Is Ebenholz really that bad? I don't think so. He seems like a pretty alright guy. There are much worse people in Terra. Like Kashchey and whoever designed SSS.
Why do people hate SSS? I've beaten both maps 8/8 with only 5 resets on each run. Literally ran atk speed Goldenglow, Thorns, and Mudrock with support Skalter for passive healing / damage and that was basically all I needed for every map. Occasionally needed atk speed Suzuran for slow.
I basically been pulling minimal and saving for Eben since Ling just cause I think his artwork is cool. And I'm glad his story made me love him more. I don't care if he doesn't do any work he just needs to sit on my team and spin his dice.
Ebenholz is the AK equivalent of making a new air-to-air missile by grabbing a modern rocket motor and a modern warhead while deciding to stick the seeker of an AIM-4 Falcon (which entered service in 1956) onto it
I'm well aware of the issues he has but I am still M9ing him because I utterly adore this guy If it requires a bit more brain power to use him I will simply just be smarter
General rule for 6 stars: If they dont have a kill button that requires zero skill OR brain activation, put them in the dumpster. In conclusion, use balans, use dragon, and nothing else
The main problem with him is that we have no way to filter enemies. If there was a Defender who would only block basic enemies, they’d synergize great with him.
@@pixaphy I use him with Lee. But I have to place him a bit far behind him so that Lee can kill off the weak enemies and then Eben can do his goat bombs. It's not that much of an improvement but I am happy my fave two got some synergy
Wait that's a really good idea for a unit defenders that specialises in blocking elite or basic enemies both would be five stars and they would block four due to they niche they talent would reduce the damage from they respective enemy
I'm relatively new to Arknights, was only pulling because need more operators, and I got this dude on my first pull on his banner. Now, I get a notification for a video telling me he sucks. My funeral will be on December 31st at 4:00AM EST on Balls Island in Afton, New York. You are all invited.
Even the bad operators can be good! If you have literally *no one else*, he's definitely better than nothing! I had to make do with Matoimaru and Perfurmer back in the day, cuz I didn't know Silverash was actually good, even though I got him really early on lol. But yeah, he's definitely useful if you don't have anyone better! I do suggest you level him up a bit until you get someone else!
Hes not broken but definitely still a 6 stars. I got him for bias reason and was surprised he’s a lot better than what people tend to say about him. hes not trash at all, just don’t expect him to do crazy stuff like blue women and red amnesiac woman (well without the proper set up anyway) Also he does pretty well in a sleep cc team (kafka, sora, blemishine, erato)
Eben isn’t bad at all. This dude can easily one-shot elites and bosses with his 3rd skill. He just requires some brain and set-ups to work perfectly. I pulled specifically for him even if I already had Eyja, Ceobe and “balanced” operators like Surtr or Chalter.
Eh, at least he's not on-release Passenger. An operator so bad that it struggled to kill slugs and dogs, operator so bad that it resulted in class upgrade and entire system of character build called modules.
On the bright side, CN loves him. Not for meta reasons, but he was the 10th most popular Operator in their last poll. Which proves that some Operators are at least liked because of things other than gameplay. Big examples would be Skadi being in the top 10 before Skalter was even a thing in previous polls. And Dusk being the 8th most popular despite not being too good.
I actually really love the drawings that are used for the thumbnails for each video. Yii, you've ever thought about showing more of the sketches or drawing process?
well ,some of those are from official stickers though. But indeed I believe this one is self made because HG hadn't released Lingering Echoes stickers yet
@@ahlalkubur HG often only release stickers to CN and not somewhere else(Originium Dust, Invitation to Wines,...). So yeah they have already released the Lingering Echoes stickers(by looking at oyuki_gms past tweets), but you have a point that the one in thumbnail is not by HG.
I wish the devs would add a condition to his s2; if his sp is over half, he stops attacking. I know they can do it since Aurora's talent work similarly = =
I want to add something about ebenholz, his y mod has a growing niche for recent bosses who have invulnerability phases as the extra 30 aspd when holding a charge will make him able to fully store charges quicker, it also allows him to gain his charges back much faster if there is a boss approaching his range; in 7-18 ebenholz will waste charges on sarkas guerrilla that paass him but can get max charges back before patriot enters his range
I wouldn't exactly call it a growing niche. Only one boss, due to how his HP triggers work, has multiple untargetable phases that are just long enough to let him charge back to full but not so long as to waste his skill time like most phase transitions do.
Smol funny knowledge: in cn people call his summons "hypergraphs" because they look like hypergaph's icon. some people say Ebenholz is planting and exploding hypergraphs as revenge for lore reasons
Reminds me of a classic (sadly long since shuttered) humour mag 'round here whose mail-order ads offered things like the "Official Nutcase Certificate" and the "Officially Broke Certificate"... (they also had "Realman T-Shirt", supposedly "shot through with a large-calibre handgun")
As a maleknights player, I think I can be a little more forgiving with him, since my options for burst arts damage are limited. Still gotta work around his kit, but that's what I already do with other ops as well 🤷🏻
Everyone has at least one unit that isn't great but you absolutely love them for story reasons or the like and you're going to build them no matter what. It took over a year before I ran into that myself and (un)fortunately for me it was Eben. I look forward to actually having to use my brain a little bit though.
For me it's Executor but I was a beginner then and i got him on the Rosmontis banner. I really loved his design but when I first bring him to a map, i was hella dissapointed because of his range and atk speed lol. But now almost a 2 year veteran, i use him in every run including every CC 😆😆
Hehehe Every stage i deploy FLAMEBRINGER and... He sucs ((( Too slow charge speed on passive but if use module + deploy Ch'en and any AOE to charge him passive ... That is great man 😅 only is bad - he blocked 1 enemy (((((
How can AK community complain about Surtr/Chalter/Blue Woman but then ALSO COMPLAIN when a new character doesn't rise up to be nearly as OP as them. Eben might be a bit awkward gameplay wise, but he is pretty satisfying to see that big red number. And he's in no way "bad" at his niche just because there are other characters that "do it better" supposedly. I hate people getting so caught up in meta and shit that they throw fun characters under a bus because they don't overperform, yuck
Fr tho. Though I admit that his S2 is a bit underwhelming, considering that leveling at M3 isn't a significant buff, just flat out give a slight percentage buff for his minion bois explode attack. I really want that when it's M3, Ebenholz can summon 2 now instead of 1 without any charges. But despite that, I am having really fun with his S2. Other than that, yes. He is fun to use, especially under right conditions for him to shine. I think I read somewhere before that when he DOES only charge during his S3 and only attack when he fully stacked his charges, He might outdps Surtr especially if the tough enemies have weak art resistances. which honestly, I don't want that. I don't want him to be THAT brain dead. Let our goat boy be more fun with his niches.
@@sherlockoberon_akomi9781 He can outdps the entire game for exactly one second because it's all loaded into that single burst-attack, so I wouldn't really pay it any mind. He won't be a DPS machine like Surtr or Chalter, his kit just isn't made for it, but he has his niche of an instant burst.
Eben underperforms for a 6*. You don't hear complaints about alright but not op 6*s like Dorothy or Gavialter, so your argument is incorrect. Eben is bashed because he just isn't worth the investment in pulls and mats.
I've been watching Yii's videos so long that I can no longer tell if the completely apathetic, dead inside reading of 6:54 is sarcastic, or Yii's actual despair for how HG can only seem to create the extremes of either busted operators, or operators that are gimped so hard people question if they're even worth using in the first place.
not an unfair assessment but i’m surprised you didn’t note ebens slowly growing niche against bosses with untargetable phases which become more and more common as the game goes on.
Inb4 Mystic Casters have a major buff on the level of Chain Casters that makes Ebenholz as busted as Passenger. Even "trait: stores a minimum of one attack before attacking" would instantly fix Ebenholz at least, lmao
@@FelisImpurrator except that would mean they would need to add a new form of upgrade for possibly 100+ chars eventually since Mystic Casters already have 2 Modules
@@sol2296 No. Base trait change to "stores a charge before using it". Chain Casters received a base trait buff ages ago that changed their unupgraded properties. Crusher guards should also get that (something like Damage Reduction or Increased Healing Efficiency as their health gets lower or something to play on their no defense no res thing).
Personally I think Ebenholz is going to get better as Hypergryph seems to be trying out other boss designs that move away from the usual just Surtr-it, or using the Blue women. Chapter 11 robot knight boss feels like he was designed to be counted by Ebenholz.
"(X) operator is meta. If it isnt then we can shift the meta !!" Lol, i was so surprised when the boss can leap out of the map (practically untargetable and invincible) while dishing out multi-target nuke for a while, just in time for eben to stack his charges. It was even funnier because that was very effective at disrupting surtr and short duration burst ops. Sadly, the blue woman with shotgun can work just fine against this gimmick.
The real problem is that other ops can basically do much better with lesser efforts and actually kill mobs in the process. Sure he got huge dmg but that's all he got. Yea he designed as boss killer yes, I get it but other "meta" operators also designed to be boss killer but they did much more than kill a boss. People keep talking about chapter 11 boss but that's the only stage designed for him. HG probably gonna create other "meta" ops that have similar kit but easier to use than actually make him good.
@@shiroxkuro934 Well yeah, it was because HG want to create another "boss killer" to sell, but didnt want to create another surtr... Actually, another broken meta ops got released in CN. "Have you ever felt that the 5s charge of surtr helidrop was too long? Or surtr was too long to redeploy? Dont worry, we got you covered!!" Spoiler for those who didnt already know by now, but CN got a limited alter, a fast redeploy, that deal HUGE AOE arts damage on deploy, then AoE arts dmg/second, with a talent "recast the skill, if this unit kill an enemy". Imagine Eyja S2, with bigger area, higher damage, and instant recast. And then Reed alter, a medic who can deal arts damage better than actual caster (excluding the usual good caster) Eben was bound to be bad because of the class he was in. Slow atk, high dp cost, high sp cost, similar to AoE caster with the addition of only doing single target attack on top of having 0 cc, unlike lower rarity mystic caster. What im saying is, eben IS troublesome and clunky but there will still be a place where he is preferred over the usual option. Simply because the stage design benefit his gimmick (like ethan, BP, and aosta in Invitation to wine; aurora in break the ice, etc) or he is funnier to use.
Ebenholz, don't listen to them. Now, off you go to the Trading Post. Czerny was just having a chat with Iris. Romonstis, please send Whisperrain to the office while you go to the factory, thank you.
I really enjoy using Ebenholz right now, his skills could be better, but mystic casters are pretty strong in general. I mean... Look at those stats shees! Ebenholz has the most attack of any operator in my account and doesn't even have a module yet, he doesn't even have max trust and he is not even e2 lvl 90 like some of my other operators. Mystic casters are huge stat beasts! Then they stack their basic attack meaning that their downtime turns into a huge blast of arts damage for the next poor soul that enters. Very powerful trait indeed. I also prefer their range focussing on more distance unlike normal ST casters which bring the range next to themselves. The problem is that mystic casters can waste charges on some random trashmob and then have nothing left for the boss behind it. Ebenholz partially fixes this issue by having elite specific charges, but it is only 1 which means the issue is not resolved in the slightest. Then we get to Ebenholz itself, his s2 feels like it actively sabotages itself and the mechanic is pretty wonky with how the mines actually get spawned. His s1 skill duration is way too short and tbh the damage is not that impressive either. This essentially means that his s3 is left, a pure boss killer skill, which is clearly very niche by focussing on bosses only. One issue with using Ebenholz from my experience, is that if you want optimal damage you need to activate his skill right before the boss enters his range, otherwise he blows his load without the extra damage which would be a shame. In general a pretty decent operator, but one with some kinks that hopefully get worked out of the next 6* mystic caster if we ever get one.
Tbh he is just okay Not the worst but just okay His niche indeed have A LOT pf people doing that and i would love if HG give him the "stun" utility in his kit so at least he can bring even more to the table But he works pretty well and even more in sleep teams! Not only alongside Iris but with blemi, kafka, etc people forget about the utility that sleep bring to the table and Mystic Casters can use that to their advantages Not everything is bringing blue woman and press kill buttom because thats exactly why people get mad "she is waaaay to broken!!!!! *keep using her*" He works really well and have sinergy with sleep teams and his S2 have good uses too i use him in IS and i will try anniquilations with him since theres places perfect for him to use his s2 HG just hate casters in general and only Eija and GG manage to escape lmao Mystic caster where always a niche and eben is not different
@@SajinRouen As much as I actually love using both S2 and S3, I admit it that he does perform a bit underwhelming, especially upgrading his S2. Leveling at M3 isn't a significant buff, just flat out give a slight percentage buff for his minion bois explode attack. I really want that when it's M3, Ebenholz can summon 2 now instead of 1 without any charges. But yeah I also agree that he is just okay, but despite that, I am having really fun using him.
Mystic casters are my favorite archetype despite their flaws. I got Rosa instead on this banner, so this video makes me feel a bit better about missing (though it also makes me want to eventually get and build him more...), I still have a lot of more generally applicable operators to invest in. Thanks for these breakdowns.
So, basically Ebenholz is this year's Passenger. I guess we needed to restore the Karmic balance of Bad Male 6*s after getting the awesome Gnosis and Lumen, otherwise we would be way over our heads when Taciturn Horse Uncle arrives early next year to replace SilverAsh.
After watching this video, I have come to the conclusion that Ebenholtz is good and I will be using him in every gamemode (which just so happened to be my previous impression of Ebenholtz) Also his S2 makes funny sounds so I like it
Thank you very much Yii arknights for showcasing the power of our german emo boy and saying all those great things about him. I pulled on his banner because I even tho I could invest in upgrading powerfull operators like eya and surtr I am out here using global's scuffed abyssal knights.
In case anyone else is losing their mind at the awakened memory (or just wants to know where it's from), the song at the very end is the Item C track from Alex Kidd in the Enchanted Castle.
Special shoutout to Dokutahs like Arachno and Kamissenger who develop extra braincells just to dab on the haters of their husbands, y'all really do give us simps hope ✌✌
You know... I pulled for him because I did not believe that I wouldn't get him in his own banner after failing the "50:50" countless times in a row. (Like, I've never gotten so many 6* ops in one banner and I was aiming for Hibiscus and only passed through a bunch of 6* before I got her.) And that is why I will now force myself to love him, after I lost a grand total of 160 pulls. (I had 170 pulls saved up, sunk cost fallacy ftw!)
Thanks for the advice, Yii. I guess module 2 would be necessary if I somehow had the parts and he spooks me one day. It's sad because I love Indigo and Iris is cool but they both have their status gimmicks that help them seem different (or Iris can actually use S1 to pretend to be a decent caster). Ebenholz having DPS as his niche was doomed to fail when so many other people can kill big threats too
Say, i was about to E2 mod3 indigo because i saw somewhere her and ethan have one of the best 4star module. Would indigo be a great help in somewhere like SSS? to bind and slow kill multiple enemies?
@@zackyfaisalb9007 Post module for sure, especially with sniper / ASPD stacks. Her bind chance is amazing after module, pre module at M3 it's relatively reliable but, like Ethan even after M3, can still fail too often
Ebenzhold is more a Boss Buster or rather an Elite Killer to me than a Boss killer... The moment he might kill a boss with just one full charged S3 hit is if we include Saria/Haze, Hibisalter a Hexer Supp and the buffers (Salkter, Warfarin, etc.) before the boss gets in Ebenz's range to nuke it.
Man if I wouldn't safe pulls for chalter i would instantly get him. But not because of his kit, the event story and his character just really did it for me.
honestly? ebenholz is perfectly usable, even if he's not necessarily insanely good by any means. he's mediocre, sure... but everyone should raise some operators that aren't s-tier that they personally like! he's definitely nowhere near as bad as, say, kirara or windflit.
Pulls burned: 130. (Double Ebenholz in the final ten pull) Fucks given: 0. "Bad operator" this, "hard to use" that... Big monkey numbers? Big monkey numbers good. I don't give a single shit about DP, I already got bored of Ch'otgun and Surtr outside of braindead solving CC so I don't really bother using them, and I'm maintaining my orca record of never missing an operator again since failing to pull Ashlock. He's fun, he has top tier aesthetics in every conceivable way (looks, voice, FX, everything), and his personality is excellent. As Ebenholz himself would say, screw authority and doing things the "proper" way. Ain't nobody got time for that shit.
One time, Ebonholz's ghost guys all exploded at once and pulled a giant wave of enemies past my defender's block count and instantly lost me the stage 😅
After trying him i must say he is a very interesting operator. Not bad in anyway possible but not as broken as surtr or chalter or ling, he just allright. For me i put him in a "good but people keep telling them trash" category together with pallas and rosa.
You can use his Y Module on stages without any elites or bosses (or none in his lane specifically) to give Ebenholz a permanent +30 ASPD buff. Obviously not going to be useful on content that is actually challenging or meaningful but I thought it was a fun trick. Another trick that I've done with Iris' S1 which should translate to Ebenholz. Wait until the big enemy gets in range and eats up all her charges, pop her S1 such that she's not targeting anything, fill up on charges in 5 seconds, then hit the big enemy with another full charge. I used this specifically on the dossoles holiday where you're in a boat being chased by enemies. I had iris taking out the very tanky enemies in 2 shots, though that sounds better than it is because it was a 5 second attack interval so the equivalent of 3 shots at her normal attack interval. The nice thing is that this skill can be used like this at SL 1 though you'll have longer between recasts of it.
Their module should just prevent them from wasting charges on Non-elite enemies. Like their chargers should inherently be used only on elite enemies and bosses
well that just gets rid of the entire problem and makes them do consistently large single bursts of damage, would be much more boring. i think theyd rather have some other condition to attack enemies rather than limit it to being optimal, like how indigo doesnt attack binded enemies, iris sleeps, and harmonie only attacks blocked ones. it would be good, but less interesting than what they could try with another op in the future (though sucks for ebenholz ig)
@@hihigocat Honestly, the simplest fix I can think of would be this: -Save at least one charge before attacking. -Charges gain an increasing multiplicative value for every one held. -For Ebenholz in particular, charge the special elite only one first. That would make Ebenholz instantly more viable (increasing minimum summons on his S2 by up to two) and making his S3 have full effect for the entire time. The archetype could have more setup/reward overall, with peak burst DPS still requiring mechanics but letting their base mechanics remain not hamstrung. Or something like the "can only attack at x charges" specifically based on the % health of the target or if they're an elite - so on trash they fire constantly, but on elites/bosses they save, maybe conditional so they fire faster the lower the enemy's HP is.
He essentially has the same problem guard Ch'en has, being overspecialized into short high damage bursts. Except he's significantly less flexible, has no extra utility, nor her ability to bypass boss mechanics via untargetability. Still, he's pretty fun to actually use; trying to find ways to let him charge up to let those big boy numbers pop.
I spent all of my orndum pulling for Ebenholz just because I loved the story so much all I got was Mountain and Fiammetta :( had to spend my gold certificates to get Ebenholz
If bosses with invincibility phases ever become commonplace I imagine he’d be seen in at least a slightly brighter light, but currently there’s only really one or two bosses that fit that criteria.
@@scholl5360 the bosses I was referring to were the last steam knight(a still CN only boss who has a 5 second ability he uses every 30% health lost, during which he’s invincible), and the Endspeaker, who just has a lot of phases, and low res assuming you don’t let him eat a founder. One invul phase isn’t really enough, which is why I consider the number of bosses he’s actually good against so low. Oh I guess mephisto 2 has a lot of invulnerability phases… that last like 5 frames each.
I got him for free at the start of an IS2 run and built him. I kinda regret not pulling for him now. The cats are hilarious and the damage is excellent and consistent. He absolutely wrecks waves in IS2, where it's preferred to avoid blocking. It's not a given that an E2-90 M9 6* can be a carry in IS. We've had Pallas and Carnelian in monthly groups, and frankly ... they are not very good. Carnelian has too much downtime to clear waves, and isn't tanky enough to fulfill her stated role. Pallas can't even kill the archer bro on floor 3... she had 1 job.
I liked this event a lot along with its characters. Partially because I’m German and ebens VA is German as well. Even though people say he’s niche, I try to find him a spot in a map where he can use his s2 or s3 to the best of his abilities. Also, Great Video!
His s2 is not bad, it's just way too akward to be reliable. Sometimes i wish it didn't have the pull effect. For exemple, once, an enemy got pulled by all of them at once, and not only it didn't die but it was thrown straight into the blue box, i swear this actually happened.
This happened to me in one of the new IS stages. The skill straight up pulled a super light enemy into the blue box from a sizable distance. It was actually kinda funny watching the whole thing.
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ebenholz is the perfect guy to bump into when you're running to school because you're late, "kyaaa" "excuse me mademoiselle" and then we kiss
nigga
True but wut the hell
ngl, i would marry him
Nani the f*ck😳
it would be more like "Entschuldigen Sie, Miss" and then we make out.
Because ebenholz doesnt speak french aha
I love it when Yii Arknignts uploads. Surely he will have nothing but great things to say about my favorite boss killer 🥰
Insert uncanny faces here
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"How do we tell him?"
Yeah but he is clearly outclassed by SIEGE you know the only 6 star in the game.
@@dragichav2810 Siege really is one of the ops ever exist
Is Ebenholz really that bad? I don't think so. He seems like a pretty alright guy. There are much worse people in Terra. Like Kashchey and whoever designed SSS.
data INSTRUMENT sticks. Ebenholz created SSS. Enough said.
Fk the guy who designed the bosses for SSS in particular.😠
Whoever pitch the idea for SSS needs to sleep with one eye open everyday 💀
Why do people hate SSS? I've beaten both maps 8/8 with only 5 resets on each run. Literally ran atk speed Goldenglow, Thorns, and Mudrock with support Skalter for passive healing / damage and that was basically all I needed for every map. Occasionally needed atk speed Suzuran for slow.
@@ArdentMoogle U run only meta ops
U see now the problem
Don't underestimate us Ebenholz simps we're feral and desperate!
I skipped Irene just for him, do I count as one of you?
And gay
I basically been pulling minimal and saving for Eben since Ling just cause I think his artwork is cool. And I'm glad his story made me love him more. I don't care if he doesn't do any work he just needs to sit on my team and spin his dice.
Oh, absolutely.
Ebenholz is the AK equivalent of making a new air-to-air missile by grabbing a modern rocket motor and a modern warhead while deciding to stick the seeker of an AIM-4 Falcon (which entered service in 1956) onto it
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@@HiImYii Strong attack, trash aim
what did i just read
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The coolest part of Ebenholz is how he floats into the stage out of the smokey shadows with that eerie but cool soundbite.
I'm well aware of the issues he has but I am still M9ing him because I utterly adore this guy
If it requires a bit more brain power to use him I will simply just be smarter
"I will simply be smarter"
(X) DOOBT
@@broadbandislife hey, if I need more than one brain cell to use him, I shall climb up to the destine mountains to obtain that 1 brain cell.
@@tacobanana6538 _One does not simply walk into Mordor..._
@@tacobanana6538 onwards comrade, i am with you on this climb
I just want to build him and watch him spin his dice okay. I got other ops to do the killing anyway.
General rule for 6 stars: If they dont have a kill button that requires zero skill OR brain activation, put them in the dumpster. In conclusion, use balans, use dragon, and nothing else
Use any Blue Creatures
Blue woman too stronk
@@ModTFated Start bringing Mostima to everything? Okay.
@@FelisImpurrator Yes. ZA WARUDO all the enemies
@@FelisImpurrator IF you have her at lvl3 module that isnt quite wrong though
The main problem with him is that we have no way to filter enemies. If there was a Defender who would only block basic enemies, they’d synergize great with him.
What about a pusher or something like Mountain s3? Most elites are heavier than the chaff right?
@@HellecticMojo oddly enough I think there might be some lee synergy here.
@@pixaphy I use him with Lee. But I have to place him a bit far behind him so that Lee can kill off the weak enemies and then Eben can do his goat bombs.
It's not that much of an improvement but I am happy my fave two got some synergy
Wait that's a really good idea for a unit defenders that specialises in blocking elite or basic enemies both would be five stars and they would block four due to they niche they talent would reduce the damage from they respective enemy
It is a wasted opportunity that Czerny's kit wasn't like that.
I'm relatively new to Arknights, was only pulling because need more operators, and I got this dude on my first pull on his banner. Now, I get a notification for a video telling me he sucks. My funeral will be on December 31st at 4:00AM EST on Balls Island in Afton, New York. You are all invited.
Even the bad operators can be good! If you have literally *no one else*, he's definitely better than nothing!
I had to make do with Matoimaru and Perfurmer back in the day, cuz I didn't know Silverash was actually good, even though I got him really early on lol.
But yeah, he's definitely useful if you don't have anyone better! I do suggest you level him up a bit until you get someone else!
Hes not broken but definitely still a 6 stars. I got him for bias reason and was surprised he’s a lot better than what people tend to say about him. hes not trash at all, just don’t expect him to do crazy stuff like blue women and red amnesiac woman (well without the proper set up anyway)
Also he does pretty well in a sleep cc team (kafka, sora, blemishine, erato)
Eben isn’t bad at all. This dude can easily one-shot elites and bosses with his 3rd skill. He just requires some brain and set-ups to work perfectly. I pulled specifically for him even if I already had Eyja, Ceobe and “balanced” operators like Surtr or Chalter.
Eh, at least he's not on-release Passenger. An operator so bad that it struggled to kill slugs and dogs, operator so bad that it resulted in class upgrade and entire system of character build called modules.
His S3 is fun when you want to play around manually Imo. Not the one button delete like any other ops but eh.
Fun fact: eben conducts when he does his basic stacks, in 3/4 time
On the bright side, CN loves him. Not for meta reasons, but he was the 10th most popular Operator in their last poll. Which proves that some Operators are at least liked because of things other than gameplay.
Big examples would be Skadi being in the top 10 before Skalter was even a thing in previous polls. And Dusk being the 8th most popular despite not being too good.
That German accent is irresistible.
I actually really love the drawings that are used for the thumbnails for each video. Yii, you've ever thought about showing more of the sketches or drawing process?
well ,some of those are from official stickers though. But indeed I believe this one is self made because HG hadn't released Lingering Echoes stickers yet
@@ahlalkubur HG often only release stickers to CN and not somewhere else(Originium Dust, Invitation to Wines,...).
So yeah they have already released the Lingering Echoes stickers(by looking at oyuki_gms past tweets), but you have a point that the one in thumbnail is not by HG.
@@R09128 Ah yes, indeed they had released stickers of LE in CN. Had to see it in Weibo first, that site is kinda confusing to access for non-CN
It's really cute and the only reason I clicked the video tbh hahaha
If I ever fail one of my uni classes I'll just blame Ebenholz. Thank you for this wisdom yii.
I wish the devs would add a condition to his s2; if his sp is over half, he stops attacking. I know they can do it since Aurora's talent work similarly = =
I want to add something about ebenholz, his y mod has a growing niche for recent bosses who have invulnerability phases as the extra 30 aspd when holding a charge will make him able to fully store charges quicker, it also allows him to gain his charges back much faster if there is a boss approaching his range; in 7-18 ebenholz will waste charges on sarkas guerrilla that paass him but can get max charges back before patriot enters his range
I wouldn't exactly call it a growing niche. Only one boss, due to how his HP triggers work, has multiple untargetable phases that are just long enough to let him charge back to full but not so long as to waste his skill time like most phase transitions do.
Smol funny knowledge: in cn people call his summons "hypergraphs" because they look like hypergaph's icon. some people say Ebenholz is planting and exploding hypergraphs as revenge for lore reasons
the "im a licensed sociopath" line had me laughing way longer than I had to. Love the vids and content yii keep it up!
Reminds me of a classic (sadly long since shuttered) humour mag 'round here whose mail-order ads offered things like the "Official Nutcase Certificate" and the "Officially Broke Certificate"... (they also had "Realman T-Shirt", supposedly "shot through with a large-calibre handgun")
As a maleknights player, I think I can be a little more forgiving with him, since my options for burst arts damage are limited. Still gotta work around his kit, but that's what I already do with other ops as well 🤷🏻
Everyone has at least one unit that isn't great but you absolutely love them for story reasons or the like and you're going to build them no matter what. It took over a year before I ran into that myself and (un)fortunately for me it was Eben. I look forward to actually having to use my brain a little bit though.
For me it's passenger XD
For me it's Executor but I was a beginner then and i got him on the Rosmontis banner. I really loved his design but when I first bring him to a map, i was hella dissapointed because of his range and atk speed lol. But now almost a 2 year veteran, i use him in every run including every CC 😆😆
For me its eben and passenger
Hehehe
Every stage i deploy FLAMEBRINGER and... He sucs (((
Too slow charge speed on passive but if use module + deploy Ch'en and any AOE to charge him passive ... That is great man 😅 only is bad - he blocked 1 enemy (((((
I am a Kirara defender.
Try Ebenholz! He will get your recognition as you use him in the coming events - When you see enemies that look like a car, use him
How can AK community complain about Surtr/Chalter/Blue Woman but then ALSO COMPLAIN when a new character doesn't rise up to be nearly as OP as them. Eben might be a bit awkward gameplay wise, but he is pretty satisfying to see that big red number. And he's in no way "bad" at his niche just because there are other characters that "do it better" supposedly. I hate people getting so caught up in meta and shit that they throw fun characters under a bus because they don't overperform, yuck
Fr tho. Though I admit that his S2 is a bit underwhelming, considering that leveling at M3 isn't a significant buff, just flat out give a slight percentage buff for his minion bois explode attack. I really want that when it's M3, Ebenholz can summon 2 now instead of 1 without any charges. But despite that, I am having really fun with his S2.
Other than that, yes. He is fun to use, especially under right conditions for him to shine. I think I read somewhere before that when he DOES only charge during his S3 and only attack when he fully stacked his charges, He might outdps Surtr especially if the tough enemies have weak art resistances. which honestly, I don't want that. I don't want him to be THAT brain dead. Let our goat boy be more fun with his niches.
@@sherlockoberon_akomi9781 He can outdps the entire game for exactly one second because it's all loaded into that single burst-attack, so I wouldn't really pay it any mind. He won't be a DPS machine like Surtr or Chalter, his kit just isn't made for it, but he has his niche of an instant burst.
Eben underperforms for a 6*. You don't hear complaints about alright but not op 6*s like Dorothy or Gavialter, so your argument is incorrect. Eben is bashed because he just isn't worth the investment in pulls and mats.
Who is Blue Woman?
@@Souperluka ling
I've been watching Yii's videos so long that I can no longer tell if the completely apathetic, dead inside reading of 6:54 is sarcastic, or Yii's actual despair for how HG can only seem to create the extremes of either busted operators, or operators that are gimped so hard people question if they're even worth using in the first place.
not an unfair assessment but i’m surprised you didn’t note ebens slowly growing niche against bosses with untargetable phases which become more and more common as the game goes on.
Incredible vs Steam Knight.
Inb4 Mystic Casters have a major buff on the level of Chain Casters that makes Ebenholz as busted as Passenger.
Even "trait: stores a minimum of one attack before attacking" would instantly fix Ebenholz at least, lmao
@@FelisImpurrator except that would mean they would need to add a new form of upgrade for possibly 100+ chars eventually since Mystic Casters already have 2 Modules
@@sol2296 No. Base trait change to "stores a charge before using it".
Chain Casters received a base trait buff ages ago that changed their unupgraded properties. Crusher guards should also get that (something like Damage Reduction or Increased Healing Efficiency as their health gets lower or something to play on their no defense no res thing).
"Im a licensed sociopath"
As a person who watches yii's video's,I agree
I'm sure his editor agrees as well after the "kyah" skit
_the voices are getting louder_
Personally I think Ebenholz is going to get better as Hypergryph seems to be trying out other boss designs that move away from the usual just Surtr-it, or using the Blue women. Chapter 11 robot knight boss feels like he was designed to be counted by Ebenholz.
"(X) operator is meta. If it isnt then we can shift the meta !!"
Lol, i was so surprised when the boss can leap out of the map (practically untargetable and invincible) while dishing out multi-target nuke for a while, just in time for eben to stack his charges.
It was even funnier because that was very effective at disrupting surtr and short duration burst ops.
Sadly, the blue woman with shotgun can work just fine against this gimmick.
The real problem is that other ops can basically do much better with lesser efforts and actually kill mobs in the process. Sure he got huge dmg but that's all he got. Yea he designed as boss killer yes, I get it but other "meta" operators also designed to be boss killer but they did much more than kill a boss. People keep talking about chapter 11 boss but that's the only stage designed for him. HG probably gonna create other "meta" ops that have similar kit but easier to use than actually make him good.
@@shiroxkuro934 Well yeah, it was because HG want to create another "boss killer" to sell, but didnt want to create another surtr...
Actually, another broken meta ops got released in CN.
"Have you ever felt that the 5s charge of surtr helidrop was too long? Or surtr was too long to redeploy? Dont worry, we got you covered!!"
Spoiler for those who didnt already know by now, but CN got a limited alter, a fast redeploy, that deal HUGE AOE arts damage on deploy, then AoE arts dmg/second, with a talent "recast the skill, if this unit kill an enemy". Imagine Eyja S2, with bigger area, higher damage, and instant recast. And then Reed alter, a medic who can deal arts damage better than actual caster (excluding the usual good caster)
Eben was bound to be bad because of the class he was in. Slow atk, high dp cost, high sp cost, similar to AoE caster with the addition of only doing single target attack on top of having 0 cc, unlike lower rarity mystic caster.
What im saying is, eben IS troublesome and clunky but there will still be a place where he is preferred over the usual option. Simply because the stage design benefit his gimmick (like ethan, BP, and aosta in Invitation to wine; aurora in break the ice, etc) or he is funnier to use.
Ebenholz, don't listen to them. Now, off you go to the Trading Post. Czerny was just having a chat with Iris. Romonstis, please send Whisperrain to the office while you go to the factory, thank you.
what is the best combo for him in base tho?
@@raffyluvmiharu for me i use Jaye, Archetto and Eben together i don't know If it's efficient or nah 💀
@@executieeee ebenholdz is for the Rosmontis, whisparain and sui pairings, which is basically a boost to general shit, so Karlan Jaye team gets buffed
I really enjoy using Ebenholz right now, his skills could be better, but mystic casters are pretty strong in general.
I mean... Look at those stats shees! Ebenholz has the most attack of any operator in my account and doesn't even have a module yet, he doesn't even have max trust and he is not even e2 lvl 90 like some of my other operators.
Mystic casters are huge stat beasts! Then they stack their basic attack meaning that their downtime turns into a huge blast of arts damage for the next poor soul that enters. Very powerful trait indeed. I also prefer their range focussing on more distance unlike normal ST casters which bring the range next to themselves.
The problem is that mystic casters can waste charges on some random trashmob and then have nothing left for the boss behind it. Ebenholz partially fixes this issue by having elite specific charges, but it is only 1 which means the issue is not resolved in the slightest.
Then we get to Ebenholz itself, his s2 feels like it actively sabotages itself and the mechanic is pretty wonky with how the mines actually get spawned. His s1 skill duration is way too short and tbh the damage is not that impressive either.
This essentially means that his s3 is left, a pure boss killer skill, which is clearly very niche by focussing on bosses only.
One issue with using Ebenholz from my experience, is that if you want optimal damage you need to activate his skill right before the boss enters his range, otherwise he blows his load without the extra damage which would be a shame.
In general a pretty decent operator, but one with some kinks that hopefully get worked out of the next 6* mystic caster if we ever get one.
Tbh he is just okay
Not the worst but just okay
His niche indeed have A LOT pf people doing that and i would love if HG give him the "stun" utility in his kit so at least he can bring even more to the table
But he works pretty well and even more in sleep teams! Not only alongside Iris but with blemi, kafka, etc people forget about the utility that sleep bring to the table and Mystic Casters can use that to their advantages
Not everything is bringing blue woman and press kill buttom because thats exactly why people get mad "she is waaaay to broken!!!!! *keep using her*"
He works really well and have sinergy with sleep teams and his S2 have good uses too i use him in IS and i will try anniquilations with him since theres places perfect for him to use his s2
HG just hate casters in general and only Eija and GG manage to escape lmao
Mystic caster where always a niche and eben is not different
@@SajinRouen As much as I actually love using both S2 and S3, I admit it that he does perform a bit underwhelming, especially upgrading his S2. Leveling at M3 isn't a significant buff, just flat out give a slight percentage buff for his minion bois explode attack. I really want that when it's M3, Ebenholz can summon 2 now instead of 1 without any charges. But yeah I also agree that he is just okay, but despite that, I am having really fun using him.
Mystic casters are my favorite archetype despite their flaws. I got Rosa instead on this banner, so this video makes me feel a bit better about missing (though it also makes me want to eventually get and build him more...), I still have a lot of more generally applicable operators to invest in. Thanks for these breakdowns.
Yo me too. I got Rosa instead in Dissonanzen banner lol
Ebenholz 🤝 Dusk
Being casters while being able to summon
@Mirage_Panzer Ebenholz 🤝 Dusk 🤝 W
@mirage_panzer2274 _Art is an explosion_
"I will never confirm or deny boss killer"
Backpedaling moment
So, basically Ebenholz is this year's Passenger.
I guess we needed to restore the Karmic balance of Bad Male 6*s after getting the awesome Gnosis and Lumen, otherwise we would be way over our heads when Taciturn Horse Uncle arrives early next year to replace SilverAsh.
The main reason for pulling for MidHolz is for husbandKnights
This actually sounds really fun lol
After watching this video, I have come to the conclusion that Ebenholtz is good and I will be using him in every gamemode (which just so happened to be my previous impression of Ebenholtz)
Also his S2 makes funny sounds so I like it
So it's true that Ebenholz are the one who composed the Arknights anime OST
I wasn't going to roll for him. But then the event gut-punched me so hard I felt compelled to just to give him a hug.
counterpoint for s2: it makes a funny honk when the summons activate
I love Eben. Especially the En dub.
I only pulled Eben for his EN ngl
@@potatosummoner6296 Saaaaaaaaaame~
as a german, i love the accent. it made me bust out laughing several times
The only bad part of Yii’s uploads is that it’s when I’m heading to bed. Thanks for the effort you put into these!
I love his skill 2 😢, I find it so enjoyable.
I have an idea for a mystic caster buff. Refund extra charges if the enemy dies
Don't worry Yii. I also pulled for him. But just because i wanted to hear his EN VA. As a german i have to support my Leithanian homies
Thank you very much Yii arknights for showcasing the power of our german emo boy and saying all those great things about him. I pulled on his banner because I even tho I could invest in upgrading powerfull operators like eya and surtr I am out here using global's scuffed abyssal knights.
after that story I think he has a right to be emo haha
@@theSato I 100% agree
In case anyone else is losing their mind at the awakened memory (or just wants to know where it's from), the song at the very end is the Item C track from Alex Kidd in the Enchanted Castle.
Special shoutout to Dokutahs like Arachno and Kamissenger who develop extra braincells just to dab on the haters of their husbands, y'all really do give us simps hope ✌✌
"Necessity is the mother of invention."
Ebenholz is definitely a character that is in the mobilegame named Arknights released on Android and iOS
Truly a caster as well.
truly a chat gpt anon
Truly one of the operator of all time.
@@commandernikke The Caster class is truly made up of Casters!
You know... I pulled for him because I did not believe that I wouldn't get him in his own banner after failing the "50:50" countless times in a row. (Like, I've never gotten so many 6* ops in one banner and I was aiming for Hibiscus and only passed through a bunch of 6* before I got her.)
And that is why I will now force myself to love him, after I lost a grand total of 160 pulls. (I had 170 pulls saved up, sunk cost fallacy ftw!)
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Thanks for the advice, Yii. I guess module 2 would be necessary if I somehow had the parts and he spooks me one day. It's sad because I love Indigo and Iris is cool but they both have their status gimmicks that help them seem different (or Iris can actually use S1 to pretend to be a decent caster). Ebenholz having DPS as his niche was doomed to fail when so many other people can kill big threats too
Say, i was about to E2 mod3 indigo because i saw somewhere her and ethan have one of the best 4star module.
Would indigo be a great help in somewhere like SSS? to bind and slow kill multiple enemies?
@@zackyfaisalb9007 Post module for sure, especially with sniper / ASPD stacks. Her bind chance is amazing after module, pre module at M3 it's relatively reliable but, like Ethan even after M3, can still fail too often
Ebenzhold is more a Boss Buster or rather an Elite Killer to me than a Boss killer... The moment he might kill a boss with just one full charged S3 hit is if we include Saria/Haze, Hibisalter a Hexer Supp and the buffers (Salkter, Warfarin, etc.) before the boss gets in Ebenz's range to nuke it.
Man if I wouldn't safe pulls for chalter i would instantly get him. But not because of his kit, the event story and his character just really did it for me.
honestly? ebenholz is perfectly usable, even if he's not necessarily insanely good by any means. he's mediocre, sure... but everyone should raise some operators that aren't s-tier that they personally like! he's definitely nowhere near as bad as, say, kirara or windflit.
Pulls burned: 130. (Double Ebenholz in the final ten pull)
Fucks given: 0.
"Bad operator" this, "hard to use" that... Big monkey numbers? Big monkey numbers good. I don't give a single shit about DP, I already got bored of Ch'otgun and Surtr outside of braindead solving CC so I don't really bother using them, and I'm maintaining my orca record of never missing an operator again since failing to pull Ashlock. He's fun, he has top tier aesthetics in every conceivable way (looks, voice, FX, everything), and his personality is excellent. As Ebenholz himself would say, screw authority and doing things the "proper" way. Ain't nobody got time for that shit.
One time, Ebonholz's ghost guys all exploded at once and pulled a giant wave of enemies past my defender's block count and instantly lost me the stage 😅
I like how Yii is telling about Eben being trash while our conductor is casually annihilating everyone on the screen 😅
Thank you for making these types of video's Yii. They are entertaining and very informative.
7:46 jokes on you, i don't like using broken operators, so no Surtr and Ch'alter
He's been fun to use so far
I fully plan on using Ebonholz to overkill normal dogs with funny red numbers every day and you can't stop me Yii 😤😤😤
Correction on Ebenholz Y module, it gives bonus Maximum HP 175 and Attack 135 for lvl 3 module
But Yii might not even care because he hates us.
oops
@@HiImYii
"The Lord shall judge you accordingly."
- Archangel Gabriel, _Gabriel Plays Ultrakill_
9:07 Eben's hole got that DJ Toenail type beat 🔥💯
I've spent over 30k on him. He maybe bad... but he looks SO good!
I pulled for him cuz I am a simp and wanted husbando
After trying him i must say he is a very interesting operator. Not bad in anyway possible but not as broken as surtr or chalter or ling, he just allright. For me i put him in a "good but people keep telling them trash" category together with pallas and rosa.
You can use his Y Module on stages without any elites or bosses (or none in his lane specifically) to give Ebenholz a permanent +30 ASPD buff.
Obviously not going to be useful on content that is actually challenging or meaningful but I thought it was a fun trick.
Another trick that I've done with Iris' S1 which should translate to Ebenholz. Wait until the big enemy gets in range and eats up all her charges, pop her S1 such that she's not targeting anything, fill up on charges in 5 seconds, then hit the big enemy with another full charge. I used this specifically on the dossoles holiday where you're in a boat being chased by enemies. I had iris taking out the very tanky enemies in 2 shots, though that sounds better than it is because it was a 5 second attack interval so the equivalent of 3 shots at her normal attack interval. The nice thing is that this skill can be used like this at SL 1 though you'll have longer between recasts of it.
All I needed to hear was “boy that does arts damage” and I was sold
Bonus points for being a rather handsome lad. -also total yaoi fanfic bait with Kreide-
Niche characters like this always bring a unique in game experience so idc I will summon. Got him in my second multi.
I was expecting that WEI WEI WEI WEI tiktok song with dancing W at the end.
I dunno if i should feel glad or betrayed
I'm much interested with that Angelina pic in your PC
At 1:22 I didn't have any idea who the operator is till her skill was activated, damn skins really make a difference
Their module should just prevent them from wasting charges on Non-elite enemies. Like their chargers should inherently be used only on elite enemies and bosses
And yet HG wouldn't do that bc Eben would actually be good. Gotta trash his kit so everyone can save for the overpowered waifus after all.
well that just gets rid of the entire problem and makes them do consistently large single bursts of damage, would be much more boring. i think theyd rather have some other condition to attack enemies rather than limit it to being optimal, like how indigo doesnt attack binded enemies, iris sleeps, and harmonie only attacks blocked ones. it would be good, but less interesting than what they could try with another op in the future (though sucks for ebenholz ig)
@@hihigocat Honestly, the simplest fix I can think of would be this:
-Save at least one charge before attacking.
-Charges gain an increasing multiplicative value for every one held.
-For Ebenholz in particular, charge the special elite only one first.
That would make Ebenholz instantly more viable (increasing minimum summons on his S2 by up to two) and making his S3 have full effect for the entire time. The archetype could have more setup/reward overall, with peak burst DPS still requiring mechanics but letting their base mechanics remain not hamstrung.
Or something like the "can only attack at x charges" specifically based on the % health of the target or if they're an elite - so on trash they fire constantly, but on elites/bosses they save, maybe conditional so they fire faster the lower the enemy's HP is.
That first clip with those drones gave me some ptsd truama shi lmaooo (i couldnt beat it for a while)
Eben still best composer
It’s 5 in the morning but I love midholz arknights he’s very cool
The only thing I got out of this is that Ebenholz can summon ghostly pipebombs that can detonate all at once
I’ll prepare the popcorn and sunglasses
He essentially has the same problem guard Ch'en has, being overspecialized into short high damage bursts. Except he's significantly less flexible, has no extra utility, nor her ability to bypass boss mechanics via untargetability. Still, he's pretty fun to actually use; trying to find ways to let him charge up to let those big boy numbers pop.
"here is Ebenholz"
Ebenholz: *dies*
Ebenholz delta module says hi, maybe it's time to revisit him
1:33 The scream hits hard
short answer: yes
long answer: this entire video
1:34 Can't believe I had to Google the authenticity of "ANGELINA COLLEGE" because of all the Angelia-senpai and Kyaaa post you made
Watching a squid talk about Arknights while Sea Shanty plays in the background is peak content.
Good video. The S2 rant could've been longer tho 👍
Ebenholz could compose music for Cruelty Squad
Literally I only would get him for the fact his skill is called “Sound of Silence” and that song reminds me of Gears of War
I spent all of my orndum pulling for Ebenholz just because I loved the story so much
all I got was Mountain and Fiammetta :(
had to spend my gold certificates to get Ebenholz
"I accidentally two meta units, is this bad?" :p
@@broadbandislife I dont care for meta I wanted my Ebenholz
If bosses with invincibility phases ever become commonplace I imagine he’d be seen in at least a slightly brighter light, but currently there’s only really one or two bosses that fit that criteria.
Most bosses are invincible for like 5 seconds between stage 1 and 2
@@scholl5360 the bosses I was referring to were the last steam knight(a still CN only boss who has a 5 second ability he uses every 30% health lost, during which he’s invincible), and the Endspeaker, who just has a lot of phases, and low res assuming you don’t let him eat a founder. One invul phase isn’t really enough, which is why I consider the number of bosses he’s actually good against so low.
Oh I guess mephisto 2 has a lot of invulnerability phases… that last like 5 frames each.
8:34
Ch 11 boss: oh hello there
When Ebenholz came out on CN we gave him his own tier. Eben tier. Which is taken by Vigil now. Now there's Vigil tier and Ebenholz tier.
dude is the defination of if im wrong the world is at fault.
I got him for free at the start of an IS2 run and built him. I kinda regret not pulling for him now. The cats are hilarious and the damage is excellent and consistent. He absolutely wrecks waves in IS2, where it's preferred to avoid blocking.
It's not a given that an E2-90 M9 6* can be a carry in IS.
We've had Pallas and Carnelian in monthly groups, and frankly ... they are not very good. Carnelian has too much downtime to clear waves, and isn't tanky enough to fulfill her stated role. Pallas can't even kill the archer bro on floor 3... she had 1 job.
Good lord his EN voice is fantastic.
I was kinda hoping for the reveal that he wrote the outro music
Ebenholz being called a boss killer is accurate because every enemy in SN that are not dogs are categorized as elite enemies.
Actually the global range enemies and the dodge enemies arent (the base forms at least)
I honestly think Mystic Casters should automatically only expend as many charges as it takes to kill the enemy they hit.
Port Sarim, such nostalgia
Yii gotta be sleeping good after listening to Siege and Angelina EN voicelines
I liked this event a lot along with its characters. Partially because I’m German and ebens VA is German as well. Even though people say he’s niche, I try to find him a spot in a map where he can use his s2 or s3 to the best of his abilities.
Also, Great Video!
His s2 is not bad, it's just way too akward to be reliable. Sometimes i wish it didn't have the pull effect. For exemple, once, an enemy got pulled by all of them at once, and not only it didn't die but it was thrown straight into the blue box, i swear this actually happened.
Skill issue
@@Lulu_Gaming1025 heh
This happened to me in one of the new IS stages. The skill straight up pulled a super light enemy into the blue box from a sizable distance. It was actually kinda funny watching the whole thing.
I got Ebenholz on my second pull while pulling for Hibiscus alter... no savings wasted and I got an interesting new unit
For me, pink caster is just what i need to cheese everything
i play this game more than 3 year and just realize that elite monster indicator :O