Rapture: A Modern Day Atlantis?
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- Опубликовано: 6 сен 2024
- Myles Bloom further explores the mysteries surrounding the underwater city of Rapture in this "Fact from Myth" segment. Who is the mysterious woman in upstate New York -- and what is her connection to the people in the painting?
ESRB Rating: MATURE - Blood and Gore, Intense Violence, Language, Mild Sexual Themes, and Use of Alcohol and Tobacco
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It really is kind of a haunting "epilogue" to the whole BioShock series isn't it? Sally's one of the very, very few who survived to the end...
Can anyone truly be said to have survived Ryan’s folly? The body lives on, but the soul...
Eleanor Lamb was the last as well as Sofia Lamb depending on if you saved her or let her die.
SPOILERS!
Plus all of the other little sisters, Jack, Porter, and Tenenbaum all made it back to the surface. There are possibly others that fled back to the surface in time when Rapture's civil war really got out of hand.
And possibly whomever is the anonymous source that tipped to these investigators who Sally is and where she lives now.
@@Kehwanna Bill Mcdonoughs wife and daughter fled rapture a few hours before he tried to kill Ryan
I love how the footage in this looks like it was made in the late 70s/early 80s. Excellently done fake retro.
Both it and Truth from Legend were derived from the Leonard Nimoy narrated series "In Search Of..". Just saying.
Sally...
so is the fact that the narrator has a different name and the ahx in the begging is now phe mean this is from the alternate reality in which Rapture exist and the Columbia ones where from the universe in which Columbia exist
Well noticed. The Columbia series is "Truth from Legend", as well.
There is always a lighthouse. There is always a man. There is always a TV show.
Is that Heather Gordon (Elizabeth's mocap actress)?
Assuming Heather's age here is 25, though her public age isn't well known at all, (but her birthday is April 1st), and that the woman in Upstate New York (this is actually confirmed to be Sally) was 25 as well, this would put the air date of Fact From Myth at 1981 at the very least.
Considering Fact From Myth is also confirmed to be based on In Search Of..., which aired from 1977-1982, this fits in that timescale as well.
Another helping fact is that the computer shown is an Apple II ITT 2020, which was sold in Europe entirely within the year of 1979, which means this episode of Fact From Myth can't be from before 1979, and considering this is very likely an American show, the fact a European computer ended up in B-Roll does continuity, but could be waved away by the computer just moving, which does lend itself to being in the 80s as well.
All of this means that this is the last known piece of Rapture lore.
jesus h christ, youve done your homework
Si puta madre Sherlock
Watching this after finishing the dlc...
oH MY GOD
Now I can't, for the life in me, stop questioning myself: Where in the dickens is the first segment to this mysterious, yet utterly fascinating, fictional documentary?
For max immersion, watch at 144p.
Rofl you are silly. That made me laugh
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The production on this is spot on for the intended time period. The audio, the colors, everything fits for me. Props!
0:46 Really? Well I'm from Utica and I never heard of Rapture.
I think the woman in that house is actually from rapture but she’s just traumatized about after what happened in the city like the splice,big daddies and other enemies and monsters
She was a little sister
You'd be correct. She's a former Little Sister who was traumatized.
This has an awesome "In Search Of" vibe. If Leonard Nimoy had read these lines, I would've totally freaked out. Nevertheless, I LOVED this. Hoping for more moving forward.
I'd really like to see Irrational do a 30-45 min "Documentary" on either Columbia or Rapture in this style. very entertaining to watch. if they do a kickstarter for one, i'll donate.
How am I just now finding out that they did one of these for Rapture? D:
PHE instead of AHX. "Truth from Legend" instead of "Fact from Myth". One narrated by a mister Myles Bloom while the other by Alistar Bloom.
Why is my nose bleeding?
Agh...fuck mine too.
Holy shit its contagious!
Sally...I was expecting Tenenbaum or something but it was _Sally_
I used to live in Upstate New York, oh god my next door neighbor is a little sister !
I live there now! Oh no!
Actually, that's pretty cool. Maybe she's my boss.
Maybe she is Sally
I want a full series of these fact from myth trailers. They're just too good.
It all makes sense now
The strangest thing about this video for me is that the fictional documentarian doesn't mention anything about Andrew Ryan. The man was a wealthy industrialist before Rapture was built and I'm sure he made it into the public eye when he burned down an entire forest before it was nationalized. Someone like that disappearing in 1945 would have been a big deal. He kept Rapture's construction secret but seeing as this guy knows about Rapture's existence at all, those same leads should hint at Ryan.
Still the coolest most unique game trailers I’ve ever seen. 70s NOVA to a creepy T. Masterful.
Oh my god!? Is that Sally?!!
Yes
it not her Sally has brown hair not blond it's Cindy from BioShock 2
+Robert Collins I mean, people who have blonde hair as children change to brown as adults all the time, and how else would she recognize Elizabeth?
Cameron Holley well you did your reasch
I hated this dlc was a slap in the face to fans...
God I love these. In Search Of used to be so fascinating and creepy when I was a kid, and fact from myth capturea that vibe perfectly.
Who made that anonymous tip? Who is that woman, a saved little sister? I love that painting- 2 masquerade ball mask wearers, lurking in the back. Can’t tell who Elizabeth is dancing with though, Booker maybe?
If Irrational makes the Art of Bioshock Infinite Book II, I will pre-order it for sure!! Not that I don’t like the first book- but since it’s spoiler-free and focuses on the early ideas and how they evolve, it’s somehow incomplete in many ways.
Awesome production quality. Cannot believe I just found out about this.
But why is Booker painted without the mask that you put on to enter Cohen's? Oversight?
At least you know the little sisters made it and had a normal life after that
If I got reminded of Episode 2 like that, I'd probably refuse to speak to them as well.
Why is it “part 2″? Where is part 1?
Is there a part one? Was there ever a part one?
According to previews the girl's name is Sally and when Rapture-Booker sees a picture of her as a little girl, he says he knows her.
In Infinite, inside the hidden room in the Salty Oyster, there's a poster with a woman named Sally on it, which to Booker says: "I think I know her. She worked at a bar on Hanston Street." This comment sounded a bit out of place at the time and I couldn't quite place it, but now... there must be a connection.
Mr. Levine, you keep surprising me, please never stop.
I love you Irrational! Don't stop doing what you do!
Booker and Liz are in Rapture on December 31, 1958 (and probably into New Years Day 1959) according to the trailer for Burial at Sea Episode One. The original Bioshock took place in 1960, so roughly a year after. It is likely that the painting depicts some event centered around Booker and Liz which started the civil war in Rapture. If so, then it is entirely reasonable that a little sister would know about said event.
Hold on, I thought Rapture was a famous city of the riches and conglomerates and I supposed at its high day the city was in the center spotlight of every medias on earth for its uniqueness etc. But, the narrator speak as if no one knew about the city until they recovered the artifacts.
There's a reason it was at the bottom of the sea. If you read the Bioshock: Rapture book, it explains that Ryan did all he could to keep production a secret. The only people that knew were the people that were told; it was a word of mouth thing. Columbia is the one that was common knowledge, in some universes...
The same as with "John Galt's Gulch" in Atlas Shrugged, only limited number of people knew about it. And they were committed to stay in the city "in perpetuity" - which is actually what makes difference between Rapture and Galt's Gulch.
Well, in one of the games there's a segment where you learn how they built Rapture, and that Ryan was having a hard time keeping it a secret, since the only reason you'd need that much aluminum would be for an air force...
I can't with all your fantastic and wonderful stories and creations, I CAN'T, I'M A HUMAN BEING.
So wait.... is this the Burial at Sea documentary videos?
yup
I if they do trailers for the next bioshock like this. That would be awesome.
In a strict sense Comstock and Ryan are not the same person; they are the same constant in 2 different worlds. The precise relation they have with other constants (i.e. alternate selves or father/son) are variables that do not have to be preserved. Just because Liz was B's daughter does not mean that she has to be Jack. They can fit together in different ways as evidenced by the fact that there is no naturally occurring Liz in Comstock's world.
The equivalencies I laid out represent who each character's counter part is in the other city (other reality). Just because Comstock is Ryan's counterpart and Booker is Jacks does not mean that the familial relation between R and J has to be the same as the relation between C and B. R and C built impossible cities ruled by ideology, J and B are strangers dropped into these cities who eventually slay the founder. The constants are the roles these people play, the variables are incidentals.
Clues: (Potential Bioshock: Infinite Spoilers!)
1) Missing Part 1: This is part 2, but we haven't ever seen a part 1. Where is it?
2) Different production company: In the Columbia series it was AHX, now it's PHE. The production logos are the same except different colors. Different universe perhaps?
3) Who is Myles Bloom? The Columbia series was narrated by Alistar Bloom. They sound like different people in each video, but it seems like it's another clue pointing to separate universes.
The woman is adult Sally
Part one was the Columbia one. In the infinite one, a trunk fell out of the sky and was covered by a tv series call "Truth from legend" But in the rapture universe, it was a steamer trunk covered by a tv series called "Fact from myth" so, the first part you can only see as the Columbia version.
what happened to part 1 of this documentary?
+torvovenator Part 1 is not relevant to Infinite.
Start with a part 2. So people ( like I did ) look for a part 1. :-) clever! loved this... more would be great.
Look at the end. This is episode 1. It's just from within the story that it's part 2 of their documentation.
Fink was an ally of Comstock and Fontaine never worked with Ryan so I tend to lean in the Suchong = Fink direction. An additional, perhaps even more important parallel is that Suchong developed the Big Daddies and Fink made Songbird.
I think part 1 will be before Bioshock Infinite Burial at Sea episode 2, at the end said episode 1.
I hope to see more trailers like this,
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If that were the case, Elizabeth would not exist. Otherwise, due to the fact that there were an infinite number of universes, there would have had to be at least a few realities where Booker becomes Comstock. Since Dewitt is Elizabeth's father, for her to exist, he must exist. For Elizabeth to have any powers (which, admittedly, we don't know about yet), Comstock and the Lutece twins must exist.
So basically unless we find out otherwise, Elizabeth's plan probably failed. Which was expected.
Oh my god, I can POST comments here without Google+? Another reason to love Irrational
Makes sense. @Shannon Gia made the good point that Tenenbaum reflects Lutece. Whether Liz is Eleanor or all the sisters like you say, it seems to work.
Would you kindly upload part 1!!!
@primotivegetful. Don't forget this DLC is in a different universe. Hence the change of title, production intro. Maybe Part 1 is lost in time and space
Liz is an embodiment of all the little sisters combined. She is neither Jack, nor Tenanbaum.
amazing, Reminds me of the old TV show "in search of"
+RattlerX5150 As the Nimoy-narrated show was inspiration for "Fact from Myth" and "Truth from Legend", that's a very good thing to hear..
The gist i got is that the woman is an former little sister that Jack or Tenenbaum rescued and somehow Elizabeth is involved
I was so hoping that they would mention mark Meltzer, but technically they didnt make him, so they may not. It also just may before he does stuff... But Mark did get a trunk full of stuff.
could be, however I imagine she would have been older than the woman in this video. I think she could be Sally, the girl Elizabeth wants you to look for in the DLC
But remember, Liz is the paradox, Liz born in a Rapture's door, no in a Columbia's door, so it's the same as (only an hypothetical case) Fitzroy or Fink of a Columbia's door - another character of that same door, but, you also have a point, only R.Lutece know...
Does anyone else notice an alternate dimension aspect between this and the "Truth from Legend" video for Bioshock Infinite? The production company is different, but they have a very similar logo. In both cases, they find something from the lost city, etc. The narrator has a different first name (Myles Bloom vs. Alistar Bloom).
Curious...is it possible the woman living in Upstate New York is this Sally person that Elizabeth has Booker searching for...Or perhaps it's the daughter of Bill McDonagh who had escaped Rapture along with her mother and ended up in New York City as depicted in the novel...
These truth from legend trailers are some of the best trailers I have ever seen
Yeah but I heard somewhere that the old vigors from the base game will appear but I think as upgraded versions as the originals
your statement makes a lot more sense now still i think it would be interesting to see Liz linked to Jack somehow but we will have to wait and see. you may win this round but i will be back.
Is there a part 1
Was that Heather Gordon? You know, the motion capture actress for Elizabeth? She kinda looks like her! :O
I think it'll play into the plot of Burial at Sea more. The woman reacted to a painting of Elizabeth, so it might be this little sister in particular:
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So is the good ending cannon? Or is this a Tear/Universe where Jack adopted the 5 little sisters?
According to Bioshock infinite
All possible outcomes are canon
"I could see all the doors... And behind one I saw him"
She saw, by giving atlas the Ace in the Hole, there would be one possible future where Sally was rescued
Bass Heller because there were multiple endings to the original Bioshock 1
These videos are so fucking cool. I love irrational.
Was she from Syracuse? Having a door slammed in your face is quite normal up there. Hell, it's practically how people say "Goodbye"
Is there actually a Part 1?
My theory is that the woman in the trailer was one of the little sisters rescued at the end of bioshock 1
Oh my god. I love this trailer.....Thanks IrrationalGames
This is awesome! Love the promo!
Wait... what?
Since Elizabeth drowned Booker before he can become Comstock, Columbia can't, never, never will exist.
Andrew Ryan might have built Rapture regardless of whether Columbia was built or not, because no one knew what Columbia was. Liz and Booker aren't equivalents anymore, they're alternate selves exist in Rapture alongside Ryan and Jack.
but comstock and ryan are the same person which means that ryan has to be both ryan and jack. you my be right in a metaphysical way but i am talking about the direct relation through the multiverse where if comstock is ryan then then liz HAS too be jack
That woman might be one of the little sister's got out from first BioShock game.
Alright. I see it now. But we also gotta think how often certain things are constants in the multi-verses. I mean the only solid constants we know of are the man, the city, and the lighthouse. There might not be a Rapture equivalent for everything in Columbia. It's anyone's guess as to what will have an equivalent and what will be changed.
The woman was probably Bill McDonagh's wife; in the novel it was documented that she escaped rapture and moved to New York.
Nice. I always overlook Bioshock 2. I think your head is in the right place but I can't wrap my head around Delta and Sophia Lamb. Where do they fit in? It seems like Bioshock 2 is just a reassertion of the "constants" in a world that had them manifest before. This makes sense given that these games are designed to be similar but within the narrative I can't explain it. I know Ken Levine didn't write that one so he either wants us to ignore B2 or he wants to destroy the 4th wall.
This is great and all but you mind releasing them more frequently please? :P
I hope they throw in some of the old BioShock characters; I miss them.
Source? I had heard that plasmids will be ingested rather than injected in BaS but I hadn't heard anything about what plasmids would be available.
I'm REALLY REALLY pissed that they didn't add the old bioshock plasmids to BaS.
Wait, so since Columbia doesn't exist anymore Rapture takes it's place in the documentary? Seeing as how Rapture still exists (just destroyed in pieces on the sea floor)
Watch in 240p for full effect
Underrated. Really
Oh. My. God. It's Sally. It has to be Sally.
Um, it wasn't the painting that caused her to drop the pics and run inside. The TV was on and a Fuccillo Auto Mall commercial was playing. She was rushing to turn it off before the annying ass "HUUUUUUUUUUUUUGE". Anyone from Upstate New York would have done the same.
That sounds like something ken levine would try, would certainly be one hell of a scene.
That's totally Sophie McDonagh, Bill McDonaugh's daughter. She was born around 1950, so as the video is in 80's style it fits that the woman is in her thirties.
The girl in the video is 'Sally' who booker looks for in rapture
I love these videos they're using to market the game :D
that was Truth from Legend, no Fact from Myth. these are two different series. One about Columbia, one about Rapture. Part 1 of Rapture hasn't been released, but part 2 (this video) has.
Can someone tell me where is Part 1?
The Truth from Legend series was 2 parts. But this one started with part 2. Did I miss something?
I think that Tenenbaum = Lutece, they both did things that they regretted, and they both tried to make up for it. If anything I think Liz = Eleanor.
Wait a second.... What happened to part 1? Lutece siblings stole it?
I only think Fontaine is Fink because Fontaine developed and distributed plasmids as a business man and Fink did the same with vigors.
Hey everyone November 12 is the confirmed release date.
How can that be possible when this DLC is before the fall of rapture i.e before the little sisters were saved at the end of bioshock one?