Dell 3880: How to Change Boot Order, Ask Max!
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- Опубликовано: 15 июл 2024
- Turns out that Dell made it a little odd, but ultimately easier, to change the boot order of their newer machines. If you're trying to figure out how to get your Dell to boot off of USB or an optical disc, this video is for you!
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Thank you, this is exactly what I was looking for and explained so clearly.
I'm glad I could help! 👍
Thank you so much man. For some reason they made the UEFI interface so much different from what you typically find in normal BIOSes.
You're very welcome. I'm glad I could help you out!
The first time into the bios you did not have all those boot devices, the second time you did, but you left out how to made them appear, for me the most important part of the video!
It's been awhile, but I thought I said so in the video it doesn't show the devices until they're actually plugged in. They may also need to be bootable before being visible.
I've also since updated my firmware (which I believe resolved some of these issues) so I can't confirm again.
@@TheBrokenLife Okay, that makes sense, I don't have anything though? No DVD, NIC nothing. These Dell BIOS are complicated. I did notice in Legacy there were more options there, but when in UEFI there were none. I'm not on the same pc, but was looking for someone else and my pc is quite similar in the BIOS, Dell Optiplex 3040. Thanks.
@@k-bob6195 Those options may populate if you put bootable media in them.
I've noticed what I suspect is a lot of people with dissimilar models finding this video. I would have never in a million years guessed so many people would have boot order issues with their Dells, but I guess so.
Good luck with it! 👍
🎉 that is really helpful🎉
Bc of these videos you inspired me to upgrade my old dell Inspiron, works now like I bought it a year ago👌🏼
Awesome! I'm glad I could be of help to you!
Thanks for getting this us so quickly! I'm accustomed to fiddling around HP systems I never considered that would a potential issue. I managed to get my Recovery USB detected but CD is still not visible. Either my system has a wonky disc drive or the disc itself is to blame. I'll report back after swapping out some parts.
No problem. I had a few hours I could burn today so your timing was good for me to get to it quickly.
Are you sure the CD you have is bootable? It's been awhile, but the only utilities I've seen that require a bootable PE would generally be used for recovery of the primary partitions. For drive cloning that shouldn't be necessary, but I suppose it depends on whatever the vendor of your hardware thought was best. If you happen to have a Seagate drive installed in it (mine came from Dell with one) you can also use Seagate Discwizard for cloning. I used that process on my Dad's Dell 3671 and there's a video on the channel covering the process.
@@TheBrokenLife My SSD came with cloning software on a bootable disc. I've used it many times on various HP systems, this Dell is the first time I've gotten any issue with it. I just finished swapping in another disc drive and even using an external USB disc drive and still no luck. I went back to to my old HP and the disc is detected but getting a boot error. So bad disc is bad, I guess. My 3880 is sporting a WD Blue. I guess it's time to hunt for some cloning freeware.
@@deny417 I think WD also offers Discwizard under their brand as well. The actual software is written by Acronis and various companies license it out.
If that fails, you can connect any Seagate, Maxtor, or Samsung drive to the system (USB or otherwise) and Seagate's version will work.
@@TheBrokenLife Actually my cloning disc is Acronis. I'll look into WD software as well.
On a different note, I got Bliss OS 11.13 running via live USB and it seems stable in case anyone else wanted to try doing so.
@@deny417 Awesome! The other flavors will look very familiar to you then.
I've never heard of BlissOS before. It looks interesting as I do generally prefer a PC format for most things and I'm not really a a device guy.
Your video is great regarding changing Lee Burt order for a Dell Inspiron 3880. However I have followed all of your instructions and my bootable external drive that is plugged into the USB port is not recognized in the boot sequence. I have tried all of your suggestions in the comments, and I have also looked up the problem elsewhere. They are saying that the 3880 does not support changing the boot order. Is that true or is there anything else you can suggest?
Thanks!
There have been a few firmware revisions since I made that video, but I can't imagine that selecting the boot order is no longer an option. As I recall, your device must be recognized and bootable or it won't even give you the menu. Are you positive your USB stick is bootable? Can you try it in another system and see if it works?
Hi man ,thanks for all info.even I have dellminspron 3880.which GPU is suitable for it ??
Any low profile graphics card will work. I have a nvidia low profile gt 1030 for my Inspiron 3880. I would wait until amazon or a reputable retailer has them in stock and is directly selling the GPU you want or else you could get scammed or you would have to pay a higher price for the GPU you want.
Man you really love your dell 3880 don't you?
It's alright for the price. I honestly have no firm opinion of it one way or the other. I'd really like to explore some of the offerings from HP, Lenovo, etc as well.
Are you making another dell 3880 video any time soon? And what will it be
Probably in the next 1-2 weeks and I will likely be demoing some games people have asked about on it.
Nice
Thanks!
What part will I need to change the cabinet please reply 🥺
A case, PSU, and motherboard.
Sir i did bios default setting in boot sequence and my windows boot manager was wiped out.. what should i do please explain
That really shouldn't have effected Windows. You can attempt to boot from a Windows USB device and repair your installation.
last doubt.i want to stream games .i have 8 gb of ram.should i got with another 8gb of ram or should i take gta 1050/1050ti..........waiting for u r reply.thank u
This is not a gaming PC. I suggest you look more closely into other series of Dells, like the G series.
Max: you could do a video on installing Ubuntu on the Dell 3880
I could, but I may be the least qualified person to do it since I have no Linux experience at all. Could be fun, could be tragic!
I think the next video on it is going to be to demo a few games people have asked about repeatedly. Then it's PSU time regardless of market prices.
Brother but in my PC the Harddrive is not showing in the boot sequence order kindly help me any one
Same did you find a fix?
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thunk you
i have same problem with del vostro3888
i have msg: no boot device
help me please
You're welcome! 👍
I'm having an issue with rebooten a Dell Optiplex pc. I have a 10GB network card connected to the back. If I reboot the PC, it won't come back up unless I remove that 10GB cable from the back. So after reboot I have to unplug it and manually press the off button on the PC.
I'd take a guess that there is a setting either in the card BOIS or Dell BOIS that is related to Boot on LAN that could be causing the issue.
@@TheBrokenLife I have 3 cards connected on the back of the PC. 1GB and 2x10GB . On the boot up sequence I can see all three selected. What happens if I unselect all the network cards and just leave whatever is above the cards ?
@@TheAbrunqaj Oh wow... You have a lot going on there.
I would probably disable/deselect things in every combination possible to see if you can get the error to cease. I've only ever run more than one wired NIC in a PC once and that was over 20 years ago, so... I'm not very knowledgeable on the topic.
Speaking of things I haven't thought about in ages, you could also have an IRQ issue of some kind with that many cards in the machine. Windows, at least since around XP, has been pretty good about handling all of that and sorting it out on its own, but every now and then it gets it wrong. You could try moving your cards to different slots (and removing your wifi card since it sounds like you're probably not using it) and see if anything changes. Normally I would expect an IRQ issue to be a problem all of the time and not just at boot up, but, who knows? Good luck! 👍
I have problems to where it says, “No bootable devices found.” Do you know what happen and how can I fix it?
Have you tried your bootable media in another PC?
I’ve found out the small chip of SSD contains both bios and booting devices, but idk how to transfer those into the USB in order to switch into Samsung.
@@JimmyNGX I've never heard of physical media containing BIOS information. By definition, BIOS pretty much has to be a chip somewhere else.
It's the:
B - asic
I - nput
O - utput
S - ystem
The BIOS is what defines access to to all I/O functions, including all available disks (your SSD is still a "disk"). Think of it like map you use to plan a journey. It shows you all of the places you can go, but you need roads and vehicle to get there. In this case, I'd call your SSD the vehicle. The bus and the rest of the chipset would be more like the roads.
Anyhow... I suspect what might be happening is you could have a device with multiple partitions, with one being a bootable partition, but it's not being cloned for whatever reason. Since you have a Samsung drive, the Samsung utility (I think it's called Samsung Magician?) is the easiest way to clone the entire contents over. You'll just need a way to connect your old boot drive and your Samsung drive to the system at the same time.
Hi, I am having an issue lately which is when i enter the USB option it simply goes on starting the window which is already installed on the hard drive
Double check that your boot media is actually bootable. Try it in another machine if you can.
I am actually having a reoccurring crisis that’s turned into a nightmare because I can’t stop a corrupted firmware update. I have entered bios by repeatedly hitting F2 on my keyboard for my dell optiplex 3000 system when turning it on after having to unplug it from power to stop the update failure from staying at 0% for 12 hours or indefinitely if I let it. It was a brand new system as of 07/2022. Can you please help me get this fixed? I have gone into bios and unchecked UEFI as an option to boot from to detect where the issue is stemming and of course what I have found after over an hour of troubleshooting is that the windows 11 23H2 update is corrupted and I can not get it to stop trying to update. I have deselected auto updates altogether. Its freaking insane they won’t let me decide how to secure my computer and they have no fix that I can find for this so called critical update so I’m basically stuck forcing delayed updates and not shutting down my computer at all because if I even try to restart it triggers that stupid update again and this starts all over.
I'm a little confused about what's going on. I'm going to try to break things out into steps.
1 - Normally a firmware update failure would result in the entire machine being dead. As in: you wouldn't be able to enter the BIOS settings and change them (that's what the firmware is). Are you still able to enter the BIOS by hitting F2 and change your settings at will? If so, this doesn't sound like a firmware issue... which is good news.
2 - This sounds more like a Windows update issue. It sounds like you're able to run Windows pretty much normally as long as you don't reboot? If so...
3 - Back up any critical data on your PC immediately. Pictures, files, browser profiles, whatever.
4 - Create a "Windows Installation Media" (search for exactly that and you find a Microsoft article along with the require links) USB stick. If you create that stick successfully, it will be bootable so all you should really need to do is put it in the USB port, turn your PC on, and Windows will guide you through the process of getting it to repair itself. If you're really lucky, you may ever have a restore point set that you can roll back to.
5 - If Windows _can't_ fix itself, that same stick will allow you to create an entirely new installation of Windows, which is why step 3 is important. You normally can tell it to just install Windows again without effecting your files, but you never know how that is going to work out and I personally prefer a fresh start from zero. Again, make sure you cover step 3 thoroughly.
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There are other ways to repair failed Windows updates, but I find that it's usually easier to just let Windows repair itself or start over. Especially when it comes to the "big" updates like 23H2. For what it's worth, I've only encountered this situation a handful of times over the years. It's nothing to do with 23H2 specifically and I generally encourage people to allow Windows update to run as intended.
Good luck with it. 👍
Will you be upgrading the video card?
Eventually. Prices are too inflated right now for me to want to buy one. I'm guessing that CPU and PSU will be coming first.
@@TheBrokenLife Looks like there may not be any other option for a PSU other than a 260W Dell. I have had really great experiences with Corsair PSU's.
@@95SLE There are a few other options, with a couple of them being a bit inelegant. I'm also a fan of Corsair products.
I reviewed this video again and it helped me verify the reliability of a disc copy to a HDD I made yesterday. What a difference, so much slower, than the 256 GB SDD drive. Next up is to insert the 1TB SDD into the M.2 slot and close the HDD back to the SDD. I wanted to upgrade to a larger SDD. Your videos are a blessing for a 3880 owner.
@@95SLE Oddly, that upgrade is becoming a hot topic lately. You're the third person in a week to mention swapping out to a larger SSD. If I hadn't just spent $800 on 3880 videos, I'd already have an SSD -> bigger SSD video in the pipe line.
I absolutely can confirm that the HDD performance is _abysmal._
...and, I'm glad you're finding the videos useful!
Do you have a discord server? If you do, what is the invite link?
I don't, but it's come up once or twice and is something I should probably look into. As weird as it may sound, I'm really not much of a social media guy so a lot of that stuff is pretty foreign to me.
What if I chose the USB boot but then it appears that I have to type an admin password? And I don't have it. My laptop is locked and I was trying to unlock it with ruphus and Winpe ISO. Btw thanks for the video.
Oh dear... You're probably up a creek in that circumstance. You probably need to consult the manufacturer and see what they suggest. If it's an older laptop (like... 10 years or more) you may still have an internal CMOS battery that can be disconnected which will wipe the BIOS password. If not... I really don't know.
...I'm also assuming you have tried the most general and basic passwords? Like Admin, Administrator, Admin1, Dell, HP, Password, etc, etc..?
How much ram does it supports
64GB
@@TheBrokenLife can I use 3200 mhz ram sir
@@johnnyyt9412 I believe it will accept it, but you may not need it based on whatever processor you have. You may want to take a look at the Dell's 3880 specifications page to see what you'd need based on whatever configuration. You can look up what it came with based on your service tag number.
Hi. Got optiplex 3080 but bootable usb is not showing in bios
I'm not familiar with the 3080, but on my 3880 the option will not populate unless the drive is plugged in and is bootable.
@@TheBrokenLife thank you for your response. I've tried it on other pc and laptop and usb is showing. I just dont know why it is not showing in dell
@@paulinosa6414 As a last ditch resort, you might check to see if there is a newer firmware available for your Dell and see if that helps.
@@TheBrokenLife thanks man. Will try that. It sucks that legacy boot is gone. Thanks again
@@paulinosa6414 You're welcome. Good luck with it!
Can I use gt 1030 here
A 1030 is a factory option from Dell so it should be supported by the hardware. Whether or not you have enough PSU to run one will be up to whatever Dell put in your specific model.
Which GPU can we use
I've heard reports that the GTX 1050 works well. Due to the current inflated costs, I'm sitting out the GPU upgrade for the time being so I can't say for certain.
Basically anything that pulls 75W max and without external PCIe power connectors. Speaking about GTX1050/1050Ti/1650 and the like. Going for higher ones should be possible but a power supply upgrade (which is tedious due to proprietary pinouts) will be required since the original one has no PCIe connector and not enough wattage, and the card's length is limited by the chassis.
@@TheBrokenLife thanks bro it was really helpful
@@PlyrStar93 You can upgrade to a sfx power supply like the corsair sf750 and get a 24 pin to 6 pin adapter and screw only the 1 screw that aligns and make sure you put the fan up and not down because there is no airflow on the bottom and installing a psu with the fan down may make it overheat when the fan has to spin. The power supply I got was a Corsair SF750 fully modular 80 plus platinum on amazon and installed it with the fan up and only put 1 screw on the middle left because that's the only screw that aligns and got a 24 pin to 6 pin adapter on moddiy: www.moddiy.com/products/Dell-OptiPlex-3040-3050-3060-Main-Power-24-Pin-to-6-Pin-Adapter-Cable.html . So 1st connect all the modular cables like 24 pin, cpu, pcie, sata or molex, then connect the 24 pin to the 24 pin to 6 pin adapter and the 6 pin to the motherboard, then the cpu power on the motherboard is 4 pin to split the 8 pin into 2 and connect the 4 pin to the motherboard, then you can connect the pcie, sata or molex to the power supply (I only connected 1 motherboard power, 1 cpu power, 1 pcie power for my gpu which is a 1650 super)
Can I use gtx 1050 ti in it
That's the card I intended to try. They're still 300% marked up.
@@TheBrokenLife waiting for ur video sir 💖
@@johnnyyt9412 Me too... I keep trying to find a bargain on one, and prices are still slipping, but not far enough yet.
My boot sequence only shows “windows boot manager”. It doesn’t show my usb or ssd ?
I think your SSD _is_ Windows Boot Manager. USB devices, at least a long time ago the last time I tried it, won't appear unless they are genuinely bootable. Try your media in another machine if you can to verify that it's configured properly.
@@TheBrokenLife well. The image given to me on a usb of windows was NOT configured properly I didn’t think to even check that, want something right do it yourself lol. downloaded a fresh copy to a usb then had to change in bios to legacy from ueifi then I was able to pick usb boot priority sequence
@@mrgadget5845 Good deal! 👍
There's no bios legacy?
Just what you see. I think Dell has updated the firmware since I made this video though.
@@TheBrokenLife bios legacy older than firmware so I don't think they will update to older version
what if the usb doesnt show up when i start up the computer
I think I showed that in the video? If I remember correctly, it won't show up unless a device is plugged in first (and possibly that device may need to be bootable).
@@TheBrokenLife Yea you did show that, and I did try it, but still didn't show up. I'm thinking it has something to do with being an iso file.....maybe???? I recreated the windows image with Windows media creator and it worked. But the image i created from a file with rufus would not recognize
@@michaelgriffin5257 If it was just a raw ISO, then I can see why it wouldn't work, but if you made bootable media with Rufus I would think it would have done something? Weird problem for sure.
@@TheBrokenLife so come to find out, there was something wrong with the initial image. I got a new one and it worked fine...thanks for the feedback though for sure
@@michaelgriffin5257 You're welcome! Glad it worked out!
This does illustrate why it's goofy that Dell doesn't even show it as an option unless it's bootable though.
This looked like a one-time boot device selection? What if you want to permanently change the boot order?
I think the one-time boot menu options (what you get when you first hit F12) are indeed, one time. If you go into the BIOS settings and change the boot order there, _I think_ it's permanent.
It may remove, or reorder, those devices if they're not present since it can't "see" them (they're not even listed as options when they're not installed), but if you wanted to _always_ boot off of one drive or another, and you _always_ have that drive installed, I would imagine it would do it.
@@TheBrokenLife When I go to the bios the UEFI seems to show a list of drives with WIndows Boot Manager at the top of the list. To me this seems to imply that Windows Boot Manager should be allowed to select the disk -- but I don't see how to accomplish that.
@@davejoseph5615 I think Windows Boot Manager is capable of that, but I think it's more commonly used for people that want to enable dual boot on the same disk. It sounds like what you want to do is boot from individual disks. I would suspect if you have 2 bootable devices installed that the BIOS would see them both and allow you to reorder them.
Do you have 2 bootable devices installed and it's refusing to permanently alter the boot order? If so, what happens if you disable UEFI boot? Same thing? Does each bootable device boot on its own when the other is removed from the system?
@@TheBrokenLife I used Macrium Free to clone the HD onto the SSD but I have not tried to remove the HD from the system. I don't see videos describing how to set boot order in Windows Boot Manager.
@@davejoseph5615 Remove the HDD and see if it will boot from the SSD if that's where you want it to boot in the long run. That will verify that it _can_ boot from the SSD.
I may have misspoken... WBM will allowing booting to installations that are not Windows. I'm not sure if it will control default, but I think you can.
Why i don't have ssd In boot change i have one in my PC
It's most likely not bootable. You need to have it configured with some sort of OS that boots before you will see it in the order.
@@TheBrokenLife Ok, how do I make it booted by the system?
@@mto.45 What operating system do you have installed on it?