What the HELL was I Eat Pasta For Breakfast!?
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- Опубликовано: 29 июл 2024
- What the Hell was I Eat Pasta For Breakfast?
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TIMESTAMPS:
0:00 INTRO
1:40 THE “SUMMARY”
18:28 FINAL THOUGHTS
30:15 OUTRO - Кино
The twinkification of all creepypasta characters is NOT a phase in the fandom that I miss💀
I'm redesigning some of creepypastas and rewriting there stories. I'm trying not to make them all look like twinks but I'm still learning how to draw different bodies.
Masky got the worst of it 💀
,,Slender! Put on the Maid Outfit!"
I thought that fandom died
THE WHAT..?
Even as a preteen, Lazari morphing from an 8 year old into a 12 year old, and then Jack catching feelings immediately felt so uncomfy 🤢
WAIT HE DID? I THOUGHT HE HATED HER😭😭😭
@@Lotuzes He was soooo conflicted after she got older, which is crazy cause her getting older was her being 12 🤢🤢😭🤢
@@AJtheSiren NO WAY.
@@AJtheSiren Ew, I thought he was uncomfortable having an older Lazari around.. I didn't think THAT 🤢
I also REALLY hate how we were encouraged to ship Lazari and Jack back then.. A grown man and a preteen..
(Ps on the creator of Lazari remaster comic of the I eat pasta thing. You can spot a few incest moments between Lazari and her "adoptive" older brother..)
I mean, if you think about it... they ARE creepypasta monsters, they ARE supposed to be evil
Zalgo being a twink was like getting whiplash😭
Okay but his hair is definitely trolls-like. my first thought was lego ninjago lord garmadon s1 without the helmet. my second thought was heath burns from monster high. I nearly cried when I pulled the images up side by side
@@Someone-or8tp ‘trolls-like’ PLS IM SHARTING CHRISTMAS TREE DECORATIONS😭
@@CYBERSTRAWB I'M CACKLING 😂
Ngl i kinda wish this comic was just found family fluff, it has the perfect set up for that.
Honestly, maybe someone can rewrite it type stuff on ao3 💀
@@Cali_wcGachaYes!! I would love that
@@Cali_wcGachaI'm thinking about doing that
@@shippergirl1000if you are pls tell me. No pressure tho :3
@@shippergirl1000 Ohhh! I’m also lowkey thinking about remaking the Slenderverse family! Though, to be fair, I only really know MH so it’ll probably be more based on that lol. Please link if you make it!
Not only is Masky supposed to be chubby, he's also a grown ass man, and why does he sound like tha-
I swear this comic ruined how people see masky, the character who has one word in the entire 9 hours of marble hornets
Nah that viewpoint was a thing before the comic. Sadly this comic solidified these false views on the characters
@@21Handguns I'm so glad I never watched this series as a kid, I had a crush on the MH Tim (still do) for his size and handsome features, 14 year old me wouldn't have settled for this
@@oscaruncomfortableOH MY GOD YOU HAVE A CRUSH ON HIM TOO I THOUGHT I WAS ALONE
Masky was ruined a long time before that comic came around. Even further back, this is based on comic dubs by Madame Macabre, than this comic's release there were issues with how Masky was portrayed. This has been a long standing issue within the fandom, this comic is just an easy source of said issues to point to at this point.
@@oscaruncomfortableI do too your not alone lol😭
I do find it a bit odd that Lazari, a child was all the sudden turned into an anime girl...
fr, and she was supposed to be 12?? bro I thought she had just speedran childhood and turned into an adult 😭
IKR? like why is she so suddenly grown up????
she’s meant to be a C H I L D
Fr they gave her a figure of a full on adult, not a 12 years old 😭😭
i find it less weird when i remember lazari was a self insert of the creator (or just a really bad mary sue); the change was probably a kid just trying to feel more adult. idk much about the creator of i eat pasta for breakfast but it just seems really likely that is the case. we don't really know how old the creator is but i dislike thinking of the worst possible scenario and saying the change was simply for uhhh... less than favorable reasons.
@@1800PAlN This is something I thought of too. The nature of the comic definitely gives it the feeling of that being a self insert.
Ohhh I remember this comic... and personally I loved the idea of the creepypasta characters being one big family and hanging out and I wish the comic was just wacky slice of life shenanigans rather than.... whatever the heck happens later...
Oh, that's the Tumblr Ask Blog genre that always makes for the best stories...
We should start doing that again :)
MEEEE TOOO i would imagine myself hanging out with them as one big family thanks to the comic dub
i only got so far
Check the Aely Artist version!
For real it's been hears since I last saw this but I remember loving the begging with her being a kid and stuff, I never really like the '2nd' arc with her being an adult, it always felt weird and kinda boring
@@Alienaddikt Oh that versionis good but there is no english subtitles available for it :(
I will never get over the fact that Jane just fucking dies and no one gives a shit or mentions her
Also in a lot of fan works I’ve seen the slender man keeps the proxies memories so that they are easier to manipulate
For example, if I remember correctly, Toby doesn’t remember his mother or his sister, lyra, but he does remember how abusive his father was and that supposedly the slender man gave him the strength to finally kill him, which is why Toby basically worships the slender man
It does vary a lot tho since almost the entirety of creepypasta is fan made, and a lot of the characters and stories have been changed because of how nonsensical and problematic they are
First time I watched this when I was like 9, I had no clue who any of these characters were, but I immediately decided that Jeff was my least favorite because he let Jane die
I KNOW. one of the most iconic members :(( poor jane
All i thought was what did jane ever do to the creator
@@rosemary3029 not like Jeff ig
I'm excited, I actually watched some of there comic dubs before they disappeared.....You know before everything......Why does everything I used to like end up becoming weird
Yeah same here , when I was younger I watched videos of someone dubbing it but I don’t think I finished it but I used to like it
What happened
Please explain
Let's just say, The implications on the comic have now dawned on me.....
@@bryangallows657 I’m not really sure , but I would assume something bad maybe?
I've been revisiting old childhood favourites of mine, and holy shit I never realized how fucking WEIRD the dynamics are. Like I Eat Pasta for Breakfast + Springtrap and Delilah I never actually realized how weird the writing and characters are until recently lmfao
okay it annoys me so much that its actually DELIAH without the second L like dude thats so awkward why wasn't it deliLah
Yes! 100% its interesting how differently you view things at different ages
Don’t forget abt Pjs daycare. That was a ride for sure
@@Spacingout3000 SO FUNNY ENOUGH I never watched/read PJs Daycare LMAO. I wasn't too fond of the other Undertale AUs (other than Underfell & Horror) so PJs Daycare never piqued my interest.
@@princessquack6643 And that's what makes it so weird! Because i remember half of these things being child-friendly and not concerning at all
WHY DOES TIM (masky) SOUND LIKE THAT
WHERE IS HIS FACIAL HAIR
WHY WERE HIS EYES BLUE EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE BROWN IN REALITY?
AND MOST IMPORTANTLY,
WHY DOES HIS HAIR LOOK LIKE HE STOLE JUSTIN BIEVERS HAIR FROM THE "BABY" SONG LMAO
My guess is probably an attempt to not get confused with the actor and character but who knows
@@Greenbeehivve nope. the fandom just had (has) a massive issue with twinkifying characters, and the version in iepfb was just the commonly accepted fanon characterization. tim/masky over time went from heavyset browneyed generic guy haircut morally grey character who was against the operator and only became masky when controlled, to a blueeyed twig of a man with 2008 brendon urie hair who is a "proxy" to slenderman. shit, the whole cheesecake thing the fandom loved so much was unfortunately an inside joke originally made to mock tim suttons weight. it sucked, hard. the marblehornets fanbase has gotten better in recent years, though.
That's exactly what I thought when I first watched the comic dub
They took away his defining features he looks like a different character
THIS COMIC WAS MY INTRODUCTION TO CREEPYPASTA SO I GENUINELY THOUGHT HE WAS A GIRL FOR THE LONGEST TIME 😭
Hi, one of the old VAs for IEPFB here (Stripes and eventually Lulu, Tobi cast someone else sometime during production). This was wild to see on my RUclips feed.
It's honestly crazy to look back at this so many years later. I remember I and some of my friends who were cast enjoyed this comic because we enjoyed the found family/Slendermansion idea that was shown a lot in the beginning. It definitely got more confusing as it went on. I do remember that Tobi gave us some of the ideas they had for the comic, although since it's been 8-10 years I do not remember them much. I do remember that Slender was gonna be the villain (it was meant to be a twist since Zalgo being the BBEG was the norm at the time with other comics like the Seer, Pasta Monsters and Creepypasta Chronicles), but that's about it. However, as things continued it definitely got too much. I also know people are complaining about the twinkification of the creepypasta characters (which is fair, I'm one of them nowadays) but I know that was a thing of the time, not just this comic.
With that said, Stripes definitely became my favorite character and she's one of my favorites to voice ever despite how much of a mess comic. In terms of Tobi, they were pretty alright from what I remember. If they did anything sketchy I wouldn't have known. They were just kinda a young adult (18-20) who was still in their edgy teen phase from what I could tell. Although take that with a grain of salt since I'm only one person who wasn't the closest to them. And with how much drama that went down in particular circles of the creepypasta content community it could be hard to say who was good and who was bad.
Thanks for doing this fun little retrospective of the comic. It definitely was a nice little blast of the past for me. :)
I'm gonna be honest the twist for Zalgo and Slender was poorly planned and executed; cause you cannot tell that I'm supposed to hate a guy (slender) who was very nice to Lazari to turn into an evil dickbag and the guy who straight-up assaulted/groomed a minor(zalgo) was the good guy all along? I feel like this was a last minute twist that chibi-works made somewhere in development.
@@Little_Eris I agree, it was poorly executed. That sort of twist could be really cool, but it wasn't done properly.
@@Little_Eris I mean sure, but the commenter here is a va, not a writer
Fun fact: Zalgo was made by Smorky, an old animator who also made the "this is fine" meme
Smorky permanently left the internet after being called out for doing NSFW roleplays with minors
I never really cared about zalgo as a character but damn.. What the fuck 😭
bro wtf😭
STOP ✋🏽
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I'm shocked
twink masky haunts me forever. every day i thank god that the fandom has turned around and started drawing tim chubby
Every time someone draws Tim chubby an angel gains it’s wings
@@SeveralRasInAJacket yer god damn right
I think it has less to do with the fact that people purposely drew masky as a twink and more as lots of people were beginner artists who weren’t able to handle drawing different body types that isn’t the typical bishie boy or the Barbie doll figure that you see in anime
@@veronicanaynamut5359 no dude. the fandom just wanted yaoi twinks
@@SeveralRasInAJacketyesss
I think the “curse” isn’t a literal curse and is actually just referring to infertility. That’s how I always interpreted it
I always thought it was because she was pregnant with lazari a child from a demon like being
This was literally the only exposure I had to creepypasta compared to just the images. I was in loveeee with this comic dub and would always go back to hear it again. Glad to hear I wasn’t the only one who had this experience.
Honestly same, I liked the comic a lot though. I don't remember most of this though
sameee, this was also my introduction to the fandom 💀
@@maxxcrafting7519 so real! i only vividly remember the first couple chapters word for word
Had the same experience. This was my introduction to Creepypasta as a whole. Going back, I realise things were a bit… strange to say the least.
@@Milestheflerken not just strange, it's absolutely just gross. Ive always felt uncomfortable reading this story when I was younger and now I just realized how bad it is 😅
That wiki is kinda unreliable but also the marble hornets characters (hoody and masky) weren’t even proxies in the Og source material. They were fighting against slenderman (the operator in MH), but it was early on in the story, it was unclear what side they were on so many people thought they were like underlings of him. Those roles for proxies weren’t made when they were made (or even the actual proxies like Toby and Kate) so that’s why none of the characters fit it.
istg the only reason people drew masky like that was this one shot in i believe a totheark video?? it's where he's facing the camera and there's heavy shadows across his face obscuring the actual eyeholes of his mask making it look like his eyes are just black. so kinda funny that it wasn't even marble hornets itself that inspired the fanon design, fans took literally one shot of the character and ran so damn far with it, to the point that the vast majority of fans back then had never even seen a single video from the channel.
wild shit.
@@LavenderTea-lr3hc I mean most of the time his eye holes looked black because the lighting in totheark videos was always dark as hell. Yeah for the rest though, 90% of masky and hoody fans didn’t even watch mh and just vaguely knew them from what other people in the fandom said which was mostly misinfo.
Yeah, Masky HATED the Operator. It’s also kind of implied that the Operator is his own schizophrenia coming into the real world, like an allegory for mental health. Or that’s what I think, at least.
Tim lost Brian and Jay because of the Operator. He screams when he sees him and has constant breakdowns because of him. He lost everything because of the Operator. To make the Slender Mansion idea work with Masky and Hoody, you’d have to involve a lot of bribery. Like maybe a way to communicate through the ark to talk to his friends in exchange for loyalty?
@@VoidMcNoid yeah, because the only ones who maintained some semblance of self were Brian and Tim, who were taking medication AGAINST the Operator (well, Brian was stealing it from Tim), whereas over time, you see Jay slowly become mad with the need for 'answers' to the point where he threatens Tim and Tim has to tie him up, and Alex is actively hunting down other people with the 'Operator Curse' and killing them. At least in my interpretation, Jay's involvement with Jessica was threatening her safety, and so Tim and Brian worked together to remove her from Jay before he could spread the Operator's influence to her. And at the end, we see Jessica and Tim talking with her being pretty well.
The ones taking medication were the ones with enough sanity to function without being entirely absorbed in their own goals, believing their way was the only right way, constantly throwing Jay off the path of discovery so as to not expand the Operator's influence and his own descent into madness. Jessica remained very much on the sidelines and was able to escape mostly unscathed. And we watch Jay and Alex become consumed by their own goals as worsened by the Operator's torment.
It was definitely a mental health allegory. I'm of the belief it was a commentary on how surrounding yourself with people who have a bad mental state will only worsen your own mental health issues until you become absorbed in your own collapse and drag others down with you. Jay and Alex became dangerous to those around them, with Jay dragging Tim back into the pits of his mental illness ("I was getting better!") and Brian purposefully manipulating him by withholding his medication and causing him seizures and distress with the intent to make him do what he wanted. Tim was trying to improve himself, but his association with the others' obsession was what reeled him back into the struggles he tried to leave in the past. It's only when each of them are removed that he's able to choose his own path and move forward.
Hhhhh IEPFB was my first introduction to Masky but now that I've watched Marble Hornets... this hurts me physically...... 😭😭😭😭
I feel you
Yeah.... I quite literally have to tell myself they aren't the same character....
@@Observer_Decay
I mean, they are? One is just heavily flanderised.
SAME, I feel so ashamed by my past self 😭
@purplepedantry I would say it's more infantilized than flanderized. And it strays so far from canon its practically a new character atp. The only thing they kept was the jacket & the mask (his body type, hair, personality, everything got scrapped away in the fanon/IEPFB design)
"What the HELL was I Eat Pasta For Breakfast!?"
IT WAS FUCKINNGGGG PEAKKKKKKKKKKKK. Ok, but in all seriousness, I remember seeing the comic dub of it back when I was a wee lil 12 year old. I got really invested with the story and went to DA to actually follow the artist. While I don't remember crap about what the story was even about that got me invested, I loved the artist's OC designs. The monster looking ones were pretty solid designs and that's why I kinda stuck around since I wanna see more of her OCs.
Years later, I forgot about its existence then remembered. So I checked in on what the artist is up to and saw that they kinda made a rework of the whole comic, but instead of the known creepypasta characters, they actually used their own OCs to replace the creepypasta characters from the original comic.
But yeah, the one thing I really remember about the comic is about Lazari's demon transformation and for some reason how her body stayed older??? Even I thought it was a bit questioning when I was younger, but I never really cared too much about it coz the demon design was kinda cool.
Oh what’s the rewrite called?
@@chocolatemilkshakes4991 It’s called The Demon Within! You can find it in Chibi Works’s deviantart, they made a gallery (like a folder) for the comic (the gallery itself is called “i eat pasta for breakfast Updated”) but I’m not sure if it’s still ongoing, I mean technically it sort of is but it was last updated in 2019 so..
@@chocolatemilkshakes4991replying bc I wanna know too
WHATS THE REWRITE CALLED PLS AM BEGGING YOU
It’s also called “I eat pasta for breakfast.” You can find it on Chibi Works deviant art in their gallery.
JANE DIDNT DESERVE THAT TREATMENT 💔💔
Right??? Early creepypasta fandom WAS SO mysogynistic too other female creepypasta characters its insane
@@nothingspecial7539OKAY BUT WHY ARE YOU SO CORRECT. Looking at that time now, there was A LOT of that back then. Even fictional serial killer women couldn’t catch a break 😭😭😭😭
My only experience with it eat pasta for breakfast was seeing a dub in my youtube recommended at like 12 years old and being genuinely confused about what it was. like i was pondering why someone would eat pasta for breakfast and what it had to do with the tall creepy suit guy
REAL, I remember when I was 11 my friend told me to watch the comic dub and it seemed really dumb but then I was invested and watched it every night after school. After that I began the spiral into other content like Ask Ticki Tobi (idk how to spell it) and non creepy pasta stuff that most kids watched when they weren't supposed to (salad fingers, llamas in hats, don't hug me I'm scared, avas demon, Becky Prim, etc.)
i vaguely remember talking with my online friends about it being a stupid name because it had nothing to do with slenderman
Edit: This was addressed as a problem with the comic in the video, still gonna keep this comment up tho lmao.
Judging from this video (I only read a little bit of this comic as a kid), I find it nuts that at the beginning of the story slenderman was portrayed as like a nice fatherly figure with a hint of moral dubiousness with a found family of fellow monster people and then later on is just a full on abusive person. And the rest of the gang being like his lackey's.
Even like the potrayal of Zalgo went from crappy disgusting awful guy to at the end a silly goose. That’s so odd in my opinion, it felt like the story was going into a different direction (even if it’s likely it wasn’t planned) in the beginning to be honest.
They did masky so dirty….it’s insane 😭
I swear, 90% of fan stuff involving masky completely ignores the marble hornets canon, like it's so hard to find art that doesn't make him a twink.
1- Despite how cringe my creepypasta phase was I enjoy every moment of it
2- I wish the comic was more character driven and slice of life. With some save the world aspect. Like just focus on the main proxy dynamic with each other as they have this found family aspect as Lazari try to get use to have a healthy and normal family.
3- I think it’ll be fine if Lazari had a crush on (great I forgot his nam 😅) as long as the older party doesn’t receptacle those feelings. Showing young kids that’s it’s normal to have crushes on older party figure as long as that older party doesn’t have a crush on them.
4- great video and keep up the amazing work 🎉
Eyeless Jack. Or EJ for short and thank you for mentioning that! I was so uncomfortable with how that pairing was. Like no... Just no. He's an adult and I can agree that adults shouldn't be returning a child's romantic feelings. Is it weird a child has adult crushes? Yeah, but I can agree that is very normal.
between this vid and a tiktok mentioning the comic, been getting hit with a ton of memories about this series
i used to be friends with ChibiWorks/Tobi on Deviantart a few years before she started making this comic, but that inevitably fell apart when she and i went into different fandoms.
the introduction of overpowered OCs was one of her storywriting traits, as we were working on a fantasy series together and i had to constantly have my OC fight her OC on who was the strongest character
she was fun to talk to, but seeing this comic after ten years, i’m cringing at all the stuff with Lazari and Lulu bc we didn’t know better back then (especially had we known that 9 year olds would be reading this comic 😵)
Oh yea the who ___erman brother thing was a huge trend back in the day I think. Arguably the best one is Splendorman bc he's jus a silly guy!! (tho ppl made him like. "obsessively overprotective YanDere brother!" type.)
The WORST one is Offenderman btw imo
reminds me of all of the variants of kaito that were supposed to be brothers in the early vocaloid fandom
Fun fact of the day, Splendorman was made by Neil Cicierega, fucking Leon Demon himself
Yeah, I agree with your takes. Another highlight is Ilikemendermen tho lol, the fact that it originated from a single picture and it's just a funny little joke :P
@@fallowhorn404 OH MY GOD NEIL CICEREGA !!!!!!
@@fallowhorn404 ong lemof demof
I remember when this comic was ridiculously popular among the fandom, but even then as a kid, I hated this comic with a PASSION 😭😭 I only hated it because I thought it was a 'dumb mary sue comic' and I hated the fact that they had OCs in it when I wanted a story with the popular characters. Now years later after seeing your video, it's made me fully realize this comic was indeed poorly written, and pretty gross, and very dumb. Loved your review on it!
She is kind of a Mary Sue character though
@@Fizzy_moth7I feel like Lazari(although I agree she was kinda sue-ish) had good story potential and deserved so much better to be in a better written horror story than in the current iepfb.
@@Little_Eris would it be wrong to re-write it? I kinda wanna do that
@@Fizzy_moth7go for it I don't think it'd be wrong especially since this story is now a good amount of years old
@@DreammyNightc0re yaaaaay!
I watched this series as a kid and Lazari inspired so many edgy OCs for me 💀
bro, i remember watching I Eat Pasta For Breakfast as a kid (not the original one i think) and i thought Masky was a girl cause of the voice, the TWINKIFICATION
i havent watched Marble Hornets or any other things, so imagine how surprised I was to learn Masky was a GROWN MAN
NO LITERALLY I WAS SO SHOCKED WHEN I FOUND OUT HE WAS A GIRL..
there's another webcomic I remember seeing a few years ago about a zombie girl who... had ice powers I think?? It was a long time ago, but it must still be on RUclips, right? man where did this idea of creepypastas living in a mansion come from? And I'm not even complaining, it's actually funny!
Omg I remember that one too!
I remember that one too! I remember liking the ice girl's design a lot.. wait I still like it though
If I remember right it was called "Creepy Frozen Pasta"
OMG, ANNIE WIGHT.. I lowkey kinda hated her and her comics
@@Reddyicecream Could you say why? I guess it's another one of those silly fanfics that characterize the characters in a generic way, but is there any specific reason to not like the comic? I personally just lost interest after a while.
IT DID NOT AGE WELL AT ALL. I'd never want to touch it ever again 😭😭😭 Though my Creepypasta phase wasn't so bad. Questionable content consumed but my most favourites were listening to others reading them ✨ Especially by this one artist named Jordan I think??? I forgot his name, it's been forever
Despite that, I enjoyed the video so worth the ride
The artist you are referring to might be Jordan Persegati.
JORDAN PERSEGATI! He was the lifeblood of my creepypasta phase.
Candy Pop creepypasta would be a fun cover, there is a whole ton of information from his Umbra version too his huge family tree, to the creepypasta lore
Yea the whole thing about lazaris mother kinda reminded me of him
Candy Pop mentioned
CANDY POP!!! YASSSS HES SOO UNDERRATED ISTG
The visceral reaction i had to seeing the title on my reccomend 😔
This isnt /neg to the video btw, this comic had just been DEEP in my supressed memories
I remember watching the dub video so much back in 2019,,,,,,,,
That mere title gave me whiplash
i wish it was way shorter
AHHHH WAIT THIS IS WHERE LAZARI CAME FROM?????? I literally just saw her in other fanart and stuff I'm 😭😭
Ya, I saw her in, like, a Creepypasta Roblox game and I was so confused on you she was
i'm sure this has been done to death in the comments already, but quick note since you said you never watched marble hornets!
the concept of proxies actually does not exist in the marble hornets canon (at least not the webseries - i've never read the comics lol)!! i THINK (but do not remember fully so correct me if i'm wrong) that the concept of a "proxy" of slenderman originated with toby or another slenderverse project, but masky and hoodie were never intended on being that in their original media and it's entirely a fanon concept for them to be!
@@rebdot Comic reader here, can confirm they are NOT canon in the comics either LMAO. The closest thing to a proxy would probably be Alex, and even he hates The Operator 😭
I had to actually take a moment and pause when this popped up on my feed because I was SO CLOSE to finally forgetting about this comic and now suddenly everything is coming back. Dear god.
(Also the Ticci Toby thing is so real I was literally in love with that man)
All those horrible GC and fanfics coming back into my mind after almost being suppressed is some real pain fr
I’ll die on the hill that i eat pasta for breakfast had potential, cuz it was really going somewhere, idk where, and it had people hooked but something was cooking, but then the creator burned it by being weird 😭
Just an fyi for some of yall but the entire creepypasta fandom draws Masky slim and not chubby. And honestly i see nothing wrong with his voice (some ppl in the comments are saying “why does he sound like that”). Not everyone is good at voice acting 😭 and i think they were on a time crunch to get the comic out. Comics/stories are annoying to make 😿 i just think they were having fun with it. Also Lazari seemed like a Mary sue in this story almost
no he sounded like that cuz noone actually friggin watched marble hornets back then lol
@@LavenderTea-lr3hc or maybe his VA was just having fun or had very little experience voice acting? They were most likely limited on time and options. Its really not that serious😿
@@wuvh3art i wasnt being overly serious thats the actual truth man, you're the one making a reason up. like i was there i know for a fact its just because noone actually knew the character
@@LavenderTea-lr3hc the way u worded ur reply sounded like u were being serious. How am i making a reason up? Ur not making sense brother im sorry ☠️ im just trying to give the benefit of the doubt
If I remember correctly, the VA was also the VA for Masky in the Seer, which had a characterization of him being more of a meek boy. It worked since he kept getting the role in other projects and became a popular voice for Masky in the fandom at the time.
I am convinced we just had the exact same childhood
This is a great video!! I'm glad that people are talking about just how strange this comic is.
At around 22:47 you start consulting the Wiki about the rankings and I will say that it probably isn't the *best* source? Unlike a typical fandom, the Creepypasta Fandom doesn't really have much of a strict canon. Since basically every character has been created by fans, the lore often changes to fit different stories.
The proxy ranking on the Wiki is usually not commonplace in a lot of works. From my experience, most people tend to separate the character into two groups, Proxies, and Pastas.
Proxies are essentially the leaders, the ones directly under Slenderman who usually maintain the most control. Most commonly, these are characters like Masky, Hoody, Kate the Chaser, and Toby, though there are more. Pastas are basically everyone else. Killers who usually have some freedom and personality that do not have the authority of the Proxies. Some examples would be Jeff, BEN and Eyeless Jack.
My main point with this was originally that there's no strict canon within the Creepypasta universe, so IEPFB's interpretation isn't "technically" incorrect in that regard, not that it matters with all of the other problems within the series.😭
Something else to mention is that funnily enough, Marble Hornets isn't technically part of the Creepypasta universe? The creature haunting the characters is actually named The Operator, and while it shares a resemblance to Slenderman, it's been confirmed to be a separate entity. Not only that, but Masky and Hoody actively work against it! I always found this a bit funny seeing as how they're usually portrayed as Slenderman's most loyal servants within Creepypasta media lololol. Even the names "Masky and Hoody" were fanon. In the series, they're known as Tim and Brian, their masked personas are nameless. Though the Marble Hornets creators has begrudgingly accepted the odd nicknames, despite their dislike of them.
I didn't actually have a point with this I just really love ranting about this stuff because its SO interesting to me!! This is not meant to be a critique at all, I'm just rambling. Again, great video!!! :)
For 24:25, while a lot of stories do involve Slenderman removing the memories of the Creepypastas, (Ex. Ticci Toby) they don't necessarily have to be removed! There are a lot of stories involving characters retaining their memories too :)
Lmao,you're so me.Toby used to be my first hyperfixation that lasted longer than one month.I personally stopped reading because Toby stopped appearing 😂. Ben is 12 so him hitting on lulu isn't really a problem.
Ok I’m really curious, where did the whole Ben is 12 thing come from? From what I’ve seen of the original arg, his age is never really given, and he’s portrayed more as an ageless entity rather than any specific age.
@@noirethorne OK so I went ahead and looked up the age of Ben and I have the Wikipedia article, this is a sentence from it: "Jadusable, after hearing from the neighbor as to what happened in the house that the old man lived in, concludes that the cartridge is possessed by the spirit of its previous owner, a 12-year-old boy named Ben who had drowned almost eight years prior."
twink zalgo was the original hazbin hotel lucifer
alastor zalgo omfg 😭😭🙏
JEFF THE UNALIVER LMAO
when i was 10, i enjoyed this comic a bunch. then they stopped posting and it was sad. ever since then i just forgot about it. now that im almost 19, i find it extremely weird how lazari, a child, just randomly turned into a grown adult and etc.
God, I used to love IEPFB so much, I was *obsessed* with it. The idea of the creepypastas all living together in a found family has always been so interesting to me, but good lord I forgot how insane and not at all that this comic was. I think it also introduced me to the names Lulu and Lucille, which are genuinely some of my favorite names that I still use for characters to this day. I forgot how abusive Slenderman became near the end, was it just me or did that come out of nowhere??
No it really did feel like it came out of nowhere, like he was so caring & stuff in the beginning but im guessing something happened in the timeskip?? because its NEVER elaborated on. Just went from
>oh yay hes taking care of me!
>oh no he mentioned he might kill me??
>abusive gotta run!! trauma!!
but like wtf happened for real?? i genuinely cant remember why Lazari (& others) think that way. its been a few years since I "read" (watched) the comic but i dont remember anything like that happening. unless you count the Masky-getting-slapped thing, which could mean Lazari was treated similarly, but still
From what I remember it really did come out of nowhere, which is the thing that I hated about the comic at the time (I was too dumb to realize all the wrong things in this comic and was a huge Slenderman simp, especially this IEPFB version since he was so nice and I liked the dubs voice) I was absolutely obsessed with it and wanted it to continue, but when it came to Slenderman being abusive part I was like: "Huh? What is this bs? Where did that come from? How? When? Why?"
I didn't and don't know much about the author but it was probably some bias or something like that, who knows? Well I certainly don't know
Seeing the comic title gave me flashbacks to memories I wanted to forget so bad
REAL
The main thing i remember from these comics was there was a parody of hush little baby that lucy sings like once and I WAS OBSESSED WITH IT idk why but i would sing it when ever, EVEN IN SCHOOL. Probably the 6th most embarrassing thing younger me did 😭
I'm glad my creepy pasta experience stayed on the horror side, or making fun of really bad ones instead of the shipping side
Totally agree with you there! Loved the horror aspects of it
I revisited this comic a while ago and somehow back when i first watched the comic dub it never occurred to me how all over the place it is. It's THE definition of a 'and then this happens' style of story telling. Like i guess i thought it was going somewhere but then it literally just ended out of nowhere and nothing was resolved, the dub didn't have that end bit that shifted art styles back when I watched it. You can tell by the very end the artist wasn't putting as much effort into the panels anymore.
It's really upsetting seeing someone work on something for so long and then when they're done with it looking back and thinking 'wow that's just some things that happened'. All of that felt like it was only the beginning of the story but nope that's it! And I'm willing to give it the benefit of the doubt as there's definitely a lot of context lost going from the original deviant posts to the dub so there was probably a lot more material fleshing these characters out. But damn if it isn't one of those cases where you could cut a majority of the characters out and nothing would change. Again it's sad seeing someone spend so much time on a fundamentally kinda nothing burger story.
anyways that was quite a rant, i've got a history with the comic lol so this was cathartic to see.
I completely forgot about this series before I saw this video- I remember reading it when I was around 11 and thinking it was gross with all the sexual stuff (especially relating to children). It’s so interesting to come across video essay’s about things I read or watched as a child and realizing just how messed up they are/were.
Oh, i can fill you in on the slender lore lol "trenderman" was a meme that stemmed from someone taking a picture of a trendy looking mannequin and dubbing it Slenderman's trendy cousin. More people hopped onto the rhyming scheme and made more of them. So they're essentially just meme characters that a few people got really attached to, and worked into their fan works.
The writer for it [Toby] was actually really rude, I know like 3 people who survived them
Anytime someone does something they don't like they swung their fan base at people to force them to "apologize" for something that could've been handled in dms
All in all dislike them personally and I've heard nothing but horror stories about them
Can vouch for this, my old roomate use to line comic pages for tobi and was in tobi's inner circles and she was treated terribly!
Yeah, my friends were minors at the time of getting yelled at while tobi was in her 20's doing this [she knew they were like 17 too]
this is the LAST subject I ever expected to see a video discussion on.
And yep... this was what I expected.
Im actually trying to make a rewrite of this story over on tumblr.
So it was surreal seeing a video talking about it in this day and age.
Where could i find this rewrite
I remember I commented on one of the videos dubbing the comic as a small child defending it and I think about it a lot. I am very embarrassed about it everyday-
So, in essence, this is The Seer, just more sexual and filled to the brim with OCs?
YOU MEAN THIS WASNT A WEIRD DREAM AND IT WAS AN ACTUAL COMIC?? D A W G.
Edit: this and Springtrap and Deliah were both comics I barely remembered and weren’t sure if they were real or not 😭😭
LOL i remember being so weirdly obsessed with this comic when i was like 13 and being on the edge of my seat waiting for parts of the dub to come out 😭 so glad it’s still as confusing as it was like 10 years ago
Oml I just started getting back into Creepypasta recently and I.E.P.F.B.F was a huge part of my childhood creepypasta phase 😭 also I to had a huge crush on Ticci Toby (And may or or may not still do) Anyways I love ur content and this video was very nostalgic for me!
Looking back in the comic, it is definitely... Interesting.
no because even as a kid who couldn't really keep up with lore often in anything, even some of the things in this comic confused me so hard. some of the mc's choices and then the whole dream thing with the demon- ugh i just could barely understand with what's going on. and the consistent art changes would always make me double check to see if I'm still in the correct series
7:21
At some point in the creepy pasta, fandom, people gave slender man brothers. The main brothers that were like ‘canon’ to his lore were splendorman,trenderman,and offenderman. I think this started due to happy pastas and that’s how we got to splendorman
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Okay sone stuff like proxy and stuff are somewhat more slenderverse like marble hornets. Slenderverse is somwhat its own thing,the ranks stuff may not apply to some of creepypasta characters. And also even then proxy was really loosely used in the creepy pasta fandom. It was just more a term used for anyone who works with slender man or lives in the mansion.
I hope this helps a bit,I been in the fandom for a while! I love your videos!!
IM SO GLAD SOMEONE MADE A VIDEO ABOUT THIS
, THIS COMIC HAS GONE UNDER THE RADAR FOR FAR TOO LONG
Surprisingly I never rlly had a big creepypasta phase, but having this comic as my introduction to creepy pasta at the ripe age of 9 was certainly something .. 😭😭
THIS WAS LITERALLY MY FIRST INTERACTION WITH THE FANDOM😭 it’s insane how I didn’t drop the fandom but then again I was a little kid with unrestricted access to the internet and more content got into my recommend and I got into my second fandom ever. Jane is my favorite along with Eyeless Jack being a second.
Oh my god I remember watching this as a kid in a public library on a pair of gaming headphones I got and was horrified when I found that they were the least soundproof headphones in existence and everyone in the library heard me listening to this 😭😭😭
The reason why I think the comic just fell off was due to people demanding more of the comic to be made it causing the artist to just stop and turn the thing upside down.
Also the slender brothers were made way before this comic plus slenders dad was just put in there as a gag not to be taken seriously and Jane isn't dead it was just played off like a joke.
I fondly loved this series cause of the times of old internet and creepypasta.
Also i saw nothing in the whole Lazar and jack thing it was never going anywhere at all to begin with.
As I was still eager to see the comics conclusion which never came.
You and no one asked for this but here I go:
With creepypasta, nothing is canon. Creepypasta is just a bunch of horror stories. What makes well known characters like Slenderman, Masky, Hoodie, Eyeless Jack, Jeff the killer, and other well known feel like their canon to the creepypasta lore is that their stories were popular and spread around for them to be so. Meaning ocs like Eyeless Lulu, Killing Kate, Puppeteer, Ticci Toby, Sally, etc, etc can become popular and become 'canon' to creepypasta. With this alot of these characters as well aren't even known for their canon information(i.e story and official lore) because of the Fandom. Alot of the Fandom have made fanon things that become so well established in creepypasta. One main example is that slenderman adopts people and lives in a mansion in the words, Slenderman has siblings that go with names(I even made one called tenderman), Toby likes waffles, masky loves cheesecake, and official shippings(i.e toby x Clockwork).
Alot of information changes woth these characters too making things change as well(but usually ignore it) like Toby not being in creepypasta cause his creator took him out of it and Sally being aged.
I went off track a bit. i was just trying to give some creepypasta info since I'm been in the fandom since 2013.
With the chibi-work, I will say I never realized how confusing the plot of IEPFB got. And can say she made another comic call withdraw which had a better focus plot.(you can tell I have no idea about her drama and wish there was a video about it to learn more).
(You should also talk about the creepyasta comic adventures with Jeff the killer and friends, it was a fun read younger but thinking back was really werid)
The creator of Ticci Toby is a transphobe, a r@cist and a groomer for your information. That's why many fans still use Toby to reclaim him because of the creator. It's a JKR situation to some fans.
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Wait what?!
@@SammyRobinson62232 Lol my comment was deleted by RUclips because of curse words. But yes, it's true. There are videos on RUclips about it. It's very dissapointing to me as Ticci Toby was my childhood :')
I believe masky liking cheese cake came from people making fat jokes about tims actor in the comments on marble hornets
@Mx_Rabbit yes it did! But to alot of people who joined and didn't know where masky and hoodie originated from only know masks liked cheesecake and didn't know why, so it just became a silly thing to make the creepypasta characters not so scary and well silly.
I used to be obsessed with the I eat pasta for breakfast dub as a teenager lol
It introduced me to a bunch of creepy pasta characters I hadn’t heard of before( Ticky Toby, eyeless Jack, Ben Drowned, Lulu, Masky, Hoody etc)
The only experience in had with this series was oddly specific: i was never a creepypasta fan as a kid but ended up listening to a comic dub of it because i was playing wii party (Marching orders specifically) and it came on on autoplay. I was too focused on the game to pause it and find music and therefore wasn't really paying attention.
Just thought it was a funny story, im glad that it wasn't my proper introduction to creepypasta as a whole but it was my first experience with it even if i wasn't listening
I just saw the title and though who dosent eat pasta for breakfast its like saying i eat cereal for breakfast everyone dose
Bro it’s so rare to find someone that actually still talks about this and your one of my fave RUclipsrs so I was so excited to see you post this‼️🗣️🗣️🔥🔥🐺🐺🙏🙏✊✊(I also like Toby too‼️☝️🤓)
learning that half the cast were ocs makes me feel better as to why younger me could not ever understand the lore; inner child Heald through vindication
OMG SOMEONE FINALLY TALKS ABOUT THIS MASTERPIECE OF A COMIC DUB/j
Man..missed these old days and no matter how many people hate it...i will love it to death.
in my older age i can appreciate the humanization of monsters (they gotta eat too and if their main food source is humans, then human it is) but this comic was just never it. it's way too anime inspired for my taste, and by that i mean it has too much questionable fan service. otherwise monsters living together like it's a sitcom is just a really funny premise.
I think what would've been a better plot, would be slender found lazari keeping her close after finding out she was a demon, and formally training her to be a weapon against zalgo, or if he used her to an advantage such as if knowing zalgo would want her or wouldent. Knowing how zalgo is actually portray id say he wouldent care if she died much considering he could make another. He is the embodiments of evil in a way so i dont think hed care to much, unless he was short on demons. Slender would train lazari and would take advantage of her strength.
With her being his he may have fought to get her back. Only i could see it more as he would only want her back to take away slenders advantage. Stripes being her sister possibly would have hidden her away to stay with sadiya, mostly to keep her alive. Ending with them both realizing they dont have her. both Zalgo and Slender sending out demon and proxies to find her. If zalgo would care to keep her around he could maybe even find her, maybe even act sweet, manipulate her to find Slender and the others bad. Telling her they were only useing her. Lazari gets a bit upset and is skeptical and hesitant. Considering slender would have taught lazari about zalgo, lazari seeing zalgo with kindness would have made her trust him despite her better judgment, and with him pointing out they were useing her only makes it better for her to be on his side. Lazari not knowing who to trust would ran away (stupied ik) but gets found by Ej,(im against them being togather its just to weird so put them as friends) he tells her theyve been worried and brings her back, to an ansty slender. Lazari is still nervous with them as she still hangs onto zalgos words. Slender puts on an act to try and soothen her. However despite this she thought slender would be mad considering she ran away, flashbacks of her life with her mother comeing back and she feels anxious. I want to say that lazarus is also driven by fear and instinct and not only hunger, so he would drive her. She would then turn into a demon and would attack them unable to control it. Considering slender is way to focused on getting her down, Zalgo track her knowing she with them. Lazari almost kills slender, now seeing him as a threat. But shes still a kid and dosnt want to kill, she gets off and backs away and runs off outside but then is met with zalgo and a few other demons lazari runs right to his arms as shes now scared and dosnt know what to do..Zalgo let her lead him right to slender.
I don't know why zalgo wouldent attack slender already considering his lead all other demons, and it's not like he couldent leave the underrealm so what if he just didn't know where they are, or slender has a force that keeps them hidden, hence why zalgo never got to close. Sadiya and ell realizing that's she gone gose to find him, and with zalgo bringing down there force, can now find them.
Although these are just ideas, it could end with lazari being killed by zalgo considering she is a weapon slender can use, or it could end with lazari destroying the mansion and Zalgo takeing control of mid realm/or earth realm. Because the mansion is destroyed everyone was left on there own..Now haveing to come back togather and stop zalgo. With the part of the story I wouldent know how it would end, but I hope you enjoyed this, sorry it's so long
I LOVE YOU. I HAVE BEEN LOOKING FOR THIS FOR YEARS AND YEARS ON END. THANK YOU.
I HAVENT EVEN STARTED THE VIDEO BUT IM SO EXCITED!!! I use to keep up with this comic (like kinda in the beginning of it) as a kid and I've never seen someone talk about it before!
whyd 4th grade me eat this comic up💀 so far i'd redraw the scenes lmao
Me fr omg
I found this series on RUclips when I was still in elementary school, and I clicked on it having no idea what creepypasta even was. I spent all afternoon binging every dub I could find of it, and I remember thinking that the plot made no sense and just being really uncomfortable that they made her older just to make her more sexual. I fully blame that day for being the start of the chain reaction that led me to writing angst fanfiction
i was listening to this in the background and i did NOT expect to tab back in to see u drawing tide and mark evidently i am not over jrwi:pd the way my heartrate shot up
fantastic video btw nostalgia definitely colored this waaaay differently than it really was
oh god i forgot about this, when i was younger i didnt even process what happened in the story lol i just liked horror
SAMEE😭😭
HORRIBLE i thought id never see this title mentioned again ever 😭 not even my most internet niche-y friends have heard of this series. Vividly remember backing up into a corner and plugging old headphones into my ipad to watch every comic dub to hear the profanity without my parents questioning it. never once occurred to me to follow the plot but this was bizarre to actually hear a cohesive plot line. lord 😭
I remember being obsessed with this when I was 9/10. I would literally sit and draw creepypasta ocs 😂
i was just watching this video essay while doing my makeup and i looked at the art like “wow that kind of looks like tidalwave” and then you started colouring and i was like WAIT??? 😭 jrwi fan in the wild this is so peak
Sp00ky: 0:17
also Sp00ky: 16:15
This was my only exposure to Creepy Pasta stories and my 10 year old self ate this up so hard. I couldn’t find the original creepy pasta stories anywhere so this is what I thought it was, and people came up with backstories. I… I was not a smart child.
Zalgo sleeping around just makes me think that this version of Zalgo is just Dark Zeus XD
i loved this and i love your persona/character design
THIS GAVE ME FLASHBACKS OHHH MY GOD THIS WAS MY FAVORITE THING EVER WHEN I WAS LIKE 10 😭 😭
This comic was so wild, I though id understand when I got older and still dont
You say slender is abusive like it’s a surprise. This IS slenderman we’re talking about. He doesn’t actually give a flying fuck about his proxy’s, and quite literally only uses them for his own benefit. Him being abusive didn’t really come as a shock to me
Yes, but he was portrayed as some neutral being with a bit of a heart at the beginning. The random tonal shift was the real problem.
@@ClowncoreisCool I guess that’s fair. The situation probably put a bit of stress on him, but the attitude change was pretty jarring
This honestly sound like a hate comment- like bro why tf u sound so presseddddd?? go listen to Taylor Swifts 'You need to calm down' or smth🙏
Holy cow, this brought back memories!
The dub was my introduction to the creepy pasta fandom and I got really fixated on it. I wanted to be Lazari so bad lol “:l
5:08 So many jokes/topics went over my head, I remember repeating this out loud and my family was horrified XD
I was into this comic in the past... Who was going to explain to me that this shit WASN'T just a cute found family story? (To be fair, I barely paid attention and only saw some silly creepypasta characters being a little family with some angst sprinkled in...)
Bit of praise before getting into my opinions: Great video, it was really well made and I can tell that you, even when not knowing how exactly everything functions within Creepypasta still tried to make it as concise and understandable as possible for viewers! And if you ever wanna cover more of Creepypasta, I'd recommend checking out things on the Video horror side of things such as Tribe Twelve, Dark Harvest, or EveryManHybrid along with Marble Hornets of course. I'm pretty sure the former 3 happen in the same setting whilst Marble Hornets is a show in their world, also, don't stress on the whole proxy thing, it's definition has always been weird in and of itself, you've already had Marble Hornets corrected so I won't bring that up but surely looking forward to more content from you.
I consider myself lucky that I wasn't only in CreepyPasta because of this comic. EJ has also been one of my Favourite Creepypasta's since I first heard of him and how he was done in this story even bugged me back then. I saw his opinion on Lazari 100% justified because of what she had done to him, I also never really had an attachment to Lazari in this story, I enjoyed seeing every other (actually written) creepypasta's "storyline's" more than her's (aside from Lulu's, I just do not like that Pasta or her character)
Years ago, when I first read this story, I somehow had the understanding to grasp how illogical the entire things was. I'd see character's who clearly weren't Pasta's, the random art style shifts, I straight up didn't like how randomly the character's intentions and motivations changed along with their portrayal. Nearing the end of the comic I just thought of the series as the comic embodiment of a run on sentence. It was just the author adding more whilst not truly displaying the world they came from and the hand waving of character arcs and information on said characters. After a while I just realized your brain had to be off to enjoy it. I DO wanna state that Lazari's age jump was so frickin sudden to me that upon my first time seeing that form of hers I thought that I had missed a couple chapters or that a timeskip might've happened. But no, just her being able to change her appearance. The random bouts of violence from character's always annoyed me because what'd they get mad over? Oh and Femboy Twink Vampire Zalgo needs to be erased from history because I hated that basic ass design even bac then because we had seen hi as a better looking demonic monstrosity. By the end of the comic, I kinda just thought of Lazari as more of a Mary Sue than an actual character because of how non-sensical everything was. --------END RANT
I WAS WAITING FOR SOMEONE TO TALK ABOUT THIS! I USED TO BE OBSESSED WITH THAT COMIC OH MY GODDD
Wow, a video about my favourite creepypasta comic. This is crazy, I’ve been such a long fan of it, I don’t think I had watched the comic dub before (maybe I have but I can’t remember) but I did read the entire comic! This comic was my childhood and I’m pretty sure it’s the very thing that introduced me to creepypasta but I’m not too sure.. either way, one of my most favourites and one of my first ever creepypasta experience!!!
Anyway I’m a bit obsessed with this comic and its characters and lore, I love everything about it (other than the sort of weird relationship between Lazari & Jack had, the mischaracterization of some or most of the characters (especially Masky from what I saw the comments say) as well as the plotholes I guess). I quite literally adore this comic solely because the characters are affiliated or somewhat affiliated with Zalgo! Who is possibly my most favourite creepypasta character and god do I love how the comic treat Zalgo, it’s so humiliating to the actual creepypasta honestly
as weird as this comic is i kinda owe a lot to it. i made a webcomic that was heavily inspired by iepfb when i was younger, and while that comic will remain unfinished the ocs are very dear to me and haven been remade over and over
Masky and hoodie aren't supposed to be proxies, or at least in marble hornets they 100% are not. They actually are against the operator (slender man). The Fandom really made them proxies based on misunderstanding their source material
I remember watching/reading that comic. Now looking back on it I do feel nostalgic but I get very confused on the lore/storyline of the comic.
I also really like your voice, it's very nice to listen to. I also like your art style. I hope you have a nice day ☺️