if you were to do paid tactical insertion courses i would totally be interested in that kind of stuff, even if i could just play as OP4 with sim rounds (i love being op4), just sayn.
Surviving as a family requires teamwork. I would rather my man buy the stuff we need to have a better survival rate. I buy the stuff I think will be needed, he should do the same, but you need to communicate with each other.
Army Infantryman: Patrol in Iraq: AVG Weight ~~ +400lbs. easily totaled over 400lbs including myown body weight, which is counted in your loadout bc you are still weight that you HAVE to carry. BODY (180lbs) - cuz gotta bring yourself + uniform (boots, sox, pants+blouse, undershirt) + load baring fighting kit 4x IFAK medical 4xSoftT. WEAPON - 249 + extra barrel + laser. ARMOR - front + rear + side + soft + helmet. AMMO - min 1000rds 556 (spare) 100 on wpn sys (500on kit / 500 in bag). batteries - nvgs + mounts + other mission ess gear + weapons maintenance gear (rag, boresnake, barbers brush, toothbrush, multitool, windex bottle of oil to douse weapon ez). food(3-6 gutted MRE) + water(9L) + extra socks(3pr) + extra under shirt(3) + extra underwear(3) + (550+100mph tape) + baby wipes. Rucksack/Assaultpack. and this is very basic loadout for a week patrol, water goes suuuuuuper fast sometimes would take 5x 3L camelbacks depending on length, beans and bullets and batteries account for most of the weight and are the main necessity of your kit. and this is almost ZERO "survival or sustainment" pure combat patrol, so if you looking to add bug out survival to the kit your easily gunna add another +100lbs to the kit. DISCLAIMER: im sure im missing a few items, but this is just a rough idea as to what the AVG Infantryman brings on a combat patrol. Oz = LBS and LBS = PAIN get fit or die -Jack Richland
Sold my motorcycle for night vision, liked it soo much, realized it was valuable beyond money, I had to get a thermal scope…n vision halo $7k soo my turbo car had to go too! So it’s all about priorities I guess
@@jonnydroo I don't know personally but probably just search "electronics at risk from emp" or similar. I believe they say the starter motor in your car can be damaged by an emp (and then replaced) and people often say to put ham radios and so on in a faraday cage.
@@Nathan-jh1ho, True but if you are facing adversaries and that is all you have it’s better than nothing. If people can afford $15000.00 for top line and they are amazing you get what you can afford.
@@martinidemon. I have a inexpensive thermal monocular (atn ots) that i use for spotting live targets at distance.. it does the job. but for active movement and shooting or banging steel... i went with a night vision clip on.. you can clip it onto any day scope and see your rectile through nv. But.. thats not the way to go...If i had deep pockets... i would probally have gone with a high quality thermal scope like the RS75.. then run my NV PVS-15 nods on my ballistic helmet..paired with a PEQ15... and it would go on my 308 ar10.
@@FerventReminder yes. It’s very doable. Many people fly pigeons for weddings, etc, and have them return home. So as long as the bird is returning home, it’s doable.
I have a single pvs-14, L-3 thin film WP tube with autogate and manual gain. and a Flir PTS- 233 on my rifle. The pvs-14 is perfect for General observation or navigation, but that Thermo will let you spot the guys in the ghillie suits and camouflage.
I'm really thinking about getting a hand held thermal spotter to use with my WP PVS14. In a perfect world, you have both. It took me so long just to get the PVS14, helmet, mount; now comms, and thermal are next. It's an endless pit.
That must be an amazing convoy to need a damn Devgru team to protect it. What's in it, plasma rifles and mechs? Lol. Idk, I think if you have guys with ghillie suits tossing 40mm grenades at you, you've made some mistakes. I don't think we're going the Walking Dead route, IRL, but who knows.
@manictiger It's my castle and it houses my family. It's about preparedness and having fun with it. If you want someone else to have the upper hand on you at night, then don't invest. Night hunting too. I think this channel about preparedness.....no? I'm not sure you prepare at all with comments like that. More power to you if you don't understand why having a combat multiplier as an advantage in preps, but no reason to poo people that do. Not to mention, there are a lot of scenarios in between a BS walking dead scenario and a natural disaster. Not sure why people automatically go to zombie thoughts. Most realistic people refer to the zombies as the "golden horde". The city dwellers then didn't prepare and run out of food in 3-5 days. FEMA's got you.......LOL.
@@Kaltwasser45 It is your house, but you're a complete bozo if you think you're going to be spotting people sneaking up on your house with a FLIR, that you couldn't have seen with a Gen 3 PVS-14. I just don't see your scenario. It makes no sense. Personally, I don't even think NVGs are that useful for defense, since whomever has the beat on you is just going to blast your whole property with their high-beams and encircle you, likely chucking "spicy soda cans" at you the entire time. What I think it's mainly useful for, is recon, ambushes, raids and situational stuff. If you're dealing with ghillie suits during an ambush or raid, you must be hitting some fancy alien technology or something. Do you even have any doctrines, or do you just buy stuff as a replacement for thinking?
@manictiger you're right, I don't think I'll be guarding any convoys anytime soon, and the ghillie suit and camouflage comment was just an example of how hard it is to hide from thermal day or night or through smoke or fog. I have my FLIR PTS-233 thermal mounted on my SAR-3 and my PVS-14 mounted on my bump helmet. I got a few feral hogs down in Southeast Missouri at 2 a.m. with that setup. I live pretty close to Flint Michigan, and a lot of people there are already desperate, let alone in an extended power outage, and I can pretty much guarantee they will be coming this way. They will be the golden horde. Although this equipment is at the very last page of everything else you should have in preparedness and it took me a long time to be able to buy that gear, it will be a force multiplier for my wife and I until we can egress out of here we may need all the help we can get.
I thought finding a new job would only take a few weeks, here we are 7 months later and I've only had 1 interview and hundreds of denials. Some people cannot afford stuff, opportunity isn't available everywhere and it takes money to make money in any instance and EVERYTHING is super crowded. Not saying it's impossible, but it takes way way way more to work your way up from the bottom than most middle class and above have any idea about.
the problem with "Night Vision" that the "night vision" on the civilian markets are not truly night vision. And the night vision is not affordable to most or many on the civilian market
My PVS14 gen3 WP is truly NV it was pricey but I saved and now the unit is worth more than I paid for it. In 2 months of saving I will have the FLIR Breach to go with it. Save up man you can do it to.
Dude the night vision devices on the civilian market today will blow away anything that the military had a few years ago. You can purchase pretty much anything night vision related right now that is used in the military including quads.
@@willyreimer8042Steele Industries, Licentia arms, TNVC, ultimate night vision, night vision inc, kosher surplus, off the top of my head. You can get the best of what is currently being made from any of those places, best being L3 unfilmed white phosphor PVS-31a’s or DTNVS with 40+ SNR. Or GPNVG-18s if you have deep enough pockets.
Finally joined. Been following you for awhile. I’m trying to protect my family and appreciate all the great information you provide in your videos Jack. Thank you.
I’m running a 14 on the helmet and I flir breach breach around my neck on a lanyard. It works for coyotes pretty well. If I had to choose only one I would take the thermal almost every time
I love my pvs14 I have the agm stingIR for helmet mounted thermal get your hands on a bridge and rum em together I got lucky my brain works to collimste them together
With thermal, it cannot see thru glass and it will pick up reflected heat on shiny surfaces, something to be aware of, and nature (dense vegetation) can also obscure thermal.
Great content! Love my Iray RICO RH25...Have hundreds of hours using bino NVGs for work (HEMS pilot) but like the detection element of the thermal and not having to have ambient light to use it. Plan on a helmet mount coming up. Both definitely have their place in night ops but was draw to thermal for detection for either people or critters for hunting.
I just got into the thermal with the Hikmicro Raptor as my first thermal night vision optic. It works very well. I am pleased. Although in Canada we are limited to what we can have. It’s getting better but it’s expensive as hell! But worth it!
Northern Ontario here... was looking at the hik... ended getting up an AGM. Did you get night vision yet? I'm looking at a photonis echo... options are soooo limited/expensive here
@@Northernprepper01 no I’ve not looked at any NV yet. I have really good head gear with my comms hook ups. I’ve decided to start getting into tho for the things I like to do. How much did your kit cost? The Hikmicro all taxes in was 6500$
I wouldn't say they are amazing, but they exist and they are better than nothing I suppose. LAMs are generally only a good idea if you know that your opponent doesn't have NV capabilities. The Ukrainian conflict has really hammered that point home. They are all almost exclusively using passive aiming, but I do think you should still have a LAM.
Even in those provinces though you can get a bulletproof vest if you have your possession and acquisition license. Canadian firearms license for those who are unfamiliar.
Hey guys . Great topic !. A bit of kit I need to get . I bought the DOOGEE S61 night vision phone which is amazing for the price , amazing quality. I do want to get night vision goggles, thermal imaging would be amazing too .
I enjoyed this, I mainly run thermal optics on my rifles, on hogs and coyotes. I was drawn to thermal because that movie the predator. in the future I'd get flir monocular. I'm open minded to run nightvison
Thermal with ir mono so both, thermal mounted to the stick mono handheld to make sure anyone using one or another way to hide from both can’t hide from both at same time
Just checked out the FLIR breach. I like it and in 2 months of saving will have it and it will go with the gen 3 PVS14 WP I have now. Great video and informative. Like you said Jack if you want it bad enough you will get it.
This is one of the best informative shows you've done Jack now somehow I just got to save money up for night vision satyr shit hits the fan there's always Battlefield pickups
night vision for shooting (on your rifle). therm requires too much battery for continuous use, so a therm spotting scope you can sporadically utilize, when your objective is ir/vis light discipline. not something you would 'patrol' with, imo. but a game changing piece of kit for when it's your turn to be the seeker in hide and seek
So the Thermal is for finding targets and the Night Vision is for engaging targets? I'm way behind. I only have Iron sights on all my stuff. I'm getting ready to get Red/Green Dot sights with magnifiers. I'm a ways off from night vision. What do I start with? Night Vision or Thermal? I've only used night vision in the Army and that was the Old Starlight Scope on an M2 back in the 90s and some broken down night vision on perimeter guard duty in Iraq 2005. The broken down night vision almost got us killed because we could not see the guy planting a bomb nect to our perimeter wall. It blew up with the insurgent and we were rather embarrased we could not see the guy before he blew himself up. All our NVG units had a black dot in the middle and we had to use the area around the black dot to see anything. Not ideal.
Get a red dot first, imo. I recommend a Holosun 510c (or the green one if you prefer, but I go with red, because everything is green about 3/4ths of the year, here). You can modify it to protect the emitter without blocking the glass. I took a piece of plastic packaging and just gorilla taped it to the 510c. So, it looks like a 512c, but there's no second piece of glass. This means that light-permeation is better. With the 3x magnifier on the NV, I can't see through the aimpoint all that well, but I can see through the 510c (dot only). So, imo, 510c, first. Irons are terrible to use at night. You can get away with a lot with just natural night vision.
I think a big issue is how does the average person carry all that (or afford it)? I can't imagine the typical housewife lugging a pack that weighs 120 lbs.
Thermal doesn't work threw water. If your hiding under 4 inches of water. No one will see you. Yet. Sound travels threw water very easily. Say you want a bunker. Their underground anyway. Okay. Then, put a pound over the top of it. Then make a water fall. Build your air system into it to hide the heat. I have IR. I want thermal. My property is in a forest. Mainly to for the human kinds. For wildlife. Bobcat, black bear, mountain lions, wild pig, raccoons, etc.
I've been coyote hunting for a few years now and there's so many options on the market between the 2 night vision and thermal last year I got my first thermal scanner I bought the atn odin 320 and I've used pvs 14s that one of my buddies had and honestly I get the idea of night vision being nice to navigate but with my atn odin I can navigate just as easily as the pvs 14s that might be just me but it's really hard to beat a thermal I have an atn 4kpro and a sightmark wraith for one of my buddies to use and what I can see with the thermal scanner vs the NV scopes is impressive nothing in the woods can hide and one thing worth mentioning is the atn odin 320 is only $1200 so for anyone looking for a good budget thermal you should check it out the image looks better then the flir that he was using
@Jaques Rabit It is a Joe Pickett, Game Warden crime series. His friend Nate, the falconer, is former Special Forces agent hiding out in Wyoming where the story is set. Leans toward falconry skills, the birds and landscape. I give it 5 stars. Val
Auto gating is not the same as auto gain/manual gain. Auto gating is a fail safe whereas auto gain and manual gain change the level of brightness. The auto gating feature is in almost every tube now these days. However, not all tubes have auto gain. Manual gain can be very useful in a pvs14 where one eye is unaided to reserve natural night vision in that eye.
He cracked me up when he said he bought night vision and was afraid he’d break it 😂 was nervous about the samething because back in the day when he’s talking about it was a huge thing “civilian night vision” led a lot of people to believe it wasn’t as stout or as robust as military kit 😂 good interview you caught me off guard with that COTI set up being tracked with it makes it very hard to evade certain groups tracking you
I'm a recent widow with no family or help. My only income is Social Security. Does anyone have any suggestions for what I can do to be prepared? I'm pretty good at DIY and making do with less.
If you're running a can, PWS mod 1 upper and done. My Mod2 stays way cleaner than my DI guns when running suppressed. This example kind of just speeds up what long term use does without cleaning. The PWS bleed off system is kind of hard to beat for the price. It will cost you a few hundo more, but you get to keep your DI gun in it's configuration.
I'd like to remind people that PVS 7s are a good choice also. You cannot see anything more with a PVS 14. It is the same technology. Would I rather have dual 14s? Sure. But I really cannot justify spending $7,000 on night vision when I can get 7s for $2,000. I used both in the Army and looking though a single 14 for more than a hour or two will make you hate life and give you a headache Fentanyl can't kill. Just sayin. As far as night vision VS thermal. I can do a lot more with night vision. Checking the perimeter looking for body heat and sniping thermal rules no doubt about it. And I would not want to go up against thermal with night vision. But I can move quietly all night long with night vision I can hunt with night vision ( hint illuminators make animals eyes shine like crazy) in a CQB situation give me night vision every time.
I have a weird question for anyone, I only have a monocular so that’s all my experience and point of reference, but could you run dual tubes (2 monoculars I’m thinking) have one focused close and one focused far, and have the image blended in your head and have both distances in focus?
This is the 2nd time watching this, I watched probably when it was new and now watching it again. I have talked to other “experts” but I’m still lost and not sure I agree. I have a single pvs14 only head mounted, my main focus are shooting with the night vision. I am considering thermal, everyone I have talked to talks about a dual set up, and something like a rh25 I believe it’s called or a cheaper version of that kinda set up without recording capabilities. I with the single keep thinking a Jerry CE5 or an eCoti, so I can get the outline overlay. From I do want evasion and detection capabilities but only as a 2nd priority. I keep thinking enhancing the mono night vision tube I have but I am being told to ad a stand alone thermal. Thoughts?
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if you were to do paid tactical insertion courses i would totally be interested in that kind of stuff, even if i could just play as OP4 with sim rounds (i love being op4), just sayn.
@@zr6671 I’m working on planning a skydive insertion hunting trip in Idaho… could be great training.
Surviving as a family requires teamwork. I would rather my man buy the stuff we need to have a better survival rate. I buy the stuff I think will be needed, he should do the same, but you need to communicate with each other.
Having both is the best way to go!!! Having the best tools for the job is always an advantage!!!
Army Infantryman:
Patrol in Iraq:
AVG Weight ~~ +400lbs. easily totaled over 400lbs including myown body weight, which is counted in your loadout bc you are still weight that you HAVE to carry.
BODY (180lbs) - cuz gotta bring yourself + uniform (boots, sox, pants+blouse, undershirt) + load baring fighting kit 4x IFAK medical 4xSoftT.
WEAPON - 249 + extra barrel + laser.
ARMOR - front + rear + side + soft + helmet.
AMMO - min 1000rds 556 (spare) 100 on wpn sys (500on kit / 500 in bag).
batteries - nvgs + mounts + other mission ess gear + weapons maintenance gear (rag, boresnake, barbers brush, toothbrush, multitool, windex bottle of oil to douse weapon ez).
food(3-6 gutted MRE) + water(9L) + extra socks(3pr) + extra under shirt(3) + extra underwear(3) + (550+100mph tape) + baby wipes.
Rucksack/Assaultpack.
and this is very basic loadout for a week patrol, water goes suuuuuuper fast sometimes would take 5x 3L camelbacks depending on length, beans and bullets and batteries account for most of the weight and are the main necessity of your kit. and this is almost ZERO "survival or sustainment" pure combat patrol, so if you looking to add bug out survival to the kit your easily gunna add another +100lbs to the kit.
DISCLAIMER: im sure im missing a few items, but this is just a rough idea as to what the AVG Infantryman brings on a combat patrol.
Oz = LBS and LBS = PAIN
get fit or die
-Jack Richland
Sold my motorcycle for night vision, liked it soo much, realized it was valuable beyond money, I had to get a thermal scope…n vision halo $7k soo my turbo car had to go too! So it’s all about priorities I guess
It was good to hear you talk about protecting your electronics with EMP/CME bags. The thermal seemed to really make possible threats easy to see.
any recommendations on emp bags to store nods, sights etc? Anything else need to be stored?
@@jonnydroo , I was going to check out the one he uses.
@@jonnydroo I don't know personally but probably just search "electronics at risk from emp" or similar.
I believe they say the starter motor in your car can be damaged by an emp (and then replaced) and people often say to put ham radios and so on in a faraday cage.
Thermal is great for detection but terrible at identification
@@Nathan-jh1ho, True but if you are facing adversaries and that is all you have it’s better than nothing. If people can afford $15000.00 for top line and they are amazing you get what you can afford.
I got nods, can’t afford thermal at this time. So I will work with what I have. Stay frosty and watch your back. Keep your kit ready!
Way outta my range on a single income- she’s not exactly on board with a lot of things so still workn and tryin. Thanks fellas
Great video thanks for having Dave on for great information
I just to want to use three words to state my opinion…..THERMAL. THERMAL. THERMAL.
@@PBerBlueCobra nope but if shit hit the fan I’d rather go with a thermal…. Just my two cents worth
@@martinidemon. I have a inexpensive thermal monocular (atn ots) that i use for spotting live targets at distance.. it does the job. but for active movement and shooting or banging steel... i went with a night vision clip on.. you can clip it onto any day scope and see your rectile through nv. But.. thats not the way to go...If i had deep pockets... i would probally have gone with a high quality thermal scope like the RS75.. then run my NV PVS-15 nods on my ballistic helmet..paired with a PEQ15... and it would go on my 308 ar10.
@@ExcitedSolarSystem-jr2rn figure put passive aiming enough people have nvg now that your lasers and lights will be your downfall at some point
Thanks Jack very informative video May God bless you and your guest Stay FSD
Thanks Jack! Had a great time on your show!
Thanks brother. Enjoyed it
Could you train carrier pigeons to do old school comms in grid down situation? Mostly just curious how involved the discipline is.
@@FerventReminder yes. It’s very doable. Many people fly pigeons for weddings, etc, and have them return home. So as long as the bird is returning home, it’s doable.
I have a single pvs-14, L-3 thin film WP tube with autogate and manual gain. and a Flir PTS- 233 on my rifle. The pvs-14 is perfect for General observation or navigation, but that Thermo will let you spot the guys in the ghillie suits and camouflage.
I'm really thinking about getting a hand held thermal spotter to use with my WP PVS14. In a perfect world, you have both. It took me so long just to get the PVS14, helmet, mount; now comms, and thermal are next. It's an endless pit.
That must be an amazing convoy to need a damn Devgru team to protect it. What's in it, plasma rifles and mechs? Lol.
Idk, I think if you have guys with ghillie suits tossing 40mm grenades at you, you've made some mistakes. I don't think we're going the Walking Dead route, IRL, but who knows.
@manictiger It's my castle and it houses my family. It's about preparedness and having fun with it.
If you want someone else to have the upper hand on you at night, then don't invest. Night hunting too.
I think this channel about preparedness.....no? I'm not sure you prepare at all with comments like that. More power to you if you don't understand why having a combat multiplier as an advantage in preps, but no reason to poo people that do.
Not to mention, there are a lot of scenarios in between a BS walking dead scenario and a natural disaster. Not sure why people automatically go to zombie thoughts. Most realistic people refer to the zombies as the "golden horde". The city dwellers then didn't prepare and run out of food in 3-5 days.
FEMA's got you.......LOL.
@@Kaltwasser45
It is your house, but you're a complete bozo if you think you're going to be spotting people sneaking up on your house with a FLIR, that you couldn't have seen with a Gen 3 PVS-14.
I just don't see your scenario. It makes no sense.
Personally, I don't even think NVGs are that useful for defense, since whomever has the beat on you is just going to blast your whole property with their high-beams and encircle you, likely chucking "spicy soda cans" at you the entire time.
What I think it's mainly useful for, is recon, ambushes, raids and situational stuff. If you're dealing with ghillie suits during an ambush or raid, you must be hitting some fancy alien technology or something.
Do you even have any doctrines, or do you just buy stuff as a replacement for thinking?
@manictiger you're right, I don't think I'll be guarding any convoys anytime soon, and the ghillie suit and camouflage comment was just an example of how hard it is to hide from thermal day or night or through smoke or fog. I have my FLIR PTS-233 thermal mounted on my SAR-3 and my PVS-14 mounted on my bump helmet. I got a few feral hogs down in Southeast Missouri at 2 a.m. with that setup. I live pretty close to Flint Michigan, and a lot of people there are already desperate, let alone in an extended power outage, and I can pretty much guarantee they will be coming this way. They will be the golden horde. Although this equipment is at the very last page of everything else you should have in preparedness and it took me a long time to be able to buy that gear, it will be a force multiplier for my wife and I until we can egress out of here we may need all the help we can get.
New a little about night vision but also learned some new stuff good show!!
Thanks Jack. Thanks Dave.
In the real world option c is the clear best choice: white light
I always wanted to work with Birds of pray!! Hawks are my favorite!! Falconry was my dream. ❤😉
I thought finding a new job would only take a few weeks, here we are 7 months later and I've only had 1 interview and hundreds of denials. Some people cannot afford stuff, opportunity isn't available everywhere and it takes money to make money in any instance and EVERYTHING is super crowded. Not saying it's impossible, but it takes way way way more to work your way up from the bottom than most middle class and above have any idea about.
Sir, 79 years ago, we lost a lot of good patriots when we landed on Normandy Beach, but then they proceeded to kick ass. "Never Forget."
the problem with "Night Vision" that the "night vision" on the civilian markets are not truly night vision. And the night vision is not affordable to most or many on the civilian market
My PVS14 gen3 WP is truly NV it was pricey but I saved and now the unit is worth more than I paid for it. In 2 months of saving I will have the FLIR Breach to go with it. Save up man you can do it to.
Dude the night vision devices on the civilian market today will blow away anything that the military had a few years ago. You can purchase pretty much anything night vision related right now that is used in the military including quads.
@@thejohnhend you know of legit websites a guy can get this stuff?
@@willyreimer8042Steele Industries, Licentia arms, TNVC, ultimate night vision, night vision inc, kosher surplus, off the top of my head.
You can get the best of what is currently being made from any of those places, best being L3 unfilmed white phosphor PVS-31a’s or DTNVS with 40+ SNR. Or GPNVG-18s if you have deep enough pockets.
Finally joined.
Been following you for awhile.
I’m trying to protect my family and appreciate all the great information you provide in your videos Jack. Thank you.
Great, real world information, and much appreciated 👍
Such an easy question to answer, both, of course
Just excellent. Ya never fail to bring it, Jack
Thanks Jack.
Thanks again for putting out actual length videos. It’s hard to find things more than 3 minutes with all the info.
I’m running a 14 on the helmet and I flir breach breach around my neck on a lanyard. It works for coyotes pretty well. If I had to choose only one I would take the thermal almost every time
I love my pvs14 I have the agm stingIR for helmet mounted thermal get your hands on a bridge and rum em together I got lucky my brain works to collimste them together
amazon has a payment over time so if you can pay $100 a month you can get a NVD or theral i got the ATN THOR AN THE AGM rattler
I definitely like the thermal add-on. I plan to buy one once I have my house finished
Amazing information boys. Thank you so much for sharing your personal experiences with us. 👍🏻
You should do the scenario based videos like you were talking about before being shadow banned
With thermal, it cannot see thru glass and it will pick up reflected heat on shiny surfaces, something to be aware of, and nature (dense vegetation) can also obscure thermal.
Love NV and thermal content. Thanks
Great content! Love my Iray RICO RH25...Have hundreds of hours using bino NVGs for work (HEMS pilot) but like the detection element of the thermal and not having to have ambient light to use it. Plan on a helmet mount coming up. Both definitely have their place in night ops but was draw to thermal for detection for either people or critters for hunting.
Excellent video. Very informative.
I just got into the thermal with the Hikmicro Raptor as my first thermal night vision optic. It works very well. I am pleased. Although in Canada we are limited to what we can have. It’s getting better but it’s expensive as hell! But worth it!
Northern Ontario here... was looking at the hik... ended getting up an AGM. Did you get night vision yet? I'm looking at a photonis echo... options are soooo limited/expensive here
@@Northernprepper01 no I’ve not looked at any NV yet. I have really good head gear with my comms hook ups. I’ve decided to start getting into tho for the things I like to do. How much did your kit cost? The Hikmicro all taxes in was 6500$
Somogear sells some amazing civilian peq15s and ngals
I wouldn't say they are amazing, but they exist and they are better than nothing I suppose. LAMs are generally only a good idea if you know that your opponent doesn't have NV capabilities. The Ukrainian conflict has really hammered that point home. They are all almost exclusively using passive aiming, but I do think you should still have a LAM.
Great show!!? Excellent guest!!!
I doubt I could legally get night vision in Canada, and you brought that up
You guys are lucky. In some Canadian regions a bullet proof vest is illegal to own. We have no way to even legally protect ourselves
Stay safe out there
Even in those provinces though you can get a bulletproof vest if you have your possession and acquisition license. Canadian firearms license for those who are unfamiliar.
Buy weighted crossfit vest lol
Jack, you always look like you've been up for about 5 days straight! LOL I really enjoy your show!
Two babies will do it brother. Lol
🙋♂️👍Thanks Jack..
Great video and very informative!
Thank you for the knowledge
Extra comment for the Algo rythem. Great video 👍👍
Hey guys . Great topic !. A bit of kit I need to get . I bought the DOOGEE S61 night vision phone which is amazing for the price , amazing quality. I do want to get night vision goggles, thermal imaging would be amazing too .
I enjoyed this, I mainly run thermal optics on my rifles, on hogs and coyotes. I was drawn to thermal because that movie the predator. in the future I'd get flir monocular. I'm open minded to run nightvison
BOTH! Thanks for content guys!
Thermal with ir mono so both, thermal mounted to the stick mono handheld to make sure anyone using one or another way to hide from both can’t hide from both at same time
Excellent. Very useful information.
Save for thermal including home defense cameras for EDGE ADV
Sweet setup y’all and really love that outline look. Feeling like Superman and owning the dark.😁👍🏼🍻💯
in a way they are uncompilable technologies...
Great info as always - TY Guys
Great chat, thanks guys!
Just checked out the FLIR breach. I like it and in 2 months of saving will have it and it will go with the gen 3 PVS14 WP I have now. Great video and informative. Like you said Jack if you want it bad enough you will get it.
I ve always enjoyed watching birds of prey, I’d like to have a crow, hawk, or an owl.
This is one of the best informative shows you've done Jack now somehow I just got to save money up for night vision satyr shit hits the fan there's always Battlefield pickups
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Lithium recharge batteries of all kinds can be recharged by small solar backpack panels.
RNVG’s are constructed with an aluminum housing.
night vision for shooting (on your rifle). therm requires too much battery for continuous use, so a therm spotting scope you can sporadically utilize, when your objective is ir/vis light discipline. not something you would 'patrol' with, imo. but a game changing piece of kit for when it's your turn to be the seeker in hide and seek
Jerry 31 plus CE2 COTI. Overlaps thermal on nvg. 7k. Im good with it.
I just want to see the boogeyman lurking or the sneaky bear by my pee tree.
So the Thermal is for finding targets and the Night Vision is for engaging targets?
I'm way behind. I only have Iron sights on all my stuff. I'm getting ready to get Red/Green Dot sights with magnifiers.
I'm a ways off from night vision. What do I start with? Night Vision or Thermal?
I've only used night vision in the Army and that was the Old Starlight Scope on an M2 back in the 90s and some broken down night vision on perimeter guard duty in Iraq 2005.
The broken down night vision almost got us killed because we could not see the guy planting a bomb nect to our perimeter wall. It blew up with the insurgent and we were rather embarrased we could not see the guy before he blew himself up. All our NVG units had a black dot in the middle and we had to use the area around the black dot to see anything. Not ideal.
Get a red dot first, imo. I recommend a Holosun 510c (or the green one if you prefer, but I go with red, because everything is green about 3/4ths of the year, here).
You can modify it to protect the emitter without blocking the glass. I took a piece of plastic packaging and just gorilla taped it to the 510c. So, it looks like a 512c, but there's no second piece of glass. This means that light-permeation is better. With the 3x magnifier on the NV, I can't see through the aimpoint all that well, but I can see through the 510c (dot only).
So, imo, 510c, first. Irons are terrible to use at night. You can get away with a lot with just natural night vision.
I’m going to purchase the iray mh25 V2 to run in conjunction with my pvs14 hope it works out
Mh25 is nice and blows the flir breach away.
To protect this expensive gear from natural or man made EMP, it should be kept in a faraday cage. Any input for a trusted company?
I think a big issue is how does the average person carry all that (or afford it)? I can't imagine the typical housewife lugging a pack that weighs 120 lbs.
Thermal doesn't work threw water. If your hiding under 4 inches of water. No one will see you. Yet. Sound travels threw water very easily. Say you want a bunker. Their underground anyway. Okay. Then, put a pound over the top of it. Then make a water fall. Build your air system into it to hide the heat. I have IR. I want thermal. My property is in a forest. Mainly to for the human kinds. For wildlife. Bobcat, black bear, mountain lions, wild pig, raccoons, etc.
I've been coyote hunting for a few years now and there's so many options on the market between the 2 night vision and thermal last year I got my first thermal scanner I bought the atn odin 320 and I've used pvs 14s that one of my buddies had and honestly I get the idea of night vision being nice to navigate but with my atn odin I can navigate just as easily as the pvs 14s that might be just me but it's really hard to beat a thermal I have an atn 4kpro and a sightmark wraith for one of my buddies to use and what I can see with the thermal scanner vs the NV scopes is impressive nothing in the woods can hide and one thing worth mentioning is the atn odin 320 is only $1200 so for anyone looking for a good budget thermal you should check it out the image looks better then the flir that he was using
hint its neither
its high infrared and EM is cutting edge
Do what is the consensus on the breach -14 setup.
I read Force of Nature by C.J. Box last summer. I think Dave would like it. Crime fiction about a falconer.
@Jaques Rabit It is a Joe Pickett, Game Warden crime series. His friend Nate, the falconer, is former Special Forces agent hiding out in Wyoming where the story is set. Leans toward falconry skills, the birds and landscape. I give it 5 stars. Val
That sounds like a great book!
@@DaveWomach It really held my interest from beginning to end.
Awesome video ! Thanks Jack!!!
Good information here.
I love this info bub keep up the good work
Auto gating is not the same as auto gain/manual gain. Auto gating is a fail safe whereas auto gain and manual gain change the level of brightness. The auto gating feature is in almost every tube now these days. However, not all tubes have auto gain. Manual gain can be very useful in a pvs14 where one eye is unaided to reserve natural night vision in that eye.
Keep doing the Lord's work brother🙏👊💪🤙🇺🇸
Great video I have some gear to save up for
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He cracked me up when he said he bought night vision and was afraid he’d break it 😂 was nervous about the samething because back in the day when he’s talking about it was a huge thing “civilian night vision” led a lot of people to believe it wasn’t as stout or as robust as military kit 😂 good interview you caught me off guard with that COTI set up being tracked with it makes it very hard to evade certain groups tracking you
Definitely fusion goggles the way to go!
“Your not gonna break them” every Marine Lcpl :::challenge accepted::::
Fish eye lens though seems odd was it flat
This was rad
The ecoti is a total game changer. I know it’s expensive but what’s your family’s life’s worth to you
What do you think of holosun thermal overlay reflex sight that is coming out this year
I'm a recent widow with no family or help. My only income is Social Security. Does anyone have any suggestions for what I can do to be prepared? I'm pretty good at DIY and making do with less.
would you know why the NVD i have every time i use it my eye starts getting really itchy ?
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Stay frosty stay strapped stay dangerous
Hey jack, what Jarm is that? i really like it.
I'm oloking to buy the Flir soon. What bridge, or mount are you using? I'm saving up for the PVS-14 after. Thanks.
What does everyone think of piston conversion kits in response to helping reduce carbon fouling in your ar?
If you're running a can, PWS mod 1 upper and done. My Mod2 stays way cleaner than my DI guns when running suppressed. This example kind of just speeds up what long term use does without cleaning. The PWS bleed off system is kind of hard to beat for the price.
It will cost you a few hundo more, but you get to keep your DI gun in it's configuration.
I'd like to remind people that PVS 7s are a good choice also. You cannot see anything more with a PVS 14. It is the same technology. Would I rather have dual 14s? Sure. But I really cannot justify spending $7,000 on night vision when I can get 7s for $2,000. I used both in the Army and looking though a single 14 for more than a hour or two will make you hate life and give you a headache Fentanyl can't kill. Just sayin. As far as night vision VS thermal. I can do a lot more with night vision. Checking the perimeter looking for body heat and sniping thermal rules no doubt about it. And I would not want to go up against thermal with night vision. But I can move quietly all night long with night vision I can hunt with night vision ( hint illuminators make animals eyes shine like crazy) in a CQB situation give me night vision every time.
I have a weird question for anyone, I only have a monocular so that’s all my experience and point of reference, but could you run dual tubes (2 monoculars I’m thinking) have one focused close and one focused far, and have the image blended in your head and have both distances in focus?
Look up Tarsiers.
Great vid!
This is the 2nd time watching this, I watched probably when it was new and now watching it again. I have talked to other “experts” but I’m still lost and not sure I agree. I have a single pvs14 only head mounted, my main focus are shooting with the night vision. I am considering thermal, everyone I have talked to talks about a dual set up, and something like a rh25 I believe it’s called or a cheaper version of that kinda set up without recording capabilities. I with the single keep thinking a Jerry CE5 or an eCoti, so I can get the outline overlay. From
I do want evasion and detection capabilities but only as a 2nd priority. I keep thinking enhancing the mono night vision tube I have but I am being told to ad a stand alone thermal. Thoughts?
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Poors, flexed on.
The oxygen to bring rd ratio is all rugged up