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Indian here who supports Ukraine and is from militarybackground. Here are few points to consider: 1. 1971 Bangladesh liberation war. - USA stood with Pakistan and sent itsTask Force 74 out of it's 7th fleet to attack India, USSR came to our rescue. 2. When USA did not support india in it's nuclear tests after China tested its nuclear bomb and put sanctions, ussr helped us. 3. US killed our beloved rocket scientists and tried to undermine our rocket and space program. - USSR assisted us with their technology. 4. USA continues to give funds and arms/ ammunition to pakistan which gets rerouted to terrorists against india and taliban against USA itself. 5. Depending on USA only have damaged countries like vietnam, Afghanistan, etc. - Whenever USA is in a tough spot, it scoots and leaves its allies on their own. - unreliable like Russia. 6. Russia always helps us in UNSC with its veto. 7. We don't want Russia and China to team up against India. - already pakistan and china are teamed up against india.. - it will be us who will face the brunt, not the USA which is across an ocean. 8. USA woke newspapers always emanates anti india propaganda and calls anti nationalists to pen their editorials. Example: New York Times. - Calls our govt Hindu nationalist but doesn't calls its own government Christian nationalist in a country where to take oath on the Bible. - In india we take oath on our constitution. 9. Last special point, Europe continues to buy gas from Russia. - What india buys in a month, Europe buys I an afternoon in monetary terms. - Why target india then? .. Anyways, Slava ukraini. Jai hind 🇮🇳
India's only major external military concern is a two front conflict against China and Pakistan. This important part of its geopolitical calculation is something you should have covered.
Indian here who supports Ukraine and is from militarybackground. Here are few points to consider: 1. 1971 Bangladesh liberation war. - USA stood with Pakistan and sent itsTask Force 74 out of it's 7th fleet to attack India, USSR came to our rescue. 2. When USA did not support india in it's nuclear tests after China tested its nuclear bomb and put sanctions, ussr helped us. 3. US killed our beloved rocket scientists and tried to undermine our rocket and space program. - USSR assisted us with their technology. 4. USA continues to give funds and arms/ ammunition to pakistan which gets rerouted to terrorists against india and taliban against USA itself. 5. Depending on USA only have damaged countries like vietnam, Afghanistan, etc. - Whenever USA is in a tough spot, it scoots and leaves its allies on their own. - Not reliable like Russia. 6. Russia always helps us in UNSC with its veto. 7. We don't want Russia and China to team up against India. - already pakistan and china are teamed up against india.. - it will be us who will face the brunt, not the USA which is across an ocean. 8. USA woke newspapers always emanates anti india propaganda and calls anti nationalists to pen their editorials. Example: New York Times. - Calls our govt Hindu nationalist but doesn't calls its own government Christian nationalist in a country where to take oath on the Bible. - In india we take oath on our constitution. 9. Last special point, Europe continues to buy gas from Russia. - What india buys in a month, Europe buys I an afternoon in monetary terms. - Why target india then? .. Anyway, Slava ukraini. Jai hind 🇮🇳
@@abhisekhkumar4948 Jai hind, brother. Canadian Indiaphile here and I am familiar with all you have said. India had the courage to be non-aligned and stay non-aligned and good for them. Stay strong and keep India free!
You cant have a conversation about the relationship between Russia and India without mentioning Pakistan. India felt marginalised by the West's historic support of Pakistan.
I agree, that level of thought will continue to keep that a negative reality. I don’t think many Worcester folks really do understand the folks and leader ship of that region, but they do seem distinct enough to be their own kind of into Asian union like the EU Our differences in culture should open minds and be appreciated, not spark conflict and “them vs us” binary thought. Most good things in my life were never planned nor considered never imagined.
This is still happening as of today Pakistani will get green card in 2-3 years in usa but Indian they take 22-23years to issue green card.. don’t believe me just verify..
Well Pakistan has run off the leash and is firmly in the Chinese camp. After seeing what the Pakistanis did to the US during the American Afghanistan war, don't think Lahore is very welcome anymore in Washington.
Non-sense, that is because they were aligned at that time. political and military alliances do not have emotions. Thank goodness, you are not in government
@@namewithheldforprivacy7107 Never forget what? You have no idea dude. Russia was willing to throw India under the Bus when it comes to China. Who do you think helped with China war?
It's worth noting that the historical reliance India has on Russia for arms is because the US would not sell India the arms they wanted, until recently. Pakistan was getting them! You can't really talk about India and geopolitics without mentioning Pakistan. They were one united country up until recently and have had on off shooting matches ever since.
Details here: India had a good military partnership with the US and UK till 1960. The proof is a joint operations with CIA in China. A plutonium device (due to unlimited energy) was planned to be put in the Himalayas to monitor China which is still missing to this date. Then Nixon happened. Nixon hated the Indians and started supplying Pakistan against India and the Chinese against the Soviets. So the Soviets started cozying to india to have multiple fronts for China. Remember, the Soviets and CIA killed a sitting prime minister of India because he wanted to have an independent foreign policy. The Soviets started giving jets and tanks to India to power up their military. There were so many Communist in India that they took over all of the institutes and started doing communist crap. The relationship continued till 1991.
How many times Russia invade India? Honestly, i cant get it. Why two country working together is like something new? Canada is ok dealing with USA, no one talking about it. Imagine there is no China or Pakistan. You think India gonna be like "there is a big country here with a lot of stuff, but i gonna pretend that it dosnt exist, cause i am not USA, i cant into foreign relationship!" Really?
It's hard not to be suspicious of the US as an Indian when we remember that it was the Americans who sent an aircraft carrier to intimidate India back when we were fighting a defensive war against Pakistan, and it was the Soviets who sent a nuclear submarine to warn the Americans off
Man! I'm an Indian and I must say. Most of the content creators discussing India make it look like a third world country by insulting it, while trying to look funny themselves. You, sir, are the only one who has richness in his content, a great sense of humour, and due respect for other ethnic identities. Sir, i salute you.
@@deb9548 Sir hm toh aapko bhi sir bula le, usme kya dikkat h. Aap shyad samajh nhi sake ki ye bas ek bolne ka tareeka h, naa ki kisi ko pedestal pe chadha dene ki aadat. Aapki baat galat nahi h, Indians ka colonial mindset gadbad h, par thankfully ab dheere dheere kam ho rha h.
No one will ever take Indian seriously when it supports totalitarian dictatorships who are attacking its other allies, while claiming to be the world's biggest democracy. Act like a third world country, then you will get treated like a third world country.
In my opinion, by not helping the west; India doesn't want to push russia into China's side completely which is India's archrival. For Indian perspective, Donald Trump is much better option who consider china bigger problem then russia which is in favour of Indian foreign policy.
Usa has economic interests in china they still investing in china ... Western Hypocrisy is simples destroy one communist and made other one rich ... West and usa doesnt care if you are communist dictators or anything as long as you are pro usa everything is fine ...
The war has made Russia 100% dependant on the China and the CCP. Meaning, China will leverage this against India. Its important to understand this as an Indian
You should've included the 1971 Bangladesh Liberation war with Pakistan when US openly supported Pakistan and came to strike India.. when USSR submarines came for rescue..
@@redeyexxx1841 yaa you are right, and we are very thankful to Leonid Brezhnev but even he born in today's Ukrainian but he serves for USSR and died in USSR also and after 1992 when Ukrainian came in existence, there behaviour towards India is not so positive , and Russian always supports India without care about western pressure
One of the main reason for India to align a little more towards the Russians rather than the US is because during the 1971 India-Pak war, US & the western world alliance supported Pakistan and even sent the US fleet to support Pakistan. At that crucial moment it was the Russians who sent their nuclear subs to protect India from an attack/intimidation tactics of the west. Hence India always saw Russia as an allay rather than keeping a neutral stance towards Russia.
Whilst factually correct, you seem to miss or avoid the point that it probably more likely that the Soviets didn't do this because they are India's bestie, they did it to spit in the eye of USA. It was a strategy of cold war one upmanship. When China start making their move to consolidate their hegemony in Asia, do not for one minute think that ruZZia will be rushing to India's aid, because by that time ruZZia will already be neutered & in China's pocket.
Fair enough. India is a friend of russia. Meaning India should be considered an enemy of the US and vice versa. What happened in 1971 should definitely set the stage for relationships in the future.
Understandable that India would be well disposed to Russia after such support, but assistance in the past should not become a green light to tolerate colonial aspirations.
if i remember correctly, Russia provided India with cryogenic rocket technology in the 1990s, specifically in 1994, when the two countries signed a deal for the transfer of technology and the supply of cryogenic rocket engines. At that time, other countries, including the United States, had refused to provide India with the technology due to non-proliferation concerns. there are times when other nations deny or refused to help india , russia always there for India, but i don't think it is good to support russia blindly cause they helped us in the past... sometimes you need to think
Loved How you avoided the 1971 war of Liberation of Bangaladesh. The U.S dispatched it's 7th Fleet to strike India and defend the Military ruled State Pakistan along with U.K which dispatched its navy. It was USSR which defended India by deploying it's own nuclear submarines.
You have forgotten why the US was an ally of Pakistan in the first place, during the USSR's takeover of Eastern Europe and it's many crimes against innocent Russians, India always supported the Soviets. I understood this to be due to their colonial relationship with the UK and their desire for payback against the West. The UK and USSR were both colonial powers that abused many people, and neither countries should be allies of India. When India complains about the UK, their critics will call them hypocrites for supporting the many crimes of the USSR.
@@bretedwards2899you really know nothing and don’t understand how complex situations India has been through Your ignorance doesn’t surprises me,bcoz in west you are not taught about our past
@@Being-kind1997 You are incorrect as I have studied world history for many years and i realize how different the various regions are within India. It's more like the united regions of india than a homogeneous country. The political history of india also highlights than for most of it's history, india has not been a unified country. I admire individual leaders such as Lord Krishna, Siddhartha Gautama, even Mohandas Gandhi as inspiration figures for all of mankind. I have also read a lot of the Bhagavad Gita and converse with Indian people who have moved to the US. I also understand that Democracy and human rights are recent additions to India's history and are not part of India's historical culture. Currently India faces military problems from Communist China as well as Pakistan and many various extreme Muslim organizations who hate Hindu culture. The religious differences between Muslims and Hindus as well as Sikhs, even Christians is also well known. i do not belong to any organized religion but I do understand what the term "Cosmic delusion" means and what unified consciousness represents. The disagreements that i have with Indian politics revolves around India selling out it's Hindu morals which are very good for a short term gain at the expense of innocent people. To support the crimes of the Soviet Union/Russia for many decades while knowing what they do to the Russian people and their neighbors is a disgrace, as it also is for the many other countries who act with such dishonor. Humanity rarely acts with honor as the human ego only considers power and domination as worthwhile goals. But you and i can at least not support such acts as we both know they help no one in the long run. Be true to your heart and do not focus only on physical goals as we are all mortal and do nor reside long on Earth.
India: the world's largest democracy. Pakistan: enjoys an on/off relationship with dictatorship, preferably military. Guess which one Kissinger and Nixon recognised as being in their club.
@@pedrosalvador6341the answer to that would be 'strategic autonomy', which plays out similar to what India is doing with Russia. As an Indian, I'd say what the U.S. did at their time was neither wrong nor right for them, and exactly what we are doing is neither wrong nor right for us. It's all based on Interests buddy
@@pedrosalvador6341 you know Nixon Kissinger Administration supported genocide of Bangladeshi PPL by Pakistan army ryt? 3 million people dead, 300,000 plus women raped and much more horrors
The USA likes military dictators as allies in 3rd world countries, much easier to manipulate and manage. Secondly Pakistani people have no choice to "enjoy on/off relationship with dictatorship" because everything happens here with order of military establishment and support of US. Honestly we would be much happier for US and India to become friends and play their great games against China while leaving us out of it.
i don't like history but When i read history i get "Don't Believe in USA 🇺🇸" 😂.... Thanks gov for thinking about our sake.....democracy is for the country people not for the USA 🇺🇸
At 12:20, you mentioned India is shifting from Russian T series tank to Western "Arjun Tank". Arjun is a homegrown Indian tank. Such readily available facts can't be mistaken or quoted wrongly,
@@markdsm-5157 Mr. would you like a taste of BrahMOS the fastest cruise missle in the world which can be launched from either land, sea or air? Or maybe the Agni 6 with 12000km range?
Yes. But - do you also see hundred thousand civilians killed in a sitcom? Do you see cities like 400 000 population Mariupol completely destroyed in sitcoms?
A great overall analysis! The 1971 war to liberate Bangladesh, which was not mentioned, did much to warm the relationship with Russia as the US sided with Pakistan, its arch enemy, and sent the 7th fleet to the Bay of Bengal. China's expansionism on its northern border has done much to build animosity towards the Chinese.
How is the great analysis, it doesn't even mention the support of the Americans in Pakistan! Russia supported India for many decades! Hence why India will never bend over to American and NATO pressure to isolate Russia! Chris didn't do his homework and should of got more Indian insight instead of his on views on the Asian region!
I think it would be important to mention the titanic shift in policy that took place after the 1962 Sino-Indian War and Indian defeat. From that point onward they grew much closer to the USSR because of the ongoing Sino-Soviet rivalry.
India had a good military partnership with the US and UK till 1960. The proof is a joint operations with CIA in China. A plutonium device (due to unlimited energy) was planned to be put in the Himalayas to monitor China which is still missing to this date. Then Nixon happened. Nixon hated the Indians and started supplying Pakistan against India and the Chinese against the Soviets. So the Soviets started cozying to india to have multiple fronts for China. Remember, the Soviets and CIA killed a sitting prime minister of India because he wanted to have an independent foreign policy. The Soviets started giving jets and tanks to India to power up their military. There were so many Communist in India that they took over all of the institutes and started doing communist crap. The relationship continued till 1991.
I think modern day India has come far away from the defeat of 1962, and most modern Indian youth despise Nehru and Gandhi today. This is a real fact. One big proof is that Congress, the main opponent party tries to associate Nathuram Godse, the man who killed Gandhi, with the RSS and BJP, the ruling dispensation. But still BJP wins election after election because no one cares. And there is a very popular notion that is on right now that Gandhi was quite possibly a British agent.
Yes, it was only 1962 War that our Leaders finally realized that Non !Alignment isn't going to save our Country from Military conquests. After the Sino Indian conflict we started buying a Ton of Arms and Ammunition from the USSR to keep ourselves Battle Ready in case of any Eventuality and it was the primary reason of our Military Victories later in that Decade
The main reason for being neutral in geo politics is that we don't become chess pawns to US or Russia. Also US and west doesn't see their allies to be their equal but beneath them only useful for economic monopoly and geo political power. There is no real intention other than this.
If the US had maintained their unbiased relationship with India during the India-Pakistan conflict (crisis), they(India) would've been way way much leaning towards and closer ties with the US today. Unfortunately they chose to side with Pakistan, and that's one of the stumbling block that affects the relationship between them even today.
They didn't chose to side with Pakistan Pakistan just bought some old US weapons. Pakistan was willing to pay. Pakistan also has Russian tanks and weapons, but i don't see you complaining.
@@RazorsharpLT how Pakistan can have f16 😅 plz explain as they time travel and get it from future... Gaazi asias biggest submarine?? Most advance tanks but we destroyed by simple soviet launcher and usa asked for a report from us about how it were destroyed .. Although they came in indian ocean 7th fleet largest with 50 to 70 warships 😅...
Indians still remember that in the 1971 war, which was Independent India's most important war, US stood with Pakistan by sending it's aircraft career fleet in Bay of Bengal. It was only after USSR sent its nuclear submarines that parity was restored. So while culturally Indians like America, American Foreign policy was and still trying to contain India.
Then you should also remember that the same US had sent aid to india upon jawarharlal nehru's request in the 1962 indo-china war after the ussr had shown a middle finger to india's face and openly sided with china , heck some american pilots even flew all the way to india to help with rescue operations., The same US had also imposed a total arms embargo on pak in 1966 for attacking india with us weapons which they ended up circumventing with the help if china and the ussr, and all the times the US have sanctioned pak leading all the way back to the cold war era, arguably the peak of their relationship. When was the last time russia even condemned let alone sanction china fot attacking india? I guess indians suffer from selective amnesia and outrage. Bunch of whining cry babies who keep badmouthing the west when your entire economy is reliant on the west and the US trade and investment
As an Indian, I must say that you did an amazing job by providing a holistic view of the foreign policy and the complex geopolitical relationship of India with the West, China and Russia. But one major event that you missed, which apparently made Indo-Soviet relationship more cohesive is the 1971 Bangladesh Liberation War which was fought between India along with the Mukti Bahinis (independence seeking revolutionaries of the then East Pakistan) and Pakistan, where India got a major military support from the Soviets against a dual threat of US and Pakistan.
Am African and I work with Indians. Most Europeans don't realise the Indian nature. They value honour. They are problem solving oriented. And have this natural ability of foresight. In simple you can't Dingle India as America does to Philippines
The US bombed the sh@* out of Japan and Germany during WWll and then went on the rebuild both these countries into global economic superpowers. India liberated Bangladesh but till today it continues to languish in poverty.
India has been growing as a market for western and in particular US aircraft. India has purchased C-17s, C-130s, Apache, Chinooks and MH-60R Seahawk and P-8 Poseidons.
I was reading somewhere how India and China combined will account for something like half of economic growth for 2023. personally, I feel like it should be a big priority to keep India on favorable terms with the west
It was a real shame that the C17 production line got killed just as India was about to order 10 more units. IMO India should have ordered atleast 40 C17s. What a beautiful beast.
It takes two hands to clap. When US proactively supports India’s arch enemy supplying them free military hardware ware which has use only against India. Where will India go for its own military equipment.
One of the reasons why India is so dependent on the Soviet Era defence equipment is that the West was comfortable making alliance and supplying state of the art equipment to a military dictatorship until recent times.
As do, and to a larger degree, ruZZia & China. So your point is? In fact it would be fair to say ruZZIa, China, USA in that order would have less morals & scruples in supplying weapons to undesirable elements hell bent on making life as miserable as possible for average man on the street!
We changed… you are not… it’s that simple… you may be afraid and apprehensive… fine… but as the saying goes… we the people of the west will not forget what India or China or Russia has done. Our newer generations are people you do not want to mess with buddy
Key point on the oil: India is buying deeply discounted crude, refining it, and selling it on. This in turn keeps the global prices at a reasonable level and prevents Russia from reaping the windfall of soaring oil prices. I think most Western analysts would call this a net positive: deny Russia its most profitable hydrocarbon exports without sending global prices through the roof.
That's something hard to understand to some apparently: India doesn't contemplate to be part of the Western, Russian or Chinese block, they inspire to be their own superpower (which is legitimate). I guess the misunderstanding comes from a major factor: all these blocks develloped by conflicting each other, militarily or economically, not India, they don't have this tradition of confrontation, they are a young country and basically had ever conflicts only with Pakistan and China: they see no interest in being in a "for...against..." position... which everyone else stance, they are playing their own side, not anyone else's one.
agree with you as an Indian. One more thing that I will add that India sees Western demands of condemning russia as part of what we call "colonial mindset". If India stays neutral and doesn't give in to the western demands it is seen as a victory of the ruling government and will have effect on the next election.
Indian civilization is almost 5000+ years old. Not only that unlike American, we are native and original inhabitants of the land that survive 900 years of invasion from Islamic and British people. Our ancestors seen too much conflict and it is India absolute last resort to be part of any block. India will stand on his own. We will work together with our friendly country to accelerate our growth but never be part of something like NATO
What about Pakistan? Is the US not allowed to deal with India without also dealing with Pakistan? Pakistan should already be happy with the debt trap it has gotten into with its best friend China😅 after all, was it the same Pakistan that rejoiced over what its leaders called the defeat of the US in Afghanistan?
@@skp8748 what is making Pakistan relevant nowadays are its nuclear weapons. Otherwise it's a paper tiger that can't even feed its own people or pay for other basic necessities. 😂 In the bigger scheme of things, Indian has grown way beyond its issues with Pakistan.
Abandoning Russia now would mean sending them, maybe permanently towards China, thereby making China stronger. Other reasons are India is denied certain cutting-edge technologies by the West, on the other hand, Russia has leased an SSBN to India and also offered to partner for the hypersonic missile program. Then there is the issue of the UNSC permanent seat and veto power.
Who said about India abandoning Russia? Yours is a typical guttural reaction from an Indian Russophile. India has gotten a long way from the days of Nehru when "non-aligned" India was actually in bed with Russia and as India's economy continues to grow and becomes more intertwined with the West, Russia will just quietly fade away into the back ground. Indian weapon systems will slowly and surely become a mix of srdp and locally assembled western systems like the Dassault Rafale or maybe eventually in the future US stealth aircraft as India needs to try to be at some parity with China.
@@siddhuji5868 This generalization is out of place. It would be wiser to specify which Russia, under whose leadership (saying that there is one Russia is only true to the extent of what we see on the map, so no there is no one Russia). Russia has not always been a criminal warm-mongering, criminal state it is today. So, yes, you may say "we Indians need Russia at this juncture of our history, it's politically justified", but justifying your inclination toward Russia by saying "Russia once helped us" sounds ludicrous. It's just like saying I am somehow morally obligated to help a grandson of a man who once helped my grandfather. Yet, it so happens that his grandson is a serial killer. No, no one is under any obligation to help him.
We Indians have carried our civilisational history of thousands of years with us. While we have always been contemporary. It is true that we have lost many times during this thousands of years of history. We have the pain of loosing, without bitterness. We are always contemporary, even today.
Thank Nixon and Kissinger for this one, when India tried to stop the genocide Pakistan was committing in now-Bangladesh, the US actually sent warships to ward off /India/ and support Pakistan, where the Soviets countered the US fleet with their own, cementing what were the "wrong" dancing partners for decades to come. Good thing things are now warming up with India-US relations.
Well, Nixon and Kissinger were huge problem for the western world, just like how Indira Gandhi the egomaniac was a problem for India. Why would emergency even need to be imposed on a democratic system? Talking about Soviet influence !!!, you get the idea.
This wasn't the only instance! US has been a supporter of Pakistan till 2000 . During 1999 Indo-Pak war US supported Pak military dictatorship over India in War. US only stopped after 9/11 after they found out that India isn't going to be the only victim of terrorism in Pakistan. US has very very aggressive and bad geo-politics which is simple sell kerosine to one and match sticks to others and let them light each other on fire for ultimate benefit to US that is the defence export.
@@onionknight5553 Sure, they mad the blunders and so Indira Gandhi too. But she took way too much U turn of national interest to self serve her greed for power.
As an Indian, I appreciate the neutral look toward my country's geopolitical situation when it is very easy to bash India for buying Oil from the other side. Not only you perspective neutral you also managed to explain the nuances of India's complicated Geopolitical situation
@@baneh1329 Probably just anyone not American being sick of America being the center of world politics. They'll naturally root for the underdog, which is whoever is against NATO and the US. Just my theory anyway.
@@weybye91 The US has never dragged an ally into a war. Only 1 ally is Iraq and that was Britain voluntarily because the rest of EU said no. Every other war it was the US helping someone else (Kuwait/saudi, South Korea, South Vietnam/France, Phillepenes) Usually the US has had a coalition of 20+ allies.
As others have mentioned, America's continued military support for Pakistan is the biggest fly in the ointment for India/US relations. The Indians have had American made weapons unleashed against them and haven't forgotten...
We dont care much if you supply weapons to those Pakistanis we won anyway. But it angers US When US Privided funds to Terror Groups meant for Afghanistan but were diverted towards India by Pakistan which targeted Indian Civilians. Search up about David Headly Ex American FBI official later Turned to CIA and later joined Terror groups He was the one who provided Intels to Pakistani based terror groups via Pakistani Intelligence ISI about where to do attacks , Spots etc which led to 26/11 Mumbai Attacks . US is Still not ready to Transfer David Headly for Interrogation by RAW.
as a vietnamese, VN's situation with russian arms trading is the same with india's we are looking for alternatives in places that could have close russian alternatives, like israel, serbia, (surprisingly) south korea, or even india; recently czech got added in the list with the L-39NG training jets deal (the first airframes are coming to VN this december)
Why not older variants of Leopard tank? Like Leopard 2a4 or even 2a5 as they are quite cheap and pretty reliable (Price to performance) 😅 As South Korean tanks are expensive And Israeli tanks are very good but are only suited for their own geographical defense I don't know much about Indian tanks Except most of them are imported from Russia and some are hybrid between the West and Russian designs
@@sharinganamvs9839 the problem is only big for high-tech products like fighter jets we only have sukhoi fighters we dont have much problem with tanks or artillery we have literal thousands of them in reserve storage, and domestic modernization plans for any of them
@@rinaldoman3331 man, if only we can buy chinese jets like j-10 or the dirt cheap jf-17 assembled in pakistan if only we dont live next to china and china doesnt take our islands
@@tranquoccuong890-its-orge your government can get some F 16s and probably even F 35s from the US but it may spark aggression for the CCP😅 There's the French Rafael too And the Eurofighter typhoon (which I would probably not suggest) Cause they are too expensive But works almost the same as F 35s
India has become that one trader from the games that trades with everyone irrespective of their sides or ideologies...sometimes it pays off...while it's hurts the other times....
Trade is in blood of Indians. ! In past we get rich by trade (not by warmongering ) that's the reason why india got looted in last eventually! But not now ! Now we have defence which can beat the shit out of our enemy Switzerland is model country for india !
@Task & Purpose A common misconception among foreigners is that India use the exact same export variant of Russian equipment ,whereas Indian used Russian weapons are very different and includes Indigenous systems/subsystems along with foreign made additions . For example Su 30 used by India are of Su 30 Mki variant which are equipped with Indian, Israeli and French made avionics, Mission computer, Electronics and Communications . Su 30 mki can also fire Meteor and ASRAAM missile along with Indigenous BVR missile Astra . India is going to replace / is replacing many of the existing Soviet/Russian made weapons with Made in India systems like Mig 21 and 27 with HAL Tejas MK1 and Mk1a Osa 9k33 SAM system with Drdo QRSAM Pechora SAM with Akash SAM etc... India has an existing manufacturing base for the production of critical spare parts for regular maintenance of Russian weapon systems .
that's a great point! I've covered India's military modernization about a year ago and there's a lot there I need to dig into and cover in a future video
i have heard of an Indian indigenous attack helicopter completely replacing imported systems due to the hi-altitude / hi-payload requirements along India's mountain regions. Is that a major program or just a smaller support project?
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@@Taskandpurpose India had a good military partnership with the US and UK till 1960. The proof is a joint operation with the CIA in China. A plutonium device (due to unlimited energy) was planned to be put in the Himalayas to monitor China which is still missing to this date. Then Nixon happened. Nixon hated the Indians and started supplying Pakistan against India and the Chinese against the Soviets. So the Soviets started cozying to india to have multiple fronts for China. Remember, the Soviets and CIA killed a sitting prime minister of India because he wanted to have an independent foreign policy. The Soviets started giving jets and tanks to India to power up their military. There were so many Communist in India that they took over all of the institutes and started doing communist crap. The relationship continued till 1991.
Very good point. India wants the tech more than anything. Their next step is homemade. They learned long ago they can’t count on the west. They know they can’t trust China. Russia is the only one left at the table as a supplier willing to share tech. Another important point is that India has nearly twice Russia’s GDP and it’s about to overtake China in population. They have the resources to become a much larger player in the years to come as their homegrown tech matures.
India is unlikely to enter into military alliances for or against someone. The Indian foreign minister stated that military alliances never resolve the actual problem. He stated that is the reason they don't want to internationalize the border dispute with China.
Keeping conflicts bilateral is what India does best. Pakistan keeps on making noises internationally but India clearly says its bilateral. There were 18 on ground military level negotiations with China after 2020 border clashes where India made it very clear to return to positions prior to the conflict. China can't win war with India nor India can fully win both will suffer major losses and they both know. US tried to prop up India against China after clashes but unlike Ukraine , Indians are not so naive. Narendra Modi is not a stupid or naive leader. He is extremely experienced in politics so the west can't pressure him.🎉
@@Zarozian pakistan may want peace with india in short term but its ultimate goal is to islamise india and make a single islamic nation encompassing entire south asia. They feel that the quaranic prophecy of "ISLAMIC CONQUEST OF INDIA" is solely their duty.
@@GAURAV-dm1gm Even Pakistan can see that being allies with India is beneficial in the long term. China can guarantee that it stays that way with Pakistan too if India chooses to ally with China. It is foolish to be enemies with your neighbors!
@@Zarozian u wont understand because u are living in such a country that is surrounded by fellow christian nations. I will prefer to put is like this-- Its basically like RASHIDUN CALIPHATE being neighbours with the SASSANIAN EMPIRE. Or the EASTERN ROME being neighbour with OTTOMAN . no matter what u do ... the other wants to conquer u anyday. There is a islamic prophesy that like constantinople, india will be conquered near the end of world. And these Pakistanis think its their responsibility to bring india down & islamise india . U can google ' GHAZWA- E - HIND" u will get to understand about it.
India has been very WISE…As an American I support how India has balanced its foreign relations..yes. I totally agree that the threats posed by Pakistan and China is the priority that must be addressed…I totally get it..Thank you for the objectivity and education 👏👏👏
I'd say India has done pretty well in diversifying their supplier base. Just off the top of my head I can think of India having recently bought, licence-built, or co-developed major platforms or weapons systems from Israel, the US, France, South Korea, and the UK.
Don't talk like an expert about something you don't know. India is a peaceful nation surrounded by wolves. Always had a history of keeping defensive attitude until all the nerves were crossed. Now India will be offensive to any threats. Long live India. 🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳
Pretty good big-picture summary. I'm surprised that I don't often see the US-Pakistan relationship mentioned in explanations of why India gravitated more towards the USSR than the West in terms of arms and security arrangements. To massively oversimplify what was a complex, multi-faceted process: In the 1950s-80s the US judged that Pakistan, because of its geographic position was a more crucial cold-war ally than India. Since Pakistan and India had been locked in conflict since the partition of the former British colony, how could that have had any other effect than to push India into closer ties with the USSR? It seems like a very obvious and substantial factor, but I don't often see it mentioned. Decades later, with so many things changed, it seems like there is much more potential for the interests of India and the US to align. I wouldn't expect the two nations to come running into each other's arms, however. There are good reasons to foster alliance and also reasons to not move too quickly. It'll be interesting to watch that process.
USA accepting Pakistan's offer of friendship over India was a bit foolish in modern perspective yet it made since since India shook hands w the USSR 20 years earlier. India pushed USA into supporting the disaster of a nation -Pakistan.
A little background story the on India - Russia relation After the Indian partition in 1947 the U.S funded Pakistan with money and weaponry and didn’t want to sell weapons to the Indians. Russia was the only country that would sell weapons which was needed for Indian national security. I hope this helps.
Sorry but you are wrong. India had a good military partnership with the US and UK till 1960. The proof is a joint operations with CIA in China. A plutonium device (due to unlimited energy) was planned to be put in the Himalayas to monitor China which is still missing to this date. Then Nixon happened. Nixon hated the Indians and started supplying Pakistan against India and the Chinese against the Soviets. So the Soviets started cozying to india to have multiple fronts for China. Remember, the Soviets and CIA killed a sitting prime minister of India because he wanted to have an independent foreign policy. The Soviets started giving jets and tanks to India to power their military. There were so many Communist in India that they took over all of the institutes and started doing communist crap. The relationship continued till 1991.
@@Contractor48 I am sorry that is wrong too. In the 1965 Indo Pakistan war the Pakistani military was almost wholly supplied by the US. Patton tanks and F86 sabre accounted for most of their weapons. Indias dependence on the UK was because most of our equipment was outdated stuff from WW2 left behind by our former colonizers
@@tamberlame27 Richard Nixon was VP of the US from 1953 - 1961. And the Nanda devi operation was in 1965 where India and the US cooperated to spy on China. The Indian PM was assassinated in 1961 by the Soviets and CIA collaboration. Pakistan was funded in 1971 when Nixon was in office 1969- 1973. Before that, 1965 truce was done by the Soviets. The 1965 war resulted in both India and Pakistan feeling betrayed by the western power. Pakistan moved closer to China and India to the Soviets after that. : Source Wikipedia. Bruh, where am I wrong?
@@subhajit201 I don't know if it's wise to bring up India's opportunistic behavior with Saddam Hussein's Iraq in a conversation on India's "non-alignment." It starts to paint an uncanny picture.
It's amazing what we can do together as human beings who are willing to trust and kept open relationships with one another. Everyone wins more often than not. Good going India.
Very well researched and quite refreshing view from someone from US. Not many westerners empathize with India for its approach on its foreign relations, mostly because they're ignorant on India's geopolitical challenges and threats from its neighbors. There are many factions outside and inside India that are actively trying to split the country in pieces, India approach to foreign relations has been molded from these threats.
This is the exact map used by almost all countries except india it's annoying but this is reality unless we take back our Rightful land through diplomacy or military
@@YouDouchebags792 I completely agree with you, however this channel is better off than other channels. For example, GeographyNow shows the entire Arunachal Pradesh region as a "disputed" region, even though there is no logic of Chinese presence there.
Chris, India relationship goes deeper than that with Russia, the US backed Pakistan in weapons for years after partitioning & India had to go to Russia to defend itself, Even when Pakistan was trying to develop a nuclear bomb which was exposed , India eventually created one itself in secret even though closely watched by the US, (there is a good film about it) hence why India has a close relationship with Russia still for tall the support it received
@@HJJ135 no they don't. In the history of Russia pakistan ties, Russia has only ever sold a couple of helicopters to Pakistan and maybe smaller insignificant weapons. But Russia has never strengthened their ties with Pakistan. Even when pakistani Prime Minister visited Russia during the Ukraine invasion, begging for cheaper oil, they were never given any deal, while india was enjoying cheaper oil way before that
It would have been better if you would've mentioned about Indo-pak 1971 war in which USA favoured a military dictatorship called Pakistan and Russia helped India ( the world's largest democracy) . Because of which India and Russia got into a strategic relationship for decades 😊
India is an Elected Democracy in name only. Media which is essential part of democracy does not exist. We are all anti national or other derogatory phrases to silence criticism
It was the Soviet Union, Soviet union ended 1991 so 2 decades. A common mistake people in India do when they support Russia killing, raping, torturing people and occupying land because Soviet Union helped India but the people of India do not support Ukraine defending themself but they were also Soviet Union.
The US supported the wrong side in 1971 due to US paranoia about the Soviets that India had already aligned with and disastrously bad advice from Kissinger who is an idiot or a traitor.
@@stupidburpKissinger is a demon beyond imagination, he was silent on Pakistan 's industrial scale slaughter of Hindus in Bangladesh. This is an inglorious past which is not forgotten by indians
So far, one of the most unbiased and educated on Indian thinking by westerner. This is exactly how we think. Indians just want to grow economically and have a happy life for ourselves and our future generations.
Nope this is still somewhat biased He said India's purchase of Russian oil undermines western efforts but he will not point out china's purchase of Russian oil Hypocracy
@@vorrdegard2176 You are biased. China cancelled pipe line project with Russia due to war. India playing old trick money has no smell. It's happiness stained in Ukrainian children blood. Back when it was USSR i did participate in few USSR military equipment deals with India. Never seen anything more corrupt then Indian government. "Oh yeah we like Russian tanks but how much will you give me to sign contract".
One thing I would like to mention. India was also kind of pushed towards Soviet by US and west in 70s. US chose to support(economically and militarily) a fundamentally Islamic Dictator state over Democratic Secular Republic of India. One of important event was 1972 war where US came to our doors to attack us with Nuclear armed fleet and we had to make deal with Soviets to make them bring their nuclear subs against US fleet. That was when non-alignment policy was heavily damaged and India became playground of US soviet games.
India is a power that no country can ignore and so they will not be swayed by any block or country. The relationship between Russia and India is strong because the Russians do not force India to ditch the US while the US tries to force India to ditch Russia. Ditching Russia would mean losing options and placing India firmly under the US.
@@resplandent Well no, Russia hasn't run out of missiles, but that was better than starting to produce missiles with such poor quality that they look more like rockets.
1:36 I never thought a westerns would be able to understand this critical point like you did , this point has been discussed in many Hindi channel of Geo-political thinkers such as World affairs or Amit Sengupta but you are the first foreign channel to discuss this I think. Well done 👏👏
yeah, i understand indias position, id prefer them to support ukraine, but their history with russia and security concerns makes neutrality a reasonable choice. Plenty of westerners understand that you need to watch more western channels ;)
@@captainalex157 even on the surface normal Indian people prefer Russia over Ukraine because Ukraine has been selling tanks and other military hardware to Pakistan despite India's contentions. Those same weapons are then used by Pakistan for terrorism in Jammu Kashmir. It's been a NATO and US shill for a long time now. Not to mention how Ukraine voted against India when the matter for jammu kashmir was taken up, the place where Im from. No one here supports Ukraine in any way. It's a hostile nation for the people of jammu kashmir atleast.
As an Indian....i will say this is tough time for Russia....and they helped us in our tough time in 1971.....and we also know that no one can help without their own interest somewhere....may be we also have some our interest so we are with russia with neutral stand..
that help was not of friend ship but strategic interest. if you believe other wise you are living in a fantasy world. in Geo politics there are NO friends.
How about working together with China and trading with them and allow them to help India develop. They'd much rather an ally than an enemy to their south.
Bruh if you don’t know back than I’m 90s there was a saying “Hindi Chini bhai bhai” which meant Indian and Chinese are like brothers until they started betraying us, they helped Sri Lanka you know what happened right? Soon Pakistan ganna meet the same fate
@@Zarozianthey were frei ds till 1962 then they both fought the war and then den xo ping inclined towards usa and then china grew so fast and got against usa Russia China can't be friends they have fought war in 60s
I love how this supposedly average infantryman routinely produces such deep and well balanced videos with amazing analysis on a wealth of subjects. Thumbs up man! 👍
For a foot soldier (😂😂) your analysis is amazingly close to reality! Bravo 👏 One more angle. Loyalty and gratitude are Indian values, amongst others. For example teachers are respected for entire life. American arrogant support to dictators especially in Pakistan is in the memory. And so is the Soviet support to start steel industry, Atomic energy installations and Military equipment to fight poverty and Pakistani Pattons and Saber jets. It will be hard to win Indian friendship and trust and even more hard to lose it.
friendship with india is of no benefit to usa except using india against china. us support to pakistan is based on geopolicital importance as pakistan gives us leverage on afghanistan and iran. india is just a potential next china for usa so usa just wants to play china vs india issues
it took long time for our ancestors to understand that there are no so called friends or enemies, it just human desires,greed, intrest more... colliding with other humans , imposed on and by others...now is the same it's all geopolitics with greed, ulterior motives....
Well Cappy, I would say you did significantly more than an average presentation on the general historic perspective of India’s geopolitical position in the last 75 years. Congratulations, job well done and thank you, 👍
India, in the end, will grow their economy, the population is extremely young, China and Russia, on the other hand, have an old workforce. Also Indian food is better
I like how everyone acts like "growing your economy" is like this super easy and inevitable thing and not a massive challenge only a handful of developing countries have really done lol
an extremely young popolation is not always a blessing. It means that a lot of the best ones are leaving the country and also mean lack of specialization and solidity of the economic framework
It's alignment with the Soviet Union has slowed it's economic development. Globalization is a product of the US led global order, of which India has not fully reaped. Times are changing however. As India becomes more intertwined in globalization, a lean towards the west becomes inevitable.
U missed the biggest point---US support of terrorism against India by Pakistan! Also, US send a nuclear warship again us in 1971 war. We have a long memory.
You missed a key point: US sent seventh fleet to attack India in 1971 war against Pakistan. But USSR intervened and sent its nuclear submarines to defend India. No Indian will ever forget this. The US also turned us down when we asked for help during Kargil war. We asked for Laser guidance kit for missiles and satellite images, but the US refused. In the end, Israel helped us with those system that were crucial to dislodged Pakistani soldiers infiltrated in Indian territories.
@Roshan Chachane And you missed the reality that it was not Russia who saved India in 1971. The USSR under the order of Ukrainian Leonid Brezhnev who saved India.
@@dartfather Ukrainian under the rule of Moscow. I haven't even mentioned how Ukraine sent arms, ammunition and even radars to Pakistan during the Kargil War.
@@roshanchachane142 The rule of Moscow means nothing! Under an autocratic government, the leader is the KING. The one who gave the order was a Ukrainian.
Western sanctions are confined to EU/G7. There's a reason why there aren't blanket sanctions on Russian oil, fertilizer and grain. India, being the third largest consumer of oil, with little in terms of domestic reserves has few options to take. Furthermore, Russia isn't confusing India's stance as "standing beside Russia in its war of aggression". Russia is portraying it so, because it suits their narrative for both domestic and international audiences.
I really don't think any of the G7/EU country's leadership wants India to join the oil sanction. Else they wouldn't have used a price cap mechanism on Russia oil. Policy makers seem pretty happy that India is getting access to cheap oil to drive your economy and making the profits instead of the Russians. Its mostly media that is making the noise and frankly media are idiots. Keep buying those Russian oil, they are selling them at a loss for current price levels.
Bharat is supporting Rossiya, now and always. Bharat didn't support Iran and abandoned them, which was a mistake in the face of US sanctions. However Rossiya is a red line and the only strong ally Bharat has. USA is inherently treachorous scumbag and no friend of Bharat. And since when has the West hesitated to bully countries if they could get away with it?
With all due respect, but there is no blanket sanctions on Russian fertilizer or grain. And there's only a price cap for oil. There are financial sanctions, insurance sanctions, and technological sanctions, but no sanctions on fertilizer or grains. None that I could find at least.
Was it. He never said how US supported Pakistan and their terrorists. He never said how US sent their navy to attack India and it was Russia who saved India with their nuclear subs. He never said how US attack Modi and tried to charge him. US is no friend of India. They just want India to do all the fighting with China so both be destroyed.
One thing that was not covered was India's sub-par experience with post soviet Russian Defence Paraphanelia. India purchased INS Vikramaditya Aircraft Carrier from Russia which was mothballed Soviet Missile Cruiser of Gorshkov class. It was offered for around $1.5 billion, deal was signed, payments were made and cost was immediately jacked up to $4.5 billion USD. Russian Shipbuilder Sevamash Ship Yard issued a threats on the lines of "Pay up $4 Billion or we would fix the ship and hand it over to Russian Navy. Since the payments were done and India was over dependent on Russia that was the worst nightmare for the government of that time. After a lot of back and forth a new deal was worked out, where India paid up more money, delivery was delayed and right before the delivery the ship broke down due to shoddy workmanship in the boilers. Its not only Indian Navy, IAF operates, SU-30 MKI which come with AL-31 engines which were not thermocline which means that these engines work fine in cold subzero temperatures of Russia but in Hot and Humid and high sea level environment of India these engines used to wear out fast and perform suboptimally. The situation was so dire that Indian scientists had to work on AL-31 Engine, reverse engineer the components, work on new thermal coating for AL-31 engines to make them flight worthy since IAF operates over 250+ SU 30 MKI. Even after doing so much work the availability of the aircraft is only 60%.
Thanks for doing justice to a complex and nuanced topic by covering how we got here, what it is now and where it is going to head. It is a spot on analysis which is far better done than the tons of talking heads. It is balanced in actually covering the perspective from the Indian side. Finally, it shows clearly where it is headed... Self reliance to pursue its own values and interests rather than the narrow minded -- with us or against us.
@@TheRezro That's an incident because which most of the Indians still don't trust the US and still think of Russia positively. It was a major incident where the USSR actually came to India's aid when India was geopolitically isolated and India needed help but there were no allies to help India except for the USSR. The USSR helped one of the most geopolitically isolated country on the planet despite knowing that it might result in a war with NATO.
@@lmaonoobs3779 I know that. But the problem is that Russia is not the USSR. Russia is last Colonial Empire. When early USSR was largely controlled by Ukrainians. Supporting geocidal Russians is supporting wrong side in this case.
@@TheRezro In simple words, Russia is carrying on the legacy of the USSR whereas Ukraine has chose completely different path where it clearly doesn't align with India and has condemned India ocassionally in support of India's enemies and they now expect us to condemn Russia which has supported us on almost every single issue be it the removal of Article-370 or be it our war with Pakistan in 1999. Supporting Ukraine is senseless but at the same time supporting Russia is not good either. Just stay neutral and let's not interfere in their bilateral issues. Russia isn't a colonial Empire. It's simply something that you want to call them as.
I never understood the anger of sovereign countries making deals that are best for them. The US can and will do the exact same thing, often upsetting other countries along the way. I don't think them buying Russian oil will really make a dent in the long term decline of Russia due to numerous economic and demographic issues, and they can use that benefit to develop as a counterweight to China, and possibly even eclipse them eventually as that regions superpower. Long story short lose the battle of Russian gas but win the war of a long term regional partner.
As an Indian,the us and most other us aligned European countries will decline as soon as the European population lose their majority status. Without an European culture and outlook,the west will be a mess. Russians will still have Russia. Demography is destiny.
I think you need to define Russians and Russia in general. The majority of Russians live in the European corridor, but have the worst demography. The majority or Russian recourses are out east. Russians in the sense of the traditional Slavic Europeans won't have enough manpower to hold the recourse rich far east Russia, and so in that sense Russians won't always have Russia. As far as the US goes, the country is a pretty homogenous society with abundant recourses as well. Throw Canada into the mix, and they have just about every recourse they need to be self sustainable. I can see them going the route of Japan becoming a more isolationist but highly developed country. I don't see the full back slide taking place as in Russia. Will the US lose their superpower status, yes I think its inevitable. But that doesn't come from a decline in standard of living so much as a self induced pull back towards isolationism.
@@rassilkrishnan3120you don't seem to know the Russian demography then. 130 million people (Europe is 600 mil, US is 360 mil). And those 130 mil will be 90 mil in 20 years. Russias Economy os even smaller than the spanish economy.
yeah you mean the EU that does not haev a strong sense of identity whether it is religious, ethnic or otherwise. A multicultural, non-European 'EU' won't be offering a coherent worldview for themselves to follow, let alone present a military or a foreign policy and I say this as a non-white person, an indian. A confused state or superstate will be breaking at the seams and suffering from the problems of multiracialism, multiculturalism and multireligious society which promotes diversity rather than forcing unity to a culture,religion,etc. France,Britain and many others will be facing this problem. Neoliberals, conservatives and liberals keep denying it.@@terribrad24
_”It all makes perfect sense if you don’t think about it.”_ Lol too true. Most geopolitical issues I understand, but India’s situation gives me migraines. But I agree, it’s way past time that the world’s oldest democracy and the world’s largest democracy were more closely aligned.
Ya and once in the past... The "world's strongest democracy" tried to destroy "world's largest democracy"..and.. More over "world's strongest democracy" aligned itself with an dictatorship just in the neighbour of largest "world's largest democracy"... Soo i hop this information would help to prevent your headache a little... 😊.... And Ya the year was 1971...
China would falter just as hard as Russia has. The real question is; does India have the integrity to be what it aspires too? The fact it’s the largest democracy in the world makes me think that it has the structural integrity on many levels to achieve this. I hope it does. The world has been waiting for a true super power worthy of the name.
The second Task Force 74 was assembled from the U.S. Navy's Seventh Fleet that was deployed to the Bay of Bengal by the Nixon administration in December 1971 during the Indo-Pakistani War. The fleet was sent to intimidate Indian forces at the height of the conflict. that is what led to Indian citizens not liking the US because when India was at war against Pakistan US and their ally sent their navy to India only Russia came forward to help India at that time that why no one Like US
For a average Infantry man like you, this is the most accurate analysis of Indian Foreign Policy that no one can give. Even the big mouths of various think tanks. Great work.Congrats. Best wishes.
If you don’t realize this nice man is supplying data from CIA and military intel channels, and likely has their staffing support to produce this channel, you are not paying attention carefully. I agree, the content and quality and sheer mass of production he delivers is impressive. It is also far beyond the capacity and capability of a person who is not deeply supported by a government agency. The “lack of bias” you observe is a testament to the high quality of intel based on decades of country studies.
With all due respect, a $500M aid package is just a fart for a country that has a an annual $80B defense budget. I doubt that the Indian government is paying much heed.
As an Australian Military veteran, I'm keen to see greater co-operation between India and the US, Australia, Japan and other western aligned countries, but I see their reasons for wanting to walk the line of isolation. Also the little 'love triangle' photo op at 17:25 with Modi, Putin and Xi you see the common Paddington bear image of Xi showing boredom or disdain at needing to pose with other world leaders.
Here is the brutal honest ans which hardly any Indian will say, but will do and then u will feel surprised. Indian won't help any country, be it Taiwan, urs or any other from China. Untill it is necessary for us. We will never be an ally of any country, ever. The concept of multi-allignment policy is only till we grow in economics and millitary terms. After that you won't be hearing these words. If china would make peace with us, we would form an alliance with china and Russia instead of western powers. To think that India will always fight west war with china whenever the time requires, is another dumb dream of u western people. It's equivalent to the same thing where u were made a fool out of u by Pak when Afghanistan invasion started. Thinking that democratic country will always oppose authority and spread democracy worldwide doesn't fit in India. If china makes peace with us , we won't even bother about their regime and their doings on uigur Muslims etc. No one in India cares who dies and lives outside their territory.
@@abhimanusingh66and europeans here arent actually fighting china, nobody cares. In amerika things might be different, but that is also due to how the ccp looks at amerika
Dear Cappy, this is a late reply, but you need to be corrected. India post Independence was buying British & French weapons. We had Vickers tanks, Mystere jets etc. But after that India started the NON Aligned moment as the world was divided into American block and USSR block, but the west looked at NAM as "if you are not with us, you are against us" India was a socialist Democratic country, so ideologically it went closer to Soviet union. thus all the weapons in India were Russian. The cars were japanese, German, Italian (FIAT) and few local indian brands inspired by British cars. In 70s most companies were nationalised, foreign companies left India. In 1990s India changed to market economy, thus different countries started investing. But still the west was not that eager to sell weapons to India further there was a flawed model of purchase. If you look at say top of the line planes, Russian plane might be 10 million, the Western plane might be 25 million, so automatically as per the tender the Russian plane would win, sometimes Russia might subsidize the price to ensure they got the deal and support of india. this model of purchasing lowest price plane, was a flaw, which Indian MoD started to understand, and rather than merely go on purchase price, they went for life cycle cost. So its price of plane, spares for 40 years, maintenance etc, also availability rate. For example a Russian Su-30MKI would require upto 10-12 engines for its lifetime of say 40 years. IAF flies 240 hours a year, that makes it 9600 hours, Engine lifetime of AL-31FP is about 1500 hours, but on other hand, western engines are expensive, but their lifetime is about 6000-10000 hours. so for what one might need 10-12 russian engines (twin engine planes so upto 6 changes) will need 1 change for western plane for its lifetime, thus 2 engines. also western engines are modular, hence the faulty module is replaced with good one, & the plane is ready to fly, when the plane is flying the faulty module is repaired. thus even with fault in engine, its identified, the faulty module replaced and the plane is ready to fly. The Russian engine has to be opened the fault identified and repaired, thus the plane either is grounded or an extra engine that is in stock has to be used to fly. Thus western fighters have higher availability rate as compared to Russian ones. Russian planes are cheap to buy, but in 40 years they end up costing twice the price of Western planes. so now India is not going for the cheap price, but for weapon that is effective & offers better lifecycle cost for period of say 40 years for plane.
All true yet one key thing was cleverly phrased causing NATO nations to distrust India. "Nationalized" means India stile private property, factories built by western owners, then gave them over to politically connected locals as gifts, with expectations of greater support. That's how some families in India became Uber rich while oppressing 750 million citizens via extreme racism (also abhorrent to most westerners). How can u trust mega racists who stole your property, buy weapons from your biggest enemy, support your enemy politically & mirror their economic system after your enemy? Early India was only barely, not communist.
@@davidfisher5140 Well you are factually incorrect, seems you are still living in 70s. Nationalisation took place in 70s, companies like Coca cola left India, they returned back in 90s and thriving now. Whatever the companies were nationalised then, there were not many that were used. The fact is that to run a company not only need factories and people but strategies. Which country is not racist? But in India we accept the differences and move on, unlike west which is left talking about racism, giving rise to new "movements" which actually disturb everything that was to be positive. West should definitely not talk about racism I mean each day there are racially motivated murders in the west, not in India. The fact is that in 60s USA found it more easy to work with Pakistan than with India. So Pak was buying USA weapons, we purchased from the competitor and they work well. I mean battle of longewala, the top USA tank Patton in brigade was utterly destroyed by company of indian soldiers. In politics there are no enemies only interest, so if west takes their interest, we shall take ours. you should stop whining and get over it, that might help. Further whatever policies we had, we are not top 5 economy, so nothing we complain of, wonder why you are crying?
@sachi ... You contradict yourself. Nationalization by definition is theft from private owners by government. It is a key reason why Africa has difficulty getting major industry investment, bc many times in the past once the west in est3r, they stole it, then ran it into the ground destroying the stolen business through incompetence. India competently managed the stolen properties. Racism? Your poor understanding comes from media manipulation. USA has the least racism in the world (nearly so). India's racism is the Brahmans manipulating all others against ea other. 100yrs of Hindi history keeps over 50% of the population in legislated extreme poverty, effective slavery. It 5ook a long time for USA get past that, 200yrs, but we did. Then equal rights followed not long thereafter. I really like India despite its massive problems with race & religion. But if ppl like you can lean to listen to those better educated & experienced, your country could be improved much more rapidly. BTW, I root for India overtaking US software industry. Bc our software ppl are actually 3nemi3s of USA seeking to destroy USA from the inside while also stealing from other nations (yours included). Many misunderstand India. One thing not stated often is the irrational fear & hatred of "colonizers." Irrational beliefs harm India. U aren't blessed by a rat peeing on you & it should be common to safeguard food from pests. India could become a vast powerhouse if a few fundamental changes are made. Hint: rats & dalits
Oops! Sorry for that typo. 1000 not 100. Yes I know about the 4k history but co sidereal only the past 1000yrs since it takes a while for ideas to spread.
Apart from the mentioned and commented points, I believe that there is a well known emotional support for Russia from Indian public because of its role in '72 and '99 war. It's not like India did not ask the west for help during those wars, but it received help from Russia. It will always be apparent to India that the current military alliance interests from the west is for serving their own geopolitical interest rather than humane interests.
I like this series of intermittent foreign policy deep(ish) dives, the Myanmar one was also very good. If you could explain to me what Wagner/Prigozhin is (has been) doing in Africa, that would also be interesting.
India has been more and more wary about Russian weapons. They had "problems" before the war in Ukraine, now, they seem outdated. This is why they envision buying more "rafales" for their carrier and air force, rather than Sukhoi.
Su-30 MKI is on its way to be upgraded with indigenous avionics. Will be among the most advanced 4.5 generation aircraft in the region. Upscaled Uttam AESA radar, DRWR, Jammer, etc all in the works. The fleet is to be upgraded in two phases. Upgrades have likely already begun. MKI uses far superior avionics and weapons systems to its Russian counterpart.
The 'problem' is blown out of proportion. Those weapons has so far was able to fend off 'technological superior weapons' from all the western countries put together.
@@mecha-sheep7674 I guess he's talking about India's previous wars with Pakistan whose entire arsenal was made up of Western weapons, not so long ago. As of now, Chinese and Turkish weapons are the major contributors to Pakistani military.
@@varun2250 The last real war was in 1971... And in Kargil conflict, India won the conflict through the use of Mirage 2000 while its Mig-21 got shot down...
As an Indian I would say you have put our point of view brilliantly , Everything was on point . one thing I wanna mention is that rather than saying India shouldn't align with Russia or should not buy Russian oil west should take steps for being closer a closer ally of India , the more you come closer to India , more we will reduce our dependence on Russia
I'm always rooting for India I think they're a key ally for the west going into 2023.
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That's A Joke ! We Will See. So Far They R Paying To Buy Russian Oil ! But There Money Is Killing Ukrainian Children !
Indian here who supports Ukraine and is from militarybackground.
Here are few points to consider:
1. 1971 Bangladesh liberation war.
- USA stood with Pakistan and sent itsTask Force 74 out of it's 7th fleet to attack India, USSR came to our rescue.
2. When USA did not support india in it's nuclear tests after China tested its nuclear bomb and put sanctions, ussr helped us.
3. US killed our beloved rocket scientists and tried to undermine our rocket and space program.
- USSR assisted us with their technology.
4. USA continues to give funds and arms/ ammunition to pakistan which gets rerouted to terrorists against india and taliban against USA itself.
5. Depending on USA only have damaged countries like vietnam, Afghanistan, etc.
- Whenever USA is in a tough spot, it scoots and leaves its allies on their own.
- unreliable like Russia.
6. Russia always helps us in UNSC with its veto.
7. We don't want Russia and China to team up against India.
- already pakistan and china are teamed up against india..
- it will be us who will face the brunt, not the USA which is across an ocean.
8. USA woke newspapers always emanates anti india propaganda and calls anti nationalists to pen their editorials. Example: New York Times.
- Calls our govt Hindu nationalist but doesn't calls its own government Christian nationalist in a country where to take oath on the Bible.
- In india we take oath on our constitution.
9. Last special point, Europe continues to buy gas from Russia.
- What india buys in a month, Europe buys I an afternoon in monetary terms.
- Why target india then?
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Anyways, Slava ukraini.
Jai hind 🇮🇳
Change the map. Kashmir is part of India.
@@matthewcarpenter9727 usa /natos war funding killing people's
India's only major external military concern is a two front conflict against China and Pakistan. This important part of its geopolitical calculation is something you should have covered.
Pakistan is irrelevant, China has always been the real threat
Indian here who supports Ukraine and is from militarybackground.
Here are few points to consider:
1. 1971 Bangladesh liberation war.
- USA stood with Pakistan and sent itsTask Force 74 out of it's 7th fleet to attack India, USSR came to our rescue.
2. When USA did not support india in it's nuclear tests after China tested its nuclear bomb and put sanctions, ussr helped us.
3. US killed our beloved rocket scientists and tried to undermine our rocket and space program.
- USSR assisted us with their technology.
4. USA continues to give funds and arms/ ammunition to pakistan which gets rerouted to terrorists against india and taliban against USA itself.
5. Depending on USA only have damaged countries like vietnam, Afghanistan, etc.
- Whenever USA is in a tough spot, it scoots and leaves its allies on their own.
- Not reliable like Russia.
6. Russia always helps us in UNSC with its veto.
7. We don't want Russia and China to team up against India.
- already pakistan and china are teamed up against india..
- it will be us who will face the brunt, not the USA which is across an ocean.
8. USA woke newspapers always emanates anti india propaganda and calls anti nationalists to pen their editorials. Example: New York Times.
- Calls our govt Hindu nationalist but doesn't calls its own government Christian nationalist in a country where to take oath on the Bible.
- In india we take oath on our constitution.
9. Last special point, Europe continues to buy gas from Russia.
- What india buys in a month, Europe buys I an afternoon in monetary terms.
- Why target india then?
..
Anyway, Slava ukraini.
Jai hind 🇮🇳
Also a war against the US if they sided with Russia and China in WW3.
@@abhisekhkumar4948 Jai hind, brother. Canadian Indiaphile here and I am familiar with all you have said. India had the courage to be non-aligned and stay non-aligned and good for them. Stay strong and keep India free!
@@kaoskronostyche9939 Jai hind brother!
Stay safe and stay away from khalistanis.
You cant have a conversation about the relationship between Russia and India without mentioning Pakistan. India felt marginalised by the West's historic support of Pakistan.
Don't have to mention, they can eat the smoke.. were off
I agree, that level of thought will continue to keep that a negative reality. I don’t think many Worcester folks really do understand the folks and leader ship of that region, but they do seem distinct enough to be their own kind of into Asian union like the EU
Our differences in culture should open minds and be appreciated, not spark conflict and “them vs us” binary thought. Most good things in my life were never planned nor considered never imagined.
This is still happening as of today Pakistani will get green card in 2-3 years in usa but Indian they take 22-23years to issue green card.. don’t believe me just verify..
He did mention Pakistan, briefly
Well Pakistan has run off the leash and is firmly in the Chinese camp. After seeing what the Pakistanis did to the US during the American Afghanistan war, don't think Lahore is very welcome anymore in Washington.
One of the factors that emotionally attaches Indians to Russia is the support Russia( then Soviet Union) during the 1971 Bangladesh liberation war
Yes, they were ready to use nukes if India was attacked by USA
Non-sense, that is because they were aligned at that time. political and military alliances do not have emotions. Thank goodness, you are not in government
India will never forget 1971. India 🇮🇳❤️Russia 🇷🇺
@@namewithheldforprivacy7107 Never forget what? You have no idea dude. Russia was willing to throw India under the Bus when it comes to China. Who do you think helped with China war?
@@sheshankutty8552 It was America who had supported India in 1962 war but you won't hear Indians thanking America for helping us in our time of need
Countries do not have friends, only interests.
Agree from India 👍
Totally agree 💯
It's worth noting that the historical reliance India has on Russia for arms is because the US would not sell India the arms they wanted, until recently. Pakistan was getting them!
You can't really talk about India and geopolitics without mentioning Pakistan. They were one united country up until recently and have had on off shooting matches ever since.
You hit the nail right at the head
And are both nuclear powers.
Details here: India had a good military partnership with the US and UK till 1960. The proof is a joint operations with CIA in China. A plutonium device (due to unlimited energy) was planned to be put in the Himalayas to monitor China which is still missing to this date.
Then Nixon happened. Nixon hated the Indians and started supplying Pakistan against India and the Chinese against the Soviets. So the Soviets started cozying to india to have multiple fronts for China.
Remember, the Soviets and CIA killed a sitting prime minister of India because he wanted to have an independent foreign policy.
The Soviets started giving jets and tanks to India to power up their military. There were so many Communist in India that they took over all of the institutes and started doing communist crap. The relationship continued till 1991.
Exactly
@pauljanicek1872 yep, both have nuclear weapons
India lives in a tough neighborhood. Can’t blame them for trying to thread the needle ‘foreign policy’ wise.
Russia is the only partner of India with significant strength. If the Ukraine war takes a heavy toll on Russia, India will be in deep trouble.
They live in the hood bruh.
How many times Russia invade India? Honestly, i cant get it. Why two country working together is like something new? Canada is ok dealing with USA, no one talking about it. Imagine there is no China or Pakistan. You think India gonna be like "there is a big country here with a lot of stuff, but i gonna pretend that it dosnt exist, cause i am not USA, i cant into foreign relationship!"
Really?
lol bruh.....india made it tough with its nasty hindutva thought.
I'm Indian and this news is so insane😂😂😂 west hypocrisy 🤣🤣🤣
It's hard not to be suspicious of the US as an Indian when we remember that it was the Americans who sent an aircraft carrier to intimidate India back when we were fighting a defensive war against Pakistan, and it was the Soviets who sent a nuclear submarine to warn the Americans off
Why living in 1971 lol
@@divya9951you can't trust usa
@@divya9951 History isn't important?
S that why Indians dream to go to the USA?
You cant buy an Indian, but you can rent one.
Man! I'm an Indian and I must say. Most of the content creators discussing India make it look like a third world country by insulting it, while trying to look funny themselves. You, sir, are the only one who has richness in his content, a great sense of humour, and due respect for other ethnic identities. Sir, i salute you.
Sir Sir bolna chor de vai.Safed admi dekha nahi humlog ka inferiority complex shuru ho jata haay.
@@deb9548 Sir hm toh aapko bhi sir bula le, usme kya dikkat h. Aap shyad samajh nhi sake ki ye bas ek bolne ka tareeka h, naa ki kisi ko pedestal pe chadha dene ki aadat. Aapki baat galat nahi h, Indians ka colonial mindset gadbad h, par thankfully ab dheere dheere kam ho rha h.
@@ssagee4101you both are right 👍
@@stillcantbesilencedevennow when you gonna crack down racist police officers
No one will ever take Indian seriously when it supports totalitarian dictatorships who are attacking its other allies, while claiming to be the world's biggest democracy.
Act like a third world country, then you will get treated like a third world country.
In my opinion, by not helping the west; India doesn't want to push russia into China's side completely which is India's archrival.
For Indian perspective, Donald Trump is much better option who consider china bigger problem then russia which is in favour of Indian foreign policy.
Yes !
Yes.
Yes 😊❤
Usa has economic interests in china they still investing in china ... Western Hypocrisy is simples destroy one communist and made other one rich ... West and usa doesnt care if you are communist dictators or anything as long as you are pro usa everything is fine ...
The war has made Russia 100% dependant on the China and the CCP. Meaning, China will leverage this against India. Its important to understand this as an Indian
You should've included the 1971 Bangladesh Liberation war with Pakistan when US openly supported Pakistan and came to strike India.. when USSR submarines came for rescue..
Yes I should have . I cut it from the script because I thought I was making the video too long and complicated. In hindsight I shoulda kept it in
@@Taskandpurpose might be some other reasons because these type of videos attract people like bees towards flowers
@@Taskandpurpose this is one of the main reason why Indians support Russia
@@love._moonlight Nah because that wasn't Russia but the USSR.
Secondly, USSR was under the leadership of Leonid Brezhnev who was Ukranian.
@@redeyexxx1841 yaa you are right, and we are very thankful to Leonid Brezhnev but even he born in today's Ukrainian but he serves for USSR and died in USSR also and after 1992 when Ukrainian came in existence, there behaviour towards India is not so positive , and Russian always supports India without care about western pressure
One of the main reason for India to align a little more towards the Russians rather than the US is because during the 1971 India-Pak war, US & the western world alliance supported Pakistan and even sent the US fleet to support Pakistan. At that crucial moment it was the Russians who sent their nuclear subs to protect India from an attack/intimidation tactics of the west. Hence India always saw Russia as an allay rather than keeping a neutral stance towards Russia.
Whilst factually correct, you seem to miss or avoid the point that it probably more likely that the Soviets didn't do this because they are India's bestie, they did it to spit in the eye of USA. It was a strategy of cold war one upmanship.
When China start making their move to consolidate their hegemony in Asia, do not for one minute think that ruZZia will be rushing to India's aid, because by that time ruZZia will already be neutered & in China's pocket.
Fair enough. India is a friend of russia. Meaning India should be considered an enemy of the US and vice versa. What happened in 1971 should definitely set the stage for relationships in the future.
Understandable that India would be well disposed to Russia after such support, but assistance in the past should not become a green light to tolerate colonial aspirations.
@Shikhar Rawat we’ll keep depending on Russia then. It’s going great for ya. Can’t supply anything except raw oil
if i remember correctly, Russia provided India with cryogenic rocket technology in the 1990s, specifically in 1994, when the two countries signed a deal for the transfer of technology and the supply of cryogenic rocket engines. At that time, other countries, including the United States, had refused to provide India with the technology due to non-proliferation concerns.
there are times when other nations deny or refused to help india , russia always there for India,
but i don't think it is good to support russia blindly cause they helped us in the past... sometimes you need to think
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ur making a complex argument backed up by lots of facts and reasoning
Lmao
😮 i often see mexicans supporting india ...why?
Don’t Lessen American 😂 Russian and India friendship is so old and it’s becoming more stronger year by year .🇮🇳🤝🇷🇺 love from India
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How you avoided the 1971 war of Liberation of Bangaladesh. The U.S dispatched it's 7th Fleet to strike India and defend the Military ruled State Pakistan along with U.K which dispatched its navy. It was USSR which defended India by deploying it's own nuclear submarines.
You have forgotten why the US was an ally of Pakistan in the first place, during the USSR's takeover of Eastern Europe and it's many crimes against innocent Russians, India always supported the Soviets. I understood this to be due to their colonial relationship with the UK and their desire for payback against the West. The UK and USSR were both colonial powers that abused many people, and neither countries should be allies of India. When India complains about the UK, their critics will call them hypocrites for supporting the many crimes of the USSR.
@@bretedwards2899you really know nothing and don’t understand how complex situations India has been through
Your ignorance doesn’t surprises me,bcoz in west you are not taught about our past
@@Being-kind1997 You are incorrect as I have studied world history for many years and i realize how different the various regions are within India. It's more like the united regions of india than a homogeneous country. The political history of india also highlights than for most of it's history, india has not been a unified country. I admire individual leaders such as Lord Krishna, Siddhartha Gautama, even Mohandas Gandhi as inspiration figures for all of mankind. I have also read a lot of the Bhagavad Gita and converse with Indian people who have moved to the US. I also understand that Democracy and human rights are recent additions to India's history and are not part of India's historical culture. Currently India faces military problems from Communist China as well as Pakistan and many various extreme Muslim organizations who hate Hindu culture. The religious differences between Muslims and Hindus as well as Sikhs, even Christians is also well known. i do not belong to any organized religion but I do understand what the term "Cosmic delusion" means and what unified consciousness represents. The disagreements that i have with Indian politics revolves around India selling out it's Hindu morals which are very good for a short term gain at the expense of innocent people. To support the crimes of the Soviet Union/Russia for many decades while knowing what they do to the Russian people and their neighbors is a disgrace, as it also is for the many other countries who act with such dishonor. Humanity rarely acts with honor as the human ego only considers power and domination as worthwhile goals. But you and i can at least not support such acts as we both know they help no one in the long run. Be true to your heart and do not focus only on physical goals as we are all mortal and do nor reside long on Earth.
@@Being-kind1997why would we, dingus? Inappropriate name btw, you seem unkind and whiney.
@@bretedwards2899Crimes? looking at the recent history of wars US must be the last country to talk about it. Colonizer's mindset.
India: the world's largest democracy. Pakistan: enjoys an on/off relationship with dictatorship, preferably military.
Guess which one Kissinger and Nixon recognised as being in their club.
Yeah the USA politics towards Pakistan suck. I still do not understand how America did not entirely shift from Pakistan to India.
I would put Imrahn Kahn in my team before Modi any day. He would be opening with Sachin, booney or Tendulkar.
@@pedrosalvador6341the answer to that would be 'strategic autonomy', which plays out similar to what India is doing with Russia. As an Indian, I'd say what the U.S. did at their time was neither wrong nor right for them, and exactly what we are doing is neither wrong nor right for us. It's all based on Interests buddy
@@pedrosalvador6341 you know Nixon Kissinger Administration supported genocide of Bangladeshi PPL by Pakistan army ryt? 3 million people dead, 300,000 plus women raped and much more horrors
The USA likes military dictators as allies in 3rd world countries, much easier to manipulate and manage.
Secondly Pakistani people have no choice to "enjoy on/off relationship with dictatorship" because everything happens here with order of military establishment and support of US.
Honestly we would be much happier for US and India to become friends and play their great games against China while leaving us out of it.
"I think it's important for soldiers to struggle to understand the type of geopolitics that might end up dragging them to war someday." THANK YOU!
Then you might understand why you will be killed......
i don't like history but When i read history i get "Don't Believe in USA 🇺🇸" 😂.... Thanks gov for thinking about our sake.....democracy is for the country people not for the USA 🇺🇸
@@thecaptainz so true my friend. In geopolitics nobody is your kin, no permanent friend or foe
At 12:20, you mentioned India is shifting from Russian T series tank to Western "Arjun Tank". Arjun is a homegrown Indian tank. Such readily available facts can't be mistaken or quoted wrongly,
He knows that lol. He meant that it is a western style mbt. Smartest indian nationalist
@@vojtapergl858 at first glance you would NOT think it that way
and it sucks just like all of India's other military projects.
@@markdsm-5157 Looks like you have personally tried riding the tank and have lot of experience...LOL
@@markdsm-5157 Mr. would you like a taste of BrahMOS the fastest cruise missle in the world which can be launched from either land, sea or air? Or maybe the Agni 6 with 12000km range?
1:05 The messy relationship between India, Russia, US and China is something you would see in a sitcom
Fact
Yes. But - do you also see hundred thousand civilians killed in a sitcom? Do you see cities like 400 000 population Mariupol completely destroyed in sitcoms?
@@ArchonLicht learn to take a joke
@@samham2843 Not all jokes are funny or good.
@@ArchonLicht You definitely have the Ukraine flag on your social media profiles.
A great overall analysis! The 1971 war to liberate Bangladesh, which was not mentioned, did much to warm the relationship with Russia as the US sided with Pakistan, its arch enemy, and sent the 7th fleet to the Bay of Bengal. China's expansionism on its northern border has done much to build animosity towards the Chinese.
Not the 7th fleet but the USS enterprise* which was the crown jewl of the seventh fleet.
How is the great analysis, it doesn't even mention the support of the Americans in Pakistan! Russia supported India for many decades! Hence why India will never bend over to American and NATO pressure to isolate Russia! Chris didn't do his homework and should of got more Indian insight instead of his on views on the Asian region!
@@WICKEDMAN85Russia never supported India, it was USSR
@@WICKEDMAN85 Soviets also infiltrated Indian government deeply. Read Mitrokhin Archives.
@@ROTHSTEIN01 same , it had always been the US and the west are the permanent enemies of India.
I think it would be important to mention the titanic shift in policy that took place after the 1962 Sino-Indian War and Indian defeat. From that point onward they grew much closer to the USSR because of the ongoing Sino-Soviet rivalry.
India had a good military partnership with the US and UK till 1960. The proof is a joint operations with CIA in China. A plutonium device (due to unlimited energy) was planned to be put in the Himalayas to monitor China which is still missing to this date.
Then Nixon happened. Nixon hated the Indians and started supplying Pakistan against India and the Chinese against the Soviets. So the Soviets started cozying to india to have multiple fronts for China.
Remember, the Soviets and CIA killed a sitting prime minister of India because he wanted to have an independent foreign policy.
The Soviets started giving jets and tanks to India to power up their military. There were so many Communist in India that they took over all of the institutes and started doing communist crap. The relationship continued till 1991.
Yeah one of the reasons good to mention it mate
I think modern day India has come far away from the defeat of 1962, and most modern Indian youth despise Nehru and Gandhi today. This is a real fact.
One big proof is that Congress, the main opponent party tries to associate Nathuram Godse, the man who killed Gandhi, with the RSS and BJP, the ruling dispensation. But still BJP wins election after election because no one cares. And there is a very popular notion that is on right now that Gandhi was quite possibly a British agent.
Yes, it was only 1962 War that our Leaders finally realized that Non !Alignment isn't going to save our Country from Military conquests. After the Sino Indian conflict we started buying a Ton of Arms and Ammunition from the USSR to keep ourselves Battle Ready in case of any Eventuality and it was the primary reason of our Military Victories later in that Decade
Not to mention the NATO's (USA really) alliance with Pakistan and aiding Pakistan which has declared multiple wars against India is a major reason.
The main reason for being neutral in geo politics is that we don't become chess pawns to US or Russia. Also US and west doesn't see their allies to be their equal but beneath them only useful for economic monopoly and geo political power. There is no real intention other than this.
Do you believe Russia considers India a peer?
If the US had maintained their unbiased relationship with India during the India-Pakistan conflict (crisis), they(India) would've been way way much leaning towards and closer ties with the US today. Unfortunately they chose to side with Pakistan, and that's one of the stumbling block that affects the relationship between them even today.
Fair enough. There is no getting over the past. So the US should view India as an enemy.
Democracy west 🇺🇸 definition - For the USA, By Usa and Of the USA rather than for the people, by the people and of the people.. 😂
They didn't chose to side with Pakistan
Pakistan just bought some old US weapons. Pakistan was willing to pay.
Pakistan also has Russian tanks and weapons, but i don't see you complaining.
@@RazorsharpLT pakistan is officially a US ally you know. While its practically dead now it wasn't back then. Maybe you should do more research.
@@RazorsharpLT how Pakistan can have f16 😅 plz explain as they time travel and get it from future... Gaazi asias biggest submarine?? Most advance tanks but we destroyed by simple soviet launcher and usa asked for a report from us about how it were destroyed .. Although they came in indian ocean 7th fleet largest with 50 to 70 warships 😅...
Indians still remember that in the 1971 war, which was Independent India's most important war, US stood with Pakistan by sending it's aircraft career fleet in Bay of Bengal. It was only after USSR sent its nuclear submarines that parity was restored. So while culturally Indians like America, American Foreign policy was and still trying to contain India.
Then you should also remember that the same US had sent aid to india upon jawarharlal nehru's request in the 1962 indo-china war after the ussr had shown a middle finger to india's face and openly sided with china , heck some american pilots even flew all the way to india to help with rescue operations., The same US had also imposed a total arms embargo on pak in 1966 for attacking india with us weapons which they ended up circumventing with the help if china and the ussr, and all the times the US have sanctioned pak leading all the way back to the cold war era, arguably the peak of their relationship. When was the last time russia even condemned let alone sanction china fot attacking india? I guess indians suffer from selective amnesia and outrage. Bunch of whining cry babies who keep badmouthing the west when your entire economy is reliant on the west and the US trade and investment
Stupidity of Nixon and his sidekick Kissinger.
Lol there was no Russia in 1971 it was literally USSR which is now gone Russia has nothing to do with USSR
@@ROTHSTEIN01 plz try to understand the totality of the statement. Don't get in to the Symantec.
It isn't that straight forward.
It's completed
@@basher2888 what ?
Modi walking in the street with putin while looking at biden passing had me laughing out loud.😅
Joe Biden is hotter than I thought.
it IS a great derivation of the dating meme -- LOL 🙂
For Reals! I Die Laughing When I Saw That!🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@Chiller01 He looks like a true villain.
Your comment had me cracking up too😂
Indians ..no matter what will be with Russia.. because Indians don't forget the friend who helps when in real need
As an Indian, I must say that you did an amazing job by providing a holistic view of the foreign policy and the complex geopolitical relationship of India with the West, China and Russia. But one major event that you missed, which apparently made Indo-Soviet relationship more cohesive is the 1971 Bangladesh Liberation War which was fought between India along with the Mukti Bahinis (independence seeking revolutionaries of the then East Pakistan) and Pakistan, where India got a major military support from the Soviets against a dual threat of US and Pakistan.
Tell him to use proper map of India in your comment....he must use the proper map
Am African and I work with Indians. Most Europeans don't realise the Indian nature.
They value honour.
They are problem solving oriented.
And have this natural ability of foresight.
In simple you can't Dingle India as America does to Philippines
I was hoping he'd mention it.
The US bombed the sh@* out of Japan and Germany during WWll and then went on the rebuild both these countries into global economic superpowers. India liberated Bangladesh but till today it continues to languish in poverty.
I wonder how the Kali Ukraine conflict was met by the Indians.
India has been growing as a market for western and in particular US aircraft. India has purchased C-17s, C-130s, Apache, Chinooks and MH-60R Seahawk and P-8 Poseidons.
I was reading somewhere how India and China combined will account for something like half of economic growth for 2023. personally, I feel like it should be a big priority to keep India on favorable terms with the west
@@Taskandpurpose global times
It was a real shame that the C17 production line got killed just as India was about to order 10 more units.
IMO India should have ordered atleast 40 C17s. What a beautiful beast.
It takes two hands to clap. When US proactively supports India’s arch enemy supplying them free military hardware ware which has use only against India. Where will India go for its own military equipment.
they are also #1 in scams....
One of the reasons why India is so dependent on the Soviet Era defence equipment is that the West was comfortable making alliance and supplying state of the art equipment to a military dictatorship until recent times.
As do, and to a larger degree, ruZZia & China. So your point is?
In fact it would be fair to say ruZZIa, China, USA in that order would have less morals & scruples in supplying weapons to undesirable elements hell bent on making life as miserable as possible for average man on the street!
still is and it gave that dictatorship nukes too
@@ydid687 Agreed.
We changed… you are not… it’s that simple… you may be afraid and apprehensive… fine… but as the saying goes… we the people of the west will not forget what India or China or Russia has done. Our newer generations are people you do not want to mess with buddy
@@Acidfox86 you still sell to Israel and Saudi Arabia not much changed
Key point on the oil: India is buying deeply discounted crude, refining it, and selling it on. This in turn keeps the global prices at a reasonable level and prevents Russia from reaping the windfall of soaring oil prices. I think most Western analysts would call this a net positive: deny Russia its most profitable hydrocarbon exports without sending global prices through the roof.
The oil is not deeply discounted, this was a limited time offer for 2 to 3 months only which has long ago since expired
That is a most interesting observation, Drew.
not only that but it supports the economy of the biggest Democratic country in the world ❤❤
That's something hard to understand to some apparently: India doesn't contemplate to be part of the Western, Russian or Chinese block, they inspire to be their own superpower (which is legitimate). I guess the misunderstanding comes from a major factor: all these blocks develloped by conflicting each other, militarily or economically, not India, they don't have this tradition of confrontation, they are a young country and basically had ever conflicts only with Pakistan and China: they see no interest in being in a "for...against..." position... which everyone else stance, they are playing their own side, not anyone else's one.
agree with you as an Indian. One more thing that I will add that India sees Western demands of condemning russia as part of what we call "colonial mindset". If India stays neutral and doesn't give in to the western demands it is seen as a victory of the ruling government and will have effect on the next election.
Yes they have they own people to be big
I foresee India succeeds. US is destroying itself internally, China wont survive without artificial wombs.
Indian civilization is almost 5000+ years old. Not only that unlike American, we are native and original inhabitants of the land that survive 900 years of invasion from Islamic and British people. Our ancestors seen too much conflict and it is India absolute last resort to be part of any block. India will stand on his own. We will work together with our friendly country to accelerate our growth but never be part of something like NATO
@@pixoloanimation8895 yes I know India people from Suriname. You’re
Pride will never loose bro
Talking about India's military policies without mentioning Pakistan is like talking about American immigration policy without mentioning Mexico.
It's in economic competition with China the border skirmishes are largely just bluster... Pakistan however is their single main concern
What about Pakistan? Is the US not allowed to deal with India without also dealing with Pakistan? Pakistan should already be happy with the debt trap it has gotten into with its best friend China😅 after all, was it the same Pakistan that rejoiced over what its leaders called the defeat of the US in Afghanistan?
@@skp8748 what is making Pakistan relevant nowadays are its nuclear weapons. Otherwise it's a paper tiger that can't even feed its own people or pay for other basic necessities. 😂 In the bigger scheme of things, Indian has grown way beyond its issues with Pakistan.
Yeah, that immigration policy where americans have benefitted to make billion dollars economy.
Well said.
Abandoning Russia now would mean sending them, maybe permanently towards China, thereby making China stronger. Other reasons are India is denied certain cutting-edge technologies by the West, on the other hand, Russia has leased an SSBN to India and also offered to partner for the hypersonic missile program. Then there is the issue of the UNSC permanent seat and veto power.
India isnt that dependent on Russia for UNSC vote. France is more than happy to help now.
Who said about India abandoning Russia? Yours is a typical guttural reaction from an Indian Russophile. India has gotten a long way from the days of Nehru when "non-aligned" India was actually in bed with Russia and as India's economy continues to grow and becomes more intertwined with the West, Russia will just quietly fade away into the back ground. Indian weapon systems will slowly and surely become a mix of srdp and locally assembled western systems like the Dassault Rafale or maybe eventually in the future US stealth aircraft as India needs to try to be at some parity with China.
@@karthika560 now but only Russia helped India in the past.
@@siddhuji5868 This generalization is out of place. It would be wiser to specify which Russia, under whose leadership (saying that there is one Russia is only true to the extent of what we see on the map, so no there is no one Russia). Russia has not always been a criminal warm-mongering, criminal state it is today. So, yes, you may say "we Indians need Russia at this juncture of our history, it's politically justified", but justifying your inclination toward Russia by saying "Russia once helped us" sounds ludicrous. It's just like saying I am somehow morally obligated to help a grandson of a man who once helped my grandfather. Yet, it so happens that his grandson is a serial killer. No, no one is under any obligation to help him.
@@siddhuji5868 Why are they Friend's with Pakistan then?
We Indians have carried our civilisational history of thousands of years with us. While we have always been contemporary. It is true that we have lost many times during this thousands of years of history. We have the pain of loosing, without bitterness. We are always contemporary, even today.
Thank Nixon and Kissinger for this one, when India tried to stop the genocide Pakistan was committing in now-Bangladesh, the US actually sent warships to ward off /India/ and support Pakistan, where the Soviets countered the US fleet with their own, cementing what were the "wrong" dancing partners for decades to come. Good thing things are now warming up with India-US relations.
Well, Nixon and Kissinger were huge problem for the western world, just like how Indira Gandhi the egomaniac was a problem for India. Why would emergency even need to be imposed on a democratic system? Talking about Soviet influence !!!, you get the idea.
This wasn't the only instance! US has been a supporter of Pakistan till 2000 . During 1999 Indo-Pak war US supported Pak military dictatorship over India in War. US only stopped after 9/11 after they found out that India isn't going to be the only victim of terrorism in Pakistan. US has very very aggressive and bad geo-politics which is simple sell kerosine to one and match sticks to others and let them light each other on fire for ultimate benefit to US that is the defence export.
@@onionknight5553 Sure, they mad the blunders and so Indira Gandhi too. But she took way too much U turn of national interest to self serve her greed for power.
The only problem was Pakistan wasnt committing genocide, nice story though!
@@HenriHattarlol what?
As an Indian, I appreciate the neutral look toward my country's geopolitical situation when it is very easy to bash India for buying Oil from the other side. Not only you perspective neutral you also managed to explain the nuances of India's complicated Geopolitical situation
You do see alot of Indians seeming to side with Russia on things. What is the interest there?
@@baneh1329 Probably just anyone not American being sick of America being the center of world politics. They'll naturally root for the underdog, which is whoever is against NATO and the US.
Just my theory anyway.
buying russian oil makes india less than neutral, by far.
@@ursodermatt8809 that must make Europe an enemy of Ukraine, yes? Since they've bought 6 times as much in Russian oil/gas since the war began?
It's always good fun watching Indians remind the US and Europe that they're a sovereign nation 😂
A defense relationship with China is like being friends with a scorpion.
the same can be said about the US, who drags its allies into their wars
@@weybye91 that’s not remotely the same thing… China would like to annex part of India.
@@weybye91 I'm definitely not proud of that.
@@weybye91 The US has never dragged an ally into a war. Only 1 ally is Iraq and that was Britain voluntarily because the rest of EU said no. Every other war it was the US helping someone else (Kuwait/saudi, South Korea, South Vietnam/France, Phillepenes) Usually the US has had a coalition of 20+ allies.
"Thee US has never dragged an ally into war"
"Usually the US has a coalition of 20+ allies"
🤦♂️
Trust an American to miss out the most crucial part about USA with Pakistan 👏👏👏
1971 is a major milestone missed & how important the Russian UNSC veto is for India.
As others have mentioned, America's continued military support for Pakistan is the biggest fly in the ointment for India/US relations. The Indians have had American made weapons unleashed against them and haven't forgotten...
Sad but very true
Yea and Biden messed it up even further by leaving weapons in Afghanistan which is turning up at Indian borders!
We dont care much if you supply weapons to those Pakistanis we won anyway.
But it angers US When US Privided funds to Terror Groups meant for Afghanistan but were diverted towards India by Pakistan which targeted Indian Civilians.
Search up about David Headly Ex American FBI official later Turned to CIA and later joined Terror groups
He was the one who provided Intels to Pakistani based terror groups via Pakistani Intelligence ISI about where to do attacks , Spots etc which led to 26/11 Mumbai Attacks .
US is Still not ready to Transfer David Headly for Interrogation by RAW.
And it's all the more ironic that Pakistan has become best buddies with China
India too sensitive.
as a vietnamese, VN's situation with russian arms trading is the same with india's
we are looking for alternatives in places that could have close russian alternatives, like israel, serbia, (surprisingly) south korea, or even india;
recently czech got added in the list with the L-39NG training jets deal (the first airframes are coming to VN this december)
Why not older variants of Leopard tank?
Like Leopard 2a4 or even 2a5 as they are quite cheap and pretty reliable (Price to performance) 😅
As South Korean tanks are expensive
And Israeli tanks are very good but are only suited for their own geographical defense
I don't know much about Indian tanks
Except most of them are imported from Russia and some are hybrid between the West and Russian designs
For your money you can't find anything better than russian. Maybe chinese.
@@sharinganamvs9839 the problem is only big for high-tech products like fighter jets
we only have sukhoi fighters
we dont have much problem with tanks or artillery
we have literal thousands of them in reserve storage, and domestic modernization plans for any of them
@@rinaldoman3331 man, if only we can buy chinese jets like j-10 or the dirt cheap jf-17 assembled in pakistan
if only we dont live next to china and china doesnt take our islands
@@tranquoccuong890-its-orge your government can get some F 16s and probably even F 35s from the US but it may spark aggression for the CCP😅
There's the French Rafael too
And the Eurofighter typhoon (which I would probably not suggest)
Cause they are too expensive
But works almost the same as F 35s
Omg the meme of Modi looking at Biden with Putin angry. I can't stop laughing, I'm dying here. Lol
India has become that one trader from the games that trades with everyone irrespective of their sides or ideologies...sometimes it pays off...while it's hurts the other times....
Trade is in blood of Indians. ! In past we get rich by trade (not by warmongering ) that's the reason why india got looted in last eventually! But not now ! Now we have defence which can beat the shit out of our enemy
Switzerland is model country for india !
Sounds like me in tw: wh.
That's how diplomacy work. Just Making a bloc doesn't mean diplomacy.
It took a page out of America/European book. They have continued to play this double game since last so many decades.
@Task & Purpose A common misconception among foreigners is that India use the exact same export variant of Russian equipment ,whereas Indian used Russian weapons are very different and includes Indigenous systems/subsystems along with foreign made additions . For example
Su 30 used by India are of Su 30 Mki variant which are equipped with Indian, Israeli and French made avionics, Mission computer, Electronics and Communications . Su 30 mki can also fire Meteor and ASRAAM missile along with Indigenous BVR missile Astra .
India is going to replace / is replacing many of the existing Soviet/Russian made weapons with Made in India systems like
Mig 21 and 27 with HAL Tejas MK1 and Mk1a
Osa 9k33 SAM system with Drdo QRSAM
Pechora SAM with Akash SAM
etc...
India has an existing manufacturing base for the production of critical spare parts for regular maintenance of Russian weapon systems .
that's a great point! I've covered India's military modernization about a year ago and there's a lot there I need to dig into and cover in a future video
i have heard of an Indian indigenous attack helicopter completely replacing imported systems due to the hi-altitude / hi-payload requirements along India's mountain regions. Is that a major program or just a smaller support project?
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@@Taskandpurpose India had a good military partnership with the US and UK till 1960. The proof is a joint operation with the CIA in China. A plutonium device (due to unlimited energy) was planned to be put in the Himalayas to monitor China which is still missing to this date.
Then Nixon happened. Nixon hated the Indians and started supplying Pakistan against India and the Chinese against the Soviets. So the Soviets started cozying to india to have multiple fronts for China.
Remember, the Soviets and CIA killed a sitting prime minister of India because he wanted to have an independent foreign policy.
The Soviets started giving jets and tanks to India to power up their military. There were so many Communist in India that they took over all of the institutes and started doing communist crap. The relationship continued till 1991.
Very good point. India wants the tech more than anything. Their next step is homemade. They learned long ago they can’t count on the west. They know they can’t trust China. Russia is the only one left at the table as a supplier willing to share tech.
Another important point is that India has nearly twice Russia’s GDP and it’s about to overtake China in population. They have the resources to become a much larger player in the years to come as their homegrown tech matures.
India is unlikely to enter into military alliances for or against someone. The Indian foreign minister stated that military alliances never resolve the actual problem. He stated that is the reason they don't want to internationalize the border dispute with China.
Keeping conflicts bilateral is what India does best. Pakistan keeps on making noises internationally but India clearly says its bilateral. There were 18 on ground military level negotiations with China after 2020 border clashes where India made it very clear to return to positions prior to the conflict. China can't win war with India nor India can fully win both will suffer major losses and they both know. US tried to prop up India against China after clashes but unlike Ukraine , Indians are not so naive. Narendra Modi is not a stupid or naive leader. He is extremely experienced in politics so the west can't pressure him.🎉
@@poojan423 China can reign Pakistan in if India becomes an ally with China then China can negotiate peace and trade between Pakistan and India.
@@Zarozian pakistan may want peace with india in short term but its ultimate goal is to islamise india and make a single islamic nation encompassing entire south asia.
They feel that the quaranic prophecy of "ISLAMIC CONQUEST OF INDIA" is solely their duty.
@@GAURAV-dm1gm Even Pakistan can see that being allies with India is beneficial in the long term. China can guarantee that it stays that way with Pakistan too if India chooses to ally with China. It is foolish to be enemies with your neighbors!
@@Zarozian u wont understand because u are living in such a country that is surrounded by fellow christian nations.
I will prefer to put is like this--
Its basically like RASHIDUN CALIPHATE being neighbours with the SASSANIAN EMPIRE.
Or the EASTERN ROME being neighbour with OTTOMAN .
no matter what u do ... the other wants to conquer u anyday.
There is a islamic prophesy that like constantinople, india will be conquered near the end of world.
And these Pakistanis think its their responsibility to bring india down & islamise india .
U can google ' GHAZWA- E - HIND" u will get to understand about it.
When America has proved they r not trustworthy India has a right to develop closer economic ties with Russia
India has been very WISE…As an American I support how India has balanced its foreign relations..yes. I totally agree that the threats posed by Pakistan and China is the priority that must be addressed…I totally get it..Thank you for the objectivity and education 👏👏👏
Bhai tu Indian hi hai "as an American" kyu bol Raha hai
@@Seth_Davis888 nri
You are not American.
I'd say India has done pretty well in diversifying their supplier base. Just off the top of my head I can think of India having recently bought, licence-built, or co-developed major platforms or weapons systems from Israel, the US, France, South Korea, and the UK.
Thats a poor decision. Buying arms from multiple countries is the opposite of interoperability.
It is actually was a bad idea. I say that as an Indian.
@@ooo_Kim_Chi_ooo Interoperability is not a big deal, with right intellectual property it can be configured.
@@ooo_Kim_Chi_ooo yea assault rifles share lotta parts with mobile artillery 🤣😂
Hardly, too late and too little. They wasted decades.
India is in a tough spot
To say the least, overpopulation, polution, fucked up military logistics.
Luckily there’s a 5 mile high wall in between them and China
that "wall" is not nearly as high as needed on the eastern parts of India...
@@off_grid_javelinbut Chinese Lilliputs are not well trained and with zero experience compare to their india counterparts
And handling it smoothly.
Don't talk like an expert about something you don't know. India is a peaceful nation surrounded by wolves. Always had a history of keeping defensive attitude until all the nerves were crossed. Now India will be offensive to any threats. Long live India. 🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳
Pretty good big-picture summary. I'm surprised that I don't often see the US-Pakistan relationship mentioned in explanations of why India gravitated more towards the USSR than the West in terms of arms and security arrangements. To massively oversimplify what was a complex, multi-faceted process: In the 1950s-80s the US judged that Pakistan, because of its geographic position was a more crucial cold-war ally than India. Since Pakistan and India had been locked in conflict since the partition of the former British colony, how could that have had any other effect than to push India into closer ties with the USSR? It seems like a very obvious and substantial factor, but I don't often see it mentioned.
Decades later, with so many things changed, it seems like there is much more potential for the interests of India and the US to align. I wouldn't expect the two nations to come running into each other's arms, however. There are good reasons to foster alliance and also reasons to not move too quickly. It'll be interesting to watch that process.
USA accepting Pakistan's offer of friendship over India was a bit foolish in modern perspective yet it made since since India shook hands w the USSR 20 years earlier. India pushed USA into supporting the disaster of a nation -Pakistan.
If you’re an average infantryman, the average infantryman must have a PhD in economics from Harvard. Well played Cappy, you nailed this one 👏🏻
How do you know he's a P.hd?
@@arunj.gnanarathinam1412 it’s called making a point
@@rickbarrington touche. But isn't more into political studies?
A little background story the on India - Russia relation
After the Indian partition in 1947 the U.S funded Pakistan with money and weaponry and didn’t want to sell weapons to the Indians.
Russia was the only country that would sell weapons which was needed for Indian national security.
I hope this helps.
Sorry but you are wrong. India had a good military partnership with the US and UK till 1960. The proof is a joint operations with CIA in China. A plutonium device (due to unlimited energy) was planned to be put in the Himalayas to monitor China which is still missing to this date.
Then Nixon happened. Nixon hated the Indians and started supplying Pakistan against India and the Chinese against the Soviets. So the Soviets started cozying to india to have multiple fronts for China.
Remember, the Soviets and CIA killed a sitting prime minister of India because he wanted to have an independent foreign policy.
The Soviets started giving jets and tanks to India to power their military. There were so many Communist in India that they took over all of the institutes and started doing communist crap. The relationship continued till 1991.
@@Contractor48 I am sorry that is wrong too. In the 1965 Indo Pakistan war the Pakistani military was almost wholly supplied by the US. Patton tanks and F86 sabre accounted for most of their weapons.
Indias dependence on the UK was because most of our equipment was outdated stuff from WW2 left behind by our former colonizers
@@tamberlame27 Richard Nixon was VP of the US from 1953 - 1961. And the Nanda devi operation was in 1965 where India and the US cooperated to spy on China. The Indian PM was assassinated in 1961 by the Soviets and CIA collaboration. Pakistan was funded in 1971 when Nixon was in office 1969- 1973. Before that, 1965 truce was done by the Soviets.
The 1965 war resulted in both India and Pakistan feeling betrayed by the western power. Pakistan moved closer to China and India to the Soviets after that. : Source Wikipedia.
Bruh, where am I wrong?
We kept quiet when u guys invaded Iraq. I think we have earned the right to keep quiet about Ukraine too.
@@subhajit201 I don't know if it's wise to bring up India's opportunistic behavior with Saddam Hussein's Iraq in a conversation on India's "non-alignment." It starts to paint an uncanny picture.
It's amazing what we can do together as human beings who are willing to trust and kept open relationships with one another. Everyone wins more often than not. Good going India.
Very well researched and quite refreshing view from someone from US. Not many westerners empathize with India for its approach on its foreign relations, mostly because they're ignorant on India's geopolitical challenges and threats from its neighbors. There are many factions outside and inside India that are actively trying to split the country in pieces, India approach to foreign relations has been molded from these threats.
Being an Indian I will say this is the best analysis on Indian foreign policy by a western Chanel hats off sir
Still the Indian map is not shown correctly lol.
This is the exact map used by almost all countries except india it's annoying but this is reality unless we take back our Rightful land through diplomacy or military
@@YouDouchebags792 I completely agree with you, however this channel is better off than other channels. For example, GeographyNow shows the entire Arunachal Pradesh region as a "disputed" region, even though there is no logic of Chinese presence there.
One major oversight was he didn't even mention the events of 1971
@@DhimanAhir, the reason is simple brother: Americans don't want to admit their mistake. Even they know they screwed up by supporting the wrong side
Chris, India relationship goes deeper than that with Russia, the US backed Pakistan in weapons for years after partitioning & India had to go to Russia to defend itself, Even when Pakistan was trying to develop a nuclear bomb which was exposed , India eventually created one itself in secret even though closely watched by the US, (there is a good film about it) hence why India has a close relationship with Russia still for tall the support it received
Yes, but you cannot forget that Russia also supplies Pakistan with weapons also.
@@HJJ135 no they don't. In the history of Russia pakistan ties, Russia has only ever sold a couple of helicopters to Pakistan and maybe smaller insignificant weapons. But Russia has never strengthened their ties with Pakistan. Even when pakistani Prime Minister visited Russia during the Ukraine invasion, begging for cheaper oil, they were never given any deal, while india was enjoying cheaper oil way before that
@@HJJ135 westerner try not to confuse Russia with China (impossible)
@@CantoniaCustoms 2asia4u?
@@HJJ135kid better go get proper knowledge before opening your dumb mouth
India will be neutral
It would have been better if you would've mentioned about Indo-pak 1971 war in which USA favoured a military dictatorship called Pakistan and Russia helped India ( the world's largest democracy) . Because of which India and Russia got into a strategic relationship for decades 😊
India is an Elected Democracy in name only. Media which is essential part of democracy does not exist. We are all anti national or other derogatory phrases to silence criticism
It was the Soviet Union, Soviet union ended 1991 so 2 decades. A common mistake people in India do when they support Russia killing, raping, torturing people and occupying land because Soviet Union helped India but the people of India do not support Ukraine defending themself but they were also Soviet Union.
The US supported the wrong side in 1971 due to US paranoia about the Soviets that India had already aligned with and disastrously bad advice from Kissinger who is an idiot or a traitor.
@@stupidburpKissinger is a demon beyond imagination, he was silent on Pakistan 's industrial scale slaughter of Hindus in Bangladesh. This is an inglorious past which is not forgotten by indians
Russia then is different from evil Russia now
So far, one of the most unbiased and educated on Indian thinking by westerner.
This is exactly how we think.
Indians just want to grow economically and have a happy life for ourselves and our future generations.
Nope this is still somewhat biased
He said India's purchase of Russian oil undermines western efforts but he will not point out china's purchase of Russian oil
Hypocracy
At 9:55, India is Rocky and the ussr is Apollo, LOL😅
Look at the map used at 0:01 .
@@vorrdegard2176 You are biased. China cancelled pipe line project with Russia due to war. India playing old trick money has no smell. It's happiness stained in Ukrainian children blood. Back when it was USSR i did participate in few USSR military equipment deals with India. Never seen anything more corrupt then Indian government. "Oh yeah we like Russian tanks but how much will you give me to sign contract".
Don't we all? There is a fence in the world, now. You're on one side or the other. There is no sitting on it.
One thing I would like to mention.
India was also kind of pushed towards Soviet by US and west in 70s.
US chose to support(economically and militarily) a fundamentally Islamic Dictator state over Democratic Secular Republic of India.
One of important event was 1972 war where US came to our doors to attack us with Nuclear armed fleet and we had to make deal with Soviets to make them bring their nuclear subs against US fleet.
That was when non-alignment policy was heavily damaged and India became playground of US soviet games.
India is a power that no country can ignore and so they will not be swayed by any block or country. The relationship between Russia and India is strong because the Russians do not force India to ditch the US while the US tries to force India to ditch Russia. Ditching Russia would mean losing options and placing India firmly under the US.
I don't think Russia is going to have any extra miltary equipment to sell for a long time as they try replace their losses
Funny cuz the west ran out of them faster than Russia did, in fact since last year they were saying Russia was running out of missiles lol.
@@resplandent Well no, Russia hasn't run out of missiles, but that was better than starting to produce missiles with such poor quality that they look more like rockets.
You are very wrong about that.
@@armandoventura9043 Funnily enough they get the job done, compared to ukrainian missiles who for some reason end up in Poland or Moldova.
@Ignition, the west is still supplying ukraine, and nations like Poland 🇵🇱 have expanded their military capabilities t
1:36 I never thought a westerns would be able to understand this critical point like you did , this point has been discussed in many Hindi channel of Geo-political thinkers such as World affairs or Amit Sengupta but you are the first foreign channel to discuss this I think. Well done 👏👏
yeah, i understand indias position, id prefer them to support ukraine, but their history with russia and security concerns makes neutrality a reasonable choice. Plenty of westerners understand that you need to watch more western channels ;)
@@captainalex157 even on the surface normal Indian people prefer Russia over Ukraine because Ukraine has been selling tanks and other military hardware to Pakistan despite India's contentions. Those same weapons are then used by Pakistan for terrorism in Jammu Kashmir.
It's been a NATO and US shill for a long time now. Not to mention how Ukraine voted against India when the matter for jammu kashmir was taken up, the place where Im from. No one here supports Ukraine in any way. It's a hostile nation for the people of jammu kashmir atleast.
Also look up the channel called "Kraut" . Highly recommended.
But they have biased
They think india support usa
As an Indian....i will say this is tough time for Russia....and they helped us in our tough time in 1971.....and we also know that no one can help without their own interest somewhere....may be we also have some our interest so we are with russia with neutral stand..
that help was not of friend ship but strategic interest. if you believe other wise you are living in a fantasy world. in Geo politics there are NO friends.
How about working together with China and trading with them and allow them to help India develop. They'd much rather an ally than an enemy to their south.
Bruh if you don’t know back than I’m 90s there was a saying “Hindi Chini bhai bhai” which meant Indian and Chinese are like brothers until they started betraying us, they helped Sri Lanka you know what happened right? Soon Pakistan ganna meet the same fate
@@ZarozianDon't forget that india is also friend with USA
@@Zarozianthey were frei ds till 1962 then they both fought the war and then den xo ping inclined towards usa and then china grew so fast and got against usa Russia China can't be friends they have fought war in 60s
Average infantryman my foot! You show insight that generals and presidents lack! Thanks for a great show!
I love how this supposedly average infantryman routinely produces such deep and well balanced videos with amazing analysis on a wealth of subjects. Thumbs up man! 👍
For a foot soldier (😂😂) your analysis is amazingly close to reality! Bravo 👏 One more angle. Loyalty and gratitude are Indian values, amongst others. For example teachers are respected for entire life. American arrogant support to dictators especially in Pakistan is in the memory. And so is the Soviet support to start steel industry, Atomic energy installations and Military equipment to fight poverty and Pakistani Pattons and Saber jets. It will be hard to win Indian friendship and trust and even more hard to lose it.
friendship with india is of no benefit to usa except using india against china. us support to pakistan is based on geopolicital importance as pakistan gives us leverage on afghanistan and iran. india is just a potential next china for usa so usa just wants to play china vs india issues
A very good overview and illumination of how India must collaborate with several different nations without disappointing/frustrating them.
it took long time for our ancestors to understand that there are no so called friends or enemies, it just human desires,greed, intrest more... colliding with other humans , imposed on and by others...now is the same it's all geopolitics with greed, ulterior motives....
Well Cappy, I would say you did significantly more than an average presentation on the general historic perspective of India’s geopolitical position in the last 75 years. Congratulations, job well done and thank you, 👍
India, in the end, will grow their economy, the population is extremely young, China and Russia, on the other hand, have an old workforce.
Also Indian food is better
You're largely right.
Pelmeni are fucking goated though
Nah everyone loves their own food and this is ok. For me indian food is too spicy and chinese is strange.
I like how everyone acts like "growing your economy" is like this super easy and inevitable thing and not a massive challenge only a handful of developing countries have really done lol
an extremely young popolation is not always a blessing. It means that a lot of the best ones are leaving the country and also mean lack of specialization and solidity of the economic framework
@@AmirSatt : WHY!?? DON'T YOU LIKE TO EAT BOILED DOG!???🐶
Sounds like India has been following a very wise and prudent strategy. I hope it serves them spectacularly well.
It's alignment with the Soviet Union has slowed it's economic development. Globalization is a product of the US led global order, of which India has not fully reaped. Times are changing however. As India becomes more intertwined in globalization, a lean towards the west becomes inevitable.
U missed the biggest point---US support of terrorism against India by Pakistan! Also, US send a nuclear warship again us in 1971 war. We have a long memory.
And a strong one
You missed a key point: US sent seventh fleet to attack India in 1971 war against Pakistan. But USSR intervened and sent its nuclear submarines to defend India. No Indian will ever forget this. The US also turned us down when we asked for help during Kargil war. We asked for Laser guidance kit for missiles and satellite images, but the US refused. In the end, Israel helped us with those system that were crucial to dislodged Pakistani soldiers infiltrated in Indian territories.
True uSSR not Russia .. uSSR also included Ukraine that time
@@Neilsui0306 but Russia is main character in ussr
@Roshan Chachane
And you missed the reality that it was not Russia who saved India in 1971. The USSR under the order of Ukrainian Leonid Brezhnev who saved India.
@@dartfather Ukrainian under the rule of Moscow. I haven't even mentioned how Ukraine sent arms, ammunition and even radars to Pakistan during the Kargil War.
@@roshanchachane142 The rule of Moscow means nothing! Under an autocratic government, the leader is the KING. The one who gave the order was a Ukrainian.
Western sanctions are confined to EU/G7. There's a reason why there aren't blanket sanctions on Russian oil, fertilizer and grain. India, being the third largest consumer of oil, with little in terms of domestic reserves has few options to take.
Furthermore, Russia isn't confusing India's stance as "standing beside Russia in its war of aggression". Russia is portraying it so, because it suits their narrative for both domestic and international audiences.
I really don't think any of the G7/EU country's leadership wants India to join the oil sanction. Else they wouldn't have used a price cap mechanism on Russia oil. Policy makers seem pretty happy that India is getting access to cheap oil to drive your economy and making the profits instead of the Russians. Its mostly media that is making the noise and frankly media are idiots. Keep buying those Russian oil, they are selling them at a loss for current price levels.
Well, makes it look like India is supporting what is effectively a colonialist war.
Quiete ironic is must say....
Bharat is supporting Rossiya, now and always. Bharat didn't support Iran and abandoned them, which was a mistake in the face of US sanctions. However Rossiya is a red line and the only strong ally Bharat has. USA is inherently treachorous scumbag and no friend of Bharat. And since when has the West hesitated to bully countries if they could get away with it?
With all due respect, but there is no blanket sanctions on Russian fertilizer or grain. And there's only a price cap for oil. There are financial sanctions, insurance sanctions, and technological sanctions, but no sanctions on fertilizer or grains. None that I could find at least.
Is that why India abstain from voting to condemn the invasion in the UN?
A perfectly balanced and accurate analysis from an American who has right understanding of Indian geopolitics and foreign policy.
Was it. He never said how US supported Pakistan and their terrorists. He never said how US sent their navy to attack India and it was Russia who saved India with their nuclear subs. He never said how US attack Modi and tried to charge him. US is no friend of India. They just want India to do all the fighting with China so both be destroyed.
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One thing that was not covered was India's sub-par experience with post soviet Russian Defence Paraphanelia. India purchased INS Vikramaditya Aircraft Carrier from Russia which was mothballed Soviet Missile Cruiser of Gorshkov class. It was offered for around $1.5 billion, deal was signed, payments were made and cost was immediately jacked up to $4.5 billion USD.
Russian Shipbuilder Sevamash Ship Yard issued a threats on the lines of "Pay up $4 Billion or we would fix the ship and hand it over to Russian Navy. Since the payments were done and India was over dependent on Russia that was the worst nightmare for the government of that time. After a lot of back and forth a new deal was worked out, where India paid up more money, delivery was delayed and right before the delivery the ship broke down due to shoddy workmanship in the boilers.
Its not only Indian Navy, IAF operates, SU-30 MKI which come with AL-31 engines which were not thermocline which means that these engines work fine in cold subzero temperatures of Russia but in Hot and Humid and high sea level environment of India these engines used to wear out fast and perform suboptimally. The situation was so dire that Indian scientists had to work on AL-31 Engine, reverse engineer the components, work on new thermal coating for AL-31 engines to make them flight worthy since IAF operates over 250+ SU 30 MKI. Even after doing so much work the availability of the aircraft is only 60%.
You are absolutely right, sir
Correct.
Thanks for doing justice to a complex and nuanced topic by covering how we got here, what it is now and where it is going to head. It is a spot on analysis which is far better done than the tons of talking heads. It is balanced in actually covering the perspective from the Indian side. Finally, it shows clearly where it is headed... Self reliance to pursue its own values and interests rather than the narrow minded -- with us or against us.
Not really, he is trying to balance the viewers points.
Kingly use proper indian map ....i am sure u researched well about india before making video, then why did u use wrong map of india.....
You forgot the 1971 war ☠️ US with pak, Russia with India 🙄... When US sent USS enterprise double the size of Indian carrier 🤨
Unrelated rambling. It was crime to not turn Enterprise into museum ship.
Also George bush called India "A war mongering country" when it's Pakistan that attacked first.
@@TheRezro That's an incident because which most of the Indians still don't trust the US and still think of Russia positively.
It was a major incident where the USSR actually came to India's aid when India was geopolitically isolated and India needed help but there were no allies to help India except for the USSR.
The USSR helped one of the most geopolitically isolated country on the planet despite knowing that it might result in a war with NATO.
@@lmaonoobs3779 I know that. But the problem is that Russia is not the USSR. Russia is last Colonial Empire. When early USSR was largely controlled by Ukrainians. Supporting geocidal Russians is supporting wrong side in this case.
@@TheRezro In simple words, Russia is carrying on the legacy of the USSR whereas Ukraine has chose completely different path where it clearly doesn't align with India and has condemned India ocassionally in support of India's enemies and they now expect us to condemn Russia which has supported us on almost every single issue be it the removal of Article-370 or be it our war with Pakistan in 1999.
Supporting Ukraine is senseless but at the same time supporting Russia is not good either. Just stay neutral and let's not interfere in their bilateral issues.
Russia isn't a colonial Empire. It's simply something that you want to call them as.
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I never understood the anger of sovereign countries making deals that are best for them. The US can and will do the exact same thing, often upsetting other countries along the way. I don't think them buying Russian oil will really make a dent in the long term decline of Russia due to numerous economic and demographic issues, and they can use that benefit to develop as a counterweight to China, and possibly even eclipse them eventually as that regions superpower. Long story short lose the battle of Russian gas but win the war of a long term regional partner.
As an Indian,the us and most other us aligned European countries will decline as soon as the European population lose their majority status. Without an European culture and outlook,the west will be a mess. Russians will still have Russia. Demography is destiny.
I think you need to define Russians and Russia in general. The majority of Russians live in the European corridor, but have the worst demography. The majority or Russian recourses are out east. Russians in the sense of the traditional Slavic Europeans won't have enough manpower to hold the recourse rich far east Russia, and so in that sense Russians won't always have Russia. As far as the US goes, the country is a pretty homogenous society with abundant recourses as well. Throw Canada into the mix, and they have just about every recourse they need to be self sustainable. I can see them going the route of Japan becoming a more isolationist but highly developed country. I don't see the full back slide taking place as in Russia. Will the US lose their superpower status, yes I think its inevitable. But that doesn't come from a decline in standard of living so much as a self induced pull back towards isolationism.
@@rassilkrishnan3120you don't seem to know the Russian demography then. 130 million people (Europe is 600 mil, US is 360 mil). And those 130 mil will be 90 mil in 20 years. Russias Economy os even smaller than the spanish economy.
yeah you mean the EU that does not haev a strong sense of identity whether it is religious, ethnic or otherwise. A multicultural, non-European 'EU' won't be offering a coherent worldview for themselves to follow, let alone present a military or a foreign policy and I say this as a non-white person, an indian. A confused state or superstate will be breaking at the seams and suffering from the problems of multiracialism, multiculturalism and multireligious society which promotes diversity rather than forcing unity to a culture,religion,etc. France,Britain and many others will be facing this problem. Neoliberals, conservatives and liberals keep denying it.@@terribrad24
_”It all makes perfect sense if you don’t think about it.”_ Lol too true. Most geopolitical issues I understand, but India’s situation gives me migraines. But I agree, it’s way past time that the world’s oldest democracy and the world’s largest democracy were more closely aligned.
Ya and once in the past... The "world's strongest democracy" tried to destroy "world's largest democracy"..and.. More over "world's strongest democracy" aligned itself with an dictatorship just in the neighbour of largest "world's largest democracy"... Soo i hop this information would help to prevent your headache a little... 😊.... And Ya the year was 1971...
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Neither country has the first idea of what that word actually means 🤨
@@MKR5210 if not these two, which country on earth knows democracy ? China ???😂😂
China would falter just as hard as Russia has. The real question is; does India have the integrity to be what it aspires too? The fact it’s the largest democracy in the world makes me think that it has the structural integrity on many levels to achieve this. I hope it does. The world has been waiting for a true super power worthy of the name.
The second Task Force 74 was assembled from the U.S. Navy's Seventh Fleet that was deployed to the Bay of Bengal by the Nixon administration in December 1971 during the Indo-Pakistani War. The fleet was sent to intimidate Indian forces at the height of the conflict.
that is what led to Indian citizens not liking the US because when India was at war against Pakistan US and their ally sent their navy to India only Russia came forward to help India at that time that why no one Like US
Sounds like India’s leader has an “India First” policy. As he should
For a average Infantry man like you, this is the most accurate analysis of Indian Foreign Policy that no one can give. Even the big mouths of various think tanks. Great work.Congrats. Best wishes.
If you don’t realize this nice man is supplying data from CIA and military intel channels, and likely has their staffing support to produce this channel, you are not paying attention carefully. I agree, the content and quality and sheer mass of production he delivers is impressive. It is also far beyond the capacity and capability of a person who is not deeply supported by a government agency. The “lack of bias” you observe is a testament to the high quality of intel based on decades of country studies.
How ironic they will never talk about 1971
With all due respect, a $500M aid package is just a fart for a country that has a an annual $80B defense budget. I doubt that the Indian government is paying much heed.
US aid packages are basically line of credit. You need to return the money back sooner or later but can only buy equipments from them.
As an Australian Military veteran, I'm keen to see greater co-operation between India and the US, Australia, Japan and other western aligned countries, but I see their reasons for wanting to walk the line of isolation.
Also the little 'love triangle' photo op at 17:25 with Modi, Putin and Xi you see the common Paddington bear image of Xi showing boredom or disdain at needing to pose with other world leaders.
Here is the brutal honest ans which hardly any Indian will say, but will do and then u will feel surprised.
Indian won't help any country, be it Taiwan, urs or any other from China. Untill it is necessary for us.
We will never be an ally of any country, ever.
The concept of multi-allignment policy is only till we grow in economics and millitary terms. After that you won't be hearing these words.
If china would make peace with us, we would form an alliance with china and Russia instead of western powers.
To think that India will always fight west war with china whenever the time requires, is another dumb dream of u western people. It's equivalent to the same thing where u were made a fool out of u by Pak when Afghanistan invasion started.
Thinking that democratic country will always oppose authority and spread democracy worldwide doesn't fit in India. If china makes peace with us , we won't even bother about their regime and their doings on uigur Muslims etc. No one in India cares who dies and lives outside their territory.
@@abhimanusingh66 Arey bhai, inn sab vishay ko usko bolne ka kya upayog hain?
@@abhimanusingh66Your idea of what we believe in the developed nations, is also quite funny.
@@abhimanusingh66and europeans here arent actually fighting china, nobody cares. In amerika things might be different, but that is also due to how the ccp looks at amerika
@@abhimanusingh66 hi paxi bot.
Dear Cappy, this is a late reply, but you need to be corrected. India post Independence was buying British & French weapons. We had Vickers tanks, Mystere jets etc. But after that India started the NON Aligned moment as the world was divided into American block and USSR block, but the west looked at NAM as "if you are not with us, you are against us" India was a socialist Democratic country, so ideologically it went closer to Soviet union. thus all the weapons in India were Russian. The cars were japanese, German, Italian (FIAT) and few local indian brands inspired by British cars. In 70s most companies were nationalised, foreign companies left India. In 1990s India changed to market economy, thus different countries started investing. But still the west was not that eager to sell weapons to India further there was a flawed model of purchase. If you look at say top of the line planes, Russian plane might be 10 million, the Western plane might be 25 million, so automatically as per the tender the Russian plane would win, sometimes Russia might subsidize the price to ensure they got the deal and support of india.
this model of purchasing lowest price plane, was a flaw, which Indian MoD started to understand, and rather than merely go on purchase price, they went for life cycle cost. So its price of plane, spares for 40 years, maintenance etc, also availability rate. For example a Russian Su-30MKI would require upto 10-12 engines for its lifetime of say 40 years. IAF flies 240 hours a year, that makes it 9600 hours, Engine lifetime of AL-31FP is about 1500 hours, but on other hand, western engines are expensive, but their lifetime is about 6000-10000 hours. so for what one might need 10-12 russian engines (twin engine planes so upto 6 changes) will need 1 change for western plane for its lifetime, thus 2 engines. also western engines are modular, hence the faulty module is replaced with good one, & the plane is ready to fly, when the plane is flying the faulty module is repaired. thus even with fault in engine, its identified, the faulty module replaced and the plane is ready to fly. The Russian engine has to be opened the fault identified and repaired, thus the plane either is grounded or an extra engine that is in stock has to be used to fly. Thus western fighters have higher availability rate as compared to Russian ones. Russian planes are cheap to buy, but in 40 years they end up costing twice the price of Western planes.
so now India is not going for the cheap price, but for weapon that is effective & offers better lifecycle cost for period of say 40 years for plane.
All true yet one key thing was cleverly phrased causing NATO nations to distrust India. "Nationalized" means India stile private property, factories built by western owners, then gave them over to politically connected locals as gifts, with expectations of greater support.
That's how some families in India became Uber rich while oppressing 750 million citizens via extreme racism (also abhorrent to most westerners).
How can u trust mega racists who stole your property, buy weapons from your biggest enemy, support your enemy politically & mirror their economic system after your enemy?
Early India was only barely, not communist.
Your aircraft knowledge is impressive. I didn't know that stuff.
@@davidfisher5140 Well you are factually incorrect, seems you are still living in 70s.
Nationalisation took place in 70s, companies like Coca cola left India, they returned back in 90s and thriving now. Whatever the companies were nationalised then, there were not many that were used. The fact is that to run a company not only need factories and people but strategies. Which country is not racist? But in India we accept the differences and move on, unlike west which is left talking about racism, giving rise to new "movements" which actually disturb everything that was to be positive. West should definitely not talk about racism I mean each day there are racially motivated murders in the west, not in India.
The fact is that in 60s USA found it more easy to work with Pakistan than with India. So Pak was buying USA weapons, we purchased from the competitor and they work well. I mean battle of longewala, the top USA tank Patton in brigade was utterly destroyed by company of indian soldiers. In politics there are no enemies only interest, so if west takes their interest, we shall take ours. you should stop whining and get over it, that might help. Further whatever policies we had, we are not top 5 economy, so nothing we complain of, wonder why you are crying?
@sachi ... You contradict yourself. Nationalization by definition is theft from private owners by government. It is a key reason why Africa has difficulty getting major industry investment, bc many times in the past once the west in est3r, they stole it, then ran it into the ground destroying the stolen business through incompetence. India competently managed the stolen properties.
Racism? Your poor understanding comes from media manipulation. USA has the least racism in the world (nearly so). India's racism is the Brahmans manipulating all others against ea other. 100yrs of Hindi history keeps over 50% of the population in legislated extreme poverty, effective slavery. It 5ook a long time for USA get past that, 200yrs, but we did. Then equal rights followed not long thereafter.
I really like India despite its massive problems with race & religion. But if ppl like you can lean to listen to those better educated & experienced, your country could be improved much more rapidly. BTW, I root for India overtaking US software industry. Bc our software ppl are actually 3nemi3s of USA seeking to destroy USA from the inside while also stealing from other nations (yours included).
Many misunderstand India. One thing not stated often is the irrational fear & hatred of "colonizers." Irrational beliefs harm India. U aren't blessed by a rat peeing on you & it should be common to safeguard food from pests. India could become a vast powerhouse if a few fundamental changes are made. Hint: rats & dalits
Oops! Sorry for that typo. 1000 not 100. Yes I know about the 4k history but co sidereal only the past 1000yrs since it takes a while for ideas to spread.
Apart from the mentioned and commented points, I believe that there is a well known emotional support for Russia from Indian public because of its role in '72 and '99 war. It's not like India did not ask the west for help during those wars, but it received help from Russia. It will always be apparent to India that the current military alliance interests from the west is for serving their own geopolitical interest rather than humane interests.
Why did the US ever support Pakistan? Should have supported democratic India. Stupid move.
Exactly! We would have much closer to u guys.
I like this series of intermittent foreign policy deep(ish) dives, the Myanmar one was also very good. If you could explain to me what Wagner/Prigozhin is (has been) doing in Africa, that would also be interesting.
we're working on several rundowns for Africa right now !
India's neutral stand is very wonderful to see it.
Great synopsis Chris, all inclusive, well laid out, very nuanced, and thoroughly concluded. I learned a lot! Thanks😉
India has been more and more wary about Russian weapons. They had "problems" before the war in Ukraine, now, they seem outdated.
This is why they envision buying more "rafales" for their carrier and air force, rather than Sukhoi.
Su-30 MKI is on its way to be upgraded with indigenous avionics. Will be among the most advanced 4.5 generation aircraft in the region. Upscaled Uttam AESA radar, DRWR, Jammer, etc all in the works. The fleet is to be upgraded in two phases. Upgrades have likely already begun. MKI uses far superior avionics and weapons systems to its Russian counterpart.
The 'problem' is blown out of proportion. Those weapons has so far was able to fend off 'technological superior weapons' from all the western countries put together.
@@mohamadazam9625 Huh ? Where ? When ?
@@mecha-sheep7674 I guess he's talking about India's previous wars with Pakistan whose entire arsenal was made up of Western weapons, not so long ago. As of now, Chinese and Turkish weapons are the major contributors to Pakistani military.
@@varun2250 The last real war was in 1971... And in Kargil conflict, India won the conflict through the use of Mirage 2000 while its Mig-21 got shot down...
We will made everything by our own.
Not immediately but definately. ✊🇮🇳
I will not buy an Indian-made car
We don't use the word ally. Just partner.
As an Indian I would say you have put our point of view brilliantly , Everything was on point .
one thing I wanna mention is that rather than saying India shouldn't align with Russia or should not buy Russian oil west should take steps for being closer a closer ally of India , the more you come closer to India , more we will reduce our dependence on Russia