Clemson is about to SET FIRE to the ACC | Lawsuit | CONFERENCE REALIGNMENT | SEC | BIG10 | FSU
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- Опубликовано: 18 мар 2024
- In the high-stakes world of college sports, conference realignment has reached a critical juncture, and the Atlantic Coast Conference (ACC) finds itself at the forefront of an uphill battle. Join us as we delve into the future of the ACC.
With the powerhouse alliance of ESPN and FOX, (AKA the SEC and BIG10), joining forces, the ACC faces unprecedented challenges to maintain its standing, even as their most elite teams, such as Florida State, North Carolina, Clemson and Miami are uniting against them.
ACC current members:
Boston College Eagles
Clemson Tigers
Duke Blue Devils
Florida State Seminoles
Georgia Tech Yellow Jackets
Louisville Cardinals
Miami Hurricanes
North Carolina Tar Heels
North Carolina State (NC State) Wolfpack
Notre Dame Fighting Irish (football member, all other sports except hockey are members of the ACC)
Pittsburgh Panthers
Syracuse Orange
Virginia Cavaliers
Virginia Tech Hokies
Wake Forest Demon Deacons
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It’s about time Clemson!
“Welcome to the party Clemson” you and FSU are now in this together. I believe we will see here in the near future other ACC schools join us both in this matter.
Imagine what florida state and clemson can do with thirty more million dollars a year 😢
Buy some teeth and case of PBR for the coaches?
@@LarryHatchSave it for your plant sissy
I don't think they get offered full shares by either the B1G or SEC, money is getting tight. Fox has already said they are tapped out. ESPN will have some extra cash once they don't have to pay the ACC media deal anymore, but I expect them to play hardball and try to get ACC teams on the cheap.
Clemson and fsu has become a great rivalry I hope they stay together once the dust settle
I don't think their staying together ... Clemson is SEC or bust while FSU has been in talks about joining the B1G and FSU would rather have Miami follow them than Clemson
@@ddcs0s Miami isn't attractive to any conference. They are 43rd in attendance and 49th in tv viewership. Besides some 30 for 30s, they are irrelevant, regardless of what happened 20 plus years ago and counting. Miami doesn't even care about Miami football.
Part of clemsons complaint is how the acc violated conference bylaws by not having a vote to sue fsu
FSU and Clemson are leading leading the way, Now it's time for other team to step up. Like my Canes. let’s not leave our brother and rivel alone in this fight.
#CanesNation
#GoCanes
Hoping you guys do! Soon!
Y’all can’t complain when we call you lil’bro anymore lol. We took the hits for you. Y’all are a great brand that just need to get your shit together and you should win again. You’ll have a home for sure in however way this P2 shakes out. What are you waiting for? lol.
No ... FSU is leading the way Clemson is just smart enough to realize FSU is right ... I'd like Miami to come with FSU to the B1G so I hope Miami decides to leave as well
Miami needs the ACC to continue to fund their crap program. Nobody is confusing Miami with value. The numbers don't support it. They are losing money if not for the ACC's payout.
No way Clemson does this or takes this risk without the SEC or B10 offering a landing spot!
They had a plan up their sleeve the whole time.
Yeah, it wouldn't make sense unless they have a conference lined up to accept them. Athletically and culturally most ACC members would be a good fit for the SEC. Will be interesting to see what the SEC does since the SEC started this conference realignment talk back in early 90s adding Ark and USC.
people need to use common sense. It's OBVIOUS that FSU, Clemson, UNC, UVA, Miami are all safe. All are big enough brands where at least 1 if not BOTH of the SEC and Big 10 will want them. NC State and Virginia Tech safe too because worst case they will be picked up as backup teams just to be in those states. Neither the Big 10 or the SEC will want to "cede" the Carolinas/Virginia to the Big 12 and let them into that market. Georgia Tech is the bubble team. SEC probably not interested, Big 10 would take them if they have room but if they get their "top picks" like UNC/UVA they might run out of room. Duke is bubble team, again depending on who goes where they could end up in P2 or could fall to Big 12. Pitt/Louisville are locks to the Big 12. Syracuse/Boston College/Wake Forest are bubble Big 12 teams and could end up there or could end up in the Big East or AAC.
@@DaninVa-gt9njI would be surprised if went to SEC. All chatter has been the Big Ten. With Miami and Notre Dame. FSU and Miami and Clemson and Notre Dame would bring the Big Ten to 22. They see 24 as top number, leaving room for 2 more.
@@mark8337 Only issue with that is Clemson is ranked 86th academically and even as a public school their at 43rd ... The B1G puts a heavy emphasis on academics Miami and Notre Dame are AAU schools and FSU is a top 25 public school that almost got AAU membership this year ... FSU Miami and Notre Dame will all likely get B1G invites ... Clemson won't
Thank you Clemson! FSU fans, just because we seem like teamates right now, and just because I am rooting for you right now, does not mean that we cool. We can be cool for now, but come season's start... we are not cool then. But thank you Noles for exposing the ACC and ESPN, and thank you for leading the charge with that spear of yours.
Welcome to the party, pal. We don't mind being John McClane while you are the cop outside that used to be on Family Matters.
Man screw Clemson!
@larrypruitt3919 you act like any Clemson fans care about your classless insult, lol. Like I said, we are joining up in this lawsuit, and I'll agree FSU got robbed in the playoffs last year, but don't take this as if we cool. We still own FSU, and we are still rivals. When Clemson and FSU make it out of this God forsaken dead end conference, we aren't going to act like the rest of the SEC, riding coattails and rooting for our rivals like they do. Stay classy Tallahassee.
@@meditatingmunky3824you care!
@@meditatingmunky3824
Your fanbase called fsu crybabies for suing . Now you go do it. So cry to your own fanbase. Followers
I think the playoff expansion money was the final straw.
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Right!
I think it was coming anyways
Clemson has continued to do things in their athletic department correctly. While some other ACC schools aren't really trying to be successful. That is what Clemson is tired of. They are receiving the same payout as schools who continue to not try.
Clemson must have a landing spot or they wouldn’t be doing this
You deserve a thumbs up just for the thumbnail. Super impressive.
Who every one should sue is ESPN
Your limited knowledge is showing if you believe that. It's either that or you're too emotional to think logically.
That's somewhat true, but there's a lot more going on here, mainly schools are chasing money to stay afloat in Collegiate sports.
I agree! ESPN’s every move has been in favor of the SEC and they have ultimately destroyed the ACC.
@joshuarowell7732 every move, huh... name 3!
We (clemson fan) let you take that initial barrage. Now we are counter punching.. Let's go!!
Let’s Go!!
F Thesr Snuggy Hill Bastards!!
The ACC needs to take off the blinders and let go. It's a dead conference walking. If a conference has to sue its own members, then it's no longer a viable conference. It's telling that another member wants out and has filed suit. Hope UNC and Va wake up and follow suit. The ACC has been reduced to adding Pac12 leftovers and a B12 reject in SMU. Show some class ACC if that's possible for a classless conference.
You knew when the ACC agreed to less money in CFP that Clemson was gone. Clemson has as many CFP wins as the Big10.
It isn’t CFP wins. It seems no matter how many times you’re told, it is TV rating for games that matter. Period! If you look at TV rating records almost every time at least one if not both teams are now part of the Big 10 or SEC.
FSU, Clemson, Miami, North Carolina, and Notre Dame will all probably end up in the SEC or the Big 10. If they are smart they push for the Big 10, because long term they are well ahead of the SEC as well.
@@matthewhuszarik4173 LOL
North Carolina would never go or survive in the SEC. They are too snooty.@@matthewhuszarik4173
@@matthewhuszarik4173 exactly. and more than that other teams will be there too. The only other thing besides TV ratings that matter is conference footprint for football recruiting (which feeds TV ratings) and this will lead to Virginia in the P2 and the Big 10 to give honest thought to adding teams like Georgia Tech or NC State as well.
wishful thinking on those
Clemson apparently has a definite landing spot, that's why they joined the fight.
SEC?
Clemson with UNC to the SEC and FSU and possibly Miami to the Big 10. The big question mark is ND. Do they stay ACC or leave?
@@davidbrown386 I would say no. What future would one of the most sought after pgms have in the ACC?
I could see the Big 10 taking FSU and giving ND the choice of coming with us or we are taking Miami.
@@davidbrown386 I don't think Notre Dame is giving up their independence anytime soon. As long as the ACC exists in some shape or form, they will continue their scheduling alliance with them. If the ACC completely collapses, I could see Notre Dame possibly doing some kind of scheduling alliance with the Big 12.
You may want to do a show with Brian Knight at Clemson Football Live
What I'm hearing, ESPN is the biggest problem in college sports. ACC CONFERENCES WAS DUM AS HELL FOR AGREE TO THIS
100 % it was a terrible deal. The only thing I'll say for Swofford is this... at the time, there was a basis to lock into a long-term deal. Realignment had just wrecked the Big East, which was probably the conference most like them in terms of geography, basketball prowess (albeit much weaker in football) and they wanted something in place to lock in their teams in so that they wouldn't have the eventual Pac 12 scenario happen to them. The problem is that Swofford either didn't see the payoff that was coming down the line or didn't think his brands were good enough to demand it, so he allowed them to be locked in at a terrible amount of money with no avenue to negotiate.
GO Tigers, GO Noles.
"Set fire" 😂😂 death talk
Boy this whole thing is a mess! Now Clemson is having to sue as well! That means ACC was holding out on not only FSU and Clemson, but also every other school.
@@kerrymurphy8339is that your only response instead of explaining the grant of rights situation 🤔
@@kerrymurphy8339 Yes I do know what I'm talking about. Swarnford was only in best interests for the ACC and not the schools. Go back and look at news on here from 2 months ago.
@@kerrymurphy8339 Explain the Grant of Rights if you think you know more. Over 550 million just to get out of the Grant .FSU had to share money with other teams in the ACC, that was the deal and they was doing that but the ACC wasn't doing their part on the whole ESPN contract deal.
This great news. Let's get this sport willowed down to an AFC and an NFC. I'm tired of watching little brother get throttled. It's not compelling on TV, or live.
FINALY! Welcome aboard Tigers.GO NOLES!!!
Maryland fan. What took y’all so long. FSU was suppose to keave before we did.
Right! Maryland got the F outta dodge! They was first to go to BIG-10
And how are they doing now? Not much better lol
@@LeaveChildrenAlone But our pockets are heavier.
@@LeaveChildrenAlone they are doing MUCH better. Before they left they were out of money. They would look like Cal if they didn't leave when they did. Also with ACC imploding they are already LOCKED into the P2 while teams like NC State, Duke, Virginia, Virginia Tech, Louisville sweat it out.
lousy leadership at the time. It happens.
I do agree on one thing Miami 🏈is thrash
And all 500 fans that show up to home games I can’t see being in a new conference can fix that 💩even when they played A&M the 🏟️ half empty 😢 #LsUp #L1C4
Miami's market brand size AAU memberships and rivalry with FSU will allow them to follow FSU to the B1G ... Go Noles
Just send over Don Corleone with Luca Brasi. You can have this whole thing settled in about an hour. 🤣
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Didn't work out well for Luca did it? Send Al Neri instead. He was the silent hit man for Michael. Anyway, we get the point.
I hope they will enjoy playing in the Big Ten.
Love your videos and how u answer comments. Could be a hot take but I see UVA and UNC making move on a closer timeline than UNC Miami. Very close schools athletic, acadmic, and history. Miami needs to wait on more word from Florida state to judge the Florida market availability. Also have been rumors for years about UVa being one of the first four to leave. Definitely would be a cool video to discuss. Lots of investment into football here, rise in recruiting for 2025, transfer portal this year, brand recognition, our AD carla williams. Lots of things brewing here in cville
Also if a p2 picks them up, it will boost them to at least a top 10 revenue generating athletic program
Feel free to reach out I’ve been invested in college realignment for uva for a while now and have had conversation with staff
Thank you 🙏
Will Phillips write his speech or ESPN write it for him
This tells me that Clemson already has an exit plan and an agreement (informal at this point) with either the SEC or B1G.
In my day a contact signed was a contract honored. No one held a gun to your head, you signed on your own accord.
My handle will tell you who I stand with, but, if we (my boys and your boys) can get one more program to come into this with another lawsuit, this could be one too many fronts for the ACC to fight. In particular, I am hoping UNC or Virginia (yeah I know long shot there) to jump into the fray with us. Nothing ultra strategic with those teams other than it further divides the ACC's resources BUT they both have a law school like FSU does. A law school in your back pocket can be pretty convenient to have if you need some extra resources to throw at a lawsuit that looks a little on the "creative" side on parts.
I loved the ACC conference, the end is coming for them!!😢
I’m the only one from FSU that liked the ACC. It wasn’t a bad conference. It always had good balance across athletics and academics but just had poor management and failed to take care of its members. If they did this wouldn’t be happening.
I’m a UNC fan. I’ll share with Bubba
Sweet 🤝
Maybe Jim’s pal at the CW will step up to bat for him. What’s that you say? He couldn’t even be bothered to show up to ACC media days last year to announce the deal with CW?
Thank You Clemson !!! FSU & Clemson need to expose espn
FSU to the BIG ( they will hold out for ND ...if they choose to leave Independence) and Clemson and UNC to the SEC. My guess...
With the departure of BOTH FSU and Clemson, we are seeing THE COLLAPSE OF THE ACC. I just wonder what will happen to the schools left behind. I also wonder what will happen to schools such as Purdue, Northwestern, Indiana, and Illinois in The B1G TEN along with schools such as South Carolina, Ole Miss, Mississippi State, and Vanderbilt in The SEC. I have a feeling that these particular schools may be removed from their respective conferences to make room for schools such as FSU, Clemson, North Carolina, NC State, Virginia, and Virginia Tech.
Nobody is getting pushed out of the B1G or SEC to make room for VT UVA NCSU or UNC those programs are no better than the SEC and B1G bottom feeders you mentioned if the SEC or B1G really have a limit to how many programs their willing to have VT UVA NCSU and UNC will more than likely be stuck in a smaller conference
You may be correct with all these schools except UNC. They have a landing spot in either SEC or B10, no question about it. @@ddcs0s
Welcome to the party, pal. Yippee kiyaa mfer.
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You'd have made a pretty good cowboy yourself
If the ACC breaks up I hope they keep the rivalries together. 😢
This is nothing. Wait until the eSPN lawsuits…
ESPN is in check mate. They fuck around with FSU and Clemson and Florida politics will twist their 🥜
LOL
In a lot of circumstances, I would say that you're right, But right now I think Disney is trying to have as little legal exposure in the state of Florida as they possibly can, with the Governor having such an adversarial relationship with them. I think they try to keep out of this as much as they can while giving Phillips the old "atta boy" in private.
UNC, Duke, UVA, Stanford, Miami, Notre Dame to B10!!
I doubt stanford is going to do anything soon. They just joined the ACC. However it would be cool to see them in the B10
Who wants those trash schools. ND maybe, but those are not football schools.
They are not taking all of those teams. Big 10 will probably take Notre Dame and either UNC, UVA, or Miami.
UNC will join the SEC if and when they leave the SEC. Wait and see.
@@jansonroberts2616, UNC would benefit more in the B10 academically.
Any prediction where the current ACC teams will be playing in the 25 - 26 season.
It's only a guess of course but I think FSU, Virginia go to the B10 and Clemson and North Carolina go to the SEC. And that's only the start.
Big 10: FSU & Miami. SEC: Clemson & UNC Big XII: Louisville & NC State. The rest stay in the ACC and they add Tulane & USF ( maybe OSU and WSU). ND is a question mark.
@@booster222jc Sounds about right.
@@davidbrown386 Sounds about right. Like you said, always curious to see what Notre Dame does.
@@booster222jc I agree with UNC and Clemson to the SEC at some point. Virginia was one of the five schools that approved the lawsuit filed by the ACC against FSU. Miami was another school that approved. Things are really twisted at this point t on who is actually a viable candidate for the B1G and SEC.
Can someone please tell me why North Carolina’s AD, “Bubba” spoke out against FSU’s lawsuit towards the ACC? Why wasn’t this a major sports media story? Seriously, what’s his angle? It makes absolutely no sense to me whatsoever!
Just thinking about Tobacco Road and Wake, Duke & the Wolf Pack. I will be almost shocked if UNC joins this lawsuit frenzy. I think Miami may join the litigating. ESPN failing to extend that ACC TV contract past that 2027 deadline will be the death of the ACC. Not these lawsuits or actions by UNC.
From what I read, it wasn’t the lawsuit but rather the noise around FSU prior to the lawsuit. UNC wasn’t one of the five ACC teams that approved the lawsuit filed by the ACC against FSU.
@@WarHog38KCS Miami was one of five schools in the ACC that approved the lawsuit filed against FSU. It’s not looking like Miami will be filing if they went along with the ACC in its litigation against FSU.
There's a lot of North Carolina politics going on there, as well. The state doesn't want to see the ACC fail. ALSO, thanks to the new law, the person that would have to approve unc leaving is an NC State Alum (head of the university system? Correct me if I'm wrong) and the word is that UNC is not going anywhere without NC State. Which could blow the whole thing up if neither of the top 2 will take both.
@@RogerBates7 If that's the case and UNC and NCSU have to both get an invite their both screwed because the biggest reason to add either of them is to expand you're market neither of them are even close to being as valuable as FSU or Clemson in football the sport that draws the most money and there's no way the SEC or B1G double down on the NC market it's not like CA FL or TX it's just not that valuable
Y'all are all over this stuff.....
Appreciate you! 🫡
And can’t wait for UNC to file as soon as the ACC responds to Clemson.
Why is UNC important? They may sell a lot of merchandise but they aren't going to share the merch revenue with another league. Uva, Virginia Tech and NC State have more fan support in football.
UNC is the flagship school of the ninth largest state in the country that has a massive national following. @@kevinbrown-ge6sz
We should expect the ACC to file a suit to combine the Clemson and FSU lawsuits. This could cause a delay
It would probably get shot down. Both schools are arguing distinct elements. Clemson has some overlap with FSU but FSU has more conference malfeasance. If ACC loses enough of the battles on discovery (which it should since discovery doesn't mean that the documents have to be seen by the public) then it will probably look to settle.
This had to happen.
Clemson has a landing spot. Hearing reports UNC and CLEMSON are headed to SEC according to very reliable Sec Sources and Athletic mentioned this.
David, hope so. USC has a history with a lot of ACC members as USC was a founding member of the ACC but was treated like a redheaded stepchild by the ACC and was practically forced to withdraw. Karma is coming back to right old wrongs.
@@DaninVa-gt9nj USC was treated fine, they left because they couldn't compete in basketball and wanted a better chance to win, which didn't work out well for their program.
@@billw5823 You need to study USC's history in MBB as USC ran through the ACC undefeated with Frank McGuire as HC one year(very rarely has that been done)and defeated UNC, the darling of the ACC, in the ACC championship tournament thus becoming ACC champs. The real reason for the ACC's mistreatment was exactly the opposite of what you posted. USC had been the ACC's whipping boy but that changed with McGuire as HC and the "Big Four" couldn't stand that and USC was basically drummed out. Now that Bad Karma is coming back to haunt the ACC which will collapse as Clemson has filed suit, too, against the ACC to get out.
Clemson, Florida State, Notre Dame, Miami, North Carolina, Virginia, Stanford, Georgia Tech break away to start the Super League. With unequal revenue sharing of course.
FSU is my favorite rival, honestly. Love to dunk on NC State and SC, but they’re completely irrelevant.
I do hope Clemson/FSU do end up in the same conference and one of them win the ACCCG this year. Then we could make the annual rivalry a trophy game for the last ACC trophy. Could even call the game “The ACC Championship Game “.
lol
I can say I love trashing SC most, but FSU has been our most relevant in conference rival the past 20-25 years. I enjoy our games with NC State, though. theyre good people who just went to the wrong school.
I personally don't quite understand why everybody is celebrating the potential demise of the ACC. This is all driven by football. I take the Chip Kelly approach: Football should separate from the rest of the sports. Let them all become independents in football and have your AFC/NFC. Leave the other sports to your regional conferences like the ACC, SEC, Big 12, PAC 12, Big 10, etc. There's no reason why a girls' softball team should travel cross-country to play a mid-week regular season conference game. The only revenue sports are football & basketball.
The ACC isn’t positioning itself as the league OK with not being a football power house. They are fighting tooth and nail to force the football teams who have invested into staying to supplement all the teams who haven’t invested into football. When they switch their approach, then people will see them as less of a threat.
I kinda just want them to leave already so I can see how this shakes out for the group of 5.
If FL St. wins I don't think Clemson can "join the winning side". If Clemson wins any ACC member can use that reasoning to get out, but the reasoning FL st is using applies to FL State's situation.
I think Clemson knows FSU and the ACC are about to sign a NDA and settle out of court and they want to get in on that deal before it's too late
Took long enough, Clemson. Let FSU take all the media backlash in the meantime
I don’t mind, they came with different arguments which increases odds of cheap escape and have helped us out from the inside.
Isn’t that the point of exit fees is to deter you from exiting.
Yes but the way Grant of rights is worded the teams are not responsible to pay espn to get out
Who is next...
Let's remember, FSU, Clemson, and North Carolina were the 3 holdouts on the teams that are joining the ACC with N.C. State being the 4th who gave in. Now let's take the conspiracy type of thinking here. You have 3 teams that do not want this expansion taking them to the west coast for 2, lets be honest, sub par teams. Texas for the third. So you have 3 coming in, and um......3 wanting to leave...... North Carolina will be the last spy in the room and will eventually file themselves. I feel pretty confident that their lawsuit will attack a different angle of the grant of rights. It seems very calculated and quite honestly intelligent in the way it is unfolding
Go Noles!
Wow, did you hear, MIAMi, (ACC),voted to sue Florida State! There Aholes!
This is so modern set theory. What does it mean when all the members of a set sue the set? Who is getting sued?
the problem is the set is not the members of the set. think of all the times states have sued the federal govt, and vice versa, despite most of the government being in place at the whim of the states. somethjng similar is happening here. what is best for the conference is not always what is best for all its members.
Hold one second. The darling of the ACC is suing the ACC.
The “Darling” of the ACC is actually UNC and they might be next to sue.
Fsu’s brand name in the acc is worth the most along with Clemson (tho not as much) but why we should we be sharing the same piece of the pie with teams who suck year after year and have never even won an acc championships it’s time for an exodus
well, it used to be football revenue wasnt as dominant as it is now. it also used to be the rest of the conference didnt suck so much. but you also have to look at the competition. the other conferences havent stood still, either. their investments have had more returns than the ACC's.
@@bleachorange that’s mainly because of the bullshit raycom deal with the Acc commissioner that bailed out his sons failing media company that made the revenue gap even possible ESPN was slated to take full control of the Acc but the back door deals in the Acc caused all this and thanks to Fsu called them out on it look it up Jon swofford and raycom dude helped his kids company stay afloat when they were about to go bankrupt and made it so they had to partner with ESPN and raycom splitting all the revenue
Why should schools in the B1G and SEC share their pie with FSU and Clemson? Adding them to the B1G would add to the pie, but by how much? Fox has said they are done till 2030, so who buys up the extra games and realistically they will be last in line getting to pick games every week, so they won't get any marquee matchups to watch on whatever platform that is Apple TV or something else. The money from that might be enough for a couple schools taking partial shares till 2030. There just isn't much money left to go around for the B1G if Fox is tapped out. ESPN on the other hand will be getting out of the ACC media deal, so they will have extra cash to fund 2-4 teams into the SEC, depending on if they full shares 2 teams, half shares could get 4 teams. Then ESPN could toss the big12 a few bucks to take a few ACC leftovers.
@@troywest7045 if fsu joined the b10 right now we’d be the 2nd or 3rd best team in that conference no question our brand is bigger than all those schools except Osu and maybe Michigan it took them 50+ years to win another natty so they aren’t that relevant in these last decades tbh and Clemson would fit right in, in the sec if you think schools like vandy and Kentucky and all those other shitty sec teams who haven’t ever done anything are better than Clemson or fsu you are high sir
Miami, Miami fans make it make sense. Why vote that way..ACC had the votes anyway with VA and VT. Why?
You can’t make it make sense. The only logical conclusion is they are terrified of being left out of P2. They shouldn’t be. They may have to eat a discount temporarily, but they damn sure would find a home. They don’t have confidence in themselves
@CFBAddiction I have to believe that after the caste system that was codified last week with the revenue distribution, they all have to know better now. Also, because past performance in the CFP was used as way to measure that, Clemson's value immediately jumped for when they recalculate it in a couple of yrs...the power 2 would love to add that to their boat in the next distribution allocation.
They don’t have a landing spot is my guess
Let nc state run in a c c
UNC is a bigger brand than FSU and Clemson combined. Not in football success but in everything else that matters to any conference. AAU money trumps college football. AAU money makes college football money seem like peanuts.
As much as that’s true, football is still the main reason for the realignments.
Define your terms. They sell less merchandise, have less viewers, their athletics bring in less money…. What type of brand are you talking about? I’m sure they do some things better than FSU with academics/research, but so does Harvard/Yale. The realm we are debating is sports.
None of that helped Stanford get into the B1G.
It will be interesting to see how everyone rationalizes that it's OK for Clemson to file suit against the ACC but FSU are still a bunch of whiners and crybabies.
Clemson didnt go and be extremely vocal about it publicly for years. Whether you think thats good or bad, thats a key difference.
@@bleachorangeThe FSU BOT did everything they HAD to in accordance with the state's Sunshine Law. You may call it whining or being vocal but that is because you lack the knowledge of Florida law.
@@bleachorange they just waited on the coattails...classy
@@bleachorange are you talking about Florida's public records law that requires all meetings of FSUs board of regents to be public?
ACC signed their death warrant when they give in to Big Ten & SEC playoffs money
Not really, they understood that if the SEC and B1G broke away in college football, the left behind institutions would not be able to garner anything close to what they’re getting even at the lesser amounts by staying with the B1G and SEC. It wasn’t even a choice really.
SEC, SEC, SEC
Why don’t you just take the the 5 best teams from both the SEC & Big 10 and form a professional football 🏈 league.
That's what will eventually happen, there will only be 30 or 40 College teams going for the National title, much like the NFL, all the other college teams will be on a lower division and many may cease to exist.
@@chrisoakley5830 don’t tell the division 2 and division 3 schools they’re going to cease to exist. They’ll be devastated. Seriously, no one is going to cease to exist in college football. It is more realistic to expect another division . We’ll still be able to watch our favorite schools compete in football at whatever level they compete in.
Well this’ll just be two main football conferences and three basketball conferences now. Sorry big 12 but you’re just not good enough anymore to be considered a power 3 football conference if you don’t land a top acc school, which you wont. Sec will get the best football, big ten will take the best academics.
but but but UNC is the most valuable team available! lol
Notre Dame says hello.
@@davidbrown386 Supposedly Notre Dame isn’t available nor are they a member of the ACC conference for football. Independent in football.
I’m not familiar with anyone at UNC saying they’re the best team except maybe for basketball. They do have an iconic brand as the Tar Heels but it isn’t tied to football but rather their University, basketball and their athletic program as a whole. Top notch. Looking forward to seeing them join the SEC if and when they leave the ACC.
UNC is not that valuable tho. They are literally the most overrated college football school I've ever seen
... a better chance...
Do you have doubts about the FSU case?😂😂😂
Let me help you out. FSU against the world? (D)uck the world.
Go Noles!
Let's Go!
FANS OF FSU AND CLEMSON WILL BE PAYING OUT OF THERE POCKET FOR YEARS TO COME TO PAY FOR THESE LAWSUITS.
keep hoping in all caps
Again, all the ACC schools who trashed Maryland for leaving and joining the Big 10…. How do you like Maryland now
well, they still dont have good shrimp and grits, so i say about the same.
@@bleachorangeNo but they have excellent crab cakes.
Still not relevant
Why does everyone think the destruction of another conference is good for college football?
Because it sucks watching teams get destroyed, when you paid a fortune for season tickets. The sport is clearly unfair, as it stands today. Making the top division smaller is long overdue.
@@Tijuanabill buddy. FSU has boarderline been a loosing team since Jimbo left, save the past two years. Let’s take a step back for a second before we start proclaiming dominance year over year.
@@jonathonjustice7574 Buddy, the success FSU has had over the past 30+ years speaks volumes except for the few years between Jimbo to Norvel. Let’s take a step back for a second before we start proclaiming FSU a borderline losing team .
@@marcjohnson8488 they’ve lost 40% of their conference games over the past decade. I’m just pointing out that they aren’t “destroying” everyone year after year.
Why do people like you think fans and their schools should put the well being of a conference that clearly doesn’t give a shit about its biggest brands above their own? Maybe blame ESPN that enabled this situation to begin with. Maybe ask them why it’s good for the game to have one conference’s teams collecting $500 million more over the next 10 years than another conference. Why should ACC teams and others for that matter be at such a competitive disadvantage?
ONLY REASON CLEMSON IS NOW INVOLVED, FSU WAS LOSING THERE LAWSUIT . AS OF TODAY ANY ACC TEAM THAT LEAVES BEFORE 2027 WILL PAY THE $500 MILLION
Lol wrong
Wait wait I thought it was 2036....keep shouting at no one troll
I smell the tears of the “leftovers”
I'll be interested to see how Clemson and FSU do in their new conference. I don't think Clemson like Oklahoma will fair well but FSU like Texas will do well. I think alot of teams will end up kind of like Maryland i.e. of irrelevant
CLEMSON took down undefeated ALABAMA twice while in the ACC. A new conference would only mean better recruits.
Are you talking about the same Clemson that has beaten more teams in the playoffs than any other team but Bama? That includes beating Oklahoma twice, Ohio State twice, Bama twice, Notre Dame and more.
Lol
Clemson will do fine and Maryland has always been irrelevant. I’m an FSU fan btw.
@@babywantsbling2109 Maryland has more ACC titles than any other school except for Clemson and Florida State. The irony is it was the Basketball that made the Football team irrelevant.
As usual, the media manipulates the zealot fans. At what point will you realize that fans dropped from the pool will refuse to watch the new small pool (an NFL size team pool) product?
G5 route will always exist, so everyone will have a path. The national championship game gets plenty of non fan of team viewers.
Courts will combine the lawsuits. Everything will gum up the works...still ESPN hold the Joker card.
See a lot of Nole fans being douchebags at Clemson fans, just stop and take the WW.
100%
Clemson stinks dabo is really not a good coach
Every school knew what was in the contract and what it meant if they wanted to leave. They all signed on the dotted line. Cry me a river.
WE THANK YOU CLEMSON ON BEHALF OF NOLE NATION🍢🔥