This Netflix Sci-Fi Show is Exhausting...
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- CHAPTERS -
00:00 Intro
02:55 Episode 1: Atlas
13:19 Episode 2: Janus
22:07 Episode 3: Eden
27:59 Episode 4: Terra
31:46 Was There Plagiarism?
38:54 Outro 
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The mushroom rabbit monkey thing could make more sense to me if they explained a large mushroom reproduction cycle encompassing multiple rabbit and monkey reproductive cycles. As the rabbit population increases the monkey population increase until the rabbits hit some kind of critical mass after which the mushrooms switch to the spore fruit. This helps make it more plausible because it explains why the rabbits wouldn’t avoid the spore fruit (multiple generations of the spore fruit not existing) and why the system wouldn’t immediately collapse after one cycle.
How could the baby sky grazers be strong enough to crawl off a nearby cliff but not the adults that literally fly 24/7 (or whatever the day cycle is like there).
That's what bothered me too they should be ripped with muscle but perhaps that what keeps them from getting back up but it's still weird
Additive to that they where very shallow with explanation and went like this is an alien and we dont elaborate what makes it so alien also what bothered me is the very uncreative naming of species and that the last species was so stupid and did the I can do it tomorrow oh shit tomorrow will the sun explode thing why would a species so advanced do such a stupid thing
You're right that the earth science sections are actually really well done, and I do agree in hindsight (the scorpion section was fantastic) but in the end I was just so soured on it because of how little alien footage there was. Conceptually, I was extremely excited at the idea of a documentary series based on fictional alien flora and fauna, and so seeing all the reused footage and cutting back to earth so much was disappointing. Especially since it was to explain things like "life is attracted to water" which was frustrating since I thought "I already knew all that, I want to see it applied to alien environments please" and I ended up just giving up on the show maybe 15 minutes into episode 3.
In hindsight, that is a shame, because a lot of the time they are going to places on earth I dont know about and talking about animals doing things I wouldnt necessarily know, just with a setup I am aware about. And like you said that stuff is actually done really well. Things like the unequal split in the footage, the fact that it is reused so often and the concepts being so surface level makes me think they had a really cool Earth Documentary about what life on earth may say about life on alien planets, and then they were afraid they needed a hook, added the alien stuff and marketed it entirely around that, only for it to have the opposite effect and lose people with it. It feels like every decision made for this series was almost laser focused on making people not appreciate the stuff they did in the earth sections. If they just advertised this as a series about what life on earth could mean for alien life, and maybe even use less of the CGI stuff they had to just punctuate the end of each section I'd have probably liked this a lot more.
That being said, you actually inspired me to finish this series and then maybe rewatch what I already saw at a later date when I can some distance between me and this and go back into it knowing what to expect. Also I stopped the video before episode 3 since I was debating if I should continue or go back to the series first, so if I have more thoughts on the last half I wil add them.
Also this is a personal thing, I really dislike the naming conventions of the aliens, they take us to this far off alien world never touched by man, and then they just call the flying animal a Skygrazer? Even some fake scientific name and then have that in brackets or say its a nickname or something. Just a personal nitpick but I lost my immersion in the world basically 10 seconds into the start of it.
@@SmartSmears What's wrong with the names? You know, "rhinoceros" literally means "horn-nose".
Well for me especialy episode 2 Earth section isn't good because it is not lot of informations for 40 minute documentary. Animal planet documents had this amounght of informations in 15 minutes.
i really enjoyed the speculative xenobiology aspect, but the cutaways to real wildlife stock footage which cut back to the same animated sequence replaying itself before continuing felt really annoying, i couldn’t help but see the budget running out in front of my very eyes
Me and my brother said the exact same thing!!
16:00 Latitude vs Longitude: On a tidally locked world, they are interchangeable. The climate will be radially symmetric around the hypoaster, which is at the equator.
I'm also disappointed in how pop-sci treatments always state such worlds will be tidally locked, when it will actually have a spin-orbit resonance. It turns out that many factors can cause an odd half multiple to be more stable, *as with Mercury in our own solar system* ! This is not "locking", but will cause 3 solar days over 2 orbital periods. In addition, if there is any inclination, the sun can heat the entire surface quite regularly.
I remember the 2005 documentary. I had the same reaction seeing it "borrowed" for this thing on netflix.
This is a perfect example of why exclusives (in games, movies, etc) are bad. The entire point of an exclusive is to attract people to their platform, but it still has to stand on its own. Being exclusive gives no benefits to the content itself and actually harms it by limiting its market reach. If the piece of exclusive content isn't successful, it still won't get funded or get sequels. It's treated as if it isn't exclusive and needs to make money in order to justify its existence, but its money-making capacity is limited by being exclusive.
What was the point in making this exclusive if they weren't going to give it a proper budget to avoid having to reuse footage or have most of the content not being focused on its main point (the alien worlds)? Perhaps if it WASN'T exclusive, it could have gained a bigger budget and a better chance to be good content that becomes a better financial success.
If I hadn't watched this video, and I subscribed to Netflix specifically to watch this because I wanted to see the alien worlds, I'd be pretty angry and feeling scammed.
Orange River, this is one of the best "nerd shit" videos I have ever seen. You had me cracking up at your very valid reasons to be outraged at the inconsistencies in evolutionary science with the aliens. 😂 Best editorial/comedic critical analysis I've seen in a while. You got funnier the more the video went on. Thank you for the laughs and the "nerd shit". I would literally watch Alien Worlds episodes just to watch subsequent videos of you critiquing them later. This was awesome!
Everybody gangsta until the space monke grabs 'em with its stretchy arms.
It is a spaced MONKE with felinoid ears, no tail, and no visible nose. It preys upon wingless-four-limbed moths.
I've seen all the videos you recommend here except the new Netflix one. I'll give it a look. The Alien Planet show you mentioned was based on the book "Expedition" by Wayne Barlowe. I have that book too. The book has so much more in it that the TV version. I think you'd enjoy it if you can find it.
Yep, I've definitely seen this show years ago, and it wasn't on Netflix. I think it was on history channel.
Nice to see another video review from someone who had more to say than just "There wasn't enough aliens!" and actually took a lot of the same issues with the show that I had. You certainly had a lot more patience than me in actually detailing every episode, especially Terra. (I didn't even bother mentioning it it at all in my own review; it feels like part of a whole other show, honestly, and it's a bit beyond the purview of the angle of things I'm more interested in anyway.)
Pertaining to the "plagiarism?" section, I'm glad I wasn't the only one who noticed all the conceptual parallels drawn between _Extraterrestrial_ (I know it as _Extraterrestrial_ and didn't find out about the UK title until I was revisiting it in the wake of the Netflix show) and _Alien Worlds._ Dense atmospheres and giant flying organisms are a pretty common theme in speculative astrobiology (even _Alien Planet_ features giant flying life forms, though the ones seen in that show are basically jet-powered) so I wouldn't really call it plagiarism myself -- simply a case of convergent hypothetical evolution. (And uninventive titling; I watch a lot of prehistoric documentaries myself and it's becoming a pretty crowded field with "Dinosaur/[insert time period name] World/Planet", to the point that there's both a _Dinosaur Planet_ and _Planet Dinosaur,_ as well as two shows called _Prehistoric Planet_ with a third on the way.) Also, with all the reddit and Twitter posts you looked through, I'm surprised that you didn't mention the lightly manipulated storm chaser footage for a shot of a cloud during the sky grazer mating scene that might've been actual plagiarism on part of Netflix. (Granted, I'm having trouble finding it now but if I ever come across it again I'll link the thread here.)
Thanks for the thoughtful comment! Glad you enjoyed the review. I try to be fair ;) I'm normally not quick to call plagiarism since like you said, many of the concepts explored are convergent hypothetical astro-evolution ideas. Could be a total coincidence. I totally missed that about the storm chaser footage, if you do find it that would be neat to check out 👀
Anything could be possible on other worlds
A real life example of both radial symmetry AND using the same orifice for copulation and ingestion would be sea anemones, and in the 'mouth as breeding area' there's always the example of mouthbrooding fish. I'm sure you're aware of both of these, just a point of interest.
budgetary reasons seriously? if that were true that would mean animated movies with the same budget as this. which there is a lot of, could only be 30 minutes long as well. also i am pretty sure the reason, most people are angry at the live action segements. is because most of the biology discussed, does not really corrolate with the fictional aliens. it's like trying to explain how a car works, by using a bicycle as an example.
YES! Take me on a Journey! :)
Ok... I kept thinking I had seen this but knew I didn't.
I totally remember that older one!!
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Thanks for making this review! I remember this series being quite hyped before it was released. I watched the first episode and didn't love it, but kept on going, thinking that it'd improve. It had to, after all that hype! Sadly, it didn't.
I agree that the interviews with scientists are well done. There are some (like the woman researching in Ethiopia) that are way more interesting than others (the paraglider). But that's bound to happen, right? However, we're here for the weird alien creatures and it's so disappointing that they make little sense, appeared only fleetingly and most of the footage is reused. In Eden, which has an "incredible biodiversity", we only get to see two very Earth-like animals that are not very appealing. So yeah, this is not a good series. Even Sophie Okonedo, who has a very nice voice, just sounds tired and unfocused as the narrator.
I'd seen the British Alien Worlds; and I must say that yes, the Netflix version looked liked a re-hash when you started talking about the first two planets...
Also, most animals looked like they were literally pulled from a speculative evolution design book by John Adams, published under the title "Les Animaux du Futur" (Future Animals), an animated version of which being featured in a 4D ride in the Futuroscope (a French amusment Park near Poitiers, basically a French expy of Tommorowland/cheap Epcot Knockoff if it ever saw the light of day)
The creatures were also featured in the children version of the Science&Vie review, Science&Vie Junior (basically PopularMechanics with a way more generalist streak) and another special featured a second version pulled from a book by Sébastien Steyer and Marc Boulay who also made a design book of Speculative Biology, also called "Les Animaux du Futur" (Future Animals)
Animation don't happen in a vacuum, even when it's edutainment, and I think they'd rather make a knockoff of something that exists and "works", because it saves a lot of writing and production time; and I think that also goes a long way to explain the lack of explanation of the dynamics and evolutionary path displayed.
Because yeah, if you copy-paste someone elses work, you may not know the *why* behind a design choice.
I was looking for something like an alien nature mockumentary out of Alien Worlds, but what we got was a disjointed documentary that was half biology and half over-used short CGI clips.
Q: What has four wheels and flies?
A: I don't know, they didn't get around to naming it.
I can kind of see a reason why they went the detection they did for the death of the sky cutter mom. A few species are so decided parents they will die for their young. Like octopuss are well known for allowing themselves to starve to death to protect their eggs and some spiders mother's will let their baby's eat them to give their children a fresh start
Like ordering beer and you get served... Boiled beer.
I like this film series with realistic graphics or 3D animation. But it doesn't have a story like a movie that has a plot. It's just a document, so not many people like it. But when it comes to 3D animation, it's cool...
IMA F-Off, right in to the sunset with professor Wallace Shawn! "You only think I guessed wrong! That's what's so funny!"
Isaac Arthur is a good science and futuristism channel
Yes , yes he is...
17:20 Is that really such a huge offender with the logic of the orifice? I mean, one could argue that it's not logical for us to have our mouths be used for both eating and breathing. Like, a life form whose breathing organs are completely separate from their mouths (like you see with most of the animals in the Avatar films for instance) would not suffer from swallowing up stuff.
@@subraxas Oh thank you!
And yes, I can see what you mean. I still could enjoy it but I too would've liked some more explaination of certain things.
I think that the grazers are not evolving to avoid the orange fruit because they benefit from eating them.
Alien Planet is based on the famous speculative biology book "Expedition" by Wayne Barlow, and both the book and the show are astounding! Loved this video, especially since you basically validated everything I had nitpicked about this terrible netflix show.
Awesome!
4:41 casually see the cop car in the background
380p is probably a letterboxed video with the black bars removed. If you start with 480p in 4:3 aspect ratio, you get 5:3 or 1.667, which is then rounded to a multiple of 8 pixels.
man i just enjoy this series but your video opened my mind hahaha
Ur too nice/easy on Netflix...4 outta ten is generous
Love the video six out of 10 little high for me stop watching after the first hour on Netflix. I also was extremely excited for it to come out but you had all the points same points as me . Also what state do you live it looks beautiful there. I was thinking about moving out of state recently. Looking for places just get back to me and don’t tell me you’re town. Just curious about the state.
Better documentary: Alien Planet
Why on earth do you have a hammer striking metal as a sound effect the entire way through this video?
cannot be viewed for free?
Trinston was here. .
The little human child pet his name is in french earth just a detail btw great channel very interesting live long and prosper greetings from belgium sorry my english is not so good my french ok i'm from the flemish part of the country so bye
Damn you rocked this, great vid! Deserves definitly more views i.m.o.
Thank you so much!!!
ooo, I like this format
Actually, the death sacrifice of the mother sky grazer is actually extremely common in nature but just not due to high gravity. Spiders and octopuses both pay the ultimate price when they reproduce and will stay with their eggs till death, which yes, is super lame. The main difference is oftentimes the offspring would eat the corpse of their mother. Still lame but not implausible. In some moths, the adult forms don't even have mouths to eat so their bodies are simply there only to reproduce and they die of starvation soon after.
Thanks for the insight friend! I've of course heard of animals that die giving birth, I do wish that they'd done a more thorough job explaining the logistics of how it works for the sky grazer and making better comparisons to Earth animals.
@@OrangeRiver agreed.
But here lies a problem, animals that usually do this provide a lot to their babies. Octopus moms provide warmth, food, shelter. The sheer exhaustion of taking care of their babies kills them. The spiders give their babies food in many cases. Female sky grazers die and give nothing to their babies
The 2005 serie is awesome, I was really impressed by it. No need to see the recent one from Netflix. Looks like cheap stuff. And if I want to look something about alien worlds, I'm not looking for intereseting scientists on earth. Sorry, I'm not sorry.
This show is a ripoff of a show already did years ago. Nvm you already show that.
So glad to find other people disappointed by that netflix show. Can't believe you managed to watch all of them, they were just so, moment
I had high hopes in particular for episode 4 but felt that didn't live up at all to its potential. I do hope this gets a second season so we can at least see what else they manage to come up with.
@@OrangeRiver tbh I want to see someone like biblaridion get a budget, imagine the field day they'd have
@@franswaafranswaa5026 , Just watch all the speculative biology authors that Curios Archive is bringing. It is way better than this series!
This stuff reminds of Star Trek Discovery ..... Writing is insane !!!! Lol 😃
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Ayyyy
I’ve never heard of this but I saw space and I was hooked .
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