worth noting that mlynar's trait effect means that although he can have his skill up in 22 seconds you have to wait 40 to get max damage. As with tequila, he still hits really hard if you don't wait, but like, technically he can't have the crazy cracked 4k damage in 22 seconds
I honestly don't mind Mlynar powercreeping Silverash for burst DPS. Afterall, Mlynar is pretty much in the subclass archetype that is revolved around burst damage - Liberators whose attack literally scales but can't attack outside of their skill duration. Silverash is more of a Jack-of-all trades and can handle lots of different roles to a certain degree. In fights where consistent pressure is required or requires helidropping, Silverash has that potential to do burst DPS with his S3, but his main utility is simply his insane flexibility for whatever you need him for (S3 allowing him to hit enemies outside of normal range, Invisibility reveal, Redeployment speed reduction, S2 for actually blocking and stalling). Mlynar can't offer any of that. Imo, his low DP cost is directly offset by providing no pressure at all to the lane for 20 to 40 seconds due to his trait. He just sucks at redeployment, and losing the ability to be redeployed and become immediately combat-ready effective is a huge downside. Doubly so since he cannot manually deactivate Skill 3 to control his skill timing. However, he excels at simply deleting stuff once he's ready to go. In most cases, I still see people using Silverash over Mlynar simply due to the ease of use and flexibility that Silverash provides. Not only does retreating Silverash give some DP back for another operator, you also don't waste a deployment slot doing nothing for that same duration. In most cases, this kind of gameplay is more in-line with general playerbase usage. Mlynar is overkill in most situations, but when you need his damage, he'll definitely be more useful for very difficult encounters by dropping the difficulty via brute force. It's already pretty amazing that Silverash gets compared to the actual burst DPS of the Guard Archetype in general.
Except thats just wrong because mlynar is the most used guard in the CN as of currently and i had seen way more people using mlynar than SA Not to mention Mlynar is much MUCH easier to use He doesnt die he doesnt need to be redeployed and he doesnt need any help from anyone to survive or get buffed to actually damage enemies SA isnt a jack of all trades as thats litterally mlynar I get that people are attached to SA but saying he is easier to use or used much more than mlynar when thats absolutely not the case is just wrong
@@yuurina5092 SA IS easier to use though. I'm not going blindly into stages with an operator that's unable to ease a lane's pressure immediately after being deployed. Mlynar is easier to use when you know how the stage going to turn out, but going into a stage with limited info? SA is the better option because his kit gives more general benefits than Mlynar's, thus the versatility. Perhaps the reason CN is using Mlynar more simply because he's the newer operator. Using SA for around 2 years must be boring. It's not about being attached to SA, it's about carefully analyzing each operator's uses, giving credits where credits due. You compares SA's kit with Mylnar's like "SA damage is lower than Mlynar's, he dies so easily, he can't survive ect..." when that's just an incomplete analysis. Eg, SA damage is good, but Mlynar's much better. Why? Because if his damage is the same or only slightly better than SA, he would die on release because SA's general kit is better with respectable damage. So for a general team comp, SA offers more, but if you know what you're doing, Mlynar is better.
@@EmEm-fm4nn SA is easier to use? In wich way? "İmmediently ease lanes" yeah just a 7 dp difference for double dps hp for half the dp cost and sp cost Seeing someone say that mlynar isnt good for blind runs and only used in CN because its new is the funniest thing i had seen Why do people try their bash to hate any broken male operator that gets released? Thorns mountain and now mlynar I know that its a hard to swallow pill that mlynar power creeps SA but please dont get THAT delusional about it as Mlynar is miles ahead better in blind runs in every context
@@EmEm-fm4nn also mlynars dps is not "slightly better" than SA Its litterally DOUBLE the dps of silverash with 4k total dmg each hit Saying this is slightly higher than SA is just insane And also mlynar can activate its skill 3 times before SA can even redeploy and use his skill Saying SA is better for blind runs when entire CN disagrees is just wrong please just watch any video about mlynar (especially Yiis ones) to get a context on what you are trying to talk about here
I guess the more accurate term should be that SA got powercrept by Mlynar in terms of power and therefore general usage I'm not sure if Mlynar can hit aerial units or not (judging from the video and CN usage I'm assuming yes) but when it comes to SA pre-Mlynar, I would guess reasons for usage is abt 90% TSS, 7% invisibility, 2% redeployment strats and 1% his other skills. With Mlynar it's probably 99% S3 and 1% anything else (timing issues aren't as strict in general content anyway) so now there's much less of a reason to use SA over Mlynar if all you're looking for is dmg
Hey I use Hellagur in my roster D:< Nah I agree though, it's always bothered me that the Mushas technically have no talents (Hellagur gets one, because he's a 6star and gets two talents) because their 'talent' slot got eaten up by something that, these days, would be a 'trait' Also as a casual passerby, I will say that the modern day Hellagur use in the common roster is to deal with arts enemies, so his HP remains constantly low (he can't dodge arts) but he can keep himself alive through ASPD and S2, meaning consistent high DPS. Guess who's still using him to lane hold in Chapter 10 YAHOOOOO
This is truly content on the platform of RUclips about the mobile game Arknights made by the content creator Yii Arknights, with said content focusing on the guard class. Truly the content of all time
it's not a super good sign that silverash is getting powercrept, so many operators have been lately, really dreading the days when every starting 6 star has a better alternative
@@oberon5657 true, but new units are overall really starting to powercreep schwarz/fartooth -> pozy hoshiguma (s2) -> penance phantom -> texas the omorashi ch'en -> irene
@@Genshinlmpact True enough, it's a difficult balancing act for sure. On one hand they want new units to be appealing, but they're taking lengths to keep the OGs relevent. I Suppose these slight niche variations plus expanding modules (personal customisation preference if all units have 2+) could help perhaps?
Texas and phantom have different niches like Mlynar and SA too. When 1 is crowd control art guard type, when Phantom is more early lane holder vanguard type with summoner. I think taxes will use too block, kill huge enemy while phantom most likely to kill, tank enemy with debuff. Yeah peoples alway spaming SA can helidrop but mlynar also have a great helidrop potential with his 11 Dp. Even with 23 skill up time ( half his dmg potential), he still a really strong early sweeper. When SA own a really good sp niche, with 10% decrease spawm CD and attack up.
Whole story line of vids are always sucking me in like Mint's ability - just incredible! I just would like to see Whisperain appear in vast Yii universe and I will legit die if she would become permanent part of those sketches.
Mlynar doesn't exactly replace Silverash; SA has the anti-Invisibility, passively buffs his entire squad just by being there (he... pays for better equipment, because he's rich, I guess??), can schwing all over the place fairly shortly after deployment, & still serves normal blocking duties + can attack (& attack drones, even) without skill up. On top of that, Mlynar loses part of his ATK buff on S3 every time he successfully kills an enemy. And even besides that... SA S3M3 hits an extra enemy & has an extra tile of range on the top+bottom. I'm not going to say Mlynar is worse or anything -- his burst damage is fucking insane in S3 -- but he requires a lot more playing around him, since... he doesn't do anything without skill active, and even if his S3M3 means he only needs 22 SP, he needs almost double that time to get his full ATK buff: Liberator Guards need 40 seconds offskill for their ATK to fully charge. Mlynar's insanely good, I'm not going to argue otherwise; but, like, if his damage wasn't that cracked, he would be pretty bad? He NEEDS to do double Truesilver Slash's damage because otherwise he'd be pretty nothing!
I hope his mod ends up good, though since lords are a strong archetype with a penalty baked into their trait I don’t see their stage 1 mods leaving just the talent boosts. He’s still the only op with a global redeploy cooldown reduction so if that gets a significant, hopefully unconditional buff that’ll thrust him back up.
Honestly I kinda have mixed feelings on wether or not Mlynar truly powercrept Silverash. It just feels to me like this might be a situation where, sure, Mlynar may deal more damage, but SA's damage is "good enough", and the other stuff he brings to the table, namely the -10% redeployment time for all operators, might still make him see more high risk CC usage than Mlynar. Kinda feels to me like SA will still be preferable for most people for easier content because he's simply easier to use overall, and for tougher content like high risk CC as well because his talent is bonkers for CC with all the constant redeployment that usually happens at high risk.We'll see tho.
I've heard from another person that Mlynar has been used more often than SA in CN server. Not entirely sure for cc content tho. I personally would pick Mlynar more cuz I need his dmg and skill consistency. But then again, you can use both anyways, which I also plan to do.
Honestly, this constant comparison between SA and Mlynar wouldn't even be a thing if their skills didn't look so similar. In actual practice, Mlynar is closer to a ground based summer Ch'en.
Same. People still havent realize that he is on same level as wet chen and surtr because they always compare him with SA. But its okay they will learn soon enough
I still don't believe SA/Mlynar is a problem. I already only used SA in situations where Mlynar wouldn't work (Heli-drop) anyways so he was dropped from normal service a long time ago.
im pretty sad when HG decided throw away old op and make a better version of it.. kay, I know that they have their own role like mlynar being cleaning service and SA, a delete button that u can put him everywhere(and his talent niche), but still.. its big sad
Except his "niche"....appears almost everywhere. Like Yii said, his talents are so universally helpful that a lot of the time, you'll find yourself slotting him in for the talents alone, with his S3 being just a (BIG) side bonus. GoldenAsh has a lot of aoe damage on a decent cooldown and a long duration, but that's about it. His taunt finds little use (or even detrimental, as mentioned in the video), and the bonus true damage is not impactful. He also takes your deployment slot doing absolutely nothing for 40 seconds, whereas in SilverAsh's case, you can just retreat him and leave the slot for someone else. I don't think Mlynar's purpose is to powercreep SilverAsh. HG probably just wants people to deviate from the existing DP stacking + helidrop meta (which indirectly nerfs Surtr, SA and some others) by introducing powerful sidegrade operators. Mlynar, Pozyomka have been great examples of this, since they do a lot of damage but don't want to be retreated or redeployed. The upcoming Texas alter is also an absolutely amazing addition to this playstyle, as she, on the other hand, wants to be redeployed as many times as possible, being more DP efficient than Phantom, and so she'll be eating all the spare DP you get from not redeploying Mlynar and Pozyomka.
@@sharksarecool6717 SA is also range guard and his S2 makes him a funny tank. I mean his S3 is better like, 99.99% of the time but hey, it's there Also, Texas Alter!?
@@daddysempaichan TexAlt was announced for the upcoming anni event on CN a few days ago and has been all over the AK Tubesphere since. I'm actually surprised someone who's on the latter at all (seeing as how you're here on Yii's channel) has managed to miss the news.
@@sharksarecool6717 yeah, i just feel bad.. I know that every op has their own power i can say.. just like guard skadi, she still great tho, and solid with her abyssal hunter team.. would u use her when have ntr, even have a downside in s2, but she give more utility, why not.. or people will says, "just surtr it", huhh surtr doing surtr thing, she cant hit drone, but still.. make me bad and sad at the sametimes😅
@@daddysempaichan On the contrary, I think Mlynar's S3 is better than SA's 70% of the time. The remaining 30% of the time is either when you actually need SA's 2 extra tiles on the side (which isn't common, but I often find his extra tiles extremely useful for clearing trash mobs on other lanes while you're killing a boss/elites on the main lane), or when you're cleaving down invisible mobs. Also sorry for the Texas alter spoilers lol. I just assumed everyone here is caught up with CN news so I didn't think twice.
Just a thought Since Mlynar costs 8 DP less than Silverash, at default settings that should regenerate at the same speed as 8 SP. Mlynar needs 7 more SP than Silverash (22 > 15), so theoretically Mlynar should be able to get his first skill activation faster than Silverash right? Not to mention the fact that some CCs have DP reduction, meaning that the 8 less DP that Mlynar costs might actually be even more useful. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong
That's a true, but also a very bad assumption because you generally don't airdrop either unit at the start of battle. Unless you're really SP starved at the end of the stage somehow. You usually use them to clear out bosses/mass spawns near the end of the stage, no?
@@kennar5348 Even on the rare occasions when you'd open a stage with SA, I can't remember any such occasion where I didn't need him to block early enemies until his skill came up.
@@ChaosDraguss hmm yea the only one I can think of off the top of my head is WD-EX-8, which was a SA opening. SA might still be better for that stage tho still idk.
No SA, you're not getting off the banlist just because you're powercrept. You're still too much damage for too little effort. Pick up a few more drawbacks and then we'll talk.
Not a fan how they pushing for rather visible powercreep with some of these units. Example Scharz - Pozemka. All the summoners - Ling, x - Chalter. For Mlynar - SA, SA at least has that reveal on invisible enemies which still makes him a great choice when needed. But yeah its kinda sad how blatant the powercreep has become.
I feel like SilverAsh is still pretty good in other gamemodes like IS due to him being much more versitile for certain maps or conditiokns IS throws at you
@@patrickstar8132 That comparison doesnt stick, when you look at the reasons why the Operators are used. SilverAsh has a lot more versatility in his skills than Mylnar. Mylnar is used for his objectively better damage. However as a Liberator he will not hold a lane while his skill is off Meanwhile SilverAsh can use his s2 to hold a line and regenerate, which helps against map conditions with permanent damage. I wont argue that Mylnar is better at making people go away, but he cannot replace SilverAshs anti Invisibility skill, nor can he double as a pseudo defender with regen. I am not saying SilverAsh is more popular, nor will I say that Mylnars skill is not better than SilverAshs s3. All I wanted to say is that SilverAsh for all the powercreep still has a fair niche that Mylnar cannot replace him
@@kiuhh1118 That is not my point. My point is that Mylnar cannot replace SilverAshs niches. I wasnt even refuting that Mylnar is more popular. I was saying that in IS there are situations where SilverAsh is simply better suited to deal with the situation
@@Metalseadraking , is3 doesn't work like that at all. Again, it's time to face the reality that mlynar is better than sa in 95% of the cases. You know what's good to bring with you if you don't know what the map is? Maybe something thats always consistently good? I really don't get this logic.
Hellagur (and other Musha guards) literally got oscillating DPS bc of the tension between their healing attacks and their increased ASPD at lower HP, what is this garbage lol
it made sense back in the old days they couldn't have damage and survavibility at the same time but with how high enemy damage and armour is these days they cant do ither
With SA getting down the meta list for good, three things are possible to happen: either he will get a very good(or very bad) module, an outright alter or both as seen by what happened with Skadi guard lol
I think after dominating for 2 years, we are ready to accept it's time to let other ops shine a bit. SA has a pretty decent niche which is revealing invis with really good damage and that should be it imo.
@@lebanana151 TBF I think the idea might still be that modules create more niches, but who knows. Some modules are just nuts lol. Also this sort of thing just happens in a game this large man xD.
@@narius_jaden215 it was too obvious that mlynar will outpower SA in every way Also, I think modules are there to kinda FIX operators, and make them more usable rather than niches For example, ethan's module makes his bind _reliable_ (?) And cutter module makes her charge much faster and so on Ptilopsis's module was garbage since a bit of range wasn't of any use,altho she is already powerful as an sp battery and super healing, while perfumer's made her more reliable with her passive buff
@@lebanana151 I mean, Mlynar's numbers are better, sure, but honestly I feel like it's just fancy extras that don't really make him more useful? Like, there's definitely times where both SA and Mlynar do the job, but SA's traits, extra range, block, and not needing 40 seconds to reach full attack make him more favourable, and that those situations are just as likely (if not more) than situations where Mlynar's bonkers extra damage is needed. TLDR: both sweep but whilst Mlynar dumped all his points in damage, SA spared some for utility that might be more useful more often than the extra, often overkill, damage.
I'm just wondering a bit.... What if Musha Guard module is "+1 block when skill is not active" and gave +70 Def. I think that would be really interesting. They become more reliable lane holder while making them take more damage so you can benefit more from their talent.
That's not really true. You guys say that he needs his talent but he really doesn't, even if activate his skill right away mlynar dps is still better than sa. not to mention lower dp cost making his deploy faster than sa.
God no pls if you're identifying as a fossil when referencing the OG few CC runs then I have to do so as well given those were absolutely the hardest I went in on any AK events since I started the game and I'm too young to call myself a fossil
And here, we only have to press alt together with L to create Ł (treat it like like spoken W in English). ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) You can also look up the pronounciation of "młyn" (mill) and just add the suffix. Thanks for the presentation.
Guard is a main dps class for ground unit, they are useful in 99% of the game, so of course HG have to gave them a lot of love. After all dps is love, dps is life in this kind of game.
I thought you stopped uploading, but i think its just that youtube stopped recommending your videos and stopped showing any sign of you uploading like the blue dot in the subsrciber tab etc. But now that i know this ill rewatch the last few weeks worth of vids
Surprise, HG released a new guard archtype on next Siracusa event It's crusher, guard with a big claymore that do big attack to all blocked enemies but slow asdp
...just because the first member of the type wields that sort of weapon doesn't mean they all will, you know. Take one look at the diversity of ironmongery (not to mention Estelle's bare hands) used by Centurions for ex.
@@k_a4685 Centurion branch symbol is a chainsaw; it includes Savage (HAMMER TIME) and Estelle (Fist Puncher). Arts Fighter one is a sword over starburst, includes Mousse and her majik claw thingies. Swordmaster is pair of swords; includes Irene (sword & pistol) and Tachanka (literal muthafucking machine gun). Lord is sword with a sort of bow shock around the tip, includes Frostleaf and her damn halberd. Marksman Sniper is three arrows, several use guns. Artilleryman is grenade shell, Shirayuki's giant shuriken says hi. ...I trust I have made my point?
Hella is hellagood imo, even tho these vampiric guards basically got auto powercrapped by a single birb lady with a scythe, he is still a good unit I use utage and akayuki more tho But the musha archetype is basically duelist guards but with a condition, and they do their job even in later chaps and stronger maps, if the 4* of the class is strong, so is the 6* of it (good lord executor is not a 6*, my argument would have been sent to hell after that)
Musha could use damage reduction on low hp Like the attack speed Lower their hp higher their attackspeed and damage reduction and also higher healing so they atleast dont get one shoted on low hp and this would make em relevant imo or too op idk lol but dr % can be adjusted lol and higher healing would make em heal fast and not die and lose a bit dr every time they heal up again
Still remember when Mlynar came out people kept arguing with me that he totally wasn't SA powercreep and in fact he wasn't even as good because he has less utility. People really sniff too much copium.
Nobody with any real sense said Mlynar wasn't good. Just that he can't be used for all the same situations. Let's be honest, if you want pure damage SA was rarely the best choice these days as it is. You'd normally be better off with summer Ch'en or Surtr unless you really badly need his range. Mlynar is pretty much up there too now in terms of damage, which makes him a great option when Ch'en's range and archetype make her inconvenient.
@@ChaosDraguss , yeah. I guess it takes a while for people to realize how broken some ops truly are. Anyways, mlynar is not actually better sa. He's ground chenalter which is pretty op considering that melee operators will always have better positioning.
@@kiuhh1118 Ground based Ch'otgun is pretty much my same opinion. As I mentioned in another comment, people wouldn't even be making the comparison if their skills didn't look so similar. If Mlynar had something like Carnelian's S3 range with a difference animation he'd be just as broken, but people wouldn't be constantly comparing him to SA.
Mlynar is literally the worst new operator I have seen in a while for Arknights. I have long praised the game to new players and friends that its meta is stable and they prefer to release operators with new skills and utility for different niches, instead of just straight powercreeping the old ones. That silverash and eyja are still among the best of their classes years into the game. And now, this? Literally the same skill, without any originality in terms of visuals, just yellow and higher numbers. At least make a new skill or utility. It is also pointlessly inflationary for the meta, since it just allows more constant SilverAshing when people use both. This means for hard maps the devs would have to up the difficulty so that people can't just win with double silverslash, and that puts a strain on every player.
Them struggling on hard map sounds like a skill issue ngl. Veteran player already need harder challenge & h stage isnt hard enough. Also a launch unit that cant be surpassed by many newer unit is just bad game design ngl. From pure gacha game perspective, there needs a variety of unit for profit & the meta unit unit staying the same just mean the game is becoming stagnant Heck i think last few cc is too easy to reach 18. I honestly want HG to add reward for r30 or at least 25
thank god i don't have to make any more of these.
(HG just released a new guard branch and now my branch video is outdated)
HAve you done anything for the reaper subclass?
so time for a new episode
@@lb-zm8kd there's no reaper 6*....yet
IM FINALLY FREE OH MY GOS
BUT THINK ABOUT THE CONTEEENT
Me when I read a newspaper and everyone around me starts shooting me on sight:
worth noting that mlynar's trait effect means that although he can have his skill up in 22 seconds you have to wait 40 to get max damage. As with tequila, he still hits really hard if you don't wait, but like, technically he can't have the crazy cracked 4k damage in 22 seconds
CRACK COCAINUS?
If only Młynar didn’t pass SA dps at 17sec so that the helidrop aspect could remain a large difference in niche’s.
@Muhammad Agil Ramadhan HRP it hit drones
@Muhammad Agil Ramadhan HRP pretty sure the hoverboard enemies are flying and he hits them in the video so id assume yes
Hoverboards count as flying since melee can't attack them whenever I play IS2, which has ended a few runs.
"you cant search him up because his name has a special character in it"
*laughs in Polish*
Hungarian layout also has ł/Ł for reasons. (Though we don't use that letter )
Lol
yeah, imagine not being polish
"Hopefully the Musha module will save Hellagur"
HG: "Instructions unclear, created new 6* Reaper Guard that directly creeps Hellagur"
we gonna get some ulpianus side story like we got for mlynar and hes gonna deliver another massive crack to what's left of the game's balans
Seeing Mlynar's skills, it makes Tequila like his distant nephew
"Distant nephew" is quite the conceptual oxymoron.
Well... Maybe Mlynar had a fling with the wife of a certain Bolivarian officer during his younger years.
@@axios4702 "Enciodes Silverash refuses to comment on scurrilous rumours regarding his time as a student abroad."
@@broadbandislife funny that i learning figurative now... Lol
YII MY FAVORITE OSU PLAYER
SAME
Can't wait for yii Arknights to miraculously measure medics
Fortunately most of them carry staffs so we can use those to measure them as well
2:16 the second letter in Mlynar's name is pronounced like a w. So in pronunciation, it should be more like "Mwynar".
Millionaire or bust
Crap someone commented this before me, except im fairly sure for a phonetic pronunciation it’s pronounced mwinar
I'm surprised I never made a connection between ł and w
uwu nah?
Moe-nar?
I honestly don't mind Mlynar powercreeping Silverash for burst DPS. Afterall, Mlynar is pretty much in the subclass archetype that is revolved around burst damage - Liberators whose attack literally scales but can't attack outside of their skill duration.
Silverash is more of a Jack-of-all trades and can handle lots of different roles to a certain degree.
In fights where consistent pressure is required or requires helidropping, Silverash has that potential to do burst DPS with his S3, but his main utility is simply his insane flexibility for whatever you need him for (S3 allowing him to hit enemies outside of normal range, Invisibility reveal, Redeployment speed reduction, S2 for actually blocking and stalling).
Mlynar can't offer any of that. Imo, his low DP cost is directly offset by providing no pressure at all to the lane for 20 to 40 seconds due to his trait. He just sucks at redeployment, and losing the ability to be redeployed and become immediately combat-ready effective is a huge downside. Doubly so since he cannot manually deactivate Skill 3 to control his skill timing. However, he excels at simply deleting stuff once he's ready to go.
In most cases, I still see people using Silverash over Mlynar simply due to the ease of use and flexibility that Silverash provides. Not only does retreating Silverash give some DP back for another operator, you also don't waste a deployment slot doing nothing for that same duration. In most cases, this kind of gameplay is more in-line with general playerbase usage.
Mlynar is overkill in most situations, but when you need his damage, he'll definitely be more useful for very difficult encounters by dropping the difficulty via brute force. It's already pretty amazing that Silverash gets compared to the actual burst DPS of the Guard Archetype in general.
Except thats just wrong because mlynar is the most used guard in the CN as of currently and i had seen way more people using mlynar than SA
Not to mention Mlynar is much MUCH easier to use
He doesnt die he doesnt need to be redeployed and he doesnt need any help from anyone to survive or get buffed to actually damage enemies
SA isnt a jack of all trades as thats litterally mlynar
I get that people are attached to SA but saying he is easier to use or used much more than mlynar when thats absolutely not the case is just wrong
@@yuurina5092 SA IS easier to use though. I'm not going blindly into stages with an operator that's unable to ease a lane's pressure immediately after being deployed. Mlynar is easier to use when you know how the stage going to turn out, but going into a stage with limited info? SA is the better option because his kit gives more general benefits than Mlynar's, thus the versatility.
Perhaps the reason CN is using Mlynar more simply because he's the newer operator. Using SA for around 2 years must be boring.
It's not about being attached to SA, it's about carefully analyzing each operator's uses, giving credits where credits due. You compares SA's kit with Mylnar's like "SA damage is lower than Mlynar's, he dies so easily, he can't survive ect..." when that's just an incomplete analysis. Eg, SA damage is good, but Mlynar's much better. Why? Because if his damage is the same or only slightly better than SA, he would die on release because SA's general kit is better with respectable damage. So for a general team comp, SA offers more, but if you know what you're doing, Mlynar is better.
@@EmEm-fm4nn SA is easier to use? In wich way? "İmmediently ease lanes" yeah just a 7 dp difference for double dps hp for half the dp cost and sp cost
Seeing someone say that mlynar isnt good for blind runs and only used in CN because its new is the funniest thing i had seen
Why do people try their bash to hate any broken male operator that gets released? Thorns mountain and now mlynar
I know that its a hard to swallow pill that mlynar power creeps SA but please dont get THAT delusional about it as Mlynar is miles ahead better in blind runs in every context
@@EmEm-fm4nn also mlynars dps is not "slightly better" than SA
Its litterally DOUBLE the dps of silverash with 4k total dmg each hit
Saying this is slightly higher than SA is just insane
And also mlynar can activate its skill 3 times before SA can even redeploy and use his skill
Saying SA is better for blind runs when entire CN disagrees is just wrong please just watch any video about mlynar (especially Yiis ones) to get a context on what you are trying to talk about here
I guess the more accurate term should be that SA got powercrept by Mlynar in terms of power and therefore general usage
I'm not sure if Mlynar can hit aerial units or not (judging from the video and CN usage I'm assuming yes) but when it comes to SA pre-Mlynar, I would guess reasons for usage is abt 90% TSS, 7% invisibility, 2% redeployment strats and 1% his other skills. With Mlynar it's probably 99% S3 and 1% anything else (timing issues aren't as strict in general content anyway) so now there's much less of a reason to use SA over Mlynar if all you're looking for is dmg
Hey I use Hellagur in my roster D:<
Nah I agree though, it's always bothered me that the Mushas technically have no talents (Hellagur gets one, because he's a 6star and gets two talents) because their 'talent' slot got eaten up by something that, these days, would be a 'trait'
Also as a casual passerby, I will say that the modern day Hellagur use in the common roster is to deal with arts enemies, so his HP remains constantly low (he can't dodge arts) but he can keep himself alive through ASPD and S2, meaning consistent high DPS. Guess who's still using him to lane hold in Chapter 10 YAHOOOOO
I just m6'd him, also for chapter 10 lol
Still remember how amazing it was when I'm finally promoting him to E2 and use his S3 for the first time.
This is truly content on the platform of RUclips about the mobile game Arknights made by the content creator Yii Arknights, with said content focusing on the guard class. Truly the content of all time
it's not a super good sign that silverash is getting powercrept, so many operators have been lately, really dreading the days when every starting 6 star has a better alternative
Different niches, Mlynar is pure DMG but Silverdaddy does slightly less + redeploy speed and invis de-cloaking
@@oberon5657 true, but new units are overall really starting to powercreep
schwarz/fartooth -> pozy
hoshiguma (s2) -> penance
phantom -> texas the omorashi
ch'en -> irene
@@Genshinlmpact True enough, it's a difficult balancing act for sure. On one hand they want new units to be appealing, but they're taking lengths to keep the OGs relevent. I Suppose these slight niche variations plus expanding modules (personal customisation preference if all units have 2+) could help perhaps?
Texas and phantom have different niches like Mlynar and SA too. When 1 is crowd control art guard type, when Phantom is more early lane holder vanguard type with summoner. I think taxes will use too block, kill huge enemy while phantom most likely to kill, tank enemy with debuff.
Yeah peoples alway spaming SA can helidrop but mlynar also have a great helidrop potential with his 11 Dp. Even with 23 skill up time ( half his dmg potential), he still a really strong early sweeper. When SA own a really good sp niche, with 10% decrease spawm CD and attack up.
Whole story line of vids are always sucking me in like Mint's ability - just incredible!
I just would like to see Whisperain appear in vast Yii universe and I will legit die if she would become permanent part of those sketches.
I swear Hellagur only need 2 blocks for his module and his back at the game
HG: instruction unclear, release 6* reaper with musha talent
@@ntuduy laughs in la pluma user
Mlynar doesn't exactly replace Silverash; SA has the anti-Invisibility, passively buffs his entire squad just by being there (he... pays for better equipment, because he's rich, I guess??), can schwing all over the place fairly shortly after deployment, & still serves normal blocking duties + can attack (& attack drones, even) without skill up. On top of that, Mlynar loses part of his ATK buff on S3 every time he successfully kills an enemy. And even besides that... SA S3M3 hits an extra enemy & has an extra tile of range on the top+bottom.
I'm not going to say Mlynar is worse or anything -- his burst damage is fucking insane in S3 -- but he requires a lot more playing around him, since... he doesn't do anything without skill active, and even if his S3M3 means he only needs 22 SP, he needs almost double that time to get his full ATK buff: Liberator Guards need 40 seconds offskill for their ATK to fully charge.
Mlynar's insanely good, I'm not going to argue otherwise; but, like, if his damage wasn't that cracked, he would be pretty bad? He NEEDS to do double Truesilver Slash's damage because otherwise he'd be pretty nothing!
some people tend to forget that you can get silverash at very early on into the game
I doubt that you would invest in a guard that doesn’t do basic attacks unless their skills are jacked, and that’s apparently what Młynar is
Polish people when someone pronounces "Młynar" incorrectly: łmao
You can never have enough amiya fumos.
I hope his mod ends up good, though since lords are a strong archetype with a penalty baked into their trait I don’t see their stage 1 mods leaving just the talent boosts. He’s still the only op with a global redeploy cooldown reduction so if that gets a significant, hopefully unconditional buff that’ll thrust him back up.
Imagine SA module making not only the reduced redeployment CD even higher, but also making the ATK buff applies to all operators
Honestly I kinda have mixed feelings on wether or not Mlynar truly powercrept Silverash.
It just feels to me like this might be a situation where, sure, Mlynar may deal more damage, but SA's damage is "good enough", and the other stuff he brings to the table, namely the -10% redeployment time for all operators, might still make him see more high risk CC usage than Mlynar.
Kinda feels to me like SA will still be preferable for most people for easier content because he's simply easier to use overall, and for tougher content like high risk CC as well because his talent is bonkers for CC with all the constant redeployment that usually happens at high risk.We'll see tho.
I've heard from another person that Mlynar has been used more often than SA in CN server.
Not entirely sure for cc content tho.
I personally would pick Mlynar more cuz I need his dmg and skill consistency.
But then again, you can use both anyways, which I also plan to do.
I disagree with SA being powercrept part, the utility he provides is usable anywhere in the game
I'll be waiting for the Dragonball Zyii anime adaptation announcement.
Time to Cope that future Kjerag squad modules come out for Freeze team synergies
Kinda sad SA getting powercrept. Has a special place im my heart for being my very 1st 6 star
Good thing he only get powercreep in term of DPS, his niche still one of a kind at this point.
Hey, he's still one of the best units! and who's to say you can't double schwing schwing?
Honestly, this constant comparison between SA and Mlynar wouldn't even be a thing if their skills didn't look so similar. In actual practice, Mlynar is closer to a ground based summer Ch'en.
Same. People still havent realize that he is on same level as wet chen and surtr because they always compare him with SA. But its okay they will learn soon enough
I still don't believe SA/Mlynar is a problem.
I already only used SA in situations where Mlynar wouldn't work (Heli-drop) anyways so he was dropped from normal service a long time ago.
im pretty sad when HG decided throw away old op and make a better version of it.. kay, I know that they have their own role like mlynar being cleaning service and SA, a delete button that u can put him everywhere(and his talent niche), but still.. its big sad
Except his "niche"....appears almost everywhere. Like Yii said, his talents are so universally helpful that a lot of the time, you'll find yourself slotting him in for the talents alone, with his S3 being just a (BIG) side bonus. GoldenAsh has a lot of aoe damage on a decent cooldown and a long duration, but that's about it. His taunt finds little use (or even detrimental, as mentioned in the video), and the bonus true damage is not impactful. He also takes your deployment slot doing absolutely nothing for 40 seconds, whereas in SilverAsh's case, you can just retreat him and leave the slot for someone else.
I don't think Mlynar's purpose is to powercreep SilverAsh. HG probably just wants people to deviate from the existing DP stacking + helidrop meta (which indirectly nerfs Surtr, SA and some others) by introducing powerful sidegrade operators. Mlynar, Pozyomka have been great examples of this, since they do a lot of damage but don't want to be retreated or redeployed. The upcoming Texas alter is also an absolutely amazing addition to this playstyle, as she, on the other hand, wants to be redeployed as many times as possible, being more DP efficient than Phantom, and so she'll be eating all the spare DP you get from not redeploying Mlynar and Pozyomka.
@@sharksarecool6717 SA is also range guard and his S2 makes him a funny tank. I mean his S3 is better like, 99.99% of the time but hey, it's there
Also, Texas Alter!?
@@daddysempaichan TexAlt was announced for the upcoming anni event on CN a few days ago and has been all over the AK Tubesphere since. I'm actually surprised someone who's on the latter at all (seeing as how you're here on Yii's channel) has managed to miss the news.
@@sharksarecool6717 yeah, i just feel bad.. I know that every op has their own power i can say.. just like guard skadi, she still great tho, and solid with her abyssal hunter team.. would u use her when have ntr, even have a downside in s2, but she give more utility, why not..
or people will says, "just surtr it", huhh surtr doing surtr thing, she cant hit drone, but still.. make me bad and sad at the sametimes😅
@@daddysempaichan On the contrary, I think Mlynar's S3 is better than SA's 70% of the time. The remaining 30% of the time is either when you actually need SA's 2 extra tiles on the side (which isn't common, but I often find his extra tiles extremely useful for clearing trash mobs on other lanes while you're killing a boss/elites on the main lane), or when you're cleaving down invisible mobs.
Also sorry for the Texas alter spoilers lol. I just assumed everyone here is caught up with CN news so I didn't think twice.
...and thus, the Amiyapog Saga comes to a close.
At least until HG release 20 more Guard archetypes.
Just a thought
Since Mlynar costs 8 DP less than Silverash, at default settings that should regenerate at the same speed as 8 SP. Mlynar needs 7 more SP than Silverash (22 > 15), so theoretically Mlynar should be able to get his first skill activation faster than Silverash right? Not to mention the fact that some CCs have DP reduction, meaning that the 8 less DP that Mlynar costs might actually be even more useful.
Someone please correct me if I'm wrong
That's a true, but also a very bad assumption because you generally don't airdrop either unit at the start of battle. Unless you're really SP starved at the end of the stage somehow. You usually use them to clear out bosses/mass spawns near the end of the stage, no?
@@clarencetan7126 hmm probably. Depends on the map ig - gonna see in future cc
You're probably not wrong, and I wouldn't know if you are, but I can still correct you if you want? :P
@@kennar5348 Even on the rare occasions when you'd open a stage with SA, I can't remember any such occasion where I didn't need him to block early enemies until his skill came up.
@@ChaosDraguss hmm yea the only one I can think of off the top of my head is WD-EX-8, which was a SA opening. SA might still be better for that stage tho still idk.
I knew it there's another part the lore wasn't completed the last video
No SA, you're not getting off the banlist just because you're powercrept. You're still too much damage for too little effort. Pick up a few more drawbacks and then we'll talk.
How dare you talk abt hellagur like that
Ur being send to emiyas basement
So old grumpy uncle finally decided to shine, love to have more Nearl family members to the roster
This is so sad. I can't believe they did the OG daddy Silverash like this. They better give him a great module buff.
Not a fan how they pushing for rather visible powercreep with some of these units. Example Scharz - Pozemka. All the summoners - Ling, x - Chalter.
For Mlynar - SA, SA at least has that reveal on invisible enemies which still makes him a great choice when needed. But yeah its kinda sad how blatant the powercreep has become.
will we get a detailed one for pozyomka and schwartz
Well i dunno about you but searching Młynar is pretty easy if you come from real Kazimierz land :P
mlynar can't hit drones right?
I feel like SilverAsh is still pretty good in other gamemodes like IS due to him being much more versitile for certain maps or conditiokns IS throws at you
that's fair, but mlynar is also one of the top 3 guard picks for IS#3 iirc, so...
@@patrickstar8132 That comparison doesnt stick, when you look at the reasons why the Operators are used. SilverAsh has a lot more versatility in his skills than Mylnar.
Mylnar is used for his objectively better damage.
However as a Liberator he will not hold a lane while his skill is off
Meanwhile SilverAsh can use his s2 to hold a line and regenerate, which helps against map conditions with permanent damage.
I wont argue that Mylnar is better at making people go away, but he cannot replace SilverAshs anti Invisibility skill, nor can he double as a pseudo defender with regen.
I am not saying SilverAsh is more popular, nor will I say that Mylnars skill is not better than SilverAshs s3.
All I wanted to say is that SilverAsh for all the powercreep still has a fair niche that Mylnar cannot replace him
@@Metalseadraking , lil bro mlynar is like the most or 2nd most picked guard and sa isn't even top 5 in IS3 💀
@@kiuhh1118 That is not my point. My point is that Mylnar cannot replace SilverAshs niches. I wasnt even refuting that Mylnar is more popular.
I was saying that in IS there are situations where SilverAsh is simply better suited to deal with the situation
@@Metalseadraking , is3 doesn't work like that at all. Again, it's time to face the reality that mlynar is better than sa in 95% of the cases. You know what's good to bring with you if you don't know what the map is? Maybe something thats always consistently good? I really don't get this logic.
just use both silverdad and mlynar, what could go wrong
SA wont be outclassed in general usefulness. I literally remember KyostinV brutally insulting SA for being too OP for 5 minutes straight.
Wym "can't search Młynar up" all you have to do is change your keyboard setting to polish (programmers) and alt+l
Simple
I refuse to listen to Hellagur slander *starts huffing module copium*
Hellagur (and other Musha guards) literally got oscillating DPS bc of the tension between their healing attacks and their increased ASPD at lower HP, what is this garbage lol
it made sense back in the old days they couldn't have damage and survavibility at the same time but with how high enemy damage and armour is these days they cant do ither
Can Mlynar hit drones like Silver Ash?
he can attack aerial enemies on skill yes.
"ł" is pronounced "w" in Polish in most dialects (and only in Polish, for Reasons(tm)), so "Młynar" is "Mwynar".
i mean if you have polish keyboard set in windows you can search for him c:
I hope Amila will return in the future 😢
I got confused thinking there was some kind of buff for having characters a leaders just checked there isn't
i mean considering the fact i got Hellugar from recruitment and the fact i dont have any ops with self sustain, imma build him
Yii's skits needs to be the arknights main OVA or else *gun clicks
Old man schwing schwing mean :(
SA still better than Mlynar in helidrop
2:16 i don"t have such a weakness
nice video btw
just be polish to be able to type ł for młynar, its this shrimple
Is the emote in the thumbnail official? It's so funny.
indeed it is. if im not mistaken, its also on some mylnar themed merch aswell
suddenly musha module reflect projectile
If they apply that for Vulcan too, it'd be perfect
Oh sure La Pluma and Highmore would likely get similar perks, but that's fine
With SA getting down the meta list for good, three things are possible to happen: either he will get a very good(or very bad) module, an outright alter or both as seen by what happened with Skadi guard lol
I think after dominating for 2 years, we are ready to accept it's time to let other ops shine a bit.
SA has a pretty decent niche which is revealing invis with really good damage and that should be it imo.
@@MemoryDestiny he got powercreeped, literally
New ops should be able to be unique and powerful on thier own while Młynar is just SA but better
@@lebanana151 TBF I think the idea might still be that modules create more niches, but who knows. Some modules are just nuts lol. Also this sort of thing just happens in a game this large man xD.
@@narius_jaden215 it was too obvious that mlynar will outpower SA in every way
Also, I think modules are there to kinda FIX operators, and make them more usable rather than niches
For example, ethan's module makes his bind _reliable_ (?) And cutter module makes her charge much faster and so on
Ptilopsis's module was garbage since a bit of range wasn't of any use,altho she is already powerful as an sp battery and super healing, while perfumer's made her more reliable with her passive buff
@@lebanana151 I mean, Mlynar's numbers are better, sure, but honestly I feel like it's just fancy extras that don't really make him more useful? Like, there's definitely times where both SA and Mlynar do the job, but SA's traits, extra range, block, and not needing 40 seconds to reach full attack make him more favourable, and that those situations are just as likely (if not more) than situations where Mlynar's bonkers extra damage is needed.
TLDR: both sweep but whilst Mlynar dumped all his points in damage, SA spared some for utility that might be more useful more often than the extra, often overkill, damage.
I'm just wondering a bit.... What if Musha Guard module is "+1 block when skill is not active" and gave +70 Def. I think that would be really interesting. They become more reliable lane holder while making them take more damage so you can benefit more from their talent.
haha shelter
wow can't believe mlynar works with all kazimierz operators now I can bring gravel just to proc him and nearl knight best day ever Kappa
not actually a joke tho cause I play kazimierz factionknights and mlynar kinda cracked
he makes wildmane viable with him she can actually do damage now
I mean mlynar still cant helidrop compared to sa
Also
Why bother just use both slashes pog
That's not really true. You guys say that he needs his talent but he really doesn't, even if activate his skill right away mlynar dps is still better than sa. not to mention lower dp cost making his deploy faster than sa.
2:20 Just search for "ynar", there's no reason why you could only search for the start of the name. Also, it's pronounced Muynar.
Can't wait for Crushers to (not) be meta somehow when Siege alter is released.
blue woman jumpscare right behind you
Oh you can't spell młynar in English how sad (Ł is a Polish letter btw)cand it's read like English wh in What or Where)
Ngl, pronouncing Mlynar as "melinar" very slightly throws me off; closest way to actually pronounce it is "Moinar" iirc
Does Amiya need three fumos so that she can have one for herself, one for Kal, and one for you?
From CN: once you get da uncle you can play without using your brains. There’s no need to argue, he is that good.
Million are
chapter 10 boss or any other dodge boss in the future greatly favors mylnar/true dps because HG says fuck SA and old ops 😭😭
shame I have no one in the video!
CHEERS!
will be useful if I ever get any of them though.
Good video as always!
God no pls if you're identifying as a fossil when referencing the OG few CC runs then I have to do so as well given those were absolutely the hardest I went in on any AK events since I started the game and I'm too young to call myself a fossil
Jokes on you, I CAN search up Młynar in the wiki.
And here, we only have to press alt together with L to create Ł (treat it like like spoken W in English). ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) You can also look up the pronounciation of "młyn" (mill) and just add the suffix. Thanks for the presentation.
Damn HG loves guards dont they?
Guard is a main dps class for ground unit, they are useful in 99% of the game, so of course HG have to gave them a lot of love. After all dps is love, dps is life in this kind of game.
I thought you stopped uploading, but i think its just that youtube stopped recommending your videos and stopped showing any sign of you uploading like the blue dot in the subsrciber tab etc. But now that i know this ill rewatch the last few weeks worth of vids
i have a crush on yii's mic
Wait, for młynar's skill 3 does his own attacks count for the true damage proc or does it have to be a seperate kazimierz operator?
He is kazimierz him self too so yes he does 15% of his damage in true damage
Surprise, HG released a new guard archtype on next Siracusa event
It's crusher, guard with a big claymore that do big attack to all blocked enemies but slow asdp
...just because the first member of the type wields that sort of weapon doesn't mean they all will, you know. Take one look at the diversity of ironmongery (not to mention Estelle's bare hands) used by Centurions for ex.
you mean has aoe attack and aoe attack range?. not "attack all blocked enemy" right?.
@@AquaFieds attack all blocked i mean
@@broadbandislife the symbol is a thick sword, so i just assume
@@k_a4685 Centurion branch symbol is a chainsaw; it includes Savage (HAMMER TIME) and Estelle (Fist Puncher).
Arts Fighter one is a sword over starburst, includes Mousse and her majik claw thingies.
Swordmaster is pair of swords; includes Irene (sword & pistol) and Tachanka (literal muthafucking machine gun).
Lord is sword with a sort of bow shock around the tip, includes Frostleaf and her damn halberd.
Marksman Sniper is three arrows, several use guns.
Artilleryman is grenade shell, Shirayuki's giant shuriken says hi.
...I trust I have made my point?
Młynar just sounds like the guy who takes care of windmills, but in Polish
Just becouse ł in his name exist
Hey i know nothing about either of these operators but i just wanted to let you know I love the RoR2 music and hope you keep using it.
nooo my fave (ingame in global) male operator no longer meta TvT but that's ok
by 2030 you'll have 10 more branches
still have SA at e0, never used him never will
ł, Ł - here, the special Polanball character :) now you can search for Młynar.
Fumo are just like woman, the more you hook up the better it get
This was nice. But also you gotta change your outro so there’s three fumos
I still use SA's s2 for full guard run. I wonder if this horse can replace that as well.
Hella is hellagood imo, even tho these vampiric guards basically got auto powercrapped by a single birb lady with a scythe, he is still a good unit
I use utage and akayuki more tho
But the musha archetype is basically duelist guards but with a condition, and they do their job even in later chaps and stronger maps, if the 4* of the class is strong, so is the 6* of it (good lord executor is not a 6*, my argument would have been sent to hell after that)
Chills
0:15 sir the name of backsound?
tell me that you're in charge of Arknights anime storywriting
millinar
Musha could use damage reduction on low hp Like the attack speed
Lower their hp higher their attackspeed and damage reduction and also higher healing so they atleast dont get one shoted on low hp and this would make em relevant imo or too op idk lol but dr % can be adjusted lol and higher healing would make em heal fast and not die and lose a bit dr every time they heal up again
Still remember when Mlynar came out people kept arguing with me that he totally wasn't SA powercreep and in fact he wasn't even as good because he has less utility. People really sniff too much copium.
Nobody with any real sense said Mlynar wasn't good. Just that he can't be used for all the same situations. Let's be honest, if you want pure damage SA was rarely the best choice these days as it is. You'd normally be better off with summer Ch'en or Surtr unless you really badly need his range. Mlynar is pretty much up there too now in terms of damage, which makes him a great option when Ch'en's range and archetype make her inconvenient.
@@ChaosDraguss , yeah. I guess it takes a while for people to realize how broken some ops truly are. Anyways, mlynar is not actually better sa. He's ground chenalter which is pretty op considering that melee operators will always have better positioning.
@@kiuhh1118 Ground based Ch'otgun is pretty much my same opinion. As I mentioned in another comment, people wouldn't even be making the comparison if their skills didn't look so similar. If Mlynar had something like Carnelian's S3 range with a difference animation he'd be just as broken, but people wouldn't be constantly comparing him to SA.
5:13 remember he TOO is kaizmeiz (I can never pronounce it) so he does 15% of the damage he does in true damage
Whenever you said Mlynar i heard Millionare.
Mlynar is literally the worst new operator I have seen in a while for Arknights.
I have long praised the game to new players and friends that its meta is stable and they prefer to release operators with new skills and utility for different niches, instead of just straight powercreeping the old ones. That silverash and eyja are still among the best of their classes years into the game.
And now, this? Literally the same skill, without any originality in terms of visuals, just yellow and higher numbers. At least make a new skill or utility. It is also pointlessly inflationary for the meta, since it just allows more constant SilverAshing when people use both. This means for hard maps the devs would have to up the difficulty so that people can't just win with double silverslash, and that puts a strain on every player.
Them struggling on hard map sounds like a skill issue ngl. Veteran player already need harder challenge & h stage isnt hard enough. Also a launch unit that cant be surpassed by many newer unit is just bad game design ngl. From pure gacha game perspective, there needs a variety of unit for profit & the meta unit unit staying the same just mean the game is becoming stagnant
Heck i think last few cc is too easy to reach 18. I honestly want HG to add reward for r30 or at least 25
Ngl WHEN IS SILVERASH ALTER TO CRUSH MYLNAR