Why I Install the Fluidmaster Better Than Wax Toilet Seal Over a Standard Wax Toilet Seal
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- Опубликовано: 23 апр 2023
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It's time to give up my secret about these non wax rings. When they first came out, I tried them and hated them. Over the years I have figured out how to make them work, EVERY TIME!
My secret is not in the instructions on the box.
Enjoy the video! 
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I’ve been rocking on my toilet trying to figure this seal out. This is just what I was looking for. Thank you
So glad you did this video. Per the instructions: Use gasket as is if flange is flush with the floor. Not even close! Had to cut off 2/3 of the gasket to get the toilet to even approach touching the floor.
I spent years fighting this.... until I came up with this idea a year or two ago. SO common sense, so I decided to share it. LOL. Glad it was able to help you out.
I have used this seal for both of my toilets and it’s been solid for 7 years now.
Thank u for the great info👍
Thanks for this video! I just did this. My flange was flush to the floor. Even after cutting the spacer in half the toilet still wouldn't sit on the floor. It might have worked but I didn't want to crack my flange - -that spacer is just too stiff. I ended up stacking two seals. Cheers!
If your flange is flush with the floor1Fluidmaster should suffice. That is how it How the fluid master is designed.
Nice! Heard that you can also use 2 flexible ones (blue) without the extender (gray/black) for the situation. That will double the cost compared to your solution but without the trouble of cutting the extender.
You can really use any cutter, even a box blade would work. I would not spend double on it.
@@TodayIWorkOnive always skip the extra foam if the flange is even with the floor , even though they advise you to use it.
I have this problem right now...i guess i need to cut the extension foam.....damnit.
thank you.
The Fernco waxless toilet seals are the best option IMO. You know without a doubt that you are sealed to the toilet and you will never have a leak. I have run into two situations where the didn't work though, one where the drain immediately curved (where this wouldn't work either) and another where I had ot install an inch extender and that made the inner diameter too narrow. Has worked amazingly in every other install.
I’ll take a look into that.
I’ve been installing these for over 7 years with zero failure rate. If the flange is not properly set and off kilter I can see this rubber ring being an issue.
I had the same issue yesterday when I installed out new toilet. I just didn't use the spacer and see how it goes. I don't ever seal the toilet with caulk so I should be abler to see if there is water leaking - so far - so good. I kept the spacer so if I need it - I have it and will attempt to cut in something that resembles a straight line.. :P
Yup. Hope you have a good seal, if not you know what to do. 😬
you may notice some smell, in my case that why i get ... so thinking to double it with blue
Acidity in our urine causes synthetic or rubber to deteriorate slowly,
pick a ring that still has wax enclosed by manufactured products.
The beauty of life, we can choose what we like! Enjoy your wax!
where did you put the wax ring under the rubber one?
Seems like if you use the rubber you don’t use wax at all
This is the same idea i had but i tried it with out the spacer and it ses to work no leaks should i take it off and cut the spacer down and do it again?
If the rubber hits the toilet and you have no leaks, you should be fine.
@TodayIWorkOn yeah so far so good no leaking so I I'm thinking it's good but kept the spacer just incase
@@jasonhorn5976 any updates, I just did the same thing after getting a leak with the spacer.
@wilsua o issues and it's been about 2 weeks
@@jasonhorn5976 Thanks for the reply, seems like the spacer isn't needed for flush mounted flanges. So far so good gonna test for a few more days before caulking.
Can't you simply screw it down hard enough so it compresses and the toilet is flat? Wouldn't that ensure a very tight seal?
I don't have experience with this, it's an honest question
Nope. What usually happens is you pull the flange and bend it. The foam is so dense the small bolts do not have the strength to pull the toilet down. You can even sit on the toilet with a flange higher than it should be and the toilet will rock like a seesaw. You can also use a utility blade to cut the excess foam material if you don’t have a grinder. Makes sure you use a sharp blade and be careful you don’t cut your fingers.
i used it like that without cutting it, crossing my fingers hopefully it don't leak
The rubber needs to hit the bottom of the toilet or it will leak. There needs to be some sort of compression going on to eliminate a leak. Good luck with it!
yea my toilet dont like my new bidet when i twerk on the seat 😅🤣 shes leaking now got damn i need to slow down a bit
Obviously it does, but I don't understand how this can seal out the water when flushing. I understand that a toilet flushing is not high pressure, but still, I don't get it 🤔
its rubber, which naturally is something that seals. Think about washers all over the world that are compressed a little bit. This is the same theory, where the foam acts as the driving force up on to the toilet ring and creates a seal. The only way the seal can break is a breakdown on the foam, but I'm assuming that's not going to fail since it was engineered for a toilet.
I thought these came with a couple different thicknesses of foam to use
Nope, just one.
@@TodayIWorkOn the one i bought came with a thick one and a thin one and you could stack them if needed
@@joshsoorlin579correct. But, a lot of times, like this example, adding the extra seal made the toilet too high and the toilet will rock off the seal. Once you experience it, you will understand this video.
Instead of cutting the riser like you did, just use two of the blue seals and you're done.
I’m not sure it would be high enough and it would mean buying 2 packages, while one would suffice. That’s why they have the extender ring in the box.
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$20.00 for two packs is a lot faster and less money than buying the cutter you had to use. Plus the two blue seals fit perfectly. I had the same problem, and using two worked great.
@@truthseekerKJValways more than one solution to a problem!
Ps- you can never have enough tools. 😬.
@@truthseekerKJV if you don’t own an angle grinder, then cut it with a knife. $10 more is not easier, you had to work 30 minutes to an hour to earn that in your paycheck. And it takes one minute to cut.
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I would only ever use that if the floor was concrete underneath.
I’m interested to know… why? The flange contacts the toilet flange and has nothing to do with the concrete.
@TodayIWorkOn I've used these before and have not had success, especially in older homes where the wooden floor was out of level. At least when it starts to leak, it will be on concrete and not cause too much damage.
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I think I missed it, what i2 the ideal height above the finished floor?
Code says flange sits on top of finished floor, which means the blue part of the no wax ring will work perfectly. The issue is, in a lot of cases, it’s way lower. That’s why we have the added black extension piece.
I would have just used a sharp utility knife to cut that. And probably just wax... for the seal... So you dont have to cut stuff. And stuff.
You almost cut your fingers off man
Not many people picked up how dangerous it was the way he cut the spacer. Obviously not a professional and I hope he doesnt get people hurt and cause more leaking toilets !
He meant well. But I agree... super dangerous and there are obviously people out there that would try that. I've been a plumber for a long time and never used that product. And now that I've watched this... I never will.
I like no cutting , I stopped the video at 2:59. ..at least for now because once again they can't tell me which is better a wax ring or a rubber seal??????????????
What’s better? That’s a debate with no answer really. It’s what people prefer.
Don't use Fluidmaster's "Better Than Wax" product. That was my choice as well for a toilet that began to leak at the floor. Three years or so after installing this product, it began to leak again. When I removed the toilet, I discovered that the plastic that this product is made of had hardened and deteriorated, allowing the leak. Many types of plastic deteriorate over time. I sensibly assumed that Fluidmaster would have used a plastic that would endure. They don't; the product is garbage.
Been installing them for over 6 years and I’ve never had a failure. If I were you I would contact Fluidmaster and send it back to them to investigate to see what exactly happened to the rubber.
Please never do what this guy is doing... Extremely dangerous holding the grinder so close to bare hands. No face shield being used... not to mention the obvious that you are altering a product, which totally voids any type of warranty you have for it not working. The neoprene is meant to compress down. You didnt need to cut it...
Sound advice.
I couldn't believe how close his hand was what a knucklehead
@@annhopkin5079 it's amazing how a knucklehead like me can still have 10 fingers after being in the trade for 26 years! Pure luck some would say.
@@TodayIWorkOn oh sorry!!! Mr knucklehead. But the video is for novices also, and it was super crazy dangerous! I'm glad you still have 11 knuckles!!!😉
Doing the same thing. The spacer didn’t compress either. Time for the angle grinder to adjust that thing down.
OR just use a wax ring
Nah. Radiant too close to the wax ring. No bueno. 😘
not near as easy
FREE TIP COURTESY OF FILM SCHOOL: Next time use a ladder and a clamp ( improvise with a bungee cord) Your lighting source should be above YOU. Unless you do that an "EVIL" shadow is cast upon your face! Since this is an instructional video AND NOT a horror flick it does matter.
LOL. Low budget filming, I gotta improvise. Once I get to Mr.Beast numbers I'll get a crew to help.
I hope people DONT take his advise. 99.99 % of toilets have wax seals and never have a problem. If you have a problem with a wax seal its he installation not the wax seal. Cutting the extender as he did was a bad idea and cutting it with a grinder aimed at his hand shows his lack of knowledge ! I do this for a living and am speaking from experience !
Please tell me how much experience do you have with this particular rubber ring. I’m interested to know. The issue with this system is the toilet usually floats off the floor because the rubber can’t compress as much as it should, like in this instance.
Wax rings don’t work well with radiant heat, which is what I have here in this floor. Since I like to make sure my clients have toasty feet, I do not use wax for the simple reason. You need to be 12+ inches away from the ring with your heating element. Lastly, if you are aware rubber is not going to destroy a metal cut off blade 🤣. Are you sure you do this for a living?