Looking back, this is seriously one of the greatest regrets I have. I was a line grunt from '05 to '09 and if you served in that period you know how crazy the deployment cycles were. So actual true opportunities to try for Recon did not come often (bout once a year) and when they did, they had very small time frame windows. Usually just a coupla days to sign up. And I never jumped on them. I play the what if game with that all the time. I don't know if I would have made it, but I never even gave myself a chance to least try and that kills me to this day.
eliminshrintar dude that blows. With all the work you were doing you probably didn’t have too much time to do a prep program for Recon to increase your chances of making it unless you wanted to be tired all the time and have no social life. For what it’s worth, I fucked up when I joined and accepted a pog contract when I wanted to be a grunt, so I always regret not fighting for an 03 contract. Maybe you can try to get back in?
We did something special, 99.5% of the American population never serves. It’s ok to feel a little regret about opportunities but in the end you can still look back with the utmost of pride!
I feel you bro my first enlistment I did 2 MEU's back to back (9/11). We didn't have time to sit down with our senior SNCO's and talk B Billets and career paths. Recon never appealed to me until I had a Sgt Major Vasquez dude was an animal. He did triathlons for PT! By that time I was a senior Sgt. On my way out. I wanted to be in Security Forces and eventually be on a F.A.S.T. Co. But it is what it is. Marines going I now have a world of information there is no reason to not achieve any goals in the military today.
I will say this...as far as recruiting for Recon goes, they will never be short of people wanting this kind of badass job. However, I really think the Corps is lacking when it comes to physically preparing people for BRPC while they are in Boot Camp and ITB. Instead of properly stretching, exercising (good form, etc.), and avoiding overuse injuries by making time to recover, we just push recruits and Marines through half ass, random ass pt sessions and hikes that may injure you. Incentive Training is not a sufficient way to prepare you for BRPC. I think we can look at revising our physical training regimen and philosophy in boot camp and ITB, preferably to PT more and with harder workouts while promoting recovery time and decreasing overuse injuries.
ROK Force Recon marine here...I have nothing but the highest respect for US Force Recon! Trained with them during Cobra Gold 2018 and KMEP. Good times. I thought our MREs tasted bad- yours taste like canned shit.
Holy shit dude I worked with ROK Marines back in 2015 on Ulchi Freedom Guardian on Camp Courtney, Okinawa. I even had the fortune to go to Osan and take some liberty in Seoul. Mad respect to you guys! Semper Fi! Proud to be able to share the title of Marine with you guys!
@@cm-pr2ys always victorious brother. You will always be welcome by our fire. Also, I will trade you my ROK curry mre for dogshit w/ sauce. Im presuming you trained with our 2nd div if it was near seoul.
I’m 17 and I recently enlisted into the delayed entry program I go to meps in about a week. I want to be in the 03 field preferably an 0313 or 0311 but in the future I want to be recon more than anything. 👍🏼
Just got out. Either get it right off the back or try a different branch and mos. I’ve worked with too many guys who “wanted to join recon” but always fell short on joining due to unforeseen circumstances or their unit just didn’t let them/timing. Don’t settle. Save yourself the time and energy into something you really want to do 100% and for a good cause.
Trill Ayden US Marine here. If you’re physically capable of it you can sign a recon contract. The only thing is, if you fail it’s basically open contract and they’ll put you wherever they need a marine.
Bryan Hernandez Thank you for the advice I’ve been told similar things I think I might go army because I want to be airborne and be able to go to schools to better myself
I've noticed how today's Reconnaissance depend on high tech. Which I think is fine... don't get me wrong. Anything to get the advantage. But I hope we're not forgetting basics. Moving at night WITHOUT the use of GPS or compass. Communicating long distances WITHOUT the use of radios. Finding and purifying water WHEN you run out of halezone tablets. After a hairy encounter with the enemy, you can lose gear or discover your equipment doesn't work anymore. In either case, I pray we're not forgetting to teach our recon Marines "low-tech" or primitive skills for high tech problems.
Speaking from experience here: there was a definitive shift in the mid 1980’s with Force Recon from long range Reconnaissance missions to Direct Action. Woodcraft, patrolling skills and stealth took a hit. Technology and MARSOC will eventually sink Force Recon.
This lesson is even taught in a grocery store job lol. A worker told me to work smarter and not harder, but in my head I thought why not work harder AND smarter 👍
SWIFT SILENT AND DEADLY MARINES THERE , from a old marine cpl. here active 93' to 97' , ooohrah n semper fi marines n vets n all military , thank you > tom !
Great video keep up the reputation we have all earned through sweat, blood and commitment to each other! Semper Fi brothers! The fewer the prouder (0321) ‘73...’81
I wanna sign a recon contract but I also want to do college in the corps, and I know I won’t have time for college so I think I’ll have to sign an infantry contract :/
2 different jobs 2 different types of requirements, you shouldn't ask "what's harder" just find which one is a calling to you and go do it if you fail meh, at least you got some expert level training.
Recon is more physically demanding but if you make it through the rigorous fiveish month long course then you’re guaranteed a spot, whereas Marsoc is not as physically demanding but it’s possible to make it all the way through the course and not be selected at the end.
Well, I’ve heard dudes say the swim tests for Recon is harder than MARSOC, and for MARSOC, you can prepare for it while you’re in the fleet (hint hint MARSOC’s own 10 week training guide, Nick Koumalatsos’ MARSOC Prep, Stew Smith’s Recon/ MARSOC Prep, Mountain Tactical Institute’s MARSOC Prep). If you fail Recon right out of ITB, you will be a POG, whether you volunteer for it at ITB or sign up with a Recon Contract. I am not sure what happens if you fail Recon after doing a Lateral Move. If you fail MARSOC, you just go back to your old job in the Fleet. Recon you have to go through after 4 months of Boot Camp and the first part of ITB respectively. Those 2 portions of your training don’t really get you in the best shape for Recon because you aren’t meant to train to be Recon, you’re meant to be a basically trained Marine. You also won’t have time to follow a Recon training guide in Boot Camp or Infantry Training Battalion. Reconnaissance Indoctrination Platoon, or RIP is gone, having been replaced with Basic Reconnaissance Preparatory Course (BRPC) to weed out those that probably wouldn’t pass Basic Reconnaissance Course (BRC). If you head over to Recon training at the end of ITB, and all the BRPC/ BRC classes are full (no room to train), you might get put in a holding platoon called “Marines Awaiting Recon Training”, aka MART. MART basically PT’s you all day and does some classes to make good use of your time before you get to BRPC. However, sometimes the classes are so full that you are stuck there for an indefinite amount of time. You could be there for 1 month, 6 months, or even 10 months. Try not to get disillusioned. Many people have said that BRPC was harder than BRC. BRPC is a month long. BRC is 2 months long. Nick Koumalatsos also has a Recon Prep book, as well as Stew Smith’s all in one book I mentioned earlier, Mountain Tactical Institute, and an actual 10 week Recon guide (hunt for it on google). BRPC/ BRC doesn’t really have a selection process. As long as you survive the training, you’re in. There are no rank requirements as you can go to Recon right after Boot Camp and ITB. You can also Lateral Move to Recon after you’ve been in the fleet for a while. I DON’T know if there are any extra requirements to go from Division Recon to Force Recon, so you might want to google that on your own. Recon has their own special fitness tests you must pass before you can get to BRPC, called the Reconnaissance Screener, AND the Reconnaissance Physical Assessment Test.As of now, MARSOC does not, you just do the regular USMC PFT’s and CFT’s and get hazed a lot. To go MARSOC, you must be in the fleet in any MOS for at least 3 years and you must meet certain rank requirements (they change all the time so google it). What if you meet all the requirements but you are the wrong rank? Furthermore, it takes 9 months to pass the Assessment and Selection Course, and the Individual Training Course. Like someone else above me said, if you make it to then end of these 2 courses, there is still a selection board where current experienced MARSOC Marines interview you, and get to decide whether they really want to accept and work with you based on your responses to their questions, and, your performance over the last 9 months. I know a guy that passed all the training and was a good team player, but they didn’t accept him at the board. Can you imagine going through the hardest training the Marine Corps has to offer, and then being denied and sent back to the job you were trying to get away from? Something to consider. MARSOC’s A&S and ITC have been rumored to be VERY professional though, whereas BRPC/ BRC is more of a haze fest. Both of them offer you more opportunities to go to Scout Sniper School than being a regular 03 Infantry Marine would though, and, MARSOC gets more funding to do more cool missions and use cool gear than Recon does. To be honest, I’ve heard many stories of Recon/ Force Recon AND MARSOC dudes leaving the Marine Corps to go Army Rangers/ Green Berets, or SEALs because they are treated better (more money, more cool missions, more respect). You have to keep in mind that the regular/ traditional/ conventional Marine Corps doesn’t like or know how to use these “special” Marines. They consider them cowboys and only care about them when it looks like the Marine Corps is about to lose a “Special” mission to another branch. That’s the most attention these jealous, hater higher ups will pay attention to Recondos and Raiders. MARSOC Special Operations Officers didn’t even have a career path until recently! Both communities have less bullshit than the fleet though, but you’re underutilized compared to other branches. Keep in mind that the Army and Navy don’t have this problem. I’d recommend the Rangers (8 weeks of RASP after US Army OSUT and you’re in, Ranger School, more funding to get cool gear, missions, and training, you’re more well known and respected in your branch, you can transition to Green Berets, Delta, or Ranger Reconnaissance Company instead of just MARSOC, and you focus on actually killing people, NOT mainly Special Reconnaissance (Recon/ Force Recon), or mainly sharing Foreign Internal Defense (MARSOC)). Hope this helps
Some SEALs are idiots, some recon marines are also idiots, some are badasses, some have terrible reputations. Recon marines go on MEUs for the most part. SEALs go train foreigners and occasionally recon will go train foreigners also, recon marines are trained to fight til you die, SEALs are more about bounding away and breaking contact. Recon men are treated like shit and dgaf about hardship, SEALs are pampered unless they are actively training or working. Join and become both then you will know.
I'm a Marine and this new Marine Pfc from gallup nm was new 0311 just disrespecting every one on leave..just obnoxious to family and friends. He proclaimed he was going to be Recon, he never made it..now he keeps his head down infront of the people he disrespected, which included a Marine who served in Vietnam and 2 other Marines whom served in the 90's and all 3 are NCO'S.
Faulkner-- fawskner-- not fast, in Swedish. Might be, a COVID deserter. Why did, black shirt-- get used as, Navy blue? Deserter! WHAT TEAM? No teams, in Marines! Sports-- check--chesk-- chest got kicked, in Swedish.
Ranger school is a few weeks, being a recon marine takes like 9 months. There's a reason why there are an infinite supply of rangers, but not recon, js.
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USMC General Mullen like your comments.
Looking back, this is seriously one of the greatest regrets I have. I was a line grunt from '05 to '09 and if you served in that period you know how crazy the deployment cycles were. So actual true opportunities to try for Recon did not come often (bout once a year) and when they did, they had very small time frame windows. Usually just a coupla days to sign up. And I never jumped on them.
I play the what if game with that all the time. I don't know if I would have made it, but I never even gave myself a chance to least try and that kills me to this day.
eliminshrintar dude that blows. With all the work you were doing you probably didn’t have too much time to do a prep program for Recon to increase your chances of making it unless you wanted to be tired all the time and have no social life. For what it’s worth, I fucked up when I joined and accepted a pog contract when I wanted to be a grunt, so I always regret not fighting for an 03 contract. Maybe you can try to get back in?
We did something special, 99.5% of the American population never serves. It’s ok to feel a little regret about opportunities but in the end you can still look back with the utmost of pride!
I feel you bro my first enlistment I did 2 MEU's back to back (9/11). We didn't have time to sit down with our senior SNCO's and talk B Billets and career paths. Recon never appealed to me until I had a Sgt Major Vasquez dude was an animal. He did triathlons for PT! By that time I was a senior Sgt. On my way out. I wanted to be in Security Forces and eventually be on a F.A.S.T. Co. But it is what it is. Marines going I now have a world of information there is no reason to not achieve any goals in the military today.
The eyes and ears Force Recon marines perfect weapons for silent wars semper fi
Dion Thomas semper fucking fi
I will say this...as far as recruiting for Recon goes, they will never be short of people wanting this kind of badass job. However, I really think the Corps is lacking when it comes to physically preparing people for BRPC while they are in Boot Camp and ITB. Instead of properly stretching, exercising (good form, etc.), and avoiding overuse injuries by making time to recover, we just push recruits and Marines through half ass, random ass pt sessions and hikes that may injure you. Incentive Training is not a sufficient way to prepare you for BRPC. I think we can look at revising our physical training regimen and philosophy in boot camp and ITB, preferably to PT more and with harder workouts while promoting recovery time and decreasing overuse injuries.
I genuinely wanted to do this so badly. I wish I went and tried when they came to ITB. I don’t regret joining I regret not doing more while I was in.
ROK Force Recon marine here...I have nothing but the highest respect for US Force Recon! Trained with them during Cobra Gold 2018 and KMEP. Good times. I thought our MREs tasted bad- yours taste like canned shit.
That's why marines are so aggressive 🤣👍
@@TacticoolVIKINGBeard *laughs in DD214*
@@Jack.Krauser.re4 😆
Holy shit dude I worked with ROK Marines back in 2015 on Ulchi Freedom Guardian on Camp Courtney, Okinawa. I even had the fortune to go to Osan and take some liberty in Seoul. Mad respect to you guys! Semper Fi! Proud to be able to share the title of Marine with you guys!
@@cm-pr2ys always victorious brother. You will always be welcome by our fire. Also, I will trade you my ROK curry mre for dogshit w/ sauce. Im presuming you trained with our 2nd div if it was near seoul.
That’s a great responsibility for every one, you are perfect Marine, love you, Thanks for your beautiful service and sacrifice, God Bless you all
Recondos ⚓️🇺🇸 doing everything your favorite SoF unit does with half the budget.
But without actual deployments
@@parusol235 oof
My heart
@@parusol235 they don't deploy?
@@thegreatdogzilla5855 they deploy a lot Such as Somalia for Hunting pirates VBSS and Middle East
Well said, smart+tough is not quite common, but critically important.
Some of the most badass humans for sure
I’m 17 and I recently enlisted into the delayed entry program I go to meps in about a week. I want to be in the 03 field preferably an 0313 or 0311 but in the future I want to be recon more than anything. 👍🏼
Try omthing else man its up to ypu though its not what you think.
Just got out. Either get it right off the back or try a different branch and mos. I’ve worked with too many guys who “wanted to join recon” but always fell short on joining due to unforeseen circumstances or their unit just didn’t let them/timing. Don’t settle. Save yourself the time and energy into something you really want to do 100% and for a good cause.
Trill Ayden Believe the first reply and disregard the others, it was spelt and worded out by a true Marine
Trill Ayden US Marine here. If you’re physically capable of it you can sign a recon contract. The only thing is, if you fail it’s basically open contract and they’ll put you wherever they need a marine.
Bryan Hernandez Thank you for the advice I’ve been told similar things I think I might go army because I want to be airborne and be able to go to schools to better myself
I've noticed how today's Reconnaissance depend on high tech. Which I think is fine... don't get me wrong. Anything to get the advantage. But I hope we're not forgetting basics. Moving at night WITHOUT the use of GPS or compass. Communicating long distances WITHOUT the use of radios. Finding and purifying water WHEN you run out of halezone tablets.
After a hairy encounter with the enemy, you can lose gear or discover your equipment doesn't work anymore. In either case, I pray we're not forgetting to teach our recon Marines "low-tech" or primitive skills for high tech problems.
Peter Gallegos that’s always a thing in training. They practice high intensity for the worst situation
They literally do that when starting off
Speaking from experience here: there was a definitive shift in the mid 1980’s with Force Recon from long range Reconnaissance missions to Direct Action. Woodcraft, patrolling skills and stealth took a hit. Technology and MARSOC will eventually sink Force Recon.
First rule of RECON: Look good 😎
Couldn't have said it better myself. This guys words are better than mine
This lesson is even taught in a grocery store job lol. A worker told me to work smarter and not harder, but in my head I thought why not work harder AND smarter 👍
SWIFT SILENT AND DEADLY MARINES THERE , from a old marine cpl. here active 93' to 97' , ooohrah n semper fi marines n vets n all military , thank you > tom !
From Pendleton to Lejune to Hansen man I miss it.
Agreed brother...0321: 73...81
Great video keep up the reputation we have all earned through sweat, blood and commitment to each other!
Semper Fi brothers!
The fewer the prouder (0321) ‘73...’81
At 0:44 I see a guy with glasses can you do recon with glasses?
Yes also alot of 🏊
Dude I was watching the teenie weenie beanie video and I was like…how funny would it be if recon remade the video with y’all’s black beanies 😂
And you’ll have 5 Okinawa deployments in your 4 year service even when shit hits the fan
Camp Hansen is the shit lol.
This is why we should bring back the Paramarines
@@cm-pr2ys the budget won't allow it.
Thank you...! 🦅🇺🇸🏁
I wanna sign a recon contract but I also want to do college in the corps, and I know I won’t have time for college so I think I’ll have to sign an infantry contract :/
It's hard to be tough and smart?!?.... Where do they get these guys to do interviews??
That is the face of someone who has had one too many secured libos
😂
LOL
Does anybody know if it's harder to become recon or marsoc?
2 different jobs 2 different types of requirements, you shouldn't ask "what's harder" just find which one is a calling to you and go do it if you fail meh, at least you got some expert level training.
Recon is more physically demanding but if you make it through the rigorous fiveish month long course then you’re guaranteed a spot, whereas Marsoc is not as physically demanding but it’s possible to make it all the way through the course and not be selected at the end.
Nick Koumalatsos on RUclips has a video on Recon vs Raider. He was both. Search for it on RUclips.
Well, I’ve heard dudes say the swim tests for Recon is harder than MARSOC, and for MARSOC, you can prepare for it while you’re in the fleet (hint hint MARSOC’s own 10 week training guide, Nick Koumalatsos’ MARSOC Prep, Stew Smith’s Recon/ MARSOC Prep, Mountain Tactical Institute’s MARSOC Prep). If you fail Recon right out of ITB, you will be a POG, whether you volunteer for it at ITB or sign up with a Recon Contract. I am not sure what happens if you fail Recon after doing a Lateral Move. If you fail MARSOC, you just go back to your old job in the Fleet. Recon you have to go through after 4 months of Boot Camp and the first part of ITB respectively. Those 2 portions of your training don’t really get you in the best shape for Recon because you aren’t meant to train to be Recon, you’re meant to be a basically trained Marine. You also won’t have time to follow a Recon training guide in Boot Camp or Infantry Training Battalion. Reconnaissance Indoctrination Platoon, or RIP is gone, having been replaced with Basic Reconnaissance Preparatory Course (BRPC) to weed out those that probably wouldn’t pass Basic Reconnaissance Course (BRC). If you head over to Recon training at the end of ITB, and all the BRPC/ BRC classes are full (no room to train), you might get put in a holding platoon called “Marines Awaiting Recon Training”, aka MART. MART basically PT’s you all day and does some classes to make good use of your time before you get to BRPC. However, sometimes the classes are so full that you are stuck there for an indefinite amount of time. You could be there for 1 month, 6 months, or even 10 months. Try not to get disillusioned. Many people have said that BRPC was harder than BRC. BRPC is a month long. BRC is 2 months long. Nick Koumalatsos also has a Recon Prep book, as well as Stew Smith’s all in one book I mentioned earlier, Mountain Tactical Institute, and an actual 10 week Recon guide (hunt for it on google). BRPC/ BRC doesn’t really have a selection process. As long as you survive the training, you’re in. There are no rank requirements as you can go to Recon right after Boot Camp and ITB. You can also Lateral Move to Recon after you’ve been in the fleet for a while. I DON’T know if there are any extra requirements to go from Division Recon to Force Recon, so you might want to google that on your own. Recon has their own special fitness tests you must pass before you can get to BRPC, called the Reconnaissance Screener, AND the Reconnaissance Physical Assessment Test.As of now, MARSOC does not, you just do the regular USMC PFT’s and CFT’s and get hazed a lot.
To go MARSOC, you must be in the fleet in any MOS for at least 3 years and you must meet certain rank requirements (they change all the time so google it). What if you meet all the requirements but you are the wrong rank? Furthermore, it takes 9 months to pass the Assessment and Selection Course, and the Individual Training Course. Like someone else above me said, if you make it to then end of these 2 courses, there is still a selection board where current experienced MARSOC Marines interview you, and get to decide whether they really want to accept and work with you based on your responses to their questions, and, your performance over the last 9 months. I know a guy that passed all the training and was a good team player, but they didn’t accept him at the board. Can you imagine going through the hardest training the Marine Corps has to offer, and then being denied and sent back to the job you were trying to get away from? Something to consider. MARSOC’s A&S and ITC have been rumored to be VERY professional though, whereas BRPC/ BRC is more of a haze fest. Both of them offer you more opportunities to go to Scout Sniper School than being a regular 03 Infantry Marine would though, and, MARSOC gets more funding to do more cool missions and use cool gear than Recon does. To be honest, I’ve heard many stories of Recon/ Force Recon AND MARSOC dudes leaving the Marine Corps to go Army Rangers/ Green Berets, or SEALs because they are treated better (more money, more cool missions, more respect). You have to keep in mind that the regular/ traditional/ conventional Marine Corps doesn’t like or know how to use these “special” Marines. They consider them cowboys and only care about them when it looks like the Marine Corps is about to lose a “Special” mission to another branch. That’s the most attention these jealous, hater higher ups will pay attention to Recondos and Raiders. MARSOC Special Operations Officers didn’t even have a career path until recently! Both communities have less bullshit than the fleet though, but you’re underutilized compared to other branches. Keep in mind that the Army and Navy don’t have this problem. I’d recommend the Rangers (8 weeks of RASP after US Army OSUT and you’re in, Ranger School, more funding to get cool gear, missions, and training, you’re more well known and respected in your branch, you can transition to Green Berets, Delta, or Ranger Reconnaissance Company instead of just MARSOC, and you focus on actually killing people, NOT mainly Special Reconnaissance (Recon/ Force Recon), or mainly sharing Foreign Internal Defense (MARSOC)). Hope this helps
@@cm-pr2ys fuck me thats a lot of shit
this further confirms that pineapple belongs on pizza
Anxiety how doyou fix it
Oorah, gents. Semper fi.
Who more badass Recon Marines or Navy SEALs?
H U H ?
Some SEALs are idiots, some recon marines are also idiots, some are badasses, some have terrible reputations. Recon marines go on MEUs for the most part. SEALs go train foreigners and occasionally recon will go train foreigners also, recon marines are trained to fight til you die, SEALs are more about bounding away and breaking contact. Recon men are treated like shit and dgaf about hardship, SEALs are pampered unless they are actively training or working. Join and become both then you will know.
A SSgt as a Assistant TL???
What are you questioning
😉👍
0:45 sunglasses on his head 🤔 Someone up top won’t like it! Standby to hear a lesson on that one 🤣
Chuck Henry you’d be surprised hahah
Recon is nothing but garrison and having to apply garrison even when doing a HALO at night. Dont let these usmc vids fool you. Been there, done that.
Tango mike
I'm a Marine and this new Marine Pfc from gallup nm was new 0311 just disrespecting every one on leave..just obnoxious to family and friends. He proclaimed he was going to be Recon, he never made it..now he keeps his head down infront of the people he disrespected, which included a Marine who served in Vietnam and 2 other Marines whom served in the 90's and all 3 are NCO'S.
Aco 2nd Recon Bn 79-86 Onslow beach semper fi
0:40
⚔️🇺🇸⚔️
Bingo
Semper fi...
0321: 73...81
If anyone sees this, go to a socom unit. Or you will just get a whole lot of war on garrison in recon.
Not anymore since it's Marsoc now.
This is why the Corps should bring back the Paramarines and use them in a manner similar to the Rangers
@@cm-pr2ys they can't afford it.
🌹👈🏽
Don’t forget to use moleskin and change your socks
Faulkner-- fawskner-- not fast, in Swedish. Might be, a COVID deserter. Why did, black shirt-- get used as, Navy blue? Deserter! WHAT TEAM? No teams, in Marines! Sports-- check--chesk-- chest got kicked,
in Swedish.
So ranger school....but...for marines
Not even close.
Ranger school is a few weeks, being a recon marine takes like 9 months. There's a reason why there are an infinite supply of rangers, but not recon, js.
These guys learned from the 82nd Airborne, hooah!..Panther Recon
Wannabe recon