Biggest loss in mcenroe career😢😮🏆🇺🇸🇨🇿 Anti never won the french Open, Bentley never want to Wimbledon d,they Zecken change the french Open and Wimbledon trophy each other Change🙏🏆
This match. This match was, without any exaggeration, one of the biggest, epic comebacks in tennis history. Lendl had faced years of being called a "choker," accused of being too scared to win a Grand Slam title, and McEnroe knew that to cement his place in tennis history as a winner of all four majors he had to finally win the French Open. This compilation is great, yet to understand its greatness, it needs to be watched in its entirety. It was a thrilling sporting event. That's why throughout this compilation you hear the excitement of the crowd, and the many "shhhh!!" moments throughout. I watched this match when it first aired on U.S. television, and, as a huge Lendl fan, every point was agony to watch. I wrung my hands, hung my head down and willed myself to look, and spoke out loud, bemoaning Ivan's trials. He was losing to McEnroe on Johnny's worst surface! The hole Lendl had to crawl out of thanks to McEnroe's best game on clay was a HUGE ONE. McEnroe tried to intimidate the umpire a bit, but he KNEW he couldn't have one of his tantrums. He knew he would lose the match if he did. He KNEW that even though Lendl was not French, he WAS European, and the French were mostly on Lendl's side. Most importantly, McEnroe KNEW clay was his worst playing surface, and it would be very unlikely for him to ever reach another French final. So he played amazing clay tennis. Any comeback like Lendl's is amazing, but to do so on clay on a very hot June day is nearly impossible. Lendl later said the heat and intense level of play on the soft "Roland Garros" clay were so weakening that he had to quietly throw up on the sidelines. Lendl finally showed the world he could win and that underneath that tough exterior he had heart and grit. This French Open match did affect both players' careers. It was an exciting, pivotal moment for both. Wow.
Unique and unrepeatable show in the history of world tennis, the elegance, class and effectiveness of John Mc Enroe's shots who expressed the best tennis of all time on clay against the solidity, regularity and baseline shots of Ivan Lendl gave life to the most beautiful final in the history of world tennis, the last example of how beautiful classic tennis could be to see and enjoy at a correct and acceptable ball speed which should always have been the one to make the matches wonderful but then 'revolution and technology have ruined one of the most beautiful individual sports in the world with super-light materials where the only thing that matters is hitting the ball in an exasperated way to wear down the opponent's resistance with endless baseline dribbles and to open up the field to score points and win the exchanges this match can be considered in all respects the conclusion of the classic and genuine tennis of the past which gave shivers to the spectators, after which other techniques of hitting the ball took over which revolutionized the world of tennis, making it mechanical and powerful.
@@lucapanarelli6294 Forse. So solo che questi battono regolarmente a oltre i 200 e tirano a 200. Ce li vedi McEnroe o Connors che si allenano come Nadal o Djokovic? Io no e quindi non ci sarebbe stata partita, anche oggi.
Ain't that the truth !! I used to think that modern or current eras in tennis - particularly the big 3 era - were unequal d in terms of skills & greatness. But not now. I challenge anyone who doesn't believe ; put any of the big three back in , say the 90 , s era - which was particularly strong , put them back up against the best of that period using the SAME equipment and resources - they would not could not reach 20 slams or more each - no way.
@@brunsbruns2377 Alcaraz literally folded the minute someone (Dimitrov) gave him some variety. What do you think would happen if he faced Edberg or McEnroe? He'd be lost.
@@brunsbruns2377The courts are more consistent and standardized now...the higher bounce enables playing from behind the baseline...there was a reason players with two-handed backhands were rarely successful at Wimbledon for instance as the low ball was difficult to deal with and you would need to get down low to play...now the game is waist and shoulder height everywhere...modern players are like machines requiring consistent pace and bounce but they would find it tough to play on inconsistent surfaces where more reflexes oriented technique is required and they would have to change the way the play...
Is Lendl to McEnroe a bigger leap than McEnroe to Borg and Borg to Vilas? Or do you consider Lendl in the same "modern" category like Becker, Agassi, Sampras, and maybe only make a new category for Federer, Nadal, Djokovic? Not arguing, just curious about your perspective, 30 years is a wide range
@@anonymous4711_ In my opinion, Lendl has the characteristics of the modern player, due to his style of play, which is what most resembles how it is played today and also due to his technique, I am not saying that he uses the refined mechanics that players have today thanks to technologies but he laid the foundations of the technique that we know today. We must also consider that with his style of play he achieved great achievements compared to the serve and volley style of those years.
@@anonymous4711_He was definitely a guy who pushed the tennis little bit further. Just look at his groundstrokes: topspin from both sides, forehand using wrist and compare to flat strokes of McEnroe typical for the era before. Lendl was also one of the first players to take care of physical condition including diet and took the training and preparation to the more professional level as we know it now.
Lendl was the reason I abandoned watching and playing tennis. This guy made me sleep in each time when he met another "prototype". They killed the artists, luckily, without being rotten out, and some start to emerge again. Players like Lendl hold a hammer in their hand, while players like McEnroe hold a drumstick. Workers against Musicians..
People miss the equipment factor. This is graphite racquet with normal strings and small in size some 80-85 sq inch. Current raquets are much bigger in isize 15-20% bigger and poly strings that add more top spin. Lots of shots played with current raquets can never be played with old raquets. Instead calling players from previous ers as inferior,people should ask how current players can play with these old raquets and still be able to play those top spin and win consistently. Those raquets used by John and Lendl require pure skill to opeate. Birg used much heavier wooden raquets to win 6 FO.
Don't miss the training factor through their entire youth. Players today train much more explosiveness, feeding themselves with creatine and alike, when they train aerobic, they wear an oxygen limiting mask, when they workout, the block the blood flow in the upper arms. They gain more power and endurance with less training. HITT did not exist when McEnroe played. Their body has changed. Recovery has improved too, they take an ice bath after a game, to restrict blood vessels and recover faster from accumulated lactate and inflammation in the tissues. They can play at a high level alost a decade longer.
I just watched this now and remember a couple of the crucial moments in this match back from watching this in 1984, 12 years old. I remember wanting Lendl to win, and he did in the end. I was so happy for Ivan!
To this day, the greatest display of offensive tennis (serve&volley, to be more specific) on a clay court, in tennis history. It doesn't even matter he lost that match in the end, the tennis he played for the entire match, especially in the first two sets, is simply legendary
I am but a tennis amateur, but I am always surprised that the Serve/Volley tactic works so well in the pros. (Keeping in mind that the receiver is ALSO a pro, so you would think they would have perfected both lobs and passing shots to counter it). Even on a very good serve.
I remember this match, I am a McEnroe fan, I was fascinated by his serve and volley tennis, which was pure poetry; no man dare to play like him at Roland Garros like it was at Wimbledon, and, each time I see this final, I can't understand how he could play so divinely, and I can't accept he lost. Anyway, match like this and player like them, made kids like us to love tennis and making a tennis court in our church car park, and spend hours in playing that amazing sport, where it's not finished until it's finished.
It was a Great Match in RG in 1984. I learned an important Lesson from the Champion Ivan Lendl. Never lose a grip and confidence till last second in a fight. Victory will be Yours if you stay on challenge and regain your energy. That sportsmanship we saw even in Roger, Nadal and Djokovic. All these are Warriors
Ty. Two of the all time greats. I never saw this one. Happy Lendl got his 1st. McEnroe fabulous serve/volleyer; Ivan super ground strokes. Opposite personalities!👏🎾
Je n’ai jamais vu un joueur faire le jeux service /volée pendant un match sur terre battue comme John mc Enroe. Aucun autre joueur avant ou après lui n’a pratiqué un tel tennis offensif et peu importe qu’il ait perdu cette finale, il reste un génie inégalé et probablement le plus grand tennisman de tous les temps. Cela dit, Ivan Lendl restera un monument du tennis.
Nice to see the players just turn away after the point without the continual fist pumping, especially when the opponent has hit it into the net. Classier times.
People who don't know much of.the history of tennis are quick to say roger is the most talented player ever. No sorry Johnny Mac is by far the most talented player to ever pick up a racket.
@@tennisfan599McEnroe was an unorthodox genius, no question, but Laver is certainly in the equation for the most complete player to have played the game.
McEnroe won 5 majors before 1984 and won His 2 at Wimbledon and New York that same year. 40 years already. Time flies. Lendl finally wins his 1 of 8 majors here, after losing major finals starting at the French Open in a 1981 5 set final against Bjorn Borg, the last major Borg ever won. In many ways Lendl picked up where Borg left off in retirement. A great baseliner who could pick apart wonderful serve volley players in huge moments.
I cannot recall this game but the 3rd set is the beginning of the end. Crucial moment is the net ball of McEnroe at 40-30 and 3-3 in the final set. If he would have made that crucial passing ball, he would have won the match I think. He remains my favorite of all times, even being enfant terrible but his subtle technique and style, let alone his service are special and unmatched.
This was a very high quality match. Both these guys were at the top of their forms in '84. This has been sighted before by others (incl Mc himself), but the critical point was in the 7th game of the 5th when McEnroe netted that down the line forehand. That was THE turning point imo. Both guys continued to play well, but Lendl's performance, which he had already cranked up considerably, was on fire after that. Thanks for posting !
The story it tells is that in his era, there was a historical amount of great and legendary players which made it tough for anyone to even sniff 10 majors. While I believe that Djokovic is the greatest player of all time…he, Fed and Nadal were the only show in town for two decades. None of them would have won half the Slams they did if they played in the 70s and 80s…
@@guslevy3506 i completely disagree. Big 3 would have won double digit slams in 70's & in 80's also. Of course they wouldn't be playing that long as they are playing now but still they would win a lot.
@@rajusaha855 I grew up watching during that era and no data will prove to my own eyes that the quality of players was much deeper and better back then…the fact that a guy like Nadal who is literally a one-dimensional player could win as much as he has is a testament to that. Give that guy a standard size racket and he would have been an NPC during the 70s and 80s when players were forced to be all around players due to the rackets and strings…
@@guslevy3506 Nadal is one dimensional 😂😂. I never heard that before. You have to admit the truth that the big 3 are class of their own. You can't win 20 slams with one dimensional game. Lendl is great but he was or (everybody) is step below big 3. Big 3 able to maximize in all three categories needed to be the GOAT i.e talent, longevity & consistency with versatility which past legend never did. Players like Borg, Mcenroe, Connors, Lendl, Sampras & Agassi didn't have excelled in all three categories. Of course I didn't count Laver, Rosewall & Gonzales as they were played majority of their tennis in pre open era with different tour structure.
At this time, there was a great diversity of games. Some players were baseliners, other played volley (Edberg). Some played with touch (McEnroe or Messi), others with power (Lendl). Some played 2-handed-backhands (Connors), others one-handed (Vilas). Some were more aggressive, others more patient (Borg). Today, all players seem to have the same kind of game, based only on baseline power with 2-handed backhands.
Blah, Blah, Blah. I am sure there were folks like you watching this in 1984 saying 1944 was the heyday and how Mac and Lendl couldn't win if they had to use the same racquets as Bobby Riggs and Pancho Gonzalez et al. It is really the laziest type of thinking to compare eras and that is why it is the most prevalent type of comment. Do better than the masses if you can.
I'm from city where Lendl was born and played as junior. His childhood was similar to chess players Polgars sisters. Only tennis. I will be number one. Trained hard and after ten years of such hard training he took big dividends.
Dans ce match, John Mc Enroe a montré tout le répertoire de ses meilleurs tirs avec un sentiment d'anticipation et une élégance unique en les amenant à prendre le filet ou à faire des vainqueurs et tant que ses jambes répondaient correctement, il n'y avait pas de match, mais alors quand il se sentait une légère fatigue car son type de jeu sur une surface lente coûte très cher, Lendl est sorti à distance et a compris que la seule façon de ramener ce match avec John Mc Enroe pendant la majeure partie du match injouable était de le ramener au niveau du marathon de tennis et pas au niveau de la classe et de la qualité des tirs en gardant le plus longtemps possible dans le champ tactique le joueur américain qui a finalement payé un prix très élevé et peut-être pas pleinement mérité pour un moment unique et inoubliable final pour la beauté des tirs, l'équilibre et l'intensité du jeu.
What an incredible match. The level got higher and higher as the match progressed. Neither player gave an inch and both were willing to do whatever it takes. The contrast in styles made strategy and tactics very clear for each player, so all they had to worry about was execution. Very entertaining.
I vaguely remember watching this match on television. I was young then and just starting to find interest in tennis. Seeing the highlights today, I can only say, McEnroe had this win on his strings. He let it get away from him. Today's tennis is really different from this.
What a show! The times when hitting the ball at 220 km/h didn't pay off, and serve-and-volley ruled! Not only McEnroe, also Edberg was a master at that.
Serve and Volley in Clay 😀. McEnroe is very skillful to stretch and harass Ivan like that in Clay. Great Match. Great highlights. Credit to Ivan as well - to come so far from behind. He was clutch and steady when he had to stave off those break points. I remember another gem (Agassi v Muster) in QF in the 90s. That was a great game as well. Pls upload the highlights of that as well.
Tennis must come back to wooden rackets to gain back its charisma Lendl-McEnroe is still my ideal rivalry ...the 80s had a unique aura, and they were the symbols of those years. Opposite characters, opposite style of playing ....back when it was almost impossible to win all the year, in different superficies
C'est un de ces rares matchs où celui qui l'a gagné n'est pas vraiment sûr d'être le meilleur sur le terrain. Cela n'arrive que dans des cas très exceptionnels car devant faire une statistique des échanges joués, John Mc Enroe s'en est certainement sorti. de celui-ci, vaincu, il a remporté les meilleurs rallyes joués en faisant preuve d'un tennis exceptionnel sur une surface lente comme la terre battue rouge mais au tennis on sait que très souvent celui qui marque le plus de points gagne, pour sa part Ivan Lendl qui a été le vainqueur du match mis. il montre un tennis solide avec d'excellents passeurs avec des angles très difficiles qui sont sa spécialité et dans quelques cas avec des lobs gagnants vraiment excellents. FINITION FANTASTIQUE ET UNIQUE DANS L'HISTOIRE DU TENNIS POUR LA BEAUTÉ ET L'INTENSITÉ.
C'étaient les 2 seuls joueurs de l'époque du "serve and volley" capables de proposer des rallyes à couper le souffle (chose rare à l'époque). Pour l'anecdote j'ai regardé ce match cette année là sur une télé noir et blanc 🥹 et j'étais fan de Lendl 😊
Lendl started to play deeper shots in the third set therefore McEnroe couldnt volley so easy anymore and that turned the game.Though Lendl had a continental grip that made his one handed left shot weaker than nowadays, players now should noticed the way he bent down and the steadiness it gives.I still cant understand how Mcenroe could play that unorthodox style it was so agressive like a table tennis player. An epic match in History of tennis.
Beating the great J Mac at his peak made victory even sweeter for Ivan. Mac is a fan of Ivan's to this day and brings him up in conversation as an all-time great. Mac says, "Ivan made it to 8 straight US Open finals. When's the next time anyone's gonna do that?"
@@davidr2802 So what, winning 3 US Opens is huge. It's the top tournament to many players. Plus, Ivan's record in 8 years outside the finals was 48-0 ... in the US Open!! You try it.
Die verlorenen Endspiele 1982/1983 gegen Connors und 1984 gegen McEnroe waren auch von großer Unfairness geprägt! Nicht von den Spielern aber von der grölenden Menge die Lendl ständig ausgepfiffen haben!
En fait , il utilise une raquette très peu tendue, et prend la balle tôt, et se doit de jouer relacher. Je pense que d'autres joueurs pourraient s'inspirer de lui, mais pour des raisons inconnues, personne ne cherche à s'en inspirer. Ca vient aussi de l'école de tennis, très académique. Je pense que sa facon de jouer serait encore efficace aujourd'"hui. Ce qui est fou d'ailleurs c'est que personne n'essaye de s'inspirer de sa facon de servir. Pour l’anecdote, je m'étais mis au badminton, venant du tennis...je jouais au départ comme je joue au tennis, me prenant des roustes en permanence contre mon partenaire de jeu...Jusqu'au jour ou je me dis que je vais jouer au badminton, en mode mc enroe...reduction de la préparation des coups, me précipitant sur le volant etc...Résultat, dés la première fois, j'ai battu mon partenaire !
J'ai vu ce match un dimanche en famille, et tout le monde détestait Lendl. Moi j'étais adolescent , mon coup droit était celui de Lendl, mon revers celui de McEnroe, et mon service de Noah. Je voulais absolument que le vilain Mozart du tennis perde, moi. Que le grincheux, le caractériel doué, se prenne une raclée face au soi disant robot sans coeur qu'était Lendl. Je défendais Lendl comme Tim Burton défend le Pingouin. Le mal aimé hué par la foule. Je me souviens bien de ce repas de famille bourgeois où tout le monde applaudissait le sale gosse américain. Et c'est vrai qu'il a dominé le match de son talent extraordinaire fait de coups de pattes de chat. Et puis, tout doucement, mon héros des pays de l'Est à tronche de vampire anorexique s'est mis à remonter la pente et puis, progressivement, à renverser le match. Quel pied, sa balle de match concrétisée, enfin cette victoire à Roland Garros tant espérée! Merci pour ce résumé plein de souvenirs proustiens émouvants, à l'échelle de l'humble 15/1 que je fus au sommet de ma gloire. Aujourd'hui, en revoyant ce match, le talent des deux joueurs saute aux yeux. Le génie, la frustration, la volonté, les oppositions de genre, tous les éléments étaient réunis pour un match de légende. Comme le tennis nous a tant offert à travers les époques (Wimbledon victoire de Nadal face à Federer) et encore aujourd'hui (AO Sinner / Medvedev).
I was a huge Lendl fan and wore his Adidas shirts when I played tennis growing up. They should bring back some of the iconic ones like the argyle shirts he wore in this match. Having said that, the shirts I really wish they could bring back are Mad Mac’s equally iconic Sergio Tacchini shirts that he also wore in this match…so retro cool…
McEnroe for sure one of the best hand-eye coordination of all time. I was a big fan, so were almost all my peers that picket up tennis around 1980. He showed us that tennis is creative, beautiful and emotional. And, of course, he cursed and threw raquets even more than we already did. Our moms hated his demeanor, our dads still turned on the tv when he played. I guess everyone has to find a valve for their emotions. Today i think, his behavior lost him some matches and was very disrespectful many times. But still like to watch his matches. Good old days. I grew up with him, as a teenage fan. And even played the dunlop 200g, which was way to heavy for a small junior, of course.
The mid-80s were the last years that serve and volley was a winning strategy. With new racket technology and power hitting, only baseline players can succeed.
This is real tennis. Serve & volley, attacking the net, passing shots, aggressive play… not the boring 9,000-shot rallies with both players behind the baseline droning on forever.
It's amazing that even on the slow clay of Paris that Mac was always looking for the opportunity to come in and volley. He came so close that day to winning but it was always going to be difficult to beat Lendl, a man who was brought up on European clay. A few weeks later Mac absolutely destroyed Jimmy Connors in the Wimbledon final, probably one of the shortest, most one sided men's finals in Wimbledon history.
Spettacolo unico ed irripetibile per la storia del tennis mondiale l'eleganza la classe e l'efficacia dei colpi di John Mc Enroe che ha espresso il miglior tennis di tutti i tempi sulla terra battuta contro la solidità la regolarità e le sbracciate da fondo campo di Ivan Lendl hanno dato vita alla più bella finale della storia del tennis mondiale ultimo esempio di come poteva essere bello da vedere e da gustare il tennis classico ad una velocità di palla giusta ed accettabile che avrebbe dovuto essere sempre quella per rendere le partite meravigliose ma poi' la rivoluzione e la tecnologia hanno rovinato uno degli sport individuali più belli del mondo con materiali superleggeri dove conta solo picchiare la palla in modo esasperato per fiaccare la resistenza del avversario con palleggi da fondo interminabili ed aprirsi il campo per fare i punti e vincere gli scambi questa partita puo' considerarsi a tutti gli effetti la conclusione del tennis classico e genuino di una volta che faceva venire i brividi agli spettatori dopo di che sono subentrate altre tecniche di colpire la palla che hanno stravolto il mondo del tennis rendendolo meccanico e potente.
beh questo e' abbastanza soggettivo, io capisco che puo piacere un tennis giocato cosi perchè agli inizi era cosi, ma sinceramente io preferisco quello di adesso, il modo piu efficace per fare punto è quello di tirare piu forte possibile è per questo che il tennis oggi sia tutto cosi, ma comunque per me la bellezza di questo sport è sempre la stessa, sia con uno stile di gioco piu lento e tattico che uno di potenza.
Still riveting to watch after 40 years. You can feel the tide changes to Lendl's favorite 👏🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Definitely something special about sports back in the 70’s and 80’s . A purity about it and passion that just isn’t there anymore. I’m glad I saw it.
Главное нет этих психов от теннисистов и разговоров со своим боксом!
Does anyone serve and volley anymore? McEnroe came in on 90% of his serves. Gorgeous volleys; and Ivan’s one handed BH was a thing of beauty.🎾
Biggest loss in mcenroe career😢😮🏆🇺🇸🇨🇿 Anti never won the french Open, Bentley never want to Wimbledon d,they Zecken change the french Open and Wimbledon trophy each other Change🙏🏆
This match. This match was, without any exaggeration, one of the biggest, epic comebacks in tennis history. Lendl had faced years of being called a "choker," accused of being too scared to win a Grand Slam title, and McEnroe knew that to cement his place in tennis history as a winner of all four majors he had to finally win the French Open.
This compilation is great, yet to understand its greatness, it needs to be watched in its entirety. It was a thrilling sporting event. That's why throughout this compilation you hear the excitement of the crowd, and the many "shhhh!!" moments throughout.
I watched this match when it first aired on U.S. television, and, as a huge Lendl fan, every point was agony to watch. I wrung my hands, hung my head down and willed myself to look, and spoke out loud, bemoaning Ivan's trials. He was losing to McEnroe on Johnny's worst surface! The hole Lendl had to crawl out of thanks to McEnroe's best game on clay was a HUGE ONE.
McEnroe tried to intimidate the umpire a bit, but he KNEW he couldn't have one of his tantrums. He knew he would lose the match if he did. He KNEW that even though Lendl was not French, he WAS European, and the French were mostly on Lendl's side. Most importantly, McEnroe KNEW clay was his worst playing surface, and it would be very unlikely for him to ever reach another French final. So he played amazing clay tennis.
Any comeback like Lendl's is amazing, but to do so on clay on a very hot June day is nearly impossible.
Lendl later said the heat and intense level of play on the soft "Roland Garros" clay were so weakening that he had to quietly throw up on the sidelines. Lendl finally showed the world he could win and that underneath that tough exterior he had heart and grit.
This French Open match did affect both players' careers. It was an exciting, pivotal moment for both. Wow.
For me the late 70s and 80s were the golden years of tennis
Unique and unrepeatable show in the history of world tennis, the elegance, class and effectiveness of John Mc Enroe's shots who expressed the best tennis of all time on clay against the solidity, regularity and baseline shots of Ivan Lendl gave life to the most beautiful final in the history of world tennis, the last example of how beautiful classic tennis could be to see and enjoy at a correct and acceptable ball speed which should always have been the one to make the matches wonderful but then 'revolution and technology have ruined one of the most beautiful individual sports in the world with super-light materials where the only thing that matters is hitting the ball in an exasperated way to wear down the opponent's resistance with endless baseline dribbles and to open up the field to score points and win the exchanges this match can be considered in all respects the conclusion of the classic and genuine tennis of the past which gave shivers to the spectators, after which other techniques of hitting the ball took over which revolutionized the world of tennis, making it mechanical and powerful.
This is exactly 40 years ago, but this is not old tennis! This is fast, lethal, highly athletic and hard fought tennis. What immense class these two!
Today they serve at double speed... Macca wouldn't even see a Sinner or Alcaraz serve. Old days are nice I know but today is another sport.
Yep. They were all using the composites in 1984.🎾
@@MaxGaloppante Ogni sportivo vive il suo tempo. Con gli allenamenti e gli strumenti di oggi sarebbero stati campioni anche nel 2024
@@lucapanarelli6294 Forse. So solo che questi battono regolarmente a oltre i 200 e tirano a 200. Ce li vedi McEnroe o Connors che si allenano come Nadal o Djokovic? Io no e quindi non ci sarebbe stata partita, anche oggi.
A lesser sport now.@@MaxGaloppante
These guys are artists. So much better than today's ball machine tennis.
Nonsense , it's like saying Nokia 3210 is better then modern smart phone
Ain't that the truth !! I used to think that modern or current eras in tennis - particularly the big 3 era - were unequal d in terms of skills & greatness. But not now. I challenge anyone who doesn't believe ; put any of the big three back in , say the 90 , s era - which was particularly strong , put them back up against the best of that period using the SAME equipment and resources - they would not could not reach 20 slams or more each - no way.
They wouldn't have a chance against Sinner, Djokovic, Alcaraz and others...
@@brunsbruns2377 Alcaraz literally folded the minute someone (Dimitrov) gave him some variety. What do you think would happen if he faced Edberg or McEnroe? He'd be lost.
@@brunsbruns2377The courts are more consistent and standardized now...the higher bounce enables playing from behind the baseline...there was a reason players with two-handed backhands were rarely successful at Wimbledon for instance as the low ball was difficult to deal with and you would need to get down low to play...now the game is waist and shoulder height everywhere...modern players are like machines requiring consistent pace and bounce but they would find it tough to play on inconsistent surfaces where more reflexes oriented technique is required and they would have to change the way the play...
Lendl is the prototype of the modern player. he was 30 year ahead of his time
Is Lendl to McEnroe a bigger leap than McEnroe to Borg and Borg to Vilas? Or do you consider Lendl in the same "modern" category like Becker, Agassi, Sampras, and maybe only make a new category for Federer, Nadal, Djokovic? Not arguing, just curious about your perspective, 30 years is a wide range
@@anonymous4711_ In my opinion, Lendl has the characteristics of the modern player, due to his style of play, which is what most resembles how it is played today and also due to his technique, I am not saying that he uses the refined mechanics that players have today thanks to technologies but he laid the foundations of the technique that we know today. We must also consider that with his style of play he achieved great achievements compared to the serve and volley style of those years.
@@Eebeeb-rz3ciInteresting, so for you tennis history is 2 parts, before-Lendl and after-Lendl?
@@anonymous4711_He was definitely a guy who pushed the tennis little bit further. Just look at his groundstrokes: topspin from both sides, forehand using wrist and compare to flat strokes of McEnroe typical for the era before. Lendl was also one of the first players to take care of physical condition including diet and took the training and preparation to the more professional level as we know it now.
Lendl was the reason I abandoned watching and playing tennis.
This guy made me sleep in each time when he met another "prototype".
They killed the artists, luckily, without being rotten out, and some start to emerge again.
Players like Lendl hold a hammer in their hand, while players like McEnroe hold a drumstick.
Workers against Musicians..
People miss the equipment factor. This is graphite racquet with normal strings and small in size some 80-85 sq inch. Current raquets are much bigger in isize 15-20% bigger and poly strings that add more top spin. Lots of shots played with current raquets can never be played with old raquets. Instead calling players from previous ers as inferior,people should ask how current players can play with these old raquets and still be able to play those top spin and win consistently. Those raquets used by John and Lendl require pure skill to opeate. Birg used much heavier wooden raquets to win 6 FO.
So, Bjorn changed his last name to Birg- (I didn't know). ;O
Spot on!
Don't miss the training factor through their entire youth. Players today train much more explosiveness, feeding themselves with creatine and alike, when they train aerobic, they wear an oxygen limiting mask, when they workout, the block the blood flow in the upper arms. They gain more power and endurance with less training. HITT did not exist when McEnroe played. Their body has changed. Recovery has improved too, they take an ice bath after a game, to restrict blood vessels and recover faster from accumulated lactate and inflammation in the tissues. They can play at a high level alost a decade longer.
In 30 minutes Gasquet would hit back hand rockets with those Racquets better then Johnny mac ever did.
I just watched this now and remember a couple of the crucial moments in this match back from watching this in 1984, 12 years old. I remember wanting Lendl to win, and he did in the end. I was so happy for Ivan!
same, haha
Top notch audio quality there! And an audience with respect!
To this day, the greatest display of offensive tennis (serve&volley, to be more specific) on a clay court, in tennis history. It doesn't even matter he lost that match in the end, the tennis he played for the entire match, especially in the first two sets, is simply legendary
I agree
I agree ❤
Unlucky in 4th set
I am but a tennis amateur, but I am always surprised that the Serve/Volley tactic works so well in the pros. (Keeping in mind that the receiver is ALSO a pro, so you would think they would have perfected both lobs and passing shots to counter it). Even on a very good serve.
Oh yes !
Ivan Lendl and John Mc Enroe thank you!
Lendl is one of great players often overlooked and underratet:)
Would have helped if he had won at least one Wimbledon. Going the whole career without the biggest prize?
Yes, the same I think of Mats Wilander too...
Such a great era of great matches and legends
Fantastic win for Ivan, my favourite!!!
Yes Ivan is great ; Ivan the terrible .
I remember this match, I am a McEnroe fan, I was fascinated by his serve and volley tennis, which was pure poetry; no man dare to play like him at Roland Garros like it was at Wimbledon, and, each time I see this final, I can't understand how he could play so divinely, and I can't accept he lost. Anyway, match like this and player like them, made kids like us to love tennis and making a tennis court in our church car park, and spend hours in playing that amazing sport, where it's not finished until it's finished.
It was a Great Match in RG in 1984. I learned an important Lesson from the Champion Ivan Lendl. Never lose a grip and confidence till last second in a fight. Victory will be Yours if you stay on challenge and regain your energy. That sportsmanship we saw even in Roger, Nadal and Djokovic. All these are Warriors
Ty. Two of the all time greats. I never saw this one. Happy Lendl got his 1st. McEnroe fabulous serve/volleyer; Ivan super ground strokes. Opposite personalities!👏🎾
watching serve and volley on clay is very interesting.
Mac was the greatest serve and volleyer of all time…he could make it look easy on any surface.
Edberg played it too on clay. With todays rackets it would be suicide.
Je n’ai jamais vu un joueur faire le jeux service /volée pendant un match sur terre battue comme John mc Enroe. Aucun autre joueur avant ou après lui n’a pratiqué un tel tennis offensif et peu importe qu’il ait perdu cette finale, il reste un génie inégalé et probablement le plus grand tennisman de tous les temps. Cela dit, Ivan Lendl restera un monument du tennis.
Si Stefan Edberg
Nice to see the players just turn away after the point without the continual fist pumping, especially when the opponent has hit it into the net. Classier times.
And no asking for the towel between every other point
Thats when men were men!
Das waren noch Zeiten. Echte Charaktere auf dem Platz.👍
Thanks for the archive video.
Serve and volley on clay, McEnroe was a genius. No one comes close to his best on hardcourt or grass. But his best was so brief.
People who don't know much of.the history of tennis are quick to say roger is the most talented player ever. No sorry Johnny Mac is by far the most talented player to ever pick up a racket.
@@tennisfan599McEnroe was an unorthodox genius, no question, but Laver is certainly in the equation for the most complete player to have played the game.
@@tennisfan599 They both had talent that's for sure. Those two guys are my favourite players.
What about Bill Tilden?@@tennisfan599
@@tennisfan599 "No sorry" back at you; all things equal, Fed was better on grass and at least Mc's equal on hard courts. Just my .02.
1984: Best McEnroe ever. Sharp groundstrokes forehand and backhand, great Serve and Volley. He never played like that again.
Fair comment too ; his 1984 version , one of the most complete & brilliant all court games of anyone
McEnroe won 5 majors before 1984 and won His 2 at Wimbledon and New York that same year. 40 years already. Time flies. Lendl finally wins his 1 of 8 majors here, after losing major finals starting at the French Open in a 1981 5 set final against Bjorn Borg, the last major Borg ever won. In many ways Lendl picked up where Borg left off in retirement. A great baseliner who could pick apart wonderful serve volley players in huge moments.
10:34 woah
I cannot recall this game but the 3rd set is the beginning of the end. Crucial moment is the net ball of McEnroe at 40-30 and 3-3 in the final set. If he would have made that crucial passing ball, he would have won the match I think. He remains my favorite of all times, even being enfant terrible but his subtle technique and style, let alone his service are special and unmatched.
This was a very high quality match. Both these guys were at the top of their forms in '84. This has been sighted before by others (incl Mc himself), but the critical point was in the 7th game of the 5th when McEnroe netted that down the line forehand. That was THE turning point imo. Both guys continued to play well, but Lendl's performance, which he had already cranked up considerably, was on fire after that. Thanks for posting !
McEnroe has stated that this was the toughest loss of his career and that he has never truly gotten over it.
Lendl should have won more slam. His 8 slams doesn't tell the whole story of how great he was.
The story it tells is that in his era, there was a historical amount of great and legendary players which made it tough for anyone to even sniff 10 majors. While I believe that Djokovic is the greatest player of all time…he, Fed and Nadal were the only show in town for two decades. None of them would have won half the Slams they did if they played in the 70s and 80s…
@@guslevy3506 i completely disagree. Big 3 would have won double digit slams in 70's & in 80's also. Of course they wouldn't be playing that long as they are playing now but still they would win a lot.
@@rajusaha855 I grew up watching during that era and no data will prove to my own eyes that the quality of players was much deeper and better back then…the fact that a guy like Nadal who is literally a one-dimensional player could win as much as he has is a testament to that.
Give that guy a standard size racket and he would have been an NPC during the 70s and 80s when players were forced to be all around players due to the rackets and strings…
@guslevy3506 you could also make the argument that there weren't any truly great players during that era comparable to the big three.
@@guslevy3506 Nadal is one dimensional 😂😂. I never heard that before. You have to admit the truth that the big 3 are class of their own. You can't win 20 slams with one dimensional game. Lendl is great but he was or (everybody) is step below big 3. Big 3 able to maximize in all three categories needed to be the GOAT i.e talent, longevity & consistency with versatility which past legend never did. Players like Borg, Mcenroe, Connors, Lendl, Sampras & Agassi didn't have excelled in all three categories. Of course I didn't count Laver, Rosewall & Gonzales as they were played majority of their tennis in pre open era with different tour structure.
I'm impressed how they use small frame as big as badminton racket but still generates such power 😮
At this time, there was a great diversity of games. Some players were baseliners, other played volley (Edberg). Some played with touch (McEnroe or Messi), others with power (Lendl). Some played 2-handed-backhands (Connors), others one-handed (Vilas). Some were more aggressive, others more patient (Borg). Today, all players seem to have the same kind of game, based only on baseline power with 2-handed backhands.
Blah, Blah, Blah. I am sure there were folks like you watching this in 1984 saying 1944 was the heyday and how Mac and Lendl couldn't win if they had to use the same racquets as Bobby Riggs and Pancho Gonzalez et al. It is really the laziest type of thinking to compare eras and that is why it is the most prevalent type of comment. Do better than the masses if you can.
John had more than 50 highlights on the net
merci pour ce match merveilleux !!
Cela s'est joué à un détail... Mais quel plaisir de voir ce tennis offensif de Mac enroe .
I'm from city where Lendl was born and played as junior. His childhood was similar to chess players Polgars sisters. Only tennis. I will be number one. Trained hard and after ten years of such hard training he took big dividends.
Kde domov muj kde domov muj Ostrava
One of the best finals ever played at Roland-Garros. Power against artistry. A perfect interplay.
Lendl knew well net play
Deshalb stand er auch zweimal im Finale von Wimbledon! Er war der beste Spieler der nie auf dem heiligen Rasen gewinnen konnte!
Dans ce match, John Mc Enroe a montré tout le répertoire de ses meilleurs tirs avec un sentiment d'anticipation et une élégance unique en les amenant à prendre le filet ou à faire des vainqueurs et tant que ses jambes répondaient correctement, il n'y avait pas de match, mais alors quand il se sentait une légère fatigue car son type de jeu sur une surface lente coûte très cher, Lendl est sorti à distance et a compris que la seule façon de ramener ce match avec John Mc Enroe pendant la majeure partie du match injouable était de le ramener au niveau du marathon de tennis et pas au niveau de la classe et de la qualité des tirs en gardant le plus longtemps possible dans le champ tactique le joueur américain qui a finalement payé un prix très élevé et peut-être pas pleinement mérité pour un moment unique et inoubliable final pour la beauté des tirs, l'équilibre et l'intensité du jeu.
What an incredible match. The level got higher and higher as the match progressed. Neither player gave an inch and both were willing to do whatever it takes. The contrast in styles made strategy and tactics very clear for each player, so all they had to worry about was execution. Very entertaining.
Thanks for the upload. Ivan Lendl is one of the legends of the 80s
I vaguely remember watching this match on television. I was young then and just starting to find interest in tennis. Seeing the highlights today, I can only say, McEnroe had this win on his strings. He let it get away from him. Today's tennis is really different from this.
40 YEARS LATER & JOHNNY MAC STILL KICKING HIMSELF FOR LOSING THAT MATCH
He took his frustrations out on Jimmy Connors a few weeks later at Wimbledon, his absolute peak there.
#1 unsportsmanlike
What a show! The times when hitting the ball at 220 km/h didn't pay off, and serve-and-volley ruled! Not only McEnroe, also Edberg was a master at that.
Serve and Volley in Clay 😀. McEnroe is very skillful to stretch and harass Ivan like that in Clay. Great Match. Great highlights. Credit to Ivan as well - to come so far from behind. He was clutch and steady when he had to stave off those break points. I remember another gem (Agassi v Muster) in QF in the 90s. That was a great game as well. Pls upload the highlights of that as well.
Tennis must come back to wooden rackets to gain back its charisma
Lendl-McEnroe is still my ideal rivalry ...the 80s had a unique aura, and they were the symbols of those years.
Opposite characters, opposite style of playing ....back when it was almost impossible to win all the year, in different superficies
greatest match ever. Lendl, what a champion!
Genial! Mc almost won, love his attacking game. Would love to see another past time classic here: Becker vs Edberg Semifinal 1989, si possible ❤
C'est un de ces rares matchs où celui qui l'a gagné n'est pas vraiment sûr d'être le meilleur sur le terrain. Cela n'arrive que dans des cas très exceptionnels car devant faire une statistique des échanges joués, John Mc Enroe s'en est certainement sorti. de celui-ci, vaincu, il a remporté les meilleurs rallyes joués en faisant preuve d'un tennis exceptionnel sur une surface lente comme la terre battue rouge mais au tennis on sait que très souvent celui qui marque le plus de points gagne, pour sa part Ivan Lendl qui a été le vainqueur du match mis. il montre un tennis solide avec d'excellents passeurs avec des angles très difficiles qui sont sa spécialité et dans quelques cas avec des lobs gagnants vraiment excellents. FINITION FANTASTIQUE ET UNIQUE DANS L'HISTOIRE DU TENNIS POUR LA BEAUTÉ ET L'INTENSITÉ.
C'étaient les 2 seuls joueurs de l'époque du "serve and volley" capables de proposer des rallyes à couper le souffle (chose rare à l'époque). Pour l'anecdote j'ai regardé ce match cette année là sur une télé noir et blanc 🥹 et j'étais fan de Lendl 😊
Great match! These two were at their prime. Impressive to watch this battle.
Lendl was amazing. And a really friendly funny guy too. Wonderful player.
It's almost like watching Mozart and Bethooven create a masterpiece together.
Revoir ce match 40 ans plus tard, c est fou, tout est beau!...De vrais joueurs de tennis absolument sublime mais maintenànt!...Quels joueurs !
Big Mac Nightmare is still alive ..cmon Ivan Lendl, Czech machine and legend ,that match was crazy incredible :-)
Mi mayor disgusto como aficionado al tenis-arte. Nunca lo olvidaré. Mac Enroe era un genio
Me pasó lo mismo!! Todavía me duele. Encima vi el partido rodeado de fans de Lendl...😒
Just insane hands on Big Mac. This is such a beautiful match.
McEnroe always amazes me. He basically almost turn his back to the direction he is serving to
This match was Artwork on a tennis court. Truly Wonderful
SUPER EDIT. THANKS A LOT
Legendary match after Wimbledon finals in '80 and '81.
Uno de los grandes partidos de la historia
Lendl started to play deeper shots in the third set therefore McEnroe couldnt volley so easy anymore and that turned the game.Though Lendl had a continental grip that made his one handed left shot weaker than nowadays, players now should noticed the way he bent down and the steadiness it gives.I still cant understand how Mcenroe could play that unorthodox style it was so agressive like a table tennis player. An epic match in History of tennis.
Beating the great J Mac at his peak made victory even sweeter for Ivan.
Mac is a fan of Ivan's to this day and brings him up in conversation as an all-time great.
Mac says, "Ivan made it to 8 straight US Open finals. When's the next time anyone's gonna do that?"
but only won 3. How about Fed in 7 straight Wimbledon finals and won 6
@@davidr2802 So what, winning 3 US Opens is huge. It's the top tournament to many players. Plus, Ivan's record in 8 years outside the finals was 48-0 ... in the US Open!! You try it.
@@davidr2802???? That only goes to prove how much better the quality the players were back then in Mac and Lendl’s era doesn’t it??
Die verlorenen Endspiele 1982/1983 gegen Connors und 1984 gegen McEnroe waren auch von großer Unfairness geprägt! Nicht von den Spielern aber von der grölenden Menge die Lendl ständig ausgepfiffen haben!
Lendl is the MAN!!
What a humble reaction…. Considering he had been waiting 3 years since his first final to win a grand slam
Er stand 1982/1983/1984 im Finale der US Open! Er verlor zweimal gegen Connors und einmal gegen diesen McEnroe!
This was Lendl’s breakthrough Slam. Perseverance pays off. We can learn from him.
When tennis was pure melody...
Who’s watching in 2024 thinking I wish I could volley like Johnny Mac 👏👏
Que jugador AMARGO era lendl por favor !!!! Mc Enroe CRACK!!!! La mejor volea de todos los tiempos una EXQUISITEZ...
je crois qu'on ne reverra jamais plus une main telle que celle de McEnroe . talent pur !
En fait , il utilise une raquette très peu tendue, et prend la balle tôt, et se doit de jouer relacher. Je pense que d'autres joueurs pourraient s'inspirer de lui, mais pour des raisons inconnues, personne ne cherche à s'en inspirer. Ca vient aussi de l'école de tennis, très académique. Je pense que sa facon de jouer serait encore efficace aujourd'"hui. Ce qui est fou d'ailleurs c'est que personne n'essaye de s'inspirer de sa facon de servir. Pour l’anecdote, je m'étais mis au badminton, venant du tennis...je jouais au départ comme je joue au tennis, me prenant des roustes en permanence contre mon partenaire de jeu...Jusqu'au jour ou je me dis que je vais jouer au badminton, en mode mc enroe...reduction de la préparation des coups, me précipitant sur le volant etc...Résultat, dés la première fois, j'ai battu mon partenaire !
What a fantastic match.
J'ai vu ce match un dimanche en famille, et tout le monde détestait Lendl. Moi j'étais adolescent , mon coup droit était celui de Lendl, mon revers celui de McEnroe, et mon service de Noah. Je voulais absolument que le vilain Mozart du tennis perde, moi. Que le grincheux, le caractériel doué, se prenne une raclée face au soi disant robot sans coeur qu'était Lendl. Je défendais Lendl comme Tim Burton défend le Pingouin. Le mal aimé hué par la foule. Je me souviens bien de ce repas de famille bourgeois où tout le monde applaudissait le sale gosse américain. Et c'est vrai qu'il a dominé le match de son talent extraordinaire fait de coups de pattes de chat. Et puis, tout doucement, mon héros des pays de l'Est à tronche de vampire anorexique s'est mis à remonter la pente et puis, progressivement, à renverser le match. Quel pied, sa balle de match concrétisée, enfin cette victoire à Roland Garros tant espérée! Merci pour ce résumé plein de souvenirs proustiens émouvants, à l'échelle de l'humble 15/1 que je fus au sommet de ma gloire. Aujourd'hui, en revoyant ce match, le talent des deux joueurs saute aux yeux. Le génie, la frustration, la volonté, les oppositions de genre, tous les éléments étaient réunis pour un match de légende. Comme le tennis nous a tant offert à travers les époques (Wimbledon victoire de Nadal face à Federer) et encore aujourd'hui (AO Sinner / Medvedev).
I was a huge Lendl fan and wore his Adidas shirts when I played tennis growing up.
They should bring back some of the iconic ones like the argyle shirts he wore in this match. Having said that, the shirts I really wish they could bring back are Mad Mac’s equally iconic Sergio Tacchini shirts that he also wore in this match…so retro cool…
McEnroe for sure one of the best hand-eye coordination of all time.
I was a big fan, so were almost all my peers that picket up tennis around 1980. He showed us that tennis is creative, beautiful and emotional. And, of course, he cursed and threw raquets even more than we already did. Our moms hated his demeanor, our dads still turned on the tv when he played.
I guess everyone has to find a valve for their emotions. Today i think, his behavior lost him some matches and was very disrespectful many times. But still like to watch his matches. Good old days. I grew up with him, as a teenage fan. And even played the dunlop 200g, which was way to heavy for a small junior, of course.
Insane how Mac lost that. First two sets were absolutely god level insane. His movement and feel were on another level.
The mid-80s were the last years that serve and volley was a winning strategy. With new racket technology and power hitting, only baseline players can succeed.
McEnroe's level in the first two sets was totally insane
Как же раньше любили выходить к сетке сейчас такого нет особенно на грунте...!
Yes! Serve and volley of JohnnyMac is greatest art! Who other is playing this style nowadays?
It's crazy how aggressive McEnroe's serve volley was🔥
Handshakes of the 80s looked so cold !
Lendl’s backhand was such a beautiful stroke 😮
what a game.so pleasent to have this opposition of style which disappear since all the surfaces have been slow downed
This is real tennis. Serve & volley, attacking the net, passing shots, aggressive play… not the boring 9,000-shot rallies with both players behind the baseline droning on forever.
It's amazing that even on the slow clay of Paris that Mac was always looking for the opportunity to come in and volley. He came so close that day to winning but it was always going to be difficult to beat Lendl, a man who was brought up on European clay. A few weeks later Mac absolutely destroyed Jimmy Connors in the Wimbledon final, probably one of the shortest, most one sided men's finals in Wimbledon history.
That racket from Ivan is superb!!
Phenomenal serving and volleying from McEnroe, and sensational defence and backhand from Lendl. Sport was purer in the 70s and 80s.
Both Lendl’s and McEnroe’s serves were good. It’s crazy that we can clearly see this on a tape of the French Open from 1984.
A dyeing art, serve and volley. John McEnroe was the best.
Spettacolo unico ed irripetibile per la storia del tennis mondiale l'eleganza la classe e l'efficacia dei colpi di John Mc Enroe che ha espresso il miglior tennis di tutti i tempi sulla terra battuta contro la solidità la regolarità e le sbracciate da fondo campo di Ivan Lendl hanno dato vita alla più bella finale della storia del tennis mondiale ultimo esempio di come poteva essere bello da vedere e da gustare il tennis classico ad una velocità di palla giusta ed accettabile che avrebbe dovuto essere sempre quella per rendere le partite meravigliose ma poi' la rivoluzione e la tecnologia hanno rovinato uno degli sport individuali più belli del mondo con materiali superleggeri dove conta solo picchiare la palla in modo esasperato per fiaccare la resistenza del avversario con palleggi da fondo interminabili ed aprirsi il campo per fare i punti e vincere gli scambi questa partita puo' considerarsi a tutti gli effetti la conclusione del tennis classico e genuino di una volta che faceva venire i brividi agli spettatori dopo di che sono subentrate altre tecniche di colpire la palla che hanno stravolto il mondo del tennis rendendolo meccanico e potente.
beh questo e' abbastanza soggettivo, io capisco che puo piacere un tennis giocato cosi perchè agli inizi era cosi, ma sinceramente io preferisco quello di adesso, il modo piu efficace per fare punto è quello di tirare piu forte possibile è per questo che il tennis oggi sia tutto cosi, ma comunque per me la bellezza di questo sport è sempre la stessa, sia con uno stile di gioco piu lento e tattico che uno di potenza.
McEnroe in the first 2 sets...😮😮😮😮...mind boggling volleys. And that on clay.
Johnny Mac, the magician, the artist !
Lucky to be there to wach Alcarez & Tommy Paul...in 2024 Olympics
I will never be able to understand how McEnroe lost this match by playing the first two sets so well.
Two Artists playing almost flawless Tennis
Serve and Volley on a clay court!!!! Wow!
I still can't believe Mac lost this match. You cannot be serious
Brilliant!
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From that era I always like lendl the best
How tennis has changed. So much more physical and tactical now a days .