What's Bigger Premier League or Champions League? | Fans Ask Questions
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- Опубликовано: 1 апр 2024
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00:46 Fans ask the questions!
00:15 Toney or Watkins for England?
03:15 Do Luton deserve to stay up?
05:15 Would the PL be fairer if the Super League teams left?
11:18 Do Arsenal over-celebrate late winners?
15:08 What does success/failure look like for Man City?
17:37 Should West Ham stick with David Moyes?
18:32 If United and Liverpool could have one player from each squad who would you pick?
22:52 Can Postecoglou win a big trophy playing his way?
24:09 What would be success for England at EURO 2024?
26:09 What would be a success for Klopp in his final season?
28:17 Quick fire questions with paddles
28:38 If Arsenal don't win a trophy will it still be a successful season?
28:51 City & Liverpool is a better rivalry than United & Arsenal?
30:51 Harry Kane should have stayed at Spurs?
31:01 Would Carra would get into the current Liverpool squad?
31:30 Would Gary make the current United XI?
32:04 Would you scrap VAR completely?
32:19 When Pep leaves City will he be classed as the GOAT?
34:32 Is winning the UCL bigger than the PL?
37:55 Who is the better pundit Gary or Jamie?
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What's more important to win Premier League or Champions League? 🤔
To win is more important.
UCL 100%
CL not even a question lol
PL
Depends on the club imo
I can't believe people are even asking if Moyes should stay or go. He won you a trophy and you are 7th in the league. Not 17th!! FFS!!
Another outsider without a clue - what a shock!
@@jamesgunn7enlighten us why then?
Fans are so fickle nowadays. The two most recent losses were very unfortunate for West Ham. They didn't deserve to lose, especially against Newcastle.
@@jamesgunn7 As an outsider looking in, it does appear that West Ham fans are unbelievably demanding.
@@enemywithin1295you tried to say delusional I think. Learn your place West Ham
"Weve set another record, weve made another bit of history" 😂😂 yea you and your 115 charges mate.
jealousy
Don't worry we haven't forgotten what you all did. All your pathetic clubs writing to UEFA "please ban Manchester City 😭, they're too good" finding us all guilty until proven innocent on the last witch hunt when CAS found us innocent with no evidence. Can't do nothing on the pitch, off the pitch so you try and destroy us this way. Trying to take away from our achievements and diminish what we've done..... remember it 🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆
@@TheBrianBurrows must be
haha you have seen no evidence either way yet you are certain of City's guilt. Bet you believe the daily mail and Trump too, hahah.
@Cropsy-yy9wg Candle doesn't burn too brightly in your house mate does it? 115 smoking guns 🤣👍 they'll just go away hey
G. Neville will walk into the current Utd squad every match. He was that good.
In terms of work ethic I agree! Unfortunately what too many players lack nowadays
Well I mean any RB in the league walks into United’s starting lineup, that’s not saying much at all mate 😂
@Lovelydropp Absolute bollocks. Dalot has been one the best Utd player so far. He'd walk into most of the teams in the league.
@@Lovelydropp Nah, Dalot has genuinely been a top 3 RB this season. He's one of the only United players whose form has been consistent (a couple of bad games, for sure) and has played every game. He doesn't get the credit he deserves.
he'd be a centre half these days as he was in the youth team, the game has changed a lot.
The reason its still Ferguson over Pep is longevity. Ferguson managed to rebuild his team 4 times, in the Premier League years, and won the league at least once in every rebuild. He overcame every rival team that ever stood in his way (Newcastle, Arsenal, Chelsea and City)
So
That's nonsense Pep has done it all over Europe.
@@johnmichaelson9173 The question was who's the greatest Premier League manager.
@@johnmichaelson9173 sir Alex doesn't have 115 charges.. Nor did he go to the best Clubs in each League to win it. MOYES WOULD WIN THE BUNDESLIGA WITH BAYERN.
Ferguson is a legend for defending and supporting the Glazers 👏
Manchester United vs Arsenal has been EASILY the best rivalry in premier league history.
Yeah and the reason Chelsea/United isn't considered is because Chelsea changed managers multiple times
@@KJ_2020 true, plus Mourinho had a lot of respect for SAF so it wasn’t as intense.
Yeah I have to agree, it was like Neville mention, a long war and deeper feelings.
Arsenal wasn’t giving United an inch, I still remember both United and Arsenal losing a massive points lead in different seasons.
If supported either club it is.
Fergie v Wenger yes plus pep v klopp yes. Not moyes v uray emrea
That Varane comment was spot on
Sir Alex never had 115 charges against his wins either.
To be fair to Pep, all those allegations came before his time as manager. It still has an impact because the foundations upon which he built his team were corrupt, but he couldn’t have known that.
I thought that the date set to sort out the charges were in April, I'm sure we'd have heard about it if they were happening.
Yeah like fergie didn't used to have refs in his pockets,
No FFP either.
@@miniman2132 that's true but you can't compare sir Alex to pep for me. Pep needs an open check book and sir Alex was successful without the recourse that pep had. I mean he has a 100 mill player on his bench that he doesn't use. Even Josè is better then him in my opinion to be honest
Watkins is a very good player but Toney's all around play and his decision making is genuinely top tier.
Watkins has been genuinely sensational this season as a goalscorer and provider, Toney's barely played
Watkins pisses all over toney
@sbeeezz then he’ll be charged.
@@JasonMcNeill-bv8lb or uploaded to another website maybe?
It's bloody mad how people's strong opinions are formed off the evidence of the players' most recent game as opposed to form over the whole season season. Watkins has been one of, if not the, best player in the Prem this season. Toney has played 5 games...
Alex Ferguson won European trophies with Aberdeen, Pep has never managed any team outside the top 3 of a league or even built a team with limited funds.
just because he hasn't done it doesn't mean he can't do it.
@@justawarlorduntil he does it, that's exactly what it means.
@@justawarlordit can also be said that until he proves he can, hes unproven at building his own squad practically from scratch. Sir Alex is proven.
Why would he take a smaller job ? Jose only takes dmaller jobs now cause no big ckub wants go give him a job
If you become massively successful with your first club, you don't need to do that.
It's not a flaw and it doesn't show he can't do it.
The Barca team were 3rd, 18pts off the top when he took over and he sold Ronaldinho, Deco, Zambrotta, Thuram and Edmilson, he then went on to win a treble in his first season, there is no reason to manage a lesser team after that incredible spell at Barca.
Hearing it out loud Liverpools 2005 Champions League run was crazy.
Honestly it was amazing. That Luis Garcia goal vs Juventus was when I first thought "hey we might actually win this whole thing"
Goal line tech and keeper being forced to stay on his line and it doesn't happen.
The FFP conversation is always so loaded.
Something interesting I did see was that out of the top 20 biggest pre tax losses in the premier league era, 50% of them have been from City and Chelsea yet none have had any deductions. This is with the huge owner funding, in 2011 City had a £195m loss. Clubs that get away with everything whilst Forest/Everton are having points deducted.
Adding to this. Everton have had 4 in each of the last 4 years relating to the stadium build and crazy wage bill.
- LiVARpool caught Hacking
- LiVARpool not considered Cheats
- City found Not Guilty in Court
- City are considered Cheats?🤣
@@HumanBeingsRThinkingBeings Do you actually know that Liverpool were robbed of 6pts and gained 2 pts so were actually cheaTED OUT OF 4 PTS THIS SEASON. nO YOU DON'T KNOW THE FACTS BUT CALL THEM THAT LIKE A 10 YEAR OLD SNOTTY KID WOULD LMAO
@@HumanBeingsRThinkingBeings You were never found not guilty. You have been punished and fined by UEFA.
@@hchrist7793 You have had far more VAR decisions and penalty decisions for you. You've gained more points than you have lost. That stat ignores the decisions that have wrongly gone for you.
- Lpool,Utd Owners conspired S.League
- Lpool,Utd not considered Cheats
- City Owners collapsed S.League
- City are considered Cheats?🤣
totally agree with Gary on Van Dijk. he has a powerful aura that lifts his team and intimidates opposition. Like Rodri at City. At United...we have no such individual.
People seem to forget that toney is a penalty specialist and penalties could be a factor
Pretty sure any of the options could be deemed as specialist with regards to penalties. Any top striker nowadays has that in them!
Rashy was also a pen specialist, suddenly came to euros missed, but I would love for Toney to be on
Specialists never fail at their jobs?
@@igehay4977when was rashford ever considered a penalty specialist hahahaha
@@celtic69 he has an amazing record and has scored some big pens under immense pressure, like his pen in the shootout against columbia in 2018 wc and against psg in the last minute to knock them out.
We need more like this, brilliant
Would be nice if fans from all Premier League clubs were involved
quite a logistic to pull through though, I bet that's one of the reasons. 20 people, one from each club, noone gets sick, no immediate family issues etc. I bet it wouldn't be that easy pulling off :P
@espenhaugland639 The right hand side of the room said nothing
They may have a part 2 on this
@@oldmanc2They must be Overlap extras 😄
@@oldmanc2 That's exactly what I thought.
Great listening to Gary talking about emotional control and winning the league. He’s been there and done that 8 times
Got carried 8 times 👍
@@sib1930if it happens 1,2 or 3 tints
Sure he got carried
8 times?😂😂😂😂😂 he deserved to be in that team then
@@sib1930Carried for 15yrs???
Gary Neville is an advisor for the PGMOL
Definitely and during half times he converses with them. Gary Neville works with the PGMOL, his team Man United worked with them too. Howard Webb isn’t the head of the PGMOL for no reason at the moment
We'll do what we want. You minions 😂 We'll be back soon when the board is sorted
Lmao. We get so many decisions against us. Honestly most of the games I've watched the refs are tragic @@alexbelotti1603
@@danmancmufcback to what? Take more than a new board to catch City
@@danmancmufcgo back to bed
Carragher is so right about all his points with the champions league. It just has something about it that elevates the club. The league is obviously also huge. Understand how people would choose either.
He's right in what he says but most fans would still prefer to win the league.
@@KJ_2020 That's because most fans haven't experienced the joy of winning a Champion's League. Nothing tops it.
@@themisanthropichumanist7050 vast majority of United fans would prefer to win the league. I think it's the same deep down for Liverpool fans even though they're rightly proud of their European success. The fact is there aren't rivalries across countries like there are domestically.
European cup is amazing to win but I think most clubs would rather be the dominant force in their domestic league.
@@KJ_2020I disagree. United would for sure love to be winning the champions league and making farther year in and year out. You obviously have to do good in your league to get into the UCL. The PL is amazing it is one of the best if not the best domestic league in the world. But there is one league better which is the champions league. The best teams all across Europe going head 2 head. Most teams apart from a team like antwerp are all top quality sides in the champions league. It’s more entertaining and higher quality. In the UCL you can’t afford to play one or two bad games because that can cost you getting knocked out where as in a league you can afford to lose a game or a couple. I mean look at city they have won a lot of prem recently but look at how long and hard it was for them to win the UCL. You can prefer the premier league that’s fine but undoubtedly the champions league is higher quality and harder to win.
Jay from Stretford Paddock is a legend.
I’d take winning the champions league any day over the prem. cup football has everything you want, all focused into 90 minutes in a final and the emotions on the night are just the best (or worst if you lose!)
Put it like this If the World Cup/euros was a league format I wouldn’t bother watching it. (And would we have as many memorable moments as we have had?)
Well done !!
I have been living in France on and off for 25 years and full time for the last 7 in all that time I had never seen a City shirt 🙂until last year😢, so globally the champions league is bigger, than the prem. Though in the Un United Kingdom the premiership is definitely the biggest thing that a team can win IMO. UTR&UTP up the paddock for those that don’t know ✌🏼
Love these shows, Gary and Carra are brilliant. Agree with everything Jamie says, total sense
Yeah, what a Q&A session by the way.
A brilliant interview, well done all involved.. ⚽👍
Great episode, Thanks for having me UTV
You did great Finley!
In what universe do you think the Bundesliga seems "more like things could happen" for smaller teams? Point spreads have been just as tight in the PL for the past decade, and despite Man City's dominance, its not like they've won 11 in a row like Bayern. Feel like you could only make that statement if you've been following football for a year.
Couldn't put it better. Some of the comments were insane 😅
Love this format with these guys.
Brilliant idea and great fun watching the selection process. Well done. C'mon DFC!!⚽⚽
Working night shift in The U.S 2am always a pleasure hearing/watching these two any time is a pleasure Thank you very much Gentlemen 👏🏽
Hope your on your break or the gaffer won’t be pleased lol
@@lorcon8907 I’m in the starting lineup Gaffer can’t bench me🤣🤣🤣it gets hard not watching the videos , when they have a big laugh I rewind it
Proper footie discussion. Nice.
Amazing Q&A session as well.
We won a league playing 442. 🤷♂️ with zero possession
Clive's little head tilt at 14:06 hahahahahaha that has taken me out
He knew they were waffling !😂
Toney is a guaranteed pen scored. No brainer....
He missed one against Newcastle
And thats the only one hes ever missed @@samstudy21
From his many years in this league kane doing it here since 20..toney 25 when he started by time kane retires as England ST..toney Watkins be 30
Ferguson broke up the Glasgow monopoly. It was an impossible job at United
More impossible now than ever
The question was whats BIGGER, the european cup or the premier league, its the european cup every time, whats more difficult? The premier league
@9:45 if you remove the top 6 from PL and have a league of top 14, wouldn't you think the same thing would happen again where the top 4 or 3 would be in their own league and leave 11 or 10 behind?
Talk about over analysing celebrations. Don't suck the individual joy out of the game. Celebration is not premeditated it is instinctive. Let that be a natural process rather than analysing a perceived over or under reaction. VAR is already doing a great job of robbing a natural reaction to a goal scored as we aren't sure if it's definitely a goal or not until the 📐 is out. Celebrate and enjoy the moment!
Celebration police 🚔
I'd take Garnacho. I know we have a lot of wingers but he's so dynamic and so aggressive when he attacks, and he can play on both sides really well, I'd love to see him in the team. Mainoo would be great and I'd take Hojlund if we didn't have Nunez, but Garncho would be the one.
Nahh not for me. He's a good player but he wouldn't improve us in my opinion.
Last question was a bit savage!
It's always fun to hear fans of teams in the Premier League saying "Woe is me" for an hour.
Wise words here 13:23
No one ever asks how many league titles Real Madrid has. EVERYONE talks about the 14 European Cups
Because they have won 35 league titles. What's your point mate?
@@navinmenon7671they’re poor in La Liga
@navinmenon7671 think he made his point clear.
You came back with something that made no sense.
That's because there is a connection for all with European cup...but winning your League is the greater achievement
@@starlord6433if they're poor and they have 35 how many should they win to get rich?
Great show boys.
What a Q&A session.
What is the process to take part in these debates? Would love to take part or is it based on their social media profile etc
That Luton dude is on something special 😂.
Loved the show. However I am colour blind so the paddles all looked the same. If you do this again, could you please bear colour blindness in mind?
Sort ya eyes out
So you want them to completely change something just for you privileged much so do you think if you were hard of hearing they should re do it with you there to make sure you can hear it I wrote this comment in green btw.
@colin21277 RUclips has subtitles. It's just a suggestion, not massively fussed
@@colin21277 "completely change something". It would be changing the colour on some cheap signs. Not exactly hard is it. It's not privileged to politely ask.
@@lewisemmerson6513 do you want them to change something that makes completely no difference to as they speak it isn’t a silent film
Crazy that there's even a conversation regarding whether Ollie will make the squad or not😮.
Man City winning the FA cup and finishing in top 4 is a success to me. No team has ever won 4 PLs in a row, and Madrid are the only team to win back to back UCL titles in 34 years. Missing on those 2 this season is not failure especially after their treble win last season. Any other season however, missing on the UCL or the PL won't be so good for Mancity coz of the standards they've set.
And soon you can add the Championship to your collection 😊
What was the point in having all those on the right in the crowd? 😂😂😂😂
Every soap needs extras in the background 😄
Gary Neville seems a lot nicer outside of playing football on the pitch
Most people are mate
Both Gary & Jamie were ferocious when playing,they didn't play to be liked,they played to win with heart.And of course the Man U- LFC rivalry often brought out the demons, but to now see these two as mates is quite amazing.Also we all mellow.
He's also a lot older. You can't expect someone to be the same person at 40 they was as 25
"And I get that, you did well" 😂😂😂
Watkins highest g&a in the country includes qualifiers for the conference league. Shameless shouts them
He still has the most g/a in the league though
Solanke has as many goals as Watkins on a much weaker team and never even gets a mention
One good season. Watkins has been hitting double figures for the last couple of years
Alex of course!!
115.
Should be a good watch!
Clive continues to be a legend ♥️🤍
9:25 ...😅😅say it with your chest lad sounds like he's about to break down 😂
The points totals of the top teams nowadays are due to the less competitive nature of the football being played. To say man city v Liverpool is anywhere near the arsenal v man utd rivalry is a joke
I agree as Liverpool and manncity are way better than Arsenal and Man U
@@LoyalFan9383 that means you disagree. Relatively speaking, Liverpool and city are better but, the football is not competitive anymore. Put this city team into the 98-99 season and I doubt they would finish top four.
@@benitotommassi5820alright Man U from that season wouldn’t even finish above this current Villa side then 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Lovely rivals all hugging each other
champions league semi final 1999.. giggs keane blomquist becks v Zidane Davids Conte Deschamps levele my friend levels
Did Jamie just get some veneers lol
This channel is the best on youtube.
Much more digestible than the long-winded hour and a half show you usually do with fans, can get a bit tedious that one. This with stick to football are perfect combo imo
Pep a genius 😂😂 at barca he has xavi iniesta nd messi, at bayern he was 99.9% sure to win league and at City 115 ffp charges, put him at a mid table team he'd be like everyone else
Frank Rikjaard had Messi Iniesta and Xavi but in his last season Barcelona finished 3rd in La Liga.
Messi became what he is now during Pep's 1st season in Barcelona.
Trust me in my opinion he won't do a better job with man united then ten hag with our players. Hell nooooo
What an idiotic comment. He had a RW Messi, xavi and iniesta are 5'6, 5'7 , not particularly quick and dominating every team in Europe. Guardiola set them up to do that, after he went they were successful but no other manager got the same core of players to play the same way. Anyone that just sweeps away how good guardiola is as a manager doesn't understand the details of football.
@@charlielumley8889 bro we not saying he's a bad coach. We are just saying he has everything he needs at every club he's been in. Most managers don't get that and now with the 115 they all look weird. Pep tactics that he leaned from Johan is game changing of course but it's hard to respect pep guardiola to the point where we're comparing to sir Alex when sir Alex won with a team that struggling with success then made a dynasty with the recourses he was given. I don't see pep doing that EVER. Even Josè career more respectful then his to be honest
@charlielumley8889 you do understand xavi and iniesta were 2 of the greatest cms in the history of the game, you talk as if they were slow average players 🤣 and messi in that year got 38 goals and was already at 21 one of the best players on the planet
The Forest was delusional when talking about the top '6' clubs lol. Gary is right, without those clubs the Premier League wouldn't be the league it is today (as much as I despite our rivals). Which is why LaLiga and Serie A are looking for new ways to generate more income.
Nah they can all clear off and play in the super league where Real & Barca would have preyed on them once they bailed them out financially.
VVD cost Pool the CL Final standing off Valverde.
Made a fool of by Isak earlier this season, at fault for 3 of Uniteds goals in the FA Cup, Welbecks goal at the weekend.
Literally never gets criticism.
Comment on Varane from Nev nailed it!
#5
With Fergie v Pep, no one mentioned the most obvious factor. 13 titles vs 5
How many titles did Fergie win in his first 7 years?
@@adrianmarrinan7707 fergie didnt come into a club that was already winning titles and financially doping. Also this is a prem discussion so the answer is 5
@@Sam-bd7gp ohh right a prem discussion...so its fair to compare 27 years with how long pep has been there?
Literally was a prem discussion. So yeah, as far as English football goes, he has a long way to go before he's compared to fergie@@adrianmarrinan7707
Except Pep's won 11 Titles in 3 major leagues in 16 years of management, whereas Fergie's won 14 Titles in 1 major league and 1 tin pot league in like 40 years of management. How about that for context?
United fans have been accused of over celebrating the liverpool result, every team does, dont worry about it and celebrate more
The irony is Klopp has only beaten Ten Hag once and because of the score line 7-0 even a year later Pool fans still go on about it.
The shock on Cara and Nevs when people say they don’t care about the big 6 and would be happy to see the back of them is quite hilarious
💯 Jamie - winning Champions League is better than League.. it shows Europe the club is a force to be reckoned with.
Get the badge in
Please put on the regular show of the lads in studio . Roy. Wrighty, and whoever else
The UCL is greater imo bc you get more exposure to the World of Football. You also get to play in the Club World Cup.
The best team in Europa doesn’t always win it BUT it takes a lot to win it. You can always be in the league but the UCL you might not always be in it. Also, the UCL does not always come back. Look at Utd, 2008, Arsenal, Never, Chelsea, Almost 10 year gap between their 2. Liverpool almost 15 year gap between their last 2 UCL wins.
It’s harder to come by
Welcome to the "Right!" At This Moment In Time And To Be Fair, Hello Phillip, Hello Gary, Gary "Ooooooo" Neville Podcast.
What would be as it were whereby
Sir Alex won 13 premier leagues. Pep has 5. Jose has 3. Wenger has 3. Together they have FEWER titles than Sir Alex. Absolute no contest.
How many did they all win in their first 7 years? Ridiculous statement...how can you compare what someone won over 27 years and what someone did over 5!
And Pep has more UCLs than Alex?
@@AkshatSharma-uz7im and the question was who's best in the premier league
@@GTAjedi thanks honey 😘
@@AkshatSharma-uz7im you're welcome
Noticed with all Overlaps but why does it cut to a break abruptly so something isn't finished or quickly after an answer
What rates as success for Arsenal/Liverpool/City/England... bit more variety in the questions would have been good
Manchester utd and Liverpool pay the bills for the EPL let's not mess about
They were funded
No, MANCHESTER UNITED pay the bills for the EPL, we are at our lowest in 40 years and we still get talked about more than anyone else in the world
Arsenal still the biggest and best PL club now tho from England
@BruteForce-zf7hv usually have win a league at least once in last 20 years hopefully this year
@@BruteForce-zf7hv absolutely deluded
Stats are overrated, they don't take so many things into account,ie.teams they won/lost against and whether they were playing the top 11 or a team that's trying youngsters out, it's got it's place but not as highly as it's made out to be, and they can be manipulated, famous saying "lies,damn lies and statistics"-W.Churchill.
City and Liverpool hasn't been competitive or fiery enough for it to be above United and Arsenal, I'm not even sure I'd put it above the Liverpool and Chelsea rivalry of the mid 2000s. They set the highest standard but when talking about great rivalries there's a lot more to consider than that.
Is there any chance that one day you could discuss or have a participant from Brighton FC on the show?
Upvote for Sir Alex
Pep has a higher points per game in the league, and the league is far better now, in terms of depth of quality
@@Bert-lw1othe took over champions, Ferguson created champions. League is far better now? The financial gaps between the top 6 and the rest of the league is far greater. You need less points now to stay up in the league, which highlights this gap.
@Bert-lw1ot your wrong there champ. The depth in European football in general has gone down. The premier league was more competitive in the past for example in 99 when utd won the treble Chelsea only lost 3 games that season and still finished 3rd. The top European clubs are at the weakest they have been in the last 20 years.
@@jhaych he didn’t take over champions, it’s a myth that quite often gets incorrectly repeated! And yes, the league is clearly better now, in terms of how deep the talent is. Teams have to be on it every week, or they’ll get turned over. Back then it was strictly a top 4, and it was usually the same 4. Now it’s a top 6, and they can change. Not to mention the fact that there has been 3 different winners of the UCL from the Premier League very, very recently
@@jasonwolfe5787 I’m not talking about the depth of European football. The fact is mid table, ever bottom half teams in the PL can now go and take players from bigger teams in other leagues because they can simply outspend them…meaning even they can have some really good players
Tactics wise, it’s Pep.
Success wise, it’s Pep.
Influence wise, it’s Pep.
Created the Best football team in entire football history.
But but … just st fu.
Made not in England but worldwide most people started loving Arsenal and United cos of that rivaly they had
115 reasons why pep is second best
Well during SAF there was no FFP.
@@sunepbahe didn't need it. United generate their own money.
wow that is clever, haven't heard that one before
@@Indie127 funny coincidence is EPL introduced FFP right after SAF retired 😆
Before that united would buy whatever players they want.
Ffp was introduced just to check CITY and its oil money
115 until 2018. Dont affect Pep era. CRY.
This obsession with Arteta and Arsenal’s “celebrations” is bothering on ridiculous.
Klopp, Mourinho, Conte. The PL is dotted with managers and teams with exuberant celebrations and that’s what the game is about, why this nonsense about over celebrating?
All of them have won league titles and trophies, Arteta hasn't.
PL and UCL this year?@@kriissyy09ify
@@kriissyy09ify so? Your saying unless you won a trophy you can’t celebrate. lol. That’s a sad outlook.
This Man City lad going on about "quality of football". Arsenal/Man U players of the rivalry era some goat level quality. Scholes, Henry, Bergkamp to name just 3.
City would obliterate them lad
@@Lone_Wolf21 ok if u say so
Jamie keeps going on about total points tally in the prem league, but Neville knows that the bottom half of the table were tougher than they are today. I remember man utd at their best dropping points consistently to Southampton.
Agree 100% with the Forest lad, the sooner the big 6 leave the better
Forest should stop cheating first, maybe that would make football more fair?
@@kriissyy09ify Wouldn't have to 'cheat' to play catch up if the PL was determined to make itself a closed shop
Would completely destroy forrests revenues but ok
@@TheNotSoFakeNews supporters don't care about revenues, they want to play in a relatively even league
@@flyoverfredusa yeah, so more even revenue sharing is the way to go imo
Sir Alex has more PL titles than Pep, Jose, Wenger and Klopp combined. Not even a debate.
Pep has changed the way a lot of teams play football.
Pep humiliated AF best team twice in CL final
@@happyaslarry5839 well done. He still hasn’t done what Sir Alex has IN THE PREMIER LEAGUE.
@@happyaslarry5839oh you mean with that steroid riddled barca team?
@@ueuehdsuhdh4543Peps Barca were on steroids?😂😂😂😂 I've heard it all now
@@Greg-rv5vm go search it up then come back and tell me the “conspiracy” isn’t true
Up the Mariners (Grimsby) reference 😉
How has the big 6's success benefitted the other clubs? Other than boosting TV money for everyone?
Sir Alex's work with Aberdeen is better than Pep Guardiola's whole career lmao
Pep schooling Ferguson in 2 CL Finals is not good enough?
@@sehun2193 That too with first one in 2009 as an underdog.
@@sehun2193 His players did it, players that were already there before Pep. It was the players that allowed him to play the Barcelona way. If he was such a schooler why didnt he bring the CL to Bayern? And when he failed doing that he went to City where he had pretty much unlimited funds to make the team he wants and even then it took him 7 years to win a CL
@@sehun2193nope. Overall no
@@sehun2193the difference is that they were the clearly the better team. Try beating Madrid with Aberdeen today
What Sir Alex did with my club Aberdeen was unbelievable. Beating Real Madrid in a European cup final? Come on now. Then beating the defending European cup champions Hamburg the following season.
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Yeah his time at Aberdeen is overlooked but also his early years for ManUtd is bizarrely criticised when things were harder then like having to finish higher in a league of the same or sometimes even more teams to qualify for European cup and English clubs were banned from Europe anyway for like 5/6 years around that time which would've effected transfer windows etc...as European football qualification gives the club a bit more pull when trying to buy players. He won CupWinnersCup the first year the ban was lifted.
Plus his consistency in the ChampionsLeague was impressive from 1996/97 to 2010/11 despite having next to no luck in the competition compared to other teams if you look at the style they won them and their seasons in general. ManUtd only had 1 bad CL season in that 15 year period, would regularly score loads of goals in the competition and won 2 in invincible style and got to 2 other finals without losing a CL game prior to those finals and never relied on away goals but were knocked out by that rule quite a few times, were robbed or unlucky or both so many times yet ManUtd still hold the CL unbeaten game record which has stood for 15 years and counting.
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It's harder to win the premier league but it is bigger to win the champions league. Even the biggest players are remembered more world wide by either their world cup, champions League or euro performance. Without the 5 champions leagues Ronaldo wouldn't be as big as he is . Modric,Kaka , Kroos, Xavi , Iniesta, Drogba all this names are big because of champions league performance.
You can’t really compare SAF’s era to Pep’s era in the PL. A lot has changed. VAR, Away Goals, New UCL Format from next season. Pep only won the UCL at City after the away goals rule changed.
You cannot compare era’s anymore because it feels like you’re almost comparing two different sports. And that’s also why I want VAR gone. I think Ai refereeing based on previous decisions will be the future ultimately anyways
Arsenal's over-celebrating smells of Liverpool under Brendan Rodgers. Very green in comparison to Liverpool and City.
Still though can't remember when Liverpool last beat Arsenal in the league .. gotta be years ago now
@@SwiftGifts-ni6qzcouple seasons and your heads gone lmao. Arsenal we’re getting hit for cricket scores vs Liverpool for about 6 years, humble yourself
@SwiftGifts-ni6qz two seasons ago Liverpool beat them home and away 4-0 and 2-0. You lot have got short memories, blimey.
@@GhostJJJ lol this what they do mate and why no one takes them seriously. The way the get so excited finally winning a gane against us shows the small club mentality their fanbase has.
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16:20 Being the first team ever to win four consecutive Premier League titles... in a season with all 3 contenders getting around 90pts each, would be yet another incredible achievement not to be taken for granted. Nothing "standard" about that.
Cheaters
115 charges loading, you lot bought your success. That is not the same as what SAF did.
Well done clive! Putting the arsenal casw forward, we can celebrate if we want