@@joyce_rx thing is a few days ago I went after gara's part bp from meso (bronze rarity) with 11 relics. I legitimately got every possible reward from the relic except what I needed. Including the rare gold drop
@@nerflv3428 A while back, I saw Titania Prime Systems were gonna be vaulted so I planned to run some random relics to get some traces. First run with a random, some other dude got it.
> Waste 3 rad relics in a row that ended being bronze > You ran out of void traces and you decide to farm more > You instantly get a gold drop in an unwanted intact relic that you don't needed the gold drop :)
Yea straight up, i got exactly what i wanted from relics and then the one time i only needed the one part for a prime weapon it decided, NAH FUCK YOU in ozzyman reviews voice
@@financialzero5684the number of full primes ive gotten trying to get a SINGLE forma bp is insane. A few years back, probably around the time this video was initially posted, I finished a warframe, 2 weapons, and cleared 1500 ducats before I got a single forma drop. Nowadays I'm farming primes to push for True Master (I'm at 26 rn) and my lucks actually been great but the moment THE MOMENT I run out of forma, it's 20+ relics before I get any again.
Spends 100 traces to get a rad relic , gets silver forma or a bronze part of an evergreen prime. Then randomly runs void fissures , gets all required gold parts from randos with no relic refinement.
Ah yes. The cruel untasteful joke of a reward. Silver forma. Almost as frustrating as getting a bronze from radiants, which should be outlawed for the sake of our time....
@@eyywannn8601 you mean it had two chances to drop forma or it gave 2 Forma Blueprints? Because I think We need to start getting 2 Forma Blueprints on silver drops lol
There is something crazy too: running void relics with random players (all 4 with intact) and we get two rare items to choose hahahaha 2 rares at the same time is a waste lol
Ive learned that the key to opening relics is not wanting anything or hoping for anything. That way you wont be disappointed & you'll eventually get whole sets without realizing it.
this is works really well with idea of farming for ducats. the early player you are, the more likely when running pubs, that someone will not only bring a relic you need but get that part that you need randomly.
Pretty much i does feel it do nothing because as you can see in the start of the video, the percentages does no increase the get even, so the same way, 2% seems ridiculously lucky to get in a normal relic, this only get 5x more likely to happen in a radiat relic, and the odds for the other options such as only uncommon and common loot get narrower, instead of you getting for example in 10 prime tier lucky runs 3 common items, 6 uncommon, and the rest rare, you could get maybe 4 rares and uncommon loots and only get 2 common loots, so technically it does nothing but at the same time it helps A LOT with the grind it would be to get the 2% rare loot, that would be translated to pretty much 5x higher prices of prime warframes, and little things like the 70pl Gara Set would be something like 560plat, even though it's quite rare to find someone playing her
I will also remember the moment I sold a nekros prime bp (or rather one of the rare parts) for 100 ducats. I didn’t know trading was really a thing back then, but I later found out it was selling for 100s of plat. Never again.
@@Doot-O but you did get a loki prime from last month's tennocon, and also because of that the price for loki prime(components) are way lower, so it is not that much of a waste I guess
Shoutout to the Redeemer Prime Handle, the piece that far exceeded the usual 99.9% chance when compared to relics opened. I must have spent nearly a year of on-and-off farming to get that stupid part. Eventually, I just became too stubborn to buy it, lol. It was worth it though, that thing is great.
The best strategy that I have been doing is to take the desire relic and *pray* that you get it. It has worked well to where I got ivara and titania prime, solo
10:32 I have a strategy for getting rare drop out of a relic easily without using countless radiant relics. 1. collect a few void traces, (if you already have some then you're good) 2. if you have enough for a radiant then crack a radiant but if not then crack an intact. repeat till crack radiant 3. if you didn't get your rare you're looking for out of your radiant then repeat step 2 till it arives from what I have seen using this strategy, if you have bad luck the max relics you'll need is 20. And you'll most likely get the rare drop from and intact relic then from a radiant one
I think relics are my favorite loot boxes. *Rarity* : Yes, there are 4 main types, and theoretically Axi are rarer. But once you reach all the best nodes, Axi relics have the same drop chance (14%) as lith relics. Also, there's no "rarer" axi relic except for the vault ones (which actually had better drop chances with Prime Ressurgence). *Loot table* : 4 items per relic, instead of 100-200. You can focus your farm for a specific relic. *Drop chance* : 25% for specific common, 11% for uncommon and 2% for rare. Once fully upgraded uncommon becomes 20% and rare 10%. In other games you're be lucky if a lootbox has 2% for rare item. You can ALSO choose your teammates' reward. *Duplicates usage* : You can sell the relics or the duplicates you got. You can also sell them to Baro and get some nice cosmetics, mods and weapons. Also, chances are that when you were farming for a prime warframe, you got relics for another one you don't have.
What if you can run solo missions in 2 minutes and public groups finish in 3.5 minutes? Edit: Capture and exterminate missions in particular. Sometimes in public groups someone joins late and everyone has to wait until they get 10 reactant, or someone just doesn't extract. On top of that, solo you can instantly repeat a mission without having to wait for others that may leave the squad or spend an additional minute picking which relic to run. Ken, help me solve this practical problem!
Still open in a group. you have a much higher chance to get something of value. i would say if you only just to farm some traces fast then you could go some solo openings.
that varies between group, every group is different and so a run's time efficiency is hard to calculate. Even so, the extra minute you save is probably less beneficial than the other people in your group. You're opening four relics at one time. Also the traces you get from running in a group will shave runs too
@@finnryczek8161 there's a high chance on paper, but if I can run 1.75 times the missions, in an hour, surely I'll get more ducats/platinum per hour by the sheer increase of relics opened even if the odds of a rare is lower.
Just found your channel. I'm glad you're still making videos. This was super helpful to me since I'm returning after a 2 year break. Can't wait to work my way through your catalogue of videos.
literally radiant-ed my relics for Atlas neuroptics and got nothing, finished all my traces and just went with an intact one and finally got it, bruh moment :(
Was farming for a Saryn Prime set today to help out a friend. Managed to get a full Nidus Prime set from other people's relics before I got the *common* systems to drop. Could not believe my luck
I love the part where you assume I can even get a relic from a mission. I don’t how many times it’s taken more than 18 times to get a relic only for it to not have the piece I need
one thing about running in a premade group is if you are hunting a specific rare item, if you all equip the same radiant relic it increases your chance on getting said item in fewer runs ;D
Yup. If all 4 players have a radiant of the same type, it should only take around about 1 round for the thing they all want to drop to drop. Neat. Good luck getting a full group like that tho- 😂
What I personally do is I have a list of relics from which I already have everything and spamming those with random groups. Then spending the void traces to RAD those where I'm still missing the pieces, and looking for a radshare. Actually I have like 90% of my prime parts from the fist option, dropped by the randoms :D
I don't really do things optimally when it comes to Relics. I just Radiant the ones I need, and try to get the parts I'm looking for. EDIT: You forgot the most important part. What Mission Type is most efficient for farming Relics, and which is best for cracking Relics?
Sometime I can't believe I prepared 10 relics and got gold reward in the very first try when I was not expecting. The other time I only have 7 radiant and played 6 radshare to get one gold reward. Thank god I didn't run out of relics. That relic is a pain to farm.
Nice video.👍 Another strategy for farming rare part is to farm void traces and common part through intact relics. Then a rare part that you don't need will come out eventually.=_=
step 1: do some ESO and get a few Radiant Relics step 2: open those to get some void fissures step 3: farm a few of the relics you want rare drops of and refine them (2 or 3 are usually a good amount) step 4: say "H/LF [relic] radshare" in team finding chat step 5: prey and get frustrated gg
I knew most of these things but I didn't really know the math on if it's better to make flawless or radiant relics for rare/uncommon drops, now I do, thanks.
RNG can bite pretty nastily when it comes to these relics. Personal example: 30 Radiant Relics when I was trying to get the Aklex Prime Link (I wanted the Mastery and did this during TennoCon). Switched to "any tier" of that relic and got the link off of an intact relic after about 6 more tries. One of the few times I've broken into angrish over a relic. ...I'll admit also as far as Void Traces, I'm holding a bunch of them until Nidus Prime arrives. Will likely run quite a few Radiant relics then.
I know actually finding a rad party is more beneficial but fuck typing "H Axi B95 RAD 1/4" every 30 seconds for like an hour to get a 3/4 squad, only for everyone to leave because it takes too long.
Knowing that I only have one chance at Garuda Nueroptics has been keeping me from opening that one relic. 10% chance to get what I want is higher than I thought it was tho.
I'm curious about the chances of multiple people in a rad squad getting the same rare reward. Of course you can only choose one reward, so the possibility of wasting rare relics and traces when two people get the desired part is enough to scare me and my friends into running 2x, 3x, or 4x the missions, with only one desired relic at once. If everyone has radiant vaulted relics, how many more desired rare parts can we expect to get compared to running 4x the missions with one at a time?
Running 4 times with one radiant relic each time does improve the number of rare rewards you could be getting from the relic. But it also drastically increases the time it takes to open them and is not worth it if you need the item only once. I believe you can find the math on the warframe wiki.
Ducats isn't Do-kits it's duck-its... It's like hearing nails on a blackboard each time he says do-kits.. _(noun) Cash, money or bills, from "ducats": various gold coins formerly used in certain European countries_
2:20 what do you mean by everyone can pick wichever reward they like? When it's cracked open and shows what I got, I can just click on the one of my group members? How does that work?
You can just choose someone else's yeah. So if one person's relic shows a rare item, everyone in the squad can walk away with that rare item instead of the less valuable item inside their own relic.
I’ve been playing this game for ab a week or so & reached mr 5, I’m genuinely enjoying the game, but the over complicity of this game is a major con for new players such as me. The mods don’t make sense. The damage don’t make sense. Opening relics don’t make sense. I’ve made it to Saturn going up against 20-30 lvl enemies & the most damage I’m doing is vv low & I die fairly quickly. I did the Saturn junction & literally the most damage I’ve done was 40. I do watch guides such as this one but 90% of what these ppl are saying goes right over my head & ab 10% of it makes sense.
Well in ur navigation there will be a tab it looks like a weird water drop those a void fissures it's where you open those relics once ur in u should be able to figure out what to do
What is described is only the most optimal way to open a relic with the intention of getting plats. It is mostly irrelevant when you are farming for a specific weapon or warframe. The best information in the video is starting from 1:00 to 1:30.
The only thing that uncommon forma bp does for me is +5-10 traces when a friend has a common forma drop and I convince the others to select mine bc it's silver
tbh i just go solo in endless fissures because almost no public squad wants to go an hour, which is kinda lame. And I don't want to spend my time on recruiting chat as well.
Helpful tip, if you are running low on relics I highly suggest you purchase them from syndicates using standing as they are in my opinion the fastest way to get relics.
Captures on void missions are faster. Always a guaranteed relic from them, lith always from the lvl 15 one, and meso and neo from the lvl 30 one. Just take a speed frame with your best wep, and rush it. you can get a relic a minute, or every two to three minutes depending on load times. Axis are bit rougher since they need higher level missions. Interceptions can be good for them if you have a good squad, or max range max duration vauban to hold enemies in place as you hold all 4 points with his vortex grenade. His augment is very helpful. Hope this helps some
@@sylphario4468 If you don’t spend your rep on getting the relics, what do you spend the rep on? The tip is useful if you want to get the newest prime as quickly as possible. Steel Path Honors also sells relic packs.
I can get 30k rep a day, but others at lower master can maybe get up to 20k-25k. Taking into account that's 3 relics a day for multiple missions worth of effort. Relic packs are iffy. Augment mods are always desirable, as are syndicate weapons. and so are arch gun parts and melee parts.I usually end up helping either clan mates or newer players get augments,weapons or arch gun parts from the factions I'm apart of. So standing can be better spent helping others or selling mods atleast. As for steel path, if you're capable of handling that, you've earned the right to spend that on what you feel is best :) Also, syndicate medallions can be beneficial to find in syndicate missions, that's extra time for a potential 10k extra standing that day. Finding them can be a time consuming process unless you take a max range limbo to trigger cataclysm repetitively with a wide range loot detection mod on limbo to destroy the breakable on the map
If you want to get the rare from a relic, its good to hop in sup with 3 of your friends that also have the same relic (only one of you choses the radiant relic at a time) it might not be as effective as all going for the same relic on the same time, but if gives you a chance of getting more than just one of the desired item, something happend to me once that made me really mad, i went with a group of friends to farm a specific item that was rare and when we finally revealed the relics we all got the rare item on the same run... That means that 3 of those chances to get a rare got wasted ( I'm not sure if I'm being clear here)
A thing to note: if even one squad mate brings a relic that doesn't have any forma drops, then common formas on other relics have literally no impact on the expected amount of ducats compared to the "traditional" relic setup.
Supposedly running with less and less people boost the chance to get a rare or uncommon reward, not nearly as much as a dedicated group each running a radiant relic, even if that group only has one more person
It was on the tip of my tongue for a while watching your videos and I finally know who you remind me of - XboxAhoy, the guy who makes the Iconic Arms series. Very similar timbre to you two.
How to beat the percent of chance. 1. Haste of your game, get in, get the 2 task done, and get out. Haste adds to the the chance of a higher value reward. 2. Your first time playing a fissure mission, these missions change often, so go big on your first time on a mission as your chance of getting the top reward is highest. 3. Your mission is a problem, don't plan on a rare reward on a capture, excavation, survival, or defense. Many times, these type missions aren't designed for Fissure missions. Excavation issues are finding power cells as they spawn and the bots tend to hide or get stuck on the map. Survival and defense are on a 5 minute timer, so haste can't help you. Capture tasks are usually done in the first 400M, but the capture target is between 150M and 300M and the exit is 1200M beyond that, making haste difficult. 4. There is also a counter in the game that keeps track of the rewards you get. I bought 15 Volt Prime relics, then opened each in solo missions. I got the top reward first, then 6 Forma in a row, followed by a mix of rewards and Forma. On the 12th mission, the last Volt Prime part was given. This logic defies percent chance and basic RNG logic, which leads to the micro-management use of a counter. Remember to play until you see the code. Play a mission over and over until you see the logic.
I find many players not knowing a common one can be 25 ducat or an uncommon one 65 ducat, they just picking by simply look at the sign of different class on the selection at the end of the mission.
In German servers we just play random Relic fissures. No private groups needed, because the mainstream relics or the new ones are hunted the most. Sometimes you get a gold drop of something vaulted. Which is nice too. English servers are a hassle with groups and all that. Like that changes anything
It'd be a short video. "Run relics as fast as you can. Vaulted or already upgraded relics are best so people choose your reward more often." That's all there is to it.
Smeeta + resource booster and avoid completing your 10 reactant until smeeta procs, just try not to waste time waiting for it if you're doing short runs like capture because the extra time might not be worth doing less capture runs.
The relic system is the sole reason I wish there was a Pity system in this game, so I don't have to grind the Kogake Prime Gauntlets for a month and a half and only ever get bronze drops from all of those Radiants.
When I started i had no idea I could pick the same reward as other people and was afraid I'd not get a reward lol. Just recently I noticed everyone gets it 😭
in short. Only refine vaulted and highly desirable drops. you don't refine for avarage ducat runs. you could but unless you are in a radshare looking for the same drop, you could be in a radshare looking for the same drop and be in peach with silver and forma drops. its more rare to have only bronze drops without forma for intact squad than having a gold drop.
i ran a fissure for the first time so I could open a relic, but I never got the option for a reward at the end. is this a bug? or did i do something wrong?
Farm Hepit in void for lith relics, Ukko in void for meso and neo each mission take 1-2m, Lua disruption for axi you succeed 4-3-2-1 conduit def per rotation aabc at 4th rotation and following you defend 1 and fail 3 for guaranteed axi each run, also Marduk in void has 50% to drop axi.
I find the best way to do relics is multiplayer railjack. You get no mission rewards and whatever relic reward you get offered is thrown out the window and you get a nice inbox message from DE after with your own personal relic reward. Still bugged 1 year later. Thanks DE keep making 'content'.
3:06 well most of the time people start farming a relic because they want something from said relic and odds are good it’s that rear item so their going to be trying their hardest to get them. Sadly if we are splitting it into numbers I run bog standard relics 90% maybe even 95% of the time as getting them traces is slow work and a bit disheartening when you need that Harrow prime system to drop for your syndicate rank up and it just won’t drop no matter how meny of that relic you open 😢, also if you have like 50+ of a relic odds are you will get everything from it sooner or later (I’m a little surprised I have so many of a single relic, but I have been running 1 mission a lot to level up gear).
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obviously the most optimal strategy for Bronze rarity is to make your relics Radiant, then you'll get a bronze every time!
spittin facts
That's fr what's been happening to me lately. That rhino p blueprint is so evasive!
me and a friend went through a total of 12 radiant relics for a rare wukong part and all we got were bronzes. we were so pissed lmao
Amen
@@joyce_rx thing is a few days ago I went after gara's part bp from meso (bronze rarity) with 11 relics. I legitimately got every possible reward from the relic except what I needed. Including the rare gold drop
Forma blueprint being the silver drop in some relics is such a rip off.
fr it should at least give me a completed forma
Not even finished mars, and got like 28 blueprints.
Should have been more than 1 forma bp or just removed forma from silver drop at all.
Formas are my trace farming relics
It would be justifiable if we are getting x3 Forma as an uncommon drop
Everyone knows that relics only drop the item you aren't aiming for.
Except I got my gold drop the first time I needed and I prepared a couple of axi
@@nerflv3428 A while back, I saw Titania Prime Systems were gonna be vaulted so I planned to run some random relics to get some traces. First run with a random, some other dude got it.
Getting an entire prime frame you weren't farming for before you're getting that one uncommon weapon part you are going for
> Waste 3 rad relics in a row that ended being bronze
> You ran out of void traces and you decide to farm more
> You instantly get a gold drop in an unwanted intact relic that you don't needed the gold drop
:)
Happened yesterday
yup relics in a nut shell
THIS
The Average Relic Cycle of Pain
Yea straight up, i got exactly what i wanted from relics and then the one time i only needed the one part for a prime weapon it decided, NAH FUCK YOU in ozzyman reviews voice
You forgot how Paris and Braton parts have a hidden 90% chance to drop from any relic.
I think they upgraded it 95%
As someone who got Paris Prime without even going for it (until I realized I was only one part away) I think it’s more like 98%
Oohh thats why i have randoms parts that are not mentionned in the relic
@@financialzero5684the number of full primes ive gotten trying to get a SINGLE forma bp is insane. A few years back, probably around the time this video was initially posted, I finished a warframe, 2 weapons, and cleared 1500 ducats before I got a single forma drop.
Nowadays I'm farming primes to push for True Master (I'm at 26 rn) and my lucks actually been great but the moment
THE MOMENT
I run out of forma, it's 20+ relics before I get any again.
Spends 100 traces to get a rad relic , gets silver forma or a bronze part of an evergreen prime. Then randomly runs void fissures , gets all required gold parts from randos with no relic refinement.
and that is warframe for you
same problem here, i bet lot of ppls have same problem i mind RNG.
Welcome to the club
Praise be RNGesus!
Sounds about right lol
Ah yes. The cruel untasteful joke of a reward. Silver forma. Almost as frustrating as getting a bronze from radiants, which should be outlawed for the sake of our time....
You say that but there was a Meso D1 relic that had two forma in it and I still miss it.
@about_data that's actually a good thing. Statistically, we will be more likely to get prime parts than the forma.
@@eyywannn8601 you mean it had two chances to drop forma or it gave 2 Forma Blueprints?
Because I think We need to start getting 2 Forma Blueprints on silver drops lol
@@justinanderson2631 I actually really like this idea
I wish silver forma came pre built
i love it when i need to farm a common item and i used 4 intact relic in a row and all 4 gave me uncommon
There is something crazy too: running void relics with random players (all 4 with intact) and we get two rare items to choose hahahaha 2 rares at the same time is a waste lol
@@Matheuskwo how about doing a radshare and all 4 got the exact same uncommon
@@h13n12 The more rad and the more same relics, the better (i think)
But all relics rank 3/4 is always better, as him showed in the video
Ive learned that the key to opening relics is not wanting anything or hoping for anything. That way you wont be disappointed & you'll eventually get whole sets without realizing it.
this is works really well with idea of farming for ducats. the early player you are, the more likely when running pubs, that someone will not only bring a relic you need but get that part that you need randomly.
This is key. After while you get prime parts/sets you don’t need and can sell them to just buy the piece you need for a set you want
Dis is da wei.
While I believe the math in this video is real, I still am not convinced refining relics does anything.
It is debateable, i was trying for a gold drop and it took me 20.. all radiant to get what i wanted.
It does something but it *feeeeels* like it does jack shit
No joke, a bunch of times i was going for the common reward, but got the gold one in the end lol
Gara prime main blueprint farming, depression
Pretty much i does feel it do nothing because as you can see in the start of the video, the percentages does no increase the get even, so the same way, 2% seems ridiculously lucky to get in a normal relic, this only get 5x more likely to happen in a radiat relic, and the odds for the other options such as only uncommon and common loot get narrower, instead of you getting for example in 10 prime tier lucky runs 3 common items, 6 uncommon, and the rest rare, you could get maybe 4 rares and uncommon loots and only get 2 common loots, so technically it does nothing but at the same time it helps A LOT with the grind it would be to get the 2% rare loot, that would be translated to pretty much 5x higher prices of prime warframes, and little things like the 70pl Gara Set would be something like 560plat, even though it's quite rare to find someone playing her
Upgrading to radiant is super worth it if you’re after common rewards.
Titania prime is being built as we speak (my first prime warframe yay!)
Thanks a bunch for this new info mate!
Nice! Mine was Ivara.
My three were limbo, Loki and one more can’t remember the name
@@ender4101 I did get Ivara Prime's chassis. Sold it though to get the pangolin prime handle to level steel meridian up lmao
@@connorericson Oh nice! I recently got Limbo. Any particular mods I should be on the lookout for?
@@tater428 Eh, that's fair. I'd probably do the same with a Titania Prime chassis myself :v
Ya’ll remember those moments when you got a vaulted rare off an intact?
I will also remember the moment I sold a nekros prime bp (or rather one of the rare parts) for 100 ducats.
I didn’t know trading was really a thing back then, but I later found out it was selling for 100s of plat.
Never again.
I remember the time i got two nikana blades in a row off intacts during some relic burns.
@@jdirksen same here, however, the idiot known as me sold 2 Loki Prime Systems for ducats
@@Doot-O but you did get a loki prime from last month's tennocon, and also because of that the price for loki prime(components) are way lower, so it is not that much of a waste I guess
Saryn Prime on the last day before being Vaulted way back when. Never Forget
Remember my fellow tenno, the desire sensor knows, if you want something, don't think about it and it will come unexpectedly
Been playing 6 years your not wrong
Forma is Life. All hail Forma Blueprint. One true God.
Not when Plague Star is a thing
@@run4walk never ran it. F
Shoutout to the Redeemer Prime Handle, the piece that far exceeded the usual 99.9% chance when compared to relics opened. I must have spent nearly a year of on-and-off farming to get that stupid part. Eventually, I just became too stubborn to buy it, lol. It was worth it though, that thing is great.
The best strategy that I have been doing is to take the desire relic and *pray* that you get it. It has worked well to where I got ivara and titania prime, solo
My rng didn’t fail me when I recently got nezha as my first warframe
"When farming ducats, how you spend ducats barely matters" switched that word there but nice vid as always ^^
9:44 Yeah... Today i have oppened 38 Neo O1(Radiant) to get Volt prime systems (uncommon).
No systems and 20 Volt Prime Bp.
Fuck maths.
could u perhaps donate 1 of thoes volt prime BP to me by any chance
@@jurlin4087 Ofc! Tell me your ingame name and i will pm you tomorrow (Im from Spain, is late atm)
Might I also receive such a donation…?
What platform are you on?
@@AnonymousB0ss Pc
@@Alberto-wr2sv my IGN is: SinzzT4 also ty :)
if you want a common drop, the chance drops as you refine relics, and increases for the rest the more you refine them
10:32 I have a strategy for getting rare drop out of a relic easily without using countless radiant relics.
1. collect a few void traces, (if you already have some then you're good)
2. if you have enough for a radiant then crack a radiant but if not then crack an intact. repeat till crack radiant
3. if you didn't get your rare you're looking for out of your radiant then repeat step 2 till it arives
from what I have seen using this strategy, if you have bad luck the max relics you'll need is 20. And you'll most likely get the rare drop from and intact relic then from a radiant one
One of the best (maybe even THE best) way to farm ducats is actually running Neo V10. It's special because it has a 45 ducat part as a common reward.
I think relics are my favorite loot boxes.
*Rarity* : Yes, there are 4 main types, and theoretically Axi are rarer. But once you reach all the best nodes, Axi relics have the same drop chance (14%) as lith relics. Also, there's no "rarer" axi relic except for the vault ones (which actually had better drop chances with Prime Ressurgence).
*Loot table* : 4 items per relic, instead of 100-200. You can focus your farm for a specific relic.
*Drop chance* : 25% for specific common, 11% for uncommon and 2% for rare. Once fully upgraded uncommon becomes 20% and rare 10%. In other games you're be lucky if a lootbox has 2% for rare item. You can ALSO choose your teammates' reward.
*Duplicates usage* : You can sell the relics or the duplicates you got. You can also sell them to Baro and get some nice cosmetics, mods and weapons. Also, chances are that when you were farming for a prime warframe, you got relics for another one you don't have.
What if you can run solo missions in 2 minutes and public groups finish in 3.5 minutes?
Edit: Capture and exterminate missions in particular. Sometimes in public groups someone joins late and everyone has to wait until they get 10 reactant, or someone just doesn't extract. On top of that, solo you can instantly repeat a mission without having to wait for others that may leave the squad or spend an additional minute picking which relic to run.
Ken, help me solve this practical problem!
Still open in a group. you have a much higher chance to get something of value.
i would say if you only just to farm some traces fast then you could go some solo openings.
that varies between group, every group is different and so a run's time efficiency is hard to calculate. Even so, the extra minute you save is probably less beneficial than the other people in your group. You're opening four relics at one time.
Also the traces you get from running in a group will shave runs too
I appreciate the responses everyone! But it would make me feel assured if squad leader Ken looked into the numbers.
@@finnryczek8161 there's a high chance on paper, but if I can run 1.75 times the missions, in an hour, surely I'll get more ducats/platinum per hour by the sheer increase of relics opened even if the odds of a rare is lower.
@@javierhuizar4207 he already looked that the numbers, they're in this video.
2:53
Just found your channel. I'm glad you're still making videos. This was super helpful to me since I'm returning after a 2 year break. Can't wait to work my way through your catalogue of videos.
"Are you opening relics correctly?"
*No, and just try and stop me!*
literally radiant-ed my relics for Atlas neuroptics and got nothing, finished all my traces and just went with an intact one and finally got it, bruh moment :(
Was farming for a Saryn Prime set today to help out a friend. Managed to get a full Nidus Prime set from other people's relics before I got the *common* systems to drop. Could not believe my luck
I had something similar happen. Except I was farming nidus prime and ended up with everything for octavia prime.
Ken: Are you opening relics correctly?
Me: I can guarantee you I'm probably not doing ANYTHING in ANY video game correctly...
I love the part where you assume I can even get a relic from a mission. I don’t how many times it’s taken more than 18 times to get a relic only for it to not have the piece I need
one thing about running in a premade group is if you are hunting a specific rare item, if you all equip the same radiant relic it increases your chance on getting said item in fewer runs ;D
Yup. If all 4 players have a radiant of the same type, it should only take around about 1 round for the thing they all want to drop to drop. Neat.
Good luck getting a full group like that tho- 😂
What I personally do is I have a list of relics from which I already have everything and spamming those with random groups.
Then spending the void traces to RAD those where I'm still missing the pieces, and looking for a radshare.
Actually I have like 90% of my prime parts from the fist option, dropped by the randoms :D
I don't really do things optimally when it comes to Relics. I just Radiant the ones I need, and try to get the parts I'm looking for.
EDIT: You forgot the most important part. What Mission Type is most efficient for farming Relics, and which is best for cracking Relics?
Capture > Exterminate > Sabotage > interception and excavation > all
Farming relics is disruption hands down (if there is a disruption that drops that type)
@@tridinh1011 Apollo on Lua is life. Railjack Veil Proxima Void Storms too.
"Having a relic which has a common forma blueprint thankfully has very limited impact"
**RNG God grants all 4 people in my squad forma blueprints**
I still think silver reward forma js a crime
Sometime I can't believe I prepared 10 relics and got gold reward in the very first try when I was not expecting. The other time I only have 7 radiant and played 6 radshare to get one gold reward. Thank god I didn't run out of relics. That relic is a pain to farm.
Nice video.👍 Another strategy for farming rare part is to farm void traces and common part through intact relics. Then a rare part that you don't need will come out eventually.=_=
i got the full set of nidus and nezha prime + a bunch of prime weapons while chasing Equinox Prime systems (and I STILL NOT HAVE IT)
What are the void traces? I cannot understand
Hope more people can see this especially those who rushes through a game without waiting for others to join.
2:55 -2:58 Man, I thought 7x times that my apartment doorbell rings... When watching over and over this part..
I've noticed that the enemies that spawn whenever you get a rare reward are in much larger groups and consist of alot more eximus units.
step 1: do some ESO and get a few Radiant Relics
step 2: open those to get some void fissures
step 3: farm a few of the relics you want rare drops of and refine them (2 or 3 are usually a good amount)
step 4: say "H/LF [relic] radshare" in team finding chat
step 5: prey and get frustrated
gg
I knew most of these things but I didn't really know the math on if it's better to make flawless or radiant relics for rare/uncommon drops, now I do, thanks.
Next video title: Are you living your life correctly?
wow, I play solo, but had no idea that playing in group would let you choose the prize. I'll have to try it later. :)
RNG can bite pretty nastily when it comes to these relics.
Personal example: 30 Radiant Relics when I was trying to get the Aklex Prime Link (I wanted the Mastery and did this during TennoCon). Switched to "any tier" of that relic and got the link off of an intact relic after about 6 more tries.
One of the few times I've broken into angrish over a relic.
...I'll admit also as far as Void Traces, I'm holding a bunch of them until Nidus Prime arrives. Will likely run quite a few Radiant relics then.
This is why you radshare when possible tbh
I know actually finding a rad party is more beneficial but fuck typing "H Axi B95 RAD 1/4" every 30 seconds for like an hour to get a 3/4 squad, only for everyone to leave because it takes too long.
What about the odds on a Radstagger vs a Radparty?
Knowing that I only have one chance at Garuda Nueroptics has been keeping me from opening that one relic. 10% chance to get what I want is higher than I thought it was tho.
I'm curious about the chances of multiple people in a rad squad getting the same rare reward. Of course you can only choose one reward, so the possibility of wasting rare relics and traces when two people get the desired part is enough to scare me and my friends into running 2x, 3x, or 4x the missions, with only one desired relic at once. If everyone has radiant vaulted relics, how many more desired rare parts can we expect to get compared to running 4x the missions with one at a time?
Running 4 times with one radiant relic each time does improve the number of rare rewards you could be getting from the relic. But it also drastically increases the time it takes to open them and is not worth it if you need the item only once. I believe you can find the math on the warframe wiki.
Its only worth it if the relic you farmed are few and vaulted, if not, then its honestly not worth it
Ducats isn't Do-kits it's duck-its... It's like hearing nails on a blackboard each time he says do-kits..
_(noun) Cash, money or bills, from "ducats": various gold coins formerly used in certain European countries_
2:20 what do you mean by everyone can pick wichever reward they like? When it's cracked open and shows what I got, I can just click on the one of my group members? How does that work?
You can just choose someone else's yeah. So if one person's relic shows a rare item, everyone in the squad can walk away with that rare item instead of the less valuable item inside their own relic.
@@TheKengineer Damn, now I feel stupid for not knowing that haha. That's super useful
yes exactly what you just said
I’ve been playing this game for ab a week or so & reached mr 5, I’m genuinely enjoying the game, but the over complicity of this game is a major con for new players such as me. The mods don’t make sense. The damage don’t make sense. Opening relics don’t make sense. I’ve made it to Saturn going up against 20-30 lvl enemies & the most damage I’m doing is vv low & I die fairly quickly. I did the Saturn junction & literally the most damage I’ve done was 40. I do watch guides such as this one but 90% of what these ppl are saying goes right over my head & ab 10% of it makes sense.
Look up leyzargamingviews, all of his guides are structured to be new player friendly.
Just check out a build on youtube maybe layzars or something. And generally slash damage is good
I'm like 600 hours in and I still don't understand damage lol
read wiki and the in game codex...
@@chrism4522 they don't answer my questions
11:00 I think the second “ducats” should be “void traces”
And here i am , had to run 11 radshare runs for ash prime .. sorry FOR ONE OF HIS PARTS OLNY
RNG loves me in this game. Did 3 runs with clan mates, all the exact same radiant relic. All 3 runs all 4 us rolled forma.....
Finally, someone else who doesn’t say “duckets”
To answer your question. I'm not opening them at all. I don't know how those ball things work
Well in ur navigation there will be a tab it looks like a weird water drop those a void fissures it's where you open those relics once ur in u should be able to figure out what to do
What is described is only the most optimal way to open a relic with the intention of getting plats. It is mostly irrelevant when you are farming for a specific weapon or warframe. The best information in the video is starting from 1:00 to 1:30.
The only thing that uncommon forma bp does for me is +5-10 traces when a friend has a common forma drop and I convince the others to select mine bc it's silver
The uncommon forma should be deleted from the game.
11:00 "When farming ducats, how you spend ducats barely matters."
tbh i just go solo in endless fissures because almost no public squad wants to go an hour, which is kinda lame. And I don't want to spend my time on recruiting chat as well.
Why don't u burn relics on capture or ext?
Endless fissures are too slow. Capture and exterminate can be run in 2 minutes, endless only rewards every 5 minutes.
@@javierhuizar4207 true, but excavation is the best imo
Helpful tip, if you are running low on relics I highly suggest you purchase them from syndicates using standing as they are in my opinion the fastest way to get relics.
Captures on void missions are faster. Always a guaranteed relic from them, lith always from the lvl 15 one, and meso and neo from the lvl 30 one. Just take a speed frame with your best wep, and rush it. you can get a relic a minute, or every two to three minutes depending on load times. Axis are bit rougher since they need higher level missions. Interceptions can be good for them if you have a good squad, or max range max duration vauban to hold enemies in place as you hold all 4 points with his vortex grenade. His augment is very helpful. Hope this helps some
@@sylphario4468 thank you for that information now that I think of it.
@@sylphario4468 If you don’t spend your rep on getting the relics, what do you spend the rep on? The tip is useful if you want to get the newest prime as quickly as possible.
Steel Path Honors also sells relic packs.
I can get 30k rep a day, but others at lower master can maybe get up to 20k-25k.
Taking into account that's 3 relics a day for multiple missions worth of effort. Relic packs are iffy. Augment mods are always desirable, as are syndicate weapons. and so are arch gun parts and melee parts.I usually end up helping either clan mates or newer players get augments,weapons or arch gun parts from the factions I'm apart of. So standing can be better spent helping others or selling mods atleast. As for steel path, if you're capable of handling that, you've earned the right to spend that on what you feel is best :)
Also, syndicate medallions can be beneficial to find in syndicate missions, that's extra time for a potential 10k extra standing that day. Finding them can be a time consuming process unless you take a max range limbo to trigger cataclysm repetitively with a wide range loot detection mod on limbo to destroy the breakable on the map
@@sylphario4468 Most of the time, I’ll be at near max rep in preparation of new primes. If I’m close to max, I’ll buy an augment.
For ducat farming, since I spend lots of time in eso, I get rad relics easily a pretty neet way of getting those relics if u need them
If you want to get the rare from a relic, its good to hop in sup with 3 of your friends that also have the same relic (only one of you choses the radiant relic at a time) it might not be as effective as all going for the same relic on the same time, but if gives you a chance of getting more than just one of the desired item, something happend to me once that made me really mad, i went with a group of friends to farm a specific item that was rare and when we finally revealed the relics we all got the rare item on the same run... That means that 3 of those chances to get a rare got wasted ( I'm not sure if I'm being clear here)
Yooo new upload! I learn something new after every video even though I already have 400 hrs on the game. Keep up the amazing work!
Usually after I am done farming for a piece of prime gear, if I have leftover radiants, I just crack them in a public lobby.
A thing to note: if even one squad mate brings a relic that doesn't have any forma drops, then common formas on other relics have literally no impact on the expected amount of ducats compared to the "traditional" relic setup.
Supposedly running with less and less people boost the chance to get a rare or uncommon reward, not nearly as much as a dedicated group each running a radiant relic, even if that group only has one more person
I’m gonna call bs on that
Idk if this is the best time to say this but please do an updated fulmn build
It was on the tip of my tongue for a while watching your videos and I finally know who you remind me of - XboxAhoy, the guy who makes the Iconic Arms series. Very similar timbre to you two.
What about the elusive high school myth? "the golden forma" strikes fear in my heart every time I hear of it
Rad relic = 50% chance for bronze
In reality it feels like 80%
How to beat the percent of chance.
1. Haste of your game, get in, get the 2 task done, and get out. Haste adds to the the chance of a higher value reward.
2. Your first time playing a fissure mission, these missions change often, so go big on your first time on a mission as your chance of getting the top reward is highest.
3. Your mission is a problem, don't plan on a rare reward on a capture, excavation, survival, or defense. Many times, these type missions aren't designed for Fissure missions. Excavation issues are finding power cells as they spawn and the bots tend to hide or get stuck on the map. Survival and defense are on a 5 minute timer, so haste can't help you. Capture tasks are usually done in the first 400M, but the capture target is between 150M and 300M and the exit is 1200M beyond that, making haste difficult.
4. There is also a counter in the game that keeps track of the rewards you get. I bought 15 Volt Prime relics, then opened each in solo missions. I got the top reward first, then 6 Forma in a row, followed by a mix of rewards and Forma. On the 12th mission, the last Volt Prime part was given. This logic defies percent chance and basic RNG logic, which leads to the micro-management use of a counter.
Remember to play until you see the code. Play a mission over and over until you see the logic.
I find many players not knowing a common one can be 25 ducat or an uncommon one 65 ducat, they just picking by simply look at the sign of different class on the selection at the end of the mission.
I really want to see that deep dive tbh. I don't think I can afford it nice video thank you
Thanks mate, now I know how to do it best! Your vids rock!
Thanks for helping me understand void relics
Just a radiant breakdown, thanks.
Relics are one of my fav parts of warframe, ngl. I love repititive gamemodes and modes I can auto-pilot whilst watching YT etc.
Same
Managed to get 12 bronze forma ina row from radiants. Half of those being vaulted relics. Pure pain this game
I usually just wait for a low level extermination and go sicko mode
In German servers we just play random Relic fissures. No private groups needed, because the mainstream relics or the new ones are hunted the most. Sometimes you get a gold drop of something vaulted. Which is nice too. English servers are a hassle with groups and all that. Like that changes anything
Yo, Can you do a video on how to farm the most amount of void traces.
It'd be a short video. "Run relics as fast as you can. Vaulted or already upgraded relics are best so people choose your reward more often." That's all there is to it.
Smeeta + resource booster and avoid completing your 10 reactant until smeeta procs, just try not to waste time waiting for it if you're doing short runs like capture because the extra time might not be worth doing less capture runs.
Make a video about whether to use galvanized acceleration or narrow barrel
Literally opened full radiant squad and all we got were forma blueprints. Warframe I demand an explanation.
I once ran a rad share and we all got a forma. I was like “I wonder which to pick, these choices are so difficult.”
everyone should pick someone else's so everyone gets the bonus void traces
Pro tip Farm for Forma and you will never see so may Gold drops in your life.
The relic system is the sole reason I wish there was a Pity system in this game, so I don't have to grind the Kogake Prime Gauntlets for a month and a half and only ever get bronze drops from all of those Radiants.
When I started i had no idea I could pick the same reward as other people and was afraid I'd not get a reward lol. Just recently I noticed everyone gets it 😭
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in short. Only refine vaulted and highly desirable drops. you don't refine for avarage ducat runs. you could but unless you are in a radshare looking for the same drop, you could be in a radshare looking for the same drop and be in peach with silver and forma drops. its more rare to have only bronze drops without forma for intact squad than having a gold drop.
i ran a fissure for the first time so I could open a relic, but I never got the option for a reward at the end. is this a bug? or did i do something wrong?
Still hunting for that Astilla Prime Barrel, because I swear the Relic for it just doesn't exist
Farm Hepit in void for lith relics, Ukko in void for meso and neo each mission take 1-2m, Lua disruption for axi you succeed 4-3-2-1 conduit def per rotation aabc at 4th rotation and following you defend 1 and fail 3 for guaranteed axi each run, also Marduk in void has 50% to drop axi.
I find u get better rewards from relic cracking in railjack missions than in standard missions tbf
RIP I didn’t even know you could choose out of the 4 at the end of the mission… I’ve seen other people get the item I needed
wait, you guys don't farm forma blueprints?
This, I'm always short on formas
I find the best way to do relics is multiplayer railjack. You get no mission rewards and whatever relic reward you get offered is thrown out the window and you get a nice inbox message from DE after with your own personal relic reward. Still bugged 1 year later. Thanks DE keep making 'content'.
I must’ve spent all my rng points this month because I have been grinding a chassis for so long but nothing
What an excellent guide, thank you!
3:06 well most of the time people start farming a relic because they want something from said relic and odds are good it’s that rear item so their going to be trying their hardest to get them.
Sadly if we are splitting it into numbers I run bog standard relics 90% maybe even 95% of the time as getting them traces is slow work and a bit disheartening when you need that Harrow prime system to drop for your syndicate rank up and it just won’t drop no matter how meny of that relic you open 😢, also if you have like 50+ of a relic odds are you will get everything from it sooner or later (I’m a little surprised I have so many of a single relic, but I have been running 1 mission a lot to level up gear).