not just that, it shows how quickly skilled players can be overwhelmed as soon as a significant switch happens. obviously the game is stacked against them, but its still cool to see that understanding of the mechanics is a large part of skill, but when the game mechanics change it can be a struggle. speaking as a metal player
@@mfn1311 Yeah I saw some bronze players claiming that if gm mercy players started u2gm in bronze, instead of gold/plat, they wouldnt be able to win games as easily because your team sucks here, you cant get value out of dmg boost etc. In reality gm mercy's would just slaughter everyone themselves just like here lol
@@mfn1311 I mean, if you're good you don't even have to do it yourself. You're 1/5th of the equation. Just play more games and it'll all average out and you'll climb. Never really understood the mentality of "elo hell". Especially in lower ranks. If I had to say there was an elo hell, it would be in the top 10% of the playerbase. Because the jump from top 10% to top 1% requires far more work than the jump from bottom 90% to top 10%. And it's not always obvious what you need to work on to become that top 1% player.
Dude they looked like they had so much fun! I love this video cus the GM's actually enjoyed it. It musta been like playing against Insane level AI in the training range or somethin
I am the bronze tank Mikiea from the video, it was a fun experience but I was shaking from the nervousness of 4k ppl watching and I’m a healer main idkw I was playing tank
Lil advice Game knowledge identifying main if you are a main support why not play support that is your main so work on that first before you move onto anything, second 9:47 ‘coms’ you see how you made it to the point on the zen that was good “positioning”if you did that and you call out and came up with a plan with your team, you all could’ve jumped in and eliminated him, mechanics using your cool downs, calling out the enemy cool downs, coms, a plan, and good positioning are mechanics that can take you very far you don’t always need to work on your aim in the FPS shooter
You are bronze it doesn’t matter, they are trying to put the worst players against the best players, if you are worse on tank even better for the video because you are meant to be bad
That observation you made about low-ranked players only calling out what's happening rather than planning fights is actually really smart. Gonna change that about myself. Look at Jay3 producing educational content KEKW.
damn this kinda makes me wish that I played back in OW1 when there was two tanks side by side going in, even though i started in OW2 with solo tanking the idea of having another tank going in with you seems so much more fun. Fun video!
tank synergies were really fun on certain maps. classic rein zarya on kings row is still fun to play. but tbh ow2 is better off without 2 tanks. i don't want double shield again, IT WAS MISERABLE
I have a video idea for you jay. how many bronzes does it take to take out a top 500 tank with 5x stats. Keep adding bronze players til he/she loses. I’d love to see ZBRA with Doom on that.
Video suggestion if it hasn’t been done before. Do a Bronze vs Top 500 team or Grandmaster and every game the Bronze team lose they get to pick a player from the enemy team to join them
You should do a video of 5 Gold vs 5 Diamonds but everytime the gold lose they get to add a person. But secretly have 5 GMs as the gold team too hear the diamonds reactions
"let me know when I can play the game" lmao also Jay, anyone below diamond doesn't communicate like you mentioned around the 7:30 mark. If you try to do that, ppl just get pissy and take everything personal. I've found it better that you just don't say anything lol
Jay I would really like to see you coaching the bronze players, instead of you sitting on the throne like Ceasar laughing, as Goliath rips the head of the peasant that stole a loaf of bread. Help them learn and teach them that they already have what it takes to win and all they need is a little tuning and guidance. You could even do "ADOPT A Bronze" series, where you take a legit Bronze and coach him/her to Masters and you do not give up until they have done that as your own goal and for accountability. To qualify you have to have a certain amount of hours in the game, certain pc specs, and certain internet specs as you can't control things like bad fps or packet loss.
That would take such a long time to do because OW isnt just a simple game where you can train your aim and be good like val or CS. Youve gotta take into account CD management (youre own, your teams, and the enemies), and youve gotta take into account how faster a bronze person does specific actions. People love to talk about positioning and aim when it comes to low ranked players but most dont realize that another big reason they're in bronze is because they take sooooo long to do a specific action or to make a decision. Many years ago when I was still diamond and I played my first masters game, I was SHOCKED at how fast the pace of the game was. I couldnt keep up. I didnt even play my main and I told my team that I didnt belong there. Instead I went Zen and just discorded whoever my team told me to discord. I had the mechanics, and I had the positioning and the aim but what I didnt have was making decisions much faster than I normally did. It took a long time for me to get used to the speed at which the game moves. Now that I've reached GM, when I play QP with my actual bronze and silver friends and even a couple diamond friends, the game moves much slower. Its not even like they have bad aim because they dont. They just take so much time making certain decisions. Thats something thats really really hard to train. You cant speed up someones thought process. The furthest a bronze player can be taken, especially if they've been playing OW for at least a year or 2, is probably plat/diamond.
@@erickim1739It's funny, you make the very valid point of explaining why good aim and positioning can only take you so far in OW, why game knowledge and understanding is vital and how fast decision make the difference in the highest ranks, just to then diminish high level CS and Valorant to "having good aim".
@@erickim1739 Its a progression, you're reply suggests that they would go from bronze to masters and that is not what I am suggesting. Coach a bronze into silver by honing a set of skills, the gold, then into plat ect. It may take a long time but I think the content would be worth it and it would show the world that YOU CAN DO IT. You dont have to think its a good idea, but it is. And I think Jay could make a series just out of the auditioning phase to select the Bronze to adopt. Game of Thrones was complicated but they did it and they almost got canceled because someone didn't like the idea NOW GOT is the GOAT of TV series. If I as a shitty GM5 can coach someone into diamond, JAY can coach someone into Masters. I work full time too. Jay is a content creator, so here it is. If Jay thinks its too hard well, fine dont try but I think it could turn into something really good. He could even set it up so that if he does do it, the bronze player gets a New PC and Jay gets 1 gifted sub from each of his audience members. I am not the on that works for Jays content team but I think if people think outside of the box, it could be a huge hit.
4:20-4:30 I like the implication of 4v6 equals Overwatch 3 vs Overwatch 1 because it implies that every iteration will continue removing players. Do you think by Overwatch 6 we’ll have a regular PvE system or will that still be paid content?
The problem with the bronze team is that they were just using heroes that require mechanical skill to actually have value on. For example, a bronze tracer is not going to do anything vs T500 players
Ok so I have a video idea. Two teams of high skilled players (top 500 for example) and 1 person on each team is a bronze. Each team needs to play the game but protect their bronze player. If the other team kills the enemy bronze, they get a point. No camping in spawn, control maps work best…idk I just thought of it and even if it’s dumb here it is.
I think what’s funny is comparing the gms vs. plats to this. The GMS mess around enough to almost lose the 5v5 vs. plats. The top 500s massacre the bronzes the whole game when it’s a 4v5. Seems like you need to be ruthless to make it to top 500 lol.
Maybe do a video were the gm team can only play one role. Like, they can only play dps or support as an example and then play against a lower rank like usual
5 Top 500’s vs 5 bronzes but everytime the bronzes lose, they swap a player (ie first loss it’s 4 top 500’s and 1 bronze vs 1 top 500 and 4 bronzes) and so on and so forth
kinda crazy how they lasted that long even with tank stacking very impressive
True I forgotten they had 3 tanks AND 3 SUPPORTS
@@shirosurfer8864 old goat shit + 2dps player above... jeez, so hard. They kept alive so long
@@aleksfreeman3627 goats comp on steroids lol
this just goes to show how big the skill gap is from low ranks to high ranks
i mean obviously it’s a 6 skill tier difference
Between the lowest and highest rank, yeah its huge. If they tried this again but Top 500 vs Plat, then it will end way sooner
3 top 500 lost against 6 bronze in one round, i saw it live.... that upload would be great to see.....
not just that, it shows how quickly skilled players can be overwhelmed as soon as a significant switch happens. obviously the game is stacked against them, but its still cool to see that understanding of the mechanics is a large part of skill, but when the game mechanics change it can be a struggle. speaking as a metal player
As it should be I mean I wouldn't have been surprised if the top 500 players actually won the last one too
I laughed my ass off when Mercy started pistoling and then was about to retreat before he got Nanoed and went like "alright 2nd round i guess"
18:01 they ask for an extra tank for three shield strat, then they end up going orisa, sigma and ballsack 😹😹 classic bronze moment
"You cant carry as mercy in bronze!"
26:21:
Haha if there’s one thing that’s certain is if you’re a bronze healer you have no excuse that your team sucks, if you’re good, you can do it yourself
@@mfn1311 Yeah I saw some bronze players claiming that if gm mercy players started u2gm in bronze, instead of gold/plat, they wouldnt be able to win games as easily because your team sucks here, you cant get value out of dmg boost etc. In reality gm mercy's would just slaughter everyone themselves just like here lol
Thats who the +5 ammo buff was meant for
Just play like top 500 in bronze bro
@@mfn1311 I mean, if you're good you don't even have to do it yourself. You're 1/5th of the equation. Just play more games and it'll all average out and you'll climb. Never really understood the mentality of "elo hell". Especially in lower ranks.
If I had to say there was an elo hell, it would be in the top 10% of the playerbase. Because the jump from top 10% to top 1% requires far more work than the jump from bottom 90% to top 10%. And it's not always obvious what you need to work on to become that top 1% player.
22:26 when the ball landed in without slam ts had me crying, jays face too
This looks fun af. Idk how the bronze players aren't doing better tbh.
No coordination.
They bronze
They're bronze for a reason
I bet one of the GM players has more playtime than all bronze combined
Dude they're bronze
Dude they looked like they had so much fun! I love this video cus the GM's actually enjoyed it. It musta been like playing against Insane level AI in the training range or somethin
I would love to see that mercy vs 5 bronze lol
Make it better, 2 mercys, so they can actually fly without ult
@@Sac-chan agreed. Mercy is dependent on her team for mobility and ult charge from healing. Two mercy’s with 2.5x stats I think would be good
Video idea. Rank vs lower rank but every time lower rank loses one of their player upgrades to higher rank.
Like one person gets traded for a higher rank player?
@@insertcleverjoke8383 yep
That would take forever unless several ranks increased at a time, or traded the entire team for a team of the next rank and so forth.
“Its Overwatch 3 vs Overwatch 1” 😂😂😂
Jay3: Watch this [Cursed] pop off...
Proceeds to doom 4-6 players in a row
God I wish I could've seen the stats for this game
I am the bronze tank Mikiea from the video, it was a fun experience but I was shaking from the nervousness of 4k ppl watching and I’m a healer main idkw I was playing tank
Lil advice Game knowledge identifying main if you are a main support why not play support that is your main so work on that first before you move onto anything, second 9:47 ‘coms’ you see how you made it to the point on the zen that was good “positioning”if you did that and you call out and came up with a plan with your team, you all could’ve jumped in and eliminated him, mechanics using your cool downs, calling out the enemy cool downs, coms, a plan, and good positioning are mechanics that can take you very far you don’t always need to work on your aim in the FPS shooter
@@dukejoshua4295 Ik thx for the advice I usually play better but pressure got the best of me
You are bronze it doesn’t matter, they are trying to put the worst players against the best players, if you are worse on tank even better for the video because you are meant to be bad
That observation you made about low-ranked players only calling out what's happening rather than planning fights is actually really smart. Gonna change that about myself. Look at Jay3 producing educational content KEKW.
10:30 “if the bronze team went dive” Jay3
Thank you for posting this on yt jay, this is better than live fr
that dps mercy by the gm had me wheezing
Shartcandy's aim was soo crazy man, his tracking almost looks like an aimbot it's insane.
that mercy movement was insane like just how can you be that consistent
damn this kinda makes me wish that I played back in OW1 when there was two tanks side by side going in, even though i started in OW2 with solo tanking the idea of having another tank going in with you seems so much more fun. Fun video!
Spoiler: It wasn't
Removing the second tank was the smartest thing OW2 ever did
It was, now off-tanks are completely irrelevant
tank synergies were really fun on certain maps. classic rein zarya on kings row is still fun to play. but tbh ow2 is better off without 2 tanks. i don't want double shield again, IT WAS MISERABLE
It was pure evil. Sounds fun in theory but in practice it was all sigma orisa double shield + bast, completely unfun
It actually wasn't fun you kinda just spammed the choke for hours and nothing happened
Seeing the 4v an army reminds me of junkenstien’s and other pve game modes
2:24: That looked like an incredible transition.
Jay should do a video were there's a full team of top 500s against a giga buffed bronze
Would be way too easy unless the bronze had like 10x stats. GM + proper CD usage = easy win vs a single hero
@@dominic2123 it would be like a raid boss. We open with CC, put the damage amp on it, we bring bastion. we wait for this corner. we sneak up on it.
just an orisa with 12x the stats. good luck. gonna need to call the fucking UN to kill that
that's gonna be too ez for the GMs, even diamond will manage, kiting a single bronze player will be a piece of cake.
Pretty sure he has
@5:59 jays frustration with his chat was the funniest thing for me here
This actually seems like such a cool concept for PVE, if that thing actually ever comes out
It's funny ppl don't think abt it but I think PVE will be alot bigger than this
@@Noctua8 This aged like milk
@@Noctua8 😳
Love how Shart's Mercy stole the show. Shart is underrated imo.
I wonder what 5gms but can only play support vs 5 bronzes would be
This!!! I like this!!!
would be a stomp, even with 5 lifeweavers
I have a video idea for you jay.
how many bronzes does it take to take out a top 500 tank with 5x stats. Keep adding bronze players til he/she loses. I’d love to see ZBRA with Doom on that.
Nanoed Mercy might be the most amazing thing I've seen in OW LOL
7:51 ahh yes my favourite blue blinking blinding symettra
The reason why you dont hear that in bronze is A people dont believe in comms in low elo and B people rarely listen anyways unfortunately
13:56
I’m behind the enemy team! I better blink down the stairs before I peek the corner so they know I’m here. - the bronze tracer probably.
When is top 500 doomfist vs bronze coming out
The gms make reaper look so op
Reaper is strong af in lower ranks
Never seen a 4v5 and the people with 4 on there team are spawn camping 😂☠️
He said “I wouldn’t advise flying during a storm” in that part where you couldn’t tell what the voice line was
You guys see that glitch at 7:35? Lol dont remember symmetra moving that fast and dual wielding pistols
Yo nice catch lmfao
I really wish the top500 would have tried Pharmercy, would have loved to see how the bronzes would deal with it
nobody gonna talk about the spinning monkey corpse at 13:15 ?
Video suggestion if it hasn’t been done before. Do a Bronze vs Top 500 team or Grandmaster and every game the Bronze team lose they get to pick a player from the enemy team to join them
5:58 jay being d head for no reason
thanks for using my suggestion! great video
Honestly it was kind of fun to see Ouly pop off a bit. It seemed like he was having fun
Megs bap was the start of the show
That mercy absolutely spazzed out😳😳
ayo Jay3, congrats on 300K, all behold the tall, buffed, handsome guy, not JAY3
I'm glad Redshell's boyfriend is playing his character while he's away from OW. :')
Casey in this? Sheeesh
the GM mercy was COOKING
Funniest part. 15:34 rein turns for one second and gets popped
They had the power to go goats and didn't do it. They are pure of heart
I'll just leave him alone 🤣 16:03
Its the imfamous shartcandy from supers videos
Will you upload the 3 top 500 vs 6 bronze where these top 500 lost?? That was awesome to watch and i cant find it on your streams ;(
Conclusion: GM Mercy+pew pew pew = annihilation bronze team
Video idea: I bronze player with 5x stats vs 5 top 500
They already did it check his channel
Best content of all ow steamers we love jay3
I like this "member number" balance more than the "buffed" top 500 balance
5v5 each team has a bronze, silver gold, plat and diamond. Chat and Jay need to watch and figure out what player is what rank.
Ayyyyy jay3 you listened to yo boi. I haven't watched the whole thing but it should be a banger.
That battle mercy part had me hype lol
The first video i saw from jey and once he said if i dont sub the duck gets it ive been subed ever since outta fear for the ducks life
You should do a video of 5 Gold vs 5 Diamonds but everytime the gold lose they get to add a person. But secretly have 5 GMs as the gold team too hear the diamonds reactions
13:17 spinning monkeeeeeeee
That tracer saying hi as if they're not a top500 playing against bronze players???
you should do a mercy 1v5 agasint bronze again but she can have a teamate whos is just their for her shift
Like Sasuke would say to Naruto's shadow clones: "3 times 0 is still 0" xD
The 500 make their characters lore accurate.
"let me know when I can play the game" lmao
also Jay, anyone below diamond doesn't communicate like you mentioned around the 7:30 mark. If you try to do that, ppl just get pissy and take everything personal. I've found it better that you just don't say anything lol
love this series with unic chalenges
7:56
-wait, I'm dog shit
-you are
Typical best friend
Jay I would really like to see you coaching the bronze players, instead of you sitting on the throne like Ceasar laughing, as Goliath rips the head of the peasant that stole a loaf of bread. Help them learn and teach them that they already have what it takes to win and all they need is a little tuning and guidance. You could even do "ADOPT A Bronze" series, where you take a legit Bronze and coach him/her to Masters and you do not give up until they have done that as your own goal and for accountability. To qualify you have to have a certain amount of hours in the game, certain pc specs, and certain internet specs as you can't control things like bad fps or packet loss.
That would take such a long time to do because OW isnt just a simple game where you can train your aim and be good like val or CS. Youve gotta take into account CD management (youre own, your teams, and the enemies), and youve gotta take into account how faster a bronze person does specific actions. People love to talk about positioning and aim when it comes to low ranked players but most dont realize that another big reason they're in bronze is because they take sooooo long to do a specific action or to make a decision. Many years ago when I was still diamond and I played my first masters game, I was SHOCKED at how fast the pace of the game was. I couldnt keep up. I didnt even play my main and I told my team that I didnt belong there. Instead I went Zen and just discorded whoever my team told me to discord. I had the mechanics, and I had the positioning and the aim but what I didnt have was making decisions much faster than I normally did. It took a long time for me to get used to the speed at which the game moves. Now that I've reached GM, when I play QP with my actual bronze and silver friends and even a couple diamond friends, the game moves much slower. Its not even like they have bad aim because they dont. They just take so much time making certain decisions.
Thats something thats really really hard to train. You cant speed up someones thought process. The furthest a bronze player can be taken, especially if they've been playing OW for at least a year or 2, is probably plat/diamond.
@@erickim1739It's funny, you make the very valid point of explaining why good aim and positioning can only take you so far in OW, why game knowledge and understanding is vital and how fast decision make the difference in the highest ranks, just to then diminish high level CS and Valorant to "having good aim".
@@erickim1739 Its a progression, you're reply suggests that they would go from bronze to masters and that is not what I am suggesting. Coach a bronze into silver by honing a set of skills, the gold, then into plat ect. It may take a long time but I think the content would be worth it and it would show the world that YOU CAN DO IT. You dont have to think its a good idea, but it is. And I think Jay could make a series just out of the auditioning phase to select the Bronze to adopt. Game of Thrones was complicated but they did it and they almost got canceled because someone didn't like the idea NOW GOT is the GOAT of TV series.
If I as a shitty GM5 can coach someone into diamond, JAY can coach someone into Masters. I work full time too. Jay is a content creator, so here it is. If Jay thinks its too hard well, fine dont try but I think it could turn into something really good. He could even set it up so that if he does do it, the bronze player gets a New PC and Jay gets 1 gifted sub from each of his audience members. I am not the on that works for Jays content team but I think if people think outside of the box, it could be a huge hit.
You should have one where the bronzes have a coach guiding them!😊
Bronze team: "would be good to add a third tank, means another shield for us" then proceeds to play 2 tanks without shields for the team
I gotta say, watching on RUclips when it’s not live is better
If they went pharah it wouldve been over for the bronze players
4:20-4:30 I like the implication of 4v6 equals Overwatch 3 vs Overwatch 1 because it implies that every iteration will continue removing players.
Do you think by Overwatch 6 we’ll have a regular PvE system or will that still be paid content?
never thought i'd see a bronze sym with a gold gun
The problem with the bronze team is that they were just using heroes that require mechanical skill to actually have value on. For example, a bronze tracer is not going to do anything vs T500 players
I'll bet the 4v8 outome would have been different if the role lock was mirrored and doubled.
I wanna get a tracer skin but I don’t know what to get. I was thinking the graffiti skin or tagged skin. Any recommendations?
Ok so I have a video idea. Two teams of high skilled players (top 500 for example) and 1 person on each team is a bronze. Each team needs to play the game but protect their bronze player. If the other team kills the enemy bronze, they get a point. No camping in spawn, control maps work best…idk I just thought of it and even if it’s dumb here it is.
The exact same video but with silvers then golds would be interesting
No I need the run back!! The GM’s had it!!
I only subbed to save the duck. I hope you're happy Jay 😂
- 3 tanks and 3 supports
- They don't run GOATS
Lmao
What if you add a player one rank higher each time the gms win?
I think what’s funny is comparing the gms vs. plats to this. The GMS mess around enough to almost lose the 5v5 vs. plats. The top 500s massacre the bronzes the whole game when it’s a 4v5. Seems like you need to be ruthless to make it to top 500 lol.
Bro the mercy was cooking
Maybe do a video were the gm team can only play one role. Like, they can only play dps or support as an example and then play against a lower rank like usual
1 necros on genji against 11 bronzes
Congrats for those 300k subs🎉
these the guys throwing my games
Meg going thru world war 9 on Ana🤣
And then there's EU Bronze 5... no comms, ever xD
I assume it’s the same in na as well but since they are all in a discord call it’s easier to do
2 GMs vs 5 or 4bronze or silvers but GMs get to pick their comp and the bronze comp?
5 Top 500’s vs 5 bronzes but everytime the bronzes lose, they swap a player (ie first loss it’s 4 top 500’s and 1 bronze vs 1 top 500 and 4 bronzes) and so on and so forth
no shot Willius is saying that hypocritical bs LMAOO
thought he did sum
I do not believe Megatron is t500💀💀
7:41 sym as tracer