BBC News (Netherlands Disqualification from Eurovision) - Saturday 11th May 2024 - BBC News
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- Опубликовано: 10 май 2024
- The 12pm TOTH featuring the breaking news of the Netherlands' disqualification from the Grand Final of the Eurovision Song Contest.
A camerawoman harassed him with a camera after was agreed they would not film him. He asked her to stop several times but she didnt so frustrated he moved his arm but she wasnt touched. He has to ho she can stay. World upside down. This happened after the second semi finale
I understand he made a movement to the camera to put it down. So it wasnt even to her. How proud she must feel after her actions. She should have been the one who should be cancelled.
It’s very unwise from the EBU not to tell the exact reason why the Netherlands is disqualified.
Because they know it would just be ridiculous compared to the other elephant in the room
There is no place for violence against women in this world!! Good thing he's out. He beat a woman from his team.
@@songs-80swe don't know the context
@@songs-80sno, he did not
He is suspected of a crime and thus should not be allowed to participate. I would say, end this ESC thing now. It has gone to far with the political circus acts during the last few years. Let the LBTQ... run their own show with circus acts in the future, it's not a music competition anymore so best thing is to end the ESC at this moment.
Türkiye has already punished EBU for not taking part in Eurovision for the last 12 years, due to EBU's unfair decisions. I hope the Netherlands will also punish them for quite some time. #Joostice for Joost 🇹🇷❤️🇳🇱
Turkey is a Muslim country and does not take part because the contest has become increasingly sexualised and promoting trans, nonbinary etc. Their tipping point was Conchita winning.
An incident occurred after last Thursday's performance. Against clearly agreed agreements Joost was filmed when he just came off stage and had to rush to the greenroom. At that moment, Joost repeatedly indicated that he did not want to be filmed," the broadcaster writes. 'That was not heeded. This led to a threatening movement from Joost towards the camera. Joost did not touch the camera woman.'
According to Avrotros, a report was subsequently made, followed by an investigation. AvroTros says it finds the disqualification very heavy and disproportionate.
How confident are you that this is what really took place?
@@petraravn5421 It's the statement of AvroTros, the Dutch broadcast, the ones who were there when it happend.
@@Linda-is6nr Weren't the EBU and their photographers the ones who were there when it happened?
@@petraravn5421 Did the EBU contest what AvroTros said in their official statement?
Politics has already overshaddowed the competition.
Unfortunately true.
They always have
AFTER SONG 4: EVERYONE SING EUROPAPA!!!!! Till the end of the final! Organazation will be quit busy to remove you all!!❤❤
What? To ruin everyone’s song and effort??? We don’t know what happened. Why Joost himself doesn’t say a word if he’s done nothing?!
@@SculptExpress-gv8jp We know what happened. So he asked people after walking off stage to not record him. Well 1 didn't and continued recording him. After that he aggressively told them to stop and threatened them.
@@ignonito6130 One (single) or "them" (plural).
It’s a big shame for the organisation to disqualify Joost Klein 😡😡Iet’s boycot the contest
Joost has not been arrested, there was no violence and the prosecutor is not in any hurry (could take weeks). Nevertheless, the EBU has both convicted and punished Joost. No more Eurovision for me this year, sadly.
No woman should be threatened. Even when u r almighty Joost.
Enough with allowing violence against women. He ruined it for Netherlands
Not only for this year. I" m done with eurovision!
@@mariannewesten3638 same here!
it's ok,bye bye
It would take a rather serious crime in the northern Europe to arrest the guy. Many organizations and companies do act swiftly though, which I generally find unfair. On this case I don't really mind to be honest, since he clearly showed he has no respect towards others, with the stunt in the press conference & didn't give a crap about the extremely clear rule, about political stunts during the competition.
Song was nice though. But Joost himself is really the only reason, why we aren't going to hear it tonight.
I’m in my mid fifties. I’ve watched this since I was a child. Show me ONE year where this show wasn’t about politics
It turned into a rainbow show anyway.. nothing lost there...
Dumb move from the Eurovision organisers
Noo, its a dumb move from Joost Klein
@@1x1e1 You are missing the context
Cornald Maas, the Dutch commentator, said it was a minor thing and the EBU acted disproportionally. I beleive this man. He's been presenting the ESC for many, many years and is known for his integrety and honesty. The fact that the Dutch broadcaster openly attacks the decision of the EBU also speaks volumes to me. This could be the end of the contest. Everybody can claim impropriate behavior now...
No they can't actually. You have to have some proof, that's why there was a lengthy investigation. Stop defending men who threaten ladies.
Okay, he's out. Why didn't the same thing happen to the obscene singer from Greece, who made these disgusting gestures, when the Israeli was speaking???
@@kk-om5zm If I could only tell you. I don't know.
@@kk-om5zmit's probably because the Netherlands had a big chance of winning whilst Israel is fighting a war and a Israeli company is the biggest sponsor of the whole show. Its a massive diplomatic and corrupt shitshow.
Oh so NOW it's ok to not punish individual singers for something that they didn't do or is considered inappropriate behaviour.... Right right!
ESC lost 5M viewers from The Netherlands. A whole new generation was ready to go. Thank you EBU.
Boohoo, Netherlands is insignificant
I will watch to see it fail
bigtime!
As a Dutch i hope we withdraw forever from this o so non political shitshow . Have a great day you all .
So sorry Joost has been disqualified, it was a great song.
I feel so sad for Netherlands and Joost! His disqualification is totally ot of proportion! II was so excited for my country Georgia making to the final but now I do not think I will even enjoy the show at all. This is no longer about singing or talent competition.
I 'm Greek and I was dancing up and down when he sang in the semi final. He was my this year's winner. I 'm so sorry. Joost is the winner in our hearts
how is it political when this clown bullied and abused someone??
@@annabazigou4620 so you clearly are deaf!!
I'm Dutch. I am completely astonished!!! At Dutch media we heard that Joost made a "movement" at a filmer, while we know he doesn't liked to be filmed after his has sung.
The Dutch Television talked the last argument from EBU, why Joost is diskwalified: last thursday he made a movement at someone who filmed him, something he didn't liked that at that moment (i guess because of the dead of his father/the last part of his song). After several times saying "i don't want to be filmed" he made a movement. Because of this movement the filmer accused him/made a complaint at the Eurovision Organisation:
ruclips.net/video/L-ctz68qCEI/видео.htmlsi=TvPqbWck4l7HCrWs
No arrest, no further explanation. Lets NOT vote tonight and F the EBU ... the are crazy.
That's ok we will vote in your place! 🙌🏻💐🎉
@@Side_Eye_Shibe ruzzia is not on the ballot either Igor..
@@464nescio6 FYI i'm no Russian nor Israeli 🤣🤣🤣You feel stupid yet?
This is the last Eurovision songcontest ever
I hope that the audience in Malmö starts singing Europapa tonight right after the fourth song.
The Luxembourg artist is from Israeli descent as well
is Malmo in some arabic country? i'm confused
@@ddgzgfsfgrgregtrjhkhgfkkd21jnwdym they’re in Sweden
What are you doing? What’s Luxembourg got to do with all that? How shameful to call on anyone’s decent😱
@@SculptExpress-gv8jpWell Luxembourg's artists brother is fighting for Israel and that her song: fighter, is dedicated for him.
It was promised that Joost Klein would not be filmed after the performance.
And a Swedish camera woman did that anyway. Joost asked her 3 times not to film him but she kept going.
Joost then made a feint movement but nothing happened, he did not touch her.
For this reason the Netherlands has been disqualified.
Genocide is not a problem, but making a comment to a production employee is a crime. They are quite off track there at the EBU.
the EBU has nothing to do with whats happening in Gaza
@@ddgzgfsfgrgregtrjhkhgfkkd21jn If Israel participates, yes. They bow to Israeli money.
Eden is not commiting genocide.
Joost, allegedly, commited something that leads to disqualification.
Its about their personal accountability.
That said, i will miss his song in the finals, was my favorite
There is no genocide stop making stories
israeli sponsor...says enough.
I hope we will never participate in this event again and that the Netherlands will not give points to night.
I certainly am not going to watch or vote. And I do hope the Netherlands will skip this event from now.
You should give points to Croatia and prevent Israel from winning.
@@tempipassati-ef1hq Can you tell me what he did then?
@@GoranRadic The EBU will make sure Israël will win .
@@GoranRadicwhat you’re doing is disgusting. It’s bad for the artist himself to
Hand him
Over a victory to prevent another country from
Winning. Is that his worth? You’re trying to take advantage of an already bad situation so shut it. If people are dumb enough to vote for Israel that’s fine. It will just be the last Eurovision. And maybe that’s how it should end.
Stand with the Netherlands to NOT WATCH tonight
That's not how world works m8.
world moves on, the majority moves on without a second thought.
in short words. they dont give a fu*k
Yes, you are right, if he has done something really wrong then it is okay to take measures, but the Avro Tros man Conrald Maas has spoken and this is what he said: Joost Klein has been disqualified. Long live the Eurovision Song Contest, so not.' He goes on to say that the incident has nothing to do with Israel. 'And one more thing: the Joost incident has nothing to do with Israel or the Israeli delegation. Incident hardly amounts to anything. More about that later. It is, among other things, 'hell' for connector Joost Klein & his team.' and Conrald is also a man if Joost has said or done something wrong, he honestly admits it. And I don't think the Netherlands will stop at this and take action against EBU, EBU should have come out with their complaint a long time ago. Joost is also peas and love and every person wherever you come from is the same.
Such a shame for Joost. I really would have seen him perform in the finals
Ik geloof hier niets van ,misschien hebben ze wel iemand geld gegeven om Joost zwart te maken ,als je zo,n liedje maakt ga je geen mensen slaan ,hij brengt ze juist bij elkaar
Iets klopt er gewoon niet.
Correct
die mogelijkheid zit erin.
maarja waarheid krijgen is ook bijna onmogelijk.
ik vond eurosongfestival steeds meer slechter worden door politieke doel einden plaats van muziek.
But this hits the nail on coffin.
Idd
Vanavond ::: Geen punten!! van de Nederlandse jury!! Lijkt mij op zijn plaats!!!!!
From the latest statement from AVROTROS,
it seems like Joost was (deliberately) getting provoked
while ESC rules and agreements were being violated
by the involved camera person. No physical violence was applied,
he simply got booted for "a motion towards the (illicitly) running camera".
This sounds insane, he definitely should press charges for harassment,
libel and defamation.
Portugal stands with the Netherlands ❤🔥
obrigado da Holanda ❤
EVERYONE SING EUROPAPA DURING ISRAELS PERFORMANCE!! ”UNITED BY MUSIC”
Maroccanoil didn’t like how Joost reacted to the polish journalist’s question during the press conference!
He wanted to beat a Swedish female journalist ! This has nothing to do with Israel !
@@moonallure508 There’s no official information regarding what he did and for baseless accusation you can get in trouble yourself!
@@moonallure508because she insolted his parents is what I heard.
@@rimayeghiazaryan1718 "baseless accusation" pot calling the kettle black LOL
@@sitdownstandup91 The difference is obvious
BOYCOT CONTEST ITS NOT ABOUT THE MUSIC ANYMORE
It never has been!
As usual, no French media talks about it, just like they don't talk about anything concerning Eurovision. The French media have been boycotting Eurovision for years and this shameful edition proves them right!
Lol!!!! The first few seconds are hilarious 😁
Yep, that guy should be disqualified too, haha!
Another one for the BBC bloopers collection 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
She swatted the hand away😂
11th Of May, the day The ESC (EBU) committed suicide!!
Swedish media has behaved appalling, chasing after him pusshing the microphone up his face and he said nothing. Enough is enough. I feel ashamed of the swedish press at this moment. Its not common for swedish press or delegation to behave like this
and here are the votes of the dutch jury:
the netherlands no votes.
go sit on it.
According to the news this is what happened: Against clearly made agreements, Joost was filmed continiously when he had just gotten off stage and had to rush to the greenroom. At that moment, Joost repeatedly indicated that he did not want to be filmed. This wasn’t respected. This led to a threatening movement from Joost towards the camera. Joost did not touch the camera woman. Afterwards the camera women refused any contact with the Dutch Eurovision team.
completely inimitable decision. They stated Joost cant perform because of the ongoing investigation but the police already reported their findings to the prosecutor. Also the Dutch broadcaster and host already confirmed it was just a minor incident, so it looks like some Karen was just not used to Dutch directness.
"An incident occurred after last Thursday's performance. Against clear agreements, Joost was filmed when he had just gotten off stage and had to rush to the greenroom," the broadcaster writes. "At that moment, Joost repeatedly indicated that he did not want to be filmed. This was not responded to. This led to a threatening movement from Joost towards the camera. Joost did not touch the camera woman." The incident was reported and the police launched an investigation. It was announced on Saturday that Klein will not be allowed to participate in Saturday evening's final. "AvroTros finds the measure very heavy and disproportionate. We stand for good manners, let there be no misunderstanding about that, but in our view an exclusion measure is disproportionate to this incident," said the broadcaster, who said "very disappointed and upset", also for the millions of fans. "What Joost brought to the Netherlands and Europe should not have ended this way."
This is how the Ebu get rid of the competitors in the compition. First favorit Belgium out and now favorit Netherlands. No one should watch it tonight.
And the sad part is that the song from Joost is such a positive uniting "Europe come together" song.
That's why they had to go after him in some way, snub him, his song, the message
Splendid shot. @O:15 summarises the event. Joost Klein repeatedly asked to stop filming his emotional mood at the end of the song. He pushed down the camera of the woman who ignored his request. So who didn't respect?
By now we know what happened and disqualification is disgraceful. There was an agreement that no photos would be made of Joost during rehearsal. A photographer did this nonetheless. Joost made a gesture and that freaked the lady out. The lady also called him bambi, referring to his dead parents. Yeah, that would light me up as well. And for that gesture, Joost is disqualified. What a vile action by ESC. I hope the fans trash the place up. Shouting Europapa and the chorus for 4 hours long. Booing and whistling. I hope the show turns into a fiasco.
Dutch: "Banned!"
Russia: "Banned!"
Israel: Killed 40k people "Umm it's ok friend!"
The penalty seemed very harsh in the context
#Don'tVote
EBU measures with 2 standards😡
This Eurovision has everything.... Politics ...drama.... Jjen no side" Music witches.... Forget Simon Cowell.....and British X factor..... The EUROVISION DOES IT BETTER.....
Free Joost!
@@yuval560 ew
@@yuval560free esc from non-european countries participating. Sorry Israel, you're not Europe
@@yuval560
Who said that it isn't the women who bullied Joost?
@@yuval560 She's not kind.
@@yuval560A woman bullied joost.
I want Eurovision without aggression or violence of any kind.
Many people sing about love and peace but actions speak louder than than words.
People complaining about Eurovision, and acting like their lives are over. Meanwhile the line below the headline in the screenshot, “Russia launches surprise attack on Kharkiv,” you know, real-life sh*t.
I saw that too idiocracy is upon us!!!
Netherlands is a big Ukraine supporter. why get exited about football? Getting wound up about small shit does not mean you ignore the rest. If Ukraine falls we are all in deep trouble.
#FREEJOOST!
Joost asked the camerawoman several times not to film him when he went to the greenroom after his performance. She did not stop filming and he just made a gesture. He did not touch her. ESC should punnish the camerawoman instead of Joost.
And you forgot to mention that there was an agreement that he wouldn't be filmed at that time, she broke that agreement. He asked her several times to stop filming.
I think the gesture the reporter made in the beginning toward the person doing her hair might have been worse than the one Joost Klein allegedly made toward a photographer, for which he was disqualified.
I grew up from basically the start of Eurovision song contest and as a family we all watched it every year.
However for over a decade or so now this 'Song' cometition has become a 'Political Farce' in the voting process.
This 'Political Circus' should now be scrapped completely. Our world is sadly now far too volatile to continue with it...🇬🇧
Joost threatened a female production worker violently. Its confirmed on the news.
It is not political. Just him bullying a female worker.
He ruined it for Netherlands. What a shame
@@yuval560
Then that is his own fault and he has let Netherlands down.
However I stand by all of what I put in my comment. It's about time this 'Politacal Bias' Farce was completely scrapped..it has been complete joke now for far too long!..🇬🇧🇬🇧
@@yuval560 But the incident was minor, according to Conrad Maas, who is the Dutch commentator.
So what happened is that Joost was filmed after his act on Thursday. Was agreed up front that he wouldn’t be filmed, but it happened anyway. He reiterated that he didn’t want to be filmed. What got him disqualified is that he made a threatening gesture but didn’t get physical.
Way out of proportion to DQ the Netherlands
The EBU has to take a serious look at itself.
Politics have been intergrated for many years now. That's why we stopt watching many years ago. Regards from the Netherlands.
Well makes you wonder , the comment on Israel from him then under 12 hours later he gets kicked out! Haha
Maroccanoil is an israeli sponsor, says enough!
Conclusion ..... not guilty yet , but already cancelled....
So far as I get the story, after repeating multiple times that he didn't want to be filmed after the performance (emotional part for him), the camerawoman kept filming him. One says that he made a gesture (threatening) towards the camera, other says he pushed the camera (mobile phone) down. Now he gets disqualified, why doesn't she get fired for harassing and NOT complying to requests from him!? This is BS to the max!
He made a threatening gesture towards a camera woman, who kept filming him after it was agreed he wouldn't be filmed and he asked her repeatedly to stop. This was right after his performance. This is an out of proportion punishment..
politics has overtaken the music contest that claims themselves as "safe for everyone" & "free from politics".
excellent
Why?
@@lauens i mean it ironically
EBU should be more transparent what exactly happened. They just commented that the camerawomans' pov is really different than Joost version. But WHAT is different exactly? There are so many cameras, the camera of that woman should have recorded it clearly. Show us what is on it?? It shouldn 't be so difficult. And it could have been dealt with a lot faster. The Eurovision Songcontest has lost the meaning of uniting.
I'd love it if some countries were brave enough to award 12 points to ........the Netherlands!
Joost asked not to be filmed after his performance because for him it was emotional. The lady kept filming him after he repeatedly asked not too and he pushed or made a move but nothing physically….Camera Karen spoiled everything for him. Sad, because it was a uplifting song sa😢
apparently he didn't even touch her
why??
What is the reason for disqualification??
Didn't you listen
He beat a woman from his team.
For being investigated for allegedly threatening a tv employee, so it hasn’t even been confirmed anything happened which is why the dutch broadcaster thinks the reaction is disproportionate
@@songs-80sno???
@@songs-80saccording to the Swedish police he didn’t. There was no physical violence reported
CROWN THE WITCH! 👑
=] yeap!
😂
The witch is witching and throwing out favourites 🤣🤣
I wonder, the camerawoman actually started with unwanted
intimidation by filming and who then already violated the rules of the EBU and was asked several times to stop filming by the artist.
Was she the one while the EBU had already agreed that no one would be filmed after their performance for privacy reasons. In a later video (backstage) this happened again at Joost Klein by a male cameraman (He Joost why where u not on the stage) and again in the heavily secured hotel where no press is allowed inside by a lady with a camera Swedish reporter (before he gets into the elevator). This did not happen to the other artists because the EBU did not allow it, very strange. (no report was made by the camera woman, so why a police investigation).
Very strange.
Why not simply admit that there is nothing yet to report about the why and continue with other news?
Koliko god ga pljuvali podrska Izraelu je najveca sramota Evrope i dokaz da nema pravde na ovom svetu.mozete koliko hocete ali ne dokle hocete.
I'm getting the word.....
Zero tolerance by EBU my asssssss……..The French singer has made a political statement today during his general repetition. He stopped singing for a while and talked about peace, no wat. Soooooo, where’s the zero tolerance policy now, EBU?
joost must sue that cameralady because he ask a lot of time not to film him because that was the deal after leaving the podium and she had lack on him.. nobody is hit or thought sow this disq is shit
Why the anchor didn't count down? Ahhaah
United by song my a$$
Here hitting the stylist away 😂😂😂 0:11
Why was he disqualified? You never said,
A Swedish photographer was filming him, which he did not want. He set his boundaries multiple times and kept telling her that he did not want to be filmed. After a while he made a ‘threatening gesture’, which was allegedly him pushing the camera downwards, so he did not hit nor touch her. This led to her reporting him.
He was violent to a female ????
They say treaths were made by him then again there are also sayings the person mockef his death parents. I wont judge till i know what happend
No he said something.
@@Linda-is6nr in the netherland we actually had a update. So turns out they had a arangemeny that he would not be filmed after he left the stage untill he was in the green room. The woman keeped filming him while heb told her to stop multiple times. So he made a treatning movement by turning her phone down so she couldnt film him
no, the female was violant to Joost
The EBU could have avoided this by forcing Israel to withdraw. A waring country cannot be 'pinkwashed' like this.
Another gaff by this BBC broadcaster while live on air. She was seen giving the finger to someone a couple of months ago. Well, it,s the BBC..Job security guaranteed 😅😅
#justiceforjoost
Мне безумно жаль,что представителя Нидерландов отсторонили от участия в Евровидении-24.Его выступление было великолепным.Я очень переживаю,что так все случилось.😢😢😢
it will not actually cuz CROATIA is winning and everyones hyped
The EBU have double standard, Israël can participate, Russia not, and now disqualification for Joost, so for the EBU you are guilty until you prove otherwise what a democratic organisation, please boycotte this mascarade
Israël is the biggest sponsor of the eurosongfestival... 🙃
@@Abby-vj2dk i know is all about money, power and politic, what is in full contradiction with what the EBU said about not politic statement, pure hypocrisie,
Hello ! The 7th of October anyone ????
No
Today is the may 11th ... so what@@Balagancia
I think this will go down as the worst Eurovision ever
Joostice for Joost!!!
one of the rumor's says the member sed something about Joost his parents and that's what triggered Joost to be honest if that's true i cant blame his reaction
No woman should be threatened. Even when u r almighty Joost.
Enough with allowing violence against women. He ruined it for Netherlands
@@tempipassati-ef1hq Or you're being ignorant.
Reminds me of Johnny Depp and Amber.....
It's always about politics and money
If there is enough of an incident for the Swedish police to prepare a report for the Swedish prosecutors, something has obviously happened that warrants this. Another example of victim blaming.
Sweden must be an extremely safe country for the authorities to investigate hand gestures.😂
Sing europapa between every act tonight!
I have a hunch that Rubels were involved to frame the song. Say a sour borsjtsj taste.
Why are you wearing green at a time that is to be free of politics?
OMG sounds like the Dutch entry may have committed a serious crime like miss gendering someone 🤔😂
This one my fav song as well as the one from Armenia IN GUTTED #freejoost
Eurovision for fans became euro-pa-pa 🤗
We have to react very come we don't know all the details start choosing anyone if he was a violent or not we're going to find out nothing stay secret that's why we have to be very calm from our opinion what we say
Why was he disqualified? It’s not that I complain (that singer is repulsive expressing his love for the russians) but I’m still curious to know the real reasons.
Why should we hate Russians? Russians are just people with a psychopath leader, like all countries have these days.
A Swedish photographer was filming him, which he did not want. He set his boundaries multiple times and kept telling her that he did not want to be filmed. After a while he made a ‘threatening gesture’, which was allegedly him pushing the camera downwards, so he did not hit nor touch her. This led to her reporting him.
you should get better informed, he is not pro russia and the guys he did the make the song with fled russia and are against the ukraine war