Easier argument: Superman can punch through a steel wall. (Source: He does it all the time) My face is less resilient than a steel wall. (Source: I banged it against a steel wall and it hurt a lot) QED.
+CrazyOrc It could also create a lot of antimatter which would be annihilated by matter, releasing pure energy, creating an even bigger explosion. It would also melt ANYTHING, maybe even atoms themselves. So you might be screwed. So don't mess with Superman. He might also rip a hole in space-time. =D
+AAV nope. superman can control him self and if he punches you normally, I'd only hurt, but if joker tricks sups in destroying you with single punch; here's what would happen: first sups teleports you on different planet (don't ask how) then he circle's the planet in light speed that your on (let's just say that you can breath on that planet) than he punches you so hard, your atoms split into smaller particles and those particles travel around the planet in speed of light but infinitely, than every version of you in different timelines are destroyed (because he time traveled and punch duplicated it self in all timelines sept the one where he didn't punch you) and all alternative universes are destroyed sept the one I mentioned, the last remaining one becomes main universe and creates all other alternate universes where nothing happened. The end.
not neccicerily you have to remember Batman carries a chunk of green Kryptonite with him at all times for what the Batman says is an "if needed option"
Well...... If its frank miller's Dark Knight comics and film adaptation you are referencing. Then it is definitively non cannon and frank miller has a suuuper boyscout version of superman in his head that may align a little with other superman comics but in general is a bit too over exadurated in that series. Now if its others your referencing the. OK. The definition if beaten..... Is a little too vague for argument.... So I'm just going to say that there are more times in cannon comics where batman openly admits to being both, in relation to, "power and intellectually" lesser to that of superman. Even on occasion saying that he could never beat superman. Now the argument still remains pointless and a little childish as neither hero would truly fight one another under normal circumstances. If there's some brainwashing or strange variables thrown into the bunch then yes, there is the microscopic chance that they would brawl. But 9.99999/10 times superman would a. Detain Bruce within a matter of nanoseconds or b. Just flat out destroy him if he felt it completely necessary. But again I'll stress, pointless argument. Both are fantastic heroes and idles to many.
Cheyne Eddy Superman is made weaker in movies he is basically too strong to be going full power in a movie or there would basically be no conflict. He also holds back a lot not to injure people, and why would you need to go full power when there is nothing to go full power on. And he also didnt want to kill him so why would he.
DKNight Wolves That only happened in the Dark Knight Returns, which is out of continuity. Superman can fight Gods like Darkseid and monsters like Doomsday, so it doesn't really make sense if he loses to someone who wears a mech suit. I mean Lex Luthor has a mech suit too and even he loses to Superman.
Superman can control his bio-electric aura just like he can his heat vision. This is how he shaves or interacts with his environment without destroying everything.
Tate Cash Superman won against Batman in the following comic books: 1. Lex Luthor: Man of Steel 2. Justice League: Origin 3. Superman: Sacrifice 4. Superman: American Alien
dont you all understant that its all about for fans not pissed of?? in real superman can beat easly batman but if they doit all batman fans will say ohhhh gogofncbmsbejzbdbd and thats why they made it like this in comic wins superman in movie batman
There are Superheroes all over that are much more powerful than Superman, but people don't want them nerfed. My main example is Silver Surfer (my 3rd favorite superhero) who is faster, stronger, and can absorb all of Superman's power away.
Well goku doesn't have Infinite power so that's why he can be beat but then he gains so much more power in the second fight and unless doomsday has infinite + 1 energy then it will make sense. Btw there's no way that freiza could ever catch up to goku he has too much power and it's way higher then freizas full potential.
The energy involved in Superman's punch is a little more than six times the mass of his first. The mass-energy of the observable universe is 53 orders of magnitude larger. That is approximately the difference between the energy of a single hydrogen bond and the amount of energy necessary to blow up the Earth. And that's not even considering that the Big Bang didn't just involve the part of the universe we can see.
If Goku were a cheap shot this would be true, but he's an honourable and chill dude- he fights people "at their best." Honestly though, it'd be interesting to see Goku vs Superman in a villain tennis match.
Weeelll, it never stated who won in the movie. And besides, it was BATMAN who was fighting Superman, as Supes needed Bruce to aid him in finding his mother. If it was SUPERMAN fighting Batman, then Bats would be jelly in seconds & therefore ruin his chance of finding Martha. Hence the infamous line: *"Stay Down! If I wanted it, you'd be Dead already!"* Case dismissed. 8-)
"I feel like I live in a world made of cardboard, always taking constant care not to break something, to break someone. Never allowing myself to lose control even for a moment, or someone could die. But you can take it, can't you, big man? What we have here is a rare opportunity for me to cut loose and show you just how powerful I really am."
***** He held himself back quite a bit in that scene. This video is trying it's best to give him realistic math but in the current comics he can move at someting like 19 times c and destroy planets/stars with one hit. He once held a blackhole in his hand so I don't think they should try to limit him like this.
Goku fans hear me out.. 1. Thanks to Superman, the word Superhero was invented and this was the foundation for all of other Superheros regardless of their respected Universe (DC,Marvel,Anime,Cartoon etc) 2. God father of ALL Superheros (since he is the first superhero to ever been created) 3. Thanks to Superman, the creator of Goku Series was inspired by Superman and it's origin..(hence why they have identical origin). This was even said in the interview. 4. As most of you guys know, One Piece anime series was inspired by Goku anime series and Goku anime was inspired by Superman. My point is that, all is connected. Instead of hating, give appreciation. Cheers
For those who say "Then why does Batman beat him" Well people, Superman isn't willing to punch Batman as hard as he wants to. Superman holds back obviously which is why I never agree that Batman has truly beaten him
Everything you said is exactly correct, Batman has A. Never defeated superman in a fair 1v1. B. Already admitted defeat in his own storyline (Hush). C. The only time he came close to beating superman was in non cannon else worlds story with the help of an atomic bomb, the military and green arrow, and still lost.
+jake bush could you please tell me the name of the story where batman+green arrow+an atomic bomb lost vs supes, you made me curious about it, i think i want to read it x)
Idk why Doc Oc didnt do that, but Superman doesnt want to hurt his friend Batman, deep down inside Superman´s a good person and Batman is not necessarily good like Superman is in the sense of morality.
BlackThornRomeo have you guys never seen Death Battle? They calculate a ton of this and put the two together. Although I'm not perfectly satisfied with the result, I can't deny that their math was very complete and showed just how crazy a fight between these two would be. Go check it out
***** Well I wouldn't know. I haven't really seen everyones debate on Superman vs Goku. Although your right, those arguements are horrible, even if Superman does win. It was just a lazy episode.
KillzGaming look it up he just wasnt good enough I understand you Chuck Norris fans may think he divine and all but um he fought a good fight for whatever it's worth
You should make an animation with a superhero called "Realistic Man" and give him superpowers that other superheroes have but make them completely realistic, like what super speed does to the body or what heat vision would actually do.
The punch in this video is at the force of 45 megatons. Superman's "Infinite Mass Punch" (which isn't physically possible to do in real life) strikes with the force of 10 octillion megatons. That's right... The punch in this video: 45 megatons. The Infinite Mass Punch: 10,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 megatons. By the way, I'm not even talking about pre-crisis Superman.
+starknigth1 It's not actually "infinite" mass, it's just the name of the technique. The huge, but finite number of megatons of force it deals has been canonogically said to be 10 octillion.
+MrDrProfessor4 The infinite mass punch is actually a flash thing, and it WOULD be possible in real life. The reason nothing with mass can reach the speed of light, is that as something approaches the speed of light, it gains more mass. So the closer you get, the more mass you gain, forever.
+TheBlackWaltz I know it's a Flash technique, but Superman has canonogically used it before. I'm aware that in the comics, the relative mass of the fist increases if it just keeps vibrating faster, but no speed was given when Superman used it. The only thing that was said, was that the force of the punch itself was at 10 octillion megatons. Superman's strength may or may not have played a part in that equation.
+TheBlackWaltz also... supermans fist would literally be a portable black hole.. sucking everything including superman into it because of its gravitational pull. he would destroy himself and the galaxy with his fist
What if he clapped both hands together with the same level of force? How much more devastating would it be for him not to hit you at all, but just give himself the most aggressive high-five in the entire history of time?
Another thing you have to consider is that people don't just hit with their fists, they hit with their whole arms and part of their torso if they follow through.
"superman wouldnt only knock the wind out you, oh no....he would knock the atoms out of you" is it just me or is that the most badass thing you have ever heard.
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What you just described was actually close to a technique Superman ACTUALLY has, called the Infinite Mass Punch. Instead of the fist merely moving that fast, he's basically vibrating it that fast AS he punches you like a normal right hook to the face.
The narration in Superman's comics states that he has to stop thinking like an Earthman when using super speed because human laws of physics no longer apply. So yes, he can go beyond light speed.
there is no "human laws of physics" the laws of physics are an absolute just because something is of a diffrent race doesnt mean it can pick and choose when the laws of physics applie to them thats just stupid and whilst i know this was probably said in the old comics if they were written now that would be instantly stupid because of dumb ass crap like that
karl prankard It was sometime between 1996 and 2011. I've had this argument a few times. What WE understand vs what a more advanced species understands could be as different as night and day. Our laws of physics may be negated by their technology or even their physiology. It's arrogance to think that our understanding of physics is the be all end all.
Han Solo but human understanding still wouldnt have an effect the laws of physics are absolute meaning nothing with mass can travel faster then light regardless of species understanding
+Emperor Palpatine but you gotta remember at this point superman had been weakened a lot by that nuclear blast and got beaten up with kryptonite. plus he still has limits due to his humanity and batmans still a good friend (well maybe less in Miller's universe)
so basically I would not exists even before the punch hits me... and everything behind me would get knocked miles back... I dont think any of bats armor can stand that.
So imagine being Superman and having this potential. To always have to be so incredibly careful with his strength. To me that’s what makes him interesting. That to have all this unreal power but still be able to control it.
+taehcuK probably not...him and superman are on or about the same level. Superman has punched realities into pieces. WHile we haven't seen Saitama do that...I don't know if he could
***** *While Goku can go up to Super Saiyan 4, Butthurt can go up to Super Saiyan infinity where he rages constantly and is very unpredictable, however he is also a bad strategist, sometimes he will need outside help, even if it doesn't exist.*
If Superman did not hold back and for some very rare reason batman would not expect it. Then yes, he would destroy batman. Factually, superman is stronger than batman, but situationally, they are equals. Even so, Superman has weaknesses. Not just kryptonite too.
+Rylan Browne so batman would just carry krypton so if he gets close he'll just fall to the ground and batman stabs him in the head, the end, because batman is ready for anything.
+Andrew Semuas thats not how it works, or superman would lose everytime he fights metallo, btw, superman could use his heat vision and kill Batman from the space, knowing that, supes only lose cause he doesnt want to hurt/kill Batman...
Hey Jake, I noticed that in the kelvin meter in the animation (1:45) says "Degrees Kelvin," even though it's not measured in degrees and is an absolute scale.
Not necessarily. The point of the video is what would happen if superman punched a regular human, it was basically disintegrate us. But doomsdays body is just as strong, if not stronger than supermans. So even at full strength it would take more than one punch to inflict damage on doomsday. (As depicted in the comics)
Terrence Washington Yeah, but I was talking about collateral damage.Their fight would have caused concussive shock-waves that would have leveled everything for miles around; and any human eyewitnesses would have died.
zemorph42 Actually, in the comics, their fight was so intense that the shockwaves WERE causing concussive force enough to kill people who were too close. Superman was restraining himself as much as possible to avoid doing this, but he restrained himself so much that he was basically letting doomsday beat the crap out of him. Metropolis was a warzone for a month comic time(or in real life, 2 years) between these two characters. Superman tried everything he could to keep the fight away from dense populations, but Doomsday would just brush Superman aside and attack the closest human and at great speed since that guy can move as fast as the flash.
what if superman and one punch man fought? one punch man is basically the anime superman, the only difference is the fact he is unable to shoot light beams from his eyes and he cant fly, there for he basically is superman just, different personality, different name, and different cartoon type, so basically what im asking, is what if two supermen hit each others fist at full force? two objects going practically the speed of light hitting each other?
I like Superman not only just because he can Punch Darkseid with Might, I like him because he stands for Hope, Inspiring, Culture, Good, Justice in Right way
Superman at his best? Maybe not Goku (well, if it's Majin Buu Saga, I may disagree), but I can name a handful of other Dragon Ball powerhouses that could.
Of course he wouldn't... Jake literally said that the writers can say whatever they want. If Superman was breaking the laws of physics, he could beat anything.
So essentially even when he’s fighting darkseid and doomsday he is still pulling his punches cause if he didn’t it would destroy everything in the nearby vicinity including civilians,
So basically if Superman were to punch the Hulk immediately with all his Strength, the Hulk would die? Because I don't think it would be possible for The Hulk to regenerate after being punched into the Molecular level. Damn, Superman is a beast!
munchiemaniac Who? The Hulk or Superman? Because Gamma radiation also comes from the sun. Which also powers up Superman. Just saying incase you're on the Hulks side.
***** The Hulk has gotten his face broken by beings weaker than Superman but due to his rage he regenerated. Not to mention how his skin can be sliced open by Wolverine and such. Superman's durability wouldn't allow those things to happen. Thus why I said if Superman immediately punched The Hulk with this much force then the Hulk would be knocked down to the Molecular level.
***** Not the worst conclusion, but there's one problem with it: Unless they decide to reboot his powers or go for drama that nobody will buy, no official story will ever have the Hulk die. Just like SCP-682 (www.scp-wiki.net/scp-682) and Doomsday, the Hulk exists as something that cannot be stopped permanently, or even for a reasonably long time. Thus, if Superman punched the Hulk, the latter would either Hulk out at the last moment with enough strength to resist the punch, someone would save the Hulk (i.e. the Sentry, Thor...someone equally overpowered), or the writers would throw physics out the window like Spider-man threw Wolverine and have the Hulk regenerate from non-existence. "His rage will never die" after all. It would be fun to see how they saved him, though, not to mention just the crossover in general.
RikoZerame I could see that happening. I'm just looking at it from a logical stand point (I know in Comics it's all fiction). The Hulk never starts off with enough rage to immediately take down a Superman-like foe. It's always showing him taking some punches, then with enough rage built up he would curve stomp who ever he is fighting. But in this case if Superman were to punch The Hulk with this much force then I don't see it possible for him to survive it. Hulks durability isn't anywhere near Supermans. At least not right off the bat that is. Not to mention The Hulk has been shown to tire out and revert back to Banner. Superman has almost unlimited stamina (As long as the Sun is up it's unlimited). And he could always sun dip. So imagine those punches after that lol.
Here's my question if you were use the spell Time Stop from D&D 5e and punch someone would it still have the same effect? I mean even if you're a bog standard human the air particles aren't going to be able to move out of the way of your fist and you're going to be effectively punching someone at light speed so as soon as time resumes would there be an explosion? Obviously this would not work in D&D because DND is the tabletop role-playing game and your DM would absolutely not allow you to do this. But take the spell apply it to real life would it work?
Superman Is a Big Bang Buster too. Since he did a punch much greater then the Big Bang and caused something big to happen. It happened in the Comics and Im sure thats way more then 5 times of the suns core. :p
Actually, anything with mass can exceed the speed of light, but not by traveling through space, rather, space would need to be contracted in front of the object, and then expanded behind the object. Although doing this would require harnessing negative energy, which no one knows how to create, but maybe Superman can create negative energy, allowing him powers like exceeding light speed, time travel, and reaction-less movement.
ShallowShi No, that's not true. While keeping a wormhole open requires negative energy, warp drives do not create wormholes. While no object with mass can travel THROUGH space faster than light, there is no speed limit to how fast space itself can move.
Harvey Dent He was already smashed in to subatomic particles, so I dont thing this would bother him and after he rearranged himself, he would just decompose superman to particles. Superman may be bullshit but Manhattan is god.
Harvey Dent He won Vietnam war, number one regret for USA . Batman outsmarted superman. Dr. M. would gang bang Lois Lane and make Superman watch. She would never forget the bbc ( big blue cock).
Theoretically speaking, the Flash isnt given the strength people credit him for, in reality he is as strong or even more powerful than super man since flash is deemed faster than the speed of light
yeah but going by what vsauce says, technically, flash is stronger cause he goes faster then the speed of light and the way punching works is massXspeed flash does have some mass and going faster then the speed of light adds and extra boost but this is just a theory
but they didnt include supermans strength during the video the punch formula is massXspeed and flash's suit helps him not burst into flams going in ultra sonic speen
so thats why in the scene when genos and saitama are fighting and saitama stops just before hitting his face the hole mountain behind him gets levelled
Easier argument:
Superman can punch through a steel wall. (Source: He does it all the time)
My face is less resilient than a steel wall. (Source: I banged it against a steel wall and it hurt a lot)
QED.
+ZorotheGallade Get rekt.
superman punching superman
super-ception
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In a room full of mirrors. *head explodes*
Because banging it against a brick wall would be silly
So there's a nuclear explosion before the fist even hits you? gg
Yeah but you wouldn't notice the explosion, or the punch, you'd be dead in a few nanoseconds... woaw ◉_◉
:o
+CrazyOrc It could also create a lot of antimatter which would be annihilated by matter, releasing pure energy, creating an even bigger explosion. It would also melt ANYTHING, maybe even atoms themselves. So you might be screwed. So don't mess with Superman. He might also rip a hole in space-time. =D
+CrazyOrc nah, you'd see him flying to you but your head be flying away cuz that punch.
+AAV nope. superman can control him self and if he punches you normally, I'd only hurt, but if joker tricks sups in destroying you with single punch; here's what would happen:
first sups teleports you on different planet (don't ask how) then he circle's the planet in light speed that your on (let's just say that you can breath on that planet) than he punches you so hard, your atoms split into smaller particles and those particles travel around the planet in speed of light but infinitely, than every version of you in different timelines are destroyed (because he time traveled and punch duplicated it self in all timelines sept the one where he didn't punch you) and all alternative universes are destroyed sept the one I mentioned, the last remaining one becomes main universe and creates all other alternate universes where nothing happened. The end.
Bruce Wayne saw this and he was straight on to that kryptonite
Lol
What makes you think he got to that Kryptonite in time?
Alanah Shae can punch through dimensions but is weaker to a green rock hmmmmmm
Well Batman you have officially done the impossible now to defeat God
Always keep a kryptonite
stay safe kids
Batman I will keep pink kryptonite opps big mistake
"Knock the atoms out of you"
I think we now know who will win in Batman v Superman.
not neccicerily you have to remember Batman carries a chunk of green Kryptonite with him at all times for what the Batman says is an "if needed option"
ruste shackleferd That chunk of kryptonite does nothing but weaken supes. A weakened supes is more than enough to defeat batman.
ruste shackleferd The problem is, can he see superman?!
Batman has already beaten super man many times in the comics
Well...... If its frank miller's Dark Knight comics and film adaptation you are referencing. Then it is definitively non cannon and frank miller has a suuuper boyscout version of superman in his head that may align a little with other superman comics but in general is a bit too over exadurated in that series. Now if its others your referencing the. OK. The definition if beaten..... Is a little too vague for argument.... So I'm just going to say that there are more times in cannon comics where batman openly admits to being both, in relation to, "power and intellectually" lesser to that of superman. Even on occasion saying that he could never beat superman. Now the argument still remains pointless and a little childish as neither hero would truly fight one another under normal circumstances. If there's some brainwashing or strange variables thrown into the bunch then yes, there is the microscopic chance that they would brawl. But 9.99999/10 times superman would a. Detain Bruce within a matter of nanoseconds or b. Just flat out destroy him if he felt it completely necessary. But again I'll stress, pointless argument. Both are fantastic heroes and idles to many.
But what if he punched a Nokia 3310?
Superman would be shattered
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+4_man You are so right
RIP to superman's fist
+BMAN488877 why not 128? It's the universe we're talking about after all
soo, he can knock you into quarks and gluons but cant beat a man in a robot suit?
Cheyne Eddy Superman is made weaker in movies he is basically too strong to be going full power in a movie or there would basically be no conflict. He also holds back a lot not to injure people, and why would you need to go full power when there is nothing to go full power on. And he also didnt want to kill him so why would he.
interesting...
Superman could easily beat Batman but he chooses not to hurt him. Even Batman admitted that in the story Batman: Hush.
DKNight Wolves That only happened in the Dark Knight Returns, which is out of continuity. Superman can fight Gods like Darkseid and monsters like Doomsday, so it doesn't really make sense if he loses to someone who wears a mech suit. I mean Lex Luthor has a mech suit too and even he loses to Superman.
because lex is a bad guy
Superman can control his bio-electric aura just like he can his heat vision. This is how he shaves or interacts with his environment without destroying everything.
soooo the big bang was super man uppercutting a school bully
Theswiftdude lmao
Superman can punch apart dimensions, but not beat batman...I see something wrong with this.
He can beat Batman and with ease too. It happened on numerous occasions.
***** I know lol but in the batman v superman movie and comic, batman won.
Tate Cash Superman won against Batman in the following comic books:
1. Lex Luthor: Man of Steel
2. Justice League: Origin
3. Superman: Sacrifice
4. Superman: American Alien
***** after the first one, batman should have been a puddle.
dont you all understant that its all about for fans not pissed of?? in real superman can beat easly batman but if they doit all batman fans will say ohhhh gogofncbmsbejzbdbd and thats why they made it like this in comic wins superman in movie batman
nerf superman
why ? because batman fans can masturbate over batman beating superman ?
Superman enemies are strong as superman himself.
There are Superheroes all over that are much more powerful than Superman, but people don't want them nerfed. My main example is Silver Surfer (my 3rd favorite superhero) who is faster, stronger, and can absorb all of Superman's power away.
***** No need to bring Batman into this.
rpsyco would the hulk be stronger? (i know he is not DC)
Well goku doesn't have Infinite power so that's why he can be beat but then he gains so much more power in the second fight and unless doomsday has infinite + 1 energy then it will make sense. Btw there's no way that freiza could ever catch up to goku he has too much power and it's way higher then freizas full potential.
If I was hit by superman i would probably be able to time travel while im dead
Then you’d be back to when you err alive again! Cool thought. Time travel kill x 1 ups
So that Batman v Superman movie is going to be real short.
I'm pretty sure he won't be that strong in the movie as he is in the comics if he was doomsday wouldn't stand a chance against him
Nope, its not that they downgraded Superman, its just that superman is not willing to punch a human as much as he wants to
+Tae Pro that is true
Of even!! Batman wins automatically
Basically Superman punches so hard that he creates a miniature Big Bang with his fist.
Ya basically
The energy involved in Superman's punch is a little more than six times the mass of his first. The mass-energy of the observable universe is 53 orders of magnitude larger. That is approximately the difference between the energy of a single hydrogen bond and the amount of energy necessary to blow up the Earth. And that's not even considering that the Big Bang didn't just involve the part of the universe we can see.
Of course not!
What if superman punched you?
I'd be a bit sad. :(
😔
That was rude man.
I'd cry
you would not even have a chance to feel sad. you would die before you even knew you were being attacked. honestly you would not feel a thing.
I would be depressed :(
Guy: laughs
Super man: punches him
Guy : disintegrates into nothing
Super man : ops I didn't mean to punch you that hard😮
And that was him holding back
That's something like Homelander would do
Goku vs Superman
1,Goku touches Superman
2,Goku uses instant transmission to a place with tons of kryptonite
3,Goku wins.
If Goku were a cheap shot this would be true, but he's an honourable and chill dude- he fights people "at their best."
Honestly though, it'd be interesting to see Goku vs Superman in a villain tennis match.
Goku doesn't cheat, Superman is stronger
Superman can turn back time. Superman wins
Pfffff
Kieran Crowley Sups wins, right?
In a nutshell superman can knock you into human soup
supersoup
No... there won’t be any of you left in any observable magnitude.
*atom soup
What if Goku, Superman, Chuck Norris, and Captain Falcon (with a falcon punch) did a 4 way fist bump :O
only goku and chuck norris would survive
So, what your saying is Batman looses.
I think everyone would lose, not just Batman.
Well, in the movie Batman won. he always have some back up plans too. btw i prefer when batman and superman are teamed.
VasTheHunter Shhhhhhh, that's the movie we don't ever ever speak of.
Weeelll, it never stated who won in the movie. And besides, it was BATMAN who was fighting Superman, as Supes needed Bruce to aid him in finding his mother.
If it was SUPERMAN fighting Batman, then Bats would be jelly in seconds & therefore ruin his chance of finding Martha.
Hence the infamous line: *"Stay Down! If I wanted it, you'd be Dead already!"*
Case dismissed. 8-)
The abbyssImosterDog we need the team of thor and hulk to stop superman if it comes to that I am sure together they would win
"I feel like I live in a world made of cardboard, always taking constant care not to break something, to break someone. Never allowing myself to lose control even for a moment, or someone could die. But you can take it, can't you, big man? What we have here is a rare opportunity for me to cut loose and show you just how powerful I really am."
Darkseid, prepare to get your face blown.
The fact that Darkseid survived that punch -a punch that can melt atoms- really puts thing in perspective.
***** He held himself back quite a bit in that scene. This video is trying it's best to give him realistic math but in the current comics he can move at someting like 19 times c and destroy planets/stars with one hit.
He once held a blackhole in his hand so I don't think they should try to limit him like this.
quark soup
But what if *Saitama* hit you in the face?
it will create a black hole ×_×
the punch as Superman
Or getting touched by Chuck norris
or getting hit by a 3310
or stepping on Legos
+KillzGaming Or getting touched by SpongeBob brother (that guy that destroy every items with one touch)
Nothing of course
Goku fans hear me out..
1. Thanks to Superman, the word Superhero was invented and this was the foundation for all of other Superheros regardless of their respected Universe (DC,Marvel,Anime,Cartoon etc)
2. God father of ALL Superheros (since he is the first superhero to ever been created)
3. Thanks to Superman, the creator of Goku Series was inspired by Superman and it's origin..(hence why they have identical origin). This was even said in the interview.
4. As most of you guys know, One Piece anime series was inspired by Goku anime series and Goku anime was inspired by Superman. My point is that, all is connected.
Instead of hating, give appreciation. Cheers
The phantom came before superman.
Colonel Shine he was just a scientist..a person with Phd qualification.
Say whatever you want, but I still consider the phantom a superhero. :)
Colonel Shine
And that has nothing to do with Superman, dumbass.
KennethMoreland read the whole discussion before jumping to conclusions
Superman may be strong enough to rip apart dimensions, but he fractures his hand trying to punch through Batman's plot armor
His Butman
For those who say "Then why does Batman beat him" Well people, Superman isn't willing to punch Batman as hard as he wants to. Superman holds back obviously which is why I never agree that Batman has truly beaten him
Everything you said is exactly correct, Batman has A. Never defeated superman in a fair 1v1. B. Already admitted defeat in his own storyline (Hush). C. The only time he came close to beating superman was in non cannon else worlds story with the help of an atomic bomb, the military and green arrow, and still lost.
+jake bush could you please tell me the name of the story where batman+green arrow+an atomic bomb lost vs supes, you made me curious about it, i think i want to read it x)
+ProjectUnite the why doesnt he just knocks him out, its like the spiderman vs dr octopus thing.
Idk why Doc Oc didnt do that, but Superman doesnt want to hurt his friend Batman, deep down inside Superman´s a good person and Batman is not necessarily good like Superman is in the sense of morality.
Superman has come back from death multiple times, Batman dies once and he's gone forever.
i can do that, hold my beer.
and ppl still say Batman would win lmfao
Depends which versions of each character fought
Yet he still lost lmfao
Superman isn't a releantless killer. He would hold back a lot
Superman still had a weakness, batman used that weakness which made him almost human, and superman held a lot back because he knew he was good
He CAN easily win with kryptonite.
me: *punches superman full strength*
superman: *punches me with no strength*
*super nova occurs somehow without a star*
So basically if Superman punched you as powerful as he could you wouldn't exist no more, he'd literally punch you out of existence.... sounds legit.
technically he would be punching you out of and possibly back into existence.
in all honesty goku would lose to superman.. i mean they literally OP'ed superman to break dimensions? imagine if his race still existed o.o
and being able to do a Punch much greater then the Big Bang? Yea they made him to OP and its a good thing he is one of the last Kyrptonians lol.
***** Didn't gotenks break through a dimensions. Goku would be beat but I'm just saying if gotenks could do it the.ln goku probably could
BlackThornRomeo have you guys never seen Death Battle? They calculate a ton of this and put the two together. Although I'm not perfectly satisfied with the result, I can't deny that their math was very complete and showed just how crazy a fight between these two would be. Go check it out
BlackThornRomeo You heard about the new form in the new dbz movie? He's getting even more op. Vegete too
BlackThornRomeo I just hope vegeta gets decent screen time
Sooooo what your saying is, if superman punched me I'd be dead?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
Indeed
you wouldent feel it you would vaporize
Levi Ackerman but Id still be dead right??
x1997xCamper oh yah very much
You and everyone within a radius of several kilometers, considering the explosion and the radiation.
Super man: high five!
BOOOOOOOM
Me: where am I
Oh the andromeda galaxy
I would just say the magic word ... MARTHA!
lovelywaz it doesn't work against supes.
That's for Batman
Hhhhhh LMAO 😂😂😂
It'd be funny if he said "You'll survive."
Well technically, you would... Just in another form? Lol.
XD XD XD XD XD ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh xx.
DX
Well, you would be conserved, sooo yeah, SILVER LININGS
Leon McDaniels sooo "This isnt even my final form" then? lol.
We are everything... And nothing... Creepyyyyyy.
Lets not forget he has lifted a book of infinite pages and lifted a being made from eternity. He has literally lifted infinity and eternity.
ljaquos Hey Wiz what's half of infinity
actually he did lift spectre so that bit is wrong
***** lol, what did Goku have to do with this comment chain.
That's not from death battle.
It may be used by death battle but that's all.
***** Well I wouldn't know.
I haven't really seen everyones debate on Superman vs Goku.
Although your right, those arguements are horrible, even if Superman does win. It was just a lazy episode.
My favorite part has to be where he says “he wouldn’t just knock the wind out of you oh no he would knock the atoms out of you”
so how did batman easily just block these punches?
oh wait, superman didn't hit him that hard
Even if he wanted to, he couldnt.
Just A Regular Guy true
Because of Kryptonite.
***** But superman would know, it wasn't even with batman when they were fighting at the start
MrHacksss Superman was dominating the fight at the start. But then Batman shot him with a Kryptonite gas grenade.
One Punch Man: *laughing sarcastically in a corner*
*chuck norris laughing in the other side of earth
Mad dog (a meme that's rivals with Norris) *Laughs from the moon sarcastically
+KillzGaming Chuck Norris lost to Bruce Lee...badly
+Isiac Artison How but chin?
(avgn played a game)
KillzGaming look it up he just wasnt good enough I understand you Chuck Norris fans may think he divine and all but um he fought a good fight for whatever it's worth
You should make an animation with a superhero called "Realistic Man" and give him superpowers that other superheroes have but make them completely realistic, like what super speed does to the body or what heat vision would actually do.
Yet he still got beaten by a bat with no powers....
Cyber Works
Not even a bat, just some guy having a midlife crisis while cosplaying as a bat for his dead parents while a butler he enslaved helps him.
Cyber Works yep
Cyber Works But he had kryptonite... And if you think about it there's no other way Batman could of beaten him. But yea, Batman still won.
IgorKoudinov check matpats video on how to defeat superman
Cavan Goh haha lol, true tho.
so why is superman having trouble with a certain human called luthor!
Airma D Noctis Because he doesn't want to level Metropolis and kill its millions of inhabitants
comic logics
He dosnt want to kill him but there are else world story's where he kills luther
Airma D Noctis he cant touch him cuz he never was proofed to be guilty
nor he can kill president
And also u don't know how much kryptonite lex has hands on , he made a whole axe made from kryptonite
You turn into subatomic paste.
he'd die a very painful death
rayleen fletcher not really. You'd pretty much cease to exist nearly instantly.
Slendy Slenderman i know but, when he did die he would be in a world of hurt
He wouldn't really exist long enough to hurt. Superman's fist would be going fast enough that you wouldn't even see it, therefore not feel it too.
oh. *eats pancakes*
The punch in this video is at the force of 45 megatons. Superman's "Infinite Mass Punch" (which isn't physically possible to do in real life) strikes with the force of 10 octillion megatons.
That's right...
The punch in this video: 45 megatons.
The Infinite Mass Punch: 10,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 megatons.
By the way, I'm not even talking about pre-crisis Superman.
+starknigth1 It's not actually "infinite" mass, it's just the name of the technique.
The huge, but finite number of megatons of force it deals has been canonogically said to be 10 octillion.
+MrDrProfessor4 The infinite mass punch is actually a flash thing, and it WOULD be possible in real life. The reason nothing with mass can reach the speed of light, is that as something approaches the speed of light, it gains more mass. So the closer you get, the more mass you gain, forever.
+TheBlackWaltz I know it's a Flash technique, but Superman has canonogically used it before.
I'm aware that in the comics, the relative mass of the fist increases if it just keeps vibrating faster, but no speed was given when Superman used it. The only thing that was said, was that the force of the punch itself was at 10 octillion megatons. Superman's strength may or may not have played a part in that equation.
MrDrProfessor4 It has nothing to do with vibration lol. The writers took a good idea, and failed.
+TheBlackWaltz also... supermans fist would literally be a portable black hole.. sucking everything including superman into it because of its gravitational pull. he would destroy himself and the galaxy with his fist
What AsapSCIENCE!!!!!!!!! That channel is one of my favourites
What if he clapped both hands together with the same level of force?
How much more devastating would it be for him not to hit you at all, but just give himself the most aggressive high-five in the entire history of time?
Well, he actually did nullify an F-5 with a clap that one time
I smell Goku Fan BOYS!! "Sniff" "Sniff" They are already here.....Watching....Waiting!!
I am surprised Captain Falcon fanboys haven't arrived lately.
Goku fan(GIRL) : Hi everybody. :)
We all smell superman fanboys. It smells a bit like uneducated trash making assumptions based on the undefined strength of a DC superhero.
Its called a fictional character in a fictional universe.. what you expect..
Guy KC Maybe a bit of consistency throughout the series...
I guess Vegeta isn't the only guy with a "Big Bang Attack" huh? LOL.
Another thing you have to consider is that people don't just hit with their fists, they hit with their whole arms and part of their torso if they follow through.
"superman wouldnt only knock the wind out you, oh no....he would knock the atoms out of you"
is it just me or is that the most badass thing you have ever heard.
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superman actually holds back when he fights. its not just fun for him, it is a hobby.
your my best friend
super aint real dog... get over your nerd dreams ^_^
iMDeStroyerxX Dude hes talking about the movies....plus you talkin like that swag dog at those buddies movies?
FChopsticks You mean like Franklin from GTA V.. yoo dog
I like idiots. but you guys are smart as hell. say something silly to attract the idiot trolls. I need a giggle
The moment you realize... this doesn't even include how strong he is lol
What you just described was actually close to a technique Superman ACTUALLY has, called the Infinite Mass Punch. Instead of the fist merely moving that fast, he's basically vibrating it that fast AS he punches you like a normal right hook to the face.
The narration in Superman's comics states that he has to stop thinking like an Earthman when using super speed because human laws of physics no longer apply. So yes, he can go beyond light speed.
there is no "human laws of physics" the laws of physics are an absolute just because something is of a diffrent race doesnt mean it can pick and choose when the laws of physics applie to them thats just stupid and whilst i know this was probably said in the old comics if they were written now that would be instantly stupid because of dumb ass crap like that
karl prankard It was sometime between 1996 and 2011.
I've had this argument a few times. What WE understand vs what a more advanced species understands could be as different as night and day. Our laws of physics may be negated by their technology or even their physiology. It's arrogance to think that our understanding of physics is the be all end all.
karl prankard I think what he means is by saying "Human Physics" is the human understanding of them.
Daniel Albornoz Exactly.
Han Solo
but human understanding still wouldnt have an effect the laws of physics are absolute meaning nothing with mass can travel faster then light regardless of species understanding
Only Frank Miller can save Batman in Batman vs Superman now.
+Emperor Palpatine but you gotta remember at this point superman had been weakened a lot by that nuclear blast and got beaten up with kryptonite. plus he still has limits due to his humanity and batmans still a good friend (well maybe less in Miller's universe)
BounceGaming - Old Account Nah, it's only for non-canon stories. Batman beat Superman twice in non-canon. Superman beat Batman 8 times in canon.
+Emperor Palpatine I'd prefer darth revan
+Emperor Palpatine Or Morgon Freeman.
+Emperor Palpatine Sad but true :(
so basically I would not exists even before the punch hits me... and everything behind me would get knocked miles back... I dont think any of bats armor can stand that.
Loooooooooooooongest possible way to answer "It would obliterate you".
The coolest and most informative way to to say it, too...
Would be informative if real... it's like watching Ghost Stories... yeah informative
I wonder how strong goku punch is when he is in his god mode pretty darn powerful I say
I wonder how powerful ssgss gogeta punch would be
Strong enough to hurt Beerus
Saiyan Goku no one cares
But weaker than SSJG Gogeta. Because it has been confirmed because ssjg is confirmed to be more strong than ssjg ssj.
Osvaldo Barrera you know what would be awesome ssgss gogeta versus whis
So this is why superman controls his punches
So imagine being Superman and having this potential. To always have to be so incredibly careful with his strength. To me that’s what makes him interesting. That to have all this unreal power but still be able to control it.
2:40 "There might be others fictional characters with more powerful punches."
ONE PUNCH!!
anime=childish
Lol, funny
+taehcuK probably not...him and superman are on or about the same level. Superman has punched realities into pieces. WHile we haven't seen Saitama do that...I don't know if he could
***** no, lol have you seen some superman joker crossovers? I don't see in any way how that makes him childish.
+Jacob Glaze Saitama restarts the universe with a full punch
What does Goku vs. Superman have to do with this video?
*****
*While Goku can go up to Super Saiyan 4, Butthurt can go up to Super Saiyan infinity where he rages constantly and is very unpredictable, however he is also a bad strategist, sometimes he will need outside help, even if it doesn't exist.*
Night Stab umm...i dont even understand but ok
SirVictor.YPower It's butthurt, a rage filled monster.
Night Stab Their jimmies have been thoroughly rustled...
***** Who cares? This is an unrelated video to that.
It's funny that they think batman would even have a chance.
I love this channel because it takes all those silly questions in the back of your head and answers them REALLY WELL.
that's how u know that super man will dominant bat man
If Superman did not hold back and for some very rare reason batman would not expect it. Then yes, he would destroy batman. Factually, superman is stronger than batman, but situationally, they are equals. Even so, Superman has weaknesses. Not just kryptonite too.
+Rylan Browne so batman would just carry krypton so if he gets close he'll just fall to the ground and batman stabs him in the head, the end, because batman is ready for anything.
+Andrew Semuas thats not how it works, or superman would lose everytime he fights metallo, btw, superman could use his heat vision and kill Batman from the space, knowing that, supes only lose cause he doesnt want to hurt/kill Batman...
Not really. Batman literally only wins because Superman chooses not to kill him. He has openly admitted this.
Andrew S. Then he would use long range
Man we already saw in the comicbooks how he casually just punches a hole in jokers chest after joker kills Louis Lane.
yeah,he didnt put much effort into that
a very light poke
he say what happen if superman hit you with 99% of power and speed
+Nick Harper Tsar bomba
He didn't punch casually. He punched with rage and malicious intent.
Zack Snyder should watch this video before filming the Batman vs Superman movie
Hey Jake, I noticed that in the kelvin meter in the animation (1:45) says "Degrees Kelvin," even though it's not measured in degrees and is an absolute scale.
Superman punches Goku.
Goku punches Superman.
Batman wins.
Superman punched me once
My everlasting black eye proves it
Also this is my first Vsauce3 video
So the fight between Superman and Doomsday should have done a LOT more damage than depicted.
Not necessarily. The point of the video is what would happen if superman punched a regular human, it was basically disintegrate us. But doomsdays body is just as strong, if not stronger than supermans. So even at full strength it would take more than one punch to inflict damage on doomsday. (As depicted in the comics)
Terrence Washington Yeah, but I was talking about collateral damage.Their fight would have caused concussive shock-waves that would have leveled everything for miles around; and any human eyewitnesses would have died.
zemorph42 Actually, in the comics, their fight was so intense that the shockwaves WERE causing concussive force enough to kill people who were too close. Superman was restraining himself as much as possible to avoid doing this, but he restrained himself so much that he was basically letting doomsday beat the crap out of him. Metropolis was a warzone for a month comic time(or in real life, 2 years) between these two characters. Superman tried everything he could to keep the fight away from dense populations, but Doomsday would just brush Superman aside and attack the closest human and at great speed since that guy can move as fast as the flash.
Terrence Washington So... Doomsday has stronger atoms than us? Once you get to the atomic level we are all the same strength.
what if superman and one punch man fought? one punch man is basically the anime superman, the only difference is the fact he is unable to shoot light beams from his eyes and he cant fly, there for he basically is superman just, different personality, different name, and different cartoon type, so basically what im asking, is what if two supermen hit each others fist at full force? two objects going practically the speed of light hitting each other?
You could have just made a two second video saying "You're fucked."
I like Superman not only just because he can Punch Darkseid with Might, I like him because he stands for Hope, Inspiring, Culture, Good, Justice in Right way
Amen Amen, me too I love what he stands for :). I admire his strength too but I admire that he uses that strength for righteous reasons even more.
Ouch...but at least you weren't punched by Chuck Norris.
Morgan Lee no u
dutchvonrichardson Jk
The anwser is hope you have the endurance of Saitama
SPOILER ALERT : SUPERMAN IS NOT REAL AND NORMAL LIFE WITHOUT POWERS SUCK!
+endou mamoro what if he saved 911 and all those people in the towers
+endou mamoro *cries*
This makes Superman with a GoPro look like shit
This is one of my favorite videos ever
My first vsauce 3 vid
Can you do Saitama from One Punch man ?
+TheBaconer yep
***** Yeah
+TheBaconer More of a Shonen parody. That's the whole point of the series, to make fun of the ridiculousness of Shonens.
And?
And?
Not even 10 seconds in and I hear Among Us
What if super man what's moving at the speed of sound and then punched you with all the strength
When he said it was 45 megatons, I don’t see why he compared it to Hiroshima, and not the much closer in power Tsar Bomba,
DBZ fanboys are delusional if they think that Goku can beat Superman at his best.
Superman at his best? Maybe not Goku (well, if it's Majin Buu Saga, I may disagree), but I can name a handful of other Dragon Ball powerhouses that could.
Of course he wouldn't... Jake literally said that the writers can say whatever they want. If Superman was breaking the laws of physics, he could beat anything.
***** Superman at his best = Superman Prime 1 million
DBZ verse dies horribly
superman.wikia.com/wiki/Superman_Prime_(One_Million)
***** nah gogeta would be impossible to fight lol
superman will obviously win......writers keep doing whatever they want with him
This video is incomplete. It skips the part about if Superman hit me, after i hit him back he would be picking his teeth up off the ground.
look out we've got a badass over here
Yeah and you'll be picking up your atoms off the ground
😂😂😂😂
God has the strongest punch he can punch your face and the galaxy is gone.
So essentially even when he’s fighting darkseid and doomsday he is still pulling his punches cause if he didn’t it would destroy everything in the nearby vicinity including civilians,
This video tells us one thing:
If you meet Superman at school and he asks for your lunch money, give it to him. Please, for the sake of mankind.
I don't need a four minute video to tell me that I'll die if Superman hits me.
but you did need the four minute video for it to tell you that punch would liquify you at the atomic level.
So basically if Superman were to punch the Hulk immediately with all his Strength, the Hulk would die? Because I don't think it would be possible for The Hulk to regenerate after being punched into the Molecular level. Damn, Superman is a beast!
but the hulk is powered by gamma radiation, so he'd just get stronger.
munchiemaniac Who? The Hulk or Superman? Because Gamma radiation also comes from the sun. Which also powers up Superman. Just saying incase you're on the Hulks side.
***** The Hulk has gotten his face broken by beings weaker than Superman but due to his rage he regenerated. Not to mention how his skin can be sliced open by Wolverine and such. Superman's durability wouldn't allow those things to happen. Thus why I said if Superman immediately punched The Hulk with this much force then the Hulk would be knocked down to the Molecular level.
***** Not the worst conclusion, but there's one problem with it:
Unless they decide to reboot his powers or go for drama that nobody will buy, no official story will ever have the Hulk die. Just like SCP-682 (www.scp-wiki.net/scp-682) and Doomsday, the Hulk exists as something that cannot be stopped permanently, or even for a reasonably long time. Thus, if Superman punched the Hulk, the latter would either Hulk out at the last moment with enough strength to resist the punch, someone would save the Hulk (i.e. the Sentry, Thor...someone equally overpowered), or the writers would throw physics out the window like Spider-man threw Wolverine and have the Hulk regenerate from non-existence. "His rage will never die" after all.
It would be fun to see how they saved him, though, not to mention just the crossover in general.
RikoZerame I could see that happening. I'm just looking at it from a logical stand point (I know in Comics it's all fiction). The Hulk never starts off with enough rage to immediately take down a Superman-like foe. It's always showing him taking some punches, then with enough rage built up he would curve stomp who ever he is fighting. But in this case if Superman were to punch The Hulk with this much force then I don't see it possible for him to survive it. Hulks durability isn't anywhere near Supermans. At least not right off the bat that is. Not to mention The Hulk has been shown to tire out and revert back to Banner. Superman has almost unlimited stamina (As long as the Sun is up it's unlimited). And he could always sun dip. So imagine those punches after that lol.
Here's my question if you were use the spell Time Stop from D&D 5e and punch someone would it still have the same effect? I mean even if you're a bog standard human the air particles aren't going to be able to move out of the way of your fist and you're going to be effectively punching someone at light speed so as soon as time resumes would there be an explosion?
Obviously this would not work in D&D because DND is the tabletop role-playing game and your DM would absolutely not allow you to do this.
But take the spell apply it to real life would it work?
Any person that can punch dimensions apart can deffinetly beat Goku, Batman, and anyone else you want to add to that list
Yes but, the demenison they where refering to in Infinite Crisis is not thumb sized. And tell me when Goku hit anywhere close to that hard.
Superman Is a Big Bang Buster too. Since he did a punch much greater then the Big Bang and caused something big to happen. It happened in the Comics and Im sure thats way more then 5 times of the suns core. :p
How about dr manhattan
no idea, I'm honestly not familiar with Watchman at all
lol
what happens if superman punch you?
>ded
Actually, anything with mass can exceed the speed of light, but not by traveling through space, rather, space would need to be contracted in front of the object, and then expanded behind the object. Although doing this would require harnessing negative energy, which no one knows how to create, but maybe Superman can create negative energy, allowing him powers like exceeding light speed, time travel, and reaction-less movement.
isint that the principal behind warp speed?
max W
Yes, correct
Deliciousbutter
Not true. Generating negative energy is theoretical, but if we managed it, then warp drives are totally possible.
Doing such a thing would not be traveling at FTL speeds. It would be creating a wormhole.
ShallowShi
No, that's not true. While keeping a wormhole open requires negative energy, warp drives do not create wormholes. While no object with mass can travel THROUGH space faster than light, there is no speed limit to how fast space itself can move.
Little did Jake know that light speed is Superman's jogging speed
One real punch from Superman would K.O. Dr Manhattan.
Harvey Dent One infinite mass punch from flash would tear apart earth.
Harvey Dent He was already smashed in to subatomic particles, so I dont thing this would bother him and after he rearranged himself, he would just decompose superman to particles. Superman may be bullshit but Manhattan is god.
Harvey Dent
He won Vietnam war, number one regret for USA . Batman outsmarted superman. Dr. M. would gang bang Lois Lane and make Superman watch. She would never forget the bbc ( big blue cock).
HippiesKiller007
I don't comment on bullshit speculations. One Punch = K.O. Hard facts.
Harvey Dent dude, dr.m is the only character who has the power of a god
Theoretically speaking, the Flash isnt given the strength people credit him for, in reality he is as strong or even more powerful than super man since flash is deemed faster than the speed of light
flash strength is not enough to hurt superman.
yeah but going by what vsauce says, technically, flash is stronger cause he goes faster then the speed of light and the way punching works is massXspeed flash does have some mass and going faster then the speed of light adds and extra boost but this is just a theory
JustSomeGamer And the flash would have to have superhuman strength so his legs wouldn't disintegrate
but they didnt include supermans strength during the video the punch formula is massXspeed and flash's suit helps him not burst into flams going in ultra sonic speen
correction flames
WAIT... So when Superman punches me, i will turn into the big bang?? That's cool...
Ima scientist 8P
so thats why in the scene when genos and saitama are fighting and saitama stops just before hitting his face the hole mountain behind him gets levelled