Your COMPLETE mining strategy guide | Warframe
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- Run out of Hesperon? Can't get Thaumica fast enough? Unsure what a resource drop chance booster even does? I walk you through EVERYTHING you need to know about mining. All advice in this is powered by math and hard experience to ensure you get the best results.
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Probably a huge tip: Another great frame for mining is Warframe’s fastest frame, Titania. You can’t equip a mining laser while you have an arch wing, but you can in Razorwing. This gives you the benefit of unrestricted movement to reach those hard to get nodes and (by default) six bodyguards that will draw enemy fire away from you and take them out, all for the low cost of energy drain.
You could use a mining lazer in an archwing, but it's a pain to do. Possible up to a few months ago for sure, I don't know if they patched it out because I haven't tried it in that long. I figured out how by mistake and I was asking people how after I did it, and everyone said it's not possible so I gave up for a bit, but I googled it and found a post from years ago explaining how- It has to do with how you equip your weapons and gear.
Until you get the silent upgrade. Then just use loki or ivara. Not getting shot at ever > having butterfly bodyguards.
@@Wooskii1 i got a similar bug with the archwing launche and the archgun while on Orb Vallis.
I mainly use Titania in other content & I definitely like using Titania to mine to get closer to the veins. I was gonna make a comment along these lines if you didn't.
@@Benzinilinguine Usually the enemies aren't a major issue for me, you can just kill everything first, or avoid them, my razorflies & panzer vulpaphyla usually kill the enemies, unless it's like a turret or something that pushes you out of position.
Sometimes you can mine an ore vein without seeing it's weak nodes by visualizing the triangular patern. Or, by wildly flailing your lazer arround and hoping to get lucky
Me when the ore vein is slightly out of my range in a cave
Flailing laser method (with either Loki or Ivara) is actually how I do Nightwave mining missions these days.
Especially since I've built basically everything I want and still remember how painful the whole Hesperon thing was.
Sometimes it just bugs out and doesn't have any at all so you can't mine it. Smh
To fix this, just unequip your mining tool and re-equip
@@kwoni3337 someone already suggested unequipping your mining laser and equipping it again to force the nodes to appear. Alternatively, I've found the hotspots to bug out when they're highly concentrated in the area. Mine a different hotspot and the one you're trying to get will have the nodes magically appear.
Dude u r the David Attenborough of Warframe. Love your focused topical/educational style & content. Don't ever stop making informative videos.
So true
I heavily dislike hot-take focused videos and I agree with the OP.
In the Orb Vallis, you can mine both inside and outside of the Deck 12 entrance. The veins reload when you cross the gate both ways. Enemies will never spawn over there. I think it's a decent spot for mining runs. However the respawn is sometimes inconsistent.
In all the years of the game, NO ONE has put out such a complete, comprehensive, factual and straight to the point mining guide.
I had to piece out all this knowledge from the forums, wiki comments, crappy YT vids and trial and error. Kengineer pulls ahead of the competition yet again.
My go-to method when it comes to mining (albeit I'm doing it mostly for the Nora challenges these days, because I have a stockpile of everything):
with ore nodes I start the mining and look for the rare gem brackets - if there isn't one I just release the trigger. this proven to be both fast and efficient with added bonus of getting a gem for free.
and when it comes to gem nodes I usually take my time with them and try to cut them perfectly. its still pretty fast but because the yield of the gems is much lower than the ore - I find it better to give them more time, compared to ore that drops in large quantities.
Btw didn't know that you could reset the reward sequence with re-equipping the laser, thanks for the heads-up!
the requipping could also be achieved by using melee once and aim again. Mining laser is considered pistol so no swapping animation is needed. I prefer fast stationary melee.
Nice I'm doing the exact same thing
Adding to this, know that the rarest gems have a fixed droprate, doesn’t matter if you cut them perfectly or just quick-tap them, they will always drop the same amount.
Fun fact: the reason why you have no heciphron is because its drop rate from veins is actually drastically lower when mined with a Sunpoint Plasma Drill, an issue that hasn’t been fixed since Deimos’ launch. The only effective way to obtain it is by mining nodes with the those optional tiny brackets inside of them which give you extra gems/ores when mined, in addition to what you would’ve gotten from that vein already.
At 10:00, he mentions minor inconveniences caused by UI softlock, and to tackle that, you just swing melee and then click right after. Doing so will completely bypass the UI sequence and get you right back to the mining (and for that reason, I recommend throwable melee. Setting hot key for miner is still good idea though). Also, at combion drift, I find it more relaxing to mine inside of an isolation vault. Every single vault (new instances) has rich resources you can mine for quite a while. Plus, if you clear the mission, no more enemies spawn to distract you.
I figured this trick out after watching the video and came back to the comments to share, but you beat me to it.
Yeah, you don't need to un-equip and re-equip the mining laser, just pressing the melee button brings out your melee weapon, and then either shooting or aiming brings you right back to the mining laser. HUGE time saver, either way :)
Yeah that exactly what i always did
@@TechnetiumTc43 i was found it accidently xd by missclick cuz habit of hit different key from others game
There's a rumor that doing this prevents progress on nightwave rare mining.
@@Kuldirongaze1 You are right, but there is a catch. It will not register the second rare resource you manage to dig up. For example, if you dig up nyth and auron at the same time, and preform the melee, the second auron will NOT be registered by the game (because this game is too great). So if you are 100% certain that you got 2 rare resources (indicated by very narrow brackets during the mining), it would be your best interest to not perform melee attack. Note that you still get the resouce, it's just that it will not count towards the NW mission progress.
An argument can be made for always carefully mining instead of fast. The difference in a direct comparison isn't too great, and one thing to consider is that the extra material you don't need right now is surplus you don't need to mine later for something else. Especially when ore mining, the extra gems do help in the long run. If you stack -much- more gems than you need, you can also trade them in with Suumbat/Smokefinger/Otak for standing points.
That wasn't the argument. You mine faster to mine more nodes.
@@1q34w In either case the argument is how much material per time can you gather.
@@1q34wand you mine more nodes to get more stuff. I think you’re confused.
He’s absolutely right. If you’re good at nailing them perfectly, mining thyst in the vallis is objectively faster than bounties for standing
Dashwire is also a good ability that’ll help you to fish.. so if you have a booster and want to spend a relaxing moment of farming multiple things in a single open world playthrough, ivara is a good choice.
Agreed!
Though my go to fishing frames are usually Volt or Zephyr
Volt doesn't care about the different spears for Cetus fish, due to his passive
And Zephyr can increase the projectile speed with her 3 Augment which makes aiming a bit easier (especially on Deimos imo)
@@TsubasayaYami yup. Weapon boosting frames would definitely help for fishing. Though, for me, changing spear is not an issue. Usually i just focus in one types of fish at a time.
As for fishing in deimos, i found it a lot easier… no issue standing on the fluid etc.
Being invisible while mining/fishing/hunting (undisturbed by mobs); using dashwire to reach hard to reach minerals or standing in the middle of the lake to fish (or near flying mutated fish); and sleep arrow for hunting most of the wildlife; are why i said ivara is a good choice if you want to spend hours of farming things on open worlds
Ivara is the best for hunting
i use her to hunt but didn't think to use the zip to fish. ty
It may be worth noting that if you're just after certain Cambion Drift minerals and gems, Requiem Obelisks may be a better way to go, especially if you focus on the more fruitful ones. It could be I was trying the wrong caves (I think was after one of the "common" minerals) but when I was really struggling to gather enough of what I needed via mining the pillars quickly got me sorted.
Instead of pulling out a weapon and then pulling out your laser, you can just melee attack and then aim to switch back and forth. Also of note, nightwave mining challenges need the results pop up to finish completely in order to count.
one thing he forgot to mention (probably because there was no nightwave asking for it at the time) when you're mining for the nightwave challenge using the animation skip method either by meleeing or unequipping via hotkey doesn't trigger the nightwave act's counter, you have to wait at least till the rare gem animation pops up.
you still get the resources regardless just nightwave being bad at detecting that by targeting the animation played rather than your inventory.
I Love your videos, they are the most interesting because you go through the usually skipped bits of information that are "unnecessary" to others and provide a wonderful amount of data for everyone to use for our collective betterment. Thank you for everything you've done and know that it is appreciated.
The exploiter orb cave is great in fortuna. Tons of vanes and you can keep loading in and out to refresh them. Not sure of the quality tho, I do remember them giving rare gems/ore.
You could not have had better timing, I've been trying to get Hesperon for ages now and you saved me so many trips to the Orb fight cave on the right side of Orb Valis where I normally mine lmao
love your content. Easy to follow and always on point!
Excellent tip here and when my brother plays warframe He sometimes stills his mates on the PC that are just recently entered the game he just tells them to get a plasma drill instead of a Nosam Cutter Because for the 1st drill you need to continue with increased standing with Cetus to upgrade Nossam Cutter from basic to Focused and Advanced. On the other hand plasma drill you can simply mine the ores that require Advanced and Focused Nosam Cutter directly. That's why you should be going to Fortuna at the earliest stage.
Amazing video, I did not exspect this level of quality honestly. Respect Kengi
Love it. I play Vauban as my main and I just release "THE SQUAD" AKA Tesla Nervos and they keep me safe while mining, if things get ugly then I can just use other abilities and forget about it. lol
I’m a big mining fan. It’s easy recourses, credits, and standing, so this guide was great, thank you!
Thank you!
I been grinding all the open worlds for the past 2 weeks and i missed quiete a bunch of tips you mentioned!
Another great video when I’m looking for the info 👍🏾
yo, thanks for this guide. totally helpful, the mining location, mining tools that i need. omg thanks for this video
Very informative. Thank you :)
Great video as always, you've mentioned everything thats needs to be mentioned.
I mine materials regularly as its a great way to gain reputation by selling them to the vendors on the various planets.
Kengineer I love you so much. You're so helpful to people in Warframe and you stick to that on your channel 💕
ken i wonder what you think about deck 12 as a mining location for the vallis. no enemies, and almost all the deposits there is easy to reach.
Thanks, this really helped in completing the mining act for nightwave, and I think it will help a lot in the future. So about fishing..
Ivara, by the way. You can build for invis and summon your K-Drive, Cast invis and during the animation jump on your K-Drive. You now have her invis without the movement restrictions. Also your energy drain I believe excludes the movement additional cost. So whatever your energy pool is and with max efficiency Ivara moving and mining in this manor will be losing energy as if she is standing still! so enjoy your crazy invisibility uptime! and happy mining.
Will try that out. Close to my results. May be helpful for NW. thanks .
finaly some great video with important tips - you have made great job, especialy with those drop place analyse and charts. Also tip about better Warframe for this is valuable. Thanks
Game changeer, life saver, thanks for sharing this with us
Thank you for telling us WHERE and HOW to get that laser!
It's not an efficient method, but if you're tired of mining you can also get some common and uncommon mining resources from the crates strewn around the map, so you can passively generate some resources while doing other things such as bounties and the like. From my experience though, rare resources won't drop at all, so you'll have to mine for those unfortunately.
Fast vs proper release depends upon what you are mining for. Rare gems has the same basic yield whatever the performance is, so if its them you are looking for (say, for Nora), it's more efficient to just tap unless there are bonus brackets. If you need huge amounts of common ore/gems, it would be probably wiser to mine properly.
Would be nice to get a view on your dataset to gage things like the "likely an outlier" at 8:01 for Pyrol. Really looks like twice the amount there and that would be huge since Pyrol is the mining resource most people always run out on first.
Now I can finally understand mining after years of doing it
It might be worth submitting a Bug ticket about the chance boosters effect, since Im pretty sure DE have said before (or its on a tooltip or some other abstract information method, I can't remember exactly) that Resource drop chance boosters increase the amount of veins that will spawn, and according to these results that simply isn't true.
tysm finally got the ore i was looking for but now I've been stuck in a cave for over 40min and can't find exit lmfao
Estuve teniendo un serio problema para encontrar Amarasto, gracias a tus consejos logré encontrar al fin, muchas gracias de verdad, me suscribo enseguida!
Could you make a video about the best ways to complete riven challenges?
I love the way you format your videos
Bro ive been using the nozam for ages without ever knowing the one on fortuna existed, this is by far one of the best most educational warframe channels. you could tell me deleting my account could benefit me and id do it. fr though thanks so much for your content it really does come in handy
Ya I remember mining with both booster and chance booster on to speedrun back then, and I got like 0 pyrol while everything else was done so you're completely spot on
Great guide as always. Kinda surprised Deck 12 wasnt mentioned. Always my goto for fhe Nightwave challenge as there's a lot of nodes there and it's far from Fortuna
Thank you so much for that chart. I swear I wasn't finding even a single piece of namalon until I saw this.
that hesperon tip saved me, time for baruuk :)
Thank you so much!
Thanks Professor 👍🏻
With no data to back this up and just anekdotal feelings:
In my experience its often benefical to carefully mine ore veins and fast mine gem veins. Ore veins often give you between 2-10 of the ore depending on your result. While some gems will give you only 1 no matter what or just a small boost of 2 or 3 extra gems. And careful mining doesn't seem to increase the rarity of the stuff.
But like I said, I don't have data to back this claim up.
Maybe....but my guess abt careful mining is you get increased rarity gem when the ore icon in mining tool is filled ( the 6 ore thing in mining tool UI ) cuz there's one time i so desperately just tryin to farm common gem but get uncommon-rare one because i think you should careful mining
I always told new players to just buy the fortuna laser and ignore the cetus ones. I knew the fortuna one was better but not how large the difference was. Thank you for breaking it down.
Outstanding video as always. Mining sucks so much in this game that any way to optimize it is greatly appreciated
I mine using the fast method but I also keep an eye out for the bonus gem brackets. its a good way or optimizing variety, time and yield.
I use Wukong for mining. Taking only my Kuva Chakur means the clones snipes enemies before they get close. Can get similar effect using any clone, but on XBox, your mining laser/weapon switch is a pain; so having a dedicated guard is nice.
I'm actually kinda okay with them having used the mining mechanic for the mechanic of the Nataruk.
Luckily, the perfect shot is timed the same way every time you shoot it (considering the speed mods), so you don't really have to watch the gauge.
As much as I think the Nightwave mission to mine 6 rare ores/gems is annoying, it sure does a good job of keeping your inventory decently stocked
for most mining, instead of invisbility, I often just take Hildryn, and straight up ignore enemies. outside of steel path, they just con't damage her enough.
I like to equip a lot of holster speed for equipping the sunpoint mining laser to skip the gem notification.
I don't know the gem rates for the cave in deck 12 but it seems like a good mining spot.
If only this video existed before I had to learn all of this by myself. Although, I feel like learning this myself was part of my WF journey so I don't really feel bad about it.
Ivara is my go-to for anything open world. She can even do animal conservation with her Sleep Arrows. Dashwire when fishing in caves in OV. Not to mention with Navigator for either the Sleep Arrows or just the tranq shots. Heck, use Navigator on the fishing spears if you want (tho it feels like it's more difficult to aim that way).
one thing that wasn't mentioned is, hitting the center of each bracket improves your cut quality, filling up those stars at the top more.
each star represents your quantity multiplier. ores have a base of 2, common gems have 1.
so at 5 starts youll get 10 ores or 5 common gems
rare gems have a null base. so you'll always get just 1 without a booster
AND each star improves the chances of getting rarer materials.
so being accurate is very important!
and double checking the wiki, it says the farther away from home base raises the starting point of these stars.
which would explain why your results showed near constant high quality materials when far away.
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Instead of "shooting" at the points, you can just hold the laser and move over the little points ..the advantage is, if over a little point is that small area for special material, you can decide to do it, thats not the case when you're just "shooting" at it. But all in all, as allways, very helpfull!
9:59 You can switch to operator form and back to skip the gem/ore animation
So I mined up a lot of stuff years ago, and finished up Deimos last week or so. I really wish I'd seen this, because I had no idea those thin brackets were a *good* thing, I thought I was meant to actively avoid them. No idea why I thought that, but oof. Oof. Can't imagine how many gems I didn't get *on purpose*.
Frame suggestions, you missed Titania who can use the drill while in razorwing. High efficiency/duration build.
Glad I've procrastinated on mining so I can do it "right" now :'D
Hey Ken I think you missed a significant mining location in the vallis. The old platform 13 cave has a significant number of mining nodes on your way inside the old home of the vox Solaris and also on your way out.
Mining and fishing are great ways to get away from the chaos of battle. Almost calming, to an extent.
I use this fast strategy since first mining farming released in game
thank you!
Another way to skip the UI lockout is to enter operator mode, which I've been doing for a while. You won't get progress on Nightwave challenges if you don't see the rare gem/ore however, even if you acquired it.
THANK YOU
5:20 - plains of eidolon
5:41 - cambrion drift
6:16 - orb vallis
This is Interesting stuff, really. I just shoot the ores with the MIGHTY SEER tho
Im looking at mining before we lose the smeeta boost. Some of my observations are. Hold a second before moving to a new point so you dont get half-ass rewards. In principle, not wasting 2/3 of mining time on the minigame. Im thinking now that the second node is worth the chance at rare rewards when seen. Im currently looking into the best frames. I wish it was gauss; it would be cool to do rapid succesion vains. In the running: ivara, zephyr, volt, gauss, wukong, trinity, loki.
me personally i noticed a diff tween the advanced nosam & sunpoint when looking for travoride & pyrol. it yeileds me more than the sunpoint, in my experience anyway.
What about Deck 12 in Orb Vallis? I always mine there for the Nightwave act and it has a lot of veins, plus each time you cross the doors it resets the level giving you infinite(?) veins
9:29 you call also use the stealth arrow as it makes a patch of stealth so you mine without braking stealth but it dose slow you down to cast it all the time, personally I use the stealth arrow when I need to recharge my energy pool as standing in the stealth patch of the arrow keeps you stealths while your using a pizza or spoiler skill, be warned that the stealth arrow dosnt Effect your spoiler it can still be seen which is a bit odd so if your using zen hop out quickly hit 1 then hop back in and hope no one saw you.
You can zoom with the lazer? Once I figure out how to do it mining will become a bit easier.
Also can you do a video about specters.
I mostly mine for the cetus standing (forgot the name sorry) it's tedious but easy especially if you don't have much ways to farm other things, there's a cave a bit from the entrance of cetus that always has a bunch of gems so I just go in mine everything in there, leave, then go straight back and repeat, it's not the most efficient or the fastest but it's good for early players, who don't want to go through more difficult standing farms. And when done u just trade in gems to the gem guy in cetus until u reach cap, it worked for me it'll work for early players to.
It took me a while to even realize there was mining on Deimos. EVERYTHING is glowing, lol
Best advice if you hate mining- Don't Do IT, if you can avoid it. Requem Pylons- Deimos is an absolute pain (unless you get inside the vault tunnels first) so I actually took someone else's advice and did requem pylons, way more fun and rewarding. Also can get rare fishing and mining materials from other places like the Orb mother, and Tusk thumpers. I avoid fishing/ mining/ hunting unless I absolutely have to, like for needed nighwave points.
Wow this made my life so mutch easier
Ive just jumped back on after years and i have no clue where im going or what im doing so even the quests I do have dont tell me anything about mining. I just saw gems in need for Guass and had no idea how to find them. Now i know i need to mine but have idea who to talk to to buy them or when it gets introduced to me in game. 😂
Thx man, im brazillian and helped me a lot (sorry for my english )
As if you can read minds.... trying to get these damn rare gems for Lavos the last few days and this video just comes very handy here. Thank you!
I have been trying to mine for embolos for a couple months now. I thought I just had bad luck. I guess I just needed to get a different mining tool. Who would have known.
This is insane! I really thought the Hesperon zone is just myth
Hi Kengineer! Would you be able to do a video on Titania? She's fun, but I dont really understand how to use her very well.
Hey K, does the drop chance booster still skew the chances of finding ore veins? I was gonna do some mining today but I logged in to see a drop chance booster tribute haha
Thank you my god. You don't how helpful this was
Best Tipp for mining and fishing is do as much is possible the alternative ways to get the mining fishing recourse
Cetus = kill the bumpers
Fortuna = check always the creats inside of buildings they have often rare fishing and mining stuff
Daimos = make that little towers that can you start whit your operator
When you do all this BTW normal bounties you reduce the time you have to spend on fishing and mining significant
WAIT!!! you can zoom with the MMB? dude 6k hrs and i still didn't know that
Sometimes when I free roam either Cambion or the Plains, caves are completely empty of ANY ore/gem veins and I still haven't figured out why
Did you ever try Fast mining but always taking the small brackets? I got it from somewhere that it's the best method (especially for getting the most of the rarest gems). Or maybe I just made that up myself
After mining for hours I got three necra with sun point, after switching to advanced nosam I mined for 20min and got 30 necra. I hear the exact same story from others. Was the yield per vein worse? Absolutely, but since I already had a surplus in all other minerals and gems on Deimos I didn’t care and five or 10 low yield mines of the only gem I need in 20min is much better than one or two high yield mines in the span of about six hours worth of mining.
I also found this, though less effective, to help with pyrole, of which I never had more than 10 of using the over-effective sunpoint.
The sunpoint is more effective in general, and will continue to use it, but when I need those minerals lower on the drop table, I need the nosam.
I just found this out.
But when the mining nodes refuse to show up. What I do is I aim directly at the vein/ore, and then walk away with a zigzag motion, or sometimes I walk in circles around it with a bit of distance. Key thing here is just aim directly at it while moving. Ever since I did this technique the mining nodes always show up. Hope this helps!
I spent so much time mining sht for blueprints that needed it and now it turns out the rarity changes when I go further...
There's probably some truth to that "sunpoint vs nosam rare gem probability". But from my experience so far, it only applies for necrathene. I have mined for hours and hours in deimos and have acquired, in total, probably less than 10 necrathene using sunpoint. Most of my necrathene came from the pylons. But the moment I used nosam, necrathenes are popping left and right. With a booster, I got 30ish in just a couple of minutes.
Either that or my rng just sucks stinky balls
I can second this. I get zero necrathane when using sunpoint, but plenty when dropping to an inferior mining laser. So I only take it when I need to farm that specific resource.
Which is the best mining laser to use?