@@seanleaf3165 MEUs (Marine Expeditionary Unit) consist of infantry Battalion Landing Team (BLT), Reconnaissance Platoon, and Force Reconnaissance Platoon. Recon units are Special Operations Capable forces, reserved for the MEU and MAGTF instead of attached to SOCOM.
@@seanleaf3165 The MEU is a big community, one MEU is made up of one infantry battalion, one tiltrotor squadron, one carrier-based close air support squadron, and one combat logistics battalion, they do everything together because the point of an MEU is to forward deploy, defend and fight for their Fleet. The special forces is only a very small and secretive portion of the MEU.
met (very few) recon and force recon marines, and have to say the force recon marine was one of the humblest and most down to earth Marines I've ever known
I'm an 0341 and I met some great recon and Marsov marines. They're great at their jobs. A lot of Infantry guys complain about not doing some cool shit like this. But my best answer is that we may be the few and the proud. But this gentleman are the few and the proud within the few and the proud. Takes a special kind of mentality to be a special forces Marine. All of them are not just great warfighters, but they're also great leaders
I have never served, nor do I have the intention to. However, I have studied amazing men that served in the military, from the wisdom taught by generals to the wisdom taught by special forces operators. I must have read at least 10 books written by retired military personal and I must say, I have learned a lot. I have learned about discipline, about persistence, about the power of good goals. I have learned about the idea of leadership and of taking complete ownership of your situation. I will probably never fire an M4. I will probably never wear battle fatigues. However, these videos and all the wisdom left behind by the great men and women that served in the military will always serve me towards accomplishing my own personal goals and endeavors. These people are more brave, more hardworking, more motivated then I'll ever be but I'm proud to know that I've took so many lessons from the military mindset and implemented them in my own life. For this, even if I'm not from the US, even if I've never served, all branches of the military have my gratitude.
Why sit on the shoulders of giants?, instead join and become one yourself. You can learn a lot from books, but there’s so much you can only learn from the actual experiences.
While in Okinawa our StaffSergeant was straight from Force Recon and he had just finished his 5 years with them and was sent to 2/5, and he was very humble, shit, world of intrinsic knowledge but again humble and respectful of our platoon, smoked like a train but hard core...Semper fucking Fi to all Marines...I had a great pleasure of serving in combat with some great gents...
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Force recon units are NOT part of the division. They are a MEF asset. There are 3 Force Recon companies one associated with each MEF. They used to be an independent MEF unit, but, the initial creation of MARSOC pulled heavily from the Force Recon companies, so shortly after MARSOC was stood up in 2006, the Force Reconnaissance companies were deactivated. After a couple years, it was realized that the Force Reconnaissance mission was still needed, so a fourth company was added to each of the Reconnaissance battalions "D" Company, which became the Force Recon company of each Recon battalion. Well, now, that requires a discussion of the distinctions between Battalion Recon and Force Recon. All recon Marines enter the ranks via the Basic Amphibious Reconnaissance Course, which, I believe, is 3 months long. They go on to get jump qualified at Fort Benning, GA, and scuba qualified at the Marine Corps Combatant Diver Course. Usually, only Marines with at least one tour in the Fleet are allowed to apply for recon, so, they are usually more mature, but, their first step after schools is placement in a recon battalion. There are 3 recon Battalions--one associated with each Division. Battalion Reconnaissance is a Division asset. What this means is that Battalion Recon works for the Marine Division CG and usually works within the artillery fan of the division to collect information on the enemy directly pertinent to division operations. . Force recon works at the force level--the MAGTF and higher level. So, while each reconnaissance battalion works directly for the division commander, each Force Reconnaissance company (although admin'd within the Recon Battalion) works directly for the MEF CG--or the commander of the division commander. What that means is that Force Recon usually works BEYOND the artillery fan--super deep in enemy territory, often without the possibility of even air support. Because of the extreme difficulty and sensitivity of the Force Recon mission, only the best of Battalion Recon will get to move into Force. That means that Force is "the best of the best." On an historical note--Marine Amphibious Reconnaissance developed right alongside the Navy UDT teams of WWII. Whereas UDT did have an offensive mission that took them covertly into foreign harbors to set charges underneath enemy naval vessels, they also were involved in beach reconnaissance and obstacle removal before landing forces debarked into landing craft in amphibious operations. The Marine Amphibious Reconnaissance Company was primarily responsible for beach reconnaissance and obstacle removal, but, was trained in underwater demolitions as well. The concept of Force Reconnaissance came into being in 1957 (Navy SEALs inception was in 1962). Force Recon pioneered the research in HAHO and HALO insertion methods, as well as SCUBA assents from submarines (they literally climbed into the torpedo tubes and crawled out, at night, and their only orientation to the surface was to follow the bubbles!!). By the early 1960's, Force Recon was running missions around the world in places no one knew Americans even went. They were long regarded as some of the finest, unsung operators in the world, while the SEAL program was in its birth stages. To read of Force Recon missions run in Vietnam is mind blowing. Their stories rank right up there with the LRRPS and Vietnam SEALs.
legend neverdies. Your absolutely right with a lot of this, However I took a recon indoc right out of infantry (0331) school. The day I graduated I volunteered. After I completed the indoc, I went to RIP school. RIP school weeds out the the "stragglers" to give focus to the guys who are ready fot the school. Once graduated we move to BRC (Basic Reconassiance Course). After graduation then we hit the specialty courses. Recon (Battalion), Force (Company). Force is MEU and is smaller. It's more DA (Direct Action). To be Force it requires more training and you have to be selected. Just because you made it to Recon does not mean you made it to Force. I was In from 2000-2012. I was in before MARSOC and was their for the build up and finalization of MARSOC. Although we did alot of "High speed, low drag" missions we were never considered "Special Forces" even though we did alot of the same missions. MARSOC put us on the map amd changed all that. MARSOC pulled most Recon Marines over to the school since we're already trained at most. We went through the motions once again and now recognized as a special forces unit. Your right on the money with your knowledge.
@VWRabbit2008 Remember This Recon Battalion are working For Division asset Force Recon Company working for cmdnt of USMC and somtimes they run ops Joint Task Force with other special ops units MARSOC only working with SOCOM asset sometimes they do work as Joint Special Operation Task Forces under JSOC element. Right now marines doesn't have TIER 1 Units but they do have Tier 1 operators
JA Family RIP was very tough. Had more Marines in there than actual school seats. You had to Earn a spot to go to BRC/ARS. Or stay in RIP longer. I felt bad for the guys who were injured or didn’t get a run at BRC. They just spent another cycle there hating life.
Could someone be so kind as to explain how to get into this? The Recon Marine/Force Recon info is quite confusing. I'm looking for MOS number and required training ect...
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who made this video???? its freaking awesome as a 25V for the Army this is one of the best videos i've seen in so short of time and a great working interview
What? No, you are wrong. If you mean "Special Forces", as in Green Berets, then yes, you can get a 18 X-Ray contract right off the street with the Army. Just like the SEALS, Air Force Special Operations, and Marine Recon (Battalion). To be in Recon you would have a UZ contract and go to BRPC or MART if you pass ITB. Maybe back in the 80's and 90's Recon would only take seasoned Marines after a term in the Fleet, but now you can go to Recon after ITB, or get a Lat Move package approved after spending sometime at your current non-recon duty station (on your first contract), or, Lat Move after your first enlistment. You cannot go straight into Force.
Recon is still under the MAGTF whereas Raiders are under SOCOM. Recon is still attached to the MEF and conducts operations with the regular Marine force. Raiders work with the entire SF community with much more specialized missions; could direct action or training of foreign militaries, snatch and grabs, etc, etc.
Force Recons are more towards of reconnaissance and surveillance and other intelligence gathering operations on specific enemy targets deep in their territories to provide battlefield image to the MEF commander. Marine Raiders are doing other stuff like direct action, special reconnaissance, counter-insurgency, foreign internal defense, counter-drug operations etc. Force Recons are under the MAGTF, while Marine Raiders are under SOCOM.
One operate within the commander's area of responsibility where support can be provided like air support, naval fire support etc. Force Recons operate deeper into enemy territory where it is out support range and where the commander can't see the whole image. And Force Recons operate in smaller teams.
+MrHellotherehowareu little late but haha yeah seems that way doesnt it? no the guy next to him started shooting. if you play very close attention when the guy next to him fired the slide on the dudes pistol wasnt all the way forward yet, but i didnt realize it till you said it haha
I noticed a lot of different kinds of attachments and how these guns run their guns. Some use the lanyards and some don't and a few use different magazines and stocks.
Well I'm assuming now they do. I remember talking a Recon guy way back at in the early 2000s and they got shit when they went into Iraq. I talked to him recently he was chuckling at all the new toys.
Excalibur01 Yeah, Recon and MARSOC get all the fun toys to play with when they get deployed now. Although a lot of times higher tier operators like MARSOC or SEALs buy a lot of their own gear with their own money.
Sanchandamingo Recon Battalions provide reconnaissance for larger Marine forces but they can also do things like Direct Action and VBSS if necessary but they were created to run reconnaissance missions and support conventional operations. The Raiders have more of a focus on Direct Action, Special Reconnaissance, and Counterterrorism/Counterinsurgency. The Marine Special Operations Command is under command of a SOCOM Commander while Recon is a part of MAGTF.
This video is a couple years old. They've swapped those M45a1 1911s for Glocks like most other high tier units. Some will always stay tride and true to the 1911 until they are all broken and gone from U.S. inventory. But Glocks are easier to maintain and the 9mm allows for better standardization with other NATO countries. Like I said though some units, even in the Army, refuse to give up their 1911s. As someone who like both I say, once a Green Beret or Force Recon member starts trading lead at close range I don't know if what particular pistol they do it with is gonna matter all that much.
+Abraham Aragon Enlist as infantry, and you need atleast a 105 GT score on your asvab. When you make it out of boot and head to SOI, if u meet the requirements they'll ask if you want to try out
+Antonio Videla if you want to be a Force Recon operative then you must very seasoned reconnaissance marine in battalion because Force Recon Marines are seasons guys they are veteran guys those marine who have multiple combat deployment in battalion reconnaissance they pick battalion reconnaissance marines once you get invitation from Force they have their own Indoc Training it's very harder also Force candidate get best US Special Operation school
legend neverdies The only difference to my understanding between Battalion and Force recon platoons is that Battalion provides reconnaissance for the GCE commander while Force platoons provide reconnaissance for the MEF commander.
+LJH Most of Force Recon Operators are E-5 or above and Force Company is highest strategic tier which is special operation of USMC Commandant while Recon Battalion is Division asset
I can't be airborne for medical reasons. Could I still join MARSOC in an combat MOS? Is there any SOF in any branch where the ability to parachute is not needed?
Der Usurpator MARSOC and FR and pretty much all US Special Operations Units have to complete jump and dive training. There are hundereds of combat MOS's in the Marine Corps that do not involve jump training so you could probably try for one of those but I think you should definitely talk to a Marine recruiter about this stuff because they are going to know the most about this stuff and are going to be able to help you the most. Remember the recruiter is not there to be a big scary dude trying to make a Marine out of you. He is just there to try and help you as much as possible when choosing an MOS, taking the ASVAB, and going through MEP's.
***** Jack Colby It's because of my spine. I can carry heavy backpack but I don't meet the physical requirements to parachute. The risk of injury is simply too great (btw this is why I can't become a pilot too...). I was hoping to find any SOF that doesn't rejects everyone having this restriction. The world isn't fair, I'm going to do something else :) halvo11 Good answer, thank you.
+Zippity Doo-Dah! You can state your MOS on your contract as 0321 and you will go to BRC right after boot camp. But if you fail BRC then you go as an open contract and are assigned whatever MOS the Marine Corps needs you in. So its safer to go in as an 0311 and then do BRC after you pass SOI, that way if you fail you are just put in a standard line company as a rifleman.
+steven boyer Well, they have MARSOC. I can't remember if they're the "continuation" of the Marine Raiders or the Raiders themselves, but with a new name. (someone please elaborate on that.) But they have some sort of tie-in with the Raiders. But to answer your question, yes. MARSOC would be the closest thing to it, as they are an elite infantry unit.
Raiders aren't infantry. While they have the 0372 (or 0302 whatever designation for Officers) MOS, they never went to ITB on either coast, and through their passing of ASPOC, A & S, and ITC, are special operators, and function as such. They are not elite "INFANTRY", and they are not the Marine Corps version of the Rangers.
No, not really. While Rangers that are not in the RRC might handle some limited special reconnaissance tasks if the situation dictates, most are a striking, direct action SOF infantry force. The Rangers usually depend on supporting assets from other units outside of their nucleus to help them, such as aviation (160th SOAR usually), artillery, etc., and they don't usually have the staying power-they get in and get out. However, unlike the Marines, they get more funding, have higher standards, and can enforce those standards by kicking problem Rangers out of the regiment. The Marines deploy with the whole package, and can rely on theselves instead of others for aviation, artillery, logistical support etc, due to the MAGTF (MEU, MEB, MEF, SPMAGTF, etc.) concept, and can remain onn site longer than Rangers, but, have lower standards and less funding and mission tasking. When you look at Marine Recon, they are similar in that they are infantrymen trained to a higher standard than your average Marine grunt, and while they are supposed to focus on reconnaissance, they also do limited direct action missions. Force Recon is Battalion Recon Marines that have been around for a few years and are stellar performers that have been to a few schools. After selecting them and passing the Force Recon Indoc, they get to go to even more schools and do more training, and they do even more Direct Action. Mission set wise, the Marines don't really have anything that 100% mirrors what the Rangers do, so it's kind of apples to oranges, even when we consider something like Ranger School and Advanced Infantry Marine Course/ Infantry Small Unit Leaders Course.
Someone tell me, what on earth is in the pringle cans on their back panels? Im assuming pringles or other snacks. I know thats what id put in them. Or crayons. Both for writing and for snacking.
+DavidStnl83 You don't think they are? I respect that opinion. We all have opinions on them, and then there are facts about them. The facts are.........they are both the same. However, one is for killing, the other is for reconnaissance. They can both do each other's job very well though.
+The Arcenal force recon cannot operate nearly as well in the water and historically doesnt come close to the seal's track record. They are damn good soldiers, but this is like comparing the golden state warriors to the 96 bulls. sure, gs is fuvking good, but the bulls have the track record that kicks their ass
legend neverdies Marine Reconnaissance and Force Reconnaissance Companies are Special Operations Forces, listed "Special Operations Capable" in some cases. Marine Raider Regiment is part of USSOCOM (US Special Operations Command) and is, obviously, Special Operations Forces.
Semantics. Yes, Army Special Forces is the denomination of unit identity, and Special Operations is the generic for elite units who perform unconventional warfare. As such, many units are special ops, but only one is called Special Forces, so far as an American unit is concerned. Nonetheless, Special Forces, internationally, can be used as a synonym for Special Operations, despite the fact that a U.S. Army unit has that as its name. So, can we call SEALS, Rangers, CCT, Recon, etc. special forces? As a synonym for Special Ops, yes; as a unit, no. Not really a hill to defend so fervently.
Marine Recon was one of the reasons I joined the Corps. I saw a motivating video from one of my highschool classmates at the time. They were doing calisthenics and you can tell they were hurting. Out of nowhere one of them let's out a war cry. Mind over matter. No matter what physical pain you're suffering you can always give more than you think. Especially if you're an athlete and used to working out. I made it to a STA platoon and tried out for Recon but didn't pass oh well Divine intervention had other plans for me.
I don't see why, the pay grades are the same, and neither can really talk about there work. "SEALs focus more on naval combat, i.e. ship boarding, oil rig capturing etc. MEU/MARSOC is a more amphibious/land oriented unit, and their job can include anything from deep reconnaissance to oceanic topography to raids."
When my dad was in force reconnaissance he trained with navy seals and even thought they were better. The only thing was the seals had a bigger budget and better equipment
Bob Jones They are the scraggly remains after Force Recon was cannibalized to create MARSOC/Raiders. Back in 2006 they stripped all the DA platoons from FR and left them with the sneaks and binoc holders and now they are trying to act like they still got game. Google Task Force Violence, back in 2007 an entire company of MARSOC marines went ape shit and started massacring people including some reporters.
Phil511 If you're talking about the Andrew deGrandpre's cover-up article you should look at other info sources. His article isn't accredited and all major new sources say its bullshit.
Recon is so not what you think it's recon if your in gun fight you failed. A perfect recon mission is one without any combat henst recon unless it's a specific mission which OIF pretty much proved that was a cluster F using recon or trying to find something for them to do.
Yeah, in the old days before everyone wanted to be a “gun slinger”, a successful recon mission was no enemy contact at all. Now they’ve morphed into something unrecognizable.
Every 1 knows the what the S.E.A.L trident looks like when they see it but no 1 knows what the Marine Force Recon symbol is or what it looks like and what it is called like the S.E.A.L trident or Army Ranger Tab
Marine Reconnaissance doesn't have a single insignia per se. The devices worn include parachutist wings (i.e. silver army airborne wings), which after a period of jumps the Marine parachutist earns the Navy/Marine gold parachutist wings. Other units, like ANGLICO for example, also sport the gold wings. In addition, Marine combatant divers earn its device, which was historically the Navy's silver scuba badge, but it has been updated in the last decade+ to the gold Marine combatant diver device. These scuba badges have been nicknamed the "bubbles" devices. The gold wings paired with the bubbles device, while not exclusive to Reconnaissance, is most often used by and is tantamount to Recon insignia. MARSOC/Raiders, on the other hand, have developed its own insignia badge.
I served with these guys in Battlefield 2, very professional, shoutouts to staff sergeant major xXxSlayeR1993xXx.
Are the Marines on a Menu all special forces? Are infantry units apart of the meu? I get confused lol
@@seanleaf3165 MEUs (Marine Expeditionary Unit) consist of infantry Battalion Landing Team (BLT), Reconnaissance Platoon, and Force Reconnaissance Platoon. Recon units are Special Operations Capable forces, reserved for the MEU and MAGTF instead of attached to SOCOM.
@@seanleaf3165 The MEU is a big community, one MEU is made up of one infantry battalion, one tiltrotor squadron, one carrier-based close air support squadron, and one combat logistics battalion, they do everything together because the point of an MEU is to forward deploy, defend and fight for their Fleet. The special forces is only a very small and secretive portion of the MEU.
met (very few) recon and force recon marines, and have to say the force recon marine was one of the humblest and most down to earth Marines I've ever known
yes i can see that
Paul D I agree. But working with Rangers, they’re fucking dickheads
@@edp8301 you are the first person out of THOUSANDS I’ve read that say that
@@zestooo6932 I’ve only heard stories from my father but from what he has told me they are assholes.
@@Maa_aaV I guess different units are different.
I'm an 0341 and I met some great recon and Marsov marines. They're great at their jobs. A lot of Infantry guys complain about not doing some cool shit like this. But my best answer is that we may be the few and the proud. But this gentleman are the few and the proud within the few and the proud. Takes a special kind of mentality to be a special forces Marine. All of them are not just great warfighters, but they're also great leaders
1:22 that recoil control
That would imply there was recoil for him to control. He told that rifle not to give him recoil or muzzle flip, the rifle did the next smart thing...
Shit that dude shooting the 1911 at the end was exceptional
Gun doesn't have much in the first place lol.
Lol mini, maybe if you dont puss out when it comes to guns u can shoot like em too
@mini cooper, stop eating soy and u can shoot like them too, punk.
I have never served, nor do I have the intention to. However, I have studied amazing men that served in the military, from the wisdom taught by generals to the wisdom taught by special forces operators. I must have read at least 10 books written by retired military personal and I must say, I have learned a lot. I have learned about discipline, about persistence, about the power of good goals. I have learned about the idea of leadership and of taking complete ownership of your situation.
I will probably never fire an M4. I will probably never wear battle fatigues. However, these videos and all the wisdom left behind by the great men and women that served in the military will always serve me towards accomplishing my own personal goals and endeavors. These people are more brave, more hardworking, more motivated then I'll ever be but I'm proud to know that I've took so many lessons from the military mindset and implemented them in my own life.
For this, even if I'm not from the US, even if I've never served, all branches of the military have my gratitude.
Read "Always Forward, Always Faithful"
Why sit on the shoulders of giants?, instead join and become one yourself. You can learn a lot from books, but there’s so much you can only learn from the actual experiences.
Nicholas Preble he said he has no intention to serve
While in Okinawa our StaffSergeant was straight from Force Recon and he had just finished his 5 years with them and was sent to 2/5, and he was very humble, shit, world of intrinsic knowledge but again humble and respectful of our platoon, smoked like a train but hard core...Semper fucking Fi to all Marines...I had a great pleasure of serving in combat with some great gents...
I’m currently living in Brazil, but I’ll never forget about the Marine brothers .
Semper fie.
Manuel Satiro you forgot there’s no e after semper fi
You are the best soldiers, Thank you for your effort, dedication, sacrifice and commitment. God bless you🙏🙏❤️❤️
Now that's what this channel needs more Recon Oorah! Can't wait
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I love the SSGT’s calm matter-of-fact manner as he explains all the badass shit they do. Just another day at the office
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Are you okay with an open contract? Of course you are.
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The Komyeta but it’s a joke
Oh honey, you are not. Trust me.
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these Marines are the the elite of the USMC. and of course the ultimate badasses. watch out Daesh.
No, MARSOC are the top dogs in the Corps
MARSOC is SOF. Force Recon is under USMC command.
force recon is basically the conventional elite.
***** yeah you're right about meu, it's just here they're talking about a force recon unit WITHIN the MEU.
+mrln_ fxl a recon(raider)team within the meu is tagged mau(marine amphibious unit).
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I was in the trailer platoon (infantry) for a Force recon platoon for the 26th Meu 2012-2013. Most professional, inspiring dudes ive even been around
One of the best reconnaissance and surveillance units in the US military.
Force recon units are NOT part of the division. They are a MEF asset. There are 3 Force Recon companies one associated with each MEF. They used to be an independent MEF unit, but, the initial creation of MARSOC pulled heavily from the Force Recon companies, so shortly after MARSOC was stood up in 2006, the Force Reconnaissance companies were deactivated. After a couple years, it was realized that the Force Reconnaissance mission was still needed, so a fourth company was added to each of the Reconnaissance battalions "D" Company, which became the Force Recon company of each Recon battalion. Well, now, that requires a discussion of the distinctions between Battalion Recon and Force Recon. All recon Marines enter the ranks via the Basic Amphibious Reconnaissance Course, which, I believe, is 3 months long. They go on to get jump qualified at Fort Benning, GA, and scuba qualified at the Marine Corps Combatant Diver Course. Usually, only Marines with at least one tour in the Fleet are allowed to apply for recon, so, they are usually more mature, but, their first step after schools is placement in a recon battalion. There are 3 recon Battalions--one associated with each Division. Battalion Reconnaissance is a Division asset. What this means is that Battalion Recon works for the Marine Division CG and usually works within the artillery fan of the division to collect information on the enemy directly pertinent to division operations. . Force recon works at the force level--the MAGTF and higher level. So, while each reconnaissance battalion works directly for the division commander, each Force Reconnaissance company (although admin'd within the Recon Battalion) works directly for the MEF CG--or the commander of the division commander. What that means is that Force Recon usually works BEYOND the artillery fan--super deep in enemy territory, often without the possibility of even air support. Because of the extreme difficulty and sensitivity of the Force Recon mission, only the best of Battalion Recon will get to move into Force. That means that Force is "the best of the best." On an historical note--Marine Amphibious Reconnaissance developed right alongside the Navy UDT teams of WWII. Whereas UDT did have an offensive mission that took them covertly into foreign harbors to set charges underneath enemy naval vessels, they also were involved in beach reconnaissance and obstacle removal before landing forces debarked into landing craft in amphibious operations. The Marine Amphibious Reconnaissance Company was primarily responsible for beach reconnaissance and obstacle removal, but, was trained in underwater demolitions as well. The concept of Force Reconnaissance came into being in 1957 (Navy SEALs inception was in 1962). Force Recon pioneered the research in HAHO and HALO insertion methods, as well as SCUBA assents from submarines (they literally climbed into the torpedo tubes and crawled out, at night, and their only orientation to the surface was to follow the bubbles!!). By the early 1960's, Force Recon was running missions around the world in places no one knew Americans even went. They were long regarded as some of the finest, unsung operators in the world, while the SEAL program was in its birth stages. To read of Force Recon missions run in Vietnam is mind blowing. Their stories rank right up there with the LRRPS and Vietnam SEALs.
legend neverdies. Your absolutely right with a lot of this, However I took a recon indoc right out of infantry (0331) school. The day I graduated I volunteered. After I completed the indoc, I went to RIP school. RIP school weeds out the the "stragglers" to give focus to the guys who are ready fot the school. Once graduated we move to BRC (Basic Reconassiance Course). After graduation then we hit the specialty courses. Recon (Battalion), Force (Company). Force is MEU and is smaller. It's more DA (Direct Action). To be Force it requires more training and you have to be selected. Just because you made it to Recon does not mean you made it to Force. I was In from 2000-2012. I was in before MARSOC and was their for the build up and finalization of MARSOC. Although we did alot of "High speed, low drag" missions we were never considered "Special Forces" even though we did alot of the same missions. MARSOC put us on the map amd changed all that. MARSOC pulled most Recon Marines over to the school since we're already trained at most. We went through the motions once again and now recognized as a special forces unit. Your right on the money with your knowledge.
@VWRabbit2008 Remember This Recon Battalion are working For Division asset Force Recon Company working for cmdnt of USMC and somtimes they run ops Joint Task Force with other special ops units MARSOC only working with SOCOM asset sometimes they do work as Joint Special Operation Task Forces under JSOC element. Right now marines doesn't have TIER 1 Units but they do have Tier 1 operators
JA Family RIP was very tough. Had more Marines in there than actual school seats. You had to Earn a spot to go to BRC/ARS. Or stay in RIP longer. I felt bad for the guys who were injured or didn’t get a run at BRC. They just spent another cycle there hating life.
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right on, it is truly a world of knowledge to really understand Force Recon and how it all works...
Retired SSGT MEU, stay frosty boys!!
nothing but the greatest of respect
Warriors. Keep to themselves. Training or gone for months at a time. The best.
Could someone be so kind as to explain how to get into this? The Recon Marine/Force Recon info is quite confusing. I'm looking for MOS number and required training ect...
Force recon is so good man
Best of the best of the best!
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Yo at 0:54 look at that target. That’s damn fine shooting.
what's with the G36?
lol
Cross training, probably. Haven’t seen something like that before. Don’t the Dutch use G36s?
My ex is a force recon marine vet. Loved being in camplejuene for 13 years. He went to 20 army, nvy and marine corps schools.
who made this video???? its freaking awesome as a 25V for the Army this is one of the best videos i've seen in so short of time and a great working interview
What is a 25v?
@@nicblank09 combat film producer is the title but they make videos for the Army
I shared a berthing area with Recon while I was on the 31st MEU. They have us POGS with the elites.
I like the SSGT's point on how there is not a lot of recognition with that occupation, you should strive for a job well done! 👍
when i do enlist into the Marines i'm going for Force Recon. Don't know about you guy but i support the Marine Reconnaissance Foundation
+Henry Bowers thing about Force Recon is they only accept seasoned recon marine in FORCE so good luck!!!!
Henry Bowers boot
Did you make force recon?
Brian he never enlisted.
Update?
Swift - Silent - Deadly
makes me homesick for when i was in recon
William Perkins can i get a special forces contract when i enlist?
Kevon Barnes no. You can’t just say “I’m going special forces”. Finish an enlistment term then go back and try out.
What? No, you are wrong. If you mean "Special Forces", as in Green Berets, then yes, you can get a 18 X-Ray contract right off the street with the Army. Just like the SEALS, Air Force Special Operations, and Marine Recon (Battalion). To be in Recon you would have a UZ contract and go to BRPC or MART if you pass ITB. Maybe back in the 80's and 90's Recon would only take seasoned Marines after a term in the Fleet, but now you can go to Recon after ITB, or get a Lat Move package approved after spending sometime at your current non-recon duty station (on your first contract), or, Lat Move after your first enlistment. You cannot go straight into Force.
@@kevonbarnes2431 kinda late but you need to be in another division for a month I believe then you can join MARSOC *if* they are doing their A&S
@@amback2681 🤣🤣🤣 thanks for replying. Im already in the Marines. 1/7 Suicide Charley. I been in for a year and 8 months already
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trying to decide between this or marsoc is frustrating but at least i still got a couple months
Guys please the song on 0:15
Their training is so similar to raiders. How are both different?
Recon is still under the MAGTF whereas Raiders are under SOCOM. Recon is still attached to the MEF and conducts operations with the regular Marine force. Raiders work with the entire SF community with much more specialized missions; could direct action or training of foreign militaries, snatch and grabs, etc, etc.
Force Recons are more towards of reconnaissance and surveillance and other intelligence gathering operations on specific enemy targets deep in their territories to provide battlefield image to the MEF commander. Marine Raiders are doing other stuff like direct action, special reconnaissance, counter-insurgency, foreign internal defense, counter-drug operations etc. Force Recons are under the MAGTF, while Marine Raiders are under SOCOM.
What's the difference between Division Recon and Force Recon? Is it just one being division-based or something?
Division Recon is made up of the best of best force recon members. it's like seal team six is the best of the seals
Force Recon are made up of the best of the best in Division Recon Marines
One operate within the commander's area of responsibility where support can be provided like air support, naval fire support etc. Force Recons operate deeper into enemy territory where it is out support range and where the commander can't see the whole image. And Force Recons operate in smaller teams.
Is it true than Recon hasn't seen combat since 2012-13? That they now mainly do VBSS?
That reload was crisp af
Love the video. Keep up the good work hoorah
At 0:52, did that dude do a AD on that pistol into the air? It looks like it went off before he meant to.
+MrHellotherehowareu little late but haha yeah seems that way doesnt it? no the guy next to him started shooting. if you play very close attention when the guy next to him fired the slide on the dudes pistol wasnt all the way forward yet, but i didnt realize it till you said it haha
I noticed a lot of different kinds of attachments and how these guns run their guns. Some use the lanyards and some don't and a few use different magazines and stocks.
Excalibur01 When you're Recon they give you a lot more funding and more flexibility when it comes to customizing your rifle the way you like it.
Well I'm assuming now they do. I remember talking a Recon guy way back at in the early 2000s and they got shit when they went into Iraq. I talked to him recently he was chuckling at all the new toys.
Excalibur01 Yeah, Recon and MARSOC get all the fun toys to play with when they get deployed now. Although a lot of times higher tier operators like MARSOC or SEALs buy a lot of their own gear with their own money.
More of Force Recon videos please !
What’s the difference of force recon and Marsoc?
Force RECON is exclusively for the Corps, Raiders fall under the umbrella of SOCCOM. Both are equally badass just the leadership is different
Why do they still have MICH helmets?
Former 0331....Recon and Force Recon are the best the Marines have.
whats the difference in force recon and Raiders???
Force Recon doesnt fall under Special Operations Command (SOCOM) whereas the MARSOC Raiders do.
Sanchandamingo Recon Battalions provide reconnaissance for larger Marine forces but they can also do things like Direct Action and VBSS if necessary but they were created to run reconnaissance missions and support conventional operations. The Raiders have more of a focus on Direct Action, Special Reconnaissance, and Counterterrorism/Counterinsurgency. The Marine Special Operations Command is under command of a SOCOM Commander while Recon is a part of MAGTF.
+Sanchandamingo Force Company is highest strategic tier which is special operation of USMC Commandant while Recon Battalion is Division asset
what gun is it called in the picture on the vid
A G36C. The guy that replied is right, but the variants are very much different.
I’m surprised Recon Marines carry 1911’s as a side arm. I thought they would carry Sig’s.
This video is a couple years old. They've swapped those M45a1 1911s for Glocks like most other high tier units. Some will always stay tride and true to the 1911 until they are all broken and gone from U.S. inventory. But Glocks are easier to maintain and the 9mm allows for better standardization with other NATO countries. Like I said though some units, even in the Army, refuse to give up their 1911s. As someone who like both I say, once a Green Beret or Force Recon member starts trading lead at close range I don't know if what particular pistol they do it with is gonna matter all that much.
What are the requirements and training?
+Abraham Aragon Enlist as infantry, and you need atleast a 105 GT score on your asvab. When you make it out of boot and head to SOI, if u meet the requirements they'll ask if you want to try out
Tu see me like we are standing next to each other.. yes fly Girl
1 and 3 battalion are divison recon and the second battalion are soc
All are SOC. Even the MEUs are SOC during their 6 month deployment.
So BB dose recon or regular infantry see more action
Cant wait
How does one join force recon?
+Antonio Videla if you want to be a Force Recon operative then you must very seasoned reconnaissance marine in battalion because Force Recon Marines are seasons guys they are veteran guys those marine who have multiple combat deployment in battalion reconnaissance they pick battalion reconnaissance marines once you get invitation from Force they have their own Indoc Training it's very harder also Force candidate get best US Special Operation school
+legend neverdies That is not correct. You can go through Basic Recon School after you pass boot camp lmao
+LJH Force Recon Company and Battalion Recon isn't same thing and Force Company only take seasoned guys not the fresh out of BRC get your fact right
legend neverdies The only difference to my understanding between Battalion and Force recon platoons is that Battalion provides reconnaissance for the GCE commander while Force platoons provide reconnaissance for the MEF commander.
+LJH Most of Force Recon Operators are E-5 or above and Force Company is highest strategic tier which is special operation of USMC Commandant while Recon Battalion is Division asset
I can't be airborne for medical reasons. Could I still join MARSOC in an combat MOS? Is there any SOF in any branch where the ability to parachute is not needed?
Der Usurpator MARSOC and FR and pretty much all US Special Operations Units have to complete jump and dive training. There are hundereds of combat MOS's in the Marine Corps that do not involve jump training so you could probably try for one of those but I think you should definitely talk to a Marine recruiter about this stuff because they are going to know the most about this stuff and are going to be able to help you the most. Remember the recruiter is not there to be a big scary dude trying to make a Marine out of you. He is just there to try and help you as much as possible when choosing an MOS, taking the ASVAB, and going through MEP's.
What medical reason won't let you jump
***** Jack Colby It's because of my spine. I can carry heavy backpack but I don't meet the physical requirements to parachute. The risk of injury is simply too great (btw this is why I can't become a pilot too...).
I was hoping to find any SOF that doesn't rejects everyone having this restriction. The world isn't fair, I'm going to do something else :)
halvo11 Good answer, thank you.
Der Usurpator No problem!
***** thanks man!
Are their any requirements involved in joining force recon?
+Zippity Doo-Dah! You can state your MOS on your contract as 0321 and you will go to BRC right after boot camp. But if you fail BRC then you go as an open contract and are assigned whatever MOS the Marine Corps needs you in. So its safer to go in as an 0311 and then do BRC after you pass SOI, that way if you fail you are just put in a standard line company as a rifleman.
+LJH exactly my plan
Battalion Recon?
What's the difference between a Recon Marine like the ones in Generation Kill and Force Recon?
+Simon Riley they r the same thing.
Yes. You have to eat the boogers out of a dead mans nose and then have the desire to ask for seconds!
This is so fucking cool
Im 10th prestige in every COD game since W@W, Im ready.
What is that canister on his back at 1:15?
RenoJeremiah Its a piece of camo'd PVC pipe.. They use it like a holster for Bolt cutters, fire axe, sledge hammer etc.. basically for breaching tools
EnterTheFenix awesome, thank you for commenting sir.
Glad to be of service
Can you do 2nd Marines Division?
God Bless you gentlemen. Wish I could've joined you.
Fleet Marine: Has low reg.
Recon Marine: Has no reg.
Watching this video reminds me of a time when I was cool.
Do the Marines have their own version of the Army Rangers? Like an Elite Infantry force?
+steven boyer Well, they have MARSOC. I can't remember if they're the "continuation" of the Marine Raiders or the Raiders themselves, but with a new name. (someone please elaborate on that.) But they have some sort of tie-in with the Raiders. But to answer your question, yes. MARSOC would be the closest thing to it, as they are an elite infantry unit.
Ok, I see. Thanks for enlightening me. And thank you for your service.
I would think Marine Force Recon would be the closest thing to the Army Rangers and MARSOC more like the Green Berets, no?
Raiders aren't infantry. While they have the 0372 (or 0302 whatever designation for Officers) MOS, they never went to ITB on either coast, and through their passing of ASPOC, A & S, and ITC, are special operators, and function as such. They are not elite "INFANTRY", and they are not the Marine Corps version of the Rangers.
No, not really. While Rangers that are not in the RRC might handle some limited special reconnaissance tasks if the situation dictates, most are a striking, direct action SOF infantry force. The Rangers usually depend on supporting assets from other units outside of their nucleus to help them, such as aviation (160th SOAR usually), artillery, etc., and they don't usually have the staying power-they get in and get out. However, unlike the Marines, they get more funding, have higher standards, and can enforce those standards by kicking problem Rangers out of the regiment. The Marines deploy with the whole package, and can rely on theselves instead of others for aviation, artillery, logistical support etc, due to the MAGTF (MEU, MEB, MEF, SPMAGTF, etc.) concept, and can remain onn site longer than Rangers, but, have lower standards and less funding and mission tasking. When you look at Marine Recon, they are similar in that they are infantrymen trained to a higher standard than your average Marine grunt, and while they are supposed to focus on reconnaissance, they also do limited direct action missions. Force Recon is Battalion Recon Marines that have been around for a few years and are stellar performers that have been to a few schools. After selecting them and passing the Force Recon Indoc, they get to go to even more schools and do more training, and they do even more Direct Action. Mission set wise, the Marines don't really have anything that 100% mirrors what the Rangers do, so it's kind of apples to oranges, even when we consider something like Ranger School and Advanced Infantry Marine Course/ Infantry Small Unit Leaders Course.
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what is that big metal tank looking thing some guys carry on their backs????
Heavy round for either Gustav or AT4
I watched this with battlefield music in my head
Someone tell me, what on earth is in the pringle cans on their back panels? Im assuming pringles or other snacks. I know thats what id put in them. Or crayons. Both for writing and for snacking.
Meaner than the navy seals :)
X Fision should say meaner than devgru
hehe, thanks for the laugh
+DavidStnl83 You don't think they are? I respect that opinion. We all have opinions on them, and then there are facts about them. The facts are.........they are both the same. However, one is for killing, the other is for reconnaissance. They can both do each other's job very well though.
+X Fision and more humble/secretive.
+The Arcenal force recon cannot operate nearly as well in the water and historically doesnt come close to the seal's track record. They are damn good soldiers, but this is like comparing the golden state warriors to the 96 bulls. sure, gs is fuvking good, but the bulls have the track record that kicks their ass
Man I wish, I wanna be Marine Force Recon.
man I love the m4 and correct me but that is a 9mm right
Jewell Rogers M45CQBP and as the name implies, in .45ACP.
Jewell Rogers it's an M1911 MEUSOC in .45 ACP
+Parfemarfe I That's the predecessor's name. This is the M45A1 CQBP which is entirely new.
So these guys are special forces?
How to get there?
Special forces is the army. These are force recon marines.
+Robert328851 Force Recon is Special Operation
MARSOC is Special Operation Force
legend neverdies Marine Reconnaissance and Force Reconnaissance Companies are Special Operations Forces, listed "Special Operations Capable" in some cases.
Marine Raider Regiment is part of USSOCOM (US Special Operations Command) and is, obviously, Special Operations Forces.
Semantics. Yes, Army Special Forces is the denomination of unit identity, and Special Operations is the generic for elite units who perform unconventional warfare. As such, many units are special ops, but only one is called Special Forces, so far as an American unit is concerned. Nonetheless, Special Forces, internationally, can be used as a synonym for Special Operations, despite the fact that a U.S. Army unit has that as its name. So, can we call SEALS, Rangers, CCT, Recon, etc. special forces? As a synonym for Special Ops, yes; as a unit, no. Not really a hill to defend so fervently.
Marine Recon was one of the reasons I joined the Corps. I saw a motivating video from one of my highschool classmates at the time. They were doing calisthenics and you can tell they were hurting. Out of nowhere one of them let's out a war cry. Mind over matter. No matter what physical pain you're suffering you can always give more than you think. Especially if you're an athlete and used to working out. I made it to a STA platoon and tried out for Recon but didn't pass oh well Divine intervention had other plans for me.
I think at the end of the day Force Recon is for guys who join the USMC and then realize they really want to be SEALs.
I don't see why, the pay grades are the same, and neither can really talk about there work. "SEALs focus more on naval combat, i.e. ship boarding, oil rig capturing etc. MEU/MARSOC is a more amphibious/land oriented unit, and their job can include anything from deep reconnaissance to oceanic topography to raids."
When my dad was in force reconnaissance he trained with navy seals and even thought they were better. The only thing was the seals had a bigger budget and better equipment
mrin_fxl
Have you ever heard the saying "if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all"?
Look at us, we got 45.'s we're special
Short lived play toys they were.
I miss it
This is Soo cool
I hope to be able to do this someday
bad ass
Badass man
That’s my boyy
arent these guys along with division recon a special ops unit working for the Marine corp?
Bob Jones Marine Recon is special operation capable but not directly part of SOCOM
Bob Jones They are the scraggly remains after Force Recon was cannibalized to create MARSOC/Raiders. Back in 2006 they stripped all the DA platoons from FR and left them with the sneaks and binoc holders and now they are trying to act like they still got game. Google Task Force Violence, back in 2007 an entire company of MARSOC marines went ape shit and started massacring people including some reporters.
Bob Jones Force Recon is special operations
MrPandahammer It was proven that it never happened, look it up
Phil511 If you're talking about the Andrew deGrandpre's cover-up article you should look at other info sources. His article isn't accredited and all major new sources say its bullshit.
Recon is so not what you think it's recon if your in gun fight you failed. A perfect recon mission is one without any combat henst recon unless it's a specific mission which OIF pretty much proved that was a cluster F using recon or trying to find something for them to do.
That’s so true my dad was ex force reconnaissance. He said if they got in to a fire fight something went wrong and he said that happened all the time.
Yeah, in the old days before everyone wanted to be a “gun slinger”, a successful recon mission was no enemy contact at all. Now they’ve morphed into something unrecognizable.
MARSOC vs Force recon , Whats the difference?
Are both MARSOC and RECON teir 2 operators?
Dive- awsome. Love the water.
Air jump- scared as fk! 😅😂😂😂😂 good thing no one cam hear....OR CAN THEY! 😂😂😂😂
assumably the most difficulat variable/aspect of retreival...
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Yeah that m45 program didn't work out so well.
Jesus, Force Recon are still rocking 1911s?
I miss this shit, but my knees went to shit.
I feel your pain, one too many hard landings on rocky DZs.
Goals.
I will do this.
I clicked because of that G36
Retired MOS 0317 / FORCE RECON SCOUT SNIPER here. 💀
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Every 1 knows the what the S.E.A.L trident looks like when they see it but no 1 knows what the Marine Force Recon symbol is or what it looks like and what it is called like the S.E.A.L trident or Army Ranger Tab
Marine Reconnaissance doesn't have a single insignia per se. The devices worn include parachutist wings (i.e. silver army airborne wings), which after a period of jumps the Marine parachutist earns the Navy/Marine gold parachutist wings. Other units, like ANGLICO for example, also sport the gold wings. In addition, Marine combatant divers earn its device, which was historically the Navy's silver scuba badge, but it has been updated in the last decade+ to the gold Marine combatant diver device. These scuba badges have been nicknamed the "bubbles" devices. The gold wings paired with the bubbles device, while not exclusive to Reconnaissance, is most often used by and is tantamount to Recon insignia. MARSOC/Raiders, on the other hand, have developed its own insignia badge.
bro it’s just wings and scuba, why tf should recon get some special pin like what MARSOC did
1st marine Recon symbol bad ass