George Floyd's Death Debunked | Joe Rogan & Neal Brennan
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The biggest issue with this discussion is the constant ‘I heard’
Source trust me bro
@@markusgallegos587 LOL!!! Go up 3 or 4 comments and check out one of these clowns you're talking about hahaa! People just kill me sometimes?!?!?!
I find it hard to believe that that cop was TRYING to kill Floyd in broad daylight with a bunch of people standing around filming him
I don’t
@@kloserlookI wonder why 🤔
The procedure officer Chauvin used to hold down Floyd was not illegal or banned but was in fact taught in police training throughout the country.
@@kloserlookwhy would he do it in broad daylight, on purpose, in front of everyone when he could’ve waited til in later in a more closed setting? I hate most cops. I hate how a lot of them do the job. Chauvin was definitely a prick with a bad history. He was the PERFECT lamb for the slaughter. Was basically, “we know a lot of white cops are shitty at this job, so here you go anti cop people. He’s all yours”.
Sad thing is, I can point you to 100 worse videos of abuse where cops are being PROMOTED after their crime because the victim luckily didn’t die…
the fact anybody would even believe that is bat shit
The cops were telling Floyd they’d put the AC on for him when he was lying saying that he was claustrophobic and couldn’t get in the back of the cop car. That’s not the actions of people that were “out to get him because he was black”.
@ShadowsInSpace13womp womp u racist he as doing fine I Intel the cops showed up
How would you know if he had a fear of claustrophobia or not???
@chillhousedudes You can't even write a correct sentence.
@@MADCITYSTUDIOSdo you know how to read? GF specifically said he was claustrophobic, and the cops offered to turn the AC on for him
That whole thing was absolutely nuts. They really had the whole world protesting over this and the whole time I was sat back like am I on crazy pills for not getting the outrage? I just saw a cop following procedure and the guy happening to die. Maybe the methods used weren't ideal but I definitely didnt see anybody being ''murdered'' when I saw it.
Only in America you can make a dope Fiend criminal a saint
Bro, have you seen your profile pic?
Same place you make a criminal con man from New York who set up a fake College and basically stole money from people the president of the United States😂😂😂
@@Epoch11 made a good ass pres tho
@@Epoch11 😂
Who made him a saint? Pointing out police brutality on anyone isn’t making someone a saint. The dude was murdered by a cop for a bad check, then slandered by right wing racists with fake overdose stories.
The most interesting thing about the full body cam to me is that GF said he couldn’t breathe before he was on the ground and asked to lay on the ground.
Called having a panic attack, remember this he was doing fine Intel the cops showed up, so u and ur gf are a racist
I agree.
It’s also interesting no one is trying to contradict your statement or the assumption it leads to.
It's police procedure. He asked for paramedic because he was struggling to breathe and when that happens the protocol is to get out of the car and lay down on the ground. The knee thing I don't understand.
Yeah I watched the 15 minute video of the whole incident not long after it all happened.
They put him in the cop car, but he asked to be put outside of it because he was saying "I can't breathe." He was saying it repeatedly up until the moment that went viral and angered the world.
@@teonactalpizza The knee seemed to just be a tactic to prevent him from fleeing IMO. No clue why anyone would maliciously do that in front of multiple people recording.
This guy is a fake smart person and contradicts himself constantly 😂😂😂😂
Absolutely
The word you're looking for is charlatan.
@@patrickkearney8774 the word you're looking for is. |efty
Him and Rogan make a perfect pair
Are you talking about Rogan
Bullshit. The average lethal level of fentanyl is just under 10 ng/mL and Saint Fentanyl Floyd was at 11ng/mL AND he also had 5.6ng/mL of norfentanyl. At peak before metabolism, Floyd was likely around 17ng/mL.
They just read you the facts but sure, make your own baseless assumptions.
And you can go online right now and actually look up data showing patients have been shown to have as little as 5ng/L admitted to the ER, two who died had 11ng/l and 13ng/L from the CDC www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/66/wr/mm6604a4.htm
Post ur facts then please instead of just saying bullshit.
@@lexxxlucifer6665 www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/66/wr/mm6604a4.htm it’s not his facts it’s the facts sorry it doesn’t align with your emotional disposition. And I don’t think fentanyl killed him it was a factor the number one thing being the unnecessary force for over 8 min. But facts are facts don’t be so sure if you’re not knowledgeable on a topic
@@theslowevo9303 This exchange was a perfect synopsis of today's nonsense: a broad group of people who'd rather believe sketchy sources on social media over confirmed sources/data presented to them because it came from "mainstream media". And then, when presented with evidence that conflicts with their ridiculous theory, they double down.
Neal Brennan claiming the documentary was "debunked" is suspect. Who was it debunked by? The people that agree with you and want the documentary to be debunked?
Debunked by gay leftists
As a person with health problems. I can see how police officers wouldn’t be able to understand my health during an arrest. My doctors barely understand what is wrong with my body. I stay home and don’t say shit or break laws for this very reason.
Cool story bro? Is there an audiobook? I *really* want to hear it again because it was such a great story, but I just don't feel like putting any effort into it myself.
I’m also guessing that you don’t take massive doses of fentanyl either
@AsocPaladin0016 and meth too. Dudes heart probably couldn't decide what to do.
@@joshh535 your reply is almost as long as my post dipshit lol
@@joshh535 then go break some laws and we'll see YOU in the news.
Don't forget he was saying he couldn't breath BEFORE they ever laid a hand on him.. something was already wrong with the guy.. 😢
Plus if you say you can't breathe, that means you can breathe
@phillipclark2619 Exactly. If you can't breathe, you can't talk for 10 minutes straight...
@@phillipclark2619I’ve seen a lot of corrections guards and sheriff deputies fired over saying this after restraining a guy
Every video of a black person getting arrested has them saying, "I cant breathe." EVERY SINGLE ONE. Find me a video where they have been resisting and are getting arrested and they DONT say they can't breathe. THERE ISNT ONE.
@@phillipclark2619correction: that means you can temporarily breath but could mean that you’re still struggling to breath and could be going in and out of being able to breathe. So yea the whole “if you can talk you can breathe” excuse is clearly flawed.
Neal lost me
Neil’s annoying
He’s ridiculous
Calm down. He also agrees with you loons on some subjects. He's just very well-read, which I know causes rumblings amongst those who aren't.
@@slayerduval1….relax Mr She-Them🫡
@user-yn7rv4zs2l ….shut up, Neil🫡
@@thepoeticbutcher3370 You fantasize about trans people completely unprompted? I have some bad news for you
The coroner report said he didn’t die from anything on his neck. And they held him down.
False it was proven in court he died from the knee on his neck
@@rebel1k792they also acquitted Oj, let Cosby and Weinstein out. Did I they get those right?
Are you saying the courts always get it right by your argument or are you speaking from emotions?
@@rebel1k792even after what these two black men discuss or are they Uncle Toms….?
ruclips.net/video/0ffv4IUxkDU/видео.htmlsi=DCIMBN8zoclOtTMD
@@rebel1k792lmfao no it wasn’t
@@rebel1k792no, no they didn’t. There was no medical evidence of bruising which occurs when one suffocates to death.
Hes sober now
Floyd
Dam son 😂
That was harsh and uncalled for!! I'm going to report you. Na just kidding funniest sh*t I read all day!!
😂
And the officer is gettin beat up in prison 🤣🤣
He was saying he can't breath long before he even got put on the ground
Georgie lied about his fentanyl usage to the officers. Had he been honest, the situation would have likely ended differently. Still, no evidence that this incident was racially motivated. None. Zero. GF placed himself in that position through his actions and his alone. Tough luck.
"i wouldn't even debate the color of orange juice with you neal." Rik the peoples poet.
He had crack cocaine in his mouth too. Which was clearly seen .
Even bigger question is why does the police license plate literally say police. What the hell
Remember celebrities. We are the ones on the front line working that has to deal with the fall outs of the race baiting.
(They) know that, that’s the point. (They) are creating golems through disinformation and propaganda to wage war on their behalf. Not celebrities primarily, but they certainly do too.
It’s primarily the “chosen people” if you catch my drift.
It is also entirely possible that he had drug problems but that the cop's actions did lead to his death, There was absolutely no reason the cop needed to keep him on the ground after he was cuffed. I don't care what drugs he had in his system. The cop needed to call EMT's if he said he couldn't breath, worst case they would've said he is fine and the would have wasted some time. It's not like the whole movement was about just george floyd, it was about this kind of treatment being normal in a lot of cases. Not to mention if he had a "lethal" dose of fentynal in his system, he woudn't have been walking around doing anything. The cop was in the wrong even if he didn't intend to kill him.
"Not to mention if he had a "lethal" dose of fentanyl in his system, he wouldn't have been walking around doing anything."
THANK YOU, THANK YOU!!! Finally someone who speaks common sense!!!
Go up a few comments and read what this clown said to my comment?! He's talking like he was there, or he was part of the autopsy team or something?!?! He says I'm dumb because he KNOWS that it was Fentanyl that killed him, not the cops! Ugggggh!!!
Among other things, there is a 1 hour full body cam video of the event on YT that can be viewed by anyone.
Key points I saw.
1. Cop asked Floyd multiple times to show his hands/show is other hand before drawing his gun.
2. Woman who is in the car with Floyd tells Floyd to stop resisting. Floyd`s two friends were cordial with the cops in comparison to Floyd.
3. First time I heard Floyd say "I cant breath" was when he was in the cop car before the knee on neck.
I need to refresh my memory because I havent watched it since it was published back in Q4 2020. Video Leak Police I think was the channel I saw it on.
After reviewing the body cam footage. It was clear George Floyd was on drugs. They asked him and George said no, and his behavior continued to say otherwise. He kicked himself out the back of the backseat of the squad car they tried to put him in and The officers on site messed up when he kept saying he couldn’t breathe. He wasn’t a threat in terms of harming the officers. They searched him and there were 6 officers to one suspect. Totally outnumbered. No reason to not readjust him. Sit him up and let him sit on the pavement and calm down. It was not a good situation all around. People who try to say George was a saint are wrong, and people who say the officer was a saint is wrong too.
This guy? I love this tactic. Tells Joe, "you're saying 'yeah, but-yeah, but,'" and then when they start reading the autopsy report he instantly starts "Yeah, but-yeah, but."
That technique was how he was trained but the police lied in the trial.
It kills me how people can get so much of a story wrong even after the facts come out he was bouncing around and brash he kicked out of the police car asked to lay on the ground he stated he couldn’t breathe before he got out the car it’s no doubt he swallowed the drugs
2:38 it's insane to me that people who have such an important voice in culture like Rogan haven't actually seen the full video yet speak on these important matters without thinking twice... Floyd was definitely resisting arrest. In fact they tried multiple times to put him in the back of the police vehicle after he was handcuffed and he was kicking and screaming the entire time. Keep in mind, this is a BIG, strong man who was under the influence of hard drugs and god knows what else that these guys had to keep under control Had he not resisted, he wouldn't have been on the ground at all. I'm not excusing Chauvin or the rest of them, matter of fact i don't particularly like cops or am with the "back the blue" BS. I don't the majority are corrupt and bad, but i do think A LOT are simply because power corrupts all. Still, facts are facts.
crazy how this is allowed on youtube lol if this was uploaded in 2020, it would be removed immediately 😂
Because douchebags were in power at RUclips.
There was an election to win
Here's some facts:
When the cops approached Floyd, he immediately started going into panic mode.
In the BWC footage, you could see Floyd put something into his mouth (drug users and dealers swallow their product all the time to avoid arrest). Thiis footage was kept out during trial.
Floyd began screaming to his mother as soon as he was taken out of the car.
Floyd said that he couldn't breathe as soon as he was confronted by the police.
The amount of fentanyl in his system was a lethal dose for most people.
One of Floyd's arteries had a 75% blockage and he had issues with his heart.
Floyd was pulled over a year prior to his death, and he made the same claims about not being able to breathe.
The technique that the officer used to detain Floyd (knee on back/shoulder) was, in fact, taught to departments around the country prior to the incident in question. During the officer's trial, the use of force training manual that showed this technique wasnt allowed into evidence.
Floyd was a career criminal that once held a gun to a pregnant woman's belly during a robbery.
Many criminals say things very similar to what floyd was saying that day. Cops become very desensitized to it.
Optics and fear of public backlash sent Chauvin to prison... he didn't kill anyone.
Ur a clown 🤡
“History of abuse” - he pulled a shotgun on a pregnant woman
The Narcan thing and cops withholding DOES NOT HAPPEN.
It always makes me laugh when Joe goes to Google for facts
Joe gets fact checked constantly and constantly says incorrect things because he doesn’t know how to actually fact check
He’s waiting on his A-Z encyclopaedias to be delivered 🤦🏽♂️
@@79rookylol I guess you waiting on your dictionary?
Nobody in the comments section watched the video. Great job guys!
Fentanyl overdose results in respiratory depression. Sudden death can also occur because of cardiac arrest or severe anaphylactic reaction.
The estimated lethal dose of fentanyl in humans is 2 mg.
Blood concentrations of approx. 7 ng/ml or greater have been associated with fatalities where poly-substance use was involved.
2 micro grams, not milligrams. It's 2/thousandths of a milligram, or something like that.
@@Steve-ev6vx Microgram is “μg”. It’s 2 milligram, or 0.002g.
@@jesperpedersen3430OMG face palm mania. You guys are confusing a total dose with blood serum concentrations. All you have to look at is blood concentrations. Floyd's were WELL above the lethal limit, actually more than double them... He had 11ng/ml of fent plus 6ng/ml of norfent, for a combined of 17ng/ml. The fatal level is 7ng/ml... The ANATHESIA level is 10-20ng/ml, which you only live through because a specialized doctor is there giving you chemicals to keep you alive and bring you back once your surgery is don
Then add the fact George also had an insanely high amount of crystal meth serum levels of 19ng/ml when 3ng/ml are associated with toxicity and fatalities. All the "official coroner reports" said he died from asphyxiation, which is what happens from fentanyl OD 🤦🏼♂️🤦🏼♂️🤦🏼♂️
@@Steve-ev6vxit’s 200mcg but yes 2 mg is an lethal dose for 10 people .
I’ve been prescribe patches for years and had to build up a tolerance and was warned doubling my dose could be lethal. Democrats had to change the dosage to fit their narrative .
Not one mention of ol George fighting with the police for 45 minutes before he was put on the ground.
He is the epitome of ignorant about it and joe just entertains these types for balance and for the 3rd party watching and realizing themselves
In the unreleased footage, his own people in the car were telling him to stop resisting
So
What unreleased footage? All the body cam footage was released in 2020!
This debate is what's wrong with the modern world. Debating whether it's murder to let an overdosing drug addict go untreated (no Narcan) by non-medical personnel while medical personnel are en route. Saying we don't know if the drugs killed him is on equal footing with we don't know if the cops killed him, yet with fires burning around the court house we had a "trial" where any jury finding a different outcome would certainly have seen the mob at their house the day a not guilty verdict was handed out.
People should also watch “The Truth about George Floyd’s Death”.
It’s a discussion between Glenn Lowry and John McWhorter. It would be interested to hear peoples take on the video after watching it.
There is also another video called “The Whole George Floyd Story Was a Lie” where black author. I normally wouldn’t mention race but feel it’s relevant in this context.
Vince Everett Ellison who is an author of Crime Inc. gives his take on it as well. I think that is also an interesting watch and curious to know people’s thoughts as well.
It's a well-documented fact that they didn't like the results of the first autopsy so they shopped around until they got one that said what they wanted
Sounds like there is 2 people that should’ve watched the whole video. I believe it’s about 25-30 minutes.
Awful police work and murder/ manslaughter are two very different things. The kneeling was actually taught in the Minneapolis police academy and is obviously something that needed correction, but there is no justice in locking up officers for a crime when none was committed and the wrongs that were done were taught as control methods. If the officers didn’t cause this death they should never have been tried
They taught to cops to essentially stand on a perps neck for 10 minutes?
@@timbo7873 Essentially or actually? Do people get convicted in court for what they actually did or your perception of what they did? We both know that at no point did anyone stand on his neck. You are not being honest and it is not possible to have a discussion without honesty
@@calvinmoss3329stand or kneel…what’s the difference? Applying your body weight (kneel or stand) to someone’s neck, cutting off oxygen is the same thing.
@@joeb5212 Stand or kneel makes a huge difference in relating what actually occurred. If it makes no difference why not just tell the truth? As a factual matter, standing would deliver a more concentrated force and more body weight to the neck. Kneeling distributes the weight and limits ones ability to direct maximum pressure. You choose to say standing because words mean things and you want to lie.
@timbo7873
Shoulder blade, NOT neck. Watch the video
You can’t say what is “lethal doses of fentanyl” - maybe to someone with NO opiate habit. There are people who have huge fentanyl habits, he was also a huge guy! You have no idea how big Floyd’s habit is. Was he on opiate replacement therapy? As that puts your tolerance up even more.
Rogan speculating on what it was proper policework and not. It actually came out this was a taught technique from the Minneapolis Police Dept and he followed their procedure. The issue was all the underlying biological and chemical reasons at play that the cop could not have known about combined with an ambulance that was long delayed, prolonging the event.
Sure it is. They've been using this knee/neck technique for years. Go back and look at some of those old "Cops" shows.
It doesn't matter. Whitey must pay they say. It doesn't matter how.
I think he was also criticizing the police procedure
So is it fine to sit on somebody's neck for 8 minutes? Drugs or not. Really? You people are delusional 🤡.
Did they teach them to kneel on somebody’s neck for 9 minutes??
It was an accident. The guy brought it on himself. He was saying “I can’t breathe” way before the cops put him on the ground.
Chauvin still killed him regardless
University of JRE. That's one of the scariest things I've heard in a while
I dont like the cut of Neal's jib.
Jewish
@@full---movie That's solves all the questions many wanted to ask but didn't.
I did a line b4 and OD 2 hour later, when I was gonna sleep luckily my wife was there, regret my past , now clean for many years.
All my best bro! Just lost a buddy recently from fent laced cocaine. He didn't die until he was in bed for the night...just never woke up and his daughter tried to wake him in the morning 😔
That's strange. It hits you fast and is mostly worn off by two hours. It's really short acting.
He had been using for sure. The 3 meter maids didnt help the situation.
Fall of Minneapolis shows all the unreleased footage
The Truth
The difference is Joe has taken drugs and Neal knows people who take drugs. I’d rather believe Joe’s approach over Neal’s biased liberal approach lol. And Candace Owen’s documentary was never Debuked 😂. Floyd OD’ed and the courts kept that report from being used cause it would’ve destroyed their grifting and court case.
More right wing misinformation propaganda
Rogan knows nothing about Fentanyl, everything he says about it is wrong. He doesn't even think people do it on purpose. He just thinks they put it in coke.
Owens' propaganda piece was debunked tons. Just like all other far right propaganda pieces that you guys prop up and always deny are false.
He literally talks about taking DMT in this same podcast
🤣 taking drugs/taking drugs that are completely different than drugs with fentanyl in them is a different thing.. Joe knows literally nothing about this just like countless other things. Also, you’re gonna talk about “biased liberal approach” but then turn around and take Candace Owen’s who’s as biased towards conservatives as anyone seriously 🤣
Niel doesn't understand the insane amount of propaganda surrounding this story. Watch the full body cam, the guy was high as a kite
And he had a nigher dose of fentanyl in his system than many fentanyl fatalities according to autopsy reports. Thus it's a fact he had a potentially lethal dose of fentanyl in his system.
What's your point?!?!?!
@@bobbygetsbanned6049 So? Does that justify them killing him???
@@Tricklarock Since you're obviously not very smart, a lethal dose of fentanyl killed him, not the police. If you cannot overcome your biases to process facts, you have no business discussing the matter.
@@bobbygetsbanned6049 Hahahaaa, yeah man, you got me! I'm not sure where you obtained your medical/chemistry degree, but Fentanyl doesn't creep up slowly and kill you over the course of an hour or so . I'll try to educate you, but you seem to be omnipotent, so I'm sure you won't ingest it.
Anyway, Dr. Bobby - if you've taken a lethal dose of Fentanyl - or any other Opiate/Opioid, the first thing that's going to happen is that you'll go unconscious. If you don't, you sure as hell not have the motor control to struggle with cops! You sure as hell won't be able to yell 'I can't breathe' over the course of 8-10 minutes! What kills OD victims is they fall into respiratory depression. So if Fentanyl killed him, we wouldn't have even heard about this story. Hell, this story wouldn't have made it out of his part of town!
So why don't you educate yourself, instead of parroting what you saw on your favorite 'news site'
One last thing, Mr. Omnipotent. Do yourself a favor and watch a few vids of Kensington, Philadelphia. After you watch a few of those, ask yourself - could the people in these vids that are on less-than lethal doses of Fentanyl have the capacity to be walking around, passing fake bills, struggling with cops and fighting to breathe under a cop's knee for 10 minutes??? That amount of Adrenaline alone would've negated the effects of the Fentanyl enough to stay alive?!
So obviously this is a matter of common sense. If you do have it, it's clearly been replaced by politics and rhetoric. Of course the 1st thing you'll do is call me a liberal snowflake, and whatnot - but the fact is that I despise both major parties and politics in general. Neither party gives a flying duck about you or me, yet there's idiots on both sides that would practically die for their lame-ass 'team'!!!
"Overcome my biases...", "have no business discussing the matter...". I absolutely love how people project their shortcomings onto people they don't know the first thing about!
"Defund the police " wasn't literally what they want , these simpletons .
People act like Defund was an extreme reaction. When we have the most violent police of any nation. Cops are violent. If you don't believe that, you're avoiding facts. Try befriending a poor person
He was safely in the back seat of the police cruiser until he BEGGED them to let him out. When they did that's when the other two cops came and he was restrained on the ground.
Another interesting point...I've heard that the coroner of George Floyd was the one and the same coroner of Jeffery Epstein. In both instances the coroners decision has been questionable.
You resist arrest, you take your chances...whatever happens is on you.
So you're defending what happened?
@@MaddenFifaof course not the point is you play stupid games with fucked up cops and you win stupid prizes. How many times are we going to see cops abuse their authority and end up with another black man dead? The point is if you know this is true why are you even starting something? You have zero power in that situation. The only logical thing is to obey and take there ass to court. It’s just almost always they have 0 emotional control due to the lack of fathers in the home and overreact emotionally causing these situations.
Stay inside. Don't have kids. Your logic sucks.
@@MaddenFifawhat happened was Georgie boy got himself high, launched into an epic tizzy when the police approached him, and probably had a heart attack as a result.
@@MaddenFifa100%
Someone pointed this out on the main video, but they're confusing the mass of the ingested dose with the concentration in the blood after the fact. The units are obviously different: mg vs ng/mL. The levels found in the autopsy were enough to be lethal or at least to make breathing difficult.
The levels found in his system were on par with the amount administered to sedate someone by an anesthesiologist. Also, about half of what it would take the average person to die of. He was also a giant dude with high tolerance so it's highly unlikely that he died due to the drugs alone. Most likely, he died from a combination of cardiovascular issues, drugs and oxygen restriction via an awful police technique of kneeling on someone's neck/back.
2:38 it's insane to me that people who have such an important voice in culture like Rogan haven't actually seen the full video yet speak on these important matters without thinking twice... Floyd was definitely resisting arrest. In fact they tried multiple times to put him in the back of the police vehicle after he was handcuffed and he was kicking and screaming the entire time. Keep in mind, this is a BIG, strong man who was under the influence of hard drugs and god knows what else that these guys had to keep under control Had he not resisted, he wouldn't have been on the ground at all. I'm not excusing Chauvin or the rest of them, matter of fact i don't particularly like cops or am with the "back the blue" BS. I don't the majority are corrupt and bad, but i do think A LOT are simply because power corrupts all. Still, facts are facts.
How did you guys mess up the NG/ML part for fentanyl??? He had 11ng/ml ,the fatal dose is over 7ng/ml and anesthesia is 10-20ng/ml plus an insane amount of crystal meth and other drugs.
It's plain as day.
He was saying, I can’t breathe 10-15 minutes before he was on the ground.
yup
@@LRLLRLRR so allow everyone who says “I can’t breathe” to leave the scene and not be arrested?
If he couldn't breathe, then how was he able to keep saying he couldn't breathe for several minutes while on the ground? Funny thing about being unable to breathe is eventually the lungs are starved of air, which is necessary for speaking. Like how coughing is not a symptom of choking because to cough air must be able to move through the lungs. The full body cam video shows Floyd upright in a vehicle complaining that he can't breathe well before he was placed on the ground, likely due to complications he was having from the drugs found in his system. Body cam footage also showed that the cops' knee was not in a position where it would keep Floyd from breathing (more on the shoulder blade than the lungs), this why he was able to continue speaking for minutes while in the ground. He was panicking because he was having trouble breathing from the drugs in his system, not from being on the ground with someone leaning on his shoulder blade. Those are the facts of the situation the powers that be don't want you to know.
I keep seeing you people make this dumb argument.. That doesn’t mean kneeling on his neck for 9 minutes didn’t still kill him…
@@MySonsFather74wrong, he could’ve been coming in and out of being able to breathe, and when he’s able to breathe he’s saying he can’t breathe before going back into not being able to breathe… The whole “if you can talk you can breathe” argument is clearly flawed.
took you this long to know he died from an overdose?
That he didn’t. Yes it took Joe Rogan that long to know.
Yet when we said this at the time, we were apparently racist.. 🤷🏻♂️
Moral of the story - Facts don't care about your social justice bullshit
@@kloserlook
Bullshit. The average lethal level of fentanyl is just under 10 ng/mL and Saint Fentanyl Floyd was at 11ng/mL AND he also had 5.6ng/mL of norfentanyl. At peak before metabolism, Floyd was likely around 17ng/mL.
He absolutely died from OD they read the shit wrong@@kloserlook
@@kloserlook Shadaap Bot
the cops and Floyd were both wrong. we don't have to pick sides.....
Wrong.
@@collaborativedataaccounts3249 it sounds like you have something to say. please elaborate. id love to hear you out.
@@collaborativedataaccounts3249 good conversation
@@Reggieeeeeeee322
The police followed procedure. It’s not their fault GF swallowed a bunch of dope and failed to mention it to them.
He had previously been arrested and done the same thing. The difference is, the police were made aware of the dope he swallowed that time, and he lived.
@@Reggieeeeeeee322anytime somebody answers with a brief disagreement that offers no counter argument like saying “wrong”, it’s guaranteed some dumb clueless Trump supporter 😂
Well he’s 4 years drug free now.
you're a bad person.
The only claim that supports it was the coroners report
That thumbnail is wild
Lol his own passengers said he swallowed a f#ck ton of drugs🤦♂️
Here's the problem, two comics talking about what they saw somewhere or heard. Neither of them know what they're talking about. Rogan's out here opining like he's a forensic pathlogist.
He's insufferable
Neal will hear someone say the sky is green while hes looking at it and believe them
Neil is one of the “chosen ones,” he’s part of the club. It’s literally his MO to spread dangerous disinformation and propaganda.
Well thats what he heard. If he heard pigs have wings.....
That wasn’t police brutality
You didn’t show me whole film. It shows cop putting him in police car and him kicking and hollering that he couldn’t breathe. He was in the back of a police car
Yep, but that doesn't serve the narrative. Meanwhile, Chauvin was stabbed 30 times in jail for something he didn't do.
Police brutality happens you're not in the shoes of our American police force for one... We arnt protesting black on black crime or race related crime like stop picking and choosing and following the giant herd of sheep we have in this world think for your self
I believe the medical examiner agreed it was a lethal dose to most people but said George Floyd was bigger than average and also a drug user so this dose was most likely not lethal to him...
The original report released the actual levels. He did have 4 times the amount of lethal fentynal in his system.
Wow so Floyd was about to die that day and just happened to run into the police before he expired
Only in America you can make excuses for a cop that's a murderer. If ANY of your loved ones was a drug addict & had a sketchy past & had been arrested multiple times, if you saw them on the ground with a knee from a 200 pound cop on their head for 8 mins & 46 secs & they were pleading for their mom & saying they couldn't breathe & in that moment they died, 99% of you would say the cop killed them. Stop with the bs. Situations like this that are recorded for the world to see, yet people still want to argue with what actually happened are why this country has a rough time excelling to heights it should be at
I’m learning more and more that many comedians lean left.
No shit, most funny people lean left
Because the left is a joke.
@georgehornsby6882 oh if you knew the truth 😂
@@yourewrongabouteverything ooo intriguing. What’s “the truth”? Lol
Watch the entire body cam footage! And so look at the autopsy report
I get so sick of people acting smart, and ignoring facts. The fact is that the coroner DID NOT say that he was choked. But he DID say that there was no doubt that drugs alone or the treatment alone would not have killed him. It was a combination of factors. And the issue was not kneeling on his neck, it was putting him chest down and kneeling on his back. Don't believe me? Have your friend do it to you. He was already in distress, putting him in that position exacerbated it. And before you give me any nonsense quibbles, remember that he knelt on an unresponsive man for 6 minutes. While a crowd of people begged him to let him up. If he had, and g had died of an overdose, nothing would have come of it. Im sick of people trying to "own the libs" by telling me not to trust my lying eyes.
Absolutely, do not respond to me until you go back and watch the video. Then try to tell me that his treatment was fine
I have quite a few things to say on this. The prosecution's job is to prove beyond a shadow of doubt. If there is a sense of doubt with drugs being in Floyd's system, then you cannot say with absolute certainty that Chauvin is at fault for the death of Floyd, or at the very least that Chauvin is guilty of murder. The people that support Chauvin may support him 100 %, or they may come from where I do, in that the court did not prove that Chauvin committed 2nd degree murder. The prosecution failed and the judge and jury were swayed by public opinion and the threat of violence. From what was seen, police did try to accommodate Floyd, while Floyd passively time and time again resisted arrest. He got into a vehicle then exited the vehicle. It was after he continued to resist that police asked him to go down to the ground. When a suspect is cuffed they either have to comply, which Floyd refused to do, or you have to be held. Everyone saw the second video where Floyd appeared to be held down with a neck restraint. Nobody acknowledges what put Floyd in that position from the beginning.
metabolic syndrome as George had is an epidemic across the U.S. but even more so in lower income areas .
Is that Morty all grown up
The Police work was taught. It was in his handbook. It was approved by the government. Blame people above him. Not Derek Chauvin. George Floyd said he couldn't breathe many times before being knelt on/
Look at his first autopsy report and not the one the family had done
It's embarrassing to see how many people keep looking for ways to justify a clear case of police brutality.
You can't just go back in time and bring up someone's entire history, just to show that they weren't angels. Sorry, but placing the burden of culpability on the victim is incredibly stupid, and basically lays the claim that you are allowed to choke someone to death based on whether or not that person had a criminal record. What about the rest of us citizens who aren't perfect? At what point is a police officer not allowed to brutalize us?
Neil reminds me of that NY times “journalist” Joe kept destroying and she was like “I could be mistaken” after everything she said. Every time Joe debunks Neil he moves the goal post. While Joe is going on facts Neil is just “I’ve seen some things”.
Joe didn't debunk him, even Jamie corrected Joe's false claims
Joe didnt watch the trial.
I love how everybody gets worked up about this like they knew that man. The only reason people would get so worked up about someone they didn't know is they felt very strongly about what happened because either they are pro police, pro black or anti police or anti black. One of the four. And you are so much one of the four that the whole situation works you up into a tizzy. If this is the case you are the problem.
i DONT THINK YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT IS GOING ON. ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH THE RIOTS THAT WERE CAUSED, THE DAMAGES THEY CAUSED, THE INJURIES? ITS NOT JUST "THERES A VIEWPOINT, LETS MOVE ON." THE ISSUE IS THAT THERE ARE REPROCUSSIONS TO THE VIEWS AND PROPOGANDA THEY PUSH OUT MIXING TRUTH AND LIES IN ORDER TO INSIGHT PEOPLE TO RIOT TO OVERTHROW A SYSTEM AND CAUSE CHAOS, NOT TO TRY AND CORRECT THINGS, OR ADDRESS REAL ISSUES. THEY USE THE SITUATION TO DISRUPT ORDER AND TRY AND GET THEIR AGENDA THROUGH AND TO MANIPULATE SIMPLE PEOPLE WHO ACCEPT WHAT THEY ARE TOLD INSTEAD OF LOOKING AT FACTS AND MAKIN THEIR OWN DECISION.
You left out an option. People who get worked up about clearly false narratives and want to put the facts out there for people to form an educated opinion.
You think Mr MMA here would realize that if you're saying you can't breathe you are breathing
You could be coming in and out of being able and not being able to breathe… Which is why the whole “if you can talk you can breathe” argument is clearly flawed.
My one and only issue with the case is why did the officer stay on GF neck for 3 minutes after he was unresponsive? Is that police protocol? Even though he is cuffed AND unconscious to continue to kneel on him instead of administer aid?
Snowflake
One of my favorite things to see is the amount of people applying the average dosage to 1. A user 2. Someone who isn’t the average weight 😂. Show me dont know stats and probability without telling me
My favorite thing is when someone tries to debunk the argument by cherry-picking one of many facts, while ignoring the rest of the argument, that the guy already had a heart condition, was panicking, was claiming he couldn't breathe before the police even restrained him, and wasn't found to have died of asphyxia in the autopsy report as most of the people brainwashed by the initial media reports seem to believe.
Debunked? So he’s alive.
He’s still sober.
You mean to tell me this thing that happened when all the other fake stuff happened was fake !
So, if you have an blood clot in your head, that you may or may not know about, and you are sparring and a guy kicks you in your head which ruptures the aneurysm and you die; shouldn’t your opponent be charged with manslaughter or should be free of liability because you had a pre-existing?
I want Kevin Brennan’s perspective! 😂
Exactly one person could say something and if it fits people’s narrative they will push that.
Human beings aren’t perfect
But they are stupid....very very stupid (Neal brennan)
Is there a way to quantitaveley ascertain the amount of pressure applied by the officers knee by observing the video ?
He was using Floyd neck to hold his body off of the ground for 9 minutes. In that position, you literally can’t stay in that position without applying artificial pressure to his neck..
@@BobRoss-wm3lcWrong. Watch the actual body cam footage, not some dumb bystander with a cell phone and a false narrative to push!
@@Uarehere idk what’s funnier your awful excuse when any idiot can see he was on his neck, or your fake autopsy that doesn’t exist that you can provide a source for 🤡🤣
@@Uarehere the only false narrative are you weirdos who defend blatantly obvious police brutality. Send me a link to your phony autopsy. Again, I’ll wait, and you won’t have a link 🤣
@@Uarehere send me a link where his knee wasn’t on his neck and a link to that fake autopsy you keep talking about 🤣
This is from the trial and bodycam footage. He said he couldnt breathe and begged for his mom for over 20 mins while they tried to get him in the car. He was repeating the same thing while wheezing as soon as they got cuffs on him. They asked him what he took, no response
These are facts. He had over the average lethal dose of fentanyl (for a non addict) and also high levels (but not deadly often) of a fentanyl derivative. Also had reasonably high levels of meth. He had a badly enlarged heart and likely didnt know, while also having a pretty bad rap sheet with the cops knowing him and practicing standard police procedure in that city. The knee was not on the neck....sadly his own and their actions resulted in his death and i would put george floyds own as by fair the main causes
What scares me is how "trusted media sources" entertainers, politicians ran an obvious jaded side of the story almost as if to promote the over two years of mayhem caused and supported by those same ppl (blm, 2 billion in damages, many, many deaths and defunding of police which led to horrible ramifications for crime victims, complete demoralization of cops (think about when lebron james openly threatens you on twitter. Which happened) its that second part that ppl should be looking into
So Neals attitude is we saw what the police did we shouldn't look into whether a crackhead had drugs in his system. Sound like a sheeple.
He sounds like a 15 year old woke girl. Spent no time researching it
Y'all really made your point here. Throwing insults with no research or explanation is the way to convince people. Both of these comments prove you are also nothing more than sheeple little teenagers
It doesn’t matter that he had drugs in his system. It was terrible police work and the bad police went to jail. Simple
@@Vicious_17Gay. Very gay. Stop being gay.
That is incorrect. It matters because he wasn't tried for bad police work. He was tried for murder.
If you watch the entire video he was saying he could not breathe before he was on the ground. People are lazy. There were two reports and one shows he was overdosed
I heard he was chewing on a speed ball at the time ...
Peaceful protests........