DEBATE: Who MUST Win The Premier League?
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Rory seemed genuinely annoyed Buvey was going for his underdog gimmick🤣
Well it is annoying. They’re head and shoulders above the rest of the competition and they know that, but for some reason Buvey is trying to play the underdog game lol.
It is annoying
@@skyrimplayer2335no we're not
@@shrimpe2876the team that’s just won a treble and 4 leagues in 5 years and still has pep haaland and kdb isn’t favourites una 😭😭
@lizzy6333 based on how we've played so far this season we aren't up to that level. I'm not saying it's impossible, if anyone can turn it on at the right time it's them. But I expected more out of the liverpool game. If we don't beat arsenal I think it's a real hard sell
Every video is Buvey trying not to jinx City
Fuck me I’m glad someone’s noticed this
Yeah he does this with England too
also a defense mechanism, if they end up not winning the league he can say he knew it all along and look like he knows what he’s talking about, if they win well then good for him they won and "proved him wrong", win win for him
@@InfiniteSkater2497the bindippers and the bottlers keep saying they'll win everything every year, how did that turn out?
"We're third!×3"a lunt behind with 10 hands to vote, wow so far behind
Rory saying March is too early to say a team will win the league.. he does it every week
Literally every week he does it. He’s such a bell sniff
@@tevildo45well its hardly too early really is it m8 I can certainly name 17 clubs who will not win the prem🤣 but I know what you mean re rory jennings this is the bloke who predicted haaland to be a flop signing for city tho🤣
He’s probably the stupidest person I’ve ever seen. He’s very articulate and eloquent which makes him seem smart but he’s so fucking dumb.
😂
Weird to have this debate without fans from two of the teams involved?
they cant stand liverpool
@@joemakepeace6652 I can’t stand Liverpool, a fan should still be there tho🤣
Would it not make more sense it then removes all bias ?
@@Hughie-eater111the bias is just reversed got spurs and United fans talking bout their biggest rivals
Should have an Arsenal & Liverpool fan. Except that 1 token Arsenal fan who does not fit this group and his takes are terrible to see as an Arsenal fan
Buvey must be right, nobody has ever overturned a one point deficit with 10 games to go...🙄
No arsenal and liverpool fan to have their say, poor
Makes no sense at all, they’ve got the spurs and United fan discussing it though 😂😂
If you put a Liverpool or arsenal fan there they’ll just say they are going to win the league this way it removes all bias
@@Hughie-eater111or they will give genuine reasons why they think they would win? Not just some rubbish hope from rivals 😂
@@kintib7606 Adam a United fan said Liverpool will win it did you watch it at all ?
@@kintib7606 we all know the reasons why the top 3 might win it there’s no need for an annoying arsenal/Liverpool fan to shove it down our necks even more
Buvey not caving into pressure and getting a pint of Guinness is brilliant
A Guinness in that glass is blasphemy
Nice change of pace to be honest where he wouldn’t shut the fuck up about them every video
That spurs fan is another level of delusional 😭😭😭 spurs in the title race? Give it a rest mate
He said he thinks they could nick a top 3 spot. I disagree with Flav aswell, Spurs won't get top 3 but you can easily finish 3rd and not be in a title race. Heck we've(Utd) finished 2nd and not be in a title race.
The gameweek and the gap from the leaders determines the title race.
“If we beat Liverpool, City and Arsenal then who knows”😂😂😂😂
In case you weren't listenting, he never said Spurs could win the title. All he said was it's possible they could sneak into the top 3.
Flav is the GOAT of online fans. He always says ridiculous things but its a bit beneath the belt, he always kind of knows how ridiculous hes being
That's what the spuds are most well known for, delusion ! It's definitely not trophies 😅
Specky bloke in the Ralph Lauren jumper talks a lot of sense would be good to have him on more
Yeah he’s about the only one that does haha
Does he f*ck. Talking about spanking teams like Sheffield United 6-0 wins you titles?!
No it's the "scrappy, shaky" 1-0's he described that actually win titles.
Poor production for not having Arsenal and Liverpool reps.
spurs are closer than you think? theyre 11 points behind you spaceman
You think that's close? They're not even getting top 4 😅
Spud boys eaten too much spudding
As a Man United fan I REALLY want Arsenal to win. If City win they get 4 in a row and beat our record, if Liverpool win they equal us on 20 League titles, and I don't want either of those to happen.
Agree, Arsenal are the lesser of 3 evils
If arsenal win, they would troll united like crazy, already sang old trafford falling down, without winning anything. Imagine what will they do when they actually win the league.
City have been consistent and isnt as noisy as arsenal or liverpool.
@@wahidj4773 let them make noise, it doesn't matter. What matters is making sure no one matches United's records and achievements. If they sing Old Trafford is falling down, sing "stand up if you've won the treble" or "stand up if you've won the most Premier League titles" back at them.
Noise can be ignored. Records can't.
@@kw8263Man City winning 4 in a row and a treble would make the best prem side ever ahead of Man Utd 1999-2001. Liverpool winning the league and making it 20 league titles would also be painful for you guys. You’re right though, Arsenal are the lesser of the three evils despite their annoying fanbase.
Flav is on coke if he thinks they getting top 3.
He usually is. Dudes a melt
That lad in the hat asking questions instead of just saying “you’re wrong” is refreshing.
That’s spraggy, fun poker streamer and pretty funny imo. If you like poker you’ll like his stuff. Dunno why I’m going round advocating for him but seems like a decent guy😅
he is great
The guy with a hat looks like Boris Johnson no cap
When he takes off the cap I’ll agree
always thought he looks like de bruyne
But he is wearing a cap
Everyone is sleeping on Arsenal. Good.
People are literally sleeping on Liverpool wyoab mate😂😂😂😂😂, arsenal are the favourites.
@@jackjohnson156 wyoab is the worst abbreviation I’ve ever seen, just learn to spell kid.
A video about the premier league title race without an Arsenal or Liverpool representative…
Starting to realise a lot of rival fans cuck up to city and liverpool because their teams can't compete. I'm more objective when measuring City and Liverpool now as an Arsenal fan because we can actually compete with them and Buvey is right. City have dropped off slightly, they didn't have their best summer or winter transfer windows.
Facts, then they always look at things that have happened in the past and not what’s happening right in front of them.
This is true. Arsenal are a great team and they’ve proven that this season. They won’t crumble. They do have a very hard run in tho and I think that could be where they lose it but they’re a serious team for sure.
10:58 in what universe were Arsenal ‘strong favourites’ for top 4?! 😂 the year we finished 5th most people thought we wouldn’t get Europe and the year we finished 2nd most people thought we wouldn’t get top 4 😂
We actually over performed our expectations in both seasons so significantly that we were almost on a whole mother level. To say that we were perennial bottle jobs is an exaggeration.
@@dakaraindoro8346 exactly, I understand that we put ourselves in a good position for top 4/ to win the title but let’s not act like it was massive failures we didn’t achieve either when at the start of each season we were expected to be miles away from both goals.
Just typical moving the goalposts from rival fans
@@Enigma_FN Yeah, it’s really frustrating really. Like I feel like the idiot. All the underlying stats say Arsenal is the best team (not by much over city but a decent amount over Liverpool & it’s been 28 games). When I watch games Arsenal is consistently performing and the best. (City does too but they have been less consistent) So I see all this but the narrative is exactly the same as it was in 2013 “oh Arsenal play nice football but have a soft underbelly”. Like are you not paying attention or do you just not know football.
I will say this, if Arsenal have another great transfer window, City continue to make poor signings and not move on from their ageing starts & Liverpool get the manager appointment wrong we will enter an era of football where Arsenal is the second best team in Europe to Real Madrid and everyone is unaware of the clear trends.
(Bayern & PSG are in transition, Barca & The Italian teams have Finacial constraints).
Hes saying when it was in your hands during the season you were favourites for top 4 and then bottled it.
@@oscardolloway1885your deluded bro😂
The argument of "we cant be favourite since we're third" doesnt really make sense, they're third... sure, but only one point behind first
What pains me about Arsenal is that Arteta might have fixed Kai. Imagine if he had gotten his hands on Mudryk, thank God he didn’t.
City fans trying the underdog ginmick is so boring and unimaginative.
So we should be delusional like the dippers and bottlers that apparently win everything every season 😂
@@DavidRegaL-lw5xz no, but he's literally said "it's over we're third how are we going to win from third". And the irony that you're calling them the bottlers but think they're stronger favourites than you.
@@DavidRegaL-lw5xzYou would not be delusional though, I think City is winning prem this season still. Most people believe that. You just sound scared. Which is embarrassing
Just like Arteta and Klopp crying along with their fans with "us against them" narratives after a bad call or Klopp's farewell tour so they "play for him". Like stfu
Buvey’s shithousery ruined the video lol
The Spurs fan who would give up CL just to stop Arsenal winning the league? That is genuinely tragic! 🤣
Any Spurs fan would.
Tbf when spurs was in UCL final and arsenal was in UEL final. I was asked if I would give up the UEL cup if it meant spurs would lose the UCL. I said yes unashamedly
Plus if spurs did win the champions League, it would be game over for arsenal
Of course they would. That Spurs team wouldn't get out of the group anyway
Because Arsenal fans wouldn't stop talking about it for the next ten years.Such an annoying fanbase
@@jacobeloi1125 There's more chance of Del Piero growing out of my armpit
You can tell this video was recorded over a week before it was released as there's no way that Spurs fan would be talking about breaking into the top 3 after losing 3-0 to Fulham.
These lot do realise the Liverpool injury crisis is over right. They’ve got a lot of players coming back over the international break, Post international break only alisson, jota and Trent will be out. Trent will be back by the second game week after the break is over with alisson and jota expected back midway through April
Not Financial Doping FC. Also why is there a Spurs fan there but no Arsenal or Liverpool fans?
Chelsea and united have no right either tbh. Also 2 of these kids I've never even seen surely logic would dictate having fans from the teams in the debate. Poor showing this no wonder Buvey just took the piss rather than a serious conversation.
Not bottlers that's for sure😂
@brettpearce8843 is your name actually Brett?!
Genuine 3 horse race: 2013/14 between Chelsea, Liverpool and City. When Stevie G slipped 😅
Even Arsenal mixed up there at times. Think that season holds the record for the most changes at the top of the table in a single season?
People say Arsenal fans are insufferable just because we rate our team after years of being shit for being able to go toe to toe with a treble winning City but you have Spurs fans thinking they can still win the league?! Give me a break 🤣
"If you're gonna spend 70 million on a player, you get a better player than Kai Havertz." Like Fofana? Caicedo? Mudryk?
The answer is probably Liverpool because Klopp is leaving. City have been so dominant that it doesn't matter that much if they don't win it. Arsenal is on an upwards trajectory and will probably become even better next season.
These guys have spent 40 minutes outlining why Arsenal have no right to win the league yet when they don't win it they will still declare it an unmitigated disaster and in inexplicable failure..
Man as an arsenal fan. We’ve been shit last 20 yrs, I remember(we won FA Cup here and there) but always capitulated when it comes to reality.
But I’ve never understood this banter with Arsenal ONLY!
Liverpool have lost 5 points lead this season yet nobody mentions it. Imagine if that was Arsenal 🤣.
Why hate on the under dogs (arsenal are the underdogs here)? These 2 juggernaut’s have competed the last couple yrs and we just catching up. When Chelsea completed under Tuchel for 6 months they were praised. Spurs for 10 games were praised. Emery Villa too.
A Spurs fan involved in a league title conversation should be illegal
I like Flav, but my guy actually said Arsenal haven't had any significant injuries this season! 💀 Gabriel Jesus, Partey, Zinchenko, Timber, Tomiyasu, Smith Rowe, Vieira .. all missed either the whole season or multiple months. Come on Flav, pull your head out pal
Viera😂
@@thorodinson7827 Would you not consider someone who played 33 games last season significant?
@@greeneagle1919 with declan rice in my team?
No
@@thorodinson7827 Totally different profiles
Those aren’t significant injuries. That’s light for a premier league season. Mainly squad players and the first team has hardly been affected. Liverpool have been without Alisson Trent Matip Robertson Szoboslai Thiago Jota Salah all for months
Why are these guys always debating the same thing every week 😂
I remember during pre-season predictions last season, the few people saying Arsenal will finish 3rd were ripped into. And I was also disappointed so few people expected they'd finish top 4. Strong favourites for top 4 my ass lmao.
Ton of pressure on both teams this weekend. If Liverpool win, City is basically out of it if they lose, and realistically, Arsenal are done if they lose.
Rory can’t fathom the fact that havertz and Jorghino have been great for arsenal 🤣
my problem with arsenal is that other than saka no one’s consistently scoring, they’re getting goals from all over the pitch it feels like a centre back scores every game and that’s not something u can rely on
As an arsenal fan listening to this panel of arsenal haters it truly brings me joy listening to them squirm
Was this recorded before the fa cup???.....if they saw the way liverpool collapsed against united, these lot would have said that injuries will get to them. Even though I am a liverpool fan, I am worried that that loss might affect us
Buvey "we are out of the title race, we have no chance"
Flav "we are in with a shout of the title race"
This podcast is in the mud.
think something people are ignoring is that if you look at the last ten games over the last 4 seasons klopp has the most points out the 3 managers, which is hugely significant or the run-in
I think we (Liverpool) need to win it the most as klopps leaving but at the start of the season no one predicted us to win… so we should have the least expectations!
Actually, the first time I've seen buvey show respect to other teams , heres the thing anything could happen when the pressure is on regardless of who wins it all 3 teams have been great this season.
Enjoyed this.
Clear cut Arsenal Haters !
Only talking about Arsenal's injuries on the horizon but nothing said about injuries on the horizon to Liverpool and City.
What a SHAM ! SHAM ! SHAM !
They literally mentioned Liverpools injuries, what are you waffling about?
Yes, they did but did not mention injuries upcoming on the horizon ! Selective hearing ! Shame!
Why don’t you EVER have a Liverpool fan on? It’s all the time. Such a cop out to not invite one on. Noticing a pattern with the club.
As a Liverpool fan we shouldn't even be in the mix. At the start of the season I'd have taken 4th. Then the Klopp bombshell, injuries and bad VAR calls but somehow we're joint top 😱 MC are the ones who have the best squad and should be winning it every season so I'd say the pressure will always be on them.
@JaiAnt-bd7xv Well we have the same amount of points as Arsenal, that better for you👍
How these guys have gone through a whole season with Liverpool in a title race and not once had a Liverpool fan on is hilarious
I think it's because Liverpool doesn't have a lot of fans
@@dennisookihhhm maybe you need to think for a bit longer sometimes pal
@@dennisookiah yes because one of the largest teams in the world doesn't have any fans even though Spurs and Villa, who haven't won anything in years have fans on this show...
@@fivestarman5130 its has a considerable following in England, but if you look at the global picture, Liverpool is definitely struggling, it's easier to find a man city fan than a Liverpool fan I most countries, it's not really as big as their English fans think it is lol
@@SHW201 it really isn't that big of a club outside England mate👍
A title debate with a spurs fan and no Arsenal representative. This is like some kind of RUclipsr propagandist piece 😂. I applaud you all and I am pretty sure I hate myself for giving this my time.
Buvey talking like a clown. No Arsenal or Liverpool fan involved. This was a waste of time.
The convo talking about what would happen if Arsenal lose one or two players while Liverpool have had 10+ out since the start of the year 😂
Klopp is not getting nearly enough credit for being joint-top
Looks like they’re tryna recreate the last supper with this one
Rory saying about arsenals away form is funny given we have the best away record currently. Draw at stamford bridge and anfield.
title races with liverpool and city over the years have been decided by 1-2% differences and city have got the better of us most years cus they have that extra depth so where they’d bring gundogen off the bench we’d of brought keita off the bench or milner. Arsenal signing raya to improve on ramsdale by that 5% might not seem necessary but at the end of the season if they win the league by a point or on gd it’ll prove pivotal
Never thought I would see a poker overlap with football. Love spraggy, not the biggest fan of finton though, but grating. But still love the content
Chelsea and United fan talking about who should be winning the league is nuts to me.
Was this filmed with a GoPro?
Having no Arsenal Fan or Liverpool fan in this is insaneeee
An Arsenal fan would say they already have the title sorted.Delusional
@@user-lt4px7ld4uNo they wouldn’t that’s you just hating
Was it 2016? Leicester, Arsenal, and Spurs?
Arsenal fan here, I think our season will be defined by whether we can get Partey in form for 10 games. We have a real shot if thst happens. City game is huge.
City do not look the same without Gundogan. He was immense around this time of the season. pep keeps trying to force Alvarez in the line and now that KDB is back Alvarez should be used as a sub
31:53 Rory wanted to divert attention from Chelsea environment being rightly discussed blamed or questioned. He diverted attention clearly
So City are bottling it according to Buvey, and the rest of the panel think they will win. That took 2 minutes, the rest of the show about Arsenal, though all of them seem to be praying Arsenal don’t win .. 😂
You have a who must win the premier league debate and don't have an arsenal fan or liverpool on...?
Apart from the Arsenal v City game, none of the 3 teams in the race need to be better than the other. They only need to be better than the teams they're facing. Liverpool don't need to be better than Arsenal or City - only the other 10 teams they're playing.
7:38 People often forget that Manchester City, as good as they are, aren't the same team as last season. They had game-changers like Gundogan, Mahrez, and Laporte who could come off the bench and turn a game around. Now, if you look at their bench, they have players like Doku and Kovačić, who, although talented, don't quite have the same impact. Many underestimate the contribution Gundogan and Mahrez made to City's success.
Look at Buvey here 14:39 😂😂😂
This is so brilliant. Buvey comes across as Puppet master. Everyone spent 10m convincing him City will win :P
Why do they keep on inviting him to this
It’s a win win They lose the titles he right. They win the title he’s a happy fan.
It’s literally partly his channel lol how would they not invite him
Early so I haven't watched the video yet I'd just like to say as an arsenal fan of arteta wins the league the year pep and klopp are no longer in it I won't mind.
Like so what if rival fans can say he's not better than klopp or pep all I want is a title.
Not being better than klopp or pep is fine so long as a title eventually happens
Eyyyy spraggy 😂😂 nice to see you on this mate
Letting that Guinness sit there an awful long time lads 🫣
The only team who MUST win the league is Chelsea after spending a billion pound
I think it’s refreshing to see a video on the topic without a Liverpool or Arsenal representative, less biased conversation
I wasn't nervous for Sunday... now I'm not sure we can beat Arsenal, Buveys genuinely got a point, we're not the same team we normally are in March, lots of injuries (cheers Gareth, you melon 👍🏻) players struggling for form... this could be a title decider for Arsenal, 3 points and it could be curtains for us!
City are clear favorites for the league - their the team who have been dominating the PL for years now, City and the underdog tag no longer go hand in hand. No idea who will win the league but it's going to be anexciting, tense and thrilling end to the season.
Draw between City & Arsenal firmly puts Liverpool in the driving seat but I'm not sure I can see them hanging on. I think if City beat Arsenal, they'll claw it back & win the league. Also a good win for utd in the cup against Liverpool but I don't see lightening striking twice when they meet again in the league.
It's not over: Lots of football to be played. I expect City to drop minimum 1-3 points, Liverpool 2-4 points and Arsenal 2-5 points. The problem for Arsenal is: Liverpool and City are capable of winning their remaining matches. I don't have the confidence Arsenal have the mental stamina to do the same. As a Liverpool supporter, I worry more about City in 3rd than Arsenal in 2nd. I was rooting for Arsenal winning at City. But a 0-0 draw was the next best thing.
Was wondering how long before Flav flaps and turns into Ty, won't took long. Title race is on for Nandos FC.
The reason Buvey still sounds arrogant is because we all know its fake humble!!!😂😂
Buvey is only running this underdog gimmick so that if City win the league he can act as if it was a triumph against the odds. He did it about the title win a few seasons ago with the whole "we've done it without a recognised number 9" to make it seem more grandiose
What a waste of a pint from Rory. If you're not going to drink it don't pour it!
Buvey is so rattled🤣🤣Can’t handle the pressure and trying to play the underdog knowing that if City don’t win the league it’s a massive bottle and failure.🤣🤣🤣They should be storming the league every season with the amount of money they’ve spent and cheating they’ve done the biggest sport washing cheats in the history of football
Utd & Chelsea spent more cheated and charged. Neville also predicted City don't win the league
as a liverpool fan man u and villa away are the only games we could drop points in, all the other away games are quite easy and all the home games the crowd will be immense cus there’s like 7 games left of klopp at anfield so we’ll show him as much love as possible and we’ll win every home game. City and arsenal will drop points against eachother hopefully then we’ll get into a flow state to win the league cus there’s only 3 europa league games left now and we’ll probably do what we did against prague and win the first game so convincingly we don’t have to go full strength in the second leg
@JaiAnt-bd7xv don’t act dumb mate, of course we’ll probably drop points in one game unexpectedly other than the 2 i named, we could also win one of the 2 i said we might not. U know there’s such thing as an easier game, and a game that if u want to be winning the league u need to win. Like if i look at man city away vs sheffield united at home, if we get a draw at city we’ll be over the moon whereas if we draw against sheffield it’s like the end of the world cus that should be the easiest game of the season
jorginhos been 'fine' oh my god have a day off if you dont watch the games dont comment, hes been incredible for us
Is Buvey trying to sign the fella next to him as a Haaland Stunt-Double?
As a fellow Cityzen I can understand why Buvey thinks this way. We at the moment can not trust the team like we always do. Haaland and KDB returned from an injury which in scoring they seem they are back but they are not. And we are not dominating enough. Grealish is off aswell. Foden is remarkable tho. Maybe he can keep his form and show up in big games like Arsenal at the weekend and Madrid games. We need proof to believe. Other than few instances in like 5-10 minutes we certainly been off. So it's a three horse race. May the better one win..
The better one won.. We have Pep.
Buvey head reason should be city look flat because of fatigue. All the games from last season and then this season too with the extra games from the CWC and potentially a deep UCL run is the only reason we could say City won’t win it. But it’s still one point, Arsenal or/and could have significant injuries and unfortunate referee calls a lot could still happen 😂
I forgot to add this is Arsenals first potential deep UCL run are the players battle proven for this. To be playing at a top level and smashing teams on a weekend and then having to repeat those performances against Bayern then potentially Madrid or City. Like the points these guys are arguing are so much shit. All I’ll say is Liverpool and City are more battle proven than Arsenal in this regard
Buveys a proper piss take 😂 he makes this show
Start at 10:50 and avoid Buvey talking absolute nonsense again.
Legend
thank you
Wish I'd saw this comment sooner 😫
Needs pinned.
Buvey and 5 other bellends talking about City, Liverpool and Arsenal.
Spurs fan talking about being in the title race after losing 3 nil to Fulham and bottling 4th position. The audacity !
Buvey whether by genius or pure stupidity made the entire group make arguments in favor of city while he remained seated in this “will they,won’t they” position. Wildly entertaining if only to see Rory catch it but be unable to stop himself for falling for it lol
14:40 what's The General G waffling about? Someone check his drink
City are incapable of keeping clean sheets arsenal aren’t Liverpool are slightly too weak imo, arsenal win it sadly.
‘arsenal have only beat west ham in the top half’ the only others were villa yes (we deserved to win that imo) newcastle (we all know about the controversy) and liverpool good draw (even if we got away with a dodgy decision
I understand it’s not that simple, but would have been nice to include an Arsenal and Liverpool fan
Buvey “booking festivals”
Couldn’t be more correct
Creamfields
Boomtown
We are
Park life
Forbidden forest
Something that isnt mentioned is that Liverpool is dealing with injury. City are gonna burn out at some point (3 years of 60+ games is a lot). And Arsenal are getting their full squad back after int break. 10 games to go id take arsenal with the fully fit squad.
But Arsenal have tougher fixtures than Liverpool + They will play 2 huge energy draining games in the CL which might extend to 4.
@@SalehTranslates if you were to tally up all the points of the teams all 3 would have to play, it would only be a few point difference. Sure arsenal have the harder fixture list, but not by much. And with a fully fit squad players like rice saka saliba can rotate out and get rest. Whereas Liverpool dont have that luxury anymore with injuries
@@SalehTranslates Liverpool are also in UEL and since they're "Liverpool" they'll be in the competition til the end. Whiles there no guarantee arsenal will be in UCL long. I do agree we do have more difficulty games, but Liverpool are still dealing with injuries so it evens things out I guess
@@jacobeloi1125 Liverpool can give 60% and still reach the final of the UEL. That’s my point, it evens it out.