How to Open and Upgrade a Ryzen-Based HP Pavilion Gaming Desktop
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- Опубликовано: 26 дек 2018
- In this video, I show you how to open the case for an HP Pavilion Model 690-0024. We'll take a look inside this Ryzen 5-based gaming desktop, which is compact in size but has some room for upgradeability. I'll dismantle the case and the inner cage to assess how much you can upgrade in terms of processor, graphics card, memory and storage.
I will maintain a list of components that have been successfully upgraded below.
► CPU
Thanks to Josh Patterson: integrated graphics on the Ryzen dedicates a portion of system memory w/o giving you the ability to disable the APU in BIOS!
Thx to Brendan Bone: upgraded to Ryzen 5 2600 - had to "stick w/ the stock CPU heatsink/fan that came with the PC as the mount points on the... motherboard don't seem to be standard."
Will: installed Ryzen 5 1600. Had to keep stock cooler. "After changing the CPU and reapplying Artic MX4 thermal paste, temps were much better."
Sean Marcisin: upgraded to Ryzen 5 2600 which gives back the missing 2GB RAM
Samuel Sanmartin: upgraded Ryzen 3 2200G to Ryzen 7 2700 on a Pavilion 690-0010 which gives back missing RAM
Jake Wagner: upgraded from Ryzen 5 2400g to Ryzen 5 1600 AF on a 690-0024
scaR: upgraded from Ryzen 5 2400G to Ryzen 7 2700 on a 690-002la
►Graphics
Thanks to Richard Burns: installed EVGA GeForce GTX 1050 Ti SC 04G-P4-6253-KR in a 690-0067c
Thx to Stephen Craig: on a 690-0067c, upgraded from RX550 to RX580 (HP part 936246-001)
peyton: on the 690-0024, upgraded to ASUS GeForce GTX 1660 (PH-GTX1660-O6G) but needed 6-to-8 pin power adapter
Samuel Sanmartin: on a 690-0010, upgraded RX550 to ZOTAC GeForce GTX 1060 Mini, ZT-P10600A-10L
Scarfox: on a 690-002la, upgraded 1050Ti to a GTX 1650 XLR8 OC
Jake Wagner: upgraded RX580 to GTX1660 Super on a 690-0024. Power cable already included 2-pin addition to 6-pin.
epc: upgraded RX550 to MSI GTX 1650 Super Ventus XS OC. Stock HP power supply can handle it. The new card is more power efficient, but the system as a whole generates more heat.
Kevin Kim: upgraded the RX580 to RTX 2060 GAMING Z 6G on a 690-0024 - a very tight fit.
Pegr16: upgraded to a Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1650 Mini ITX OC 4G on a 690-0067c.
Jon Kingsbury: upgraded to a Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1660 SUPER Mini-ITX OC 6144MB GDDR6 on a 690-0022na (while upgrading to a 512GB SSD, a 500W PSU, and adding 8GB - please see pinned comment for more)
MaxWoodJoe: upgraded to a PNY 1GeForce GTX 1650 Super XLR8 (Model VCG16504SSFPPB-O) on a 690-0024. 6-pin power cable already had an extra 2 pins. Had to remove the small black clip from the bay cage or else there isn't enough room.
PinoyPhantom: upgraded to Gigabyte 1070 Mini ITX (GV-N1070IXOC-8GD) in a 690-0067c. Pretty tight fit because the 6+2 pin connector stuck out (needed to upgrade PSU - see pinned comment)
RobotVM: upgraded to MSI Ventus RTX 2070 in a 690-0034 while upgrading to a 500W PSU.
Justin Nguyen: upgraded to EVGA 1650 super SC ULTRA 04G-P4-1357-KR - a tight fit and had to remove the cage.
viper20396: upgraded to an EVGA GTX 1660 TI SC Ultra (Model 06G-P4-1667-KR) in a 690-0084. 400W PSU already had 8-pin connector.
Chris: upgraded to an ASUS TUF 1660 ti though I'd recommend the RX 6600 in 2022. Make sure you purchase a 6 to 8 pin cable adapter since you only have one 6 pin. It may not fit at first but there will be a lever to remove a small black piece on the bottom of the black HDD + DVD drive black cage. Remove that and you are all set. Temps were much lower and you can barely hear the computer. The 1660ti maxed out on 65 deg while the RX 580 maxed out on 88 and throttled. I also was able to OC mine pretty highly. CPU temps were a bit hotter due to the size of the GPU there was less airflow in the case and performed a tad bit slower.
►Memory
The following were use to add to the existing stick of memory.
Thx to Josh Patterson & Joe Tavarez: RAM out-of-the-box is Samsung M378A1K43CB2-CTD
Thx to Lance Striker: RAM OOTB is an SK Hynix H5AN8G8NCJR
Thx to tinmania & MaxWoodJoe: Crucial 8GB CT8G4DFS8266
Thx to Will: GSkill 8GB F4-2666C19S-8GIS
Thx to viper20396: added Crucial RAM 8GB CT8G4DFRA266 in a 690-0084
►Replacement Memory
The following were used to replace the original memory:
Thx to Cloak & Family Rose: 32 GB Crucial (2 x BLS16G4D30CEST)
Brendan Bone: 2 x 8GB Corsair (CMK16GX4M2A2666C16)
ChrizPlayz: 16GB Samsung (M378A2K43CB1-CTD)
Sean Marcisin: 2 x 16GB (Crucial BLS2K16G4D30AESC)
RobotVM: 2 x 16GB: Crucial (CMK32GX4M2A2400C16)
►PCIe x1 Slot, Case Fan, DVD Cover, M.2 SSD, Power Supply
Please see the PINNED COMMENT for info about the PCIe x1 Slot, Case Fan, DVD Cover, M.2 SSD, & CPU Fan.
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Great overview. I appreciate reviews of computers but knowing the internals and upgradability for these pre builts are really helpful. Thanks.
I will be maintaining a list of components that have been successfully upgraded in the description. If you have had any success stories, please comment below and I will gladly add your experience to this list. A big thank you to all my viewers and subscribers!
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Due to popular demand, I've made some measurements on the video card (which has also been updated in the description under "Graphics"). The length of the RX 580, measured from the back of its plate to the edge of the card, is 7 1/16". The length of the case is *approximately* 10" - in other words, that would be the longest card that can fit. I didn't measure the width of the RX 580 but it's the standard width of a card that takes two slots.
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► Please note that there is no need to remove the DVD cover as shown in the video.
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Thx to Ye Wang: No need to pry the DVD cover "like you did there on 2:25, instead [it] has a black plastic quick release tab (seen in 1:43), you can press it in and push the entire optical drive out of the front panel..."
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Also: thx to tinmania: "HP recommends: Before removing the drive cage, unplug the two cables connected to the rear of the optical drive, press the lever on the rear of the drive, and simply slide it out to the front (no screws). Reverse when reassembling."
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► A note about the PCIe x1 Slot.
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Thx to jofrejkd: You can't use the PCIe slot to install a sound card if you use an NVMe in M.2 slot: "To be clear, the port can be used if... using sata drive... The M.2 NVMe is faster because it actually steals the PCIe ports pipeline... if you install a sound card, it will show it in device manager but the system won't find it" See jofrejkd's comment for workaround.
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►M.2 SSD
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Thx to tinmania: HP's site lists SSD as NVMe but is actually SATA (MZNLN128HAHQ-000H1). Replaced it w/ a 500GB Crucial NVMe SSD (CT500P1SSD8)
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Thx to Richard Burns: 1TB M.2 NVMe SSD (Crucial P1 CT1000P1SSD8) works in a Pavilion 690-0067c
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Thx to Jon Kingsbury: Addlink S70 512GB SSD NVMe PCIe Gen3x4 M.2 2280 works in a 690-0022na
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►Power Supply
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Thx to Stephen Craig: in a 690-0067c, upgraded from 310W to 400W (HP part L04618-800)
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Thx to Jon Kingsbury: in a 690-0022na, upgraded to a 500W (HP part L05757-800). Slight misalignment of screws - only one fits - but fits in latch and doesn't move in chassis.
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Thx to PinoyPhantom: in a 690-0067c, upgrade to a 500W (HP part L05757-800). Could only secure the PSU with the top left screw. It has a 6+2 pin connector so you dont need an 8 pin adapter (please see corresponding graphics card update in description).
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►Case Fan
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Thx to Joe Candelaria: replaced existing case fan with 92 mm be quiet! fan.
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Thx to S6.: 2 x 92mm Noctua NF-A9 PWM 25MM in case. Along with Noctua CPU fan (see following section), temps are ~65°C.
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►CPU Fan
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Thx to Jake Wagner: upgraded to Freezer 12 (removed the drive cage) in a 690-0024 - idle temps ~25C, full load stress test at ~65C
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Thx to S6.: Noctua NH L12S, with pipes up and fans at bottom in push mode. Along with Noctua case fans (see previous section), temps are ~65°C.
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Thx to Terry Parrott: “First thing you need to know is... the hold down spacing is for an Intel 115X." An AM4 cooler won't fit
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“The case fan sucks air out of the case but the [inlets] are... blocked by the rack holding the HDD and Optical drive... temps run up to 85C+ playing Fortnite.
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“The only way to improve that is to remove the rack... and even then it only drops to around 80C under load. So I removed the rack and replaced the Freezer 11 LP with a Freezer 12.
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“Two problems... 1) the PWM fan for the Freezer 12 isn't recognized by the motherboard and 2) the M3 [fasteners] that come with the kit are too long.
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"So here's what you have to do...
1) order a Freezer 12 and 92mm case fan
2) go to Home Depot and buy 2 packs of M3-0.5 x 16mm Socket Cap [fasteners], one pack of M3 flat washers, 6" zip ties
3) remove the rack entirely
4) plug in the 92mm fan and set it aside (because it’s a hassle with the cooler in place)
5) replace the CPU cooler with the Freezer 12 using the [fasteners from] Home Depot
6) zip tie the 92mm case fan to the Freezer 12 on the RAM side blowing through the cooler toward the back of the case
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"Temps maxing out at 65C under full load... Downside is you lose the HDD & optical... and end up with [an opening] in the front of the case… AMD says the max safe temp for Ryzens is 70C and this was the only way I could get the temps to stay that low.”
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►Reducing CPU temperatures
Thx to epc for the following tip on reducing CPU temps: 1 easy modification to increase the cooling of this PC: move the 3.5" HDD from the top to the bottom of the rack. This gives a direct path of air flow going from the top of the rack, past the CPU heat sink / fan, then to the case fan in the rear. On my system (690-0067C), this reduces the CPU temperature by 5 degree C as measured by CPUID HWMonitor.
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Thx to KayBassYT: After removing the cage and losing the optical, I ziptied the sata drive at the bottom of the case against the front mesh plate and it's sitting there stable. I put in a Noctua NH L9x65 cpu cooler/fan. With stock case fan and no intake fan yet (I ordered one just now), the temperature range is 33~47C. This is a HUGE improvement from 55~70C @ 28 ambient @ only 5~15% cpu utilization.
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►Phased Upgrade Notes
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Thx to drunkdonkeydude
for the following write-up:
Priority upgrades -
RAM, Get at least 2x8 2666mhz (The fastest this mobo can support unfortunately)
SATA or M2 SSD Drive. Make that your boot drive. I went with a PCI-E 4.0 backwards compatible m2 drive to use in future builds. Mind you this mobo only supports 2 of the 4 PCI lanes the m2 drive could utilize, so your M2 drive will be running a lot slower then it could. Its probably still faster then a SATA SSD though. Either of them is a HUGE upgrade over the crappy HDD. I had to unplug the hard disk when putting windows on the new drive for it to boot properly, then I was able to set the HDD up as a secondary large storage.
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Those will be your most important and easiest upgrades out of the box. Next will be a CPU or GPU if you want to keep going. Read the description to see what others have gotten away with. You only have about 10 inches of clearance and not a lot of power to spare. My unit had a 400w PSU. This limits our choices. So I went with a RTX 2060 super, figuring the GFX card will come to whatever future machine I build.
The CPU is also tricky. This motherboard does not support the X version of the ryzen chips. Because of power limitations and motherboard limitations, realistically your best options are a R5-2600 or a R7-2700. You could also look into 1000 series chips if you would like but those arent all supported either. Since this motherboard cannot overclock, I went with an R5-2600 for its higher base clock speed and comparable performance in games. You could potentially get a nice deal on a CPU right now as 3000 series Ryzens are doing well and folks will want to get rid of their old ones. Sadly we cannot use those new 3000 series CPUs. But worry not!
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If a new SSD and RAM upgrade are phase 1, and a new GFX card and CPU are phase 2, and you've come this far and still are considering the future of your invested machine, then consider phase 3: A new case, motherboard, and power supply. I would go with a newest chipset that can still support your Ryzen 2000 series CPU if you can. Like perhaps the x570 later this year or next year when prices have come down a bit. A new motherboard will give us a lot of improvements and features over HP's proprietary customized junk. More slots for RAM, expansion, potentially more ports, incorporated cooling, THE ABILITY TO NOW OVERCLOCK OUR CPU FREELY. A new Power Supply to facilitate this new case and board will also mean being able to support a whole bunch of expansions and devices and overclock that graphics card without fear of overdrawing from HP's weak 300-400w PSU You may also want to buy faster 3000mhz DDR4RAM at this point to replace our old 2666 mhz RAM. Better RAM speed/timing will get you bigger yields over marginal OCs in many cases with Ryzen CPUs.
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If you've gotten to or past phase 3 and have moved all your expensive components to a new case/board, did your overclocking, or decided its not for you, and are ready to embrace the future...Well, you're pretty free at this point. You could buy a 4000 series Ryzen (5000 series?). You could buy a RTX 3080ti or 3660ti or whatever is relevant at the time. Better coolers for more overclock tinkering.
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tl;dr 4 phase upgrade plan to turn our dinky prebuilt storebought mass produced PC into an unbeatable titan of the future.
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►CMOS Reset Notes
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Thx to Chris for an important note about re-setting the CMOS:
Before upgrading make sure you update the latest BIOS and make sure you are very patient since this computer is extremely hard to upgrade. Make sure you clear the CMOS before you install your new components since this motherboard is so stubborn recognizing new components which I made the mistake of not clearing the CMOS which made the PC not boot at all and cause a boot loop. To reset the CMOS it is very hard to do without removing the GPU out of the computer so make sure you do that and remove the battery from the PC for a couple of minutes and put it back on. When you finally boot with the new CPU make sure you press Y which will Reset the fTPM which will remove user accounts but not the data on the drive windows is installed on and you can always add back the user accounts if you want.
I have upgraded the RAM with another 8GB module (since the existing 8GB is one module, not two 4GB modules--thankfully).
I bought the module from Amazon, and it matches the specs of the existing RAM:
www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0734V4SSR
It was recognized fine, and runs in dual channel mode at 2666MHz, as it should.
if I buy a WD hard drive, will it come with screws to mount it? I don't think it does, i've seen unboxings on youtube. Would I need to buy a sata data cable to connect to the board? if so, which one. Where do I get these screws and what size are they
Normally you will need to buy a SATA data cable and the screws, which are usually just sold as hard drive mounting screws. They are #6-32 screws.
Just ordered to be what I understand is the original ram that came with the box: Samsung M378A1K43CB2-CTD on amazon here: www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07F72RJYN/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00__o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
UPDATE:. JUST INSTALLED AND COMPARED THE RAM. SAME EXACT ONE.
@@accessrandom how many m.2 slot are there? can i put another m.2 ssd
ok it arrived and I have installed it but now I will watch yout other video on the ssd on the dell laptop. Thank you so much you deserve the best!!! Thanks
Def adding this video link to my notes and cloud for later use. HUGE THANK YOU
You're welcome, and thank you 🙏. You'll find lots of information from other viewers in the description and the pinned comment, where I keep track of successful upgrades.
I know I’ve asked a lot of questions on this video- all I have to say now is thanks so much! I had this PC and in the past week, I added a Ryzen 7 2700, 16GBs and today a 1TB SSD. Thanks a lot!
That's a lot of upgrades! Happy to have helped - thanks for the update 👍
did you retain the stock cpu cooler?
@@accessrandom Will a Ryzen 7 2700x work?
Love the sound effect while unscrewing :). Nice Video like and subscribed
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Much obliged 🎩 Happy to have you here. I thought it would be better to shorten those parts rather than show 10 to 15 seconds on each screw :)
Thank you so much for this video. Ive got the Ryzen 7 2700 version. Its my first PC. I have watched this video several times already! And thank you to all the comments, Im learning allot
You're welcome, and thank you. Glad you found the video useful. 👍
I have bought a newer version of this pc and i’m really glad that all the parts are removable and accessible i’ve gotten it for a steal so if I ever want to fix some of the thermal issues I have I can just transplant it into another case thanks for this video I saw all I needed to know
Glad you found it useful - yeah, this is a good bang for the buck for most of the parts. Transplanting them is a good plan. 👍
well thats calming yet informative
Excellent video, really like the detailed explanations and the sequence in how to get to the different components safely. Answered a lot of questions I had, and surely without doubt, for countless other people with this system that are thinking of upgrading components. Thank you and please keep up the great work. Greatly appreciated.
Many thanks for the kind words 🙏
Very helpful! Exactly what I was needing to assist in upgrading my pc!
These vids are awesome. I have this PC and have upgraded based on you vids. Perfect
Much obliged 🎩. Glad you found my videos helpful 👍
I feel like im watching How Its Made.... I LOVE IT
Lol 😀 but I can't hold a candle to Brooks Moore. Much obliged 🎩
@@accessrandom 🤣🤣🤣
Good video... enjoyed the added power wrench sound effects when using screwdriver. Nice touch.
Thanks man. No one wants to see me use a screwdriver for 2 minutes so I use that in all my recent videos :)
@@accessrandom so basically, you can buy another 2.5 hard drive and it would fit next to the oem one but in the opposite direction. Also, what happens if I get a new ssd to replace the stock one, wouldn't i lose windows 10 as the while thing is installed on the ssd
Yes, that's correct - you can add an additional 2.5" or 3.5" hard drive or 2.5" SSD and mount it opposite the existing 1TB HDD. You can also replace the existing 128 GB M.2 SSD, which has Windows on it, with a larger M.2 SSD, but you would need to re-install Windows on the new SSD; alternatively - and a bit more complicated - is that you could clone Windows from the existing to the new (you'd need an M.2 enclosure to connect the new SSD to a USB port so you can perform the clone). Hope that makes sense...
access random but isn’t the recovery on the sata hard drive so just swap the ssd snd do a recovery, though you would lose whatever you have.
Yes, that's correct - you can always do a recovery onto the SSD.
Thank you for this video, it really helped in finding and installing some new memory!
You're welcome - glad you found the video helpful 👍
Thanks for the video! I've been looking to get an additional stick of ram for my machine but I had no clue how to even start or how much more I could add.
You're welcome, and thank you. I'm glad you found the video useful 👍
Ok, I have the 590-p0020 with the same motherboard. I have seen reports of people upgrading the PSU. Based upon my research, power is only delivered via the two four pin connectors. The proprietary connector at the bottom is a PSU fan connector. So, I would imagine you probably could put an sfx PSU in it with those connectors along with a jumper for the 24 pin.
Correction to video... no, you cannot use the pcie slot to install a sound card. The m2 ssd uses that pipeline, it's not functional while using the ssd. Can use external USB sound card, use the hdmi or digital ports in graphics card to carry digital sound, or plug 5.1 surround jacks to mic and line in ports on rear and pc will auto configure into output ports. You can access by going into REALTEK visual interface.
I own the 690-0034 model with Ryzen 2700. I upgraded the ssd to a larger size and it's western digital black edition. I reconfigured ports on rear to act as audio out for my 5.1 speakers as I stated above. Works great.
That's a great catch - do you mind if I add it to the description (with credit to you)?
@@accessrandom sure thing... To be clear, the port can be used if switches to using sata drive, (ssd or hdd). The M.2 NVmE is faster because it actually steals the pcie ports pipeline... So if you install a sound card, it will show it in device manager, but the system won't find it and will refuse to install software for it. I have my workaround for sound utilizing the rear ports as I stated (set up in the visual interface for realtek), but one can use external USB sound card or use HDMI or even digital port to sound receiver\compatible speakers (provided video card has those) .
Thank you! I had to paraphrase a little bit because I'm hitting the 5000 character limit for the description, but I think I've captured the main points. Thanks again.
@@accessrandom no problem
very calming voice and very straightforward. wonderful video.
Thank you 🙏.
Probably the best upgrade video ever lol thanks man and thanks for the description very helpfuk
You're welcome, and thank you 🙏👍
I have this computer and wanted to learn how to upgrade it safely and surely. This helps alot. Thx.
You're welcome, and thank you. Glad you found it useful.
I have the Ryzen 7 version of this (model 690-00xx) with 16 GB of RAM. It's awesome for video editing. Going to upgrade to 32 GB of RAM soon. Nice video, it definitely helped me figure out how to access the RAM slots.
Glad you found the video useful. Thank you 🙏
Which ram did you go with. I have the same exact pc
@@SpyderBlackOfficial I replied to this a few days ago with a link to the RAM that I used, but my reply must've been deleted. So here's the description of the RAM that I bought from Newegg: G.SKILL Aegis 32GB (2 x 16GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR4 3200 (PC4 25600) Memory Kit Model F4-3200C16D-32GIS
This video helped me install a new hard drive into mine, was pretty straight forward, thanks!
You're welcome, and thank you 👍🙏
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@@pandrific3469 respect ✊
Regarding the optical drive, at 2:33 in the video. You don't have to pop/pry off the front cover. HP recommends: Before removing the drive cage, unplug the two cables connected to the rear of the optical drive, press the lever on the rear of the drive, and simply slide it out to the front (no screws). Reverse when reassembling.
I like that method since you don't risk breaking a tab on the plastic cover, as I have seen reported.
Thanks again! 👍😃 Someone had notified me of that earlier but I will add your text to it in the description.
@@accessrandom maybe make a video on how to do it?
The sound effects while removing the screws had ne busting a gut laughing 😂
You just have to be careful with the torque when putting them back on 😀
The video wasn't what I was looking for but your comment kept me around. It was exactly what I expected. 😂
Torqued em bud... lol
busting a what?
Bust a…. n u t ?
Perfect. Thanks for this info!
You're welcome, and thank you.
thanks for this video i got the upgraded virsion of this pc with i5 9th gen and a geforce 1660 but only came with 8 gb of ram and wanted to upgrade glad it doesn't look to difficult
Sure thing. Yeah, the 690 series of the Pavilion are pretty much the same except in terms of the housing. Only the internals vary...
What power supply did you use for that? I can not find a power supply that has enough wattage for that does not have 24 power pin for motherboard
@@davidcaldera6768 i was wondering the same :( i wanna upgrade my gpu but the current psu is too low to support the rtx gpu's.. :/
thank you so much! you made it a lot easier to understand :)
You're welcome, and thank you.
THANK YOU SO MUCH, YOUR A GOD SENT!
1 easy modification to increase the cooling of this PC: move the 3.5" HDD from the top to the bottom of the rack. This gives a direct path of air flow going from the top of the rack, past the CPU heat sink / fan, then to the case fan in the rear. On my system (690-0067C), this reduces the CPU temperature by 5 degree C as measured by CPUID HWMonitor.
Thank you. Do you mind if I add your tip to my pinned comment, with credit to you?
@@accessrandom Sure, go ahead!
@@echopapacharlie Done, added to the pinned comment - thank you!
How did you do that? Did you modified the rack?
@@kennethpacheco1716 No need to modify the rack. The rack is designed to be able to mount two 3.5" hard disks: one in the top (the factory default position), and one in the bottom, which is empty. Just disconnect the cables from the hard disk. Unscrew the 4 screws. Note the location of the 4 corresponding mounting holes on the disk. Match those 4 holes on the disk to 4 holes in the bottom of the rack. The 4 holes on the rack are marked "C" I believe. Reinstall the screws and reconnect the cables. Note the hard disk orientation is different in the bottom rack; it will rotate 90 degrees. Also note HP glues paper washers to those holes on the rack. Take care those paper washers don't drop into the machine as you unscrew / screw.
Great video mate!
Much appreciated!
Very helpful, thank you.
I found this video very helpful when disassembling and upgrading my HP. I put 16GB of RAM and a 256GB M.2 drive in mine.
A few comments though:
1) I was unable to pop the cover of the DVD drive using the method shown no matter what kind of tool I used. I ended up popping the drive tray out in the open position and prying the cover off from the end instead of the side. The tabs that hold it on look pretty fragile and I'm not sure how many removals they can survive.
2) The M.2 drive isn't an NVMe it's a SATA. (two notches in the end, not one) I don't know if the motherboard will accept an NVMe also, but the sites I checked all said SATA.
Glad you found it helpful and thanks for your comments. One viewer has posted the official way of removing the DVD bezel - you can find it in the description (I believe it comes from the HP service manual). Good observation on the M.2 SSD - at one point in time, the spec was listed as an M.2 NVMe, which was very misleading.
Alan Hobson I just bought two 8gb sticks and inserted them both and turned on the pc and nothing happens the power button just blinks wtf do I do ?
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1) Make sure you bought the correct RAM. It should be DDR4 (do you know what the timings are?)
2)Pull them out and put them back in again. sometimes they don't get seated correctly
3)If it still doesn't work, try each stick individually and see if the computer boots
What are the brands/models of the memory? I may need to list these in the description as something that is incompatible with the HP.
Also - have you tried the memory in a different system (if possible)?
@@pegr
Mushkin Enhanced Source M.2 2280 250GB SATA III 3D TLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) MKNSSDSR250GB-D8
For what its worth at this later date, I have the latest model of this same sort of setup but with a 3700x and an rx550. Similar proprietary 310W supply and motherboard. The power supply has a 6+2 power connector for a gpu, so I have 150W plus the 75W from the slot for a gpu. At the wall power measurements (subtract for PS inefficiency) with both cpu and gpu pegged was ~120W. The PS is a dual rail, so half the supply heads to the motherboard connectors and half going to that gpu connector. The RX550 draws ~50W full tilt, so the power demands for the cpu/motherboard/peripherals is around 70W.
Here's what I did.
Add second stick of the same 2666 ram. I did tests with 3200 which the mobo is supposed to support, but it stubbornly wants 1.2v memory and anything I did involving 1.35v memory cut the speed to 2133. I software overclocked the 3200 memory and memory benchmarks improved. Overall system performance, however, did not. The second stick of ram enabled dual channel and huge cpu and memory performance boosts. It was $32.
Added a short RX570 (both not tall and not long). The big drive cage in the video above no longer is in there, but it still has a smaller black mesh thing that I could find no purpose for, so I just removed it as it was blocking airflow a bit. With that out, you might get a long card in, but with it in, the gpu power connectors were rubbing against the cheese grater black mesh panel. $99. You could go 1650, 1650 super, rx5500, plausibly an rx5600 or a 1660. As long as the gpu power is < 150w, you should be fine.
Additionally, the cpu cooler has way too small of a heatsink and I just saw an interesting video talking about cpu heatsinks and the newer AMD chips that are 'chiplet' or monolithic pieces of silicon. In the old days, most of the heat from a cpu came from near the center, now its all over the surface of the chip. Many heatsinks have a round contact point. BAD for these AMD designs. When I removed the old cooler, yep, round contact point, very bad thermal paste application (all over the place, some of the cpu not covered). I had an old i7 cooler I used water cooling on laying around, the cooler is intel spaced, not amd spaced, so after removing the old cooler and cleaning the paste off the chip, the new one screwed right in, no problem. And it has a square contact point. Much larger spire heatsink as well. I found that running the cpu hard (folding@home anyone) was driving the cpu up to 100% and I was seeing cpu temps in the mid to upper 80C range. Not what I like to see. With this new one (spire is about twice the size) a square contact and good thermal paste application, this dropped to 75-77C at the max. Much better. Free because I still had that old cooler laying around. I also replaced the case fan with a same size cpu fan from another cooler, better quality and moves more air. Also free. Sometimes hoarding old electronics pays off!
So don't sweat the power supply even at 310W. You're good to go with anything gpu wise other that super high end cards like a 2070 or 2080 or 5800.
Thanks for the detailed write-up. This would be really helpful for others - is the model number the TP01-0066 with a silver case by any chance?
@@accessrandom Thats the one! Got it for $368 plus tax late last year. Was $550, they said it had a 1tb drive it didn't have and gave me $50 back for that, and I got 20% cash back plus office depot and credit card rewards. Steal of a deal.
One thing I'll mention regarding the 3700x in particular is it seems that the cpu firmware/bios/OS power settings still aren't settled. Folks with huge radiator water coolers are able to maintain a low (~30C) idle temp but most people including those using the AMD Wraith are seeing 50C at IDLE and almost 90C at full load. I installed two different coolers yesterday, a much larger heat sink model with a bigger fan, and an Aidos tall radiator/heat pipe model. Neither one reduced the idle and load temps very much, but that i7 bigger heat sink cooler I replaced the OEM one with works quite well, doesn't take up much space in the case, and is definitely better than stock. Seems there are issues with overboosting and overvolting the cpu that happen automagically in the cpu, causing the higher temps. Its really easy to replace the cooler in this. No need to pull the mobo at all. I just unscrewed the old one, cleaned the cpu, applied fresh paste and screwed the new one on.
So my key takeways from this were to not bother trying to get faster ram than 2666 to work, its a waste of time but definitely install a second stick for dual channel. Replace the stock cooler with a bigger heatsink; the one it comes with is only 1/2"! I'm pleasantly surprised at how much GPU this can take, just watch the height of the card. And that "small" 310W supply is more than enough for most mid range to upper mid range gpu's. Fairly quiet machine also, unless you run folding@home with both a cpu and a gpu load...
@@tfharper That's a great deal 👍 It's a curious combination of a high-end processor with a not-as-high graphics card (heck, most of the cost is in the CPU). I'm wondering if the general airflow within the case isn't carrying the heat out as efficiently as it should. Pinning your comment - thanks for the great info.
@@accessrandom Well that was the thing, the "experts" all said it was a stupid machine because it was cpu heavy and had a weak PS and GPU. Well, it can take a much bigger gpu, the PS isn't an issue and even the old RX550 played a surprising number of admittedly lower end games, but it played Doom 2016 quite well, which surprised me. When I put the RX570 in it, I put the RX550 in my HTPC, which was a great upgrade over the intel 530 integrated graphics I had.
Nope, the case flow isn't the trouble with the cpu heat. I had the side off and a 12" fan blowing right at the mobo. Not even a flinch in heat. As I understand it, the new Ryzen "PBO" (precision boost) overvolts and overboosts to levels that aren't well controlled by air based coolers, even humongous well regarded ones like that Aidos tower cooler I tried. Only folks not complaining about it have the big 120-140mm water coolers. Apparently AMD is okay with the cpu running up to 90C with PBO to get max performance. I'm not really that okay with it though. However I'm a bit stuck momentarily. You need Ryzen Master to turn PBO off and that won't run if you're using hyper-v, which I definitely use. So I might have to make a boot usb to run ryzen master once to turn it off, as its on by default. If you look at places like anandtech or even AMD's own forums in the cpu sections, everyone is having heat problems with the 8+ core cpu's, even with AMD's wraith cooler and high end pastes.
The combination gives "I have to build it myself" and "everything has to be a gaming machine with 200fps" folks the creeps. But considering that the vast majority of PC users don't game or don't game much, and the longevity such a SKU has for that 'grandma pc' you'll never have to replace or replacing that ten year old desktop that's still 'okay', or for workstation types that just want cpu and a gpu that'll transcode all day and drive multiple displays. Its actually pretty tough to beat for those sorts of needs.
I replaced a ~5 year old HP prebuilt 6700 machine with it. Over twice the cpu, much faster SSD, stuck a 5tb HDD in it and its my daily driver and plex server.
@@tfharperI have the rx 550 model and I would like to know, if you can upgrade the rx 550 to a Rx 580. If not what would you recommend as an upgrade? I just want to be able to play games like Jedi fallen order and Plague tale at a consistent 60 fps in 1080p no matter the settings.
Hello and happy new year! Is possible to change the motherboard with a micro atx on this case? And change the psu after that ofc? Thanks in advance!
Happy new year 🎉 Unfortunately, I didn't check the hole patterns on the motherboard to see if they were ATX/mATX standard - I'll need to check the next time I'm inside. However, the motherboard and power supply are highly non-standard so I believe they were custom-made for the case.
Are all HP Pavillion PCs about the same size? The one I want has a GTX 1650 super. I was wondering if that would probably fit RTX graphics cards for if I wanted to upgrade later on? Maybe a RTX 3060ti or 2060 depending on what is available.
All of the cases in the 690 family are the same size - but other lines look to be different (like the 790 series). All of the ones referenced in the description and pinned comment are in the 690 family. Others like the TG series are different.
On my HP 690-0067C, I have replaced the stock Radeon RX 550 graphics card with MSI GTX 1650 Super Ventus XS OC. The new card fits physically. The stock HP power supply can handle it. The new card's fans are much quieter, and the performance is obviously much, much better than RX 550. The new card is more power efficient, but the system as a whole is now generating more heat. CPU temperature is up, not due to higher utilization, but due to hotter air inside the case. The metal case cover near the graphics card is much warmer to the touch. So my next upgrade will be replacing the case fan.
Thanks again for the great info. Do you mind if I add your comment to the description under the "Graphics" section to your credit?
@@accessrandom Yes, please! Thank you for organizing the information for all the HP users out there.
@@echopapacharlie Done, and thank you again! Much appreciated...
Hey accessrandom, me again. I sold my hp 690 for about $500, and spent another $120 on a dell prebuild with an rx 580 that more powerful than this one, has a ryzen 2700, and a full 1 year warranty. I think this is going to be better for me as its just as loud as the HP but i get better components. This pc is also a lot easier to upgrade physically, and im planning on adding a 1660 super in the future. For the 4 months i had the HP for, it wasnt bad, but i still want something more futureproof
Good deal - I think that was the smart thing to do. The HP is going to be for a certain niche gaming market where upgradeability isn't a priority...
access random i mostly got it for the better cpu and upgradability, so far the cpu temps are way better than the hp, since theres plenty of vents for air to enter. GPU temps are about the same, this model uses a blower style RX 580. Im going to add an ssd later, as well as a better gpu. Thanks for the help again back when i had my HP
in addition to a new 3.5'' HDD and SATA cable. what else is needed to mount the drive to the case? The stock one seems to be inside a drawer of some kind
Hi, I have a similar desktop with a ryzen 7 1700 cpu. Do you know if the default power supply is strong enough for future cpu and gpu upgrades?
I measured the power consumption on my system with a Kill-a-watt and it peaks to a little under 200W with some CPU-GPU intensive games (ymmv). For my model's motherboard, the CPU can be upgraded up to a Ryzen 7 2700 which has a TDP 65W (which is the same as the 1700), and unless you go way higher on the graphics card, I think you should be fine.
Anyone know if it's possible to transition everything inside to a different case? I understand it's a custom size motherboard but I hate the stock case and cooling system that it comes with.
I didn't really check the mounting holes on the motherboard to see if they had standard spacings for standard cases. I'll need to defer to other viewers who may have had experience with this - anyone?
Alec Weltz did you figure out if you could?
SAME HERE CAN SOMEONE TELL ME IM TRYING TO SWITCH CASES BUT DONT KNOW FOR SURE THE MOTHERBOARD WILL LINE UP PERFECTLY WITH MY NEW CASE SOMEONE TELL ME PLZ
@@sorinzo3902 yeah same want to case swap but I think you need to buy a other motherboard because this is a custom fittings
I have a similar build that has a Ryzon 3 2200g with Vega 8 graphics with a b350 motherboard...I don't know what power supply it has though
Oh you are talking about the 590 one
My brother has the same one however the PC refuses to use the integrated Vega graphics
@@whiskeyTX mine uses it but only 1gb of vram
I have the 690-0067c
I would like to upgrade the RX 550 and the 310 watt PSU into a:
RX 580 and maybe a higher wattage PSU. Any suggestions or tips on upgrading?
3:08 motherboard *does* support intergrated graphics. My dad took my pc to use for work. I took the graphics card out and the black plastic part on the motherboard hdmi port and then I tested it. Windows automatically installed drivers and it works 100%.
Thanks for the information. I didn't know it at the time I recorded the video, but I've tried it myself shortly thereafter and can confirm. When you remove the video card, the BIOS will automatically switch to the internal graphics (even though there's no settings for it).
if you knew how much you helped me
Happy to help - thanks for the feedback 🍻
Custom motherboard, hope that never breaks.
Can i change the motherboard with a different brand? Or do i need to buy a new psu?
Got the same version for only $600 about a month ago. Planning on upgrading the memory soon.
Go with adata xpg 3000 and it will run at 2666 , same as stock speed
I was able to put an HP 500w SFF PSU into my HP Pavilion 690-0067c. However, I could only secure the PSU with the top left screw. I was also able to install a Gigabyte 1070 Mini ITX into my system.
Edit: The model number for the PSU is L05757-800 you can find it in the HP parts store. It has a 6+2 pin connector so you dont need an 8 pin adapter.
Thank you! Do you mind if I credit you in the description and the pinned comments, and is the model number GV-N1070IXOC-8GD for the GTX 1070?
@@accessrandom Yes, I am pretty sure the model number is correct. I don't mind being credited in the description. Thank you!
@@accessrandom It was a pretty tight fit because the 6+2 pin connector stuck out a little. You kinda have to jam the cables in to fit the cage. Note that the PSU does not correctly fit in the case and that you can only secure it with one screw.
@@pinoyphantom9423 Done! Thank you 👍
What do you do with the cpu? Leave it as is wouldnt it drag down the 1070?
Great video keep it up
Thanks, appreciate it.
do you know if i can upgrade a ryzen 5 2400g to a 3400g. The sunflower board was released in May 2018 and there are currently bios drivers for August 2020. Could it be?
Great video mate. Do you know if the stock cooler can support a ryzen 5 2600? And if not, i can't seem to find any market coolers that fit the form of the motherboard screw placement.
Thank you. It's a strange motherboard - even with a Ryzen chip, the mounting holes for the fan are for the Intel 115X (there's more information about it in the pinned comment under "CPU Fan").
Hey I'm back after a couple of years haha, Replaced the Ryzen 5 2400G to a Ryzen 7 2700. Changed the RAM from 24gb to 32gb of Samsung memory running 2666mhz dual channel. Also upgraded the SSD to the stock crappy 128gb SATA SSD to a 500gb Samsung 980 m2 nvme beast. Before upgrading make sure you update the latest BIOS and make sure you are very patient since this computer is extremely hard to upgrade. Make sure you clear the CMOS before you install your new components since this motherboard is so stubborn recongnizing new copoments which I made the mistake of not clearing the CMOS which made the PC not boot at all and cause a boot loop. To reset the CMOS it is very hard tto do without removing the GPU out of the computer so make sure you do that and remove the battery from the PC for a couple of minutes and pt it back on. When you finally boot with the new CPU make sure you prress Y which will Reset the fTPM which will remove user accounts but not the data on the drive windows is installed on and you can always add back the user accounts if you want. Next up is a GPU upgrade when GPU prices go down.
Thanks again! Lots of good info, especially about resetting the CMOS. Do you mind if I add that to the pinned comment with credit to you?
Yea sure
@@Chris-eq6jb Done - thanks!
quality vid, i just upgraded my 0020, it's the one released earlier that year and actually has integrated graphics capable.. it's lacking the nvme ssd, i upgraded with an old regular ssd.. and yes, you'll need a bracket, except what i did was simply switch the hdd to the other side of the cage.. and then above the disc player, there's screw holes to mount an ssd directly.. again, thanks for the vid.. the only thing is the plastic giftcard did not work for me LoL! use a paperclip to press the extra button inside the front pinhole, and pry the disk cover off by hand 😂 🤣
Thank you! This will be very helpful for others (esp. the tip about the DVD/CD player).
How did you get the ssd to work, I tried the same thing, but the computer won't let me boot from an sd card or a usb stick, so how did you do it please?
@@chriscuddy633 maybe push Esc a bunch of times on start up, and go into bios and make sure the boot device is usb and not the hard drives
This helped a lot.
Also, do you know if a case upgrade is possible? Especially regarding GPU's, the current case is very limiting.
Glad you found it helpful. The case can be upgraded but there are some caveats - the motherboard and power supply need to be moved together since they are both non-standard (and are matched with each other). I haven't checked the mounting hole pattern on the motherboard so I'm not certain if it will mount in a standard xATX/ITX case. Unfortunately, I haven't had any reports of viewers moving the system to another case.
To add another 3.5 HDD do you need to use a caddie? I have an additional drive to add in but without a caddie only two fixing screw holes line up on the cage.
by caddie i mean a sleeve/bracket- not sure of the right name
I know what you mean - the hole pattern on the cage doesn't quite line up with the mounting points on a hard drive, so there must be some type of special bracket or adapter that allows you to mount it (unfortunately, I am not aware of one). In your case, as long as the two screws secure the HDD from moving I think you will be fine. For my SSD, I just used some velcro strips.
@@accessrandom Thanks for the reply, I think the problem also is that my HDD is one of the newer models Seagate Barracuda 6TB, and in these HDDS they have removes the middle fixing holes. and are using a two at the front and two at the back configuration. I ended up fixing the front holes (the ones that line up near closer to the sata input) and using some double sided tape (the good stuff used in aviation) along the back and pressing it against the cage.
I got this same model from wal-Mart lol just to dip my feet in the PC world and I love it will never go back to console how ever it could b a lil faster witch I’ll prob do soon it’s a grate PC for anyone just getting into PC gaming iv even done a bit of streaming off it and it’s really good for the money u payed
What FPS do you get playing fortnite?
@@DAMDAM333_ was pretty round good 100 120(internet not the best) now my sound wont work in my head set idk what happen only on the one game fortnite
@@blueberrycrush5420 it's probably a glitch from the game thanks for responding!
@@DAMDAM333_ yea n.p
its been about 7 months since i had the 690-0010 and i greatly recommend you upgrade the gpu and ram in this system the rx550 is not meant for 1080p gaming at all and the one stick of ram greatly hinders your performance. i upgraded to a gtx 1650 and added another 8gb stick of ram and performs so much better now.
Thanks for the info - this will be helpful for others who have the 690-0010.
do you think ill be able to upgrade to 1660 super
@@kevinjuarez5796 I've kept track of successful upgrades from viewers in the "Graphics" section of the description. It looks like a couple people were able to upgrade to the 1660 Super.
Mine came with a 1660 super whats the max you can go is my question
Do you think I can use G.SKILL Trident Z ram ddr4 8GB x 2 3600 megahertz with the Sunflower motherboard or do I have to upgrade.
Nice video
I have a question,
I have a pavilion gaming 690-0033nl can i put inside the ram slot another 8 gb from the suggested list? Do they work fine?
Thks
I am not sure - it appears that the 690-0033nl uses a Lincs motherboard, whereas the 690-0024 (the one in my video) uses a Sunflower motherboard. You can definitely pair it with the same memory that's already inside your system, but I don't know about the other third-party memory.
Thank you for this awesome video and correspondence.
Anyone who has any information on the psu connections and dimensions would be a hero
Unfortunately, I didn't measure the dimensions of the power supply while I was inside but according to a reviewer at Best Buy, it is 2.8125 x 2.9375 x 6.25 inches or 71.4375 x 74.6125 x 158.75 mm.
The PSU has non-standard pin connections. I'll need to defer to my viewers for information about the pin layout (and their voltages). Anyone?
This is my pc , and it is very incredible .
I buy it for 500 € and it is :
-Small
- Sober and beautiful
- Gtx 1050 2gb
- 8gb ddr4 2666
-Amd ryzen 5 2400g with vega 11
- Disk reader
- don't make noises
- Wifi integrated
- Windows 10 64bits
-1 to
- SSD
Wich pc?
the fans gets louder over time
I bought the Ryzen 7 version and upgraded my ram and its a beast! Selling the old sticks of 2x8GB if anyone wants to match originals and upgrade to 16GB. $35 per stick. Also the power supply on mine is proprietary but there is a 500w version of the same power supply with the same connector. I have no need to upgrade the power supply though so I haven't done it. Just the RAM and went NVME and boy are my benchmarks goood!
My man from slickdeals. How much faster is that nvme compared to the sata that came with the machine and hp lied about. We should be compensated for all this. We got scammed by hp
@@naegleriafowleri1715 I think it's much faster but to be honest I upgraded both the hard drive and the RAM basically at the same time. But from a user bench standpoint that standard config was 70% 78% 80% and with just the two upgrades went to 68% 113% 107% I could probably OC in ryzen master and tweak that 68% for gaming but I am not that pro yet and will get there one day. But to be at UFO for the other two categories was major for my use
Capturing Perfection Photography damn you alien now. Any more plans?
@@naegleriafowleri1715 outside of overclocking and trying to find better cooling somehow no other plans unless a better GPU that can fit comes a long and then I'll also upgrade to the 500w power supply. I hope someone here finds some awesome cooling options as that's what I want to find before I OC.
Capturing Perfection Photography why not just get rid of the motherboard and psu and transfer everything to a new case?
What kind of gpu would I be able to put In here?
Hey i got the hp pavilion 690-0008ng and want to upgrade the power supply for a new graphiccard can u help me out by showing which would fit (i have a 310watt right now want to upgrade to a 500watt power supply)
I have been keeping track of successful power supply upgrades in the pinned comment under "Power Supply". Unfortunately, it's a non-standard PSU so the only replacements that have worked are HP OEM parts.
Priority upgrades -
RAM, Get at least 2x8 2666mhz (The fastest this mobo can support unfortunately)
SATA or M2 SSD Drive. Make that your boot drive. I went with a PCI-E 4.0 backwards compatible m2 drive to use in future builds. Mind you this mobo only supports 2 of the 4 PCI lanes the m2 drive could utilize, so your M2 drive will be running a lot slower then it could. Its probably still faster then a SATA SSD though. Either of them is a HUGE upgrade over the crappy HDD. I had to unplug the hard disk when putting windows on the new drive for it to boot properly, then I was able to set the HDD up as a secondary large storage.
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Those will be your most important and easiest upgrades out of the box. Next will be a CPU or GPU if you want to keep going. Read the description to see what others have gotten away with. You only have about 10 inches of clearance and not a lot of power to spare. My unit had a 400w PSU. This limits our choices. So I went with a RTX 2060 super, figuring the GFX card will come to whatever future machine I build.
The CPU is also tricky. This motherboard does not support the X version of the ryzen chips. Because of power limitations and motherboard limitations, realistically your best options are a R5-2600 or a R7-2700. You could also look into 1000 series chips if you would like but those arent all supported either. Since this motherboard cannot overclock, I went with an R5-2600 for its higher base clock speed and comparable performance in games. You could potentially get a nice deal on a CPU right now as 3000 series Ryzens are doing well and folks will want to get rid of their old ones. Sadly we cannot use those new 3000 series CPUs. *But worry not!*
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If a new SSD and RAM upgrade are phase 1, and a new GFX card and CPU are phase 2, and you've come this far and still are considering the future of your invested machine, then consider phase 3: A new case, motherboard, and power supply. I would go with a newest chipset that can still support your Ryzen 2000 series CPU if you can. Like perhaps the x570 later this year or next year when prices have come down a bit. A new motherboard will give us a lot of improvements and features over HP's proprietary customized junk. More slots for RAM, expansion, potentially more ports, incorporated cooling, THE ABILITY TO NOW OVERCLOCK OUR CPU FREELY. A new Power Supply to facilitate this new case and board will also mean being able to support a whole bunch of expansions and devices and overclock that graphics card without fear of overdrawing from HP's weak 300-400w PSU You may also want to buy faster 3000mhz DDR4RAM at this point to replace our old 2666 mhz RAM. Better RAM speed/timing will get you bigger yields over marginal OCs in many cases with Ryzen CPUs.
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If you've gotten to or past phase 3 and have moved all your expensive components to a new case/board, did your overclocking, or decided its not for you, and are ready to embrace the future...Well, you're pretty free at this point. You could buy a 4000 series Ryzen (5000 series?). You could buy a RTX 3080ti or 3660ti or whatever is relevant at the time. Better coolers for more overclock tinkering.
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*tl;dr* 4 phase upgrade plan to turn our dinky prebuilt storebought mass produced PC into an unbeatable titan of the future.
Thanks for the awesome, detailed upgrade plan. Do you mind if I append it to my pinned comment with credit to you?
What motherboard will fit?
@@accessrandom I don't mind at all!
@@sethrandir If you've done every other upgrade you can, then you would shop for a motherboard, case, and power supply together.
Getting your parts out of HP's shoebox case will expand your options dramatically for future upgrades.
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So you can shop for any motherboard as long as:
-It fits the case you are shopping for
-It can fit whatever drives, GFX card, and other upgrades you may have put into your HP machine
-It can fit whatever you think you might want to acquire down the line (networking/USB expansion, cooling systems, more drives, bigger GFX card)
-(Of course make sure the case and power supply your looking at can potentially support all this too!)
-Any other built-in features you might want - built in wifi, what sort of ports are available, etc.
-AM4 CPU Support - While AMD is technically letting some B450 motherboards update BIOS to support new 4000 series Ryzen processors, it will involve taking away support from older Ryzen CPUs (entirely optional). If you're savvy with BIOS this is an option. I would rather not fuss with it. Some viewers have 1000 series Ryzens and some have 2000 series. Some have integrated graphics on their processors. For this I can't tell you what motherboard or what chipset you should look into getting. I was considering an x570 board to accompany the Ryzen 5 2600 I'm replacing the stock CPU with, because x570 supports 2000 series Ryzen CPUs, *and* the upcoming 4000 series Ryzens. I wouldn't have to mess with updating BIOS. This gives my CPU an upgrade path to go into the future with, as well as the added bonus of actually letting the Ryzen 2600 be overclocked on the new board (unlike HP's) until then.
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Not a bad deal at all. Sadly x570 boards run a little more expensive right now. And new releases always have some uncertainty. That is why this is a final upgrade step. Its something to keep on your radar while you shop for other parts of your PC, but not something to actively look for for another year or so, unless an amazing deal falls out of the sky.
Thank you, and done! I've appended it to the pinned comment (I actually ran into a character limit in the description so I couldn't add it there).
Processor is upgradeable to Ryzen 2700. Ryzen processors with an X at the end are not supported.
Thats all fine and dandy except that processor is like $250 right now which is half the cost of what i paid for this pc 😂
Be careful of heat...the 2400G already gets way too hot
@@terryparrott9426 could re-application of thermal paste help w\that? I haven't taken off the fan to see how it looks
Thanks I just got a very simpler pc mine did not come with a gpu so I was looking at how I could upgrade from the integrated graphics
If it's a 690 series Pavilion, you can use one of the cards I've documented in the description (I've been keeping track of successful upgrades from other viewers).
Currently looking into getting one of these, do you thinks theres enough room for an upgraded power supply?
Nah they have proprietary cables so a regular atx doesn't work even if it fits
anyone found an 8gb rx580 to fit in this case?
Also, is the power supply of 400W enough to run said 8GB rx580?
My hp pavilion 690-00xx has an rx 580 8gb not sure about power supply though
Can you upgrade the power supply ?
There is some conflicting information out there - a reviewer at the best buy site is adamant that it's a non-standard PSU, while HP (who has an official presence there) says that it's a standard SFF. I'll need to revisit the power supply in the future as I didn't take a close look at it when I opened it up.
access random ok thanks for the response
access random and for the graphic card in my computer there is more space than you (im french so dont be rude with my english)
access random and I have thé project to upgrade to a gtx 1050ti and continue your great job
Pas de problème, let me know how the upgrade to the 1050ti goes.
I have this computer, And I want to take the parts out and put it into a new shell, Does anyone know of any videos that show that?
I have a HP Pavilion Gaming 790-0000nl and I noticed that the panel where the hard drive is located is not the same and the screws are different. Do you have a video which explains how to upgrade that particular computer? I would like to add a SSD but I struggle understanding how to properly open the PC. if you have any useful information let me know.
From the information that i could find online, this is a model specific for the Dutch market but the case seems to be the same as the 690-0024. Unfortunately, I couldn't find any information about the internals so I hope one of my viewers has had experience with it. Anyone?
Just purchased this PC for $549! Along with hp 25x monitor for $219 !
Nice! 👍
Same here lol now the price is back to around $800
@@TehUltimateSnake I returned this model and got the ryzen7 2700 16gb 128ssd 1tb HDD rx580 model for $699!
@@TheEgb18c im getting that same one with the 2700 but its like 1000 bucks :( whered you buy it or was it on sale?
@@jgarcom8 Best buy ! In January there was a sale
I replaced the boot SSD on mine with a 250GB SanDisk Ultra 3D SSD
Thanks for the info. Was this an additional drive or did it replace the existing HDD?
@@accessrandom The existing SSD
How did you go about reinstalling the OS? Fresh install of windows without the other stuff HP puts on, or just recover it?
I cloned the drive.
Ventilador gabinete de 120mm no sirve.. Será de 80 o 90mm?? Gracias.
I am upgrading cpu and possibly psu, I have a 180w 80+ gold psu and was wondering if there is a 650 watt psu for the lincs motherboard? I have an HP Pavilion 690 0035no, gtx 1650 lp 4gb, i3 8100 4 core 4 threads, 16gb ram corsair vengance 2400mhz and one samsung 8 gb 2400!
Unfortunately, the power supply is non-standard (with custom pin-outs to match the non-standard motherboard). In the pinned comment, I've listed the successful upgrades from other viewers (under "Power Supply"), but the only ones that have worked are OEM parts from HP.
I have the 690-0010 and i successfully upgraded to an RTX 2060 mini and also upgraded my PSU to a 500w,i will probably do a video one day.
Please do! You are the first to report a successful power supply upgrade.👍
Yes please do it bru
@@royeah8419 already did
@@pegr i dont own that pc anymore
Did you do that upgrade with the original mobo?
Damn, I just found out I have a 1050 and thought had a rx 580 lol
AXD 210 Lol I have one with the RX 580, my only gripe is that with some games I get a blank black screen for a couple of seconds every now and then. I would assume the gpu isn’t getting enough power is why it happens, but I’m going to buy a new case, motherboard and bigger power supply and possibly cpu cooler to see if the extra air flow and power will help with it.
John Lee how’d it turn out ?
John Lee yeah how’d it turn out? Mine is doing the same thing.. I also suspect the power supply. My screen won’t turn on at all now. I’ve seen some videos about cleaning the ram so I’ll try that tomorrow.
is there a way to overclock ram on these motherboards? I can go to bios but there is no options for speeds or voltage and i cant find how to access the advanced bios.
I'm afraid not - HP has locked down their BIOS pretty tightly.
@@accessrandom yeah thats really annoying,i recently upraded to 16gb of ddr4 2666 and it stays at 2133.
I have the rx 550 in mine but I'm buying a fxf amd rx580 black edition and I'm hoping it will fit...plus another corsair vengeance ram not sure if I should go with 1 or 2! Any advice???
The RX 580's power consumption is higher than the RX 550 so you may need to upgrade the power supply. For memory, I would go with 2 sticks if you are looking to replace the existing memory since there's only two slots (and you don't want to mix and match with the slower memory).
I got the one with the Ryzen 7 2700 and 16gb of ram and I absolutely love it. The only real difference between this one and mine is more ram and a Ryzen 7 2700 which btw is a really good processor.
Agreed. If you got them at holiday pricing, these HPs are/were a great deal.
@@accessrandom I think that I paid $800 for mine, the actual price was $1050 but it was a weeked sale at Best Buy and mine is the 690-0034
@@accessrandom your video helped me a lot, please keep it up so that I can reference it later. I have it saved in my videos. The 690-0024 is the exact same aside from the processor and the extra ram.
I probably got mine at the same time. What type of videos would you like to see? My holiday spending is a bit depleted so it may be a while before I upgrade anything ;)
and those are about the only 2 things that can be upgraded lol
Success upgrade with mom. RAM ADDED 16GB SAMSUNG 2666 MHZ DUAL CHANNEL.
Awesome - thank you. Do you mind if I add this to the description with credit to you? Just to make sure - you added two sticks for a total of 32 GB?
Only one.
What type of heatsind and cooling i can use for this model? Only low profile like noctua's model or can i use something more big too? As second question, can i move the mobo into a new case or chasis? Some sellers told me that the mobo is a micro atx and can be moved into a micro atx case or hybrid without issues. Is this true?
A couple viewers have used the Arctic Freezer 12 (see the CPU Fan section in the pinned comment), but they had to remove the inner cage that holds the hard drive. Something like a 212 EVO would be too big, but lower profile fans should be fine. Please keep in mind that the mounting holes are drilled for Intel, even though the CPU is AMD(!) I'm afraid I haven't had any reports of anyone successfully moving the non-standard motherboard to another case, and I didn't check the standoff holes to see if they were ATX standard. I'll need to check the next time I'm inside.
Can you take the internals and switch cases for more room?
The only concern I have is that the motherboard and power supply are non-standard (for example, the motherboard has mounting points for the CPU fan drilled for Intel, even thought the CPU is AMD). I haven't compared the points for mounting the motherboard to a standard ATX/ITX case, but that is something you should keep in mind.
Mine is the same Except it has an Nvidia GeForce GTX1050 with AMD Ryzen 5 2400 Vega. So basically the same except mine has an Nvidia Graphics card which is crazy. Nvidia and AMD in one PC? Like they made it like that. It's great...really is.
Would a 1660ti be compatible with this? I know there are other variations with Nvidia cards
@@benmarsico9403 yes, power consumption could potentially be the only issue. But modern cards such as the 1660 use more or less than the rx580. You should be good!
How much did it cost to add on
@@primeshowinc it didn't. I bought the HP pavilion Gaming Desktop with that already inside of it brand new. HP makes different kinds with different specs
Can u upgrade to gtx 1060 or gtx 1070 plz answer me back
great post , HP motherboards don't support anything lol, new motherboard that fits that CPU and you are set, even if it means reinstalling a new copy of windows 10
Yeah, the more I work with this motherboard the more I see its limitations (and downright weird compatibility issues).
thank you so much i liked this video :)))
You're welcome, and thank you 🙏
I'm looking to upgrade my graphics card, what should I be looking to get? I play games time to time and heavily used fusion, cad, inventer, and 3d printer slicing software. I have this computer from around October/November of last year. Don't know the exact model at this time. Also plan to update processor, ram, and add another SSD.
I've been keeping track of successful upgrades from my viewers to various models in the Pavilion 690 family (which you can find in the "Graphics" section of the description). The other components are also in the description as well as the pinned comment. Hope this helps...
Very good video, but these PC's are throw aways, HP doesn't allow upgrades, mainly because of how the storage partition is, so flashing the BIOS doesn't help. It's only set up to accept what's in it. Unfortunately changing it will cause the PC to be erratic or not work at all. Even more memory modules are finicky. Also you can NOT replace the 400w PSU in this, so hardcore gaming is out of the question unless you want to fry the pc. It also uses an HP motherboard, which wouldn't even cost about $30. So everything is cheap. The one they are "attempting" to sell at walmart has a 1660TI (minimal 450w psu), with a 256gb SSD and an I5 9400F for $579. Sounds like a good deal, but read the horrid reviews these PC's get. Some don't even get ANY 4 or 5 star reviews. They are THAT bad. Hope this helps!
Thanks - after having played with it for a year now, I agree. Other than certain memory modules with very exact specifications, the addition of another hard drive or SSD, and possible upgrades of the video card (within the power requirements), it's a challenge to upgrade this model. You can see some of the limitations and testimonials of certain commenters in the description - especially Terry Parrot's.
@@accessrandom yeah it's really disappointing because I really wanted to get that model with the 1660 TI, and you know the engineers at HP had to know that card requires at least 500 watts. But oh well there are a lot of good companies out there :-). Also it's good to see that yours is lasting at least, lots of complaints that I've seen the computer doesn't even last a few days or weeks.
Jeremy Freeman i also considered getting that model, as i saw it on Walmarte Black Friday ad. You’re absolutely right about all of that. I already sold mine (amd variant) and bought a dell machine. Didnt have the 1660ti but at least it won’t overheat itself
My cpu temps are insanely bad, i turned the side panel 180 degrees clockwise so the holes face the cpu and gpu which did help the airflow, but im still getting 55C IDLE and almost 80C while gaming. Gpu is running at ok temps tho. I found some usb external fans, could i install them inside the case?
Yeah, I wish I had a better answer. I've re-applied the thermal paste and mine still goes up to 75C during a video render. I am thinking of cutting a hole in the side with a dremel tool to mount a case fan. However, there is a viewer (Terry Parrott) who was able to do some drastic things to get his temps down to 65C under load (in the description).
I pryed the rom cover off with my card and when I put it back on it falls off very easily
I wish RUclips still had annotations - there were two commenters named tinmania and Ye Wang who were helpful in explaining how to remove it without taking off the cover, so I added it to the description. I will also add it to the pinned comment.
Is there a certain power supply you can buy? I'm thinking about upgrading my cpu and hoy but the psu is what's limiting it
It needs to be an HP OEM part (and unfortunately, overpriced). The pins coming from the power supply are non-standard - HP made it really difficult to upgrade the PSU.
can we put a series rx 6000 graphics card on the 2nd pc
Thank you 👍
I have this PC expect I have the ryzen 2700 and 16Gb ram in my Pc and I'm looking to upgrade it, my first question is there way to allow better airflow in the case?, would replacing the pc stock fan allow better for airflow in the case? The second is issue is VR since I use oculus quest and link in VRchat and this rx 580 is running to very uncomforatble levels lets say 90C to almost 100C feels like the gpu could burst at any second with the fan being so loud and it only happens on that game. So is there way to upgrade the video card(graphic card) without having to change out the power supply. The ones I have looked at are 1660 mini or maybe 2060 mini could be possible?
So is there way to increase airflow in the case as well a way to upgrade the graphics card without changing out the power supply? Thanks much appreciated
You can replace the case fan with a 92mm fan (please see the pinned comment for another viewer who has successfully replaced it). I've also made notes in the pinned comment about others who have gone to great lengths to lower temperatures within the case. The description also has successful upgrades to other graphics cards (under the "Graphics" section), so that will give you a good idea of what you can upgrade to.
PLEASE HELP. I purchased the HP Pavilion 690-0020 and it doesn't come with an ssd. I created a backup device using an empty 128gb sd card. I put the sd card into a usb adapter. Then I changed some setting so now I can select it as a legacy boot device (Labeled "generic usb device"). When I select it to boot the pc, it doesn't boot, it does something else like "attempting to repair pc" or something like that. I would really appreciate any help I would really like to use an ssd in this computer. Is it possible that the motherboard just doesn't support usb booting and I need to use a cd to boot the pc? Thanks in advance!
With the HP recovery manager, you can create recovery media (in my case, I created a set of four recovery DVDs using the DVD writer - I believe you can a USB disk though I'm not 100% sure about that). Once you do that, you can boot to the DVD and restore the factory image to the SSD. I recommend that you physically disconnect the hard drive before restoring to the SSD.
@@accessrandom Ok I will try the dvd's because when I tried using a usb stick it didnt work
looks like maybe you could mount another fan on the bottom of the black tray where the hdd sits?
actually not a bad idea for people who sit this unit on its side instead of vertical, because that would stir up the air above the chipset heatsink 😅
Would you open the newer version of this pc where it has nvidia gtz 1660 and intel i5 9th gen. I got mine and i wana use displayport on grafik card but i dont know how to open it up
Are you referring to the 690-0073w by any chance? The HP Pavilion 690 family should have the same mechanism to open the case. From looking at other videos, it looks like the graphics card has one DisplayPort on it.
HELP. can I change the case?I mean I want to buy a mid tower to put everything cleaner but I see that this motherboard has a few usb on the front. can i change it?
If you move to a new case, you would need to move both the motherboard and power supply at the same time (since they're both non-standard and are matched to each other). The only thing I'm unsure about is the mounting holes on the motherboard - it is such a non-standard board I don't know if the mounting spacings are standard. All the other components (memory, M.2 SSD, graphics card, hard drive) are standard, except for the slim DVD drive which needs some adapter to make it fit in a 3.5" bay. Like you mentioned, you'd also lose the front panel ports
Anybody know why I can’t stream on obs to fb? It only allows me to stream 480 with out problems. Do I need a bigger ssd? Or?? Any help would be great full