, looks like I’m 2.15 ✅‼️ I’m realizing it’s a good flow as it was, gotta be happy without a update 😖🤡⁉️
I know that's right God I'm still trying to learn, master the 2.15 workflow. Peace
0:59 Huh?!?! 😳🤔
Bruh🤦🏾🤷🏾
I’m having a hard time understanding what it is you have a problem with, the way things are categorized? I still can load up key groups, drum sets, plugins, I’m having a hard time understanding why you don’t like them changing the way it’s presented? Honestly it’s starting to sound like you should be using Renoise, it has what you’re looking for and in a better way, too. It seems like MPC 2 is still going to be compatible with the plugins and key groups and anything you would want it to be compatible with for a long time, so if you don’t like v3 there’s no reason for you to upgrade, keep it the way you like it homie🎉
Facts.
I downgraded 2:15 works for me.
Enjoy 3.0.
I don't need the arranger I just wanted to play it once.
That's about it.
@@supreme7g I just like it because I’ve only had my MPC a month or so… once I found out 3.0 was coming I just stuck to sampling so I’d be a blank slate. I know I’d be devastated if any of my trackers went to a timeline and piano roll so I get it.
bruh 2:24 $low down we just broke in our mpc live 2 hardware. aint trying spend more
I Feel like they are trying to appease newbies bye breaking a legendary workflow even chopping loops and converting those into programs is janky
@@boutstaxx they should have just made an arranger add on that you can purchase like they did with stems.
Then they could have made some money off the newbies.
That beat @16:47 has a “it’s time to get butt naked” with shortie on a Saturday night Sunday morning vibe. 💩🔥🫡
IMO just bring back Mutes, Programs, Time Signatures and Clips. They took too many things away so far.
EXACTLY!!!
Ok.... the new z28 from 1982 is coming out just for you!
@@jr4times730 brain dead comment
Bro its still in beta, what about that you all don’t get
@@SKR9HaXoN I would agree with you if they gave Release Notes like every other beta I've used, but it's radio silence. You and I have no idea if time signatures are coming back, because it's missing as of now, and there is precedent with Maschine for a "pro" drum machine without multiple time signature capabilities.
I haven't upgraded yet 😂
I think software was fine. Jus needed minor tweaks
the one plus and mpc key was there effort at new mpcs.
so is what you're saying it's a fail or the new mpc's are okay?
@@Keltzzzz you got another year or so before they drop a new mpc but it will be along the same lines of what they released already. If you don't have a mpc just get one they are good and support will last.
i have downgrade last night... lot of beug.. and the interface is very strange for me.. and you ?
Agree 100%
The MPC Ren was dogshit!
I paid $500 for mine now it have sound card issue waste of $
@@832djhykiThis hurt my feelings. I still love my Renaissance. 😞😁
@@EdwinRagland-x9v yep me too Guess i will keep it for wall art 🤣
I downgraded after the first couple of days....i prefer the traditional way to make beats with the modern twist
I agree...That 3.0 isn't for me, I'm not fooling with that.....Make a new MPC for that 3.0...I'm happy with the MPC X and MPC 2.0....I went from the MPC 2000XL to The MPC X, The MPC X is doing exactly what I need it to do, if I need to go to a Daw...I can load it strait into Logic Pro X, Digital Performer, Or Pro Tools..I could even use Softube Console 1 Mixing system with MPC 2.0, and not use a DAW...I'm good right where I'm at..
wait what is 2.15 in controller mode?? i thought i saw my mpc controlling software on my computer screen but i might be wrong.I only had my mpc for some days or week now. i thought i also saw some dude on the net pull out all his cords and said fudge that daw mode i'm going in the box standalone. not sure what that means this mpc is all new to me
Hey OG another update just came out try it out again if it does not work downgrade again
New MPC will not solve the issue your having. They are committed to 3.0 now. Hopefully the they will have a solution for you because I dig that workflow as well….and a new MPC is coming just not sure in what form….flagship replacement maybe?
Yo, God that's real.
Yeah i downloaded too
Great points. I agree with you completely. The current MPC is already pushing its technical limits. If you want to add more functionality… stems, an arranger, etc. It only makes sense to build a new unit that has more processing speed and storage. I was never able to get one of the classic MPCs. But I believe the MPC X and MPC Live 2 was a nice step from the golden era to now. I don’t want to create in a DAW it just doesn’t flow for me. So I definitely don’t want my MPC to become a DAW. 3.0 changes would have been better done to the MPC desktop software.
They just drop mpc key 37 why create another mpc my g respectfully ?
Make a DAW workstation.
Keys is just a MPC with a keyboard 🎹.
I like the mpc keys 37 or 61
Did downgrade stray on the second days . Linear view on a small screen what a waisting time.100% with you just make a new MPC for new buyer and leave us alone,we don’t want change work flaw every time,the main goal is to make music nothing else.Bless in Love
I downgraded too....I cant deal with the damn beta.... Fix it then ill think about it.
Check out MALO BEATS
ruclips.net/video/1Yy4beJr3n4/видео.htmlsi=Q_n9iMELfqV6k_wq
i love the new beta
its made my work flow faster
whats the problem here
@@XBASS247 I won't be giving up working with programs for a arranger which is something I would wouldn't really use.
Programs Are a must have for me.
If they add programs back then then I'll rejoin the Beta test.
@@supreme7g programs are still there my brother
@@supreme7g and clips is audio at the mo everything synced in audio chanel then import it too a drum program ,it works the same as clips
as i read down the comments it seems to me to be it's what you have been USE to and CHANGE. Old Vrs New. older folks don't want the change or too much deviation from what they are use to, younger folks just accept
@@Keltzzzz they had to change it to make it easier for the young people because most could not learn or understand how technically advanced the mpc is.
So basically it's stripped down simplified back mpc 2000 with a new twist.
Its now new it's actually old.
2000 mpc and back had one program for one track.
That's what you have now enjoy
Supreme, The Programs are the same as the Drum Tracks. You can do the SAME thing with the Drum Tracks, save them separately and load them into any project. I keep all my drums on one Track/Program/Kit. Or I can use multiple if I want. Hey you can even save separate Track Effect set ups, and load different effect configurations to your tracks. The players change but the game is the same. 👍🏾
@@digitaldiezel5870 make a video doing it.
But why is the arranger up front.
That's something I'm not going to use everyday.
@@supreme7g You can still load up to 128 programs per project. You can even load the same program 128 times, but each one will independent. You can still make 5 beats from the same program. you can load a main program that you'll use to make your edits & create dummy drum track record your seq/riff data & use MIDI Send to send all the dummy tracks back to main drum track/program that you can use to edit all the pads in one place. You can also create a track for only the pad(s) that will be use on each tracks - this wouldn't be the way I go, but it's an option.
I started with the MPC1k in 2005 & traded for a 2500 in 2008, got the RS7000 in 2014 after I realized a different clip-based sequencer would be better for me but I've been using the Force in 2021, so most of the new 3.0 stuff is old news to me & other Force dudes I've had way more time to get used to these "new" changes. Maybe I missed something or maybe you just didn't spent enough time with 3.0 or whatever, but everything you was complaining about can be done 3.0, It just done in different.
Them keeping the ability to use both OS is smart as hell. It allows them to give the same customers the option to pick their own beat making journey, without selling & or buying a new model. arranger is cool for after you made you long seq & want to edit it , while see all tracks at once to add automations & other final song edits. What really suck to me about MPC3 is that it doesn't have the force clips, matrix & navigation view. I think it's too early to judge MPC3 since it's just a beta, which is the first time Akai has ever did this which maybe why some people don't realize that & are making premature decisions.
@@Harlem-Instrumental if all that works for great use it.
We all don't work the nor use the same tools to make music.
Enjoy 3.0.
I personally don't need arranger now any of the simplified dumbed down DAW type work flow. I have Ableton when I need a DAW.
When I loaded up old beats, I got an "unsupported time signature " message and it played my beats in half time..
@@Harlem-InstrumentalIs there a workaround to the "unsupported time signature " issue ?
I’m doing that shit right the fuck now lol
u seem like you from new york OG
The MPC 500 was the joint!!! Very impressive and packed a lot for a small unit!!!
I take it back i rolled back
its good but it needs fixing
akai will stop supporting mpc 2.0 very soon
That's cool.
Yea. 3.4 just isn’t it!
3.0 is trash
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These dudes at Akai about to alienate 90 percent of their consumer based
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I’m not downgrading. I’m putting in the work to learn everything about it. This is nothing but laziness and unnecessary complaining. Stop all the whining and take the time to LEARN the software. Why make another MPC when you’ll still have to learn everything about it. When people spend money and a company wants to bless you with free upgrades you have lazy individuals that will still complain. I wonder how yall studied for tests in school to excel
The issue he's referring to is not about learning anything new. The video he referenced goes into more detail, but the issue being addressed processing power and (more importantly) ram. The average middle of the road smartphone nowadays has 8-12 gigs of ram. That being said, akai, is squeezing a lot of functionality out of the hardware that they're working with. They're putting a lot of time and effort into optimizing their software, which in turn shows a lot of dedication to their end users.
He ain't complaining....mi yut...
Well I stand corrected. So I apologize to the god, Supreme. Pardon me god for my rebuttal on your video. Peace!!!
It’s funny because people would get these new phones with these new features advanced features and will embrace that, but you can’t embrace this? 😔
@@ariestrucker7832 Facts!
You deaf or something?
I have only one MPC unit at home and I don't see the reason to fucked it up even just for an hour only to test a Beta version for AKAI...I am good with the 2.15, arrange window can wait for now.