I wanted to build kadenna as soon as they printed the skittering cicada card, and then again when they started spoiling the new "morph" cards from mkm. This list is super sweet!
The Taigam pilot here. My deck runs Arcane denial because it can read 'draw 3 cards on the next upkeep' when targeting one of our own, uncounterable spells. Its niche but it helps when youre stuck with a hand full of counters.
This was so cool to see - I have been playing Kadena for years in casual as my main deck, and have always thought she would translate well into cEDH. So glad to see someone putting up a result with such a sweet list!
Cool video as always Matthew, thanks. The only Kadena I saw outside of casual was pretty much flash wizard tribal.. It used things like German Rave Dance (Voidmage Prodigy), Bob (Dark Confidant). Teferi MoZ & Leyline of Anticipation because flash breaks the deck. It was also running some pretty cool utility lands; Like Alchemist's Refuge & Riptide Laboratory.
I love how similar that Kadena list is to my casual version lol Also the reason why Seedborn is nuts with Kadena is if you have flash (AKA creature Teferi) you get a free morph EVERY turn
Yay Lemora talk about my Version on Blues Clues (The Stranger Things) - MY conversion to full turbo has not happened I am midrange at heart I guess so some of the choices are more personal to be ready / to counter some synergies during Tournament Meta...imo at least :D
The Doorkeeper Thrull is a bit of personal spice, I like it for the ability to stop Dockside, Thoracle etc... but most Tayam pilots are not on it (yet)!
I've played a fair bit of Taigam, and Bribery is insane, particularly if you have a polymorph deck or Kinnan at the table. The meme for my playgroup is that Bribery exists to steal the stupidest creature in the Kinnan player's deck, which I'm always a fan of. Steal a Tidespout Tyrant/Hullbreaker Horror, etc. Biggest high for me was stealing a hullbreaker and 10 mana Jin Gitaxis off of the rebound. Won the game with beats off of that because of the draw 7.
Taigam pilot from the video here. Indeed Bribery is crazy and almost specifically built in due to the abundance of Kinnan decks nowadays. With a Blind Obedience on the field grabbing Tidesprout is an alternative wincon, and if there is a TOR on the field that prevents combat damage during our infinite we can grab a Thassa's. It's a skill intensive card though, that relies on knowing other people's primary combos, since you can sometimes just copy a Glinthorn-Malcolm line and win
With cedh making bigger mana cards that are more synergistic playable I can only think of my Thraximundar deck that played perplexing chimaera and Commandeer against cedh decks. I like how many people are trying to avoid interaction by using channel effects too and trying to stretch their removal outside of the realm people are used to dealing with. Eventually trickbind and tales end will be playable in the format.
fighting a good morph deck can be very annoying, especially with seedborn muse, since they always have mana to flip morphs. Combine that with a way to either flip a morph back faced down or to pop it to your hand and re-play it at flash speed, you can lock down the table. A morph deck is good at shutting down combos, but not great against direct combat beatdown. They really don't want to waste their valuable morphs for blocking, so smacking them before they get seedborn muse and a flash enabler out is how they're vulnerable. Also having a bunch of faced down morphs and free mana is a really good deterrent.
I would like to know what the top decks are winning with. By me the cEDH crowd seems to run the same base blue with other colors added in. While there are variance in the commanders that are being played the overlap of cards in the decks being played is very high. I ran one with a 5 color commander in it. Pick any it didn't matter I never intended to cast it. I had just the staple cEDH blue black cards in it mixed in 4 two card combos that had overlap and won. My lands all had blue and or black in them with the other three colors so I kept the appearance up and if I wanted to cast my commander. It was a lot of fun to play and see the table try to figure out what I was going to do. They mostly just kept fighting each other since the commanders they played were "meta". This showed me that the bones of the "meta" cEDH decks are the same, the last 30 cards you add are really the only variance in the format.
The most popular wincons are Thassa's Oracle and Demonic Consultation/Tainted Pact, Underworld Breach with Lion's Eye Diamond and Brain Freeze, and infinite mana loops, usually involving Kinnan and Basalt Monolith or Dockside Extortionist and one of the many ways to go infinite with it.
It has blue black in its color identity. Sometimes that's all you need. I'm brewing Be'lakor, the Dark Master now. If Atraxa can be good why can't Be'lakor be fringe? Just run a few of the Demon staples like Raz and Vilis and Doom Whisperer and a reanimation package and Black Market Connections for changelings and a Roaming Throne for fun. Then basically just staples. Not the best but I'm never going to be public enemy no1. Be'lakor is card advantage and a win con with Breach loops
Im’a tell you why Arcane Denial is more popular in Europe.. they have a better education system so those dudes can do math!😉 Sorry,.. Maths. But, seriously, play Arcane Denial because it’s great and the hive mind simply cannot count. And also, for EXACTLY the same reason, Wheels don’t suck because “they give your opponents more cards than you”.. again.. math🤔🤔🤔 Maths.😁
Which of these decks was your favorite? What's a spicy list you've seen recently? Let me know down below!
Etali is the best deck you can play… hands down
@@Gleebusaz it looks so sick, I've only played with it in the 99 but I gotta try it as a Commander soon.
I wanted to build kadenna as soon as they printed the skittering cicada card, and then again when they started spoiling the new "morph" cards from mkm. This list is super sweet!
I want zur daddy to do well so badly lol
@@rylandhaseltine4925 there was a list that got top 16 last month
The Taigam pilot here. My deck runs Arcane denial because it can read 'draw 3 cards on the next upkeep' when targeting one of our own, uncounterable spells. Its niche but it helps when youre stuck with a hand full of counters.
Do you have a moxfield link
Nice deck man
That Kadena deck was sweet
This was so cool to see - I have been playing Kadena for years in casual as my main deck, and have always thought she would translate well into cEDH. So glad to see someone putting up a result with such a sweet list!
Both semis and finals were 2+ hours, very wild games! Glad you showcased the deck, this commander deserves the love.
I was happy to!
Cool video as always Matthew, thanks.
The only Kadena I saw outside of casual was pretty much flash wizard tribal..
It used things like German Rave Dance (Voidmage Prodigy), Bob (Dark Confidant).
Teferi MoZ & Leyline of Anticipation because flash breaks the deck.
It was also running some pretty cool utility lands; Like Alchemist's Refuge & Riptide Laboratory.
I love how similar that Kadena list is to my casual version lol
Also the reason why Seedborn is nuts with Kadena is if you have flash (AKA creature Teferi) you get a free morph EVERY turn
If it's nearly the same as a cedh deck is it really a casual deck
@omeganova4332 There are only so many good morph cards lol
Yay Lemora talk about my Version on Blues Clues (The Stranger Things) - MY conversion to full turbo has not happened I am midrange at heart I guess so some of the choices are more personal to be ready / to counter some synergies during Tournament Meta...imo at least :D
The Doorkeeper Thrull is a bit of personal spice, I like it for the ability to stop Dockside, Thoracle etc... but most Tayam pilots are not on it (yet)!
I've played a fair bit of Taigam, and Bribery is insane, particularly if you have a polymorph deck or Kinnan at the table. The meme for my playgroup is that Bribery exists to steal the stupidest creature in the Kinnan player's deck, which I'm always a fan of. Steal a Tidespout Tyrant/Hullbreaker Horror, etc.
Biggest high for me was stealing a hullbreaker and 10 mana Jin Gitaxis off of the rebound. Won the game with beats off of that because of the draw 7.
Taigam pilot from the video here. Indeed Bribery is crazy and almost specifically built in due to the abundance of Kinnan decks nowadays.
With a Blind Obedience on the field grabbing Tidesprout is an alternative wincon, and if there is a TOR on the field that prevents combat damage during our infinite we can grab a Thassa's.
It's a skill intensive card though, that relies on knowing other people's primary combos, since you can sometimes just copy a Glinthorn-Malcolm line and win
I’m always rooting for Sultai, but even I would’ve never expected Kadena. So tight.
Def spicy! Love to see it! ❤❤❤
Notably, with Teferi Mage of Zhalfir you can use Kadena on each players turn
Yes but with a total of just 12 morphs in the deck, i think its just more of a stax piece with additional benefit.
With cedh making bigger mana cards that are more synergistic playable I can only think of my Thraximundar deck that played perplexing chimaera and Commandeer against cedh decks. I like how many people are trying to avoid interaction by using channel effects too and trying to stretch their removal outside of the realm people are used to dealing with. Eventually trickbind and tales end will be playable in the format.
Trickbind and tales end are already seeing play. Thraximundar definitely isn't lol
Kadena looks crazy? Is there a vod of that final game?
Missed a bit of spice in Kadena's land section - one of those has Disguise
I play with Rajjix every Friday and he combos the vesuvan shape shifter with Brine elemental, causing opponents (us) not to untap
That's so gross
fighting a good morph deck can be very annoying, especially with seedborn muse, since they always have mana to flip morphs. Combine that with a way to either flip a morph back faced down or to pop it to your hand and re-play it at flash speed, you can lock down the table. A morph deck is good at shutting down combos, but not great against direct combat beatdown. They really don't want to waste their valuable morphs for blocking, so smacking them before they get seedborn muse and a flash enabler out is how they're vulnerable.
Also having a bunch of faced down morphs and free mana is a really good deterrent.
Morph gang we up
I would like to know what the top decks are winning with. By me the cEDH crowd seems to run the same base blue with other colors added in. While there are variance in the commanders that are being played the overlap of cards in the decks being played is very high. I ran one with a 5 color commander in it. Pick any it didn't matter I never intended to cast it. I had just the staple cEDH blue black cards in it mixed in 4 two card combos that had overlap and won. My lands all had blue and or black in them with the other three colors so I kept the appearance up and if I wanted to cast my commander. It was a lot of fun to play and see the table try to figure out what I was going to do. They mostly just kept fighting each other since the commanders they played were "meta". This showed me that the bones of the "meta" cEDH decks are the same, the last 30 cards you add are really the only variance in the format.
The most popular wincons are Thassa's Oracle and Demonic Consultation/Tainted Pact, Underworld Breach with Lion's Eye Diamond and Brain Freeze, and infinite mana loops, usually involving Kinnan and Basalt Monolith or Dockside Extortionist and one of the many ways to go infinite with it.
It has blue black in its color identity. Sometimes that's all you need. I'm brewing Be'lakor, the Dark Master now. If Atraxa can be good why can't Be'lakor be fringe? Just run a few of the Demon staples like Raz and Vilis and Doom Whisperer and a reanimation package and Black Market Connections for changelings and a Roaming Throne for fun. Then basically just staples.
Not the best but I'm never going to be public enemy no1. Be'lakor is card advantage and a win con with Breach loops
With that new card that gives flash to all your spells on opponents end steps, can you morph things in at flash?
Yep!
@@LemorasCards that’s disgusting returns.
@@LemorasCards so that’s draw 4 cards for 0 mana per set of turn cycles provided you have the morphs. And it works around rule of law type effects.
after playing so much Tayam i feel like it needs the moonglove just as an alt wincon lol
Europeans are living in the future
Promo'SM
Im’a tell you why Arcane Denial is more popular in Europe.. they have a better education system so those dudes can do math!😉
Sorry,.. Maths.
But, seriously, play Arcane Denial because it’s great and the hive mind simply cannot count.
And also, for EXACTLY the same reason, Wheels don’t suck because “they give your opponents more cards than you”.. again.. math🤔🤔🤔 Maths.😁
first!