When I first started playing fps's I learned that standing still is a death sentence. I started watching Arge and saw that he stands still quite a lot when lining up shots. I started mimicking his playstyle and got soooo much better with Hanzo... except against Widow, don't stand still in front of her.
its mostly because with most characters you can just fire in a general direction and get some value, with hanzo he really needs to focus almost entirely on his aim and not on his moves. so moving can mess you up a lot.
The Overwatch subreddit is filled with support mains who want Hanzo and Widow one shot abilities removed😂. Like dude, just don't peek them or walk in a straight line
Honestly outside the moira who seemed to just be throwing, they were making some smart plays and I wouldn't have guessed the tracers was actually bronze!
That's great but being a one trick has its disadvantages. In this case, pharah, genji, tracer, sometimes widow, dva, ashe, bap, moira, and kiriko. If your other dps is not a hitscan you'll have a bad time.
The most likely reason he cancels the storm arrows is because they do less damage. With boosted stats, it probably doesnt matter, but it is most likely muscle memory from regular games, where sometimes that longer fire speed is better for the higher damage
Y’all both cookin tbh. Bros acting like he’s getting focused cuz of some grudge, and not because he’s a support sitting in the open 😂 If that Moira main reads this: Arrge almost assuredly forgot about you after these matches lil bro. You’re not him 😂
One thing I learned from watching Arge is to be patient. If the enemy team doesn't see you, they can't shoot you, and he uses it so well to line up shots.
Watch Arrge's videos explaining his playstyle. He plays Assassin Hanzo. Lots of sneaky flanks, only peaks when he has to. Hanzo's best when his enemies aren't aware of him. Arrge's accuracy is over 70%. And he's amazing to watch. Lot's of nice frags.
Honestly, Aarge vs bronze is the most interesting one from series, he's like anime protagonist outsmarting everyone on his way through. And also so satisfying shots and tricks.
Aarge has this special method of doing his ults in regular play, and it was really holding him back in this particular scenario. Could have been spamming that dragon like crazy. But otherwise, just... absolutely wonderful gameplay from our beloved Hanzo King.
these videos are so interesting to watch until the bronzes go torb and sym, i get why they'd do that but it's like letting machines do their job instead of trying to play better and learn stuff from it
To be fair to the bronzes I think they realized that their key to victory was distraction. They didn't have to kill him, only delay him. I think thats why they went with picks that required him to move his focus. We saw the sym and torb turrents delay him so that the rein could move in and pressure him later into the match. They only killed him a few times but each time they did it was because they exhausted his resources and pushed him into a corner where he couldn't escape.
I mean, that’s the point of those characters and in a competitive setting you do what you have to to win. Sometimes you learn it’s better to switch than stay getting dominated. Players who can’t adjust to switch stay hard stuck silver most of the time
Nah, it's 100% the correct play except the torb Turrets deny space much like what reinhardt does, and in case of symm it also slows him down which screws with his muscle memory a lot(people usually aim with movement too) Plus small target is a great addition for a single target sniper like hanzo
@@jonathonpults-nd7lk swapping in ranked only works if you're of equal skill. If the player is leagues ahead of you a swap won't mean much, cause there is no counter to good play. You see too many people spread themselves thin in low elos cause they think they're good with all the characters in a role and more often than not they don't climb much if at all because of it.
So the hanzo with 2.5 the stats, one shots just about everything...vs regular hanzo with regular stats, one shots just about everything. insert "they are the same picture" meme.
The bronze players played it so smart, symmetra for some extra lasers, thorbjörn for the turret, reinhardt for shield, that is 4 extra targets for the hanzo to try shoot down while trying to take down reinhardts shield to get to the squishies, but then they switched to other tanks that could just be 2-shotted and he could choose to pick the squishies whenever he wanted 🙂 Just an awesome Hanzo player
Knew it was arrge before I even clicked on the video. I always love watching him and Kenzo duo -- Also Moira didnt go Brig because in gold and below no one can play Zen, Brig or Ana. The "best" healers are just heal bot Lucios, Mercys and DPS Moiras
One thing that would be interesting is to see how well bronzes would do with like a high level coach, like telling them no the Lucio speed boost is not going to cause Arrge of all people to miss shots… but having a zen reduces his effective health by 30%. Maybe like bronzes vs. silvers but with a top 500 in the bronze’s coms who can spectate any of them.
I love it, let those bronze know not to peek without cd and no standing in the open like a bot, and no streaming in one at a time feeding, but i guess they don't learn
nice CHEATING spammer Sockboy! 1 thorbijörn 225HP turett 1 hit???? since when? 550HP roadhog 2 hit???? since when? look at it properly he cheating just you dont look the trainer in to the windows desktop
I've watching arrge for months now and I'm glad I did-his videos hv helped me sooooo muchh-I'm still nowhere near to what I hope to be but I'll get there, slowly but surely...IF ur reading this arrge, plz don't ever stop streaming and posting videos, I've learnt a lot bcoz of u, thnx a bunch man-I mean it
It feels like (with my low knowledge of Hanzo) that him popping and cancelling Storm Arrows at odd times is to use it as a finishing tool after things like body shots on tanks or other hard targets / bursting unaware targets down before reaction, and cancelling early to keep the better base arrow damage / securing the desired kill and trying to get it back sooner
It wouldn’t work as well as most other characters. Hanzo barley works because (especially with Arge), he plays by picking players off when they’re distracted. He couldn’t do that here because he was the only target, but Hanzo has enough mobility in his kit to adapt, especially with the higher stats. Widow doesn’t have many mobility options, and she doesn’t have many damage options. Just the grappling hook(which wouldn’t take you far when fighting 5 different players) and the venom mine(which isn’t doing anything against an entire team). A Widow would have to snipe every single player from far away, and *then* move in the cap the point. Wouldn’t work well for the widow.
I'm quite curious why jay decides to split his posts between this and his main channel despite the content seeming identical. This video was honestly really good and should be on the main channel.
The accuracy is INSANE!!! (they gave hanzo 500 HP. Hes just tanking hits. Also body shots are insta-kill.) (edit: later in the vid he has 600hp 22:10 takes a full rhine charge and survives.)
as a hanzo main whos watched arrge now for the past 6 months bro is a guru when it comes to hanzo from his game knowledge to the way he aims hes just cracked
nice CHEATING spammer Sockboy! 1 thorbijörn 225HP turett 1 hit???? since when? 550HP roadhog 2 hit???? since when? look at it properly! he cheating just the trainer run in to the windows desktop and you dont notice
I think this would be easier for the one if they had the healing passive from the support class and / or two or three player push speed on cart Higher stats cant solve those core issues for any character, with the exception of sustain for supports and certain exceptions like reaper
I dont get why they never play genji, the deflected damage would still be the multiplied damage meaning (against hanzo) he woulda 1 shot if he deflects into a headshot, and it would also be strong against pretty much anyone genji can deflect
in Arrge's old video, he did say that he actually practices his aim to make it more enjoyable to watch. (I think the video was he shooting the flying bots on Lijiang map) I started to watch him few years ago and his editing improved so much. He got so many subscribes on youtube recently, he earned it for sure.
Give the pro support passive, I beg of you, they obliterate the bronze every time but then slowly get chipped down and that’s considered a w because they have no healing, it’s so sad
@@chaelpsonnen5092Hanzo has to take many shots and a long time to destroy the turrets, sometimes even wasting Storm Arrows on them which completely ruins it.
Going double turrets in a 1v5 is so fcking low ball, I hate how grimey these bronze players get sometimes. The point of the game is to work together as a team to defeat the raid boss, not sit back and have 4 turrets play for you.
Arrge is actually a gigabrain Hanzo. Glad to see you featuring him in a video.
He already was in another video
He really is. I love watching him play Hanzo. His tricks and rollouts and everything on top of his aim are all just amazing.
@@ichigokurosaki69 which one?
@@lex6637 on the main channel
@@Zeth3187 hanzo grindset never stops
17:52 "he can't aim at all of us" she says, as he proceeds to murder the entire team in the span of the next 5 seconds
Lol
Exactly my thought
Bronze strategies and callouts:
she talks to much ngl kinda annoying
When I first started playing fps's I learned that standing still is a death sentence. I started watching Arge and saw that he stands still quite a lot when lining up shots. I started mimicking his playstyle and got soooo much better with Hanzo... except against Widow, don't stand still in front of her.
Pro tip: try and save the recon for widow and pop her while she's not looking at you if possible. Learned that watching Arrge
Remember sometimes making the widow looks at you gives your team a fighting chance
its mostly because with most characters you can just fire in a general direction and get some value, with hanzo he really needs to focus almost entirely on his aim and not on his moves. so moving can mess you up a lot.
This rule is variable. You want to prefer your aim accuracy over movement if you can kill them faster than they can kill you.
The Overwatch subreddit is filled with support mains who want Hanzo and Widow one shot abilities removed😂. Like dude, just don't peek them or walk in a straight line
Bro is lore accurate hanzo
every single video: "The bronzes aren't listening to the stream right?"
every single time: bronze repeats what jay said
What
Honestly outside the moira who seemed to just be throwing, they were making some smart plays and I wouldn't have guessed the tracers was actually bronze!
Are you retarded? In what world is that tracer anything above bronze
he had the movement and timing tps but he couldnt hit any shots
the bastion/soldier that just stood still multiple times 😍😍😍
@@kovoempire4093he honestly didn’t have the movement. He used his blink too much and his recall in poor situations
Bruce Lee once said "I fear not the man who has practiced 10,000 kicks once, but I fear the man who has practiced one kick 10,000 times."
ok
@@willmcclard206 ok
Who bro?
@@quocbinh6674 me bro
That's great but being a one trick has its disadvantages. In this case, pharah, genji, tracer, sometimes widow, dva, ashe, bap, moira, and kiriko.
If your other dps is not a hitscan you'll have a bad time.
Bronze Moira playing exactly how I expected him to play
Lol you mean like a dumbass with no aim? Pretty sure that guy shit talked Arrge in the previous video.
The dictionary definition of the average Moira player😂😂
I mean, it's not like they can really outheal the dmg
@@driedurchin
He’s still playing stupidly, in the open often alone against a buffed hanzo, common Moira L
@@driedurchin he’s trying to ego a hanzo and you never do that normally.
He’s over here trying to ego the best hanzo with buffed stats
Watching arrge play Hanzo is so satisfying
bro is so artistic
Bro we need arrge and kenzo vs 10 bronze
Lore accurate Hanzo
The most likely reason he cancels the storm arrows is because they do less damage. With boosted stats, it probably doesnt matter, but it is most likely muscle memory from regular games, where sometimes that longer fire speed is better for the higher damage
I'm pretty sure it's just because they are loud
@@knyt0 that too, lol
He does it for the accuracy stats too
It's probably mostly to put storm arrows on cooldown. You get them back faster if you just cancel them.
Dumb reason since most of the time he does that he doesn’t even shoot a normal arrow or storm within like 30 seconds of canceling it
The moira's ego is out of control bro. I remember the first episode guy literally downplays Arrge's aim lmao
its the fact that its coming from a moira main lmao. the joke writes itself.
Y’all both cookin tbh. Bros acting like he’s getting focused cuz of some grudge, and not because he’s a support sitting in the open 😂
If that Moira main reads this: Arrge almost assuredly forgot about you after these matches lil bro. You’re not him 😂
About what you'd expect from a Moira player tbh
the bronze Moira took it personally
This guy aims how I THINK I aim on Hanzo in plat, I just forget the 20 shots I missed before I hit the one flick 🤣
But that feeling of getting the flick tho 😏
nice CHEATING spammer Sockboy! 1 thorbijörn 225HP turett 1 hit???? since when? 550HP roadhog 2 hit???? since when? look at it properly
@@norberthorvath42the dmg is increased to help him
@@norberthorvath42 He gets 2.5x Stats which means 2.5x Damage... Watch the Video Properly.
@@norberthorvath42dude definitely has autoaim, you can tell the way his cross hair chased tracer
Watching a caveman brain Moira get shit on repeatedly made this video so much better💀
Mf trying to 1v1 a 600 HP Hanzo that 1 shot Body shots is actually mental ☠️
@@Nashed_ gotta give ‘em credit he wouldn’t ever give up not after 1 death not after 5 not even after 10 just solo pushing😂😂
typical low elo dps moira
@@Nashed_and then complaining about it lol
@@thegoblineer3162 “bro he’s salty he’s focusing me” you’re fading into a hanzo that one shots he’s just shooting and you’re always there😂😂😂
One thing I learned from watching Arge is to be patient. If the enemy team doesn't see you, they can't shoot you, and he uses it so well to line up shots.
This video is just showing how much damage Hanzo would realistically do
I dont think that lore accurate hanzo could kill rein with 2 bodyshots
@@Какой-тоНоунейм-б5ж i headshot and reins dies
Probably not he is shooting well... arrows? And yeh hanzos incredible with a bow but like rein is massively armored
I mean, Rein usually doesnt wear a helmet, so..
@@9895_ but can like 3 or 4 arrows Penetrate that much body armor no
Watch Arrge's videos explaining his playstyle. He plays Assassin Hanzo. Lots of sneaky flanks, only peaks when he has to. Hanzo's best when his enemies aren't aware of him. Arrge's accuracy is over 70%. And he's amazing to watch. Lot's of nice frags.
The hanzo uses his sonic arrow like he's throwing smokes in CSGO
Honestly, Aarge vs bronze is the most interesting one from series, he's like anime protagonist outsmarting everyone on his way through. And also so satisfying shots and tricks.
That tracer was carrying so hard😂
i’d be blushing if i was a bronze tracer and a top 500 hanzo was saying i was good 😭
somehow jay3 always manages to find the goofiest bronze players and i dont know how
Okay but there tank was adorable and honestly trying the most lol
@@noobtuber47adorable how? Because she's a she?
There was just three people talking and the girl was on support
Love to see my man Arrge getting more recognition, dude is easily the best Hanzo main
Arrge's first defense on Eichenwalde was beautiful. Outplayed and bamboozled 'em.
Aarge has this special method of doing his ults in regular play, and it was really holding him back in this particular scenario. Could have been spamming that dragon like crazy.
But otherwise, just... absolutely wonderful gameplay from our beloved Hanzo King.
this is why i love arrges content
arrge is just on another level when it comes to moving around the map
how bronze players described scatter arrow hanzo:
if scatter was still a thing arrge would have won round 1 lol
@@MoistYoghurt christ. Can you imagine...what would that have been, 1200 damage on a short cooldown?
@@skinnysnorlax1876 that'd literally be a full team wipe each scatter
@@skinnysnorlax1876 omg it would be so bad but so beautiful
That shield rein has would have been melted every time he put it up. NGL, kind of wish I could see that
10:59 that ”WHAT?!” was raw emotion😂
0:45 Like cherry blossoms in the rain?
these videos are so interesting to watch until the bronzes go torb and sym, i get why they'd do that but it's like letting machines do their job instead of trying to play better and learn stuff from it
To be fair to the bronzes I think they realized that their key to victory was distraction. They didn't have to kill him, only delay him. I think thats why they went with picks that required him to move his focus. We saw the sym and torb turrents delay him so that the rein could move in and pressure him later into the match. They only killed him a few times but each time they did it was because they exhausted his resources and pushed him into a corner where he couldn't escape.
I mean, that’s the point of those characters and in a competitive setting you do what you have to to win. Sometimes you learn it’s better to switch than stay getting dominated. Players who can’t adjust to switch stay hard stuck silver most of the time
Yep that's why they do it, every game is some form of cancer hero coz of the easy value
Nah, it's 100% the correct play except the torb
Turrets deny space much like what reinhardt does, and in case of symm it also slows him down which screws with his muscle memory a lot(people usually aim with movement too)
Plus small target is a great addition for a single target sniper like hanzo
@@jonathonpults-nd7lk swapping in ranked only works if you're of equal skill. If the player is leagues ahead of you a swap won't mean much, cause there is no counter to good play. You see too many people spread themselves thin in low elos cause they think they're good with all the characters in a role and more often than not they don't climb much if at all because of it.
Absolutely died at 1:58 "how do we... stop him?"
Arrge is the GOAT of hanzo.
holy shit, this was so fun to watch - it is a treat to watch Arrge cook on Hanzo
I feel like I learned so much about Hanzo just from this
I was waiting for Arrge to do one of these. It's amazing.
That Tracer has got the high of a life time landing that pulse bomb
Bro after that bronze guy said " Roadhog is Mercies husband" the crickets went wild
Burning shame consumed him I hope lmfao
It was such an awkward talking point, & the dude was referring to an old April's fools post from OW
@@Rizzitriver yeah I remember that one but it was just a awkward to listen to
The funny thing is Arrge could probably go against 5 bronze players without multiplied stats and still win 😂
In just deathmatch 100%
So the hanzo with 2.5 the stats, one shots just about everything...vs regular hanzo with regular stats, one shots just about everything. insert "they are the same picture" meme.
Made my day seeing him get featured here for this, this is going exactly how i imagined it
The bronze players played it so smart, symmetra for some extra lasers, thorbjörn for the turret, reinhardt for shield, that is 4 extra targets for the hanzo to try shoot down while trying to take down reinhardts shield to get to the squishies, but then they switched to other tanks that could just be 2-shotted and he could choose to pick the squishies whenever he wanted 🙂
Just an awesome Hanzo player
Knew it was arrge before I even clicked on the video. I always love watching him and Kenzo duo -- Also Moira didnt go Brig because in gold and below no one can play Zen, Brig or Ana. The "best" healers are just heal bot Lucios, Mercys and DPS Moiras
I'm bronze, when I play support I only play Ana or Kiriko.
Bro I WISH there were no Zens in my gold games😭 Im so done with that broken discord orb
lol when i was silver/gold i just started playing brig and instantly got to diamond
@@jackk.4670 are you a tank player?
@@Sac-chan ...yes
he's so calm playing hanzo like he takes his time to aim. i wan to be him so bad 😔
Bro palmed in the head and said sit down😂
I feel like for harder characters like Hanzo you could do a little extra respawn delay for the bronzes if that’s an option
He plays Hanzo like an actual ninja
Idk why the moira kept fading into the hanzo instead of just getting away
When people think playing hanzo is just lucky shots 🤡
Also Arrge do this in Top 500 👏🏻
Full turret builders defense is such a bronze cheese
One of the best version's of 1 Top 500 vs 5 bronze players.
I bet you Arrge’s accuracy was probably 70% that match. Absolutely insane.
I love that you collabed with Arrge for this ❤️❤️❤️
One thing that would be interesting is to see how well bronzes would do with like a high level coach, like telling them no the Lucio speed boost is not going to cause Arrge of all people to miss shots… but having a zen reduces his effective health by 30%. Maybe like bronzes vs. silvers but with a top 500 in the bronze’s coms who can spectate any of them.
and !! having sombra could hack the health backs from
This hear is my worst fear in Overwatch, a Hanzo who can one shot both head and body.
I love it, let those bronze know not to peek without cd and no standing in the open like a bot, and no streaming in one at a time feeding, but i guess they don't learn
these people are definitely not bronze they play as a team consistently and understand the game well. Even more props to Arrge
Moira been complaining the entire game about being targeted like his special
Was looking for this comment hahaha
i love you entering the bronzes call and the first thing you hear is “how do we stop him😨”
More Arrge is always a good thing, well played
lmfao the dude saying "how do we... stop him?" and the chat comment syaing "he's the whole chef". good shit.
This man is everything I strive to be on Hanzo
nice CHEATING spammer Sockboy! 1 thorbijörn 225HP turett 1 hit???? since when? 550HP roadhog 2 hit???? since when? look at it properly he cheating just you dont look the trainer in to the windows desktop
Bro Norbert he has boosted stats that's why he can 1 shot. Did u miss that part?
when he had such a sweet but dirty ulti when they where regrouping but he just waited patiently and smoked them one by one... *chef kiss*
I've watching arrge for months now and I'm glad I did-his videos hv helped me sooooo muchh-I'm still nowhere near to what I hope to be but I'll get there, slowly but surely...IF ur reading this arrge, plz don't ever stop streaming and posting videos, I've learnt a lot bcoz of u, thnx a bunch man-I mean it
It feels like (with my low knowledge of Hanzo) that him popping and cancelling Storm Arrows at odd times is to use it as a finishing tool after things like body shots on tanks or other hard targets / bursting unaware targets down before reaction, and cancelling early to keep the better base arrow damage / securing the desired kill and trying to get it back sooner
Holy crap this video just made me a better Hanzo I don’t know who this guy is but he taught me how to be patient on hanzo
Top 500 ears is a new phrase for me lol what a clip with the laugh after 😂 23:16
“This is what happens a when you’re a hanzo… specialist” you can say one trick it’s okay lmao. Love arrge he’s the reason I main hanzo
That tracer was better than half the plat tracers.
you should do widowmaker next and have kenzo play
As a Widow main I've been waiting for this ever since I started watching this series.
It wouldn’t work as well as most other characters.
Hanzo barley works because (especially with Arge), he plays by picking players off when they’re distracted. He couldn’t do that here because he was the only target, but Hanzo has enough mobility in his kit to adapt, especially with the higher stats.
Widow doesn’t have many mobility options, and she doesn’t have many damage options. Just the grappling hook(which wouldn’t take you far when fighting 5 different players) and the venom mine(which isn’t doing anything against an entire team). A Widow would have to snipe every single player from far away, and *then* move in the cap the point. Wouldn’t work well for the widow.
Isn’t kenzo like low masters?
25:40 TY for getting that Moria’s Ego in check and pointing out “he kept making a mistake.”
7:09 ayoooo what?
7:05 AYO! We just gonna ignore that🤣
I'm quite curious why jay decides to split his posts between this and his main channel despite the content seeming identical. This video was honestly really good and should be on the main channel.
The accuracy is INSANE!!!
(they gave hanzo 500 HP. Hes just tanking hits. Also body shots are insta-kill.)
(edit: later in the vid he has 600hp 22:10 takes a full rhine charge and survives.)
Arrge is #1 and always has been even through all the stream snipes, people throwing his games, and boosts to supports+tanks to counter him.
bro knows the way of the arrow
those bronzes communicate better than the gold plats i play with
Im tryna see chazm on ball vs 5 bronze
I need that tbh
as a hanzo main whos watched arrge now for the past 6 months bro is a guru when it comes to hanzo from his game knowledge to the way he aims hes just cracked
Papa Arrge POG as always.
Hahaha i saw the thumbnail and I immediately thought "its 100 percent definitely arrge" and yea it is 😂
That shot at 10:54 was crazy 💀💀
nice CHEATING spammer Sockboy! 1 thorbijörn 225HP turett 1 hit???? since when? 550HP roadhog 2 hit???? since when? look at it properly! he cheating just the trainer run in to the windows desktop and you dont notice
"can anyone match my skill?"
No, sir. I cannot.
Clean movement
I love Arrge! Dude is the best Hanzo player I've ever seen and has great content.
I think this would be easier for the one if they had the healing passive from the support class and / or two or three player push speed on cart
Higher stats cant solve those core issues for any character, with the exception of sustain for supports and certain exceptions like reaper
yup
Arrge is the only OW content I will watch these days. Nothing else
I dont get why they never play genji, the deflected damage would still be the multiplied damage meaning (against hanzo) he woulda 1 shot if he deflects into a headshot, and it would also be strong against pretty much anyone genji can deflect
true but then again, it is not often you would find a decent genji in bronze
@@TheRisk20 Aiming against a Genji as Hanzo is quite annoying tho, but then again, Arrge eats genjis fot breakfast
in Arrge's old video, he did say that he actually practices his aim to make it more enjoyable to watch. (I think the video was he shooting the flying bots on Lijiang map) I started to watch him few years ago and his editing improved so much. He got so many subscribes on youtube recently, he earned it for sure.
Arge best Hanzo in the World - uwu
(ꏿ﹏ꏿ;)
mom: keep studying physics your going to become a scientist me: no i study for my hanzo
Give the pro support passive, I beg of you, they obliterate the bronze every time but then slowly get chipped down and that’s considered a w because they have no healing, it’s so sad
You know,that you can charge a normal arrow while youre doing your ult?
bro this tracer was so good...
This is my favorite Arrge/Hanzo video.
he did really good, but the fact they went sym and torb was so cringe
How
@@chaelpsonnen5092Hanzo has to take many shots and a long time to destroy the turrets, sometimes even wasting Storm Arrows on them which completely ruins it.
Nah victory at any cost
Playing honorably when your at disadvantaged is a fools gambit
top 500s don’t complain, they adapt. something alot of OW players struggle with
My mans put on a clinic and a trickshot exhibition all at once
Can u Change the title to 1 BUFFED TOP 500 Hanzo?
Once he started climbing over buildings I knew it was over 🤣
Going double turrets in a 1v5 is so fcking low ball, I hate how grimey these bronze players get sometimes. The point of the game is to work together as a team to defeat the raid boss, not sit back and have 4 turrets play for you.