@@RandomGaminginHD it creates this sort of vape juice condensation? that sticks to everything and forms an unholy dust/vape juice resin that's practically airtight - I have killed an RX480 in this way before, when I opened the card I felt like a war-criminal.
i vape and none of my computers or electronics look like this. they must of had one of those that blow huge clouds and they constantly filled the room up.
Hi! If you plan to upgrade to an i5 or i7, I'd recommend that you to look for an "S" variant. The 65W TDP of these chips would probably do better with the limited room for cooling (and they would also put less strain on the PSU, I've personnally had an I7 4790 pulling up to 115-120W on a B85 board with default settings)
Yep, you nailed it. With that PSU the best GPU is a 1650, but the system will not be even good for the PS5 era. It's best left as a Windows 10 PC to play the PS4 and previous era at 1080p.
Would love to see you do an upgrade video for this. Not sure how high the CPU support can get for this system, but a 500GB SSD, 16GB of RAM, and a GTX 1650 would be a good start.
Haswells were the first implementation of AVX2, so technically speaking, they are capable of most of modern games(on the edge ofcourse, simply being an early adoption of that instructions set and therefore not efficient enough to hold up within TDP/temp thrasholds)
I think a 1650 or 1660 Super (The compact version with 1 fan) would fit nicely. Throw in a decent sized SSD, perhaps a Kingston A400 480GB And a i5-4590S or something like that would be the max considering max TDP / wattage PSU And to top it off 2X8GB DDR3 1600Mhz, It should run titles like GTA-V / Witcher 3 pretty well.
A 1660 would get bottlenecked hard by any 4th gen i5, a 1650 or 1060 would be closer but probably still somewhat bottlenecked. If he goes with a 1660 level card he would want an i7-4770S minimum.
A Core i7-4770K + GTX 1060 should do nicely in there and the PSU should be fine with that. I remember using an i5-4670 and 1060 with a 300W PSU, no issues.
Would emulation be something you're interested in benchmarking? Emulation could bring new life to these older components and it would definitely be nice to see how they perform!
Just a tip for you guys, when you use an airblower on any fan try to hold the fan with your hands because the high pressure air damages the fans motors when fans run anticlock wise (I mean fans opposite direction)
Consider an AliExpress Xeon, they are equivalent to i7, with hyperthreading but locket multiplier and without integrated graphics, but that works wonders on this case, cheap CPU upgrade to be able to spend a little more on the GPU and add that sweet extra 8gb stick of RAM.
and of course overclock it to boot to show off what it can do if you push it to the limit he just needs to upgrade the cooler for the cpu to see how far the cpu and gpu can be pushed for max performance
PSU looks like one of those flex server type ones. Perhaps it can be replaced to 500w ones at least? I believe Dawid Does Tech Stuff might have a video where he reviewed and updated this PC this year I'm more concerned about the proprietary looking CPU cooling solution and lack of space for graphics card space, since upgrading this to sth more modern like a 9th gen Intel + gtx 1060 level GPU sounds more fun to me.
Good upgrade: CPU: i7-4790K (slightly beats the i7-5775c, should be undervolted, no OC) RAM: 16GB 1600MHz Kit GPU: GTX 1660 (power efficient, could also be undervolted a bit, but still capable especially with its 6GB of vram) or a GTX 1650S (only 4GB of vram, but would be cheaper and only draws 100 watts compared to 120 with the 1660) Also an upgrade to an SSD would help. All of these should be able to fit within the 350 watt budget pretty well.
You could do a £150 budget upgrade. 1650 for around 90 - 100, 4C8T xeon processor for around 30, an extra stick of ram for 15. Could be a viable 1080p gamer!
Major disappointment! I couldn't sit without telling you this - 1:56 I expected "slow motion" to be much slower! JK =) Thanks for another video, man! Great job, keep it up and I hope there will be more filthy bargains in future! Edit: P.S. if you'll manage to get i5 for a decent price and if here is some wiggle in budget - you might be able to find (yes, finding it - definitely the hardest part, but I actually did it twice) compact version of 4GB RX470 (Sapphire, Zotac or PowerColor versions - that's all I've seen) which may luckily survive all waves of mining "booms" - this could be a huge step up + squeezing older i5 and RX470 shouldn't be a problem for 350W PSU
What about using an external power supply to provide enough power to the GPU? That way you wouldn't have to struggle to find one that fits in the case. There's one Dell power brick that works well for powering GPUs.. can't think of the model number off of the top of my head, but it works well. I used one in an MSI Trident to power a RTX 2070 about a year ago and it worked great.
I think a 4790S and 1050Ti would be a good pairing, sure a maxwell low to mid tier card may be cheaper but on the constraints of the PSU, those 2 and an SSD would probably make all the difference...or you could be a madman and put in a GTX1630..finally a use case!
Yeah that's what I was thinking! Save the 1050Ti's for better systems - the PSU has a 6 pin power connector, but the 1630 is a low power card (75W). So definitely go for the GT 1630 - at least there's a use case for that horrid GPU! Regarding CPU's, if you didn't want to use a specific low power CPU then an i5-4460, with a TDP of 84W, wuld probably be OK. I suppose you could underclock it somehow if you really wanted to.
@@TheSpotify95 imo the S spec quad core no HT i5s kinda hurt it..they need all the clockspeed they can get, but a lower clocked i7S with HT more than makes up for it, the e5 1320 v3 xeom ovee my 4570 was a big difference and locking it at boost was a great performance improvement when i could match the clock speeds with the extra cache and threads
There was a update some time... That you could only overclock with Z89 chipset boards, Before that update you could indeed use the B85 chipset to overclock...
They did that for my AsRock B85 board as well. I ran the old bios for years for that very reason. Recently, my G3258 became so unstable that it would crash all the time even stock, so I replaced it with a 4c8t Xeon that I managed to find for cheap.
I have a '14 Nightblade (no surname, chipset z87i) bought new, and I'm using it to this day 50% of the days, still in its original setup but for a bigger SSD, and it has performed great, overclocked since day 1 with the stock cooler although slightly noisy even with a set of Noctuas. That model came only with the motherboard, the cooler and a nice 600w PSU, and I fitted a 4690k and an 280x card. I still play every now and then PUBG in it. Too bad the one you have has that silly chipset. I guess a K processor might enable some tweaking.
The Pentium G3258, dang it has been a long time since you looked at one. Your overclocking video on it from way back in 2015 was what brought me to you channel. A few ideas for upgrades: CPU: Xeon E3 1240v3 / 1270v3 (similar to i7 4770 without iGPU) RAM: DDR3 16gb 1600mhz GPU: GTX 950 / GTX 1050 / GTX 1050Ti Storage: Maybe a 500gb SSD and swap the slimline optical drive for one of those 2.5" drive to slimline drive adapters to make use of that space and add another drive.
The slimline drive adaptor I have is very limited in speed. I have a 1tb western digital blue that only runs at 80MBps in the adaptor, but can reach 120 directly on a sata plug. Funny story, I had the adaptor in a box and a 500gb drive from something, so I bought a empty slim optical enclosure on Amazon for $5 and stuck it together. I named it pancake. It's still slow at 30MBps via USB3.
Okay on that machine your best bet is to actually go for the I-5 processor because of the small form factor power supply and that will help a lot with the lag issues that you were experiencing while testing it with gaming also putting an SSD in it would work but I would recommend getting an SSD caddy adapter because they allow you to use the full speed of your drive no matter the sata 123 status of the drive controller
Just one little piece of an advice: when using compressed air for cleaning the inner stuff of the PC, just make sure to somehow block all the vents and prevent them not to spin all over the place, 'cause it can cause several different issues, including killing the GPU, killing the MB, etc. Great video though (as usual).
I had a Nightblade with a GTX 970, and its probably the most well-built pre-built PC I've ever seen, the layout was much better then the one in this, with the included aftermarket MSI GTX 970 dual fan card sucking in air straight through the case, keeping extremely cool temperatures, combined with a full size stock-cooler instead of the laptop-esque one in this PC. All this in a case that actually was smaller than this one. It was the version after this though, bought in 2015/2016, so they definitely improved over time.
330w is a lot more than you might think it is. 12400 + 3060 average power draw was only 380w. This little beast could probably fit a i7 4770S and a GTX 1070 in it comfortably.
@@andyshtroymish4997 4770S + 1070 is gonna be 200ish watts mostly on 12v. This power supply is not gonna be so old that they have absurdly low 12v ratings like some REALLY old OEM supplies have.
I always try to max out what the motherboard can handle. Max chip, most/fastest ram, and largest logical gpu to match the cpu. Then I hand it over to family or friends in need
i have had a few nightblades, and the PSU actually goes harder than you would expect, currently have an 8th gen nightblade that i upgraded to 32gb ram with a i7 9700 (non-k to save power) and a zotac 2070 SUPER. Temps are good and it games HARD. these are awesome little beasts and are the PERFECT compact rig to run on the tv in your loungeroom.
My newest and most powerful PC has MSI H81M-P33 (BIOS looks the same as the one in this video), i7 4790, 16GB DDR3 1866MHz, R9 270 2GB in an Acer Aspire M1930 case (reused the case from my first PC). It's running Windows 11 and it's pretty good for gaming at 1366x768. Honestly the 2GB VRAM on the GPU is the limiting factor (I think). Bought the motherboard, CPU and RAM from my sister for $80 after she upgraded her PC and I bought the GPU for $35 before the first increase in prices. Pretty happy with the performance playing games like Cyberpunk (on Mid to High settings) and the newest Saints Row (at low to mid settings). Though this is not my main PC, I still prefer my Acer IPISB-CH, i7 2600s, 16GB DDR3 1600MHz, RX460 4GB (motherboard, CPU cooler and DVD drive from my first PC) with Windows 7 for everything else besides playing modern games (Cyberpunk is playable, newest Saints Row doesn't run on Win7 sadly, GTA Online runs great though).
I had the z97 nightblade barebones kit... That sadly didn't come with the advertised water cooler. Apparently the micro center version didn't include it. Though I think maybe it was Frys. Took a while to find a tower cooler to fit, but I found one with dual 90/92mm fans. Masscool or deepcool, one of those 2. I later salvaged a fan from an hp omen's dead water cooling system (bad pump). This fan was clear and had red LEDs. It was also borderline server fan because it was louder than an fx 5900 ultra! Thankfully it had decent settings for that in bios, only going to extreme mode when things got really hot. I5 4570k, 16gb ddr3 2400 (yes ddr3 went that fast) 120gb ssd with win7 (later 10), 2tb spinner, msi gtx 970. It had a 600w power supply.
Watching the dusting of the PC in slow mo was so satisfying! Thank you! Made my evening! Btw i would like to see more co-op videos with your sister. Together you make pretty funny videos! :) Thumbs up from me!
I just did something similar with an MSI Trident 3. Kind of the spiritual successor to this machine. Added a 1tb nvme and 2060 since it was the highest power card I could with the 230w external power brick. Gonna be my new LAN rig.
You can use Xeon E3 v3 Chips in desktop boards for 4th Gen Intel - I picked up an E3 1240 v3 (4c 8t 3.5GHz) for £35 On ebay so much cheaper than 4770 Prices. I reckon a 1050 Ti Would go well with a decent CPU In there - they seem to go for 60 to 70 on Facebook marketplace these days
A nightblade was my first ever pc back in the day when I was still a teenager with a limited budget. Had an i5 6400 and gtx 960 in it. I was super happy with finally having my own gaming pc although it was very underwhelming at the time
Cool that you showed the GT 740 in combination with the 12400F. I wondered how much the G3258 held back the GT 740. Thanks for adressing that! As for the new GPU: a single-fan GTX 950 should fit in there as a cheap option. Otherwise a 1050Ti or 1650 would be a massive upgrade.
The dust was on par to the Dell T7610 which I bought recently. Seller was a bulk re-seller and did not bother to clean it, even has the ID from a well-known gaming development company!
I'd maybe try upgrading it to a i7-4790S which has a slightly higher TDP but 4 cores and 8 threads., max it's ram out to 16 GB, and it looks like that computer should have shipped with a GTX 960 2 GB according the MSI website, so maybe try using a GTX 960, or perhaps a GTX 1650 since it supposedly has lower power consumption and is a bit newer. Oh and most importantly ditch the mechanical drive, or make a secondary with an SSD as the OS drive.
That’s one dirty pc, praise the lord for dust filters and screens. When I clean mine I’m shocked on how much builds up over a month. To think what my system would look like without them horrifies me.
Hey RamdomGaming! I was leaning towards a 1650 super GPU upgrade with CPU and Memory as well? I like these small form factor setups and can't wait to see what you come up with.
I feel like the CPU cooler is going to be the limiting factor. Otherwise a 4770 assuming you can power limit it would've done great, maybe a 4770T with a SFF GPU, i think with a 3050 or maybe a 6600M you could get a sick combination going there or maybe if you find an used single fan 1060 that would work nicely as well. Could even check if the SFF motherboard is standard ITX and if it's possible to replace it with a newer motherboard though i don't think it's worth it.
I think a 1650Super is ideal for this, less power consumption than a 1060 6GB with about the same performance (a touch more) so a bit less heat in the box and a bit less strain on the PSU. 16GB RAM, a cheap SSD and if you can deal with the cooling maybe a 4770 or low TDP version of an i7 would be pretty decent for a 1080P gaming machine. You could always put a 1660S in but as my old 1060 6GB was a bit bottlenecked by my 4770 machine I'm not sure how much extra benefit you would get.
Without adding a better power supply you could probably get away with a i7-4790S with a gtx 970. Its just hard to find a GPU that need less than 350W. Saying that looking at what cards actually use you could probably put in a gtx 1070 which would make the system a great 1080p PC once you don't run into a cpu bottleneck. Can the case fit a card longer than the once in there ? It looks like a card could fit past the drive cage.
1050ti is your boy I reckon, runs straight off the pcie slot with no additional psu cables, pair that with an I7 4770 and you've got yourself a pocket rocket there, nice fun little rig mate, perfect for GTAIV and V.
Ah man, this is from that "sweet spot" where I have no idea about "current" stuff of the time. At the time, I was having it a bit rough, to the point that my old Athlon failing me lead to me buying a second hand P4 for a tenner just because I needed a working computer and selling the majority of my collection of consoles and games(only stuff I'd never played for years and didn't plan to either) just to eat. Talking of that old Athlon, that computer was dirtier than that thing currently is, and it's been sat in the corner of this room, sides off, collecting dust for like 10 years. And I practically chain smoke. I have no idea what you'd need to do get a computer looking like that.
this would make a cool high end windows xp machine.I see people making XP machines with 4th gen i5's and gtx 960's but I dont see the point in getting 500 FPS in XP games, even old benchmarks like 3dmark 2000 cap out at 999 fps on there counter lol.
Yeah, 60 is ok for most xp games. Most of them even break or crash above that, so I dont even get why would anyone would try to run those above 60, unless they really, really want to match their monitor's refresh rate.
I think the RX 470/570 would be great in this system ... maybe combined with i5, i7 or Xeon. Or keep it as it is and use for XP / Vista era games like Far Cry, Crisis and Doom 3 and so on.
@@gejamugamlatsoomanam7716 It depends on the usecase. For Raytracing AMD is pretty bad. And when you want the top of the line cards AMD is probably also not good but for Linux for example Nvidia is bad. And when it comes to price to performance ratios older AMD cards are actually quite good.
@@marcosassari5603 For sure. I personally use an AMD GPU and I like it a lot. Haven't followed out the high end gpus to much since I don't need them. I just remembered that a couple years ago nvidias top performer where the fastest cards on the market.
Wow! never ever let the fan free spin while cleaning! It can cause not only the fan to fail but can produce an electrical charge that could fry your video card or other parts of the computer. If your fans have LEDs and you spin them, they will light up and that shows they are producing an electric charge!
love this video, the emotional support clips made me laugh hard 😆 About cleaning fans with air, i always wonder about if it's necessary to lock the propeller to avoid that the fan becomes an alternator. I don't know if these worries make sense or not, does somebody have actual knowledge about this ? Are components protected against electric bursts coming in from fan side nowadays ?
My guess wold be, it depends on your duster's speed, which should not be that high since most of'em aren't that powerful and have relatively low pressure stats...
@@andyshtroymish4997 yes, it's definately a point how much air gets pushed / sucked through the fans .. i've seen using people a (full size) vacuum cleaner to get rid of the dust, of course they put the vacuum cleaners hoseas close as possible to get all the dust - what made the fan sound like a jet engine for short moments. This is where my concerns come from, i just don't know if those concerns are legit.
if you are strictly upgrading the CPU/GPU i would suggest an i7-4770s to help keep the temps down and something modern but not overkill, like a gtx 1060. you definitely want to keep everything in check, not sure how much power the PSU puts out
I think a gtx 980 will suffice although it will definitely kill the PSU, but the PSU upgrade is the least of your headaches. The 12th gen Intel is kind of a overkill in this system...
He just threw that card in his main PC. We don't know if this case even fit for standard ITX, let alone the PSU! Plus, this adds another important problem for any SFFs: heat dissipation.
G'day Random Steve, I'd go with a i7-4770 with a GTX1650Super or 4770S with 1660, one of these combinations at about 200W should still be possible with the original PSU allowing for the Mobo, RAM, Fans & SSD + HDD overhead
If you deck it out with an i7, 16GB dual channel ram and a GTX 1650 it would be a very dandy little machine. One of my kids has a Dell Optiplex with an i5 3570, 16GB ram and a GTX 1650 and he can play pretty much anything modern on medium and older stuff on high and very high.
That’s a really cool case, it would fit perfectly for me as I got an msi gpu rx6600 and an msi laptop. Now I need to have one of those cute msi dragon plushies🥰
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The dust is probably due to the previous owner vaping - the PC doesn't/barely smells but the dust is even worse
Yeah a few people said vaping before. I didn’t know it created so much dust
@@RandomGaminginHD it creates this sort of vape juice condensation? that sticks to everything and forms an unholy dust/vape juice resin that's practically airtight - I have killed an RX480 in this way before, when I opened the card I felt like a war-criminal.
i vape and none of my computers or electronics look like this. they must of had one of those that blow huge clouds and they constantly filled the room up.
I bought a RTX 2060 for my brother on ebay, the previous owner vaped, it smelt of liquorish. Cleared off easy enough though
This shouldn’t be vaping. This is textbook indoor smoking cigarettes.
Hi! If you plan to upgrade to an i5 or i7, I'd recommend that you to look for an "S" variant.
The 65W TDP of these chips would probably do better with the limited room for cooling (and they would also put less strain on the PSU, I've personnally had an I7 4790 pulling up to 115-120W on a B85 board with default settings)
Yep, you nailed it. With that PSU the best GPU is a 1650, but the system will not be even good for the PS5 era. It's best left as a Windows 10 PC to play the PS4 and previous era at 1080p.
@@takehirolol5962 Nah, i run a 1660S on a 290W PSU with no problems. With 350W you can probably run a 2060/5600xt
Best to just get an E3 1230 v3, low TDP and nearly full i7 4770
@@dmitrybayer Nice! And what other components?
@@takehirolol5962 i7-3770, 2x8GB 1600MHz CL9 DDR3, 500GB Samsung SSD. All in a Dell Optiplex 9020
Would love to see you do an upgrade video for this. Not sure how high the CPU support can get for this system, but a 500GB SSD, 16GB of RAM, and a GTX 1650 would be a good start.
Haswells were the first implementation of AVX2, so technically speaking, they are capable of most of modern games(on the edge ofcourse, simply being an early adoption of that instructions set and therefore not efficient enough to hold up within TDP/temp thrasholds)
Or with an arc a750
@@SakugaAsu Power consumption is too high and no ReBAR support
@@blowtorchhonor That's valid, at least for the moment
4:20 I got a G3258 years ago based on your recommendation, worked great in my cheapo student build with a similarly recommended 750Ti 👍
I recommend blocking the fan when cleaning it with compressed air. Spinning it like that can apparently create an electrical current.
Regenerative braking...
It's called Triboelectric charging
1:30 *CRIKEY*
Also: if you use the Air Duster, try not to spin fans with it, since they can act as generators and fry your components.
oh i will remember that
I think a 1650 or 1660 Super (The compact version with 1 fan) would fit nicely.
Throw in a decent sized SSD, perhaps a Kingston A400 480GB
And a i5-4590S or something like that would be the max considering max TDP / wattage PSU
And to top it off 2X8GB DDR3 1600Mhz, It should run titles like GTA-V / Witcher 3 pretty well.
A 1660 would get bottlenecked hard by any 4th gen i5, a 1650 or 1060 would be closer but probably still somewhat bottlenecked. If he goes with a 1660 level card he would want an i7-4770S minimum.
A non-k core i7-4xxx would be more versatile without overly stressing the motherboard or power supply.
@@brianbrians3157 it would, but currently they are still new in box and the most widely available powerful card on a 35w port.
Wow you get a pc with your dust! That's rare
Haha yep
Your humor and wit are too good. Keep doing what you do!
A Core i7-4770K + GTX 1060 should do nicely in there and the PSU should be fine with that. I remember using an i5-4670 and 1060 with a 300W PSU, no issues.
Would emulation be something you're interested in benchmarking? Emulation could bring new life to these older components and it would definitely be nice to see how they perform!
Just a tip for you guys, when you use an airblower on any fan try to hold the fan with your hands because the high pressure air damages the fans motors when fans run anticlock wise (I mean fans opposite direction)
i was looking for this comment to add if not here
That’s a myth, does no harm to a fan, if you find evidence please send me it as this discussion is decades old.
@@gloomyvale3671 My friend had a Rtx 2080 ti and it's fan motors were damaged and didn't turn on
Consider an AliExpress Xeon, they are equivalent to i7, with hyperthreading but locket multiplier and without integrated graphics, but that works wonders on this case, cheap CPU upgrade to be able to spend a little more on the GPU and add that sweet extra 8gb stick of RAM.
I'd be interested in a maxed out episode; something like an i7-4790/s, 16GB RAM, and a 1650/1660 Super, provided the PSU can support the 1660 Super.
Such a nice case. You could perhaps build a modern pc in this case? Slim psus are available these days even in beefier specs.
If anything, 350W is more than enough for a cute little gaming rig with 12100 and, let's say, an RX6600...
If it’s standard ITX then I’d like to see a B650 board with one of the upcoming 7000 APUs
@@andyshtroymish4997 even i5 12400f and rx 6600 is anough because it is like 70 watt worst case and rx 6600 only use 100 watt
Can you do a video showing how well integrated graphics (both intel and amd) work with upscaling methods? (FSR and XeSS if it works)
and of course overclock it to boot to show off what it can do if you push it to the limit he just needs to upgrade the cooler for the cpu to see how far the cpu and gpu can be pushed for max performance
PSU looks like one of those flex server type ones. Perhaps it can be replaced to 500w ones at least? I believe Dawid Does Tech Stuff might have a video where he reviewed and updated this PC this year
I'm more concerned about the proprietary looking CPU cooling solution and lack of space for graphics card space, since upgrading this to sth more modern like a 9th gen Intel + gtx 1060 level GPU sounds more fun to me.
9th gen i7/i9 is over kill for a 1060 if u can upgrade the PSU to a more high wattage u can easily run a i7/i9 9th gen with a 3070
Good upgrade:
CPU: i7-4790K (slightly beats the i7-5775c, should be undervolted, no OC)
RAM: 16GB 1600MHz Kit
GPU: GTX 1660 (power efficient, could also be undervolted a bit, but still capable especially with its 6GB of vram)
or a GTX 1650S (only 4GB of vram, but would be cheaper and only draws 100 watts compared to 120 with the 1660)
Also an upgrade to an SSD would help.
All of these should be able to fit within the 350 watt budget pretty well.
Ain't the B85 motherboard in the video going to limit the DDR3 Ram to 1600Mhz?
@@ptzzz oh crap, you’re right! Thanks for the tip.
You could do a £150 budget upgrade. 1650 for around 90 - 100, 4C8T xeon processor for around 30, an extra stick of ram for 15. Could be a viable 1080p gamer!
Good idea 👍
Major disappointment! I couldn't sit without telling you this - 1:56
I expected "slow motion" to be much slower!
JK =) Thanks for another video, man! Great job, keep it up and I hope there will be more filthy bargains in future!
Edit: P.S. if you'll manage to get i5 for a decent price and if here is some wiggle in budget - you might be able to find (yes, finding it - definitely the hardest part, but I actually did it twice) compact version of 4GB RX470 (Sapphire, Zotac or PowerColor versions - that's all I've seen) which may luckily survive all waves of mining "booms" - this could be a huge step up + squeezing older i5 and RX470 shouldn't be a problem for 350W PSU
2:04 The tinkling of piano keys, the sepia-toned nostalgia: it's like Christmas - if the snow were filthy dust particulates.
What about using an external power supply to provide enough power to the GPU? That way you wouldn't have to struggle to find one that fits in the case. There's one Dell power brick that works well for powering GPUs.. can't think of the model number off of the top of my head, but it works well. I used one in an MSI Trident to power a RTX 2070 about a year ago and it worked great.
That would be a good idea slapping a extra PSU on the outside for the GPU haha
Lean, Mean, Grillin, I mean Gaming Machine, nice quote for a T-Shirt
😂
According to the manual you have to click the OC Genie button in the BIOS to overclock. The B85 only has limited overclocking capabilities.
I think a 4790S and 1050Ti would be a good pairing, sure a maxwell low to mid tier card may be cheaper but on the constraints of the PSU, those 2 and an SSD would probably make all the difference...or you could be a madman and put in a GTX1630..finally a use case!
Yeah that's what I was thinking! Save the 1050Ti's for better systems - the PSU has a 6 pin power connector, but the 1630 is a low power card (75W). So definitely go for the GT 1630 - at least there's a use case for that horrid GPU!
Regarding CPU's, if you didn't want to use a specific low power CPU then an i5-4460, with a TDP of 84W, wuld probably be OK. I suppose you could underclock it somehow if you really wanted to.
@@TheSpotify95 imo the S spec quad core no HT i5s kinda hurt it..they need all the clockspeed they can get, but a lower clocked i7S with HT more than makes up for it, the e5 1320 v3 xeom ovee my 4570 was a big difference and locking it at boost was a great performance improvement when i could match the clock speeds with the extra cache and threads
I'd suggest upgrading with a socket 1150 Xeon, if the Bios supports it. They're usually cheaper than i7s and sip power
na do the diehard thing and put some c4 into it and set it to explode when someone hits ctrl alt del
There was a update some time... That you could only overclock with Z89 chipset boards, Before that update you could indeed use the B85 chipset to overclock...
Classic Intel and their artificial limitations...
Ah I briefly remember that actually.
They did that for my AsRock B85 board as well. I ran the old bios for years for that very reason. Recently, my G3258 became so unstable that it would crash all the time even stock, so I replaced it with a 4c8t Xeon that I managed to find for cheap.
I love the edit for the dusting. Very cinematic
Thanks :D
I have a '14 Nightblade (no surname, chipset z87i) bought new, and I'm using it to this day 50% of the days, still in its original setup but for a bigger SSD, and it has performed great, overclocked since day 1 with the stock cooler although slightly noisy even with a set of Noctuas. That model came only with the motherboard, the cooler and a nice 600w PSU, and I fitted a 4690k and an 280x card. I still play every now and then PUBG in it.
Too bad the one you have has that silly chipset. I guess a K processor might enable some tweaking.
By the way sir, you should tape the fan solid before blowing it, letting the fan frees pining will accident back short-circuit the GPU
The Pentium G3258, dang it has been a long time since you looked at one. Your overclocking video on it from way back in 2015 was what brought me to you channel.
A few ideas for upgrades:
CPU: Xeon E3 1240v3 / 1270v3 (similar to i7 4770 without iGPU)
RAM: DDR3 16gb 1600mhz
GPU: GTX 950 / GTX 1050 / GTX 1050Ti
Storage: Maybe a 500gb SSD and swap the slimline optical drive for one of those 2.5" drive to slimline drive adapters to make use of that space and add another drive.
The slimline drive adaptor I have is very limited in speed. I have a 1tb western digital blue that only runs at 80MBps in the adaptor, but can reach 120 directly on a sata plug.
Funny story, I had the adaptor in a box and a 500gb drive from something, so I bought a empty slim optical enclosure on Amazon for $5 and stuck it together. I named it pancake.
It's still slow at 30MBps via USB3.
Okay on that machine your best bet is to actually go for the I-5 processor because of the small form factor power supply and that will help a lot with the lag issues that you were experiencing while testing it with gaming also putting an SSD in it would work but I would recommend getting an SSD caddy adapter because they allow you to use the full speed of your drive no matter the sata 123 status of the drive controller
I don’t know anything about the old parts, but if you can somehow get the 1630 to work in there, i think we may have finally found a viable use for it
My thoughts exactly. We've finally found a use cae for the 1630 - low power requirement, but with the option of a separate power connector.
We have the same electric blower....one of my best buys ever saved so much money on canned air....highly recommend this to all
Ooo i miss these style of video , gg !
Just one little piece of an advice: when using compressed air for cleaning the inner stuff of the PC, just make sure to somehow block all the vents and prevent them not to spin all over the place, 'cause it can cause several different issues, including killing the GPU, killing the MB, etc. Great video though (as usual).
Comparison videos of upgrades would be fun to watch.
This was one of the most amusing episodes ever recorded. Your jokes were delivered perfectly! Kudos.
I had a Nightblade with a GTX 970, and its probably the most well-built pre-built PC I've ever seen, the layout was much better then the one in this, with the included aftermarket MSI GTX 970 dual fan card sucking in air straight through the case, keeping extremely cool temperatures, combined with a full size stock-cooler instead of the laptop-esque one in this PC. All this in a case that actually was smaller than this one. It was the version after this though, bought in 2015/2016, so they definitely improved over time.
330w is a lot more than you might think it is. 12400 + 3060 average power draw was only 380w. This little beast could probably fit a i7 4770S and a GTX 1070 in it comfortably.
Though let's not forget about effectiveness of old PSUs. Its real power should not exceed 300W for everything.
@@andyshtroymish4997 4770S + 1070 is gonna be 200ish watts mostly on 12v. This power supply is not gonna be so old that they have absurdly low 12v ratings like some REALLY old OEM supplies have.
Always enjoy a cleaning montage.
I always try to max out what the motherboard can handle. Max chip, most/fastest ram, and largest logical gpu to match the cpu. Then I hand it over to family or friends in need
i have had a few nightblades, and the PSU actually goes harder than you would expect, currently have an 8th gen nightblade that i upgraded to 32gb ram with a i7 9700 (non-k to save power) and a zotac 2070 SUPER. Temps are good and it games HARD. these are awesome little beasts and are the PERFECT compact rig to run on the tv in your loungeroom.
did you upgrade it yourself? i have an i5 7400 with a GTX1060 and was wondering if i could swap out the motherboard to upgrade the pc at some point
Would love to see this thing getting modernist components and getting upgraded
Seems like a good candidate for a 1050ti :)
Cleaning feels like im in canada in autumn season
I had a similar spec Dell Machine, after selling some insides I managed to grab an i7 4770k for £30 and a 750ti for £25 and I'm pretty happy with it!
Nice :)
You can pair gtx 1060/1070 easily
My newest and most powerful PC has MSI H81M-P33 (BIOS looks the same as the one in this video), i7 4790, 16GB DDR3 1866MHz, R9 270 2GB in an Acer Aspire M1930 case (reused the case from my first PC). It's running Windows 11 and it's pretty good for gaming at 1366x768. Honestly the 2GB VRAM on the GPU is the limiting factor (I think). Bought the motherboard, CPU and RAM from my sister for $80 after she upgraded her PC and I bought the GPU for $35 before the first increase in prices. Pretty happy with the performance playing games like Cyberpunk (on Mid to High settings) and the newest Saints Row (at low to mid settings). Though this is not my main PC, I still prefer my Acer IPISB-CH, i7 2600s, 16GB DDR3 1600MHz, RX460 4GB (motherboard, CPU cooler and DVD drive from my first PC) with Windows 7 for everything else besides playing modern games (Cyberpunk is playable, newest Saints Row doesn't run on Win7 sadly, GTA Online runs great though).
I had the z97 nightblade barebones kit... That sadly didn't come with the advertised water cooler. Apparently the micro center version didn't include it. Though I think maybe it was Frys. Took a while to find a tower cooler to fit, but I found one with dual 90/92mm fans. Masscool or deepcool, one of those 2. I later salvaged a fan from an hp omen's dead water cooling system (bad pump). This fan was clear and had red LEDs. It was also borderline server fan because it was louder than an fx 5900 ultra! Thankfully it had decent settings for that in bios, only going to extreme mode when things got really hot.
I5 4570k, 16gb ddr3 2400 (yes ddr3 went that fast) 120gb ssd with win7 (later 10), 2tb spinner, msi gtx 970. It had a 600w power supply.
Watching the dusting of the PC in slow mo was so satisfying! Thank you! Made my evening! Btw i would like to see more co-op videos with your sister. Together you make pretty funny videos! :)
Thumbs up from me!
I just did something similar with an MSI Trident 3. Kind of the spiritual successor to this machine. Added a 1tb nvme and 2060 since it was the highest power card I could with the 230w external power brick. Gonna be my new LAN rig.
You can use Xeon E3 v3 Chips in desktop boards for 4th Gen Intel - I picked up an E3 1240 v3 (4c 8t 3.5GHz) for £35 On ebay so much cheaper than 4770 Prices. I reckon a 1050 Ti Would go well with a decent CPU In there - they seem to go for 60 to 70 on Facebook marketplace these days
A nightblade was my first ever pc back in the day when I was still a teenager with a limited budget. Had an i5 6400 and gtx 960 in it. I was super happy with finally having my own gaming pc although it was very underwhelming at the time
Haha I’ve got the same handheld pc cleaner! Works a treat!
2:15 Should stick a small wire tire/ zip tie/ q tip or something to prevent the fan from spinning out of control.
2:48
If nobody has commented it yet, I'll. I laughed out loud hearing you saying that as serious as possible. I like how you're making more jokes :)
Cool that you showed the GT 740 in combination with the 12400F. I wondered how much the G3258 held back the GT 740. Thanks for adressing that!
As for the new GPU: a single-fan GTX 950 should fit in there as a cheap option. Otherwise a 1050Ti or 1650 would be a massive upgrade.
The dust was on par to the Dell T7610 which I bought recently. Seller was a bulk re-seller and did not bother to clean it, even has the ID from a well-known gaming development company!
I'd maybe try upgrading it to a i7-4790S which has a slightly higher TDP but 4 cores and 8 threads., max it's ram out to 16 GB, and it looks like that computer should have shipped with a GTX 960 2 GB according the MSI website, so maybe try using a GTX 960, or perhaps a GTX 1650 since it supposedly has lower power consumption and is a bit newer. Oh and most importantly ditch the mechanical drive, or make a secondary with an SSD as the OS drive.
Yeah, upgrade that little beast
Looking forward to that video))
I5 gtx 1050ti ssd
That'd be great
Ayy we got the same air duster! Ngl best buy i ever got, saves so much time.
That’s one dirty pc, praise the lord for dust filters and screens.
When I clean mine I’m shocked on how much builds up over a month. To think what my system would look like without them horrifies me.
Irrelevant but I really like how you are always so honest with reviews
a 1050 ti would be a good card for that PC with an i5/i7. You can get those without a power connector and they're pretty cheap now
Or a 1650.
Isn't it bad for the gpu fan to be spun involuntarily, I heard that the card could die from electrical current the fan can generate.
Hey RamdomGaming! I was leaning towards a 1650 super GPU upgrade with CPU and Memory as well? I like these small form factor setups and can't wait to see what you come up with.
I feel like the CPU cooler is going to be the limiting factor. Otherwise a 4770 assuming you can power limit it would've done great, maybe a 4770T with a SFF GPU, i think with a 3050 or maybe a 6600M you could get a sick combination going there or maybe if you find an used single fan 1060 that would work nicely as well. Could even check if the SFF motherboard is standard ITX and if it's possible to replace it with a newer motherboard though i don't think it's worth it.
I think a 1650Super is ideal for this, less power consumption than a 1060 6GB with about the same performance (a touch more) so a bit less heat in the box and a bit less strain on the PSU. 16GB RAM, a cheap SSD and if you can deal with the cooling maybe a 4770 or low TDP version of an i7 would be pretty decent for a 1080P gaming machine. You could always put a 1660S in but as my old 1060 6GB was a bit bottlenecked by my 4770 machine I'm not sure how much extra benefit you would get.
i7-4770s is only £30 at CEX - i5-4590 is only about 8 quid - either would be sensible upgrade options here.
If that BIOS exposes ReBAR support, an ARC card with an older i7 in there would make a delightful video.
I believe this is the only tech RUclipsr who asks for dislike. This explains the transparency in his nature. Much love from Pakistan.
I would worry about wattage and overheating, so a lower TDP chip would be ideal. Fortunately, that includes even some Xeon chips.
I bought that exact blower on your recommendation as i seem to be the designated family pc cleaner anyway.
Steve's such a nice guy, he gave his bald neighbor a nice lush full head of hair c:
Without adding a better power supply you could probably get away with a i7-4790S with a gtx 970. Its just hard to find a GPU that need less than 350W. Saying that looking at what cards actually use you could probably put in a gtx 1070 which would make the system a great 1080p PC once you don't run into a cpu bottleneck. Can the case fit a card longer than the once in there ? It looks like a card could fit past the drive cage.
Nahimic is actually pretty cool, makes the speakers in my laptop WAY better
I love that you almost lost it at your own joke there
1050ti is your boy I reckon, runs straight off the pcie slot with no additional psu cables, pair that with an I7 4770 and you've got yourself a pocket rocket there, nice fun little rig mate, perfect for GTAIV and V.
Ah man, this is from that "sweet spot" where I have no idea about "current" stuff of the time. At the time, I was having it a bit rough, to the point that my old Athlon failing me lead to me buying a second hand P4 for a tenner just because I needed a working computer and selling the majority of my collection of consoles and games(only stuff I'd never played for years and didn't plan to either) just to eat.
Talking of that old Athlon, that computer was dirtier than that thing currently is, and it's been sat in the corner of this room, sides off, collecting dust for like 10 years. And I practically chain smoke. I have no idea what you'd need to do get a computer looking like that.
this would make a cool high end windows xp machine.I see people making XP machines with 4th gen i5's and gtx 960's but I dont see the point in getting 500 FPS in XP games, even old benchmarks like 3dmark 2000 cap out at 999 fps on there counter lol.
Yeah, 60 is ok for most xp games. Most of them even break or crash above that, so I dont even get why would anyone would try to run those above 60, unless they really, really want to match their monitor's refresh rate.
Man... that G3258. I had one in my file server that I overclocked to 4GHz for some reason. Good little CPU until the locked it down.
I think the RX 470/570 would be great in this system ... maybe combined with i5, i7 or Xeon. Or keep it as it is and use for XP / Vista era games like Far Cry, Crisis and Doom 3 and so on.
Amd gpu's are bad
@@gejamugamlatsoomanam7716 It depends on the usecase. For Raytracing AMD is pretty bad. And when you want the top of the line cards AMD is probably also not good but for Linux for example Nvidia is bad. And when it comes to price to performance ratios older AMD cards are actually quite good.
@@caliban8960 I mean, top of the line for gaming and high FP calculs it's on pair with Nvidia and superior in some cases.
@@marcosassari5603 For sure. I personally use an AMD GPU and I like it a lot. Haven't followed out the high end gpus to much since I don't need them. I just remembered that a couple years ago nvidias top performer where the fastest cards on the market.
Haswell is weaker than the Xbox Series S CPU, this is more of a PC for the PS4 era and before.
Nice. There is a gamer in everyone.
Wow! never ever let the fan free spin while cleaning! It can cause not only the fan to fail but can produce an electrical charge that could fry your video card or other parts of the computer. If your fans have LEDs and you spin them, they will light up and that shows they are producing an electric charge!
Maybe a small form factor 1050 or 1050ti would be a good choice for that system. Both are still Relatively solid cards that are not too power hungry.
Amazing.
RGHD is becoming more and more an Dust Blowing ASMR Enthusiast Channel hahha.
love this video, the emotional support clips made me laugh hard 😆
About cleaning fans with air, i always wonder about if it's necessary to lock the propeller to avoid that the fan becomes an alternator. I don't know if these worries make sense or not, does somebody have actual knowledge about this ? Are components protected against electric bursts coming in from fan side nowadays ?
My guess wold be, it depends on your duster's speed, which should not be that high since most of'em aren't that powerful and have relatively low pressure stats...
@@andyshtroymish4997 yes, it's definately a point how much air gets pushed / sucked through the fans .. i've seen using people a (full size) vacuum cleaner to get rid of the dust, of course they put the vacuum cleaners hoseas close as possible to get all the dust - what made the fan sound like a jet engine for short moments. This is where my concerns come from, i just don't know if those concerns are legit.
Would have been a perfect candidate for Greg's PCDC series 🙂
Good old Compu Cleaner worth every penny for one of those bad boys.
if you are strictly upgrading the CPU/GPU i would suggest an i7-4770s to help keep the temps down and something modern but not overkill, like a gtx 1060. you definitely want to keep everything in check, not sure how much power the PSU puts out
I'd be interested in watching both a budget upgrade and "all out" upgrade. Regardless, great content as always!
why dose everyone store their grandparents in their pc's that is so gross
People looking clean on the outside, dirty on the inside
Love this channel. Thank you so much.
Thanks for watching :)
I think a gtx 980 will suffice although it will definitely kill the PSU, but the PSU upgrade is the least of your headaches. The 12th gen Intel is kind of a overkill in this system...
He just threw that card in his main PC. We don't know if this case even fit for standard ITX, let alone the PSU! Plus, this adds another important problem for any SFFs: heat dissipation.
@@andyshtroymish4997 True! Haven't thought of the case...
G'day Random Steve,
I'd go with a i7-4770 with a GTX1650Super or 4770S with 1660,
one of these combinations at about 200W should still be possible with the original PSU allowing for the Mobo, RAM, Fans & SSD + HDD overhead
I'm curious to see what you can do with upgrading this PC. My condolences to your now not bald neighbor.
If you deck it out with an i7, 16GB dual channel ram and a GTX 1650 it would be a very dandy little machine. One of my kids has a Dell Optiplex with an i5 3570, 16GB ram and a GTX 1650 and he can play pretty much anything modern on medium and older stuff on high and very high.
id like to see the plaform maxed out honestly, first with the standard psu, then maybe with a upgraded psu to suit a newer adequate gpu
OMFG!!! Why theres sooooo many dust in his PC!? The previous owner lived in a dusty wonderland?
nice lil case, but yeah, mini itx with this plataform, adn that cpu-gpu combo... is too weak...
Wouldn't mind getting one of these even in this spec here in Staffordshire
That’s a really cool case, it would fit perfectly for me as I got an msi gpu rx6600 and an msi laptop. Now I need to have one of those cute msi dragon plushies🥰