I used Frostleaf for 30 days. She's Awful, but doesn't have to be...
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- Опубликовано: 9 фев 2025
- This is prime time to make bad operator reviews because I can always fall back on Module Copium
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everybody always asks Frostleaf how bad she is
but nobody asks *how* she is
I will do you one better: why is Frostleaf?
When? is Frostleaf?
Constantly in a state of melancholy and wishing for a module or an alt.
Who?
What is Frostleaf?
Imagine she is the reason Lord modules are taking forever
I can't imagine that being the case. The Lord archetype can be weirdly divided into 2 categories. Those with Arts damage and those without. The four stars of the latter can't do DPS to heavy armored enemies while the remaining operator is SilverAsh. That means that the branches can hardly meet for the 6*.
how would you make a module for the branch that has 2 really really good character without turning one of them into a busted unit like Gladia with her module.
@@anzyroadside2374 oh I know it's a joke as I have her E2 lvl 70 hoping she gets a ice niche, consuming all the copium
@@littlelw319 Bagpipe thinks that they don't really care overtuning characters if the branch overall is considered weak.
@@littlelw319 possibly a damage increase on skill activation, it's not like the first time a module stems from IS artifacts
but the thing is........she looks so cool! but breh her kit does her so her dirty.
Besides looking cool, she's a skilled mercenary lore-wise who was able to hold Frostnova back for a bit.
I swear if they buff her with a Chill/Cold Effect, than I feel like she would get much better
@@Zack_Zander Honestly, even if she can, her value still depend on the manner she can inflict cold and how far she interact with said cold. (Aurora can deal insane damage to frozen enemies but unreliable to inflict it herself, Kjera's freeze is random but she is in a good subclass, and gnosis is gnosis)
Also, module lvl 1 will always tie to the class's trait, so skipping straight to mod 2, she can only get ONE fancy upgrade specially tailored to herself. Mod 3 usually only add some numbers.
The best i can think of is "Every attack inflict cold" so at least S2 have a pretty good niche to (almost) permafreeze a single target by herself.
@@zackyfaisalb9007
Less “every attack” and more “every skill attack”.
Meanwhile, Module level 3 could allow her to have a chance to inflict Cold on her normal attacks.
Cool indeed, but thats it.
The real secret is Frostleaf wants to stay bad so she can stay in her room on the landship and listen to music, and dreads the thought of getting an Alter or buff that would make her combat relevant again.
Imagine in season 2 they give her amazing fight scene with frostnova,giving illusion to non players she's strong despite being so bad in game
😔
Me seeing Anime-influenced player using Frostleaf after Season 2 ends : 👈🤣
Lorewise she is plenty strong being an ex soldiers with solid experience behind her, that's why her confrontation with frostnova doesn't end up in a stomp
Except she doesnt even fight woth frostnova mmao
Lorewise, she freaking shuts down FROSNOVA'S ARTS for some time, based on Frostnova's past, I'm sure noone on Reunion (or at least in Yeti scuadron) is capable of doing.
Frotsleafs arts are strong lorewise... AND SHE'S 1 OF THE 2 LORD GUARDS THAT DON'T DO ANY ARTS DAMAGE, W-T-F?!
Frotsleaf carried me hardcore in the early Game because I didn't have many anti-air options and I loved her design so I leveled her first, it's infuriating that she feels so bad to use now when I know that Midnight is basically always a better choice...
Frostleaf e1 to e2 is like going from Lord Guard to "LORD GOD ALMIGHTY THIS OPERATOR SUCK SHIT BALLS"
If HG reworked her talent by being Cold/freeze oriented like Gnosis or Kjera, she'll be one of a good OPs to use~ nevermind how long, just freeze chance % is enough to make her a considerable unit to use, especially Dr. Silvergun~
if her attacks applied cold and freeze when empowered she would be an amazing early game lord even without arts damage, plus she would be a great intro into utilizing statuses
This..
Hg will never do it they will just slap your face with module upgrades with mediocre improvments.
Hey, everyone can hope right?~
@@abyssenjoyer watch them just give dp cost reduction to them all lmfao
Im calling it, the module's gonna be +1.5% increased slow duration
please no, why.... HG'd betray us yet again lol
Actually +6% atk +6% def
Nooooooo 😢
10% dodge 😱
I feel like that’s what it may be for it’s first Module, but god it better not be the third stage.
Frostleaf is great when you need a quaternary Crowd Control op in a restricted niche. (I've been Coping for 3 years)
Vulpoknights...
Imagine when he sees the module lmao
Frostleaf was one of the first operators that I build to E1 60. It did not took me long to realise that she did not have much fireworks. Still, till this day, I like her art design and find her character somewhat interesting. Hope she gets an alter one day.
Judging by announce that they would make Doctors able to use both versions of operator at the same time, Alter one shouldn't be replacement to original mechanics of operator, despite some of Alters having alike kit.
> Extremely CRACKED ships
> Blemishine x W
*OH NO, AN ENGINEER AND A GIRL DEMOMAN IS NEVER A GOOD IDEA*
> Gravel x Platinum
_Who's gonna die first?: The Relationship_
> Astesia x Cuora
You call that Cracked, but *it sounds 100% wholesome*
Lovely Astro-Birb with Amnesiac Tutel together?
*SIGN ME THE FUCC UP*
gravel x platinum isn't crack at all, when they clashed in front of the dokutah and even got their own bg pic for the scene I felt the sparks all the way past the screen 0_0
I think Cuora is like 12 though, Leizi's profile basically explains she got lost one day and Leizi fed her like you would a kid
Smol smol tutel haus
Wait
So Blemi is an Engineer or what?
I don't have her and didn't bother to see her files in net so i don't know
@@bat_in_the_soup yes, blemishine studied to be a originium engineer/blacksmith. the reason she knows how to fight is she took a crash course from whislash because of family stuff
I have E2 Frostleaf and I really hope her module will let her inflict Cold and Freeze status
~ Inhale Hopium ~
With the upcoming Perish in Frost i hope frost get a Freeze Module (Kjerag Gimmick) with Aspd+. HG you know its a chance to Promote the anime by buffing Frostleaf
More Cold and Freeze would be great. Gnosis and Kjera are two of my favorite units
Yeah promote the anime by buffing one of the least remembered characters in the game
@@kyarumomochi5146
You again?
@@tomatomaki Arent you the guy that continously cried about the rap list and shutted completely when they got it? Did you like the list?
Also whats with the "you again"? You really expected me to not reply and stuff bud?
@@kyarumomochi5146
Hell yea, I'm that big baby guy who shouted probably 3 times~
Also, I'm just saying "you again"~ what's the matter? You are here and you appeared in some of Arknights' content, such as "I'm done with Arknights" and "Chong Yue in Reclamation Algorithm", most notably the meme one~
Sorry to make you feel bad tho~ say anything bout me, but again, won't put a fight~
The list kinda good but that's just preference~
You used FrostLeaf for 30 days but I’ve been using her since the start of the game, so happy she got a skin 😭😭😭 waiting patiently for her module now
copium
same bro. waiting her alter next
if frostleaf somehow get module, other lord guards will have to get them too tho
that includes silverash
imagine SA S3M3 having ignore def too or something
YEET
I've also been using It since the very start.
Actually, since "who is real" event, or the walk in the dust, idk which went first.
Still using her tho, giving her a good use. She aint that bad
@@Ghoulastre as someone who just started two days ago but is adamant on using frostleaf, is this "module" thing out yet and is she goated endgame?
I'm hoping they'd do the cool and sensible thing and give updates to operator's skills in the future to incorporate new gimmicks. It would 100% make sense for Frostleaf's skills to actually be able to inflict cold, like its literally in her name cmon Hypergryph--
E2 frostleaf enjoyer here. Though I rarely use her in high end content I have occasionally found her unique range and slowing skills useful from time to time usually in places where ranged tiles are at a premium and I need a budget slow supporter. Nothing major and pretty niche but it is rarely helpful. A good module upgrade could be adding the freezing status to her attacks when skill is active could make for some good synergies with other cold ops. Also anything to get better uptime on S2 would be good
She doesnt need other cold ops, her S2 would be an (almost) permafreeze to a single target for 25 seconds, lol. That is kinda busted for a 4star.
But her S1 will gain nothing and all other cold ops can actually kill or at least deal a lot of damage the frozen enemies themselves so yeah, it should count as a good balance for her.
@@zackyfaisalb9007 dunno don't really use the cold ops just seemed like a cool upgrade since her skills are meant to be cold related in how they work anyway. S2 spamming out freezes might be a bit op but there are other op 4 stars like jay who can out dps some 6 stars not to mention it would be a hell of an investment to get her to that stage. Anyone with a high levelled e2 frostleaf has worked for that and definitely has other options. Dunno what point I'm trying to make with that just my thoughts on it tl:dr it would be cool though
@@chae7684 From what i can see (and read some discussion), gnosis is practically the only source of freeze cc.
Its okay, i understand your sentiment. To keep it short, i also really wanted frostleaf to be good. Its clear HG tried to make her unique, range extension on E2, unique utility (melee slow and bind), and even a free and good skin !!
To bad she was too early, a 4 star, and her experimental kit turns out to be broken(in a bad sense), and all of the fix they can give her are put into thorns instead.
Honestly, i hope they give her "Every attack inflict 4 second cold" ala lappland on her mod2 so at least she can do some CC.
Although her S2 will remain rather bad. 50sp skill with no initial sp for 25s duration of 0 atk boost and unreliable cc...
I liked using Frostleaf in my no block strategy account, but her damage is so bad it hurts just watching.
Here are my suggestions for modules: make her actually use the frost mechanic (and slightly revamp her skill to match that mechanic) OR just make her deal arts damage during her skill hits.
Frostleaf S1 DOES REMOVE the ranged damage penalty, it just isn't mentioned in the ability description and her damage is still so low that its easy to miss. Its fairly easy to test just compare her S1 red "crit" number for a ranged and melee hit on the same kind of enemy and you'll see the damage is the same.
Would love to see this become a series where you explain why bad operators are bad.
I think the biggest problem with Frostleaf is that she has basically no niche. She had one, that is being a ground based slow supporter, but then Ambushers got introduced, who has the same range (except they are placed 1 block further) and are designed for stall. With their modules being 20% slow always; Manticore having 50% slow Mizuki having stun or close to consistent bind and the king of stall, Ethan being cracked; they do basically everything that Frostleaf was unique at.
If her S2 actually boost her attack even for a little, or just change it into ARTS damage like most other Lord guards so, she’ll be a much better unit.
edit: Module idea, change her slow into freeze. Impossible, but still coping.
Her S2 boosting attack doesn't fix any of her problems because it's still a fucking 50 SP cost and 0 starting SP. Sure she gets a small increase in damage when all you use her for is to lock a single enemy down.
Frostleaf alter that specializes in freeze mechanics copium
forstleafs been my daughter for 2 years now I've used her in every stage including CC's, the moment when she got her skin, I cried tears. My daughter's all grown up!
I love Frostleaf. She is my first E2, her E2 art is badass, she is my longest assistant, she hums and its very cute. And lastly, she looks like my oshi vtuber who graduated last year.
And sadly, yes, she is a bad op. :')
Which V-tuber?
@@ReynKing Siu Lee from Nijisanji KR. She and Frostleaf are both foxes.
@@YuriSteiner04 that's a name I haven't heard in a long time
I came from kukkikaze, and you got my subscription on this video.
Okay I know this video is old, but her mod came out on CN and it’s uh
25% chance to inflict cold on a target
Love the editing on these videos, keep it up!
Yea well ... the module didn't do sht
Well, I have find some places that I can actually use Frostleaf, like the hammer dud in the Maria nearl event. Cuz the platforms is already filled with electric coils, so Angelina and glaucus won't work there
seeing all those small animations is eyecandy at its finest which you dont see often anymore. You deserve more subs
I started playing the game due to me falling for her design when global was announced, first character that I even E2'd and used until I got lappland. Didn't know she was this weak until I saw this video lmao. Great video, its interesting to learn how an operator works and what sets them back instead of something simple as 'number smaller so dont use' and how little HG would need to do to make them viable.
I breezed through Act1 as a newcomer with Frostleaf, simply because I didn’t know I had better options and I didn’t care, I loved her design, voice personality, everything.
It broke my heart when I learned she was actually the worst operator in the whole game, but I conceded and swapped her for Arene, and yeah the difference is immediately obvious. I still wish she gets a module or something to make her usable…
She gets 10% Arts Damage and 25% chance to inflict cold, which is perfect for S2.
glad i found you, fantastic humor LMFAO
I think my sense of humor is down bad. I'm just laughing over a wet noddle jpeg with loud music and intensified screen shakes.
you e2'd frostleaf to prove how bad she is
i e2'd frostleaf for the cool art to have as assistant on my main menu
we are not the same
That 55 Defense Gaming at 9:08 was 🔥🔥🔥🔥
In the earlier days of game - and I play from nearly release - I've got NOTHING in the Lords department. No SA, no Lappy. Only Frostleaf. Yeah, there was Midnight too, but he was not always helpful. So I cleared chapters from 2, I guess, to 5 with Frostleaf as my main "ranged guard". By the sheer virtue of that I am forever grateful to her and unironically gave her E2. She's been with me through the Spiderhell. She desevrvs THAT much.
Somehow it feels so stupid now knowing Frostleaf ever try to fight back Frostnova on the story aside being ridiculously useless Lord guard in the game
Very detailed and humorous video! Love the format 👌
the last thing i ever expected from this video truly was a Song of Seikilos remux at the end
I SUBBED!!!! THANK LORD OF ALGORITHM FOR THIS ENCOUNTER! I raised frostleaf WAYYY far back because I like her e2 art and I ALREADY KNEW how shit she is but her e2 art was one of (if not) the best in the early days. There's just something fascinating in listening to your loved one being trashtalked in such details. Because it takes one to know one.
I cracked up the moment you said it sloes your account progression. Your insult and delivery is so on point and I had such a goooooood time throughout the video.
Please, please do abjurer class next, especially Tsukinogi. If you're wondering, yes I have her m6 maxed out. I can confirm, how much of a big failure her design is for this subclass ESPECIALLY on her skill 2 even after the trait change (heal during skill). I would love to see it
Love you yeehaw
I came here after seeing Kukki's vid. Subscribed immediately.
Ah yes Doctah who raise their horse police officer.
7:00 Glaucus sighted, I have subscribed for your exquisite taste. Glaucus is also a funny comparison because she specializes in slowing multiple enemies so while Frostleaf uses an entire skill 2 to trap one guy, Glaucus can bind the whole map with a press of a button.
Back to Frostleaf, I would love to see them implement Chill on her skills though the most important thing is definitely the stat buff. Even conceptually, giving her more Def is dumb because you slow things so they don't reach you. Why would that operator worry about being hit and why one stat only, seriously
"can only dream as being as permanent as the damage Tectone(kektone) does to gatcha communities" cracked me up! was not expecting that, but also true!
Hello doctor. I am russian new player.... And that's video is so fun!!! You make my morning :) Special thanks for the joke about factory in the end.
Frostleaf was one of my fav when the game came out. Hope she'll be able to outshine everyone one day ... *one day* ... At this rate, might as well pray for an Alter version.
Btw love the video and your dedication 👍
And with that, I now know I can finally relate my sense of humor with someone else. You earned a sub!
Cracked editing
9:21 GODDAMNIT
I CAN'T ESCAPE THAT DAMN MELODY
one thing i really hope would be either a 5* alter of frostleaf that inflict chill on attack and fixes her other problems, or make her 4* module do inflict chill on skill up (or on attack)
module : when skill is activated and for the remainder of the skill duration frostleaf deal additional damage based on max/current hp of the enemies she attacked. this effect only apply whenever the bind procs
sheesh this is well produced, you deserve more subs
OAKY DUDE NGL! I SUBS CAUSE I LOVED HOW YOU INTRODUCED HER. WP !
Frostleaf already nerfs herself in two ways: Trait reduces ranged damage by 20% and talent increases attack interval by 0.15. So the best thing we can get out of a module is to just remove these two nerfs and maybe give her +30-50 ATK. What's that? You think this is weak? Well say hello to the module system, where, if the stars align, a shit op will be less shit, and the playerbase will still cry out 'rare module system W.'
"She should have multi-target" "She should switch to arts damage" phrases said by those that forgot that Arene, the other 4* lord guard, exists.
"She should deal some bonus arts damage"- people who think hybrid damage is good.
"She should apply chill/freeze" hurr durr operator has ice-themed attacks, so they must definitely apply freeze debuff. What's next? Shaw should apply 'wet' debuff so Leizi's 'electric arts' deals bonus damage? piss off.
If you actually want Frostleaf to be good then come join us in the "my waifu/husbando is shit so I'm waiting on a cracked limited alter" waiting room, because we're clearly starting to run out of seats...
Great video! Although some of the jokes fell flat for me, it's a great editing style for an operator view. I especially liked operators' medical record information at the start and the credits bit at the end.
1:23 wow Frost leaf is 7 star for that to be able to break fourth wall, and affect slow to the player
tectone jab in less than 3 minutes? instant sub
Personal hopium (that won't happen): module that can freeze with skills up because I want more freeze ops. Other suggestions are fine too.
That tectone line *chefs kiss*
earthspirit next?
From a pure character design standpoint, Frostleaf is basically my favorite operator. She was my very first Elite 2 (yes I know that was a terrible idea) as well as my very first max level. I adore her. She is bestgirl, and I will fight anyone who tries to argue that.
But, as a unit. Yeah she's pretty bad, but on the cusp of greatness and completely overshadowed by her peers because Lord is a cracked fucking class with absolutely zero chill aside from Frostleaf herself who got ALL of it. I really hope a module fixes her without making the other Lords too much more... Themselves... So she falls right back into being overshadowed, or she just gets given an Alter and the actual chill effect, which is honestly what she needs because she should've had that day one but they cannot rework her because of gambling laws or some shit
When I watch about S2 I know that it's really a long charge-up. I has Forstleaf Lv.70 S2M3 too... Know by my experiences with her. Also in lorewise, she is nearly retired due to her infection. (Fun fact, Durnar's lore said about Frostleaf is very powerful in the past... so I don't know if there will be the alter based on that then)
Please HG, give her module Cold/Freeze gimmick. She literally has "Frost" in her name
Also probably synergize with Aurora too
Damm that tectone roast came out of nowhere
love this video1! your editing is amazing
I thought Frostleaf's S1 froze the enemy, which would make her stalling pretty viable. And then I watched this video.
babe wake up, i found new funny arknight youtuber
Your W: BAD
My W: Soloes half of the map
as someone who maxed her early on - mostly anyway - I must say good Sir, when you have too few range slots and only ground ones, her extended range helps pile her on when bullying enemies into submission by drowning them in operators. She helps support the quantity over quality of throwing enough of your minions at the problem until it dies!
Silliness aside though, rooting down slow bosses and big elites is always nice. Hoping her module improves her CC, like she hits an additional enemy while skill is active. :D
How to save Forstleaf: make her deal cold damage
i love your video! a lot of effort and jokes that actually make sense and funny:)
I have to wonder what the lord guard module will be. Theres a chance it will just be "removes damage reduction on ranged attacks", which is the most useless buff ever for most of them, but probably good for one of them, like maybe frostleaf. Or it might be "deals an additional hit of 25% arts damage with melee attacks" which would be obscenely good on anyone who can sit in melee range for more than half a second without dieing.
Or they'll just say "feck it, all ranged attacks hit twice" and suddenly Lappland can solo patriot, thorns can solo every stage in existence, and silverash can solo max risk CCs. Frostleaf, on the other hand, can maybe bind people more concistently, which is borderline irrelevant.
The tectone comment was too real.
thanks Eha (Yee-Haw) for building and testing frostleaf out... im still trying to figure out why you would do this to yourself but a nice !
This is really well-made, hopefully it becomes a series!
man the ending so good, need more of it
The video was really good as well as the editing and memes here take my sub
Back during CC#0, my account was still relatively weak. I did everything I could with my account and I still couldn't beat Risk 18. Lo and behold, the final piece of puzzle was that I needed a ground Op slower, which Frostleaf fits the bill. I had her stand on a safe tile aiming towards the lava tiles, and it worked. If it weren't for Frostleaf, I would've broken my straight Risk 18+ clears.
Give me frozen schwing schwing Frostleaf HG
She would be way better if that slow becomes cold instead. Fits her better lorewise too.
Fantastic vid!! As a professional copium huffer for my favourites (ngl seeing Corroserum in F tier made my heart hurt a lil but it's fine, it's cool sniffs) seeing someone go through the trouble of using a trash op just to have hands on experience with their monumental suck whether it be because of bad kit design, bad matchups, lack of use cases or just being plain outclassed reminds me a lot of when I spent time trying to figure out if Mr Nothing was really as bad as everyone thought he was (he's not, but he's not as universally applicable as Lee or Jaye so to some people yes he is).
Absolutely loved the way you described and chronicled your findings and hey, anyone who puts respect on Ayerscarpe and Arene's names gets an instant sub from me. Stay coping, man ✌🏾
wait no one is talking about how clean the editing is
Wait for her Alter
I know the subject is about Arknights and about Frostleaf specifically, but...
I can't believe I played civ 6 so much that I can recognise Greece's theme music at the end!
That tectone joke got me good
9:22 I see what you did with ebenholz... It's inescapable... Everywhere I go, I hear and now SEE it...
Corroserum gets some meta love in the new Reclamation Algorithm mode where you can build your own stage and then watch it get blown up by spooders or better yet, silence them 4tw.
9:23 ebenholz with the lick 💀💀
Wait Frostleaf gives Factory bonus production on E2?! Now we're TALKIN' BAYBIEEE!! BASE META FTW!!
E1, which is better for most players I suppose
@@AquaticIdealist HELL YEAAAAHH!!
I got her as a temp in IS#2. E2 because 2 guard ticket start and I wanted to try it.
First thing I noticed is she has TERRIBLE damage. Her CC is meager and she just isn't worth using at all imo. I wish Hypergryph changed her to have cold effect on skills (since it's literally what she should do).
great video, i am a day 1 player, the realization that her and chen just copium dps make me dropped AK after playing 1 month.
i played it again after heard about watergun chen, and can enjoy AK again since then.
The quality of this video is amazing
really fun video!
The credits made me subscribed. Deym
That tectone jab was spicy
This entire video: Frostleaf has a lot of wasted potential, there's operators better than her.
Me, who puts Frostleaf in my team whenever I can: What did you say?
I have no real secret to my success other than following our lord and savior Kyostiv's advice in stages and my team almost always has other powerhouses.
Was sent here by Kukkikaze
That intro (and certain edits throughout the video) made me feel AsumSaus vibes, any chance you're a viewer of his?
In any case, crazy good video, I loved it