dannyboyrodas Borg was winnig 2 - 1 sets. If he wins the point it is a match point. McEnroe was losing 2 - 1 sets, so if he wins the point it is a set point and ties the match 2 - 2 sets
Bjorn and Conners turned me into tennis. Later in life I would appreciate MacEnroe - he was more jazz and abstract in his play. Borg was just f#cking beautiful !
@@pvpknightsde1052 Not always, there are plenty of baseline rallys too. These players had much bigger characters too. The players today are great, but back then, they were that little bit bigger.
Two geniuses that marked a new era in tennis. Many under appreciated the serve and volley game that Borg could do if he felt was needed. Amazing that Borg’s mind didn’t go off after losing this tiebreak. Any other player most likely would have lost the 5th set, but Borg won the match with his experience and “outside calm” Iceborg! Anyway, how much I miss those times!
As a junior Borg was bad tempered on court. He was once suspended for six months in his club. After that suspension he kept his feelings inside of him. And even so much that the got the nick name Ice Borg.
Classy, understated commentating, unbroken tennis camera-work - not three replays per shot breaking the flow. And an audience that don't scream "Come on Bjorn! Come on John!" immediately before every serve. Great coverage, great watching.
There were a few points that would have been nice to see a replay. But now they would do 2 or 3 for every point. That 20 minutes would have been 45 minutes.
I KNOW THE QUALITY OF FEDERER, NADAL AND DJOKOVIC WITH 20 GRAND SLAMS EACH IS UNBELIEVABLE BUT THIS ERA OF CONNORS, MCENROE AND BORG FOR ME IS THE GREATEST EVER!
Personal opinion, but one thing is objective...Borg is the father of modern tennis..! P.S. He retired at the age of 26 with 11 grand slam titles, and no one knows how many more he would have won if he had continued until he was at least 30...!
as a boy in the 1960s our family had a tennis racket stringing vise and strung rackets for the area players. I learned to love it. I watched everything in the 1970s and 80s.. Love it. However I don't share your feelings on this was the greatest ever. Those days the players could party the night before and then play. These days, they are athletes, better training, better nutrition. They would crush borg or mcenroe.
Seems like yesterday I watched this in the TV department at the Jordan Marsh store in Rhode Island where I worked at the time. There were about 15 people there ALL watching the tie-break. Tennis was HUGE then... AMAZING.
Real tennis fans know that both of these players were to be admired. Borg was easy to love, and I always did. Mac, he grew on us. Especially as the years have gone by and he's matured as an ace analyst/commentator/ambassador of the game.
Very true. I enjoyed the contrasting temperaments. The psychological aspect and attitudes were great. It added a whole other element. Sure Mac was unsportsmanlike and as people would say- 'a spoiled brat', but that made it all the more interesting imo. Had every player's demeanor been that of Borg's or Pete Sampras, it wouldn't have been as exciting- for me anyway.
I wasn't necessarily a McEnroe fan at the time, (I was 12) but I could see he was a great player, and I tried to imitate his unique style on the court, especially his serve. Fun !
I remember this day. I had just started my career as a junior tax accountant, and I remember waking up in my studio apt in downtown Chicago one Sunday AM in June, 1980 and turning on my little 7" TV and discovering this Wimbledon final - I never had watched it before, didn't even know it was on. I had accidentally stumbled on the greatest match in the history of the sport as my introduction to televised tennis.
Je me souviens de ce jour. J effectuais mon service militaire à Auch dans le sud de la France et à la caserne on s était glissé en fraude dans la salle de TV.Un Sergent nous avait surpris et empêché de voir la fin du match,la vache..
While seeing it, I just realized that this match is farther away from us in time than the end of world war 2 was to this match. Now I'll get back to finish watching this.
Scary isn't it? John Lennon died that year and yet the world only knew him for 16 or 17 years, now 40, nearly 41 years have passed. Good comment on the phenomenon of time.
I was 14 when I witnessed this. the 22min that I saw that day still remains THE MOST COMPELLING, SUSPENFUL, EDGE OF MY SEAT MOMENTS I've ever experienced watching sports my whole life.
Totally. My mother , who was hardly a sports fan, decided to watch the match with me for a few minutes as she put it...and didn't get up from her chair or remove her eyes from the TV set till the match was over!
Saw McEnroe playing doubles last week at Wimbledon (against Jamie Murray) and, at 60 years of age, the touch is still there and he is moving like a man half his age.
@@gigyoung7181 Not many age as well as he has though. Ivanisevic, for eg, was also playing in those exhibitions - is over a decade younger and still an active coach - but was noticeably slower and less flexible than McEnroe.
I was 14 when I saw this match. I've been watching sports for 50yrs. And that 22min was by far the most bone-chilling, gut-wrenching, nail-biting period I have ever experienced in my life
I remember my whole family watching on the edge of our seats. When Borg lost the 4th set I went to the bathroom and started Praying for Borg as we wanted him to win his 5th Wimbledon in a row. He was so cool and calm in that 5th set. When he hit the winning shot we were exhausted from the pressure as if we had played. Lol. What a moment. 😍
I don't think he invented the roof. That was Dan Maskell wasn't it? He knew what he was saying and, yes, he was referring to the roof that did exist at the time, covering the spectators.
This is still the greatest match I ever saw. Borg lost this tiebreaker, but he won the match to give him his 5 th straight Wimbledon title to go with his 6 French Open titles. 11 slams at 25 yrs of age. He retired at age 26. He could have won so many more slams. The greatest ever to play.
It is astounding how he could be so superior for such a short time. Had he continued, he would have held the record for a lot longer. Simply one of the greatest ever.
@@UmeastudentTV Incorrect. Borg started at age 16 and he could not mentally handle being #2 in the world. His motivation was gone. He was done, and he knew it.
I like millions of others watched this live. The big surprises watching it now: (1) how often Borg followed his serve in. He was regarded at the time as a baseliner. Compare to todays players, he wasn’t. (2) the lack of shouting, grunting and fist-pumping by the players. (3) the crowd 40 years ago looks less formal than today. (4) no instant TV replays.
Agree on everything! And, obviously, how much the new fiberglass, then carbon, rackets have helped the players in delivering at least a passable shot. I started playing in those years, know that feeling well, this video is making me remind it. So few mishits now.
Jeebus this is epic. My old HS tennis coach used to play this, to illustrate mental toughness. The ability not to choke. How many set points did these guys face and pull out of? Amazing.
The Right Hand against the Mancino, the Defender against the Attacker, The Swedish Ice against the American Fire, The Machine against the Genius Madness, The Civilization against the Ghetto. In short: An Epic and Timeless Rivalry.
Seems such a long time ago but still great to watch. I remember Borg playing Ivan Lendl at the French Open. Each of their rallies went for 5 minutes or more at a time. It was exhausting just watching them.
The serve and volley game which was a gem in Wimbledon is now almost extinct , atleast among top players these days. Borg, McEnroe, Boris, Edberg, Sampras, Goran,,,,,
I was 9 years old. I had to 'watch' it from behind the sofa because I was was so stressed out. At that age I thought Borg was supposed to win Wimbledon, I knew nothing else. The deal was done I've been hooked on tennis ever since
While the quality is superb, I’m just imagining what it would be like to watch, say, a Laver match in modern HD, or even 4K. Every time I watch a match from the ‘80s I keep having to remind myself that it still “looked clear” in person; that seeing the match with your own eyes was a totally different experience. Because part of my brain wants to think everything looked fuzzy back then lol
MUFC, is Manchester United football club, who play in England,, soccer it is called in USA football in England,,,Tennis is a 1 to 1 sport to learn , Vic Braden has a good book,,,old school technique,, Today the pros use arm and get away from basics,, No volleying taught all power
Borg was the reason I fell in love with the game and at 16 when I first saw him play and win in 77..I fell in love with him .. to this day for me he is the best .. Rafa comes second ❤️
remember the old style rackets, heavy wood and a much smaller sweet spot. Amazing to get these rallies with old equipment. I challenge any of today's players to generate power and accuracy with the old wooden racquets...
The point that always stuck in my mind was at 8-7, McEnroe serves for the set. Comes up with a huge serve putting everything into it, Borg blasts the return and leaves McEnroe on the deck...then McEnroe gets up and shakes his head, seemingly in disbelief.
Bjorn Borg is one of the greatest tennis player of all time in open era without winning US Open title also In his time Australian open have very less value than than other 3 majors in his time.
Che momenti topici .. davvero un altra era del sport tennistico con questi 2 in particolare che ci hanno fatto fatto SOGNARE. Li ringrazio per averci così tanto divertiti. Ringrazio Dio x aver vissuto questi momenti magici insieme a loro🎉🎉🎉👏👏👏🌟🌟🌟🇮🇹
What a classic match, the best match I've ever seen and certainly the best tie break in history, i was on the edge of my seat watching this match back in 1980, thanks for sharing and reminding me of the good times, very much appreciated.
This is the first match I can ever remember watching I was 7, must have seen Tennis before that as my parents always watched wimbeldon but this was the first that left an impression and I like watching (playing it badly) it to this day.
Borg was my first sporting hero. I was 8 when this happened I still remember his reaction when he won the fifth set. So sad that he retired when only 25. McEnroe was 25 when he won his last grand slam just like Borg. However McEnroe continued to play many years afterwords. I guess Borg had his reasons but it was such a shame. He could have been a top 10 player for many more years.
Bjorn knew he could never maintain that superhuman intensity on and off the court for much longer and he could never ease off or let up so he stopped. His whole life was totally devoted 100% to Tennis so it was "all" or "nothing" Mark. n an infinitely smaller way I won 49 Table Tennis Trophies and " retired" in 1987/88. I was asked to come out of my chosen retirement to secure my work team enough points ( in a lower division to what I was used to ) IN RETURN (TRUE ! ) for getting a generous Redundancy package which would change my life completely. My Boss was in the team. I did not enjoy it and lost, narrowly, to 3 Chinese Students who all told me what a good game I gave them. That was well-meaning but finished me off for I would have, easily, beaten all 3 players when playing regularly so 1989 was the end for me..lol
An interesting dynamic is that even though McEnroe won the rematch the following year, he didn't consider it closure or revenge, and he still thinks about this loss a lot (according to the Fire & Ice documentary). He wanted to win THIS match. The fact he got Bjorn the next year (and at the US Open too) was indicative of how Borg had peaked while Mac was still ascending.
Super Brat was not at the peak for long. He would only win two more Wimbledons after the 1981 victory and did not win any grand slam tournaments after the age of 25 (1984).
McEnroe himself said in the 'rematch' he could feel Borg was not up for it. No-one wants to beat their strongest rival when he or she is 'ill'. Mac wanted another hard fought, tight match. I personally felt Borg knew McEnroe was getting his number on faster courts and Borg just could not be arsed to put in the extra effort and training to keep Mac at bay. Lendl was beginning to challenge Borg on clay too (not that Borg was having too many problems) and so yes, as much as I admired the man.....he threw in the towel.
@@binkyxz3 For some reason his serve lost its edge and seeing as his entire game was based behind his serve, there was little he could do to stop his slow but steady fall down the ratings.
@@eddieingalls534 I am between their ages and followed tennis closely back then. I never bought the narrative that "McEnroe drove Borg into retirement." Borg had turned pro at 15, so he had a ten or eleven year career. By '81, Borg had been at the top for many years. His detractors never acknowledge the weight of having that target on your back. I think he was frustrated he never won the US Open and commented he did not like playing under the lights there. I think he was burned out, tired of living on the road, and had accomplished all he could. McEnroe's decline was likely hastened by his drug use which he only admitted not long ago. He also blamed the shift to composite rackets as negating his advantages.
Maybe because I was younger, easier to thrill but, to me, this was the greatest match of all time. I remember jumping out of my chair numerous times. Federer/Nadal 2008 was fantastic but it did not eclipse this match, at least for me. I was angry at Borg for his early retirement. With Connors "second act" and a rising Lendl, we were deprived of at least 5 years of what would have been a golden era of tennis. McEnroe would probably have stayed motivated and not gone on his "walkabout" in the mid '80's
The federer/nadal match of 2008 was in a different stratosphere to this - I know a lot of the older folk have colossal rose tinted glasses but - call it how it is at least
@@W0lf_91 Wrong. Watched both. Too many points were decided just by the serve in '08. Aces are boring as well as just hitting "through" the court. Point construction builds excitement. I am calling it like it is.
@@carseye1219 Well I thought the 2 shot rallys and the dominance of the serve of volley is boring compared to 08 and the newer classic finals. I guess nostalgia is a big factor especially for the older folk -
It was exciting enough watching it on TV in London, knowing the drama was unfolding just a few tube stops away. Can't imagine what it must have been like to be there in the stands. Says it all when the umpire says "please try to keep quiet during the tie-break games" and a Woman in the crowd can be heard shouting back; "It's SO hard!!" :D
Will all due respect and honor to Federer-Nadal '08, this is still the greatest Wimbledon final of all time, IMHO. I watched both finals live, and the McEnroe-Borg final just seemed to have a little more tension and drama somehow. I think the 4th set tiebreak is what makes the difference between the two matches.
Even the playing styles of Mac and Borg are way more contrasting than Fedal. Modern rackets make the game very one dimensional. They have basically killed volleying. Wooden rackets make the game richer and multi dimensional. That's what makes this a far greater match than Fedal 2008. People have short memories.
The problem with the Fed and Rafa match is that, by 2008, they had slowed and doctored the grass so much, the ball was bouncing unnaturally. On God's own un-doctored grass, no way would Rafa have even gotten to the final, let alone won it. Note that before they really doctored it, he was losing consistently early because of his big, loopy swings which are great for clay but not for un-doctored grass. This change came against really fast courts to entice non-typical tennis fans, as well as to entice baseliners, who some use to skip the grass because they didn't want to make the adjustment. Note that there were no concessions for fast court players. Tennis today is more like a brawl than anything else. Everyone has to grunt at ear piercing volumes. No one even thought of doing that, especially at Wimbledon, now, 99% of the players do it. Soooooooooooooooo annoying!!!! Borg was truly a great player who simply adjusted his game to the surface, and afterwards, went back to his usual style. Remember, Borg retired at 26 with eleven grand slam titles. Also, remember that, he won his Wimbledon titles at ages 19,20,21,22 and 23 respectively and was in the final at 24 the very next year. He may have lost two matches at the French to the one match for Nadal, but in a way, it's still one, as the only person to beat him there was Panatta, in 1973 and again in 1976, when he won the French Open. I guess we'll never know since Borg retired so young, but chances are he would have had double the French titles we won, had he stayed in the game longer, not to mention probably getting over the hump at the US Open as well as finally going down to Australia for that open which they played at a strange time in those days (around Christmas), so many players skipped it.
@@JamesHarris-hl2bm Awesome observation.People have no idea about grass court game. It was never easy to win on clay and grass those days.With wooden racquet,players had to use their skills.Jimmy Connors says racquets play nowadays and not players.Players in 80s and 90s played a mix of baseline and volley.Serve and volley is dead now.
watching this match, make me think of of the decedents were here at that times. It was a good match and a lot of old memories for me...I was 19 years old. Times passed by like like a lightning...
That was the greatest match I've ever seen thanks to the tiebreaker. It is now second behind Nadal win over Federer at the U.S. Open. McEnroe is still my all time favorite. He could be down two sets to love and still plays like he supposed to win. I LOVE THAT!
Becker and the dive instantly made him my favorite. Joke a Vic will be all time best soon. He will have won at least 2 in every tournament and that is my criteria, not to mention he had to face those 2 repeatedly.
When they played this tie-break I was in my 8 year of age. I was fond of John Mcenroe, and I can remember like it was yesterday I was suffering with him. Then we all know how it's been finishef but this nearly 30 minutes of tennis'll remain with me 'til I live. Pure, sensational emotions!
Wonderful match, remember it well. Having just watched Wimbledon 2021, the difference in the speed of the courts is remarkable. Shame that they are so slow now.
The quality of tennis on show here with the old wooden rackets is unbelievable! This is the greatest era in tennis with Borg,Mcenroe and Connors and even though Borg and Connors are considered baseliners they still made regular forays to the net! Noeadays everything is stuck on the baseline which makes the game much less exciting! Those 3 for me are probably the greatest of them all!
i think there are many players,commentators,tennis fans,etc all over the world that would say that nadal,federer,djokovic,murray before his hip injury is the greatest era in tennis in the mens game of all time and people forget that borg retired at the age of 26 and so we really missed out on a lot more tennis from him and what is different is the players i mentioned are still playing ten years beyond the age borg retired and are still winning grand slams.
Big Mac was my idol...I used to play like him ! I was 9 ....that was the tennis glory days , shorts points but very spectacular....Always in my memory ! Regards from France
As Federer said...Borg is the king. I agree 💯. Look at what he did for three years in a row. French Wimbledon double and three US open finals on hard courts, when the disparity in speeds between the French open and Wimbledon was huge and certainly not like today when it's much more homogenized (FO plays much faster and Wimbledon plays slower). I wonder what he could have achieved in today's overall slower conditions with modern racquets and gut poly hybrids. He had everything, big serve, returns, mindset, attack, defend, stamina and didn't miss.
Two immense players, one of which influenced with his two-handed backhand all those who arrived, that is: Borg! Player who from the bottom was unbeatable and was the one who is tennis like Red Lever ... together Federer !! These 3 made tennis what it is today!
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0:01 - McEnroe* 1 - 0 Borg
0:22 - McEnroe 1 - 1 Borg*
0:43 - McEnroe 1 - 2 Borg*
1:26 - McEnroe* 2 - 2 Borg
1:55 - McEnroe* 3 -2 Borg
2:15 - McEnroe 3 - 3 Borg*
3:02 - McEnroe 3 - 4 Borg*
3:36 - McEnroe* 4 - 4 Borg
4:59 - McEnroe* 4 - 5 Borg
5:29 - McEnroe 5 -5 Borg*
6:11 - McEnroe 5 - 6 Borg*
7:10 - McEnroe* 6 - 6 Borg (Championship point saved)
7:59 - McEnroe* 6 - 7 Borg
8:28 - McEnroe 7 - 7 Borg* (Championship point saved)
8:52 - McEnroe 8 - 7 Borg*
9:46 - McEnroe* 8 - 8 Borg (Set point saved)
10:34 - McEnroe* 9 - 8 Borg
10:58 - McEnroe 9 - 9 Borg* (Set point saved)
11:32 - McEnroe 9 - 10 Borg*
12:11 - McEnroe* 10 - 10 Borg (Championship point saved)
13:05 - McEnroe* 10 - 11 Borg
13:43 - McEnroe 11 - 11 Borg* (Championship point saved on net cord)
14:05 - McEnroe 11 - 12 Borg*
15:02 - McEnroe* 12 - 12 Borg (Championship point saved)
16:02 - McEnroe* 13 - 12 Borg
16:24 - McEnroe 13 - 13 Borg* (Set point saved)
16:45 - McEnroe 14 - 13 Borg*
17:22 - McEnroe* 14 - 14 Borg (Set point saved)
18:47 - McEnroe* 15 - 14 Borg
19:13 - McEnroe 15 - 15 Borg* (Set point saved)
19:50 - McEnroe 16 - 15 Borg*
20:23 - McEnroe* 16 - 16 Borg (Set point saved)
21:18 - McEnroe* 17 - 16 Borg
21:42 - McEnroe 18 - 16 Borg*
(* Denotes server)
I don,t understand why set point or championship point
if is championship point is set point as well no?
dannyboyrodas Borg was winnig 2 - 1 sets. If he wins the point it is a match point. McEnroe was losing 2 - 1 sets, so if he wins the point it is a set point and ties the match 2 - 2 sets
@@VenancioPineda thanks my friend, now I understand, by the way Mac won the match no? Is this match the one of the film ??
Borg won
Awesome
I know most people write this but.... 'I miss those days!' So glad I was a born in the 60's.... the 70's and 80's were amazing! Best memories, ever!
Bjorn and Conners turned me into tennis. Later in life I would appreciate MacEnroe - he was more jazz and abstract in his play. Borg was just f#cking beautiful !
I am rather happy to watch Fedal over this when I was in my 20s.
Sorry. But this tennis looks so boring compared to tennis now. Always just serve, running to the net, point. Maximum 5 seconds
@@pvpknightsde1052 Not always, there are plenty of baseline rallys too. These players had much bigger characters too. The players today are great, but back then, they were that little bit bigger.
@@Nigol66 „plenty“ ??
Borg is undoubtledly one of the greatest of all times
He was an absolute god on the court. McEnroe had the heart of a lion though. Amazing serve amd volley game.
I don’t know man watching this video. These guys kind of suck lol modern day players would crush these dudes.
In this list too: Pete Sampras and Roger Federer
hahaha this amaters!!! bjorg and joe never win one game vs djokovic it was be 6 0 6 0 6 0
Borg vs McEnroe remains my all time favorite tennis matchup after all these years
Two geniuses that marked a new era in tennis. Many under appreciated the serve and volley game that Borg could do if he felt was needed. Amazing that Borg’s mind didn’t go off after losing this tiebreak. Any other player most likely would have lost the 5th set, but Borg won the match with his experience and “outside calm” Iceborg! Anyway, how much I miss those times!
As a junior Borg was bad tempered on court. He was once suspended for six months in his club. After that suspension he kept his feelings inside of him. And even so much that the got the nick name Ice Borg.
@@Musetteloverwhat’s funny was that Borg said in a documentary about the match that he was “pissed” after the fourth set. You’d never have known.
Classy, understated commentating, unbroken tennis camera-work - not three replays per shot breaking the flow. And an audience that don't scream "Come on Bjorn! Come on John!" immediately before every serve. Great coverage, great watching.
Come on, the almost complete lack of replays is annoying. Especially since most points are so short, there is little actual tennis to watch.
There were a few points that would have been nice to see a replay. But now they would do 2 or 3 for every point. That 20 minutes would have been 45 minutes.
Why would they replay a point when there were barely any rally points?
Yes agree. I get sick of the “come on Tim” type of cries.
@@kevinstoneham1245 21:38
I KNOW THE QUALITY OF FEDERER, NADAL AND DJOKOVIC WITH 20 GRAND SLAMS EACH IS UNBELIEVABLE BUT THIS ERA OF CONNORS, MCENROE AND BORG FOR ME IS THE GREATEST EVER!
Absolutely agree!!!
I totally agree as well!
Personal opinion, but one thing is objective...Borg is the father of modern tennis..! P.S. He retired at the age of 26 with 11 grand slam titles, and no one knows how many more he would have won if he had continued until he was at least 30...!
And he never played aus open
as a boy in the 1960s our family had a tennis racket stringing vise and strung rackets for the area players. I learned to love it. I watched everything in the 1970s and 80s.. Love it. However I don't share your feelings on this was the greatest ever. Those days the players could party the night before and then play. These days, they are athletes, better training, better nutrition. They would crush borg or mcenroe.
Bjorn Borg was the epitome of cool. His play, his style, his look just a total original. Nothing like him before or since. I miss him.
1st rockstar tennis God
@@user-jv9qz2bu1r the only guy who became bigger than the game in any sport.
Seems like yesterday I watched this in the TV department at the Jordan Marsh store in Rhode Island where I worked at the time. There were about 15 people there ALL watching the tie-break. Tennis was HUGE then... AMAZING.
These are the best 22 minutes in tennis history. Just pure drama, It looks like a scene from a movie.
Real tennis fans know that both of these players were to be admired. Borg was easy to love, and I always did. Mac, he grew on us. Especially as the years have gone by and he's matured as an ace analyst/commentator/ambassador of the game.
very well stated....
Very true. I enjoyed the contrasting temperaments. The psychological aspect and attitudes were great. It added a whole other element. Sure Mac was unsportsmanlike and as people would say- 'a spoiled brat', but that made it all the more interesting imo. Had every player's demeanor been that of Borg's or Pete Sampras, it wouldn't have been as exciting- for me anyway.
I wasn't necessarily a McEnroe fan at the time, (I was 12) but I could see he was a great player, and I tried to imitate his unique style on the court, especially his serve. Fun !
Hitting so hard with wooden racquets.
I remember this day. I had just started my career as a junior tax accountant, and I remember waking up in my studio apt in downtown Chicago one Sunday AM in June, 1980 and turning on my little 7" TV and discovering this Wimbledon final - I never had watched it before, didn't even know it was on. I had accidentally stumbled on the greatest match in the history of the sport as my introduction to televised tennis.
It was the 2nd year it was televised lived in the USA.
@MUFC it's called football, mate
Je me souviens de ce jour. J effectuais mon service militaire à Auch dans le sud de la France et à la caserne on s était glissé en fraude dans la salle de TV.Un Sergent nous avait surpris et empêché de voir la fin du match,la vache..
i was 15 watching in aurora
Mcenroe vs Borg - their rivalry breakdown
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While seeing it, I just realized that this match is farther away from us in time than the end of world war 2 was to this match. Now I'll get back to finish watching this.
son of a gun it's also closer to the jfk assassination...
One of the dumbest comments ever on RUclips
@@flelite3994 Oh no, there’s way dumber comments than that!
Scary isn't it? John Lennon died that year and yet the world only knew him for 16 or 17 years, now 40, nearly 41 years have passed. Good comment on the phenomenon of time.
Mcenroe vs Borg - their rivalry breakdown
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I am 60 years now. But even now I am impressed with the stress management skills of Borg.
I was 14 when I witnessed this. the 22min that I saw that day still remains THE MOST COMPELLING, SUSPENFUL, EDGE OF MY SEAT MOMENTS I've ever experienced watching sports my whole life.
Totally. My mother , who was hardly a sports fan, decided to watch the match with me for a few minutes as she put it...and didn't get up from her chair or remove her eyes from the TV set till the match was over!
Me too I was 14. No one will ever equal or beat this tie-break. Never.
Me too. I grew up in Belgium and tennis was all that on TV the whole two weeks.
I remember I could not sit down the whole tiebreak, wanted McEnroe to win.
Look
It was riveting then, it still is. These guys were Titans on the court
What made this so tense was also that Borg was chasing history, he was trying to get his 5th consecutive Wimbledon.
Saw McEnroe playing doubles last week at Wimbledon (against Jamie Murray) and, at 60 years of age, the touch is still there and he is moving like a man half his age.
he was a pro athlete after all .
@@gigyoung7181 Not many age as well as he has though. Ivanisevic, for eg, was also playing in those exhibitions - is over a decade younger and still an active coach - but was noticeably slower and less flexible than McEnroe.
@@Missfrankiecat simple backpain - Ivanisevic, wildcard Wimbledon tournament champ.
The touch. No player in my memory had the touch. The racket was part of his anatomy.
I still have my wooden racket from that time. I remember watching this on my black & white TV when it happened. I was mesmerized.
My respect to Bjorn Borg for his composure and calmness.
Indiasexygirl
Like federer
nobody ever called bjorn borg... ___hole.
He was thinking of having a beer 🍺
Hoy sería número 1 indiscutible......!!!!
I remember being at a party late night in Oz when this was on and the whole party stopped to watch. Totally enthralling.
even my mother wasn't able to move and leave before the end ^^^^
I was 14 when I saw this match. I've been watching sports for 50yrs. And that 22min was by far the most bone-chilling, gut-wrenching, nail-biting period I have ever experienced in my life
I remember my whole family watching on the edge of our seats. When Borg lost the 4th set I went to the bathroom and started Praying for Borg as we wanted him to win his 5th Wimbledon in a row. He was so cool and calm in that 5th set. When he hit the winning shot we were exhausted from the pressure as if we had played. Lol. What a moment. 😍
God heard yr prayers
i met björn borg at his party 5 years ago since my coach is close friends with him, really cool guy and we spoke about his prime time .
Is it true that he is living on a welfare programme? Lot of talk in that direction....was a fan of Borg and still a fan of B B
@@koolbean2034 not true hes makin money of other ventures like clothing etc, his tennis career was short but he lives off his name
@@b0zay I remember some time after retiring he lost all his money in a clothing venture ?
Everything was another level. The audience, the players style even the racket!
Much better than nowadays...
The most beautiful, elegant and amazing Tennis era...❤
I watched this at 10 years old I fell in love with tennis..
I remember this day as if it happened yesterday. In that era, tenis was broadcasted by TV in México. IT was amazing to see these increíble players .
Gosh I remember I was watching this match when I was 13. Some great tennis back then! I was glued to the tv set.
Now I’m 56 just like that. Time truly slips away. Willie was right on it! Lol
One of the best and mightiest games of Tennis ever to be played
Sorry. But this tennis looks so boring compared to tennis now. Always just serve, running to the net, point. Maximum 5 seconds
I still love watching this. Borg is still my favourite 💚💜😍🎾
One thing that`s often forgotten about Bjorn Borg is that he was physically an immensely strong man.
hawt
No I disagree.
I think that Börg (and Steffi Graf too) was not only a great tennis player but a fantastic athlete too!
Exactly, He had the endurance therefore 5th set like Djokovich was easy cake to take : )
Yes. He once beat up a small puppy.
For what century? He’s kind of a pigeon chested fellow here. Very 70s.
One of the best memorable moment in sport history....
Borg all icy-clam. McEnroe showing so much emotion. What a contrast. But both absolutely brilliant.
At 11-12 the commentator says that the 'roof will blow off the centre court' - and that was about 30 years before it ever got fitted.
He meant the roof that covers spectators, not the roof that was fitted later to cover the playing surface.
I don't think he invented the roof. That was Dan Maskell wasn't it? He knew what he was saying and, yes, he was referring to the roof that did exist at the time, covering the spectators.
It's also an expression, not literally haha
@@andyd6338 Exactly!
This is still the greatest match I ever saw. Borg lost this tiebreaker, but he won the match to give him his 5 th straight Wimbledon title to go with his 6 French Open titles. 11 slams at 25 yrs of age. He retired at age 26. He could have won so many more slams. The greatest ever to play.
H was just 25 years old? My goodness I always thought he looked like a 40+ year old at the time, & this video confirms it. What a great player!
It is astounding how he could be so superior for such a short time. Had he continued, he would have held the record for a lot longer. Simply one of the greatest ever.
@@UmeastudentTV Incorrect. Borg started at age 16 and he could not mentally handle being #2 in the world. His motivation was gone. He was done, and he knew it.
He is one of the two greatest...Roger is not bad either !
Other spectacular matches I remember were Connors vs Pecci (who won, then never heard of him again) and of course Borg vs Tanner ...
I like millions of others watched this live. The big surprises watching it now: (1) how often Borg followed his serve in. He was regarded at the time as a baseliner. Compare to todays players, he wasn’t. (2) the lack of shouting, grunting and fist-pumping by the players. (3) the crowd 40 years ago looks less formal than today. (4) no instant TV replays.
Players weren't constantly toweling off, or having a water break, or even sitting down after every point.
Agree on everything! And, obviously, how much the new fiberglass, then carbon, rackets have helped the players in delivering at least a passable shot. I started playing in those years, know that feeling well, this video is making me remind it. So few mishits now.
The superbly dignified commentary. Love it so much.
Jeebus this is epic. My old HS tennis coach used to play this, to illustrate mental toughness. The ability not to choke. How many set points did these guys face and pull out of? Amazing.
The Right Hand against the Mancino, the Defender against the Attacker,
The Swedish Ice against the American Fire,
The Machine against the Genius Madness,
The Civilization against the Ghetto.
In short: An Epic and Timeless Rivalry.
Seems such a long time ago but still great to watch. I remember Borg playing Ivan Lendl at the French Open. Each of their rallies went for 5 minutes or more at a time. It was exhausting just watching them.
Borg beat McEnroe at his own game, doing serve and volley regularly. What a monster!
Fantastic tennis, even by today’s standards. No faffing about, no line call arguments, no gamesmanship. Just pure skillful, nail biting tennis.
Lol serve an run to the net for at best a two shot “rally”
I don't know. There's a lot of muffed volleys on both sides. Too many by today's standards.
@@Mallorquin-PB those racquets were not easy to use
Sorry. But this tennis looks so boring compared to tennis now. Always just serve, running to the net, point. Maximum 5 seconds
@@doubts ?😂
I remember the commentator saying the tennis at its highest level...this was true in fact,what an amazing match between those two tennis legends..
The winner at 9:04, awesome!!
They use to play this every time it rained at Wimbledon. Which was a lot. Love it
Thanks. In 2019 FEDERER is still playing with passion and great pleasure !!!! A match with him is always unforgettable !!!!!
The serve and volley game which was a gem in Wimbledon is now almost extinct , atleast among top players these days.
Borg, McEnroe, Boris, Edberg, Sampras, Goran,,,,,
I agree..the best ball machine wins now. It’s boring. Can’t watch.
@@christopherlangdon2892 Serve and Volley is boring as hell
A Tie-Break like this will never be equalled or beaten. Never more.
I was 9 years old. I had to 'watch' it from behind the sofa because I was was so stressed out. At that age I thought Borg was supposed to win Wimbledon, I knew nothing else. The deal was done I've been hooked on tennis ever since
It is amazing because their styles of play are so different.
While the quality is superb, I’m just imagining what it would be like to watch, say, a Laver match in modern HD, or even 4K. Every time I watch a match from the ‘80s I keep having to remind myself that it still “looked clear” in person; that seeing the match with your own eyes was a totally different experience.
Because part of my brain wants to think everything looked fuzzy back then lol
MUFC Please explain what the hell this is?
@MUFC who cares.
MUFC, is Manchester United football club, who play in England,, soccer it is called in USA football in England,,,Tennis is a 1 to 1 sport to learn , Vic Braden has a good book,,,old school technique,, Today the pros use arm and get away from basics,, No volleying taught all power
Borg was the reason I fell in love with the game and at 16 when I first saw him play and win in 77..I fell in love with him .. to this day for me he is the best .. Rafa comes second ❤️
En esos tiempos había sies o siete jugador de primera linea hoy hay tres Rafa nole y roger los otros acompañan
remember the old style rackets, heavy wood and a much smaller sweet spot. Amazing to get these rallies with old equipment. I challenge any of today's players to generate power and accuracy with the old wooden racquets...
Peter Saunders they probs could if they grew up with it
the new rackets came in the mid 80s, so I doubt that covers today's pros. There are special fun tournaments with wooden rackets :)
Peter Saunders I think you’d get terrible tennis elbow from there old Racquets !lol
Peter Saunders What rallies?
John M. told us all on National TV during the US open that he misses Bjorn B. and wishes he would return to playing tennis.
The point that always stuck in my mind was at 8-7, McEnroe serves for the set. Comes up with a huge serve putting everything into it, Borg blasts the return and leaves McEnroe on the deck...then McEnroe gets up and shakes his head, seemingly in disbelief.
Borg was and still is my all time favourite...he was just super cool !!!
Borg was the classiest man tennis player ever. And also the best.
@@Dionysos640 - Please do not waste my time!..
Bjorn Borg is one of the greatest tennis player of all time in open era without winning US Open title also
In his time Australian open have very less value than than other 3 majors in his time.
I wasn't even alive when this match happened - would have been awesome to see this live with such greats of the game
greenkitty82
T'was a great game, Kitty. Unforgettable.
A great set followed by one of the most epic tiebreaks in history
Bjorn Borg was my favorite tennis player. I'm not a big tennis fan but there are a few I've watched over the years.
Che momenti topici .. davvero un altra era del sport tennistico con questi 2 in particolare che ci hanno fatto fatto SOGNARE. Li ringrazio per averci così tanto divertiti.
Ringrazio Dio x aver vissuto questi momenti magici insieme a loro🎉🎉🎉👏👏👏🌟🌟🌟🇮🇹
What a fight. Terrific performance from both of them. To see John as calm as to not waste a racket in a tie break like this - priceless
Laver. McEnroe. Federer. With the enigma Lecomte...
What a classic match, the best match I've ever seen and certainly the best tie break in history, i was on the edge of my seat watching this match back in 1980, thanks for sharing and reminding me of the good times, very much appreciated.
Sorry. But this tennis looks so boring compared to tennis now. Always just serve, running to the net, point. Maximum 5 seconds
These were the great years of tennis championship rivalry. Everyone anticipated and watched riveted to these two tennis gladiators.
I was born in the mid 90s but I feel like I would've enjoyed this old school display of tennis
12 years old and i loved John because of his extraordinary Ball feeling.
As a „lefthandy“ i liked to practice his serve and halfvolley.
Watch McEnroe's first 2 strides after his serve. Quickest to the net I've seen.
Borg looks relatively calm, McEnroe looks like he's being tortured.
That’s how both of them were.
McEnroe always looks like that. He's the kind of person everyone would like to punch in the face.
Borg is the ice man
Fire vs Ice.
borg was ALWAYS calm
watching this while watching the Federer/Nadal doubles at the Laver cup 2022 with these two as coaches. Legendary
This is the first match I can ever remember watching I was 7, must have seen Tennis before that as my parents always watched wimbeldon but this was the first that left an impression and I like watching (playing it badly) it to this day.
Borg was my first sporting hero. I was 8 when this happened I still remember his reaction when he won the fifth set. So sad that he retired when only 25. McEnroe was 25 when he won his last grand slam just like Borg. However McEnroe continued to play many years afterwords. I guess Borg had his reasons but it was such a shame. He could have been a top 10 player for many more years.
Bjorn knew he could never maintain that superhuman intensity on and off the court for much longer and he could never ease off or let up so he stopped.
His whole life was totally devoted 100% to Tennis so it was "all" or "nothing" Mark. n an infinitely smaller way I won 49 Table Tennis Trophies and " retired" in 1987/88. I was asked to come out of my chosen retirement to secure my work team enough points ( in a lower division to what I was used to ) IN RETURN (TRUE ! ) for getting a generous Redundancy package which would change my life completely. My Boss was in the team. I did not enjoy it and lost, narrowly, to 3 Chinese Students who all told me what a good game I gave them. That was well-meaning but finished me off for I would have, easily, beaten all 3 players when playing regularly so 1989 was the end for me..lol
@@Isleofskye none will ever have the longevity of federer
Agreed Dylan.
He could play anywhere, my friend.
Grass,Hard,Clay even Under Milk Wood :)
Mcenroe vs Borg - their rivalry breakdown
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Only top 10 ? :
An interesting dynamic is that even though McEnroe won the rematch the following year, he didn't consider it closure or revenge, and he still thinks about this loss a lot (according to the Fire & Ice documentary). He wanted to win THIS match. The fact he got Bjorn the next year (and at the US Open too) was indicative of how Borg had peaked while Mac was still ascending.
And then Connors beat Mac in 82 at Queens, then Wimbledon, and then Queens again in 83. And he was 7 years older. IOW, Connors is the real champ.
Super Brat was not at the peak for long. He would only win two more Wimbledons after the 1981 victory and did not win any grand slam tournaments after the age of 25 (1984).
McEnroe himself said in the 'rematch' he could feel Borg was not up for it. No-one wants to beat their strongest rival when he or she is 'ill'. Mac wanted another hard fought, tight match.
I personally felt Borg knew McEnroe was getting his number on faster courts and Borg just could not be arsed to put in the extra effort and training to keep Mac at bay. Lendl was beginning to challenge Borg on clay too (not that Borg was having too many problems) and so yes, as much as I admired the man.....he threw in the towel.
@@binkyxz3 For some reason his serve lost its edge and seeing as his entire game was based behind his serve, there was little he could do to stop his slow but steady fall down the ratings.
@@eddieingalls534 I am between their ages and followed tennis closely back then. I never bought the narrative that "McEnroe drove Borg into retirement." Borg had turned pro at 15, so he had a ten or eleven year career. By '81, Borg had been at the top for many years. His detractors never acknowledge the weight of having that target on your back. I think he was frustrated he never won the US Open and commented he did not like playing under the lights there. I think he was burned out, tired of living on the road, and had accomplished all he could.
McEnroe's decline was likely hastened by his drug use which he only admitted not long ago. He also blamed the shift to composite rackets as negating his advantages.
McEnroe still the best attacker to the net after the serve
McEnroe still the best attacker to the net EVER
@@stephanegrandel5392 So true!
What about the way he returned the ball...it looks like his hands are broken...he is playing stick tennis(game)
Will tennis ever be this interesting to watch again ?
The resonant sounds at center court from gut strings and wood racquets is unique only to Wimbledon. I miss those days. It was special.
Maybe because I was younger, easier to thrill but, to me, this was the greatest match of all time. I remember jumping out of my chair numerous times. Federer/Nadal 2008 was fantastic but it did not eclipse this match, at least for me. I was angry at Borg for his early retirement. With Connors "second act" and a rising Lendl, we were deprived of at least 5 years of what would have been a golden era of tennis. McEnroe would probably have stayed motivated and not gone on his "walkabout" in the mid '80's
100% agree. i'm still angry to Borg for his retirement :)
The federer/nadal match of 2008 was in a different stratosphere to this - I know a lot of the older folk have colossal rose tinted glasses but - call it how it is at least
@@W0lf_91 Wrong. Watched both. Too many points were decided just by the serve in '08. Aces are boring as well as just hitting "through" the court. Point construction builds excitement. I am calling it like it is.
@@carseye1219
Well I thought the 2 shot rallys and the dominance of the serve of volley is boring compared to 08 and the newer classic finals. I guess nostalgia is a big factor especially for the older folk -
It was exciting enough watching it on TV in London, knowing the drama was unfolding just a few tube stops away. Can't imagine what it must have been like to be there in the stands. Says it all when the umpire says "please try to keep quiet during the tie-break games" and a Woman in the crowd can be heard shouting back; "It's SO hard!!" :D
Will all due respect and honor to Federer-Nadal '08, this is still the greatest Wimbledon final of all time, IMHO. I watched both finals live, and the McEnroe-Borg final just seemed to have a little more tension and drama somehow. I think the 4th set tiebreak is what makes the difference between the two matches.
Even the playing styles of Mac and Borg are way more contrasting than Fedal. Modern rackets make the game very one dimensional. They have basically killed volleying. Wooden rackets make the game richer and multi dimensional. That's what makes this a far greater match than Fedal 2008. People have short memories.
The problem with the Fed and Rafa match is that, by 2008, they had slowed and doctored the grass so much, the ball was bouncing unnaturally. On God's own un-doctored grass, no way would Rafa have even gotten to the final, let alone won it. Note that before they really doctored it, he was losing consistently early because of his big, loopy swings which are great for clay but not for un-doctored grass. This change came against really fast courts to entice non-typical tennis fans, as well as to entice baseliners, who some use to skip the grass because they didn't want to make the adjustment. Note that there were no concessions for fast court players. Tennis today is more like a brawl than anything else. Everyone has to grunt at ear piercing volumes. No one even thought of doing that, especially at Wimbledon, now, 99% of the players do it. Soooooooooooooooo annoying!!!! Borg was truly a great player who simply adjusted his game to the surface, and afterwards, went back to his usual style. Remember, Borg retired at 26 with eleven grand slam titles. Also, remember that, he won his Wimbledon titles at ages 19,20,21,22 and 23 respectively and was in the final at 24 the very next year. He may have lost two matches at the French to the one match for Nadal, but in a way, it's still one, as the only person to beat him there was Panatta, in 1973 and again in 1976, when he won the French Open. I guess we'll never know since Borg retired so young, but chances are he would have had double the French titles we won, had he stayed in the game longer, not to mention probably getting over the hump at the US Open as well as finally going down to Australia for that open which they played at a strange time in those days (around Christmas), so many players skipped it.
Agreed!!!!!
@@JamesHarris-hl2bm Awesome observation.People have no idea about grass court game. It was never easy to win on clay and grass those days.With wooden racquet,players had to use their skills.Jimmy Connors says racquets play nowadays and not players.Players in 80s and 90s played a mix of baseline and volley.Serve and volley is dead now.
@@kanankumar1257 It's dead for the most part because of racket technology, which I think has ruined the game.
Exquisite tennis. No long rallies. Focus was sharp.
watching this match, make me think of of the decedents were here at that times. It was a good match and a lot of old memories for me...I was 19 years old. Times passed by like like a lightning...
That was the greatest match I've ever seen thanks to the tiebreaker. It is now second behind Nadal win over Federer at the U.S. Open. McEnroe is still my all time favorite. He could be down two sets to love and still plays like he supposed to win. I LOVE THAT!
Nadal-federar never played in us open🤔
Becker and the dive instantly made him my favorite.
Joke a Vic will be all time best soon. He will have won at least 2 in every tournament and that is my criteria, not to mention he had to face those 2 repeatedly.
@@robjohnson8861 Nova is the supreme tennis player. There is no weakness in his game. Every point won or lost is a contest. He will be the GOAT ..
@@nigellaird8655 who Novak ? if yes u got a lot of sense of humour :)
That forehand at 15-all is the bomb. McEnroe running across the baseline like a gazelle.
When they played this tie-break I was in my 8 year of age. I was fond of John Mcenroe, and I can remember like it was yesterday I was suffering with him. Then we all know how it's been finishef but this nearly 30 minutes of tennis'll remain with me 'til I live. Pure, sensational emotions!
No long rallies with the serve and volley game. Two days ago, Djokovich and his opponent had a 45 shot rally in the 2019 Wimbledon semifinals!
44 years later and it’s still a bloody nightmares
Greatest match I ever watched.
The best game Wimbledon ever.
Wonderful match, remember it well. Having just watched Wimbledon 2021, the difference in the speed of the courts is remarkable. Shame that they are so slow now.
Bjorn Borg, forever my favourite player.
The quality of tennis on show here with the old wooden rackets is unbelievable! This is the greatest era in tennis with Borg,Mcenroe and Connors and even though Borg and Connors are considered baseliners they still made regular forays to the net! Noeadays everything is stuck on the baseline which makes the game much less exciting! Those 3 for me are probably the greatest of them all!
i think there are many players,commentators,tennis fans,etc all over the world that would say that nadal,federer,djokovic,murray before his hip injury is the greatest era in tennis in the mens game of all time and people forget that borg retired at the age of 26 and so we really missed out on a lot more tennis from him and what is different is the players i mentioned are still playing ten years beyond the age borg retired and are still winning grand slams.
This era, Becker-Edberg, Federer-Nadal those define Wimbledons greatest eras for me.
Jimmy Connors once said it best, "This is what they want." And boy did these two deliver!
Big Mac was my idol...I used to play like him ! I was 9 ....that was the tennis glory days , shorts points but very spectacular....Always in my memory ! Regards from France
Did u played with rackets or Revolver? I presume
They're still playing this tie break. This is just Part One.
😄 👀💭
Damn. They must be tired!
@@saturnoh3142 😂🍺🎾
The most beautiful tie-break in history
Le plus grand match de tous les temps ,épique
As Federer said...Borg is the king. I agree 💯. Look at what he did for three years in a row. French Wimbledon double and three US open finals on hard courts, when the disparity in speeds between the French open and Wimbledon was huge and certainly not like today when it's much more homogenized (FO plays much faster and Wimbledon plays slower). I wonder what he could have achieved in today's overall slower conditions with modern racquets and gut poly hybrids. He had everything, big serve, returns, mindset, attack, defend, stamina and didn't miss.
1of the weirdest serve motions ever there from McEnroe lol
He was stretching his back. He had some back issue and they told him he had to find a way to take care of it. So he did it with every serve.
They definitely didn't hit as hard as they do now, especially their serves. I loved Borg. He was amazing
Amazing talent. I wish it were in the correct aspect ratio.
Björn Rune Borg è un bravo ex tennista svedese. Ha 68 anni, è nato a Stoccolma, Svezia
Two immense players, one of which influenced with his two-handed backhand all those who arrived, that is: Borg! Player who from the bottom was unbeatable and was the one who is tennis like Red Lever ... together Federer !! These 3 made tennis what it is today!
No inexorable baseline bashing in my youth. Look at these sublime tennis players! Women’s game was superb too…