You’ll get hit with the “he’s laying low now that he’s being accused” even if you whiff edit: after watching the video further that is indeed exactly what happened.
It is not such an outlandish accusation. Aimbots can be turned on and off with a button press. I have seen it multiple times that the top scoring sniper with stock loadout and lvl 0 steam profile suddenly has terrible aim when being accused of cheating.
Exactly what happened to this W+M1 on the enemy team once. I was playing on an alt in this occasion which is still 8 years old at this point, but I heard flames behind me so I flick backwards and pop this Pyroid twice with my FaN, killing him. That was all it took for him to call me a cheater (because apparently I snapped perfectly backwards and shot him instantly), and because my alt didn't have many cosmetics and I also was Casual level 1 still for some reason, they all assumed immediately I was cheating and votekicked me.
'he has to be cheating' >misses two shots, with tracer to prove it, resulting in him having to finish the guy off with his SMG 'i'mma pretend i didn't see that'
he does pretend. they all do, they pretend they're resident cheat experts and cheaters just disable aimbot methodically, applying it to only the accuser. not at all what cheats are programmed to do.
@@skarloeythomas5172I know this kinda undermines your comment but I legit had a scout who for some reason despised me and flipped some switch that made his character randomly 180 meatshot me whenever I walked by him on Hightower. As far as I could tell his guy was totally normal otherwise but I was using a lot of Force a Nature to jump around and escape him and I think it just pissed him off or something.
I wouldn't be surprised if some of these people just made fake hackusations for the slight chance that you'd get kicked and therefore not be able to keep destroying them
Always love the mental gymnastics of "He has god aim and then turns his hacks off so it isn't suspicious" instead of the Occam's Razor argument that maybe the guy has god aim but is simply an imperfect human being.
@Fatmagic I used to think like that when I was a kid, and it may simply come from a place of self-percieved superiority, afterall "I'm pretty good at this game, so I shouldn't die *that* fast to some random guy on a server, regardless of what they use, so they must be cheating to match/exceed my skill".
@@Fatmagic Funny thing is, from what I've seen YES a Hacker CAN do that, but from every cheat bar I've seen, you need to navigate a menu. If you have a button to turn it on/off, I've never seen an aimbot like that. Though then again, my only sight of it was once in a GMod server video and Hacked Clients for 2b2t. And the question is, why would a hacker ONLY have aimbot?
@@skullzans I used cheats on anarchy minecraft servers (Wurst + baritone) and you could easily bind toggles on any key you like, there was even a panic button to turn everything off. I wouldn't be surprised if this could be done in tf2 cheat clients as well. Nevertheless, it IS pretty pathetic when people keep whining about cheats even when it's clear that their opponent is just Good™
I ran into captain tanuki in a swiftwater server today. I said "is that THE captain tanuki from the fatmagic video??" jokingly and he just typed "Please don't" he sounded so exhausted, poor bastard.
I mean, I think he was just trying to help the lobby by not having any cheaters there, and me personally if it's between having someone innocent get kicked or having a guilty cheater not get kicked? I think everyone would agree it's better to not keep a guilty cheater in
@@ivannatinkle8196 firm believer in innocent until proven guilty, I think it's stupid to kick people unless there is concrete proof they've cheated but sadly the majority of the TF2 community doesn't need concrete proof because of the rampant bot and cheating problem
@@st204-5sfe I feel like it mostly depends on the situation, if someone's life is on the line then yeah innocent until proven guilty, but if it's just a matter of clicking the que for casual button again I think it's better to be safe than sorry
Medieval Italian farmhand: this job is so hard, but I'm glad I'm able to provide for my family The wizard about to curse him with 56 years of bad harvest: 14:27
Comment 3:49 : "no way he was able to snap onto my head that fast" Kill: 3:36 : *scout walking in a straight line to a sniper* I don't get why people can't just accept that someone is better than them.
It's a bad case of loser syndrome that they tend to have, despite this, I sometimes have salt syndrome from facing against a pro, but nothing major is said or of the sort, normally I just leave and join another server, lol.
@@shouzhengtang2692 wdym ranked? This is casual gamemode, we just play for fun or killing. Casual "badges" are just "my playtime", not really a rank if you think hard about it.
6:45 "He would have god aim, and randomly his aim would turn trash" or alternatively "he sometimes misses his shots but also sometimes hit." Perhaps one of the weirdest takes for accusing someone of cheating.
@@VanessaMagick Now try explaining why I was kicked from Dustbowl Last on Blu by 10 or 11 of my team when I backstabbed a spawncamping dominating Phlog Pyro while having Spy as one of my worst classes. I just used Cloak & Dagger, then stabbed him right after his Phlog Taunt ended, he wasn't invincible anymore. It was fair game.
@@101Volts I can't explain a damn thing. I've been accused of cheating on Pyro far more than I have on Sniper, and that's even with me shooting random corners to headshot Spies out of common cloak spots (with occasional success)
I seen a comment about him where he said “He’s not a cheater, he’s worse than that. He’s a dedicated sniper main who understands all aspects of the character and maps.” Which I couldn’t agree more.
Hi, it's j0jo! Wow, it was fun playing with you that day, and I'm glad I was able to duel you! Beating you in one had me ecstatic, it really made my day! But sorry if I had a medic up me most of the time, I think I said in the chat that I didn't want to be pocketed and wanted to beat you fairly. But do not fear, Fatmagic. I will be watching. I will be back. And I WILL beat you again. Hehehe ... hahaha ... MUAHAHAHAHA!!!
"The Machina allows for players, both friendly and enemy, to see the sniper's shot due to the team coloured tracer round. With these tracer rounds you will be able to not only tell where a Sniper is, but also if he has missed or not." These guys must have short-term memory lost with how they just forgot that you can see if the Sniper is missing or not when they're using the machina
@@deringjosuegarcia1531 Like half the enemies in this video just straight up ignore the tracer rounds. Not to mention Tanuki was crying about being shot invisi while walking in front of their entire team coming out of spawn. Some TF2 players are just built lobotomized.
@@darkuscarletTanuki is a prime example of Spies who have bad movement when invisible because even if you are invisible you can’t just waltz in front of your team & expect yourself to not get caught in the crossfire.
@@BalloonTombs 9:49 And we can't forget that after spawning, all the players on your team have a silhouette, and this includes spy enemies WHO HAVE THE DISGUISE IN ACTION, so it's obvious that an experienced sniper will know that there is a spy nearby.....when out of nowhere a SILHOUETTE APPEARS BEHIND A ROCK... AND ON TOP OF ALL HE DOESN'T WAIT FOR ENEMIES TO PASS, clearly that guy doesn't know how to play AND doesn't know about the game's mechanics.
It's so disappointing seeing these obvious cheaters play without any consequences firstly the creamy man and now this penguin guy. Thank you for exposing these horrible cheaters Mr. fatmagician
One thing I've learned from playing a lot of sniper, you learn to watch every part of your screen, including what you can only see out of the corner of your eye and people dont realize that is possible, forgetting that wider FoVs are possible. people often also forget headsets exist and that snipers sometimes can actually hear you and might have enough game sense to react to sounds. i swear the bots have just blinded tf2 gamers into thinking that any amount of decent aim or even simple game sense as a sniper is automatically aimbot/wallhacks/cheating as a whole
> Disguised as scout (anyone can easily tell you are slower than a scout) > Surrounded by 3 of your teammates (you are not shooting them and they are not shooting you, you are obviously a spy) > *Fatmagic misses* > "Yeah he's cheating there's no way"
"gosh, i can't figure out why this sniper only turns around when I decloak five feet behind him! It's almost like he can HEAR me decloak, or something!"
Gotta pay some respect to the dueler guy, no meltdown in chat and no accusations from him. He probably saw you being called a cheater and decided to take this challenge. True uwu master
>he shot me while he wasn't looking at me meanwhile they're playing spy. imagine if everytime a spy got a facestab we said 'they werent even behind me' and vac banned them
Honestly dude if I was fighting a cracked Machina Sniper with complaints on his profile that stayed completely silent yet taunted everyone that hackusated him, I'd probably think he's cheating, too. The unfortunate reality of modern TF2 is that closet cheaters and really strong Snipers are easy to confuse, and the only way to realistically defend yourself when you're accused is to act like a decent human being, which many cheaters simply fail to do. Doesn't help when the real cheaters are the ones kicking you, though! :(
It's especially dumb proof because a user is free to delete any comments on their profile. A person secretly cheating would just remove the messages...
The Medic in the beginning who acknowledged the lack of a VAC ban, but also the comments, and decided to just keep an eye on Fatmagic had the right idea. If you're suspicious, look for evidence yourself, don't blindly listen to everyone else.
LargeEnchantment still getting away with his flawless aimbot of missing 5 shots and having to finish someone off with an SMG. When will he be stopped!?
I love how when he misses they say his aim turns to trash for not having 100% accuracy but when he suddenly gets 2 headshots in a row he's instantly a cheater.
Like forcing everyone to group up at Upward last and defending for 8 minutes is the upward special, Fatmagic fumbling 5 shots then getting accused of cheating is the Fatmagic Special.
1:39 If they're messing around and having fun while NOT actually playing the game, that's strike one that they're NOT a cheater. If they actually respond, presumably in a genuine fashion that isn't just a bind, that's strike 2 that they're not a cheater. If they're ACTUALLY taking legitimate deaths, like what happened earlier, and actually missing their shots even if they're good, that's, like... strike 2 and a half. If they're not being toxic, that's strike 3 and you've gotta see what's REALLY going on lmao. At that point you ask them if they're a youtuber. Also Machina is best "I'm _actually_ not cheating, seriously" proof weapon 1:47 Legit just messing around That a SERIOUS piece of evidence. It means winning the game isn't all that matters to them.
I just want to say, shoutout to FusionKD (the medic on pier) for actually looking into it and coming to their own conclusion. Disappointingly few people actually do that
I expected this to be mostly one-sided drama, but this was actually a really fun adventure! high-stakes crit rocket surprises, amazing damage surfing, super fun chatty dialogues, very silly antagonistic players, even nail-biting duels... this basically had it all.
6:52 kind of a catch 22 if the sniper you're accusing suddenly having "trash aim" means he's a cheater that toggled off but if he still lands shots after the accusation then that also proves he's cheating
19:18 really interesting how despite chuk benis having 10 more kills than fatmagic, fatmagic is the “obvious hacker.” I thought sniper was supposed to be OP? How is a HACKING SNIPER getting fewer kills than a legit demo??? People just have a permanent hateboner for sniper lmao
The thing with sniper is that most people will not be able to see the shots you miss. Only those you land, and if someone gets headshot 5 times in a row by the same sniper, their ego tends to bruise, despite the 15 shots the sniper might have missed in between
I must confess that I did also believe Magic to be cheating for quite some time. Until I saw Vorobey's video on the matter. And I realised that when watching real cheater rounds compared to Fat's rounds, you can clearly see that what V said about the hit-reg and all of that actually happens with Magic as well. People just never looked at the right frames all along. Which is why I wanted to apologise for thinking you were using game assist tools for so long. Keep on being a good sniper mate! Cheers!
Something similar to this happened to me earlier today. Thankfully someone I know was on the other team and I didn't get kicked. It's really funny how convinced some people get.
We all get that feelilng sometimes that someone is targeting/focusing us. Seeing what you have to put up with is at a whole nother level. Not just the non stop accusations but the demos and soliders bombing, endless supply of spies etc. You always keep your cool though. A creamy inspiration:)
These people obviously don't watch fatmagic if they throw these hackusations around. That's why they're losing, they're not students in the ways of being good at the video games. There was a vaccinator medic in that first game briefly. I want to see fatmagic get in a fight with a pair like that, it's the perfect counter practically speaking.
I love the scouts that rush you regardless of danger, just to die after they get you. Truly some sweaty scout gameplay happening on the other side of that screen. And the Spies just feel like mafia situations; around 3 or 4 guys in the first round back to back trying to take out this one sniper, and then some spy on spy/sniper action in 11:04, truly spectacular!
I love how it seems half the enemy was focusing you out every person in multiple firefights, even having multiple spies just trying to get you specifically.
Never noticed I would appear in Fatmagics video and I feel both honored and embarrassed to falsely accuse you of cheating 3; Though after looking at the video I gotta admit he’s a dang good sniper, much like Jpeg with scout or MrSwipez with spy so props to you magic, still sorry for accusing you of cheating ;3
Fun fact: while watching I noticed you from a casual Fastlane server several months ago. You're a damn good spy main. Also, can't blame you for accusing him of cheating.
>gets accused of cheating
>immediately misses 6 shots
>still accused of cheating
Fatmagic classic
You’ll get hit with the “he’s laying low now that he’s being accused” even if you whiff
edit: after watching the video further that is indeed exactly what happened.
No no you guys dont get it, he has bad aimbot.
@@Coercioner Angel Kronk: *No, he got a point*
Classic bad player moment
It is not such an outlandish accusation. Aimbots can be turned on and off with a button press. I have seen it multiple times that the top scoring sniper with stock loadout and lvl 0 steam profile suddenly has terrible aim when being accused of cheating.
> does nothing to avoid getting headshot
> "guys you might have a cheater 🤓"
Worse than that, running directly in the crossfire of the main fight and being surprised he died
@@hookfancy9879 yeah as light classes i typically dont walk out the front gate instantly, because shit like that happens to me all the time
i love that he has a tracer behind his shots and they still think he cheats
Even with ten hours with spy, you could tell that you will get into a shit ton of crossfires whether you like it or not.
Exactly what happened to this W+M1 on the enemy team once. I was playing on an alt in this occasion which is still 8 years old at this point, but I heard flames behind me so I flick backwards and pop this Pyroid twice with my FaN, killing him. That was all it took for him to call me a cheater (because apparently I snapped perfectly backwards and shot him instantly), and because my alt didn't have many cosmetics and I also was Casual level 1 still for some reason, they all assumed immediately I was cheating and votekicked me.
Another horrible case of Plus sized sorcerer using horrible cheats (mouse two + mouse one) to terrorize innocent tf 2 players
Yes i cri everitim
Its only 2 players
Plus sized palmist
We need to vote ban this guy in real life.
Bro thought he cooked with this one. In fact he did not.
'he has to be cheating'
>misses two shots, with tracer to prove it, resulting in him having to finish the guy off with his SMG
'i'mma pretend i didn't see that'
he does pretend. they all do, they pretend they're resident cheat experts and cheaters just disable aimbot methodically, applying it to only the accuser. not at all what cheats are programmed to do.
@@skarloeythomas5172I know this kinda undermines your comment but I legit had a scout who for some reason despised me and flipped some switch that made his character randomly 180 meatshot me whenever I walked by him on Hightower. As far as I could tell his guy was totally normal otherwise but I was using a lot of Force a Nature to jump around and escape him and I think it just pissed him off or something.
@@imaforceanature7297 hightower is a hell of cheaters.
if you want to make a cheater-related content farm - hightower is THE map.
Lil kids talk like no one good at the game. Classic bad gamer moments
@@catmaksimusVorobey can tell you all about it, that’s for sure.
Won the duel, lost the match.
Won the match but lost the duel.
And thus Balance was restored to the Bean Kingdom
I wouldn't be surprised if some of these people just made fake hackusations for the slight chance that you'd get kicked and therefore not be able to keep destroying them
I have gotten that plenty of times before as well haha
That's a commonly used strategy to get rid of good players. They will say things like "kick him, known cheater."
i also wouldn't be surprised if they made the hackusations just to fuck with fatmagic.
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@@ColonelKlink1965This is funny asf considering Jpeg went through something exactly like this
You know whats funnier about all of this. Hes using the Machina the entire time YOU CAN LITERALLY SEE EVERY SHOT HE MISSES ON BOTH TEAMS
3:26 I love how panicked he looks when he hears fall damage over anything else
To be fair it sounds like someone landed right next to him and instantly vanished.
You can catch a lot of sneaky spies listening for fall crunch
@@moonlightning8269fall crunch sounds like a seasonal cereal brand
Always love the mental gymnastics of "He has god aim and then turns his hacks off so it isn't suspicious" instead of the Occam's Razor argument that maybe the guy has god aim but is simply an imperfect human being.
Its so funny how the most obvious answer is not the one they pick haha. I equate it to "thinking too much"
@Fatmagic I used to think like that when I was a kid, and it may simply come from a place of self-percieved superiority, afterall "I'm pretty good at this game, so I shouldn't die *that* fast to some random guy on a server, regardless of what they use, so they must be cheating to match/exceed my skill".
@@Fatmagic Funny thing is, from what I've seen YES a Hacker CAN do that, but from every cheat bar I've seen, you need to navigate a menu. If you have a button to turn it on/off, I've never seen an aimbot like that. Though then again, my only sight of it was once in a GMod server video and Hacked Clients for 2b2t. And the question is, why would a hacker ONLY have aimbot?
@@skullzans I used cheats on anarchy minecraft servers (Wurst + baritone) and you could easily bind toggles on any key you like, there was even a panic button to turn everything off. I wouldn't be surprised if this could be done in tf2 cheat clients as well. Nevertheless, it IS pretty pathetic when people keep whining about cheats even when it's clear that their opponent is just Good™
Fair, I lack experience, ty for correction.
I ran into captain tanuki in a swiftwater server today. I said "is that THE captain tanuki from the fatmagic video??" jokingly and he just typed "Please don't" he sounded so exhausted, poor bastard.
I mean, I think he was just trying to help the lobby by not having any cheaters there, and me personally if it's between having someone innocent get kicked or having a guilty cheater not get kicked? I think everyone would agree it's better to not keep a guilty cheater in
@@ivannatinkle8196 firm believer in innocent until proven guilty, I think it's stupid to kick people unless there is concrete proof they've cheated but sadly the majority of the TF2 community doesn't need concrete proof because of the rampant bot and cheating problem
@@st204-5sfe I feel like it mostly depends on the situation, if someone's life is on the line then yeah innocent until proven guilty, but if it's just a matter of clicking the que for casual button again I think it's better to be safe than sorry
Deserved! ❤
@@ivannatinkle8196 idk man captain tanuki was just kind of making shit up which is pretty lame
Medieval Italian farmhand: this job is so hard, but I'm glad I'm able to provide for my family
The wizard about to curse him with 56 years of bad harvest: 14:27
Comment 3:49 : "no way he was able to snap onto my head that fast"
Kill: 3:36 : *scout walking in a straight line to a sniper*
I don't get why people can't just accept that someone is better than them.
It's a bad case of loser syndrome that they tend to have, despite this, I sometimes have salt syndrome from facing against a pro, but nothing major is said or of the sort, normally I just leave and join another server, lol.
as a person who accused a legit sniper before, we're just copium addicts.
Because tf2 ranked system sucks, people have no upper bound on how good a player is
@@shouzhengtang2692 wdym ranked? This is casual gamemode, we just play for fun or killing. Casual "badges" are just "my playtime", not really a rank if you think hard about it.
@@catmaksimus It still uses an MMR system, just behind the scenes, so you get matched with good players if you do well.
7:15 - that soldier actually noticed Fatmagic and did the limbo strategy to avoid getting headshotted. Smart fella!
I always wondered if that worked because I was never good at understanding tf2 game mechanics and hitboxes
6:45 "He would have god aim, and randomly his aim would turn trash" or alternatively "he sometimes misses his shots but also sometimes hit." Perhaps one of the weirdest takes for accusing someone of cheating.
Sniper hits the shot: Godly aim, inhuman, obvious hacks
Sniper misses the shot: Trash aim, complete garbage etc
I mean if you ignore the shots he hits, his aim IS pretty bad.
i think this is magically what we call "being a normal sniper"
@@VanessaMagick Now try explaining why I was kicked from Dustbowl Last on Blu by 10 or 11 of my team when I backstabbed a spawncamping dominating Phlog Pyro while having Spy as one of my worst classes. I just used Cloak & Dagger, then stabbed him right after his Phlog Taunt ended, he wasn't invincible anymore. It was fair game.
@@101Volts I can't explain a damn thing. I've been accused of cheating on Pyro far more than I have on Sniper, and that's even with me shooting random corners to headshot Spies out of common cloak spots (with occasional success)
I seen a comment about him where he said “He’s not a cheater, he’s worse than that. He’s a dedicated sniper main who understands all aspects of the character and maps.” Which I couldn’t agree more.
17:50 if that's not projection i don't know what is
fatmagic never fails to fill me up with his magic until im fat
Ok?….
Wtf?
This comment gave me aids.
WHAT DOES THIS MEAN
Yo bro, wth?
Hi, it's j0jo! Wow, it was fun playing with you that day, and I'm glad I was able to duel you! Beating you in one had me ecstatic, it really made my day! But sorry if I had a medic up me most of the time, I think I said in the chat that I didn't want to be pocketed and wanted to beat you fairly.
But do not fear, Fatmagic.
I will be watching.
I will be back.
And I WILL beat you again.
Hehehe ... hahaha ... MUAHAHAHAHA!!!
I always love a duel :)
hehehe ... then you know where to find me >:)
J0jo has good pfp... well in the video
wtf, my thumbs up PFP is a classic T-T
Based AF
Even when after the spawn wall hacks been out for over like 4-5 years people still don’t seem to realize they can see you in disguise
It’s the post mym version of the all talk bubble lmao
"The Machina allows for players, both friendly and enemy, to see the sniper's shot due to the team coloured tracer round. With these tracer rounds you will be able to not only tell where a Sniper is, but also if he has missed or not." These guys must have short-term memory lost with how they just forgot that you can see if the Sniper is missing or not when they're using the machina
You'd think that downside of the weapon would make it easier for players to tell of someone is a cheater or not, guess TF2 players are build different
@@deringjosuegarcia1531 Like half the enemies in this video just straight up ignore the tracer rounds. Not to mention Tanuki was crying about being shot invisi while walking in front of their entire team coming out of spawn. Some TF2 players are just built lobotomized.
@@darkuscarletTanuki is a prime example of Spies who have bad movement when invisible because even if you are invisible you can’t just waltz in front of your team & expect yourself to not get caught in the crossfire.
@@BalloonTombs 9:49 And we can't forget that after spawning, all the players on your team have a silhouette, and this includes spy enemies WHO HAVE THE DISGUISE IN ACTION, so it's obvious that an experienced sniper will know that there is a spy nearby.....when out of nowhere a SILHOUETTE APPEARS BEHIND A ROCK... AND ON TOP OF ALL HE DOESN'T WAIT FOR ENEMIES TO PASS, clearly that guy doesn't know how to play AND doesn't know about the game's mechanics.
> walks into sniper sight line
> dies
> "FREAKING CHEATERS RAAAGH!"
The hunter scream played in my head on the RAAAAGH
0:41 his butt is really itchy
Best comment.
Man I love spore
Spore?
@@AeyakS op's profile pic is the spore logo
Good one :D
It's so disappointing seeing these obvious cheaters play without any consequences firstly the creamy man and now this penguin guy. Thank you for exposing these horrible cheaters Mr. fatmagician
I miss old tf2 where there was less paranoia due to skill
I would say the bot crisis broke people. But I was getting this even in those days too haha
@@FatmagicTheir fear of the large sorcerer transcends time
Maybe 10 years ago there weren't any 10k hours autistic headclickers pubstomping for their amusement
well there’s so many cheaters in pubs these days I don’t exactly blame people for being suspicious
Bro people throwed hackusations way back then as well, there is a pretty funny Tagg video where he gets accussed as well
13:33 This has to be the new Fatmagic damage sound. I demand it.
One thing I've learned from playing a lot of sniper, you learn to watch every part of your screen, including what you can only see out of the corner of your eye and people dont realize that is possible, forgetting that wider FoVs are possible. people often also forget headsets exist and that snipers sometimes can actually hear you and might have enough game sense to react to sounds. i swear the bots have just blinded tf2 gamers into thinking that any amount of decent aim or even simple game sense as a sniper is automatically aimbot/wallhacks/cheating as a whole
I agree 100%
Write a book TLDR
> Disguised as scout (anyone can easily tell you are slower than a scout)
> Surrounded by 3 of your teammates (you are not shooting them and they are not shooting you, you are obviously a spy)
> *Fatmagic misses*
> "Yeah he's cheating there's no way"
13:34 “man I’m on a good kill streak”
Random crit rocket:
Profile says:
> No VAC Bans
> No Game Bans
> Comments saying cheats
"yeah the comments say he cheats so he cheats"
7:12 shounic anti-headshot tech!!!
"gosh, i can't figure out why this sniper only turns around when I decloak five feet behind him! It's almost like he can HEAR me decloak, or something!"
No they can’t All snipers are deaf and can only see. If they hear they are cheating.
@@DegmoGrandfatherAnd don't forget that they can only see in a 20° radius in front of them, any more and they're hacking
Gotta pay some respect to the dueler guy, no meltdown in chat and no accusations from him. He probably saw you being called a cheater and decided to take this challenge. True uwu master
Yes, I am the uwu master :3
I think it's extra funny that you use the machina and so they all can see when you miss, but choose to act like they don't.
Fatmagic's lawyer going to court at least once a year over these aimbot trials must feel like a tuesday
FusionKD on fatmagic's team: I dont think he's cheating
FusionKD on enemy team: yea i'm pretty confident he's cheating
"They're only cheating when they're against me"
13:33 funniest reaction to a crit rocket ever
counter strike death sound effect
my guys in dark souls when i fall 1 inch and die of fall damage
ngl hes pretty suspicious, it's like he has headphones or some other cheating tool like that
I bet he might modified his gaming chair!!
He could use it a chance to both promote his channel and prove he's just better
>he shot me while he wasn't looking at me
meanwhile they're playing spy. imagine if everytime a spy got a facestab we said 'they werent even behind me' and vac banned them
now that i would be behind
i love the soldier at 7:14 he was doing the strat where you hide your head hitbox behind your body
Honestly dude if I was fighting a cracked Machina Sniper with complaints on his profile that stayed completely silent yet taunted everyone that hackusated him, I'd probably think he's cheating, too.
The unfortunate reality of modern TF2 is that closet cheaters and really strong Snipers are easy to confuse, and the only way to realistically defend yourself when you're accused is to act like a decent human being, which many cheaters simply fail to do. Doesn't help when the real cheaters are the ones kicking you, though! :(
Do you think any of the accusers find Fatmagic's videos and feel stupid for calling out a legit player?
If I’ll be honest here I feel like most of these videos are staged.
@@thehaze3 why would he stage this
@@Spooktatonot saying he is but hed do it for the views
@@azuknow1653 no he wouldn’t, people are actually that deranged
The next stage of accusations has begun
"They say you're cheating, because there are some comments on your profile saying you're cheating"
Oh well that's irrefutable proof right there lmao
me omw to comment "cheater" under every 12v12 casual server profile i see
It's especially dumb proof because a user is free to delete any comments on their profile. A person secretly cheating would just remove the messages...
The Medic in the beginning who acknowledged the lack of a VAC ban, but also the comments, and decided to just keep an eye on Fatmagic had the right idea. If you're suspicious, look for evidence yourself, don't blindly listen to everyone else.
when Fatmagic said:
"UuuugheAaeghehaAH" at 13:35 I felt that
>runs in a straight line directly at a sniper who is scoped in and looking at him
>gets shot
>>guys, he's hacking!
TF2 players in a nutshell
Fatmagic when Slimmugglery/Thinnormalcy walks in
That one guy that said being a sniper main is the same thing as being a cheater is chronically salty lmao
You are not allowed to play 11.1111% of the games content 😂
@@Fatmagicyou need cosmetics to play as sniper in 2024 apparently
That uh
that was pretty obviously a joke
..
You know that right? I'm just making sure.
@@Xioverze He does have the Skull Island Topper in some video's and the Monoculus in some other video's.
LargeEnchantment still getting away with his flawless aimbot of missing 5 shots and having to finish someone off with an SMG. When will he be stopped!?
It must be a pain to main sniper due to the amount of times you probably get kicked out of your matches for your skill
That ending was SHOCKING
I love how when he misses they say his aim turns to trash for not having 100% accuracy but when he suddenly gets 2 headshots in a row he's instantly a cheater.
I love the sus sound effect every single time a spy appears or fails a stab
> literally walks directly into Sniper's sightlines
> gets headshot
> "Guys you might have a cheater"
Some things truly never change
Like forcing everyone to group up at Upward last and defending for 8 minutes is the upward special, Fatmagic fumbling 5 shots then getting accused of cheating is the Fatmagic Special.
1:39
If they're messing around and having fun while NOT actually playing the game, that's strike one that they're NOT a cheater.
If they actually respond, presumably in a genuine fashion that isn't just a bind, that's strike 2 that they're not a cheater.
If they're ACTUALLY taking legitimate deaths, like what happened earlier, and actually missing their shots even if they're good, that's, like... strike 2 and a half.
If they're not being toxic, that's strike 3 and you've gotta see what's REALLY going on lmao.
At that point you ask them if they're a youtuber.
Also Machina is best "I'm _actually_ not cheating, seriously" proof weapon
1:47
Legit just messing around
That a SERIOUS piece of evidence. It means winning the game isn't all that matters to them.
I just want to say, shoutout to FusionKD (the medic on pier) for actually looking into it and coming to their own conclusion. Disappointingly few people actually do that
And then later he turns around and accuses him anyways
I expected this to be mostly one-sided drama, but this was actually a really fun adventure! high-stakes crit rocket surprises, amazing damage surfing, super fun chatty dialogues, very silly antagonistic players, even nail-biting duels... this basically had it all.
Ofc the first second of the clip Spy dying out of nowhere 😂
The flattest of Magics
“He only uses cheats when he kills me”
13:32 The absolute GUTTURAL reaction to a crocket
Captain Tanuki: "He would have god aim, and randomly his aim would turn to trash."
You ever be so good at a game that you turn your enemy into a paranoid schizophrenic?
True mental damage
6:52 kind of a catch 22 if the sniper you're accusing suddenly having "trash aim" means he's a cheater that toggled off but if he still lands shots after the accusation then that also proves he's cheating
Fatmagic's video about how he gets accused of cheating while he's just creaming and dueling a sniper furry, truly a horsefly moment.
even with that weapon that CLEARLY shows youre missing shots and still get accused of cheating, everyone is just mad or blind
That taunt at 7:00 is what sent that man right over the edge I'm telling you.
19:18 really interesting how despite chuk benis having 10 more kills than fatmagic, fatmagic is the “obvious hacker.” I thought sniper was supposed to be OP? How is a HACKING SNIPER getting fewer kills than a legit demo??? People just have a permanent hateboner for sniper lmao
It is the same with ‘no skill w+m1 gibus phlog pyro’
The thing with sniper is that most people will not be able to see the shots you miss. Only those you land, and if someone gets headshot 5 times in a row by the same sniper, their ego tends to bruise, despite the 15 shots the sniper might have missed in between
13:34 my avrage reaction to a crocket
12 Angry Men: TF2 edition
2:07 is terrifying
4:45 what the _fuck_ is this voiceline, why did Sniper become an elderly grandpa for two seconds
Isn't that the hitsound?
@@PinkPoop69 No, the bit right after that when he talks about pushing the cart. I've never once heard him say that in such a strange, whiny way
@@258thHiGuyAh, I hear it now. Yeah, that's weird.
FusionKD when on same team as Fatmagic: "Nah I don't think he cheats."
FusionKD when on enemy team to Fatmagic: "He cheats."
I must confess that I did also believe Magic to be cheating for quite some time. Until I saw Vorobey's video on the matter. And I realised that when watching real cheater rounds compared to Fat's rounds, you can clearly see that what V said about the hit-reg and all of that actually happens with Magic as well. People just never looked at the right frames all along.
Which is why I wanted to apologise for thinking you were using game assist tools for so long. Keep on being a good sniper mate! Cheers!
You didn't even kill that Pyro, he just got sent flying.
Something similar to this happened to me earlier today. Thankfully someone I know was on the other team and I didn't get kicked. It's really funny how convinced some people get.
love to see fatmagic bringing back his inner italian woth usernames
1:11 this is the epitome of setup time for blu team.
I bet that Jojo guy must be feel honored now if he knows the guy he dueled is was Fatmagic.
No, I already knew it was Fatmagic. I just didn’t want to say it and ruin it. Hehehe >:3
sniper mains all round tf2 doesnt get the chance to pop off without being accused of being a cheater
We all get that feelilng sometimes that someone is targeting/focusing us. Seeing what you have to put up with is at a whole nother level. Not just the non stop accusations but the demos and soliders bombing, endless supply of spies etc. You always keep your cool though. A creamy inspiration:)
I once got hackused for hitting 4 pipes in a row on a brass beast heavy
These people obviously don't watch fatmagic if they throw these hackusations around. That's why they're losing, they're not students in the ways of being good at the video games.
There was a vaccinator medic in that first game briefly. I want to see fatmagic get in a fight with a pair like that, it's the perfect counter practically speaking.
dude went on a whole point and click adventure in this one
Love when people call hacks then watch multiple missed shots on them, then the one that land means he's cheating again
you're either called trash for missing, or cheating for hitting shots
el pingüino esta demasiado cremoso.
alguien kickeelo porfavor.
el que patea el inocente respondera ante dios
I love the scouts that rush you regardless of danger, just to die after they get you. Truly some sweaty scout gameplay happening on the other side of that screen.
And the Spies just feel like mafia situations; around 3 or 4 guys in the first round back to back trying to take out this one sniper, and then some spy on spy/sniper action in 11:04, truly spectacular!
*Walks in a straight line
"He snapped onto my head"
Must've been dropped on the head as a child.
"I looked at his account and he isn't banned, but people called him a cheater"
>Ignores the thousands of hours of TF2 on record
"I don't think he's cheating. I think he's just a Sniper main."
"Same thing."
Why must he say something so controversial and yet so brave?
I love how it seems half the enemy was focusing you out every person in multiple firefights, even having multiple spies just trying to get you specifically.
"He has god aim then he turns it off to miss"
sounds oddly like a person aiming or something idk
On this day, Sunday, the 31st of March, we the jury find the defendant not guilty.
"Haha! They're just making things up!"
Well yeah, their ego is on the line! That's more important than actually saying something true!
If I were fatmagic my ego would inflate so much and I’d make fun of the enemies. Good on him for not touching the chat.
I always love the confirmation bias they use, "Other people said he's cheating on his profile so he must be cheating!"
And I have 27 pages of people saying my mother is a certain type of woman, along with "Kosovo is Serbia". Both must be true as well.
Scout players running in a straight line: how is he headshotting me im too fast?!
Fatmagic actually responding in normal voice and being toxic?! WHO IS THIS!
13:33 accurate crit reaction
Never noticed I would appear in Fatmagics video and I feel both honored and embarrassed to falsely accuse you of cheating 3;
Though after looking at the video I gotta admit he’s a dang good sniper, much like Jpeg with scout or MrSwipez with spy so props to you magic, still sorry for accusing you of cheating ;3
Fun fact: while watching I noticed you from a casual Fastlane server several months ago. You're a damn good spy main.
Also, can't blame you for accusing him of cheating.
@@firechaos70 Well I heavily appreciate the compliment and yeah tbh with how tf2’s state is it’s easy to jump the gun on someone x3
I thought the estrogen was supposed to decrease anger.
@@Rokk_ What? Im not even on estrogen owo??