Grand Master Wan Kam Leung was my Sifu when i lived in Hong Kong in 1998. He is a living legend. He was Wong Shun Leungs 1st & eventually most Senior student ! That says it all ,if you dont know anything about either of these two men, then you still got alot to learn about Wing Chun.... This guy has amazing power and his Wing Chun is ass kicking, believe me. I have practised Kempo, boxing, Muay Thai & had my fair share off street fights, GM Wan Kam Leung is the real deal.
He looks like a doctor with his martial art skill so excellent that practically no one can beat him. He is one of the best in Hong Kong just like his teacher, the legendary wong Shun Leung, whom I truly respected and admired from the bottom of my heart.
usually if people claim something doesnt work, it doesnt work for them in certain situations and they over generalize or they simply do not understand how it should work. i believe you in that this is what this man can apply.
@iApna I completely agree with the instructor being at fault. But you also have to look at the styles. While I still stick with my stance of "No style is better" the deciding factor will be the TYPE. Like you said, You train in Muay thai, Muay thai was my first style, It was my intro to the world of Martial arts, and the main thing I learned from it is all the elbows/knees in MMA has nothing to do with the style, and what they show you in modern schools isn't even 5% of all muay thai.
chaseleeUK, thank you very much for the info. I am not a practitioner of the Mantis system. It seems like this movement is very practical and useful. I think I also will adopt it for my own use. Instead of seizing and pulling someone's arm and then hit. Looks like it also can be used to just cut and block someone's upper cut and then strike the rib or the stomach area. Am I right?
this is very different to demos of biu jee i've seen previously but what must be remembered is wing chun is about concepts not techniques.this is obviously grandmaster Wans' way of showing his interpretation of the biu jee concepts.he was a senior student of wong shun leung and took part in beimo himself,i believe,and also has practical experience of applying wing chun principles.people just need to be open minded and accept the evolution of a style so long as the core pricinples remain the same
@auntygomez That is too hard to explain in detail here, but every technique has many different uses depending on the situation. The forms are like a living text book, arranged in a fluid way so the techniques flow from one to another. When actually applying them however, you don't have to use them in the order they appear in within the forms, you can use any technique from any form in any order you choose. Hope that helps!
I have meet sifu Maday and sifu Wan Kam Leung and train themes styles. I just dont want to say anything bad about any one. I just can say that sifu Wan Kam Leung is amazing nad real master i`m happy that i have pleasure to meet him :)
Sifu Wan modified Biu Jee form a bit, and he called his school as practical wing chun as opposite to the classic clan. Sifu Wan is very famous, he teaches the special unit in the Hong Kong police force, and his own sifu is the seehing of Bruce Lee.
To all who think they are qualified to criticise, listen up. There are many techniques in the classic Wing Chun forms that just don't work. Sifu Wan has modified his forms so that every technique WORKS! Unless you understand the application of every technique, you can't appreciate the improvement. In one word,'PRACTICAL'.
Sifu Wan is one of the best Wing Chun instructor, his emphasis is on practical wing chun, where he stressed the importance in real fighting, so his teaching is a bit depart from orthodox wing chun, but still very good.
I train under Sifu Sergio (9th level grand master) (highest there is) he completed all forms from all grandmasters on the world and combined them to one. he is the only man in the world who knows every style (even the secret ones) of wing chun, wing tjun and all other wing ....
Why so many wing chun players hype their Sifu. Sifu Sergio had the embarrassing altercation with the Shiesty William Cheung. Sergio didn’t seem so fantastic then at all.
you can see master Wong in master Wan, very very good bui jee people like this should be respected, watched... no.. studied sick of all cereal box wing-chun people who criticise what they neither know or understand....watch + learn
One last thing, my RUclips "friends". Even though some of you may not care to know what I think on this matter of "non-bonafide" Wing Chun systems: If you think you know Wing Chun (but only if you really do) I suggest that we all learn the way Master Wan does his Bil Jee in addition to continuing to practice it the way we already do.
einsiedler, he is not checking his footwork, he is looking down to see if he is still in that circle on the ground. I am sure he doesn't do that when practice at his residence. There is no need to.
Gragrn, Thank you. How true it is to own Wing Chun rather than being owned by Wing Chun. One must retain and utilize what is suitable for him to use in the set and delete that which are of no benefit to him. Mahalo
bhibatsu, Well not always, depending on the situation. Sometimes you become great and sometimes you become a victim by going your own way. When Moses separated the red sea, everyone was heading to the opposite shore and if you chose to stay in the same place, going back or going a different direction, you would be a victim of drowning. There are very few things that are absolute in this world. One has to consider the exception and the other possibilities before making the decision to change.
Wow I didn't realize he was WSL student. It seems as though David Peterson (another wsl student) has slightly different approach to wing chun. I love how if You understand the principles and concepts then you can throw the forms away or atleast.. you know what I mean.. you dont have to be attached to the appearances and then you can have 2 students of the same gentleman but both express it differently. GOod day sir!
Ip Man modified his Wing Chun to make it his own. Wong Shun Leung modified his Wing Chun to make it his own. Bruce Lee modified his Wing Chun to make it his own. Wan Kam Leung has modified his Wing Chun to make it his own. " You must own your Wing Chun, not let it own you ". Wan Kam Leung.
Even though I am an expert in wing chun, but I have a question of his version. Right after the fut sou is the soak sou. Can anyone enlighten me the application of the "sock sou"? See we do not have this movement in our version. Many thanks
Wan Kam Leung was a student of Wong Shun Leung,and is probably one of the most feared teachers in Hong Kong due to his power and speed, and he has seen alot of action and has the scars to prove it, as he showed me when i met him, so go to Hong Kong and tell him his form is gay.. any how Ving Tsun should evolve and not stay stuck in the past, as Ip Man changed alot of the system from what he was taught in Foshan, when i went to Foshan it was obvious he changed it quite alot.
I can actually "see" within his movements the martial applications which are being inferred. When one has practiced SERIOUSLY for a considerable amount of time one begins to perceive subtleties which previously may not have been so apparent. In a nutshell, this SIFU KICKS MAJOR ASS!!!
In my humble opinion, this dude has got a great command of the Bil Jee form. And yes, people, there are many different ways of performing it. Besides, the important thing to consider is whether or not one is following the Wing Chun principles (which, by the way, are based on other arts which preceded it). So why all the nonsense politics?
the other wanted to be a reply, under this. One more thing, just to bring up an example. Try to apply the huen gat sau movement (at 1:23), you will fail if your arm is grabbed properly. then try the way leung ting does it, then you'll suceed. there are many other examples that i could list, that from my experience wouldn't work that way.
@iApna -cont- You can't go to a muay thai school in the states to learn the deadly arts of war, because they'll usually end up teaching you the bastardized sports version(Or as they call it here "Cardio kickboxing"). So my thing is the students who use their instructors names or that one style for an ego boost will never use their true potential(If they have any)
I am just an old man.. I'd rather not let them hit me first hehehe.. though I see that you were trying to teach a lesson and I understand. I also favor things I can share or use in a hurry.. without conditioning as they do in many hard styles..I did do some iron palm when i was younger, but it becomes a pain to maintain this type of conditioning and i decided to focus on other stuff.. I do favor drawing them close or getting close as well.. anyway good day sir!
If you think Biu Jee is something that your own Sifu says it is,you're wrong. Many masters developed their forms according to their own experience. This man is one of the greatest masters of Wing Chun in the World. He was given respect by Wong Shun Leung himself,who stated Wan Kam Leung has evolved the art. You see the form different then your own,but you havent seen the application and yet you judge? Shame on you,disrespectful lot who dare to say what IS or what ISNT Wing Chun.
Watch Sifu Wan's other clips. You won't understand what he is doing either but at least you'll see that everything he does, works! Why? Because he has spent the last 50yrs putting it to the test and can explain everything he does. That's why his system is called Practical Wing Chun. Maybe one day you'll reach a level of understanding where you can see past the politics and appreciate one of the most important Wing Chun principles, that is,' Make it your own '!
@synkronyk When you look at his turning, his stability, when he turn on heels as we can see in video, is not ... stable. It is not about which system it is, it should me functional at the first place, that we can talk about roots and branches of Wing/Ving Tsun/Chun..
Wan Kam Leung is a very good student of Wong Shun Leung, he has changed some things in the system like Wong and Ip Man did, VT should evolve like any other system, i've met the guy and know alot who have trained with him as i have and they all say the same thing that he is awesome, so i would like to see this mofotox guy above tell him his form is gay.. he would be leaving hong Kong in a coffin..
Looking at your profile, i gather you have a profound respect for MMA. So I see your point and where u are coming from. But i still think gung fu has its own advantages.
One of WSL's best students? I'm sorry I looked all over the book "Ip Man Ving Tsun Genealogy" under WSL and I did find this dude. There are many reputable Sifu who are direct disciples of WSL. Luk Tei, Chiu Hok Yin, Yuen Yim Keung, Phillip Ng, to name a few. Then I looked under the third gen of WSL list and still there is no WKL!! I saw many claimed"Oh, he's the best I ever seen!" Well, how many have you guys seen, two?
@ozzie1246 Why? Because he is not throwing all his weight over the rear leg and leaning backwards with his arms out-streached like a zombie! Watch Wan Si-Fu's other videos to see this in action, the people he is flipping around like rag dolls are some of the top Wing Chun and Wing Tsun Sifu's from Europe and Australia. As jay5354369 said, pay him a visit sometime, he'll change your mind.
biu jee.must aply an inner force like a tail of a crocodile or a dragon.. little bit like drunken style..always wawing and having inner force from ground and body..this biu jee is more like siunim tao for beginners.. and a master must aply siunim tao as biujee also..
@ozzie1246 No, what you're used to seeing is very poor. This man has great gungfu, actually one of the most obvious examples of real gungfu that I've seen online.
i am a 1st level technician under sifu máday. I do have seen a lot of biu jee/tze from many masters. I have no problem about different forms and sequences, until they are logical, i believe these movements are too rigid, too long, curved. I think that these techniques cannot be applied this way. And i do not care about originality, no body really know how leun Jan and his teachers did biu tze. What matters is that it has to be logical, and applyable. regards
@ozzie1246: I agree with you, that very unstable stance, unfinished movements, many pointless and wasteful movements.. i cant believe my eyes. If he is Si-Fu, why he demonstrates this form so carelessly? I dont get it, why are people doing it?
Granted, not everyone is on the record, especially those students who are private and do not teach professionally. But if WKL is such "high profile" WSL's student, why his name was missing? I highly doubt his credentials and him being one of the best! Many have such limited experience but decided they have seen the best! Such narrow mind and ignorance! Go check out those Sifus I mention above, they will broaden your mind.
I understand you guys... but you got me totaly rong;) please send me a prive message if you want to know what I mean... and don't get me rong. the man on this video is great!
@Samwisewt You don't know what you're talking about either. Read my reply to your mate ozzie. To get an idea of how these techniques are applied watch Wan Si-Fu's other vids or pay him a visit sometime.
@TheDano1947 You've no idea what you're talking about. Show us your own form then,so we can judge accordingly. Wan Kam Leung is meastro of martial arts,one of a kind. Wong Shun Leung himself allowed him to develop the art as he sees fit. Think before stating ignorant things,it will do you good in life.
Alright, I guess I'm going 'meshugga' over here (LOL)! So why did I make the last statement? Because all of Wing Chun, nay, all of Kung Fu (in general, and as a rule-of-thumb) has to do with a Human-Being's full range of motion as it applies to any and all potentially combative situations that may or may not occur. This being so, we will always have room to expand and grow!
don't hate it ,cause its got some use to thugs that don't know how to fight ,you all mma think ur style is the best or your ahead of yourself ,don't forgot where martial art came from buddy
@iApna -cont- You have to trace back centuries of war combat, Muay boran, Muay maa yang, Paak esaan, etc, to see that muay thai isn't being used to its potential. You can see the same in karate, most styles are bastardized into sports or health. Like if you put a BJJ Black belt in the same match with master of penchak silat who has trained for war you'll get very bloody results. My point is that usually the fault falls with the student for picking that specific instructor....
Has it own advantages like philosophy and you get discipline but i dont see physical advantages.You will never use those movements in a real fight. In my view the best martial arts are those that you can use in the real life.Thats why i love bjj.
Hmm? Also, die Biu Tze von GM LeungTing geht anders! Frag mich warum er die Arme bei seinen Angriffen nicht durchstreckt normalerweise streckt man die Bewegungen durch - hat Wong Shun Leung doch auch gemacht. Daher verstehe ich den Sinn dieser "Zurückhaltung" nicht!
WSL probably would not like to see the stuff he changed. At least he did not claim Ip Man taught him like many others! I SAID many are not on the list for various reasons .Gary Lam was not on the list either. Refusing to pay the minimum fee is cheap and lame. Point is, to say who ever "the best" is is narrow minded. Just because the group you train with is all you've seen does not mean they are "the best". You say it because that makes you feel special.
I respect all lineages as well but I don't respect Leung Ting, Bozo, and William Cheung as a person because of their shady characters. At no time I claim whose skill is better, that's non-issue to me. I'm only critical of people lack of ethic and character. I don't like LTWT people's attitude toward other lineages. I use LeeYuen Tim in the sarcastic sense. LYT is a prime example of how "high" LTWT's standard is.. a joke. A result of over-franchising.
at least, try to behave like a man, and not talk like that. This whole quarrel, and hatred against the different branches of the same art, and you hate them like your enemies. this is a big shame upon you all.
@iApna You make it obvious that you don't know exactly what martial arts/gong-fu is. There is no such thing as "the best style", It always comes down the individuals training and knowledge. My sifu always taught me that a real martial artist is one that shows respect for other styles by working harder than their masters. It will always be something much deeper than sparring and lifting weights.
you are so naive. please open your mind, and see through the marketing that sergio has made up. I don't want to say anything bad against sifu sergio, cause i dont know him in person, and i haven't fought him to see his skills, but that is certainly very naiv of you to actually believe what you are saying.
Isn't WC supposed to be simplistic? If WC really needs to "evolve", it needed to be more simplified, not more complicated. Adding something to the system without compelling reason is gratuitous. Adding fancy tricks like "mai mo" spearing his throat is totally non-WC marketing ploy. People should be weary of changes for change sake. Beside, the form he showed totally deviates from essence of WC. WSL would be rolling his eyes now.
Why the name wkl(wan kam leung) "shit"? U must hate him, LOL. I have to agree tillerbare this time. Biu Jee is all about power in the elbow and "yui-ma". Look at this dude's movements in extending the arms in 'bui jee" move and his hip, he totally lacks all of the above. His form is so gay! At least he did not claim his crap moves was taught by Ip Man, LOL! He can invent anything he wants as long as he does not call it WC! "the best VT master" by what standard?
Second worst Biu Ji I ever seen, stance is so wide, he's asking for a front kick to the family jewels. Why is it that these so called Masters all seem to have sloppy technique so bad that I would have been corrected for many times, usually with a fist in my face or a kick to my groin to show me where I was open.
Haloxcheats,that is the dumbest thing I've heard. While its nice to know that Mr. Sergio has studied a few versions of Wing Chun,it's completely irrelevant that he's a 9th level GRANDmaster. Highest level of Grandmaster-ism there is? Says who? He runs his own association, he can call himself the Master of Almightiness for all he cares. I swear you'll get your butt kicked if you go around telling people you train under a 9th level grandmaster of Wing Tzsjchun, or however you want to trademark it.
Yeah right, I believe chop stick and steering wheel should evolve too, especially people have been using both devices for hundred years! You are naïve enough to buy into marketing craps about evolution! WSL would roll in his grave if he saw Biu Jee like this! What would WC be without proper elbow power and yiu-ma? I saw a clip wkl demo throat spearing, typical "mai mo lo( street martial art PERFORMER) tricks! You think WSL would like that?
Grand Master Wan Kam Leung was my Sifu when i lived in Hong Kong in 1998. He is a living legend.
He was Wong Shun Leungs 1st & eventually most Senior student ! That says it all ,if you dont know anything about either of these two men, then you still got alot to learn about Wing Chun....
This guy has amazing power and his Wing Chun is ass kicking, believe me. I have practised Kempo, boxing, Muay Thai & had my fair share off street fights, GM Wan Kam Leung is the real deal.
He looks like a doctor with his martial art skill so excellent that practically no one can beat him. He is one of the best in Hong Kong just like his teacher, the legendary wong Shun Leung, whom I truly respected and admired from the bottom of my heart.
usually if people claim something doesnt work, it doesnt work for them in certain situations and they over generalize or they simply do not understand how it should work. i believe you in that this is what this man can apply.
@iApna I completely agree with the instructor being at fault. But you also have to look at the styles. While I still stick with my stance of "No style is better" the deciding factor will be the TYPE. Like you said, You train in Muay thai, Muay thai was my first style, It was my intro to the world of Martial arts, and the main thing I learned from it is all the elbows/knees in MMA has nothing to do with the style, and what they show you in modern schools isn't even 5% of all muay thai.
To see such a thing is an honor it’s amazing
Yes, both you and chasleeuk are correct, sock sau has many uses. Remember too that all techniques come alive when combined with the footwork.
chaseleeUK, thank you very much for the info. I am not a practitioner of the Mantis system. It seems like this movement is very practical and useful. I think I also will adopt it for my own use. Instead of seizing and pulling someone's arm and then hit. Looks like it also can be used to just cut and block someone's upper cut and then strike the rib or the stomach area. Am I right?
this is very different to demos of biu jee i've seen previously but what must be remembered is wing chun is about concepts not techniques.this is obviously grandmaster Wans' way of showing his interpretation of the biu jee concepts.he was a senior student of wong shun leung and took part in beimo himself,i believe,and also has practical experience of applying wing chun principles.people just need to be open minded and accept the evolution of a style so long as the core pricinples remain the same
@auntygomez That is too hard to explain in detail here, but every technique has many different uses depending on the situation. The forms are like a living text book, arranged in a fluid way so the techniques flow from one to another. When actually applying them however, you don't have to use them in the order they appear in within the forms, you can use any technique from any form in any order you choose. Hope that helps!
I have meet sifu Maday and sifu Wan Kam Leung and train themes styles. I just dont want to say anything bad about any one. I just can say that sifu Wan Kam Leung is amazing nad real master i`m happy that i have pleasure to meet him :)
Sifu Wan modified Biu Jee form a bit, and he called his school as practical wing chun as opposite to the classic clan. Sifu Wan is very famous, he teaches the special unit in the Hong Kong police force, and his own sifu is the seehing of Bruce Lee.
When you understand what every movement means and how to apply it, you will find it a lot easier to remember.
To all who think they are qualified to criticise, listen up. There are many techniques in the classic Wing Chun forms that just don't work. Sifu Wan has modified his forms so that every technique WORKS! Unless you understand the application of every technique, you can't appreciate the improvement. In one word,'PRACTICAL'.
Sifu Wan is one of the best Wing Chun instructor, his emphasis is on practical wing chun, where he stressed the importance in real fighting, so his teaching is a bit depart from orthodox wing chun, but still very good.
I would rather be a live peasant than a dead trailblazer anytime. LOL
I train under Sifu Sergio (9th level grand master) (highest there is) he completed all forms from all grandmasters on the world and combined them to one. he is the only man in the world who knows every style (even the secret ones) of wing chun, wing tjun and all other wing ....
Why so many wing chun players hype their Sifu.
Sifu Sergio had the embarrassing altercation with the Shiesty William Cheung.
Sergio didn’t seem so fantastic then at all.
A fine example of gong-fu. His whole body moves like clockwork and no wasted movements. So no, Nothing even CLOSE to useless.
you can see master Wong in master Wan, very very good bui jee people like this should be respected, watched... no.. studied sick of all cereal box wing-chun people who criticise what they neither know or understand....watch + learn
One last thing, my RUclips "friends".
Even though some of you may not care to know what I think on this matter of "non-bonafide" Wing Chun systems:
If you think you know Wing Chun (but only if you really do) I suggest that we all learn the way Master Wan does his Bil Jee in addition to continuing to practice it the way we already do.
You tell it like it is, brother!
haha relaxed. im just screwing around. and yeah. it was an accurate and humorous observation.
einsiedler, he is not checking his footwork, he is looking down to see if he is still in that circle on the ground. I am sure he doesn't do that when practice at his residence. There is no need to.
Gragrn,
Thank you. How true it is to own Wing Chun rather than being owned by Wing Chun. One must retain and utilize what is suitable for him to use in the set and delete that which are of no benefit to him.
Mahalo
yes i do ... now that you mention it ..
Great energy and power but still soft and effortless. That's how you can tell the difference between real Wing Chun and others.
bhibatsu, Well not always, depending on the situation. Sometimes you become great and sometimes you become a victim by going your own way. When Moses separated the red sea, everyone was heading to the opposite shore and if you chose to stay in the same place, going back or going a different direction, you would be a victim of drowning. There are very few things that are absolute in this world. One has to consider the exception and the other possibilities before making the decision to change.
And Yip man's Wing Chun was also very different from his own student, Wong Shun Leung.
Wow I didn't realize he was WSL student. It seems as though David Peterson (another wsl student) has slightly different approach to wing chun. I love how if You understand the principles and concepts then you can throw the forms away or atleast.. you know what I mean.. you dont have to be attached to the appearances and then you can have 2 students of the same gentleman but both express it differently. GOod day sir!
chazdravis, what version are you looking for. May be I can lead you to that version. Please clarify.
Let go the ignorant dark Silence in your self with the Light of dutyful Actions, its always better than silent inactions.
Ip Man modified his Wing Chun to make it his own.
Wong Shun Leung modified his Wing Chun to make it his own.
Bruce Lee modified his Wing Chun to make it his own.
Wan Kam Leung has modified his Wing Chun to make it his own.
" You must own your Wing Chun, not let it own you ". Wan Kam Leung.
Even though I am an expert in wing chun, but I have a question of his version. Right after the fut sou is the soak sou. Can anyone enlighten me the application of the "sock sou"? See we do not have this movement in our version. Many thanks
It's Wan Kam Leung. a wing chun master from hong kong.
Wan Kam Leung was a student of Wong Shun Leung,and is probably one of the most feared teachers in Hong Kong due to his power and speed, and he has seen alot of action and has the scars to prove it, as he showed me when i met him, so go to Hong Kong and tell him his form is gay.. any how Ving Tsun should evolve and not stay stuck in the past, as Ip Man changed alot of the system from what he was taught in Foshan, when i went to Foshan it was obvious he changed it quite alot.
Man, oman...
There are so many different styles of Wing Chun...Uggggg...
I can actually "see" within his movements the martial applications which are being inferred.
When one has practiced SERIOUSLY for a considerable amount of time one begins to perceive subtleties which previously may not have been so apparent. In a nutshell, this SIFU KICKS MAJOR ASS!!!
In my humble opinion, this dude has got a great command of the Bil Jee form. And yes, people, there are many different ways of performing it.
Besides, the important thing to consider is whether or not one is following the Wing Chun principles (which, by the way, are based on other arts which preceded it). So why all the nonsense politics?
the other wanted to be a reply, under this.
One more thing, just to bring up an example. Try to apply the huen gat sau movement (at 1:23), you will fail if your arm is grabbed properly. then try the way leung ting does it, then you'll suceed. there are many other examples that i could list, that from my experience wouldn't work that way.
i agree.. if you spend all your time separating, how can you bring everything you encounter together into your own kung fu?
simply terrifical
the way he moves reminds me of Wong Shun Leung.
I like the belt/suspenders combo
@iApna -cont- You can't go to a muay thai school in the states to learn the deadly arts of war, because they'll usually end up teaching you the bastardized sports version(Or as they call it here "Cardio kickboxing"). So my thing is the students who use their instructors names or that one style for an ego boost will never use their true potential(If they have any)
Oh oh oh... my TKD lineage is Kim Dae Jung-Soup Du Jour-Kim Jung Il-Kim Chee-Little Kim-myself...
I am just an old man.. I'd rather not let them hit me first hehehe.. though I see that you were trying to teach a lesson and I understand. I also favor things I can share or use in a hurry.. without conditioning as they do in many hard styles..I did do some iron palm when i was younger, but it becomes a pain to maintain this type of conditioning and i decided to focus on other stuff.. I do favor drawing them close or getting close as well.. anyway good day sir!
If you think Biu Jee is something that your own Sifu says it is,you're wrong. Many masters developed their forms according to their own experience. This man is one of the greatest masters of Wing Chun in the World. He was given respect by Wong Shun Leung himself,who stated Wan Kam Leung has evolved the art. You see the form different then your own,but you havent seen the application and yet you judge? Shame on you,disrespectful lot who dare to say what IS or what ISNT Wing Chun.
@123market it looks powerful and practical indeed, but it doesn't look as wing chun anymore lol
Watch Sifu Wan's other clips. You won't understand what he is doing either but at least you'll see that everything he does, works! Why? Because he has spent the last 50yrs putting it to the test and can explain everything he does. That's why his system is called Practical Wing Chun. Maybe one day you'll reach a level of understanding where you can see past the politics and appreciate one of the most important Wing Chun principles, that is,' Make it your own '!
@synkronyk When you look at his turning, his stability, when he turn on heels as we can see in video, is not ... stable. It is not about which system it is, it should me functional at the first place, that we can talk about roots and branches of Wing/Ving Tsun/Chun..
No, Borat is my Si-Fu, Sponge Bob is my Si-Gung, Bart my Si-Tai-Gung, ete,etc..
Fantastic
P.S. I think it was my Si-Tai-Gung Bart Simpson invented the "Bart Jarm Do". Judging from the name, it figures!
Wan Kam Leung is a very good student of Wong Shun Leung, he has changed some things in the system like Wong and Ip Man did, VT should evolve like any other system, i've met the guy and know alot who have trained with him as i have and they all say the same thing that he is awesome, so i would like to see this mofotox guy above tell him his form is gay.. he would be leaving hong Kong in a coffin..
Mau mau didi mau
I could love you more than any ghoul could ever dare try.
Looking at your profile, i gather you have a profound respect for MMA. So I see your point and where u are coming from. But i still think gung fu has its own advantages.
One of WSL's best students? I'm sorry I looked all over the book "Ip Man Ving Tsun Genealogy" under WSL and I did find this dude. There are many reputable Sifu who are direct disciples of WSL. Luk Tei, Chiu Hok Yin, Yuen Yim Keung, Phillip Ng, to name a few. Then I looked under the third gen of WSL list and still there is no WKL!! I saw many claimed"Oh, he's the best I ever seen!" Well, how many have you guys seen, two?
@ozzie1246 Why? Because he is not throwing all his weight over the rear leg and leaning backwards with his arms out-streached like a zombie! Watch Wan Si-Fu's other videos to see this in action, the people he is flipping around like rag dolls are some of the top Wing Chun and Wing Tsun Sifu's from Europe and Australia. As jay5354369 said, pay him a visit sometime, he'll change your mind.
very good
biu jee.must aply an inner force like a tail of a crocodile or a dragon.. little bit like drunken style..always wawing and having inner force from ground and body..this biu jee is more like siunim tao for beginners.. and a master must aply siunim tao as biujee also..
very nice
@ozzie1246 No, what you're used to seeing is very poor. This man has great gungfu, actually one of the most obvious examples of real gungfu that I've seen online.
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i am a 1st level technician under sifu máday. I do have seen a lot of biu jee/tze from many masters. I have no problem about different forms and sequences, until they are logical, i believe these movements are too rigid, too long, curved. I think that these techniques cannot be applied this way. And i do not care about originality, no body really know how leun Jan and his teachers did biu tze. What matters is that it has to be logical, and applyable.
regards
why does his form look kinda different from WSL's, especially the elbows
@ozzie1246: I agree with you, that very unstable stance, unfinished movements, many pointless and wasteful movements.. i cant believe my eyes. If he is Si-Fu, why he demonstrates this form so carelessly? I dont get it, why are people doing it?
Granted, not everyone is on the record, especially those students who are private and do not teach professionally. But if WKL is such "high profile" WSL's student, why his name was missing? I highly doubt his credentials and him being one of the best! Many have such limited experience but decided they have seen the best! Such narrow mind and ignorance! Go check out those Sifus I mention above, they will broaden your mind.
Did Bart Simpson study with Yip Man, guys?
I understand you guys... but you got me totaly rong;) please send me a prive message if you want to know what I mean... and don't get me rong. the man on this video is great!
@Samwisewt You don't know what you're talking about either. Read my reply to your mate ozzie. To get an idea of how these techniques are applied watch Wan Si-Fu's other vids or pay him a visit sometime.
@TheDano1947
You've no idea what you're talking about. Show us your own form then,so we can judge accordingly. Wan Kam Leung is meastro of martial arts,one of a kind. Wong Shun Leung himself allowed him to develop the art as he sees fit.
Think before stating ignorant things,it will do you good in life.
Alright, I guess I'm going 'meshugga' over here (LOL)! So why did I make the last statement?
Because all of Wing Chun, nay, all of Kung Fu (in general, and as a rule-of-thumb) has to do with a Human-Being's full range of motion as it applies to any and all potentially combative situations that may or may not occur. This being so, we will always have room to expand and grow!
don't hate it ,cause its got some use to thugs that don't know how to fight ,you all mma think ur style is the best or your ahead of yourself ,don't forgot where martial art came from buddy
Sorry dude, he's one of the four original disciples of Wong Shun Leung. You know who he was, right?
@iApna -cont- You have to trace back centuries of war combat, Muay boran, Muay maa yang, Paak esaan, etc, to see that muay thai isn't being used to its potential. You can see the same in karate, most styles are bastardized into sports or health. Like if you put a BJJ Black belt in the same match with master of penchak silat who has trained for war you'll get very bloody results. My point is that usually the fault falls with the student for picking that specific instructor....
Has it own advantages like philosophy and you get discipline but i dont see physical advantages.You will never use those movements in a real fight.
In my view the best martial arts are those that you can use in the real life.Thats why i love bjj.
siu lim tao en chum kiu is easyyy
bil jee is DIFFICULTTTT
Hmm? Also, die Biu Tze von GM LeungTing geht anders!
Frag mich warum er die Arme bei seinen Angriffen nicht durchstreckt normalerweise streckt man die Bewegungen durch - hat Wong Shun Leung doch auch gemacht. Daher verstehe ich den Sinn dieser "Zurückhaltung" nicht!
why declare yourself to youtube? I AM a ving tsun practitioner training under grandmaster ip chun too. prove me wrong. fellow youtuber.
This doesn't look like the Biu Jee.. sorry, people gonna hate me i know, but this isn't Wong Shung Leung lineage... He turn on his grave right now...
no your not.
WSL probably would not like to see the stuff he changed. At least he did not claim Ip Man taught him like many others! I SAID many are not on the list for various reasons .Gary Lam was not on the list either. Refusing to pay the minimum fee is cheap and lame. Point is, to say who ever "the best" is is narrow minded. Just because the group you train with is all you've seen does not mean they are "the best". You say it because that makes you feel special.
I respect all lineages as well but I don't respect Leung Ting, Bozo, and William Cheung as a person because of their shady characters. At no time I claim whose skill is better, that's non-issue to me. I'm only critical of people lack of ethic and character. I don't like LTWT people's attitude toward other lineages. I use LeeYuen Tim in the sarcastic sense. LYT is a prime example of how "high" LTWT's standard is.. a joke. A result of over-franchising.
at least, try to behave like a man, and not talk like that. This whole quarrel, and hatred against the different branches of the same art, and you hate them like your enemies. this is a big shame upon you all.
@iApna You make it obvious that you don't know exactly what martial arts/gong-fu is. There is no such thing as "the best style", It always comes down the individuals training and knowledge. My sifu always taught me that a real martial artist is one that shows respect for other styles by working harder than their masters. It will always be something much deeper than sparring and lifting weights.
you are so naive. please open your mind, and see through the marketing that sergio has made up. I don't want to say anything bad against sifu sergio, cause i dont know him in person, and i haven't fought him to see his skills, but that is certainly very naiv of you to actually believe what you are saying.
Isn't WC supposed to be simplistic? If WC really needs to "evolve", it needed to be more simplified, not more complicated. Adding something to the system without compelling reason is gratuitous. Adding fancy tricks like "mai mo" spearing his throat is totally non-WC marketing ploy. People should be weary of changes for change sake. Beside, the form he showed totally deviates from essence of WC. WSL would be rolling his eyes now.
Why the name wkl(wan kam leung) "shit"? U must hate him, LOL. I have to agree tillerbare this time. Biu Jee is all about power in the elbow and "yui-ma". Look at this dude's movements in extending the arms in 'bui jee" move and his hip, he totally lacks all of the above. His form is so gay! At least he did not claim his crap moves was taught by Ip Man, LOL! He can invent anything he wants as long as he does not call it WC! "the best VT master" by what standard?
Second worst Biu Ji I ever seen, stance is so wide, he's asking for a front kick to the family jewels. Why is it that these so called Masters all seem to have sloppy technique so bad that I would have been corrected for many times, usually with a fist in my face or a kick to my groin to show me where I was open.
Haloxcheats,that is the dumbest thing I've heard. While its nice to know that Mr. Sergio has studied a few versions of Wing Chun,it's completely irrelevant that he's a 9th level GRANDmaster. Highest level of Grandmaster-ism there is? Says who? He runs his own association, he can call himself the Master of Almightiness for all he cares. I swear you'll get your butt kicked if you go around telling people you train under a 9th level grandmaster of Wing Tzsjchun, or however you want to trademark it.
Yeah right, I believe chop stick and steering wheel should evolve too, especially people have been using both devices for hundred years! You are naïve enough to buy into marketing craps about evolution! WSL would roll in his grave if he saw Biu Jee like this! What would WC be without proper elbow power and yiu-ma? I saw a clip wkl demo throat spearing, typical "mai mo lo( street martial art PERFORMER) tricks! You think WSL would like that?
it´s wrong
very wrong
this guy is bad no offence traditional biu gi isnt like that elbows point the cealing not this stuff