Glad your back! Can you please do a video on Ireland VS Argentina. I thought the way that Ireland defended the maul and disrupted the Argentinian rucks were a new level of working in the gray area of the law.
I dont agree. This bro is disrespecting all the reffs. It's clear since 23' reffs are trying to give us a fast nice spectacle and they really try their best, thats their job. If you psycho analise like this guy you get this result. Reffs cant stop the game every 2m. Everyone complained about the 23' game being to slow and stop start, now people are gonna harass the reffs when they are only doing their what the fans wanted in the first place. The ref was actually really good in this game, we should stop looking for penalties everywhere and just enjoy the spectacle as it is now, fast and entertaining. If there really was an bad call WR has it's own channel with an former reff Nigel Owens who gives us some insight not some utuber who moans about every ruck, if reffs did what this channel is showing us rugby will be done as a spectacle...
@@JohnTerblanche-l1rmaybe if the refs were more consistent, we wouldn’t have to watch these videos. How the hell do you miss a penalty or dangerous tackle in front of your eyes, plus they have TMO. Rugby is a contact sport, if refs ignore the rules, a lot of great players will have to retire early. Imagine not giving a penalty or red or yellow card because the game needs to flow, like what the hell. And btw, if you don’t like his videos, don’t watch them. Some of us enjoy it. Sharp
@@JohnTerblanche-l1r i dont agree with you , theres channels that nitpick teams and players thats fine but when its refs people start getting precious about it. i like his insights and his analysis of refereeing hes not implying refs should stop the game every ruck either. but i do like when shows ref being inconsistent especially at scrum-times and shows there is a bigger problem which is that world rugby adds rules every year but hardly rescinds old rules.
@@JohnTerblanche-l1r I agree that we should welcome a fast paced game, but what counts for one should surely count for the other. The blatant poor officiating that could be seen on the live game is not due to over analysis of gameplay, how many spectators saw the neck roll from the same player happen twice and only a warning issued. If we expect a standard in officiating saying we want a faster game, but welcome more calls from the TMO, then we are headed nowhere and the standard is lost. The officiating was mid at best for this game. your claim at "refs cant stop the game every 2min" holds no weight, when that is exactly what the ref did at the second half, unfortunately england could not capitalize on it, but how many times did the ref stop the game in the second due to poor discipline on the SA side? how long was ENG in the SA 22' because of this? Mid-Poor officiating. There is no standard.
@@JohnTerblanche-l1r Just like we analyze the players we analyze the refs. This will help future refs be better along with the players. Its no dis respect.
As ever, you make some good points, but too often your commentary states something absolutely happens, when the visuals clearly dont show that. Show, dont tell.
Ben earls knock on at the start, I would have played on as it looked to go backwards Dan Cole’s ‘side entry’ in which he never changed his bind and is therefore legal And many of the English blockers who looked to be trying to get out the way e.g van portfleit’s
Great video! I have a few responses as someone who works in this area. 1) The ball went backwards. Not a knock on. 2) Good spot, however it could be that because of the short closing distance, the SA player didn't have time to get in to position before the England player was on him. Maybe. 3) His arms are clearly stretched out attempting to wrap the legs of the player. Just because he failed the tackle doesn't mean it was a no arms tackle. It should be a head injury assessment, not a yellow card. 4) Yep, definitely a neck roll. The second one I'm not so sure, he was binding and fell to the side when he was pushed, and let go. If he pulled the SA player with him then maybe, and maybe his intent was a neck roll - but it didn't happen. 5) Diving in to the ruck, yeah he does seem to be - but it could be a legal attempt to touch the ball down on the line, I'm not sure though I think you're right. 6) Definitely a penalty, nothing SA12 could do about that. This is similar to number 2 in your video. 7) The SA obstruction is more deliberate because as he is running back to get onside he slows down deliberately in front of the catching player to prevent anyone contesting the ball or tackling him when he lands - the England ones are worth looking at but I *think* they don't slow down and aren't directly in front of the receiver - the SA player gets to the ball in most of your clips, as the England player is out of the way. That's the difference, they're not obstructing the tackle once the carrier lands. 8) That's a great spot, both lineouts and scrums have become increasingly slack with people ignoring the laws and refs not enforcing them. Because there are so many set plays, players focus on doing their role instead of following the rules. 9) The England player is not offside because he was onside when he initially bound to the maul and did not release his bind. He has to be onside when he initially binds, he does not have to release if it turns. 10) England 6 did not try to collapse the maul, he was ripped out of it and thrown to the floor. The players who then tripped over him were not bound to the maul and therefore not part of it. The ball is further up the pitch, still in the maul. 11) England 8 did not go off his feet, he was on his feet (although very close to his knees) and his hands were on the tackled player. The SA player comes round the side (also arguably off his feet in a similar position) and picks up the ball. If the SA player stepped over instead of diving round this would have been okay. The reason SA get penalised for going off their feet is that the England counter ruckers actually form a ruck over the ball to contest it, unlike the previous example where SA just dived in round the side without forming a gate. 12) Back to the scrums it's the same thing, SA famously always pull their opponents down - so much so that refs don't even seem to notice it. How are props supposed to stay upright when their opponent is putting all their weight on their shirt, tugging them to the ground? It needs sorting out. 13) The advantage would go away after a certain number of phases, and usually goes as soon as you kick the ball. What makes you say it was a penalty advantage?
@@menlolottering Seriously, my dude? Perhaps you object, but this is a public video of CRITICISM of the refereeing. I don't see it as objectionable to add to that in a constructive way. Jesus.
What's wrong with 12? I'm genuinely asking. Both sides are trying to get the other side to collapse? Are you saying you are not allowed to pull down on your bind?
I'm just an interested rugby viewer (Aussie) and I think you are right on your assessments. Worth noting that on (1) whether the ball is knocked on or not is moot since Kolisis (the tackler) and also Libbock are both very offside having run forward immediately the ball is thrown by George - no waiting for it to clear the 15m line. De Allende and the outside backs held their position. The offside move happened behind the ref so needed the AR's to call it. AR's never call lineout throwers for having their feet on touch and in the field of play. The only excuse is that they have eyes up looking for more impactful stuff and they still miss this sort of thing. It is frustrating when obvious stuff gets missed.
The slomo was for everyone to see what he means and take it in. Some of these were ignorance or bias from the officials. I think you should stop being a poes.
Stop being a dom poes, most of these don't even need to be in slow motion, your kak for brains cant comprehend a live match, so you take offence in slow motion.
The obstruction rule at kicks is a mess. NZ has been absolutely hammered with penalties from this. Not seeing the consistency for other teams either. The foul play for head contact is also an utter mess of a rule. Dipping into the tackle (the fault of the attacking player) is responsible for 80% of these incidents. The strictness around these accidental incidents are sending players who are in correct tackling positions to the sin bin which is making the game generally worse, not better. There needs to be an adjustment to the rule whereby any dipping or ducking into a tackle that provokes head contact should be deemed accidental and thus exempt from any 'foul play' sanctions.
Great video, really informative. I think it would be even better if you read the observations as it’s hard to follow what’s happening if you have to jump between reading the text and following the action.
1:06 in, there is no twist from the white 4 on green 16, green 16 goes to his right when cleared out by white 5. Whether that clean out is legal is another matter, but yet another mistake by the officials.
All your points are legit but the problem about rugby is that is already too officiated. People want to see the game flowing, you can't stop it for all infringments. The Itoje neck roll happened quite far from the try, I read fans complaining about that, for example. If you think Brace had a poor game, I hope you didn't watch Ireland v Fiji (Hollie Davidson)...
What was your opinion on Holly Davidson refereeing of the Ireland vs Fiji match. I thought she seemed to be targeting Fiji and penalizing them unfairly?
I agree on De Allende high tackle and english double banking and Dan Cole binding from the wrong side of the maul. The other are either down to referee feeling either just wrong. Ben Earls clearly knocks it backward, the high tackle on Itoje is not clear (there is no ricochet on the head, maybe it was just shoulder on shoulder) the scrums need to be seen from both sides and Kolisi double receiver is completely fine to me. Also if you compete at the breakdown and than you go off feat is fine, you must not go straight to ground before competing. Ben Earls no arms tackle is a 50-50 as he clearly tries to wrap but fails by a lot. I am neutral and I think the referee did a good job overall :)
So what are you saying, we shouldn’t have rule or we shouldn’t always apply the rule. In you esteemed opinion, when should we or shouldn’t we apply them o’mighty one? If there are 15 yellow cards in the game it shouldn’t be because of the officiating, but because of the decisions made by the players.
@Hard_Thinker Common sense should be used. If it's not malicious the game must be allowed to flow. It is a contact sport. That is why we watch it and play it. If new rules are brought in the players must be given time to get used to the rules. It should not kill the game.
@@FearlessOnFourWheels so the same player can neck roll twice in the same game and get a warning? I reckon you should rethink your version of contact sport, it isn't malicious intent, just to give you a clue.
Love you’re vids please keep them coming, it exposes how poor and inconsistent the referees are today, world rugby is ruining the game we all love, perhaps there is a job for you with them
The standard of referring at the moment is terrible!!! TMO's are not much better, they only see what they want to see. The first clip was obvious during the game but no call from the TMO!!!
When i look at previous boks and URC games where Brace has officiated SA teams, the calls are allways 50/50. He got reprimanded for the Stormers game, they lost because of scrum penalties they didnt receive. There was quite a few times during this game that Brace would lift his arm for a penalty, then lowered his arm again, not blowing his whistle, got me thinking he wasent sure about his calls on field and most of these calls were made against the boks.
its 4 seconds in and you're wrong. A knock on is a loss of control of the ball resulting in the ball travelling forwards and touching another player or the ground. It clearly is a loss of possession backwards and touches the floor
We keep seeing the same thing every week! Problem is no one is holding the officials to account🤷🏻♂️ I can appreciate how the on field referee might miss a few things or make a wrong call in the moment, I get that. What I can’t understand is the TMO interference and totally wrong calls when they have replay and time to review! There’s no excuse for that! Look at the All Blacks last couple of games, TMO calls a neck roll when it clearly wasn’t against France at a crucial time in the match, and this was Marius Jonker a seasoned referee! then fast forward a week and the TMO is begging the referee to give a yellow when the referee has made his decision! Good on him for sticking with his call! TMO needs massive restriction I feel?
I think the kick chase obstructions are really tough to call. You could probably call a penalty every single time, it's more about penalizing the most egregious obstructions imo.
Can you imagine the TMO and Ref did pick up on everthing the game would be in the gutter as if its not worse and worse every day with the little jackles infront of all their TMO screens...
5:09 green 7 does not go straight for the ball, but instead rests his body weight on the ruck, then when the ball comes back, green 7 plays the ball in the ruck with his hands. Clearly foul play.
No truer words have been spoken than this. If people understand we would not get worked up about anything because frankly all of it is cooked, all of it! From rugby to cricket to soccer all of it. You want proof, just look at the many bookmakers and players found guilty of this over the many years of watching and there is your answer. The only difference is that it is more blatant in certain instances than the other but crooked all the same. In short, I agree wholeheartedly with you.
How is a ref or even a tmo supposed to pick all this up, you may as well just accept watching it with the current rules that a bunch of stuff will get missed every game
One thing we are taught as referees is materiality. If there is a slight infringement that does not affect play, we issue a warning and do not assess a PK.
The TMO has access to all the cameras and all the replays they need to make a decision but if they stopped to check every single play every single time, the match would take all day. As such there will always be things that are missed, especially knock ons where the ball goes backwards - they're hard to spot even in slow motion.
Everybody can make a mistake - the trick is too learn from it and improve. Is Andrew Brace getting better after all his mistakes? Probably not - do something World Rugby. Additional coaching may work.
This channel is riddled with inaccuracies 1. When SA6 hit ENG 8, the ball gos backwards 2. ENG 8 Dives at the knee. The Eng8 is statonay as the contact is made and is pushed down due to the force of the contact 3. The differences with clearing with the kicks is that the SA play slows infront of the catcher where as the eng players continue to run past the catcher 4. Dan Cole is not in a offside position, as at point of contact he is at the front of the maul 5. There is a difference between collapsing the maul and not collapsing the maul This channle name should be changed to "cry more because refs cant be perfect"
Your knowledge of rugby boggles the mind! The fact your comment starts with "This channel is riddled with inaccuracies" says mountains. Consider starting your own channel to argue your interpretations. All opinions matter, but to start the comment the way you did is unnecessary. I'll end my comment this way, 4 times World Champions, current Rugby Championship champions, number one in the world, most respected opposition of the All Blacks, their supporters can't be that inaccurate.
@@EliJon378this video criticises both sides, assuming anyone who disagrees with the criticism is an England fan is a bit odd. If this channel is a SA fan channel then it should say so but it seems to be balanced and fair to me (even if I disagree with some of the analysis).
@@elliottsw I'm assuming it's a SA supporter because it only seems to show SA videos, and there's nothing in the rules that says it should say who they support. Yes you're right, it does show both sides, and it is fair and balanced.
I get why you do this in that channels are now monetised and negativity breeds popularity, but they're not helpful. You are criticising decisions which can easily be missed in the speed of the game. Wasn't it Wayne Barnes when he retired said that we either accept the game with referee errors or we meticulously review every decision with the TMO to ensure right decisions. I know which one I'd prefer. I think it would be better to include more positives about the ref, else it just feeds into the awful rhetoric that has crept into the game.
You can't see it because it never happened. It would have been most certainly reviewed being that a try was scored. Every try scored is ticked off by the TMO despite this content provider continually saying the likes of - the TMO didn't even check it.
The 12 was trying to buy a yellow. SA 12 stopped dead in his tracks a meter before contact. The 12 then rams his head up into SA 12, he could have easily lowered his head to stomach level and did a drive with his feet to gain meters instead he reared his head up for nothing. He was having a shite game anyway, they had a overlap once in SA 22, just for him to kick the ball dead. SA12 is a world cup winner, best 12 SA has ever had arguably. just for some shite club lvl player who runs like a bull into his head, Damian has tackled many 12s in similar positions for years. I think the 12 wanted to be removed because he knew he was playing average, he got smashed by KLA, and when they had a chance in 2nd half, he popped the ball to the 13 who got smashed by Kriel, instead of the behind the back to Marcus who is their best player and had a possible overlap...
The game has become WWE. The team that is trailing will always get the benefit of the doubt or no one sees their trangressions, its like a participation medal. this is to ensure cliff-hanger games. Unfortunately its not right and should be investigated. I suspect the officials are under clear instructions, to me this is match fixing and over dramatization of games. We will never see big wins again.
The question that I have, is how many incorrect decisions constitute a good game for the referee and his team. In my opinion none of them are worth feeding - oxygen thieves at the very best.
I will never understand how people could understand the fact that all 46 players on the day will make at least one mistake, however they expect the referee to have a perfect performance. The Autumn Nations series officiating was not the best I'll admit that, but to me the actions of the television match officials in many of the games were worse than the actions of the on field officials. Just an opinion and everyone's opinion sucks.
Do you own a clipboard and pen? Your analysis is easily made after the event. Many calls are correct, but you clearly have no experience of actually playing in or officiating today’s games.
Funny how the losers of the match defend their teams foul play, TSA is doing a good job with these analyses, although it won't change the outcome, the SH will always chew the hind-tit when they play in the NH!
With the amount Malcolm Marx is on the grass opponents side of the ruck constantly not supporting his body weight at all putting his head down there it's not surprising. He knows the rules are bullsheet and regularly puts himself in bad positions then appeals to the ref.
Message to them person who made this post. I am assuming you are South African?. I am South African as well and if you are South African I'm a little bit embarrassed for you. I only watch 43 seconds into this and had to turn it off. That first knock on you point to the ball is clearly knocked back in the tackle.... You even have it in slow motion. How did you not pick that up?... The next two incidents you raised were just ridiculous so I switched this off
Youve got a few a those wrong im afraid. Some well spotted, but some wrong. But we have to accept that not everything will be seen and hope that things will be evenly missed and evenly penalised, otherwise we will ruin the game nitpicking.
The thing is wr ruin rugby,doesnt matter what its imposible to ref and to be consistent snymore,the cards sucks like u said "the carrier changed angle but "in nowerdays",supposed to be yellow"""...which they will fire entire wr board fit new ones and ban the csrd system...or 12,13,14 players vs 15 its more dangerious and no benefit for smaller teams also killing rugby...
I appreciate it that you only post games that depict HORRENDOUS officiating This must have been the most frustrating game to watch in terms of officiating and World Rugby need me to invest more into training its refs better instead of pushing out more dumb rules
There WAS head contact but the SA player was such a sweetie and such a gorgeous gentleman he deserved a pat on the bum and some free movie tickets not a penalty.
If the game gets analysed like this in slo mo play by play ball touch by ball touch, games will be 3 hours long, might as well turn it into Grid-iron with adverts during every review. You cannot expect a human ref to see every single infringement on field in real time, while you have the luxury of unlimited replays from 3+ angles. Get real mate.
Man you are making some strange unhealthy excuses for head contact! And Cheslin grabs the guys arm in the air, that was tackling in the air not shepherding and should have been a yellow!
Very first thing in your video, you have Kolisi tackling Earls and complain about Earl's knocking on. How about you check if Kolisi was onside? He should have been back 10m until the ball goes over the 15m line. Of course he ran forward as soon as George threw it, and Libbock was also very obviously offside. The AR's should have called it because that happens behind the back of the ref.
Why aren’t Springboks playing Ireland and or France????😳🤷🏼♂️😂 Someone is looking after them lol not only the referees the World Rugby guy must be South African lol
Please stop using the subtitles. If you cant talk use a IA voice or something. Love the great analysis but you cant read and watch the play at the same time. Its hard to see what you trying to show. Just some positive suggestions....thanks
It really isn't that difficult as you make it sound buddy lol If it's that hard for you how about pausing the video to read it then continue to watch, you low IQ individual😂
You should do a video of a full game showing how many times SA players try to jackel the ball (successful or not) while not supporting body weight. I think you could do a highlights package on a certain number 16 alone and the number of times he doesn’t support his weight 😂
Dirty Cheslin Kolby off side at the kick, then goes on to take out the player in the air. Has a history of dirty play like that. Cant believe this was missed. The player fell very heavily due to this blatant foul play.
When you're on the loosing side you gotta be defensive even when the officials did they're best to help you out, but now you're scrapping the bottom of the barrel 😂 offside, can see your point but dirty play? you're smoking cheap kak😂 it was a fair contest in the air, eng player cut him off as well as he had to go around the guy and then jump. Another example of the officials trying to not keep consistent where it benefits you 🤫🤏
Every experienced rugby player can RE-referee a match with the aid of multiple angles, slow motion replays & all the rest & pin point numerous differences in the reading of decisions, fxxxxxg snore-bore! Such tedious antics are guaranteed to destroy our great game. On balance such drawn out small minded dragging over the coals of a match evidences roughly equal good fortune for both sides. Just play on gentlemen, this is rugby that we enjoy playing hard & fast without academic forensics of refereeing after the fact. Suggest people stop their bleating & whinging referee analytics.
Well he probbably did do that😂, but no, just been very busy with work so it's hard to upload regularly. Trying to catch up on uploads now at the end of the year.
@tasanalytics ohh I see I see, I swear everytime after each game that played since July, I kept saying, "TAS is going to have a field trip with this games analysis"😂😂😂 I'm starting to watch rugby games on a deeper level now
This video should be called anti England video to make us feel good and attack the referee...Also considering you made a video about bad refereeing, you then fcku it up by totaly getting it wrong in one more than a few instances . Seriously you should referee a international game so everyone can critique you.
Glad your back! Can you please do a video on Ireland VS Argentina. I thought the way that Ireland defended the maul and disrupted the Argentinian rucks were a new level of working in the gray area of the law.
Bro, we’ve missed you😭🤚🏽, please let the videos come through. Excited to have you back🤝🏽
I dont agree. This bro is disrespecting all the reffs. It's clear since 23' reffs are trying to give us a fast nice spectacle and they really try their best, thats their job. If you psycho analise like this guy you get this result. Reffs cant stop the game every 2m. Everyone complained about the 23' game being to slow and stop start, now people are gonna harass the reffs when they are only doing their what the fans wanted in the first place. The ref was actually really good in this game, we should stop looking for penalties everywhere and just enjoy the spectacle as it is now, fast and entertaining. If there really was an bad call WR has it's own channel with an former reff Nigel Owens who gives us some insight not some utuber who moans about every ruck, if reffs did what this channel is showing us rugby will be done as a spectacle...
@@JohnTerblanche-l1rmaybe if the refs were more consistent, we wouldn’t have to watch these videos. How the hell do you miss a penalty or dangerous tackle in front of your eyes, plus they have TMO. Rugby is a contact sport, if refs ignore the rules, a lot of great players will have to retire early. Imagine not giving a penalty or red or yellow card because the game needs to flow, like what the hell. And btw, if you don’t like his videos, don’t watch them. Some of us enjoy it. Sharp
@@JohnTerblanche-l1r i dont agree with you , theres channels that nitpick teams and players thats fine but when its refs people start getting precious about it. i like his insights and his analysis of refereeing hes not implying refs should stop the game every ruck either. but i do like when shows ref being inconsistent especially at scrum-times and shows there is a bigger problem which is that world rugby adds rules every year but hardly rescinds old rules.
@@JohnTerblanche-l1r I agree that we should welcome a fast paced game, but what counts for one should surely count for the other. The blatant poor officiating that could be seen on the live game is not due to over analysis of gameplay, how many spectators saw the neck roll from the same player happen twice and only a warning issued. If we expect a standard in officiating saying we want a faster game, but welcome more calls from the TMO, then we are headed nowhere and the standard is lost. The officiating was mid at best for this game. your claim at "refs cant stop the game every 2min" holds no weight, when that is exactly what the ref did at the second half, unfortunately england could not capitalize on it, but how many times did the ref stop the game in the second due to poor discipline on the SA side? how long was ENG in the SA 22' because of this? Mid-Poor officiating. There is no standard.
@@JohnTerblanche-l1r Just like we analyze the players we analyze the refs. This will help future refs be better along with the players. Its no dis respect.
As ever, you make some good points, but too often your commentary states something absolutely happens, when the visuals clearly dont show that.
Show, dont tell.
example time stamp?
Ben earls knock on at the start, I would have played on as it looked to go backwards
Dan Cole’s ‘side entry’ in which he never changed his bind and is therefore legal
And many of the English blockers who looked to be trying to get out the way e.g van portfleit’s
Great video! I have a few responses as someone who works in this area. 1) The ball went backwards. Not a knock on. 2) Good spot, however it could be that because of the short closing distance, the SA player didn't have time to get in to position before the England player was on him. Maybe. 3) His arms are clearly stretched out attempting to wrap the legs of the player. Just because he failed the tackle doesn't mean it was a no arms tackle. It should be a head injury assessment, not a yellow card. 4) Yep, definitely a neck roll. The second one I'm not so sure, he was binding and fell to the side when he was pushed, and let go. If he pulled the SA player with him then maybe, and maybe his intent was a neck roll - but it didn't happen. 5) Diving in to the ruck, yeah he does seem to be - but it could be a legal attempt to touch the ball down on the line, I'm not sure though I think you're right. 6) Definitely a penalty, nothing SA12 could do about that. This is similar to number 2 in your video. 7) The SA obstruction is more deliberate because as he is running back to get onside he slows down deliberately in front of the catching player to prevent anyone contesting the ball or tackling him when he lands - the England ones are worth looking at but I *think* they don't slow down and aren't directly in front of the receiver - the SA player gets to the ball in most of your clips, as the England player is out of the way. That's the difference, they're not obstructing the tackle once the carrier lands. 8) That's a great spot, both lineouts and scrums have become increasingly slack with people ignoring the laws and refs not enforcing them. Because there are so many set plays, players focus on doing their role instead of following the rules. 9) The England player is not offside because he was onside when he initially bound to the maul and did not release his bind. He has to be onside when he initially binds, he does not have to release if it turns. 10) England 6 did not try to collapse the maul, he was ripped out of it and thrown to the floor. The players who then tripped over him were not bound to the maul and therefore not part of it. The ball is further up the pitch, still in the maul. 11) England 8 did not go off his feet, he was on his feet (although very close to his knees) and his hands were on the tackled player. The SA player comes round the side (also arguably off his feet in a similar position) and picks up the ball. If the SA player stepped over instead of diving round this would have been okay. The reason SA get penalised for going off their feet is that the England counter ruckers actually form a ruck over the ball to contest it, unlike the previous example where SA just dived in round the side without forming a gate. 12) Back to the scrums it's the same thing, SA famously always pull their opponents down - so much so that refs don't even seem to notice it. How are props supposed to stay upright when their opponent is putting all their weight on their shirt, tugging them to the ground? It needs sorting out. 13) The advantage would go away after a certain number of phases, and usually goes as soon as you kick the ball. What makes you say it was a penalty advantage?
Why comment and critisize someone else's work. That is the easiest thing in life!
If you are in the industry - point us to your videos and comments!
@@menlolottering Seriously, my dude? Perhaps you object, but this is a public video of CRITICISM of the refereeing. I don't see it as objectionable to add to that in a constructive way. Jesus.
What's wrong with 12? I'm genuinely asking. Both sides are trying to get the other side to collapse? Are you saying you are not allowed to pull down on your bind?
@@braindeadprawn yes you're not allowed to pull down on their shirt - that's intentionally collapsing the scrum
I'm just an interested rugby viewer (Aussie) and I think you are right on your assessments. Worth noting that on (1) whether the ball is knocked on or not is moot since Kolisis (the tackler) and also Libbock are both very offside having run forward immediately the ball is thrown by George - no waiting for it to clear the 15m line. De Allende and the outside backs held their position. The offside move happened behind the ref so needed the AR's to call it. AR's never call lineout throwers for having their feet on touch and in the field of play. The only excuse is that they have eyes up looking for more impactful stuff and they still miss this sort of thing. It is frustrating when obvious stuff gets missed.
Can you do thee fiji vs ireland game please. You will definitely find alot of bias there
Do the Fiji vs Ireland game please.
I think you should referee a live game and then Andrew Brace can spend a few hours with the video on slow motion and critique your job.
The slomo was for everyone to see what he means and take it in. Some of these were ignorance or bias from the officials. I think you should stop being a poes.
Many of us - and I've refereed over 1000 games in three continents - completely agree with this analysis.
@@HoBBLeCooKiE couldnt say it better
Stop being a dom poes, most of these don't even need to be in slow motion, your kak for brains cant comprehend a live match, so you take offence in slow motion.
good idea maybe the ref could learn something
Do one on the Ireland v New Zealand lots of bias there
Probably the best officiating I’ve seen between Springboks and England as well 🙄
Yip, that's the sad part.
Glad you’re back 😍😍😍
The obstruction rule at kicks is a mess. NZ has been absolutely hammered with penalties from this. Not seeing the consistency for other teams either. The foul play for head contact is also an utter mess of a rule. Dipping into the tackle (the fault of the attacking player) is responsible for 80% of these incidents. The strictness around these accidental incidents are sending players who are in correct tackling positions to the sin bin which is making the game generally worse, not better. There needs to be an adjustment to the rule whereby any dipping or ducking into a tackle that provokes head contact should be deemed accidental and thus exempt from any 'foul play' sanctions.
Seems like even if you run a straight line back and someone runs into you it's a penalty. I mean the need to get back to be inplay
@@dn822 and the thing is, what are they supposed to do? Stand still to prevent a penalty? Really stupid.
Great video, really informative. I think it would be even better if you read the observations as it’s hard to follow what’s happening if you have to jump between reading the text and following the action.
Any take on the Fassi 'Forward pass'
The lineout is not illegal, you, they’re still part of the lineout even if they step to the left.
1:06 in, there is no twist from the white 4 on green 16, green 16 goes to his right when cleared out by white 5. Whether that clean out is legal is another matter, but yet another mistake by the officials.
All your points are legit but the problem about rugby is that is already too officiated. People want to see the game flowing, you can't stop it for all infringments. The Itoje neck roll happened quite far from the try, I read fans complaining about that, for example. If you think Brace had a poor game, I hope you didn't watch Ireland v Fiji (Hollie Davidson)...
What was your opinion on Holly Davidson refereeing of the Ireland vs Fiji match. I thought she seemed to be targeting Fiji and penalizing them unfairly?
Poor officiating (on field refereeing+TMO). I suppose this could be her last appointment of a Tier 1 game, at least for a while.
I agree on De Allende high tackle and english double banking and Dan Cole binding from the wrong side of the maul. The other are either down to referee feeling either just wrong. Ben Earls clearly knocks it backward, the high tackle on Itoje is not clear (there is no ricochet on the head, maybe it was just shoulder on shoulder) the scrums need to be seen from both sides and Kolisi double receiver is completely fine to me. Also if you compete at the breakdown and than you go off feat is fine, you must not go straight to ground before competing. Ben Earls no arms tackle is a 50-50 as he clearly tries to wrap but fails by a lot.
I am neutral and I think the referee did a good job overall :)
bro where do yoy get the full matches downloaded?
So 15 yellow cards in a game, that will be fun.
So what are you saying, we shouldn’t have rule or we shouldn’t always apply the rule. In you esteemed opinion, when should we or shouldn’t we apply them o’mighty one? If there are 15 yellow cards in the game it shouldn’t be because of the officiating, but because of the decisions made by the players.
@Hard_Thinker Common sense should be used. If it's not malicious the game must be allowed to flow. It is a contact sport. That is why we watch it and play it. If new rules are brought in the players must be given time to get used to the rules. It should not kill the game.
No. If these calls were called correctly, the players would see they cannot get away with it. Stop being so ignorant.
@@FearlessOnFourWheels so the same player can neck roll twice in the same game and get a warning? I reckon you should rethink your version of contact sport, it isn't malicious intent, just to give you a clue.
Love you’re vids please keep them coming, it exposes how poor and inconsistent the referees are today, world rugby is ruining the game we all love, perhaps there is a job for you with them
Its not a knock on if it bounces backwards mate
That first clip - was never a knock on. The ball went backwards.
after the bounce. The ball is not round
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the ball didn't go forward at any stage - either after or before it bounced.
@@bengreen171 thats what they said at the 23 RWC final
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I don't recall the incident, but it doesn't change the fact that in this case, the ball did not go forward.
@@bengreen171 like back then it did
Love your channel. I have always thought that one other onfield assistant reff needs to be added.
I think no refs. Just 30 TMO refs basicly one to watch each player. They can have 2 teams and make it a game on their own.
when will you do one about the Boss being offside at every breakdown and never getting pinged for it?
What is the other option for genge at those rucks?
Counter rucking legally... get low grab player, push. Not run and dive with a leading shoulder at their head.
The standard of referring at the moment is terrible!!! TMO's are not much better, they only see what they want to see. The first clip was obvious during the game but no call from the TMO!!!
Is brace just bad or is he biased? would love to see stats on ref's wrt 50/50 calls and incorrect calls in each game and see if it shows bias.
When i look at previous boks and URC games where Brace has officiated SA teams, the calls are allways 50/50. He got reprimanded for the Stormers game, they lost because of scrum penalties they didnt receive. There was quite a few times during this game that Brace would lift his arm for a penalty, then lowered his arm again, not blowing his whistle, got me thinking he wasent sure about his calls on field and most of these calls were made against the boks.
its 4 seconds in and you're wrong. A knock on is a loss of control of the ball resulting in the ball travelling forwards and touching another player or the ground. It clearly is a loss of possession backwards and touches the floor
Tell me using physics how you go forward and lose the ball backwards. It hits the ground (not floor, we aren't dancing) and then only rolls backwards.
We keep seeing the same thing every week! Problem is no one is holding the officials to account🤷🏻♂️ I can appreciate how the on field referee might miss a few things or make a wrong call in the moment, I get that. What I can’t understand is the TMO interference and totally wrong calls when they have replay and time to review! There’s no excuse for that! Look at the All Blacks last couple of games, TMO calls a neck roll when it clearly wasn’t against France at a crucial time in the match, and this was Marius Jonker a seasoned referee! then fast forward a week and the TMO is begging the referee to give a yellow when the referee has made his decision! Good on him for sticking with his call! TMO needs massive restriction I feel?
5:42 since when can tacklers roll into the cleaners
I thought you supposed to roll east or west and not north or south
What you think about Fiji vs Ireland
What's the hype about Ben Earls? I don't get it
He’s had a few great games. A few shockers.
@Macron87 ya I guess that is to be expected in a transitional England team, I feel like he's doing more wrong than right at the moment though
You are right about Ben Whitehouse becoming the New Marius Jonker at being A TMO Both of them shouldn’t even be a referee never mind A TMO
Could you analyze Argentina vs France? It was a game full of refereeing errors. Quite dubious I would say.
I think the kick chase obstructions are really tough to call. You could probably call a penalty every single time, it's more about penalizing the most egregious obstructions imo.
First tackle siya makes on earl, is it not knocked on by siya in the tackle so play on??
Can u do the incompetant woman ref in FIJI V Ireland who punished Fiji but not ireland
Andy Grace is should not be allowed to ref international games, his clueless and blind.
Can you imagine the TMO and Ref did pick up on everthing the game would be in the gutter as if its not worse and worse every day with the little jackles infront of all their TMO screens...
Great anaylsis
As much as I enjoy watching these videos, if the ref blew everything that you mentioned, the game would take twice as long.
Why dont you make a video of los pumas matches? vs aus 1, vs ireland, vs france…. And a lot more
5:09 green 7 does not go straight for the ball, but instead rests his body weight on the ruck, then when the ball comes back, green 7 plays the ball in the ruck with his hands. Clearly foul play.
That last one had me super confused. Absolutely no advantage; absolutely no advantage over called: I couldn't believe my eyes.
SA missed Ben O´k
Its fair to say, the ref was not up to standard. World Rugby needs to raise the standard
Refs must be hold accountable
People still get emotionally invested in sport. One big corrupt kabal run by bookies.
No truer words have been spoken than this. If people understand we would not get worked up about anything because frankly all of it is cooked, all of it! From rugby to cricket to soccer all of it. You want proof, just look at the many bookmakers and players found guilty of this over the many years of watching and there is your answer. The only difference is that it is more blatant in certain instances than the other but crooked all the same. In short, I agree wholeheartedly with you.
@TASanalytics You have to do the analysis of the end of the match between Ireland and Argentina, it was a blatant theft!
How is a ref or even a tmo supposed to pick all this up, you may as well just accept watching it with the current rules that a bunch of stuff will get missed every game
One thing we are taught as referees is materiality. If there is a slight infringement that does not affect play, we issue a warning and do not assess a PK.
The TMO has access to all the cameras and all the replays they need to make a decision but if they stopped to check every single play every single time, the match would take all day. As such there will always be things that are missed, especially knock ons where the ball goes backwards - they're hard to spot even in slow motion.
Everybody can make a mistake - the trick is too learn from it and improve. Is Andrew Brace getting better after all his mistakes? Probably not - do something World Rugby. Additional coaching may work.
Please analyze the Argentina vs Ireland. Especially the scrums 😮
Still - I‘d enjoy being an international ref. Great job.
If ever there was match fixing or shall we rather say an attempt. It seems the TMO's is the most influenced party.
Great video. Andrew brace has always been & will always be an atrociously bad official
This channel is riddled with inaccuracies
1. When SA6 hit ENG 8, the ball gos backwards
2. ENG 8 Dives at the knee. The Eng8 is statonay as the contact is made and is pushed down due to the force of the contact
3. The differences with clearing with the kicks is that the SA play slows infront of the catcher where as the eng players continue to run past the catcher
4. Dan Cole is not in a offside position, as at point of contact he is at the front of the maul
5. There is a difference between collapsing the maul and not collapsing the maul
This channle name should be changed to "cry more because refs cant be perfect"
Oh we're not crying, we won. Sounds like you are crying though.
The only inaccuracy is England's ability to tackle with arms
Your knowledge of rugby boggles the mind! The fact your comment starts with "This channel is riddled with inaccuracies" says mountains. Consider starting your own channel to argue your interpretations. All opinions matter, but to start the comment the way you did is unnecessary. I'll end my comment this way, 4 times World Champions, current Rugby Championship champions, number one in the world, most respected opposition of the All Blacks, their supporters can't be that inaccurate.
@@EliJon378this video criticises both sides, assuming anyone who disagrees with the criticism is an England fan is a bit odd. If this channel is a SA fan channel then it should say so but it seems to be balanced and fair to me (even if I disagree with some of the analysis).
@@elliottsw I'm assuming it's a SA supporter because it only seems to show SA videos, and there's nothing in the rules that says it should say who they support. Yes you're right, it does show both sides, and it is fair and balanced.
I get why you do this in that channels are now monetised and negativity breeds popularity, but they're not helpful. You are criticising decisions which can easily be missed in the speed of the game.
Wasn't it Wayne Barnes when he retired said that we either accept the game with referee errors or we meticulously review every decision with the TMO to ensure right decisions. I know which one I'd prefer.
I think it would be better to include more positives about the ref, else it just feeds into the awful rhetoric that has crept into the game.
How can it be missed when there is TMO!!!And yet the ref missed a lot of calls
We need to hold a high standard but constant criticism doesn’t achieve that.
Positive feedback has to come with the negative.
Surely that\s the point, the whole inconsistency of the officiating. The TMOs think the game is all about them.
I'm a South African and I have tried but just cannot see that knock on by Eng 8 in the first example =/
You can't see it because it never happened. It would have been most certainly reviewed being that a try was scored. Every try scored is ticked off by the TMO despite this content provider continually saying the likes of - the TMO didn't even check it.
Genge needs to go
The 12 was trying to buy a yellow. SA 12 stopped dead in his tracks a meter before contact. The 12 then rams his head up into SA 12, he could have easily lowered his head to stomach level and did a drive with his feet to gain meters instead he reared his head up for nothing. He was having a shite game anyway, they had a overlap once in SA 22, just for him to kick the ball dead. SA12 is a world cup winner, best 12 SA has ever had arguably. just for some shite club lvl player who runs like a bull into his head, Damian has tackled many 12s in similar positions for years. I think the 12 wanted to be removed because he knew he was playing average, he got smashed by KLA, and when they had a chance in 2nd half, he popped the ball to the 13 who got smashed by Kriel, instead of the behind the back to Marcus who is their best player and had a possible overlap...
The game has become WWE. The team that is trailing will always get the benefit of the doubt or no one sees their trangressions, its like a participation medal. this is to ensure cliff-hanger games. Unfortunately its not right and should be investigated. I suspect the officials are under clear instructions, to me this is match fixing and over dramatization of games. We will never see big wins again.
The question that I have, is how many incorrect decisions constitute a good game for the referee and his team. In my opinion none of them are worth feeding - oxygen thieves at the very best.
clear knock on ??? the ball went backwards
De Allende is too upright. Can’t be much debate on that.
I will never understand how people could understand the fact that all 46 players on the day will make at least one mistake, however they expect the referee to have a perfect performance. The Autumn Nations series officiating was not the best I'll admit that, but to me the actions of the television match officials in many of the games were worse than the actions of the on field officials. Just an opinion and everyone's opinion sucks.
First one obviously went backwards
Do you own a clipboard and pen? Your analysis is easily made after the event. Many calls are correct, but you clearly have no experience of actually playing in or officiating today’s games.
Funny how the losers of the match defend their teams foul play, TSA is doing a good job with these analyses, although it won't change the outcome, the SH will always chew the hind-tit when they play in the NH!
With the amount Malcolm Marx is on the grass opponents side of the ruck constantly not supporting his body weight at all putting his head down there it's not surprising. He knows the rules are bullsheet and regularly puts himself in bad positions then appeals to the ref.
I watched this game. The ref was shite..
All these pedantic rules are a FUKN MESS this modern day game is fkn ridiculous 👎🏻👎🏻🤌🤌😬🤛🤛
As a Springbok supporter i can say you guys are not even trying to be impartial. What a joke.
the game would be terrible to watch if there were this many stops,
ball went backwards off SA 6 tackle. I have seen refs call that knock on from the tackler. So There's that. ( and I dont like Brace much)
First clip SA off side at the line out
May as well change rugby to a round ball and ask all players to wear skirts and absolutely no contact 😂
Message to them person who made this post. I am assuming you are South African?. I am South African as well and if you are South African I'm a little bit embarrassed for you. I only watch 43 seconds into this and had to turn it off. That first knock on you point to the ball is clearly knocked back in the tackle.... You even have it in slow motion. How did you not pick that up?... The next two incidents you raised were just ridiculous so I switched this off
Youve got a few a those wrong im afraid. Some well spotted, but some wrong. But we have to accept that not everything will be seen and hope that things will be evenly missed and evenly penalised, otherwise we will ruin the game nitpicking.
why dont you just get a job as TMO
The thing is wr ruin rugby,doesnt matter what its imposible to ref and to be consistent snymore,the cards sucks like u said "the carrier changed angle but "in nowerdays",supposed to be yellow"""...which they will fire entire wr board fit new ones and ban the csrd system...or 12,13,14 players vs 15 its more dangerious and no benefit for smaller teams also killing rugby...
Stop eating Sour grapes, a loss is a loss, get over it, Springboks are the best💪💪
Brace is a known SA hater.
Im convinced you would double your viewers if you rather do a voiceover....most people HATE reading
I appreciate it that you only post games that depict HORRENDOUS officiating
This must have been the most frustrating game to watch in terms of officiating and World Rugby need me to invest more into training its refs better instead of pushing out more dumb rules
There WAS head contact but the SA player was such a sweetie and such a gorgeous gentleman he deserved a pat on the bum and some free movie tickets not a penalty.
The Ref tried his hardest to let the Poms will and they still LOST.
If the game gets analysed like this in slo mo play by play ball touch by ball touch, games will be 3 hours long, might as well turn it into Grid-iron with adverts during every review. You cannot expect a human ref to see every single infringement on field in real time, while you have the luxury of unlimited replays from 3+ angles. Get real mate.
Man you are making some strange unhealthy excuses for head contact!
And Cheslin grabs the guys arm in the air, that was tackling in the air not shepherding and should have been a yellow!
Very first thing in your video, you have Kolisi tackling Earls and complain about Earl's knocking on. How about you check if Kolisi was onside? He should have been back 10m until the ball goes over the 15m line. Of course he ran forward as soon as George threw it, and Libbock was also very obviously offside. The AR's should have called it because that happens behind the back of the ref.
Its all to even up the game. Unfair on the Boks but thats what I believe the refs are doing.
Why aren’t Springboks playing Ireland and or France????😳🤷🏼♂️😂
Someone is looking after them lol not only the referees the World Rugby guy must be South African lol
Please stop using the subtitles. If you cant talk use a IA voice or something. Love the great analysis but you cant read and watch the play at the same time. Its hard to see what you trying to show. Just some positive suggestions....thanks
Agree
It really isn't that difficult as you make it sound buddy lol If it's that hard for you how about pausing the video to read it then continue to watch, you low IQ individual😂
Anyone watch Luke Pearce this weekend? Doh! - His Dad was a MUCH better referee!
You should do a video of a full game showing how many times SA players try to jackel the ball (successful or not) while not supporting body weight.
I think you could do a highlights package on a certain number 16 alone and the number of times he doesn’t support his weight 😂
Dirty Cheslin Kolby off side at the kick, then goes on to take out the player in the air. Has a history of dirty play like that. Cant believe this was missed. The player fell very heavily due to this blatant foul play.
When you're on the loosing side you gotta be defensive even when the officials did they're best to help you out, but now you're scrapping the bottom of the barrel 😂 offside, can see your point but dirty play? you're smoking cheap kak😂 it was a fair contest in the air, eng player cut him off as well as he had to go around the guy and then jump. Another example of the officials trying to not keep consistent where it benefits you 🤫🤏
Another biased dimwit.
Every experienced rugby player can RE-referee a match with the aid of multiple angles, slow motion replays & all the rest & pin point numerous differences in the reading of decisions, fxxxxxg snore-bore!
Such tedious antics are guaranteed to destroy our great game. On balance such drawn out small minded dragging over the coals of a match evidences roughly equal good fortune for both sides.
Just play on gentlemen, this is rugby that we enjoy playing hard & fast without academic forensics of refereeing after the fact. Suggest people stop their bleating & whinging referee analytics.
Hes back!! Did "The black jersey" report you 200 times and you couldnt upload?😂😂🤦🏽♂️
Well he probbably did do that😂, but no, just been very busy with work so it's hard to upload regularly. Trying to catch up on uploads now at the end of the year.
@tasanalytics ohh I see I see, I swear everytime after each game that played since July, I kept saying, "TAS is going to have a field trip with this games analysis"😂😂😂 I'm starting to watch rugby games on a deeper level now
English refs are a blight on the game
He's Irish.
Andy Brace is Irish 😂
This video should be called anti England video to make us feel good and attack the referee...Also considering you made a video about bad refereeing, you then fcku it up by totaly getting it wrong in one more than a few instances . Seriously you should referee a international game so everyone can critique you.