Uberti 1860 Army Conversion
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- Опубликовано: 25 авг 2024
- Shooting blackpowder is a lot of fun but traditionally time consuming and can take a lot of cleanup. Converting your reproduction revolver with the help of Taylor's & Company can solve these issues.
China Grove NC here. Love BP revolvers ever since I got my first from EMF through the mail way back in 1976, an 1860 Army brass frame .44. Now I have quite a few in my collection, some conversion but most not. Just ordered a Kirst conversion with loading gate for my 1860 Army .44 snub nose. Great vid!
No big deal but as I machinist I feel the need to let you know those are digital calipers not micrometers!
What kind of ammo do u need for this pistol conversion?
@@stargod3064 .45 Colt (light cowboy loads only). I believe it is best to use lead projectiles, not jacketed.
@@stargod3064 I own one and takes cowboy action 45colt. Just make sure it's lead and under 900fps. You can reload them and push it to about 1000fps but anything more is too much pressure.
@@jumpkickman1993 thanks for the reply, Do you know of a shop that sells empty capped cartridges so I can load myself? I looked on gunbroker but not sure if those empty cartridges are the correct ones or even how to distinguish which empty cartridge will work in it? Just any cowboy cartridge?
I have the same basic setup for my Uberti 1851 Navy "London" model in .36 caliber. This allows me to shoot .38 specials (my reloads) using the conversion cylinder. I purchased my revolver and the conversion cylinder at he same time from MidwayUSA. Great fun!
John W i have one for my Pietta Navy too. Unfortunately, the bore for .36 is too wide for the rifling to grab the .38 spl (or .38 long colt in my case) round so accuracy is not that great. Unless you get heeled bullets or shoot hollow based wadcutters
I have purchased two for my 58 remingtons and they fit perfect.taylors is definitely a great place to get em.just ordered a 60 snubnose army and will be getting a conversion for that too.
I have the sheriff's model but made by pietta. I ordered the kirst gated cylinder and hD the gunsmith install it. He did nice work. Haven't shot it yet though.
I need to try out cartridge conversions sometime, seems like a fun option.
if the cylinders were maybe $100 that would be cool but $240 it's too much
Yeah, if you’re buying the pistol and the cylinder then it would be a little pricey. I got the pistol for free so the cylinder to me was a no brainer. Thanks for watching!
Not too bad if you consider you are getting a center fire pistol with no paperwork
@@ncshootist do a video on how to get free pistols please.
I wish I knew how to get free pistols. This one was a Christmas gift a few years back.
Does this have a lot of stopping power? Just using the stock black powder how much flesh could it penetrate I wonder 🤔 probably not enough to make an exit wound I assume?
Only certain cowboy loads fit in their anyways which sure is safety precaution from the manufacturer
I usually have to seat the bullets down just a hair to get the cartridges to fit.
Great video - thanks
Man... That gun is beautiful! No frame acrossed the top looks super clean but makes me nervous with .45 lc
Thanks! It’s meant for “cowboy loads” in 45LC so there’s nothing to worry about with the reduced pressures.
@@ncshootist I'm looking into one right now! kind of wanting to go with a Taylor cylinder though, I'm thinking i might need a couple of 1860s so i can have a Kirst too
mine uses .45 Colt "Short" (AKA .45 cowboy Action special) and have just as much fun with a lot less powder.
Howell is a great one,,,Kirst is also great...
I watched this on double speed and it still felt like it was in slow motion
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Howell 45Cal Conversion Cylinders Firing Pins hitting frame when cycling on a Uberti Army Colt 44Cal Black Powder Revolver. Any suggestions???
Great tutorial on the installment of a conversion cylinder in a Colt revolver. I have one on my Remington 1868 (think 1858 pistol as a carbine, that's the 1868 model). The conversion cylinder makes the weapon almost too fun. I'm thinking about getting one for my Walker and one for my Remington 1863. Anyways, two thumbs up on the video.
Thanks Ken! I need to see if anybody has a video on the carbine; I don’t think I’ve ever seen one in action.
@@ncshootist I've been thinking of doing one. I'm just waiting for my local range to open up again.
Great video but at the beginning you should have shown how to take the barrel off. Other than that great 👍 video
I would go for a real cartridge conversion pistol. As said below, costs the same as pistol/cylinder but far less hassle and wear with constant disassembly/reassembly. Also gives me a reason to pick up another set of pistols! My first 38 Special (S&W K-15 Combat Masterpiece) revolver was purchased when a friend gave me a box of ammo. Needed SOMETHING to shoot that ammo with!
If I was buying the pistol new, I probably would have gone with a proper conversion. But since I got the pistol as a Christmas gift I only had the cost of the cylinder to deal with. So I have a blackpowder pistol and a cartridge pistol for less than the price of a new blackpowder revolver! Thanks for watching and commenting.
I wish you had shown us how you load ammo in it.
Future video! I actually have a range now and don’t have to travel 90 minutes to get to one.
Try using 45 Schofield rounds. It's like shooting a 38 in a 357
Thanks John. With the weight of the revolver, the 45 LC is a kitten to shoot.
@@ncshootist I own 10 B/P revolvers and 3 rifles love shooting them all. Plus a Ruger Old Army with a conversion. Love the boom . John
love this Army conversion for that cylinder but you did not show us how you loaded it that would be great too if you could do that by making another video loading the 45 Long Colt rounds into the cylinder to show us how easy it is now ,to be loaded. 😊😊
Thanks for the feedback Emmett. I should be posting another video in the next day or two showing how to load the cylinder and then install in the pistol.
Do we really need someone to show that. We all know how to load a conventional revolver, unless your a rookie shooter. In that case, educate your self, ask questions when you buy one. If you can't figure it out after that, you don't have any business having one.
Would this work for an 1851 Colt Navy.44 brass frame?
It’s a different model, but they do make one for the 1851
taylorsfirearms.com/hand-guns/cartridge-conversions.html?cat=89
No brass frames
How do you load the cartridges? You have disassemble the pistol and reassemble each time?
Yes, unfortunately. It’s kind of a pain.
That's the way to go
That is a fantastic piece
Thanks!
Not a precision mic. Sir
Do these conversion cylinders require a background check or are they like buying any other gun part?
Just like buying any other gun part.
Nope no ffl your solid
Man cool. Have you made a video of you shooting this? I'm lookin to get one of.these in 36
I need to do a video of black powder and the conversion cylinder for this but we’re in the middle of a move and I’m stuck in an apartment with everything packed away. Hopefully by this summer. Thanks for watching!
That is calipers not a micrometer. Yes I'm a machinist.
Do you need to have a certain frame for this conversion? Or does it matter?
+Tyler Tapp Not sure what you mean by certain frame?
I have been reading up on black powder and conversion cylinders. I have found that steel frames are better to use than the softer, brass option. hopefully this answers your question.
Do not use Brass Frames with conversion cylinders
These are all steel frames though I’ve never seen a brass of this model.
Do they make any other caliber cylinders ? Like maybe 44-40 ?
As far as I know, they only offer 45LC/45 Schofield
Correction, .make .38 long colt as far as I know.
Do you need a pistol permit or background check to buy the cylinder?
All you need is a credit card
He answered this around 6 minutes into the video.
I can’t get my wedge out
Try tapping it out with a wooden dowel or the plastic handle of a screwdriver.
Do they have conversions cylinder for the 1861 pieta
They might but I’m not sure. Check out the Taylors & Co website.
First of all I own many of those conversion cylinders they will not fire a 45 Long Colt they take 45 Schofield a 45 Long Colt sticks out the end of a cylinder
And you would be wrong
www.taylorsfirearms.com/uberti-1860-army-revolver-conversion-cylinder-45lc-cnv-1129.html
Hello i have "3 clicks" when i arm the dog, 1 click for semi armed "2nd clicks" the barret and trigger are blocked and the last 3rd click is armed...what is the "2nd clicks"??
Azilux Torv it allows u to rotate cylinder freely as well as dissassemble the gun
Whats the barrel Length on that revolver?
8” of cold blue steel. It really helps to tame any recoil; in fact it’s probably the softest shooting gun I own.
Im about to purchase this exact gun. Itll be my first one. Any pointers?
Are you shooting black powder or conversion cylinder?
@@ncshootist conversion
Does it mean you should remove the cilinder to put cartridges inside?
Yes, it’s a pain but you do have to remove the cylinder to load it.
What type of ammo would work best for an 1860 army conversion cylinder?
Be sure to use “Cowboy Action” loads with conversion cylinders. I’ve had good experiences with Fiocchi’s 45 Colt ammo but I also reload using powder coated lead and HP-38 powder.
You almost have to reload your own, 200 grain. I shoot 454 ball in my brass. The problem is cylinder length. ....I haven't found factor cowboy that will fit. I reload down, 800 are below
can you put the cylinder on a 1851 navy colt .44
Taylor's & Company makes a lot of conversion cylinders, but it looks like for the 1851 Navy they only make cylinders for .38 LC. www.taylorsfirearms.com/hand-guns/cartridge-conversions/1851-1861-navy-conversion-cylinders.html You may be able to find another company like Howell or Kirst that makes one.
The 1851 Navy 44 can use the 1860 conversion cylinder in 45LC
Question do you have that link I didn’t see it in description
taylorsfirearms.com/hand-guns/cartridge-conversions/1860-army-conversion-cylinders/uberti-1860-army-revolver-conversion-cylinder.html
I can load paper cartridges faster than i could reload brass cartrudges in that pistol. Kinda pointless.
The Colt style of these is a PITA.....always having to take the barrel off to reload.....wear on the wedge from repeated removal. My Remington R&D cylinder is much faster. If I were to go with a Colt style, I think I would get the Kirst Konverter and grind a loading port at the right side of the receiver.
I have to carry a wooden dowel with me when I shoot it just to be able to take it apart. I haven't heard of the Kirst Konverter, but I'll take a look into it. Thanks for the feedback!
Part of the fun of installing the cylinder. Take your time, be patient, enjoy the process. Then you can say, "I did it myself".
Do you think you have to shoot unjacketed ammo because of the barrell?
I could probably shoot jacketed ammo, but most all 45 Colt for this style revolver uses lead bullets. Plus, the lead will give in the barrel more than jacketed,
Again, lead bullets move down the barrel with greater ease and less pressure than jacketed bullets.
The design of the gun frames limits the working pressures.
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where can I order one of those for a Uberti .
taylorsfirearms.com/hand-guns/cartridge-conversions/uberti-1860-army-revolver-conversion-cylinder.html
And how do you plan to load this
I’ve got another video on my channel on how to load the conversion.
Have you tried shooting Blackpowder cartridges out of it?
A couple of times but I prefer the conversion cylinder.
How about a 45 colt loaded with 35 grains of goex, I heard original BP loads were pretty stout. Was curious it this setup could handle 30-40 grains behind a 255 gr bullet.
Love the videos keep up the good work !
I appreciate it. We’re in an apartment for a few months, so my guns are packed away. I’ll try to do a video on black powder when we get settled in to our new place.
@@TheSkinnyMechanic
You can, but getting a full 40
grains into a modern 45 colt shell would have to be compressed alot.
The old brass balloon head cases could hold 40 grains...try 35 grains with a bit of compression, using a card wad. Best to use special black powder lube cookie or on th2 bullet, it will keep the fouling soft and down a bit.
@@TheSkinnyMechanic
The black poedwe loads are fairly powerful and produce better velocities with far less chamber pressure than modern smokeless powders.
but how do you load the cylinder
I’ve got another video on loading. Be sure to check it out!
@@ncshootist Thank You, I'll be sure to check it out
and how it is loading?
It’s very slow
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I’m sorry to have to correct your video but 1860 army revolvers do not have a navel scene on the cylinders. The 1858 Navy revolver has a navel scene on it.
And you would be wrong
taylorsfirearms.com/hand-guns/blackpowder-revolvers/1860-army-collection/1860-army-charcoal-blue.html
www.guns.com/news/review/gun-review-ubertis-colt-1860-army-black-powder-revolver-video
Can i use 45 long colt home defense rounds
Not in these. You’ll need “cowboy” loads instead. Only the newer frames can handle the higher pressure loads.
@@ncshootist ok thanks for info
@@ncshootist i want make kirst coversion
@@ncshootist what company make affordable cowboy ammo
i wish everyone would stop saying long colt, its just 45 colt, there never was a short colt
.45 ACP could be considered the short Colt. It’s just one of those names that has stuck; it doesn’t bother me too much.
why only 5 shots?
I'm not sure but that's the way it was designed. Maybe they had problems trying to fit 6 firing pins and the index pin on a cylinder?
Because the 45lc is to large for the frame to run six. The cylinder walls would be too thin causing it to explode.
Also, load 5 not 6 even in the ones that have six chambers.....safety reasons...you don't want the hammer resting directly on the firing pin and cartridge primer.
Not enough room
It history do with flange on the cartige being to big to put 6 in and make them fit nit big enough around.
Exactly why I have interests in learning to be a machinist. 3D printing is for weebos and nerds who action figures for table top gaming.
The large screw head on the right side of your pistol is in backwards. It should have the head on the left side. Good video though. 😎
It came that way from Uberti. Look up Uberti 1860 Army images and you’ll see the screw head on the right side.
That is for a shoulder stock. There is also a cut out in the back of the frame to accommodate the stock.
No you can't put them in backward.. Those are stock screws.Found on ARMY revolvers. Do your homework then make informed comments.
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"Let the hammer down easily"? LOL! You mean easy. Is English your first language? Sorry, I just had to. BTW, nice video.
Easily is an adverb which describes the action of letting the hammer down. bfy.tw/Gzp5